Is there a way to find a girlfriend without playing for statistics?
I mean I do talk to women that's not the problem. It's just that when I don't instantly hit on anything that moves none of them considers me as a romance interest. Is there a way to initiate a relationship where you become friends first and then move on or am I too weird for not wanting to put my penis in any women including the ones I just met?
>>17843774
Date a fat girl or a girl with a kid, or a fat girl with a kid. Work your way up from there
>>17843774
It's possible. I have an 86% success rate, so most of the time I ask a woman out, she says yes. And I exclusively date women I know, which sounds like what you're going for.
Is it worth it though? I've only dated six women in the last 8 years, and most of those only lasted a couple of months. So most of the time I'm single. And it takes a long time to find a new, female, friend, and build a relationship to the point where you both like one another. And then you go and ruin the friendship you spent so long building by dating for a couple months, breaking it off, and going your separate ways to try again.
The numbers game is probably easier, in the long run.
>>17843811
That sounds cool, so how?
It's doable, but you really ave to start developing an eye for "quality", by which I mean an innate feeling for discerning which women you really click with as friends. If you're good friends, that's the basis of a strong relationship. That said, ask her out within the first 3 weeks you know her. Presenting yourself as someone without romantic intention for that long will solidify her view of you as a friend rather than a romantic partner.
I think a lot of women appreciate a man making an earnest effort to get to know who they are as a person before becoming romantic, rather than instantly doing so solely based off of physical attraction. However, it's certainly not an exact or foolproof method.
>>17843774
Married man in my 30s here.
4chan has an inordinate phobia about the friendzone. I can report that all my best relationships with women (including the one I married) began as friendships. And some of my worst attempts at romances began as physical attraction to someone I didn't know.
It CAN be done. It simply makes sense that if you know and like each other there can be a basis for romance.