I've done everything I can think of. I've taken up

People can smell desperation ,you know? And it's a turn off.

You are so desperate for a gf that your whole identity revolves around it. You go to the gym but only for girls. You dress nice but only for girls. All of this is very nice but the real end goal was to give yourself confidence, which will in turn attract women. You don't do it only for the women.

So what the fuck are you without a girl? A girl wants to know that her man is a strong man who isn't clinging onto her.

Find out what you really like and establish your own identity.

>>17833293
I have an identity. And I probably don't come off desperate to most girls because I don't act desperate.

Maybe my problem is more that I can't show I girl how much I want her because I'm always acting aloof.

But all I can think is... Acting more lovestruck maybe?

I would have thought I'd warrant a second date, even acting cool as I do.

>>17833335
You don't act desperate but people can sense that you are desperate inside.

You are already doing a lot better than most people. You've actually gone on dates.

Ask people out in person and don't act more lovestruck. Act more interested, if you are interested. But don't stare at them or call them 'baby'. Just try and hang out with them more

also

>acting cool as i do

They can tell that you're insincere and faking it. Why would you want a gf who likes a fake version of you? Find someone who likes you, and not when you're 'acting cool'

>>17833349
I'll definitely try being myself more.

I honestly cant see any benefit to asking people out in person though. It seems like the right moment never comes. Far easier (not that it's also not hard!) to get their contact details and ask them when I've got a plan.

I do try to hang out with girls more, that's usually what I'd call a date if we're alone. If I'm being honest I've mostly gone for coffee and haven't been on any explicitly romantic dates.

>>17833433
Oh I thought you were literally asking them to be your gf over text, don't do that, but yeah askin people to hang out over text is fine.

Coffee is a good first 'date' it lets people relax more. If you want to try explicitly romantic and you know the girl would go for it, get tickets to an orchestra or some sort of show.

Definitely just be yourself more. There are like billions of people in the world and you've only interacted with a scant few of that number. don't get depressed if you haven't found a good girl yet. Go with the mindset of just meeting cool people.

>>17833443
Yeah thanks. Even just talking it through helps. It's partly just the uncertainty about the whole thing if you've never successfully got anywhere.

>>17833455
I feel you. But hey, remember that some people were interested enough in you to go on a first date and spend time with you rather than with some other joe. So you've got something there.It didn't work out but that's ok because now you're still free for the right girl to come around.

Being unhappy by yourself is much better than two unhappy people with each other

>>17833278
What do you have to offer to women that they would want to spend their time with you? What makes you interesting or worth their time?