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When are the best times to make eye contact during a conversation?

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When are the best times to make eye contact during a conversation? Especially with women, I have this problem where I either make to much eye contact or to little. I feel like I come off as creepy and intimidating and I hate it.
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>>17734178
start and finish with eye contact, or while they start talking, or are making a point.
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>>17734178
Eye contact is best when listening. More more when you're listening. If you're speaking, you can let your eyes wander and keep making eye contact, but probably like 33-60% of the time. Don't try to calculate this as you're doing it. Just make occasional eye contact as your speaking and when you're saying something you think is important.
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>>17734178

Pay attention to what others do. I've noticed people look away from convos all the time, usually to let the other person rest for a bit or because they have someone they "prefer" when in group setting.

In one on one, let your eyes wander away every once in a while. Take advantage of loud noises to look away for a few seconds.
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OP here
What about with jokes? I have a weird sense of humor so when I joke people think I'm serious. Are there anyways subtle ways to assure them I am not being serious
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>>17734218
Ignore the typos
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>>17734218

Smile, and use the tone of your voice to convey sarcasm.

"Deadpan" or serious humor is hard for us socially akward types. Stick to obvious jokes and make funny voices.
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>>17734178
"Looking them in the eye" is really more a figure of speech than real. Most of us spend most of a conversation looking the other in the mouth, because we all lip-read more than we realize, whatever our hearing.

It means Look them in the face, rather than at your shoes or at people behind them. Some of it will be locked eye contact, but really not much and not for long.
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