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How are you supposed to handle people behaving/expressing hostile

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How are you supposed to handle people behaving/expressing hostile behaviour towards you while insisting that they're not?

My sister keeps making this fucking face at me all the time and it unnerves the fuck out of me and every time I ask for her to quit doing that and she acts as if she has no fucking idea what I'm talking about and insists she's not making a face. Then, dismayed by me asking her to stop doing it, she keeps doing it harder.
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>>17717587
Are you god damn 7?
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>>17717592
I'm 22, she's 25. I can't afford to move to my own place yet because of reasons. She has zero intention to move out.
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>>17717587
This has to be bait.
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>>17717616
I just hate it when she does that and wish she would stop doing that.

How is that so goddamn absurd and unbelievable?
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>>17717627
>How is that so goddamn absurd and unbelievable?
No, it's perfectly believable. If you were 6 or 7.
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>>17717649
This might be a difficult concept to wrap your head around, but have you considered the possibility that it would be more helpful and make a more fruitful discussion if you actually made an attempt to give advice instead of just trying to insult me?
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Honestly, if it was this easy to trigger my brother, I'd make that face around him too.
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>>17717659
Youre right youre right our bad.

Have you tried not touching her? What you do is put your fingers close to her face but not right on it. Hover and wave them around while keeping that same close distance and repeat "im not touching you".

Its imperative that you say that though. It may sound weird, but it might work. Try it and let us know were gonna figure this out together.
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>>17717659
Alright, let's bite.

The fact that people either consider this bait and/or call you immature is because ... you act immature and bitch about shit not even worth noticing even less pointing out. So the obvious advice is not to act like a kid when you're 22.

If you want a step by step guide, I could do that too!

First: You stop reacting to her making "that" face. Second: You analyze why something so trivial triggers you. Third: You fix the reason for the triggering.
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>>17717664
I just don't understand people like you. What do you get out of being grating and abrasive?

Your contribution is not making the world a better place to live for anyone. As a matter of fact you make it worse, and benefit absolutely nothing of it that I can see. It's the complete opposite of anything worth doing at all.

Why?
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>>17717682
Short answer: it's fun.

Long answer: people who are triggered by something so insignificant need to be weeded out.
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>>17717679
It upsets me because I am a human being - by definition a social animal who picks up on social cues of those around him - and interprent negative expressions as signs of negative feelings, to which I feel negative feelings in response.

It's just exhausting to have the start of a good day completely ruined by having to start explaining that you literally cannot drink while taking antabuse - that people have literally died doing so, and that I really really really absolutely hand-to-my-heart HAVE been taking my pills - and that I have no idea where the likely completely imaginary smell of alcohol that she keeps sniffing on me is coming from.

Being grated down is exhausting and unpleasant, and I really don't understand how negative things being negative is a foreign concept to anyone.

>>17717689
So you're just literally, genuinely evil?
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>>17717709
>So you're just literally, genuinely evil?
Only to sensitive people like you
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>>17717709
>Pickin on your brother is evil
This person actually exists and hes in public with us.
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>>17717712
How do you keep from killing yourself?

It's hard enough for me to shake the feeling that I should dispose of myself for not doing enough good and not actively making the world a better place. How do you continue to feel like you deserve to exist while making it WORSE?

I should mention I'm not trying to talk you into killing yourself. I just genuinely want to know your secret.
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>>17717757
How do I keep myself from killing myself? Because I'm having too much fun fucking with people like you. I quite enjoy my life, thank you very much.
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>>17717709
>and interprent negative expressions as signs of negative feelings
And here is where is goes all wrong. Her expression being negative is purely down to YOUR interpretation, the motivation behind it even more so. She might just enjoy fucking around with you and getting a disproportional reaction.

But let's roll with your interpretation being correct; there is still no fucking reason to give a damn.

>Being grated down is exhausting and unpleasant
What you explain sounds like typical sibling teasing ... and your overreaction to it. You can always just avoid her but this would also to be avoiding addressing the problem, which is you. Gotta harden the fuck up, nigga.

>>17717757
Where do you get the idea that existence and life is something people need to deserve? Not a very nice thing to think.
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>>17717757
Jesus christ this dude is terrifying. You sound like someone whod tie someone up and keep them in your basement "for their own good"
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>>17717781
Though considering he can't even handle someone looking at him, I doubt he'd have the balls to do it.
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>>17717766
well, if I can just stop myself from reacting to things that affect me, what stops me from deciding that I no longer allow myself to be hurt by firearms and be bulletproof?

Where do you get the idea that people would not naturally strive to be good and avoid doing things that are wrong? The want to be a good person is inherent to being human. As a human being, I want to do good and be good because that's what people are supposed to do, like using your feet to walk and having the urge to eat.

How is this a foreign concept to you?
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>>17717795
>if I can just stop myself from reacting to things that affect me, what stops me from deciding that I no longer allow myself to be hurt by firearms and be bulletproof?
For psychological things there is your fucking reasoning as a human. Even most phobias and traumas are deal-able with.
For physical things ... there is something actually: training. You might not turn bulletproof but will have a weaker response to pain.

>The want to be a good person is inherent to being human.
Citation needed.
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>>17717784
This maybe true but-
>well, if I can just stop myself from reacting to things that affect me, what stops me from deciding that I no longer allow myself to be hurt by firearms and be bulletproof

Dude. Its only a matter of time before a chick smiles at him and he takes that a fucked up way and kidnaps her cause she obviously wants to be with him. If not why did she smile at him?
>why are you being so irrational!!!!

Crazy always breaks eventually.
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>>17717795
>The want to be a good person is inherent to being human.
No it's not. Source: Look outside.

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well, if I can just stop myself from reacting to things that affect me, what stops me from deciding that I no longer allow myself to be hurt by firearms and be bulletproof?

That's the point everyone is trying to make. Someone making a face doesn't effect you, but you're reacting to it anyway
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Fishmouth Syndrome. Very common amongst SJWs. Best remedy is a swift uppercut to the jaw, preferably whilst yelling "YOU GON TA JAIL NAOO!!!"
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>>17717832
>even the r9k virgins fell for the bait now
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>>17717808
None of that made any sense to me.

Also, human beings are born with the seed for empathy. Even little babies become sad and distressed from seeing sad or distressed faces, and even if that is only for their own selfish need of survival, it still develops. People who are raised in an empathetic, caring environment become empathetic and caring, and whereas people socialised to a cruel and hostile environment grow up to be cruel and hostile, it's obvious if you compare the two which one of them is happy and healthy.

People who are not damaged - and therefore, in a more "natural state" - dislike seeing others in distress, and have an urge to help them, whether that's other people, animals or even plants.

You COULD raise a human being to be evil, just as well as you can make a fox chew its own leg off, but that doesn't mean it's natural or healthy.

>>17717810
I'm not interested in women and it's not my duty to decide what's the best for other people. I'm not some god who sees into peoples' hearts and knows who and what they truly are and what's the best for them.

The best course of action is to just assume everyone is doing their best to be good. Sometimes that's going to mean shooting a civilian because it was easier than doing the paperwork for a lawful arrest, or strapping yourself full of explosives and blowing yourself up in a synagogue.

Even if I had someone in my hands that I know has done nothing but evil, said nothing but evil, and intended to do absolutely nothing else in their lives than to spread pain and suffering at any possible turn, it couldn't be my duty, or even right, to kill him, because I do not have the power to read peoples' minds and know for an absolute sure that this person is evil. It's simply not something that I - or anyone - has the power or right to do.
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>>17717841
>None of that made any sense to me.
That's unfortunate since I don't think I could explain it even more simple after multiple attempts.

>human beings are born with the seed for empathy.
In the next sentence you explained yourself how it doesn't mean "being good". Empathy is realizing that somebody won't like if you kick them in the balls, it won't cause you not to kick them in the balls if you can get some benefit out of it.

> it's obvious if you compare the two which one of them is happy and healthy.
Assuming society is as monolithic of course, which it isn't. If you're rich (or simply in position of power) you can be perfectly healthy and happy and still treat most others like shit with no downsides to your reproduction chances, while the nice and caring people below you will live in shit.

Although overall mostly reasonable thinking, as is your response to the other poster, which makes you acting like a bitch over your sisters "behavior" even more puzzling.
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>>17717868
Dude he pretty much just said the only reason he doesn't go around killing people is because he doesn't think people are inherently evil.

Are you really sure you should be arguing against that.
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>>17717868
I dislike being treated with hostility and unkindness and wish it would happen less. How is that puzzling?
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>>17717877
Well, admittedly, I didn't read what he was responding TO, but overall it sounds more like he's explaining the crucial part of his logic, given the limited format and all.

So it'd might be you reading too much in it ... just like he totally misreading the actions of his sis.
Or maybe you're right. It's 5am here, so I don't even know anymore.

>>17717881
The problem begins with YOU seeing that action X is meant as hostile. Back to kicking balls, it'd usually be (some guys might do it as a greeting). Something like making a face or a comment you don't like, is not universally meant as something hostile.
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>>17717599
>reasons
And that reason is you are a NEET who refuses to stop sucking on mommy and daddy's teet.
Your sister too. They must be so fucking proud of their failures of children.
You have 2 options, suck it the fuck up, or leave regardless if you can afford to or not. Take your pick.
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>>17717709
>So you're just literally, genuinely evil?
lmao I feel ya OP, Hitler's got nothin on this girl.
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>>17717890
The only reason I wouldn't wish for you to spend 5 minutes in the same room with my sister is that she's too scared to treat anyone but family like trash, and it'd do very little to change your mind about her.

I'm not saying she is going out of her way to upset me over some deliberate urge to do commit an act of evil. She is just not very good at being aware that other people have feelings she might need to regard worth value or respect.

Whenever mom bothers to point out how vile she can be, my sister will bawl her eyes out for a few hours untim the critique stops hurting and then carries on being just the same as she was before and making that face at me.
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>>17717898
It's unreasonable of me to move out because my work contract won't end until April, and no matter what university or other school I'll end up in, there are none in the town I am currently living in. Throwing away money into getting a flat I'd barely inhabit for a few months before having to move all over again, just to get away from my sister, would be a frivolous luxury not worth the money spent.
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>>17717904
>and it'd do very little to change your mind about her.
A great realization. The next step is to stop bothering with it and even wanting to bother with it and focus on the relevant shit in your life.
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>Whenever mom bothers to point out how vile she can be

That's some pretty harsh wording. Got any details of stuff she's done against you and others?
Beats animals?
Steals?
Breaks things?
Puts the toilet paper on the roll backwards?
Details man!
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>>17717841
You do realize sociopaths are usually highly empathetic right? Understanding how people think and feel makes it easier to manipulate them.

Moral codes are taught; therefore a person cannot be born with an innate leaning towards one set of morals or another.

You can talk about what's "natural" and "healthy" all you want, but ultimately you're just trying to argue that people who disagree with you are wrong - that you are infallible and possession of "correct" knowledge.

You cannot, and do not attempt to, prove anything you claim. You explain your rationale, perhaps, but that is NOT the same thing as proving you are correct. You think that what you say is obviously correct, and therefore needs no observation; you again assume a position of infallibility.

I agree with you that the world works best when everyone does "good" - when every stops and considers the people around them. But the world is full of stories where people - good, honest people - did terrible things for the sake of survival. This is instinctual to us as terrestrial life; when death is imminent, the fight or flight instinct kicks in, and we find ourselves doing things we would never dream of doing, things that leave us traumatize for the rest of our lives - lives which we only have because we did those terrible things.

This instinct lives inside us from the day we are born. It comes as naturally to us as breathing; to say that evil is unnatural is to deny the survival instinct that allowed each of us here today to be born.

The sad truth of the matter is that the word "evil" simply describes a part of ourselves that exists in equal to what we decide is good. No matter how much we don't want to look at it, no matter how much we don't want to admit its existence, we must; wishing it away only makes us unprepared to contend with it when it rears its ugly face.

That doesn't mean it's right; that just means it's the truth.
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>>17717909
Then you just admitted your sister is obviously not bothering you that much. So fucking suck it up for the next few months and shut up.
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>>17717921
Also none of that matters because you're fucking CRAZY OH MY GOD IT'S LITERALLY JUTS YOUR SISTER'S FACE NOT EVERYTHING IS AN EPIC BATTLE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL ESPECIALLY NOT YOUR SISTER'S FACE HOLY SHIT YOU NEED PROFESSIONAL HELP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOVE YOURSELF MORE
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>>17717910
Congratulations on failing to notice all but the 11 words of my post you could kinda-almost-sorta twist to make it look like I'm agreeing with you.

I feel sorry for whoever tried to teach you to read.
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>>17717924
There is the relevant part and the filler with more bitching about something you won't be able to change nor is your business to change. Whether you agree with me or not doesn't fucking matter for either of us; but I hoped that you'd recognize the important bit for the sake of the thread.

>>17717923
Hey, we didn't see her face. Maybe it's really THAT bad.
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>>17717940
Maybe OPs image doesn't really convey "The Look" properly. Perhaps this is a little closer?
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>>17717953
I get some evil vibes from this chick tbqh. Maybe he's onto something after all.
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>>17717921
I had a list of people who needed to die in my teens. Schoolmates, not exactly bullies but mean and abrasive people who thought it was funny to upset others. I entertained myself by making plans, seeing where the school security cameras were, finding a good spot, realistically considering which ones of them I could physically overpower and which ones needed other tactics. I meant to cut one girl's head off in the bathroom on the second floor, clean the blood off myself and leave the head set up on the toilet's water container to face the door and look the next one to step in in the eye.

I never even considered trying to frame anyone else for it, to make an alibi or an escape route for myself. I knew I'd be caught and most likely face full murder charges. I didn't care, it would be worth it. For as long as that filthy little heart stopped beating, I had already won.

I never ended up doing it, of course. All the people I was so sure deserved nothing but a terrifying, painful and oh-so-satisfyingly unexpected deaths ended up growing up and becoming sensible, mature adults who surely no longer treat people who don't have any visible power over them like trash.

Teenagers think they know everything.

I don't have the power in me to know who is truly pure evil and deserves to die.
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>>17717964
What the fuck did I just read.
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>>17717964
YOU ARE LITERALLY A SCHOOL SHOOTING WAITING TO HAPPEN
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>>17717969
I've considered looking some of them up from facebook and asking them how the whole thing felt from their perspective.

I'm sure that the guy who thought it was hilarious to first ask me a question and then interrupt me by doing the "zip it!"-thing from Austin Powers never considered how much time I spent thinking about tackling him on the floor, gripping his hair with my right hand and forcing his mouth open with my left, and pressing down with my knees on the backs of my hands - using my thighs for extra muscle force - to tear his jaw muscles apart.

I'm sure he just thought it was all innocent fun and that I found it just as funny as he did, every fucking time.
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>>17717709
>So you're just literally, genuinely evil?
kek bet on the other hand you hate SJW XD
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