25+ virgin thread Let's help out 25+ year old virgins with

27 here

There is no mystery
I know why and how I can change it

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>>17702089
Tell us!!!

>23 year old virgin in a few days
Fug getting close. I won't be able to move out for anytime soon either and I'm going for a useless degree. Fuck me.

>>17702097
I have no confidence.
My years of failure have impacted by belief that I can do it.

It's confidence that matters. You need to want it and get it, fuck the embarrassment.

Like there was a girl at the last party I went to.
I could tell she was attracted to me right off the bat.
If I were confident, I would have been her shadow all night long.
Instead, I just chilled with my friends

I know what you're thinking "Ohhh, Parties, look at Mr Normie here"

Even beyond that. I dated a girl a few times who I still think to this day that was the closest thing to a "soul mate" that I've found. Why we stopped dating? I was a coward who didn't kiss her when everything pointed to my needing to.

Be confident. You're a man god damn you. Act like it

>>17702070

27 khv here. Never had a gf, either.

It's sad that my younger brother is high functioning assburgers and is more successful than I am. He's been dating this girl for like 4 years now.

I am probably just a broken like of shit n

Lost mine this year at age 29. It's not that I'm even ugly or unpopular, just half-autistic and tend to push girls I like away.

Got really drunk after a work dinner with a co-worker and it happened then. In the office. At like 1am.

We've been fucking weekly ever since. But dating a co-worker can be hell. Fun at times, but also fucking stressful and annoying.

>>17702109
>>17702198
And like this guy said, just be confident. Sex really isn't that big of a deal, and this is coming from a guy who went 12 years without kissing someone.

Now I make out with her nearly everyday at work. It's not a big deal, and once you get over that hurdle things will come easier. I used to be so afraid to even kiss someone, but now I could kiss anyone because, fuck it, it's just a kiss. You get rejected? Big deal. Kiss someone else.

Just be confident, try and let go out all thoughts in the head, and just live in the moment and rely on instinct. Your parents hooked up and had you. You can do the same. It's human nature, just let it happen. You are not hopeless.

24 here, I have not money to pay a prostitute and i want to lost my virginity in that (perhaps if i had money).

But i have tried some times to get out of this curse, but my principles are not to good for this, maybe my destiny is become a wizard

I'm 28, lost it when I was 26 with my first girlfriend. I'm fairly attractive, tall and fit but I was half-autistic and just didn't know how to handle girls, so good looks won't change anything. I'm also an Arab born in Germany who doesn't care about religion and is pretty open-minded, but it's still kind of a handicap here.
You should read about pickup, work on yourself and your self-esteem and most importantly get outisde, see the whole thing as a game and if you lose, just try it again, you won't lose anything when you get rejected and it's only going to make you stronger.
I broke up with my gf before 4 months and since then I had "Two-Night-Stands" with two girls respectivley, which I would never have imagined before losing my virginity.
It's still not easy for me because changing yourself and gaining the confidence and courage will take some time but it's important to keep it up and know what you want. You will begin making small achievements.

>>17702070
26 here, going 27 in december.

Had a pseudo relationship with a girl from India when i was 18 but because she was sikh we couldnt do the deed. We kissed and cuddled a lot though but sadly due to my immaturity at the time (clingy and anxious) and her being moody and tempermental, it ended badly. She moved to the US and is married and we cut contact. We knew each other for 6 years and she was my first love. I have improved a lot since then.

I am super picky in girls, and have an obsession with east asian girls and indian. That said im also slowly improving but still on the quiet and nerdy side. Also ethnically East asian myself but adopted by a western family and raised in the west (western eu). Reserved mind, dont drink, drugs, smoke or anything. Also play games and read books. I definitely have become more sociable but its a small circle of friends so not much networking. Love them to pieces though.

I am currently working as a HR intern and looking for a perm paid entry job and studying for diploma in hr (already majored and masters in psychology).

I know guys like me arent high on the market, 5'4, skinny and east asian and on top of my pickiness of a girl with similar values and asian im kind of pigeon holed. Granted ive conceded i will be a bachelor for a while.

I currently have my eyes set on a girl who is in my nightly chinese class. Teacher and building rapport but dont expect it to go anywhere though as its a very tenous situation.

Any advice would be appreciated and while not 100% on the mark, my personality type is INTJ for those wanting to give advice to me and want a good picture.

i turn 24 in a week
i ignored girls up through 20 then just despised them after that
i want sex and hookers are illegal
dont give a fuck about relationships
at least im wealthy

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take classes and meet some girls.
If you're working full time, then take some beginner music class or even an art class (if there's time).
Or start taking dance classes. Women are intrigued by the idea of dancing.

>>17702109
>If I were confident, I would have been her shadow all night long.
No , you wouldn't. Just talk to her, talk to your friends, talk to strangers, have fun. You'll notice when a girl's into you, give her some more attention than the rest but don't stick to her like glue.
I actually nearly made it last saturday.
>Occasionally talk to 9/10 at small party
>Eventually comes up to me and starts dancing with me, touching me all over and talking about sexual stuff
>Talk, lay hand around hips, grab her neck, go for the kiss
>She pulls back because it was rushed, leaves her hand around my waist though
>Tell her laughing that I never tried to kiss a girl before
>"Next time, just do it, don't think about it" (Winks at me)
>Confused by my own courage and believing that I just fucked up good and proper I freely spill my spaghetti withoupt restraint until she remembers she has a bf after all

Could have already been well rid of my virginity for days if I hadn't convinced myself of my own failure, when in fact I'd just gotten her to push me a little in the right direction so we can end up fucking that night. Oh well, on to the next one.

Read Models by Mark Manson.

There's some really good stuff in there

>>17703980
this

>>17703980
Wanna give a quick synopsis?

>>17702205
>Sex really isn't that big of a deal

Ehh...it's more failing to pass all the usual social milestones on the way to being laid. You're usually a social retard at this point in addition to being clueless about sex except for some warped ideas through porn consumption.

Instead of your first time being sweet and awkward, it's just sad and pathetic.

>>17704482
>>>17702205

>Ehh...it's more failing to pass all the usual social milestones on the way to being laid.

This is basically where I am as a 27khv. If by some miracle I managed to get to the point of actually having sexual contact, I don't know what I'd do. The idea is so foreign. However, just getting there is a problem in of itself.

It's not like I'm a cave troll who never goes outside because I can do the social thing. Hell, people usually end up liking me because I can put on a good show. However, I can't get close to people, and either miss cues of interest or dismiss them entirely for other reasons because I can't fathom anyone actually wanting to be with me.

I'm also a v-card guy. My problem is that my mind seem to go blank whenever someone is trying to hit on me and say dumb things. Well my face is surely not a problem for I attract people from both genders. Is it lack of practice, or I'm just simply an idiot? Here's one sample out of many of the same kind:
> one afternoon, my co-worker I barely know (a leggy latina a head taller than me) called me inside the stockroom
> when I went to her, she closed the door and said to me "I'm so excited! I think I've lost a lot of weight, what do you think?" And then she pulled her pants down to her thighs, really giving me a good view of her underwear.
> my mind blanked and went to autopilot, I made a big smile and told her: "Wow that's great! Congratulations!" AND THEN WALKED OUT THE ROOM.
> punched myself in the head later for missing another great opportunity.

Oh god, when will the suffering end for me?

>>17704567
Bait.

>>17704510
>It's not like I'm a cave troll who never goes outside because I can do the social thing. Hell, people usually end up liking me because I can put on a good show. However, I can't get close to people

See, this is what I meant, being a virgin past your early 20s, usually means your social life is pretty lifeless as well.

Like, I don't think I ever been close with a friend, let alone a girl. I've always been the background guy, the last person people come to.

I didn't lose it until I was 23 desu. Met this 16 year old on whisper (legal, UK)

We met up and fucked that night. Was good

What I'm saying is, go complain about being a 25+ year old virgin on whisper and you might get lucky

>>17704714
Nope. I don't wanna be that sleazy.

Besides I don't really want to hookup with someone more than 4 years younger than me. There's like a perciptable knowledge gap from people more than 4 years, like if I talk about casstte tapes but it just draws a blank for them.

>>17704710

That's pretty much how I am, too. When I had a fairly regular group, people would just forget about me. When they would invite me, I was always just sort of there. I didn't see what the big deal was just hanging out unless we were doing something. At the same time, I didn't want to just leave because that would be weird. I just kind put up with it.

With women, it's pretty much the same, I guess. I can chat just fine usually, if they are part of the occasion it's even better, but any further than that? Nothing. I want to point out that this isn't putting them on a pedestal, but rather it's more that I feel like I have to read more I to it? I don't know.

I've largely given up and have accepted wizardry. I honestly don't see myself being with anyone, especially not intimately.

>>17704510
Get an escort. That's what I'm planning on doing.

>>17705133

Why? It's not about the sex, not really. Do you really think paying for sex is going to solve anything?

26
Dated a 1/10 girl that I dislike, she is the first
Ended up hurting myself
Blocked her and everything
Still hating her

>>17705181
It will make you less fearful of it and thus more confident.

20 years old here, know I'm heading down the same path. Just a terrible mix of bad luck and no confidence. I'm told all the time how someone like me should have no problem finding someone, or hooking up - yet I do. Anytime I get anywhere it's just someone stringing me along. Never had a GF, nothing. Having no experience is fucking embarrassing, and especially nowadays with social media and online dating/apps, I'm so far fucking behind of everyone else that it's too late to start.

Not to mention that this is a terrible time to be in the military, and getting into law enforcement. Most people these days fucking hate cops, and think everyone in the military is some kind of third-world baby killer. On top of that, most women don't want to date or settle down with someone in the military because they wouldn't want to deal with them going away for around a year.

It's whatever. I have no positive future anyways with anyone, I'm in this shit for the action, excitement, adventure, and the constant hope that it will kill me soon.

>>17705265

>paying for sex
>building confidence

Pick one.

>>17705265
This. Nothing boosts your confidence more than being in your mid-twenties and having to pay someone to fuck you, well after all your friends have already been doing it with people that actually like them.

>>17705307

I'm fat and I've always been fat, but I've got a large frame. I had a friend growing up that was fat on a small frame. He was fat as fuck.

He stated having sex in middle school. Like, we did the same nerdy shit like play WoW, and he got the girls. He tried setting me up with one. Like, she was sitting next to me on my couch, and we just sat there awkwardly because I thought she was forced into it and didn't want to be there.

We talked on AIM, but it felt like a chore. She probably liked me, but I eventually just went invisible to avoid her without hurting her feelings.

I'm just broken, I think.

>>17705265

No it won't. Don't listen to this schmuck. This is the worst advice I see given here.

>>17705303
Sex would become less "scary" and you would see it's no big deal.

>>17705377
What would you suggest?

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>>17705290

Huh, are you me?

I just turned 24, working my way towards a gold shield. The idea of sex terrifies me. Lately all I've wanted to do is focus on my professional life, finish college and get my own place.

You'll be ready when you're ready, I guess.

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I'm 26, hugless and kissless. And I couldn't be happier.

>relationship drama
>wasted time/resources
>stds
>pregnancy
>too many unknown, uncontrollable variables
>no thanks

I don't know maybe I'm one of those new age term things, "asexual", whatever it means. I've never felt the need for a companion or the desire for love. I do fap but most of the time I don't even need porn or anything. I know I could get laid, I get flirted with a lot but I don't care. Honestly, I'm pretty sure I will die a virgin, like a monk.

People are a bell curve. People like me are on one end, sex addicts are on the other end, and most people fall in the middle.

>>17705463

It's not about being "scary" you fucking mong.

And here I thought I was a sad sorry excuse of a person I lost mine at 18 when all my friends had been fucking since 16 I feel alot better about my situation lol I wish the best of luck to everyone,

>>17702070

Take my advice guys, this virgin label that we have created is meaningless, it's just an experience you have yet to have in your life, I understand the social pressure to get rid of the stigma but honestly you can just fake it until it happens. My first time was at 21, I didn't really have an expectation of losing my virginity any time soon but it just happened as life does, ended up dating that girl for 3.5 years and now I'm single again like it never happened at all. Now I'm no longer a virgin but I feel no different to how I did prior.

My advice is to not put emphasis on it, don't let it control how you act because the people you meet won't think twice about it. If you do meet a boy or girl and like each other it will inevitably lead to sex, and it happens so casually that you think you'd been doing it your life. I didn't disclose I was a virgin until about a month into dating my ex, when she was curious how many people I had been with prior.

Hey I'm 20 and I'm still a virgin, i didn't talk to a girl for some years now... So yeah no hugs or kiss. Humm I loved a girl once, and I gave her my time, my love and money if I had. I found her kissing some other boy, I couldn't fell worst and since then i didn't tried again. I have 0 experience with girls, nowadays I feel like I will find a girl that likes me and don't come after her because I will not see it comming, I'm ugly, fat and I dont love having friends so much. Where's the point in having sex with a girl if she's just "pretend to" ? Do you ever had this feeling when you feel like no one can help you ? And girls just dont have this kind of problem ? Actually I'm really scared of meeting with a girl that is in couple without knowing... Because all effort will be in vain. Mostly lose all my confidence because I feel like a boy scam over boys, because I'm still young and I hope it will change.. but I'm not here to witnesses any changes. I don't like this so much, this isn't for me.

>>17703980
Like what?

Lost mine to a prostitute at age 21. Been sleeping with them ever since and focusing on making money + studies.

>>17705512
>asexual
Incel you mean.

Never understood why 4chan tolerates aseuxals and trannys but hates on every other minority.

>>17702070
Do girl see it as a red flag being a 25+ virgin?
Wont they think there s something wrong?
Obviously you cant hide it

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>>17702070

I lost mine at 29, to the woman who ended up becoming my wife.

If you're assuming I was nurturing some kind of "save it for marriage" belief, I wasn't. I think people should absolutely have sex before marriage. If you want it, and can get it, by all means have it.

I had very few opportunities to have sex before her, and I didn't take those other opportunities because the girls were strangers who meant nothing to me and I didn't want to be stuck remembering them forever as my first.

I basically just wanted my first to be someone I was in love with, whether or not there was any hope for a real future together. It just worked out that the first person I fell in love with I ended up marrying (mainly because I got a late start in the love game).

As for how I finally got a gf and fell in love after being alone for 28 years, it had to do with a cognitive decision that when my mind offered up all the ways things could go wrong and end in humiliation for me, I would acknowledge those fears, make peace with them, and then move forward regardless.

I remember one night before we were a couple, we had just watched a movie together in my apartment, and she said she should probably go back to her dorm and sleep, and my insecurity told me that what she was really saying was that she didn't want to be around me anymore and was trying to leave politely, and yet I suggested to her that instead of leaving, she could stay with me and watch movies all night, and I remember asking this despite being certain, *certain* she would say, "no." But she quickly agreed.

I think moments like that are part of it. Moments where you try, even though your insecurity is screaming that you'll fail, because you've decided you are strong enough to endure failure, and anyway, your insecurity is a dick and doesn't know what it's talking about.

Was a virgin (hookers don't count) until 28. I'm now 30 and like Anon above, this woman will be my wife, if only because we have a kid already (long story).

I don't know why but with her, the social anxiety disappeared and I allowed myself to be ballsy. Maybe because I was a foreigner in her country and could get away with any trouble when communicating? I don't know but everything was smooth. Flirting for 3 weeks, she proposes me a massage, I accept, see I shouldn't try anything when she comes (could feel her lack of emotion, she probably thought she was crazy to propose that), convinces her to come back for a second several days later, we play around, I fondle her chest and the rest is history.

Fun fact: she was a virgin as well. Maybe that's why she was so fertile back then...

My message is: there is always hope when you least expect it. I thought that was a meme but hey...

>>17702580
Anyone have any advice?

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>be me 26
>met girl online
>would bang/10
>nose kinda weird but who cares
>"whats up?"
>she seems like she wants to talk a lot
>nice
>invite her over and she says yes
>nervous as hell but me be calm and stay focused on the prize
>she come over
>me say "now is my time to fix my virginity issue"
>we start to watch Lord of the Rings
>she says me remind her of Frodo
>Frodo is not the hero Sam is the hero
>throw a fit
>kick her out because she doesn't understand
>be me, still virgin

>>17706010
She was trying to compliment you, how could you get yourself into a fit over something that dumb?

>>17702205
No, fuck this retarded sexual liberty.
I only want one girl in my life. I'd rather be virgin than a player.

>>17706000
Nope. This is literally where the buck stops. I don't think I've seen a single successful story for people 25+ on 4chan.

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>>17705983
....those aren't inspirational stories.

>>17706028
>I'd rather be virgin than a player.
I don't think there is any risk of you ever being a player.

>>17702205
Disgusting

>>17705512
Yeah , keep telling yourself that not fulfilling one of your fundamental natural needs will make you happy. All parts of your life contain some sort of drama and troubles, don't kid yourself.
Also , what's with the whole obsession with relationships? I'm a 25-year old virgin too, and I just want to fuck and cuddle and nothing more. Other than virginity, my life is good and moving upwards. I just want a warm, friendly, dirty qt I can fuck the shit out of and kis and cuddle afterwards. I wouldn't even mind a casual hookup, though easing into the whole thing is probably better if you have no experience.
I mean , if hookups aren't your thing, there's still casual dating, flings, fwbs or just meeting up a few times and seeing where it takes you.
What's the rush to get into a relationship? Be productive with your life, make friends, meet people so you don't have to feel lonely anymore.

>>17705983
10/10 Post
I reached my "breaking point" jsut a few weeks ago, and I'm feeling the same. Could have even gotten laid this weekend, if my insecurity hadn't acted up in an inopportune moment and screwed me over and told me I had failed when in fact I didn't. Then again, I overcame my fear and actually tried to kiss a girl for the first time ever, so now I can do it again.

>>17704767
Don't talk about cassette tapes. Probably one the things that made losing the v card harder for me was being into weird shut like that. When I was 17 I put on a laserdisc and watched it with a girl I was trying to schmooz. Waste of time. The only angle I've been able use and still talk about shit like that is tease them and belittle her slightly for not knowing what your talking about. Otherwise just fake your way through all her stupid interests. You'll be better off if you can convince yourself she's dumb and a women and really doesn't care what you have to say. Save that for after the deed. once you've done that as long as you did well, she'll hang on your every word

>>17705962

Why can't you hide it? I lost mine a few months before turning 22 and no one thought twice about it. I have friends who are in their mid 20's who are still virgins too and they're normal guys. If you let the fact you're a virgin control your behaviour then people might know, otherwise it's impossible to tell.

Sex will be awkward and probably not great your first time with anyone, it doesn't matter if you haven't done it before. As long as you're not living under a rock and have no clue on female anatomy and have some kind of aspergers or autism it's pretty hard to tell a virgin from a non virgin.

>>17705290
Kek. Hi, me. 23 khv. In this for the action, something for my ego to fall back on, and just dreaming of getting a nice deploymeny and wandering the great open plains without any women in my life, then one day just fucking die and although i may not get de pucci at least ive spent my life doing something that almost no normie would even dare to touch.

But hang in there anon - im losing my v card tomorrow to a 6/10 tindergrille! Get some good pics and just keep at it. This is my first success after literally a year

>>17706130
>otherwise it's impossible to tell.

Yeah, people can slip into conversations about sex every now and again.

28. There's this girl that I met not long ago. She told me today how she's been with way too many guys in her early days. Told her that I've never done that because I just decided to blurt it out and her jaw dropped really hard. Initially I thought that by now people would notice, given the information that I give them about myself. But apparently it comes as a surprise. She thought I was kidding and she just threw compliments at me.

>>17706454
Telling girls straight up you're avirgin in a factual, non-whiny way is a GREAT way to get them to fuck you, and even do some of the heavy lifting/make moves on you. If you're a normal guy, most find it intriguing as hell provided they're into you. Also, chicks like to conquer too, and stick your feather in their cap.
Addionally you show quite some balls by openly stating this fact without being a bitch about it, and girls dig balls.

>>17706129
Or you know, learn to treat grown up girls the same way. The fact that you needed an actual child for learning how to treat women you want to fuck is kinda pathetic tbqh. Did it at least enable you to bang other chicks from then on?

>>17706390

When you're seeing someone new more often then not they won't ask for you sexual history before you are in any kind of relationship. Most people don't even want to know. It's also not something you're obligated to disclose unless you care to, to some people virginity is a bigger deal then to others.

>>17706555
If someone asks, I just tell them. More than having balls I guess I just want to be sincere to avoid issues later on.

>>17702070
28 year old fat kissless virgin. I have a house, car, good job, college degree, and a decently sized varied group of friends. Everyone acts surprised when I tell them I've never had a girlfriend or had sex. I look good on paper and feel like if I had a shit personality then I wouldn't have so many friends who love me... I must I so be that fat and ugly. I always try to be the positive one with my friends but on the inside I'm hurting so bad. I've spent lots of money over the years on strippers and cam girls because that's the only sexual contact I'll get, really. I've lost weight four times with each time being around 40 to 50lbs just to gain it all back when I lost motivation.

I am responsible for my situation and I can't blame anyone else. It just hurts so bad sometimes. This is why I actively encourage my younger early twenties friends to be better than I was and to enjoy their youth.

>>17706129
The cassette tapes are besides the point, my point of reference it quite different from people more than 4 years younger than me.

Plus I don't want to be a sleazeball like you.

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Are we seeing an increase in late age male virgins? Or is it just that technology allowed to see what was always there?
Part of me thinks there is an increase due to the fact that the culture has gotten more promiscuous as technology and apps evolve.

>>17702070
It's simple
Kill yourself and press respawn
New life and another 25 years to go

>>17706960
If you're average you get shafted hard. Online dating and apps make it so women can easily pick and choose what they want. If there are plenty of above average men that are into them, they have literally no reason to settle. They're rewarded for being picky.

>>17707191
This, plus women actually prefer to not have sex at all rather than go for an average guy when there's no one else better available (unlike men). If you lost the genetic lottery you might as well kill yourself.

>>17706705
Try again. Your very life depends on it.

Get a rope, tie a noose in it, hang it from your ceiling and look at it every time you lose your motivation.

Because THAT is what you're doing. You're just taking the lazy way out instead of being decisive about ending it.

Do you think all the girls in the world would make you happy if you had them as your ugly, fat self? Really?
No.
Fix your Body, fix your mind at every cost. Fight to the last: Even if you don't make it, you can go into your grave saying that you tried, and tried for real.
I don't know where people go after dying , but I know THIS:
You r final sleep will hold no rest for you - because wherever you end up, you'll always know that you spent your waking days rotting away like you will once a corpse ...
Take your Suffering - it is Life's gift to you.
Because it has the power to drive you to change, and once you have learned to change yourself, you can make yourself into whatever you want to be. And this is the only key to greatness, true contentment, and most of all - mastery of your own life, Body and mind.
DO IT

>>17707386
T-thanks Shia.

Full fledged wizard here. Haven't crafted any hats, gowns, or staffs yet though.

Interested in finding companionship in someone that goes as deep as it does with my online friends. The only reason my online friends are not enough for me is that I need to find someone with the opposite parts of mine for the procreation ritual.

Unfortunately I seem to have a complex over whether a partner would have participated in the profane act with another in their dark past.


I do not expect to find another that meets this requirement, in this age.
My lineage will end with me.

Soon 23, no girlfriend to this date, no kisses to this date, like three platonic hugs and that is it. Currently no job, living with parents.
Never been friends with a girl. I dont attract girls, few girls attract me.
I dont meet new people and I dont know how, I dont want to bother people.
Maybe I am just broken.

Have you guys ever heard of dating apps and websites? You know, those apps and websites where you upload a pic of yourself and find girls all around the world just like you that feel lonely. Many are not only desperate, but also hidden gems that think they're not worth anyone. I highly recommend it.

Lost it at 24. For me up until then I was just afraid to talk to women because of low self esteem and fear of rejection. What I've learned is that it's purely a numbers game. You're gonna get shot down 9 times out of 10 maybe more, maybe less depending on where you live. The biggest thing you'll need to work on is confidence. Women are attracted to confident men. So go in there with that mindset and you'll find success eventually.

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>>17707371
Well dating apps are not for everyone. But remember that every girl's eyes are different, and every girl has a different definition of "hot". I considered myself to be a weird looking dude with glasses, and noticed that this girl with a bf found me attractive and strongly hinted that she wanted a relationship. I was a complete pussy at the time and never actually asked her out because all I wanted to do was lose my virginity, not hurt someone's feelings (stupid, I know). I of course did not know this at the time. When I looked at her fb, I found images of this bf that dated back to before we had met, including love messages that confirmed they were together, and I could swear that he was way better looking than me. He had some decent muscles, no glasses and looked like a very outgoing person. Moral of the story: There are girls out there that don't see you the way you see yourself and others.

Also, remember, it's easy to lose confidence because of what one girl thinks of you. DON'T. Chances are, the girl just a few blocks away from her thinks otherwise.

>>17706555
I think that you should always tell them you're a virgin, even if you're not a virgin. Unless the girls aren't virgins themselves. I think girls get put off if they hear that you have lost your virginity, because of higher risk of STD's and other complications (especially if they're virgin too). Now virginity is a topic that should probably never come up if you're talking to a girl that's not your girlfriend just yet.

>>17707667
But remember that every girl's eyes are different, and every girl has a different definition of "hot"

You can tell yourself that or accept the truth.

Sure there's some differences in what they like, but generally we all find the same features attractive, its been scientifically proven multiple times throughout history

>>17707570

Most require Facebook, and all require good looks or at least a good picture. Beyond that, the numbers are incredibly favored against the average male in favor of the average female.

>>17707667

Nah. It's not about what one girl thinks. It's about what every one so far has thought on top of what I think.

>>17706987
Nah

I lost mine a few weeks ago just after my 24th birthday. I was chatting to some chick from Tinder and went round to her house to "chill". To be honest I wasn't even planing to fuck her but it just happened in the heat of the moment. I couldn't cum at all. 10 years of daily death grippin' it has killed all sensitivity I think.

Probably going to fuck her again some time this week but I'm beginning to think I'm in way over my head. She's wanting thrown around and choked...

Wish my luck.

>>17707191
>>17707371
>in this guys mind, ugly to average girls don't exist.

Don't listen this idiot.

>>17706960
More so the technology has got to the point where losers no longer need to leave the house for literally anything, so they never learn to socialize or anything, so they remain fat/skinny, lethargic and undateable.

I lost my virginity at 31 but it was fucking horrible. It was with a girl from /soc/. She was psychotic and smelled like feces. Then she threatened to kill me if I didn't fuck her. She seemed normal online.

Not even sure why I went through with it, but whatever. It does make me want to cry when I think about it though. Sex is damn depressing.

>>17708422

I go out and socialize, but I'm pretty undatable.

>long history of depression (20+ years)
>mental illness runs in the family
>I have zero self esteem
>despite efforts I haven't been able to lift it
>fat despite being tall and broad
>uncontrollable eating binges that have been getting worse
>fit of anger over pointless shit

The list goes on. It takes so much effort just pretend to be a normal person, but after all these years, I'm slipping more and more. Why would I try and date someone when I'm a walking train wreck?

>>17705996
>Fun fact: she was a virgin as well. Maybe that's why she was so fertile back then...
Has *absolutely nothing* to do with fertility. You just screwed at the right time to fertilize her egg.

idk why I post in these threads. I doesn't help.

Honestly at this point, if I could experience love once in my life, even with no sex, that would almost be enough for me.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Everyone in this world has their own life, their own friends and people they care about. Feeling like I *deserve* someone's attention is a cancerous entitlement that *should* be frowned upon.

I was meant to be alone, no matter how much it hurts.

>>17705504
>You'll be ready when you're ready, I guess.
I am ready. I try to take opportunities when they come to me, but it just never works out. And the longer things keep not working out for me, the more of a red flag my lack of experience becomes to people - and no matter what way I can try to explain it, people will always think "No that can't be it, he's just using that as an excuse to cover up the real reason he's never been in a relationship - he's probably crazy."
>>17706169
I would imagine that if all I wanted was some quick hookup with some tinder broad, I could if I got insanely lucky, especially if they didn't give a shit about my lack of sexual experience - but that's not what I want.

>>17708517
You know what's bad? When you're the only single person of your friends. Now they're all busy with their girlfriends or boyfriends, and you have no one to hangout with because for some reason you can't do what they do. And now, you also have no one to go out with to social settings to pick up women. Being alone romantically sooner or later forces you into being completely alone socially too. It's fucked.

i had my chances but for one reason or another i never went through with it. in some way though just knowing i could have done it is enough.

i like the idea of having a girlfriend and companion or whatever, but in the end im way too selfish and i have things i want to do that i couldnt do if i had another person to worry about taking care of.

plus a good friend of mine recently got jail time for something he didnt do because a woman said he did it. you hear stories about gold digging whores all the time but never had one so close to home like that, fuck it i can just jerk off.

having said all this i really do think a good woman would be the best thing for me, it just seems so impossible for anyone let alone a dummy like me.

Kissing someone is easy as fuck. If you are a kissless virgin, kiss someone before trying for sex. I will make a nice step-by-step greentext for you:
>Go to any party, bonus points for university ones (you can still pull it off at 25, if older just go to a club)
>Get drunk as fuck
>We here are all socially inept, so don't try to make conversation with girls, instead go to where the music is louder
>Proceed to approach any girl who looks as drunk as you do
>Do not say anything, either make some gesture at her or just approach her by slowly touching her waist
>If she pushes you away, go to the next one
>If not, put both hand around her waist and touch her with your body
>Dance for a little bit by grinding your bodies against each other. Try to be sensual, it will more more naturally when you are horny and drunk
>After a while go and kiss her, if you got this far there is no fucking chance in hell she will refuse

And for those doubting my credentials: I had my first kiss at 19 and lost my virginity to a ugly as fuck girl I was not into at 22. I'm well below average looking, although I'm not fat (neither I'm fit mind you).
However I managed to kiss about 20 or so girls. No, not much by any means, but enough to devise a method which sort or works.
The main reason I never got past kissing into sex was I got too drunk and tried to go sexual too soon. Also I'm a fucking terrible kisser and that put girls away.
Still, making improvement. This year I'm going to work towards fucking an average-looking girl.

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>>17708605
>approaching others unintroduced
>forcing yourself on others
>seeing women as a puzzle to be solved, with sex as a reward

>>17702070
be fit, and tolerant of constant incoherent babbling, shower them with complements and elaborate on said compliments with some reason she is unique. wait for silent eye contact for more than 3-4 seconds and make a move.

>>17708628
>approaching others unintroduced
What the hell do you think people do at a party? Christ, if you go there and only ever talk to people you know you might just as well stay home.

>forcing yourself on others
Where did I say to force yourself on others? I just described a way to approach girls even if you have no social skills to do it by talking.
If she dances with you that means she is interested, if she says no, walks away, looks the other way or anything similar, GO AWAY. Insisting would be creepy as fuck, unless you are 110% certain she is just trying to tease you.

>seeing women as a puzzle to be solved, with sex as a reward
Social interactions are hard, and presenting yourself as a potential partner is particularly hard. It is just a MUCH more direct way to approach girls while making it very clear you do not want friendship, a relationship or anything similar. You just want sex.
And lo and behold, people do go to parties to fuck strangers, even women. If you want to be part of that you need to approach them.

>>17706023
I'm not sure if she was complimenting him, as he didn't ask for elaboration. It could've been a backhanded compliment. Still, he reacted irrationally.

>>17708650
>Where did I say to force yourself on others?
>approach her by slowly touching her waist
>touching people without asking

>>17708561

Shit. My friends were having sex long before me. My younger brothers all have had regular sex except for the youngest. Hell, two of them are engaged to great girls, one of them. has a kid and the other is high functional assbugers. Then here I am, the oldest and have never had a girlfriend. It is hard to believe that I'm anything but broken.

>>17708568
>i like the idea

The longer I go, the more the idea seems less appealing. I've lived a solitary life for so long that the idea of someone always trying to talk to me or be around me or whatever just sounds annoying and tiresome.

>>17708662
>touching people without asking
Holy crap, I knew people here would be socially retarded, but this is going a bit too far.
You are at a blooding fucking college party where everyone is either drunk, high, or both. You go to the single place where it is literally impossible to hear what anyone is saying, and the designated meeting spot for those who want to fuck, no questions asked. You LIGHTLY TOUCH someone to get their attention and signal you are interested. If they signal back they are not you go away.
Do you really view that as forcing yourself? God it is OK to touch people if you don't do it in an inappropriate way, don't go full autistic "M'lady" when approaching woman.

Maybe you live in another country or go to other kinds of parties where the culture is different. But over here I can assure you, doing what I described is actually a quite polite way to approach girls. It is a little too direct, so you only do it at places you feel it is appropriate and only approach girls who you think might be interested, but it is extremely common.

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I've been had some close encounters with woman, but something always happens. Whether I end up sabotaging myself, someone cockblocks me or I'm just being downright oblivious to signs, I can't seem to lose it. And the more I fail the more frustrating and shitty I feel, almost not worth going for if it puts this much strain on my brain.

I'm beginning to feel like I've been afflicted with a fucking curse or something.

>>17707570
I've been using online dating for nearly a decade. I've not gotten a single date from online dating. It only works if people think you're attractive.

>>17708787
Either you are terrible at conversations, have a LOT of competition or are just plan exceptionally ugly.
I've met a LOT of people who absolutely are NOT good looking (ranging from average to unattractive, but not hideous) and they did quite well on dating sites.
Okcupid, tinder and pof seems to be the most commonly used. Strange you've had so bad luck, you must be doing something wrong.

>>17708794

Different guy, but I've always avoided dating apps because you need a Facebook account with a lot of friends, and good pictures of yourself. I hate looking at my pictures, so I can't get a good picture even if I tried.

>>17708813
Most apps don't require a facebook account.
As for photos, you do need them. But god, put some effort into it, learn your best angles, take pictures when possible and sift thought old photos to find decent ones. It isn't that much work.

>>17708822

>learn your best angles

You don't get it, I can't. In all my 27 years, I have never looked at a picture of myself and liked what I saw. All I see is despair, and it crushes me.

how do you make friends? I'm out of college and don't have any

>>17708794
I'm on OKCupid. I'm average on the attractiveness scale, supposedly. My results tell me in really at the bottom though. I'm also not white. When I was younger, I'd occasionally have protracted discussions with women in the site. Now…I get nothing and the girls that visit my profile have gotten drastically less attractive. I've moved, so that might have something to do with the types that view my profile now.

>>17708904
If you are black or latino I can see why that would affect you, specially in the USA. If you are asian however, I think it would actually be better than being white.
How old are you by the way? Maybe it is an age thing?
Also, OkCupid is more about serious relationships. If you are inexperienced or are looking for something more casual, try other apps..

>>17708922
Why would Asian be better than white? From what I've seen and heard, they've got it the worst when it comes to dating.

>>17708942
Hm, over here there are quite a few younger girls who are into asian guys. Your typical "wah, I'm a nerd! I looove anime" teenage girl, which is not to complain.
After that they are generally viewed of as smart, which is more important as you get older. And if you are both asian AND fit boy, life if good for you. You are basically what they wanted when they were younger, but presented as a full grown, intelligent and muscular man.

But that probably varies a LOT with location, specially between countries.

>>17708959
I call bullshit. I'm in the US and they can't get anyone here. Where are you?

>>17708994
Brazil, which has a very strong japanese presence.
It is the country with the most japanese people outside japan, so that is probably part of the reason.
How old are you anon? I'm curious

>>17708822
I can second this. I only recently started becoming one of those faggy picture takers. complete with selfies and learning what and how to make yourself look better

>>17709018
Any general tips or pointers on where to start learning to share with us anon?

28.

I've been trying for years. I get blue balled last second. It really feels like a curse, or the universe doesn't want me fucking for whatever reason.

>>17708739

Holy shit, are you me?

i have this girl who im 90 percent sure is in to me but i cant go over the "friend" talk mostly because im 20 years old and never had a female friend so i talk to her like how i talk to one of my male friend. what should i do to tell her im interested?

>>17709087
Don't give up, you fool.

>>17709002
Ah Brazil, that explains it. The US used to have a significant Japanese population, but the older ones have been returning to Japan. Also the WWII concentration camps probably have something to do with their attitude.

Being fetishized by Japanophiles is not my idea of attracting women. Maybe if I was just looking to get laid it might, but I'm looking for a relationship.

I'm 33 and still holding my v-card. I've been in one relationship but have dated another woman briefly. I won't just have sex with anyone because I'm afraid of pregnancy and STDs (mostly pregnancy) so I've reluctantly made the decision to not have sex until I have the means to support a family.

I live at home with my mother and her idiot SO. I make ~$30K a year in an entry level position that I had to change careers to get. Where I am $30K isn't enough to afford an apartment by myself and be able to put money away for savings/car/house/retirement. I'd be living paycheck to paycheck, only a crisis away from moving back in with my mother and her awful, awful SO. That to me is *not* an option. I need a sustainable situation before I can move out.

Going to to the city is expensive, but I do make the trip once in a while. It costs too much to do regularly though. I work a front facing position and the last thing I want to do at the end of the week is deal with more people.

Basically I'm trapped.

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I have a date tomorrow, and I want to make a move. Should I say something like "I want to kiss you" or should I go directly for it?

>>17710651
Go for it when you have an opening, but don't jam your tongue down her throat. Take it easy at first and suck her face. That's really all it is. If you go long enough, then slip a little tongue. If she's receptive, you can give her more tongue.

>>17702562
Ich fühle dich, Digger.
Selbes Problem hier aber es ist trotzdem machbar!

>VIRGINS
the most kindest persons on earth
easy to mind break ( depression if a break up)

>>17710696

It's not like there's a correlation between depression and virginity or anything.

>>17710696
I wanna disprove your little factoid but I'm literally the only person in my social circle who is still a virgin.

Wizard here

Will kissing and having sex just come natural to you when you try it the first time?

One of my biggest mental blocks in trying to make physical contact with a woman is that I'll be so awkward and blatantly virginal that it will kill the mood and put her off.

I overheard female coworkers once talking about sex and one of them said that "there's no such thing as 'practice', a guy will either always be good at sex or always be bad at it."

How true is that?

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I'm 23 handholdless and kissless virgin, and I doubt that my situation will change in 2 years.

To be honest, the very idea of sex doesn't really intrigue me at all, and in fact, I find it somewhat revolting. I mean, sure, when I am horny, I can look at porn and masturbate, but afterwards, I am disgusted at the shit I have watched and what I have done. I doubt that I would be able to be intimate with a woman even if the situation presented itself. I wouldn't know what to do, and I would probably be too disgusted to do anything anyways.

I do long for closeness like hugs, cuddling etc. I am extremely lonely, and it is driving me insane.

I'm guessing it's somewhat true.

>>17710976
Well, I thinky you answered your own question.

>One of my biggest mental blocks in trying to make physical contact with a woman is that I'll be so awkward and blatantly virginal that it will kill the mood and put her off.

>>17711205

I can sorta relate to this. It isn't the lack of sex that gets me down; it's the lack of companionship. However at the same time, I can't even fathom anyone wanting to be with me, and the thought of someone always wanting to talk or be around or whatever just seems annoying after all these years of solidarity.

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I am man that is 28 years old and it's pretty obvious why I have never had sex


Because I have never tried too. I have never been on a date. I have never asked a woman out nor has a woman ever asked me out. I have never attempted to kiss a woman nor has a woman ever attempted to kiss me.


I'm just inert.

I'm only 21, but I haven't talked to a girl who isn't a manager at my job in over 3 years. I've never kissed, held a hand, or even texted a girl I knew in real life.

How can I avoid getting to 25 with no meaningful relationships? I don't have a facebook or any form of social media, which makes me feel like I'm at a huge disadvantage when it comes to talking to girls, but I feel like no one would even add me if I did make a facebook.

I guess people dont know how to read


>Im 12 years old and have only had my dick sucked how do I stop being a virgin

if you arent 25 you are still a god damn kid

>>17711982
read >>17711982

I am well on my way to being a 25 yr old virgin. I'm fat, my teeth are fucked up, I dropped out of college, I work in a warehouse, I have no self confidence whatsoever. I need some hot tipz

>>17711971

27 here

I asked a girl out once when I was 20, and her reaction haunts me to this day. It took me about an hour of psyching myself up while we were chatting, and when I asked her, she had the face of someone running from the villain of a horror movie.

>>17708794
Not everyone I exchanged messages with was someone I was interested in. And most that I was were nowhere near me. The few I that were in my vicinity never responded to my messages.

I would read their profiles, then mention something of interest from them, usually ask a question about a subject they were interested in or something we shared in common.

I had more success getting responses from women I just wanted to chat with than women I would've liked to go on a date with. I did not change my messages depending on my attraction, so it wasn't my messages turning them off.

There was an instance or two when I found out the girl was jailbait too. Not going there! They did not come back when they were legal.

I should also mention my ex within weeks of trying dating sites had dates. It has been 3 years since we broke up and I've not been on a single date. I lobe around old people. If there are any my age in my area, they are married. Occasionally, attractive woman will show up while I'm at work, but I risk sexual harassment complaints if they don't like I complimented their style, appearance, or asked them out on a date.

30. Lost at 28. Good-looking enough to please girls but a combination, lack of confidence, laziness and video games stopped me from getting outside and bother.
It was not even autism, just mild social anxiety that didn't stop me from being an amusing, pleasant individual with good conversations. Once I thought maybe I could try something. I would ponder too many approach scenario, lost myself in them, go "nah" and give up.

If I have one advice, it would be to start it slow with lines that are autism-proof "Wanna share a coffee/watch a movie/join a card orboard game?".

>>17712013
>autism-proof
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>17705229
Jeez 1/10 ? How low can a man fall..

>>17712943
Hope you learned your lesson - what looks like the easy way out is ALWAYS shit in thruth.

t.25 yo virgin about to make it

Im almost there bois
We get to the point of touching/rubbing genitals against the others but she doesnt want penetration

How do i convince? she keeps saying "I've never done it before and it could hurt"
I tried trusting a little while we were touching and she got a little mad.

>>17713267
Tell her that you didn't either.
Get her in the mood, kiss her, slowly move donw along her neck and tailbone while touching her body all over. Keep going further until she stops you - or doesn't ;)

>>17712943
>low

Well, at least he did it with a chick instead of a dude in a dress.

>>17713267
It probably will hurt. Sex is usually not pleasurable for the woman the first few times. A woman told me this herself.

>>17713423
>A woman told me this herself.
Yeah, but women are quite stupid.

>>17713468
You're suggesting it's her fault it hurt her first few times?

>23 year old virgin
>Might be going to prison soon
>Tfw never will be non virgin unless I'm raped by a nigger
FUCK

28 year old virgin.


Always been open about it, and just make jokes from time to time.


I just keep doing what I've been doing for so long, and that's nothing.

>>17712943
>>17713264
>>17713333
If we didn't date she would probably a 6/10. But then learning more about her and learning more about myself, we just don't go well together and im sure im a 1/10 to her.

I think Im saying very nice things here. kek.

>>17707728
It's simple. You don't bring up virginity to beg for a fuck. You bring it up if asked, so the person has an idea of what to expect. Or because you don't give that much of a fuck about it and it's just a fact.

>>17712243
You can't go wrong with that even if you're a social retard. That's the meaning.

>>17704567
hah, got a better one

>girl I slightly know invites me over 'for coffee' via text
>ok, whatever, I'll just hop by after work
>we go into her room
>eagerly: "this is my mattress btw"
>"kk, now can you make coffee? I'll unwrap the pieces of cake I brought"
>why is this chat so awkward
>leave after 10mins, forget about the whole thing

like 4 years later, out of nowhere, I wake up in the middle of the night, one thought prominent: w-what IF SHE WANTED SEX?

21 yo KV here. How do I solve this problem? My current social circle has 0 females in it. I think that's the main issue here. How do I expand it?

>>17715648
try going to bar or club and approach girls there

I lost mine at 26, to a fat girl in a different country.
Then i had a date a year later and had some more sex, another fat girl who i didn't stay with. We didn't get along, i didn't like her because she was fat, it was merely, a sexual oportunity for me.

Instead of using girls for sex, i started frequenting hookers and currently still do so.