So in all seriousness why should I not kill myself? I'm

All of this just for sex? Pay an escort if u want sex. Enjoy life.

>>17695543
no sex also means no gf

all I want is a girl I like to lay with me and watch shows together and just a relationship

I've never had a relationship with a girl in my 29 years of life. If it were just sex I'd be fine with masturbating.

You won't find girlfriend material in a bar OP. What are your hobbies?

>>17695551
video games and tv shows/movies

Praise the Sun

>>17695537
You obviously don't understand anything, and are willing to blame anything else other than yourself. You are a boring person with nothing relatable to another human being. Thats how you get laid. You become relatable to someone else, to the point they feel you've known each other for years. That's how you get the sex, and trust, you stupid piece of shit.

please

I don't want to kill myself, but I'm tired of being alone. I feel like I've done and tried everything but girls never seem interested. What hobbies do I pick up? What do I start doing or saying? These past few months I've also had another mental breakdown where I was going to kill myself but didn't and I treated my life from then on without fear since I felt like I cheated death. I still haven't had success with any girl, not one, with all that confidence.

>>17695581
I do blame myself. I do nothing but blame myself, which is why I've been suicidal my entire life.

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>>17695546
>using pickup artist shit at bars to try to get a gf

>>17695557
Like the other guy said, try something relatable. Try hiking OP. Then try running those hiking trails. Try to beat your times. Then try new trails! When women ask what you like to do, you say "run on trails and hiking. I like traveling around and conquering trails." Maybe invite a grill to hike with you.

>>17695588
not a gf, just anything
any sort of connection, I used to be very timid so it wasn't until I read pua shit where I understood my faults
still, even with tons of confidence wit and humor I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I keep conversations going, I don't play the question game. Still girls look off to the distance and want nothing to do with me.

because you fucking keep fighting you fucking faggot of a OP

women are fucking retarded, but if you really want to have free sex then work yourself and fucking try it until you're dead. being rejected is part of the game, you will score 1/10 probably.

men have the power to literally become a 10/10 without even trying too hard. fucking do it and quit crying bitch nigga

>>17695584
You need to stop trying to impress people or fake shit. You probably don't realize that people can spot fakes, and clingy people. Don't be clingy. Actually try to obtain skills to make yourself useful. Gain experience and casually slide these stories into your conversations. This is how you open up, and allow yourself to be relatable.

>>17695537

>in and out of extreme depression

There's your problem.

You have mental issues, and i bet you have visible symptoms that put people off.

Go get some hookers, then check yourself into a hospital, you will slowly work your way out, otherwise feel free to die a complete and utter failure.

>>17695592
keep it going

the pua shit is magical, won't get you a long term gf probably but at least you can score a couple of decent chicks. search more videos or info about that shit, it will help to improve your game

Hey OP. What about dating websites. Do you like to get new restaurants? Try one new restaurant in your area, every day. That way you can recommend people food. GREAT conversation starter and for grills to getv interested in you. You may be able to invite one to have some lunch with you, after you notice that she's into of course.

is there some suicide prevention website where I can chat with someone online? I really need help right now

>>17695613
we're here, bro

don't do it. life is awesome, you just need to change your glasses and be free. we all gonna make it

>>17695616
I just want to talk to someone

>>17695618
then we're two, dear anon

try to focus in the possitive stuff in your life, there's always one small thing that makes you smile or laugh, even for a second.

million of people would love to be in your shoes, think about it

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Why does a female mean that much to you? Nine years... thats is so much pain... elaborate. Social anxiety? PTSD. Be more specific if you can. Please don't die.

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Please get off 4chan. It's dangerous. Ask advice anywhere else. Death is nothingness... No human can comprehend

>>17695627
idk about you, but not existing sounds pretty great to me

>>17695622
no I don't really think they would

I used to think this, being american oh the dream. I'd rather be in some 3rd world country but with a normal social life than the one I've had. I never realized how much my anti social behavior would affect me until now, now that the damage is done. I guess people read right through me, I have no interests other than video games tv shows and youtube. I work our but that's anti social as well. I used to never care about this sort of stuff. But every year it gets worse and worse. The more I see others be happy the worse I get. I keep it all inside and since I never established those good friends I can never release anything. I think about suicide multilple times a day now. Its gotten to the point where I almost meme myself and think it's funny... almost.

I keep telling myself the only reason I don't actually kill myself is so my only 2 family, my mom and sister wouldn't be devastated, but that's only half true. I've already had the gun in my mouth, I know I just can't pull the trigger. Even if I'm in pain every single day I just can't fucking do it. It's almost like it's worth living in pure agony than to finally rest. I guess it's curiosity. MAYBE it might get better, that tiny sliver of hope is what stops me every time. I think when I hit 40 and my mom dies since she's constantly in the hospital and there's only a downhill road I'll finally do it.

Damn OP, don't listen to these peeps. A lot of them are flat out mean and toxic.

For some reference I've slept with 7 girls and I've been in 4 serious relationships. I'm 23

Sometimes I'm shy and it can be tough for me to approach women but it's never too hard. If I really like someone I'll be very honest about it and that's how its worked for me in the past.

I don't dress well and I don't have any money. I don't workout (though I should really pick it up...). I take care of the necessities like shaving, haircut, nails, teeth. I'm decent looking.

Honestly I've never put too much effort into getting with women and getting into relationships. I've always thought about it and I always enjoyed my time with women but I never put much effort into trying. Recently I've been putting a lot more effort into this endeavor because I wanted to build more intimate connections and get to know more people better.

So here are some pro-tips

>>17695631

1) Take good care of yourself. Shower, shave, trim your nails, brush your teeth and floss, get a haircut that looks good on you. Women (and all people) are far more interested in good looking people. specifically people who take good care of themselves.

2) Do some mild exercise daily. 30 minutes to an hour, just to build up some stamina and strength. You'll feel great too.

3) Fix up your fashion if it needs help. Like I said, people want to get with attractive people. Find your style and do it.

4) Read books on how to talk and be social. I recommend "How To Win Friends and Influence People." It made me a better friend.

5) Read books in general. This is sort of off-point because it's not directly related to getting into intimate relationships and getting a girlfriend...but you'll become immensely smarter by reading intellectually stimulating books. Intellect is probably one of the best characteristics to have.

That's all I can think of right now. Have any questions?

>>17695630

It's me again, same poster from above giving the "pro-tips."

Look man I used to be in your position too. I used to play vidya literally aaaaaall day. Once I'd get home from high school it'd be vidya 24/7. I was very friendly with people in school but I wasn't very socially outgoing.

All it takes is practice. Educate yourself, create a plan, and put it into action. You have the capacity to be a social expert, you just need to work on the skill.

>>17695635
I've been doing that for years already... I'm fit, great haircut and fashion. I'm very smart like I've said I have a lot of wit and humor when I do talk to people. If it were that simple I wouldn't be here right now. I guess no matter how much I try to fake it, people pick up on the tiny body language signals I give out showing I'm not actually 100% comfortable in social situations. Other than that I can't see what is so wrong with me to have this much trouble. I'm definitely not ugly I've been told that by many sources.

>>17695644
I just don't get it. If it's this hard at the state that I'm at right now, which not even lying is not half bad at all, then I can't imagine what its like for others that are worse.

>>17695657
>>17695650

>then I can't imagine what its like for others that are worse.

Yeah it can be pretty bad for some people. I'm friends with a few guys and girls that are my same age and they have a tough time talking to girls. Few have never kissed, had sex, or had a girlfriend.


>If it were that simple I wouldn't be here right now. I guess no matter how much I try to fake it, people pick up on the tiny body language signals I give out showing I'm not actually 100% comfortable in social situations

Yeah man it's not so simple...but it's not that complicated either. Look around you man, there are a bunch of guys who are unattractive, unfit, poor, uneducated, etc etc. who don't have trouble being intimate and getting women. If you have all of what you say you have, you simply are missing something.

I bet it's not a big thing either. Probably something small. Maybe you just don't like to talk to people or something? Maybe you give people the impression you're cold? I've definitely had trouble with that in the past and to this day. I can be very cold and calculating when a topic that deeply intellectually interests me and I often easily depress people (and that drives them away). But at other times I'm very warm and friendly. It's about knowing when to be which, cold or warm.

Don't worry man if you care about this you'll solve it. Get that extra stress off your chest, just be confident you'll achieve it if you actively try to accomplish it. Pick up a few books, talk to people with similar interests, practice, practice, practice. I assure you a month can make a huge difference.

>>17695635
Shit man sound advice but everyone does that stuff.

OP, just live for something. Women are this minor, side entertainment thing. So it can't be that.

But maybe there's a job you always wanted, or a skill/thing you've always wanted to learn. Or maybe there's a cause that interests you (saving/helping people, animals, etc.). Or an hobby group that you always wanted to try (running, painting, dancing, rockclimbing, etc). These are all things of substance that will make you a happier person. So focus on this.

Your endgame is not women; your endgame is just to be a happier person.

>>17695666
yeah after every one of these episodes I get better. I've even gone up in front of my college class to speak which I was never able to do before. I just thought, well the worst that happens is that I completely embarrass myself and actually finally do go through with it and kill myself, so fuck it. I just hope this is the last time, I don't know how many times of going through this I can handle before it's really the last one.

>>17695681

-The guy you replied to

Hmmm that's a tough one...I'd have to agree and disagree. I agree that being a happy person is the thing you should strive for and doing things you enjoy is a colossal part of that, but so are people and intimate relationships ya'hear?

I mean look around you. There are two major things that every human being strives for: survival (jobs for working to make money to buy food and pay rent and hospital bills blah blah blah) and a family. Those are the two major necessary components of living organisms so there's obviously a massive incentive to do those two things; it's built into you.

I think a good way to put it is it depends on what you want, whatever it is. Some points in your life you just wanna be alone and live in the woods or play vidya like a madmen, other times you want to be surrounded by people, be super social, and have tons or sex, or be in a relationship, or start a family. I've been through these phases.

So hey if OP (and anyone for that matter) really really really wants a gf, I say go full-force. I've done that before and it worked for me, full-effort into trying to get a girlfriend. You read, work on yourself, socialize, and you'll get it.


>>17695684

It sounds like you need a quick boost to your "will to live," to know "what it's all for." For me, if I spend too much time at home or if I read for too long or if I read something that shakes up how I see the world and hurts me I forget "what it's all for." I become really depressed and under the weather, but that's normal. It sounds like you've been under the weather for a while. A good walk in nature does wonders for me. Also, go do something new. Anything new, new neighborhood, new city, new food, literally anything new. New stuff works 100% in revitalizing my enthusiasm. I'm a huge nature nerd (everything secretly is I think) and looking at photos of nature works for me too.

Go for a walk man, go out to nature and just sit down and take it all.

>>17695697

Basically you gotta remember why you choose to stay alive; what's good; what its all for. Pull on those memories of good times and beautiful sights and of gorgeous women. Know, confidently that you can have those things if you try.

>>17695697

> I'm a huge nature nerd (everything secretly is I think)

Correction: "everyone secretly is I think"


Also, like I said before I used to be a huge vidya gamer. Video games have this effect...they disconnect you from reality. It's really damaging if you play for too long. I've almost entirely cut out video games from my life. I'll play maybe a total of 10 hours in a whole month of video games. Whenever I play for video games for long stretches of time (3 hrs +) I literally lose touch with reality. I have a very strong feeling this happens to most people. So video games are very damaging to me if I play them for too long, I lose touch with reality and I fuel an addiction to play video games.

Try cutting out games man. Honestly the major stepping stone in my life was cutting out video games. It was fucking hard. I moved to my dads place where I had no computer. Bro I literally dreamt and day dreamed of minecraft and TF2 and other games because I wanted to play them so badly. I was addicted and addicted bad. After a month or two I stopped wanted to play video games and over the months my addiction went away.

So yeah, try cutting out video games. It worked tons for me, will probably do the same for you.

Also I'll mention that the friends of mine who have never had a girlfriend or had sex before are also the guys who play League of Legends obsessively and other games. There's gotta be some correlation lol.

>>17695537
>go to bars to pick up women for casual sex
>wh-why's the dating scene so fucked up?

literally like going to prison and asking why other men are so violent

>>17695537
>>17695546
>>17695546
If you ask me, you're looking in the wrong place.
You're a social recluse looking for love in an explicitly social environment. Lower your standards, and I don't mean by looks. Go install Second Life, or find some weird roleplay chatroom, and try to get to know somebody on there.
You might surprise yourself, anon.

[spoiler]And don't you dare go hollow.[/spoiler]

OP,

I'm a guy who should have it all. I'm 32 years old, I have a solid career, I'm 6'5", I have a decent face (I get a 6-8/10 usually on /soc/ and they don't take my age and shitty camera into account), I lift and I even roid, I bring my clothes to a tailor because nothing ever fits but the tailor makes sure it does. Of course I have mild autism but who on 4chan doesn't.

I have never had much success with women though. But it doesn't bother me anymore. I am just oblivious to women's signals, hints etc.

So are you, deal with it.

been there aswell, first thing you have to ask yourself:

do you want to live? is your bare naked life worth it? is there enough good and interesting stuff in this world, that you want to keep seeing?

your skyhigh goals are killing your mood, you will not step out of your house tomorrow and a GF will fall in your hands, it means working on yourself and your socialisation.

I was depressed and thinking about killing myself, because I was in unreciproced love and infatuation. Because I never did anything right and never brought my parents joy. Girls actively cut my attempts to talk to them short.
But I decided, I would want to live, even if I were to be homeless, jobless and a permavirgin, because there are things in life I enjoy and want to see, what it looks like from the outside to watch a kid grow up, what keeps happening in politics and so on.

From that decision onwards, I had the motivation and perseverance to get better and do what I needed to do. Because I think I would really like to start a family, because family is important to me. And so I took steps in that directions, need money for a family so I am finishing medschool. Need a girl to start a family, and not just any of those, she needs brains. So I started talking to girls and joining them when they do stuff and developed friendships with them. Once you know how to do that and talk to them without wanting sex or relationships, it gets easy to talk to them. and you see, how nice they are treating you and each other. And it will be pretty easy to talk to a girl on a date.

For me that meant I also tried online dating during all that time, first date I went on was the first GF I ever gotten. And from there on everything went linear, broke up learned a lot, had lots of opportunities, but was very picky and so now I found a really great girl, that I want to marry sometimes down the road.

was it easy? no
was it worth it? yes

I know where you come from, and I know how you feel, it can be done.