FEMANONS: What's normal sexual experimentation like for

>>17662879
I've talked to her about it, and it's reaching the point I'm afraid to continue to do so. The conversation always devolves in one of three ways

She either decides it's a hormonal issue then refuses to see a doctor because she doesn't want proof it's not a hormonal issue

Or she decides I only loved her for the sex. If that were true I would have left a year ago - she's smart, nice, caring, and shares my interests -- the sex was just a REALLY important part of my life that was taken away pretty unexpectedly

Or she promises to improve then never does

She has even pretended like she's taking steps towards improving sometimes. Almost a year ago on my birthday I received sex coupons. Things like "will wear whatever outfit you choose for 24 hours", or "will insert whatever object you choose", etc. However after 6 months of trying to use the coupons I gave up. Literally every time she said "not now", or "I'm not in the mood", or "I can't believe you're asking this of me"

I ultimately ended up throwing those coupons away. What good is a useless birthday present? It upset me more just to keep it around

>>17662880
I guess my primary goal is to understand if this pattern is normal for women: Intense curiosity, interest, and sexual experimentation at a young age (15-22) followed by a complete reversal and lack of interest.

I suspect it might be judging from what limited view of the world I have. Some random evidence:

>18 year olds have just moved out of the house and are stereotypically prone to drunk sex with strangers
>Every girl I knew in high school read smut novels and talked about sex
>Most girls I talk to now have stories about experimenting sexually with their house pets or dolls, but no longer participate in those activities
>Many anime, books, and movies suggest that "at that age" girls are willing to fuck anything that moves, with the age often left vague
>Men complaining that their wife lost interest in sex is a common and huge complaint
>Teenage pregnancy is on the rise even though marriage and gender roles are on the way out among college and post-college adults

Women this day and age are whores. This is why you find a nice Asian to settle down with because they have some self respect and dignity.

>>17662884
It feels like you didn't read my posts. I want a whore, in some sense.

>>17662888
Then I'm afraid you're a part of the problem. Neck yourself, nigger.

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>>17662888
feel*

Damn I can't spell

>>17662879
sounds like she met and fucked some dude and she likes him more

>>17662892
Conversing with someone who doesn't even read my posts isn't going to get anywhere, but I have some time to kill so I'll give it a try.

Do you know what "in a sense" means?

I'm currently engaged to a woman who was sexually open and experimental. She didn't have 18 different sex partners simultaneously, but she afforded me the opportunity to explore my own sexual desires in a safe and respecting environment. I never had to be afraid to tell her my weirdest fetishes because it either turned her on or she would find a way to make it work.

Her desire has declined and I now have no sexual outlet for my deviant thoughts and cravings.

>>17662894
Possible, but unlikely. She spends every hour of every day at home on Overwatch. I figure I'd notice if she were out of the house for even a second.

Is she feeling depressed? Did she get on medication? Did something happen in her life?
It's pretty uncommon to lose all your sexual drive suddenly, and I can't imagine it happened without a reason.
If she doesn't want to solve the issue, tho, you cannot solve the issue alone. You either accept it or break up with her.

>>17662901
>Is she feeling depressed?
Not to my knowledge. She always looks and acts excited. She has gotten WAY more into video games than she used to be. She wasn't allowed to have a computer or electronics when living with her parents (they're kind of psycho) and when she moved out she spent 6 months living with a very poor friend who couldn't afford such. She then moved in with me and I had just the one computer, so we would share it but spent more time talking to each other than online. She got her own computer about 3-4 years ago. She regularly plays competitive games (at a highly competitive tier - she's diamond in Overwatch right now) and talks about it constantly

>Did she get on medication?
No medications

>Did something happen in her life?
Lots of things. She dropped out of college, worked a night shift job, went back to get an Associate's, started a Bachelor's program again, got a new job, moved into a new house, got a new car, got a dog, had a dog die on her, got engaged to,...

>It's pretty uncommon to lose all your sexual drive suddenly
Exactly how "sudden" it was, I can't be sure. Life never changes from day to day then you look back and everything is different. I don't recall when she stopped using the sex toys, but I'm pretty sure we still watched porn and had ample sex at the time so I didn't notice or think about it. I don't know when jointly watching porn stopped, but she was still surprising me by walking into the room naked so I didn't notice or think about it. Maybe it all happened over the course of a month, maybe it took place over a year? I can't be certain.

>If she doesn't want to solve the issue, tho, you cannot solve the issue alone. You either accept it or break up with her.
This is almost an unbearable thought. I'm not with her just for the sex. I'd detail all the ways she's perfect, but I've hit character limit.

>>17662897
>>17662901
this, has there been any changes in her life that roughly line-up with her loss of sexual appetite?

>>17662914
Do you still spend time together? Are you still attracted to each other?
Did you get more distant or something? Is there a chance that she's doing something with someone else, even just online? Did you notice weird behaviours?

Honestly while I do notice changes in my libido, they aren't permanent or long term, they are limited in time, and they aren't all that drastic unless something really bad happened (bad depression, etc).

I wasn't implying that you're with her just for the sex, but there is nothing you can do if she doesn't want to find out what's wrong. You either accept it and stay with her, or leave her and find someone else.

>>17662879

How's your relationship otherwise? Do you do things together, spend time together and generally enjoy each others company?

At last for me in my first relationship the sex life practically died after he lost interest in doing other couple-y things all together. I still had sex with him to keep the relationship going, but it became a chore, so anything like experimentation was off the table. My sex drive was practically zero. In my current relationship this isn't an issue, because we actually do things and go on dates and such. I dunno, but these type of things sort of make me even more into him and when I felt like that the sex life is fantastic. Basically, invest in the well-being of the relationship to improve sex life.

Heading to work so I'm on my phone now. Won't be typing as much.

>>17662932
We do eat dinner together, go to the gym together, I help her with her homework,... But we spend more time together online than off

I haven't noticed anything I'd describe as "weird" other than the decline in interest for my body. She may have additional time pressure between work, school, and games now

>>17662934
I do what I can, but options are limited mostly by time. I take her out to nice dinners at least once a week, randomly surprise her with gifts at least once a month this, we'll go out hiking or go to an amusement park every so often (more in the Summer than Winter). Although I'm working two jobs (my 9-5 and running a business evenings and weekends) and she's in her last year of school so we have little free time.

I feel like she doesn't view the nice dinners as "dates" anymore, though. They're more just... Dinner

>>17662956
>>17662961

From your posts it seems like you're completely missing all the romantic aspects of the relationship and you just spend time together in a "friends which accidentally have sex" way.
I understand that you're busy and stressed, but try to do something else instead of playing videogames or staying online when you're together.
I feel like restoring a bit of romanticism in your relationship, and working on your chemistry as a couple might solve a big part of the issue.

>>17662966
What would you recommend? Because at this point I'm not sure what would constitute romantic.

>Dressing up in a suit and taking her to an expensive dinner is just "spending a lot on dinner tonight"
>Buying her a gift is just "giving her more stuff"
>Going to the park to look at the stars is just "boring, why aren't we playing Overwatch?"

Do you live California by chance?

>>17664237
I do not. Kentucky.

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Get back to me after you've implement this for 6 months.

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Man this is my nightmare. The fact that she refuses to go to a doctor is making me furious.

>>17662880
>girl is girl
>girl is sexy until boy locks her down
>girl is girl
>starts "settling"
>boy wants sexy sex
>girl wants to nest and procreate

This will only stop if you tell her straight up and be a man about it: I'm not building a future with someone who acts the way you're acting because your flaky and anti-romantic behavior is a sign of poor long-term commitment to both myself and to our relationship. It isn't always going to be exciting and fun when you are with someone forever. You need to work on the spark, and she had to know that it is a two way street. Tell her you threw out the coupons.
Don't be mean, be blunt. Tell it like it is. Women respond to forceful attitudes.