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What are you agraid of, OP?

>>17655159
time to hide in shame, its ogre

>>17655159
I'm not sure, I just can't seem to build up the confidence to talk to girls. I'm in my head too much I guess, thinking way too much about shit. But still, I find it hard to even make eye contact sometimes. I've watched videos and read books and still, when it comes down to the situation, I can't bring myself to introduce myself. Only time I do talk to girls are either if I'm in a group of friends or something similar.

>>17655149
Whenever you see an attractive girl, take note of what you're doing that makes you not talk to her, and just not do that.

This sounds like retarded advice but it is the simplest way to look at it. Just go, "how about I just not fuck up this time?" and eventually you won't. Process may be tough and awkward, but I'm noticing that the opportunity to meet great girls and great people in general increases as I develop the habit and gain the confidence. Perception and training.

>>17655180
You haven't answered. Rejection? Judgment? Total HUMILIATION? Most of these you already do to yourself in your head, and that's why you only focus on those things rather than the present moment.
Read books to get in harmony with yourself. Love yourself. Being in your head like tjat all the time is some subconscious way of escaping reality. Find out specifically what you are escaping from

>>17655244
Thanks for the reply and I'll definitely try this. I'll try anything honestly. I just wanna get up in that pussy.

>>17655257
I haven't had any rejection or humiliation because I've never asked a girl out or anything of that nature.

>>17655277
But you do have THE FEAR OF BEING rejected

>>17655288
Yes, I would presume most normal functioning humans do. The only way to get over that is to do what you already said, I know this, but easier said than done.

>>17655344
You limit yourselftoo much. Just do

>>17655347
I limit myself because I have no self esteem. I don't believe I can actually achieve any of my goals/ambitions. my rational mind knows this is a falsehood, but that's the nature of the beast isn't it, my insecurity isn't rational.

>>17655354
The real achievement is persistant effort. You're not even trying. Translate fit discipline into social skills developing discipline

>>17655149
Are you me from exactly 10 years ago?

If so, then just so you know, nothing has changed and you still have low self esteem and can't talk to girls at 29. Except you're also way more depressed about it now and regularly contemplate killing yourself.

>>17655360
I'm not exactly sure what to do to improve this. Most say the best way is actual interactions. I can't do this because I can't initiate an interaction. What would you suggest I do to improve this. I have the will power and the integrity to improve myself, like you said in the gym. The only difference is the gym, I go, workout, leave. I don't know how to exactly "train" my social interactions.

>>17655367
OP this nigga right here is a bitch nigga. OP has potential if OP climbs over that bitchass hill

>>17655367
And maybe I am but I hope that my future is different from yours, no offense. You can change it though, the same as I'm trying to do. You just need to ask for help, no shame in that.

>>17655378
Set yourself goals.
E.g. "say hi to 1 person on monday, 2 on wed, 5 total by end of week" don't have to be girls, you can talk to guys too
Try joining random discords and shit, practise small talk (maybe see >>>/soc/ for that?)

>>17655354
damn you're literally me

>>17655378
In what kind of city do you live, OP?

>>17655386
I live in the metropolitan area of a medium sized city. Millions of people basically.

>>17655383
Nah bro don't let life shit on you like that. I made this thread only to benefit myself. I take every piece of advise I can get to try and better myself. You can do the same. Remember that rocky quote "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life". You gotta stand back up. Even I know this.

>>17655379
He needs more help than me right now.

>>17655401
Millions of people, and ya still scared. Bite the bullet and take that first step. Pay attemtion to surrounding and notice things that you might use for conversation. Millions of people means not all of them will have same reaction. Some will be much more positive than others, but what really counts is that you remain positive.
Try going to a bus stop and ask "hey do you know if this bus goes to ()?"
Or ask cashier at restaurant "do you know what () is like? What is your favorite?" Basically just starting small and you will see that social interaction is not so scary

>>17655382
Thanks man. Most people on 4chan don't give decent advice. You are on the contrary. Thanks for taking the time today to help a fellow anon. I'll take what info. You've given me and implement it.

>>17655413
yeah i know

i was just commenting on how uncannily similar our situations are

>>17655434
Understandable. I think alot of young men go through this exact situation now a days. Not to go all /pol/ on you but I believe alot of it has to do with how feminized boys become because of highly contaminated food, water, air, and energy frequencies have become. Estrogen and feminine chemicals have been found in all types of human consumables, proven to lower testosterone and feminize men. I think porn and masturbation also contributes to this.

>>17655424
True. I guess the best thing is just to go out and do it. Guess I'll just start no fap again and stop being a pussy.

>>17655425
Heh, most people - when given advice - don't follow them. I had read a book once "How to communicate with confidence" and it really helped me.
You gotta understand that everyone has their problem and each person has their own way of dealing with them. Some people might just need a hero who shows up out of nowhere and just listens to vents. Other people would tell that hero to fuck off out of their way.
Good luck buddy. I like how you are really eager to learn and improve. Stay positive

>>17655445
i don't know about the other stuff but i definitely agree that porn and masturbation (at least when it's excessive) can contribute to unrealistic expectations/insecurities and other things that would hinder a satisfying romantic life

>>17655453
You can still fap, but as all in life - in moderation (and without porn (or only strictly amature)). Twice a week is more than enough

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>>17655460
Thanks Bros. I appreciate any advice and thank you for your time.