i manipulate people into beliving im completely useless and enbling

Fuck you.

>>17631605
if its worth anything i just realized that i was doing it all my life, i had 0 awearness previous to this day

>>17631601
And what do you want advice on? Just kill yourself, fucking retard.

>>17631619
i dont want any advice, less than 20% of threads here are asking for advice, i never needed either advice nor help since both enable me
i realized the problem wich is step one now i have a long road ahead of reconstructing myself and my self esteem.
I thought having a breakthrough was worthy of a thread, shame this is australia posting time

i just thought admitting it would have some sorth of weight and its way too late to call anyone
plus i kind of hoped the first post would be congratulations

>>17631640
>plus i kind of hoped the first post would be congratulations
Sounds to me like you're still behaving like a child.

>>17631653
have you watched evangelion at all?

>>17631654
No, I'm not a faggot.

>>17631601
well, what are you going to do now that you understand? DO SOMETHING. Otherwise your epiphany would be in vain.

>>17631659
Attempt to better my future because I have no control of the past

>>17631659
As a first step I will talk to the people enabling me and ask them to stop and demand better of me to offer help but not excuse my behaivours or acknowledge my excuses and when there is a problem to point it out but refuse to let me get away with it
But maybe that also is expecting people to solve ky problems so I should just apologize and keep it simple, just break the ilussion because they are actively being manipulated into taking part in this

>>17631601
>>17631627
>>17631640

I'm like you, I don't know what your personal situation is, but I'm an old NEET, never moved out of home. Its just time for us to grow up, no one can do it for us. Be a fucking man. Its not all about being a slob and doing whatever the fuck you want. None of us want to be decent and respectable, we all want to drink beer, get high, watch porn, play video games, watch movies, talk shit, go to hookers. Anyone here who pretends otherwise by call it "degenerate" is just denying reality.

But you actually have to have a life, responsibilities, be self sufficient. You do the shit posting and jerking off all day as much as you can get away with once you have your life together. And yeh women are always going to call you useless and complain about you not doing enough, doing the wrong things around the house. We simply will never give a shit about the same things as them and its hilarious to watch their moods and watch them get upset and hysterial over ridiculously trivial things. Women are fucking crazy.
It's not as hard as you think it is, its simply a manner of routine and getting some disciple into your life, like working regular hours. Do exercise in the mean time as much as you can, its a solitary man cave activity but its actually good for you.

>>17631601
Is this you OP?

https://youtu.be/kAFk0cu6gJs

>>17632177
It's mostly about fear
I don't know about you but I have actively been attempting to get out since forever only to end up back in square one and now I know why, it's easier to believe I can't do anything if you see me try and fail, I never moved on and pretending I really wanted to get better without moving on was outright disengeuos

>>17632197
I don't actually guilt anyone into anything tho I'm just the most disgusting soon you have ever seen and constantly rambling about how expecting things to get better will only make you feel worse in the long run

>>17632197
I don't abstain from guilting people because it's a wrong thing to do but because I have too much pride to actually use guilt to control people, I would rather just cut them out when they are not being useful

>>17631658

Then why did you use a picture from Evangelion. Also, I think the original series ends with people congratulating Shinji Ikari. Also, using the f-word, not cool dude. Maybe you should watch Evangelion, since it sounds like you are having an existential crisis.

Wait a freaking second, are you mocking some of the people on 4chan? I think this is something Socrates tried in his Apology that he gave to the people of Athens who were to judge him and order him to commit suicide. I can't exactly remember, but he would say something like "I don't know much of anything even when I traveled around asking people for knowledge that I can listen to." That would remind the people who were going to sentence him to death of their own ignorance. Something like that.

Dude, maybe you should go drink hemlock.

>>17632456
He is not op, I'm op

>>17632456
I posted a picture of evangelion because I realized all this while watching the show