There used to a neet / improvement general thread here, what

It's dead. There's an IRC channel, but it's dead too. They only idle there.

>>17586884

But why did it die?

It used to be quite active as far as I can remember.

>>17586882
Her legs on the right seem to be photoshopped, they look deformed.

You can make the thread again if you want.

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>>17586894

Wanna make it with me anon san? wanna join me in a new generation of improvement threads?

Check out Tohno-chan. You might like the /so/ board.

>>17586967

I was more like looking for things oriented towards improving, forming a healthy group, you know what I mean.

I guess I could go to reddit... but I hate reddit.

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>>17586882
Every neet board/forum/irc i know are always dead af.
The best thing you can do is bring them back, as a neet, i'd like it.
Also... are you the same asukafag from the other group n shit thread?

>>17586882

the reason NEETs are NEET is that they lack follow through. you'd think it'd leave copious time for personal projects like that but any great personal or fan work tends to be done by people who have at least a job cuz they are just generally driven people

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>>17587135

Thats me anon!

Wanna be my friend?

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>>17587210
I'm Phi.
what's up?

>>17586882
>>17586890
NEETs are too lazy to improve.

>>17587217

Whos phi? that anon is phi? or is this phi and that anon is another anon?

Hello phi, how you doing, when are we making our friendship ''official'' huh?

would anyone be interested in a NEET life improvement discord?

Will it lift of? will it die quickly? I dont know, but I would.

>>17587280
I just made one if anyone is interested.

https://discord.gg/szM9mSH

I'm not sure how long this thread will stay alive because this is pretty much my first time coming to /adv/ looking for a NEET thread/group or if it'll even take off though.

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>>17587309

Thats awesome, now Phi can finally join us!

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>>17587330
Well, now i'm not sure, but keep it alive, i guess...

>>17588473

But Phi I thought we were becoming great friends?

>>17587309
What do you hope to achieve by having a NEET community take off?

I think I'm doing this wrong.

Am i suppose to try and chat with the girls on Tinder and am I suppose to be as funny, fun, charming and to the point as possible?

>>17587148
Bad habits are hard to break and good ones hard to make.

Supposedly it takes 12 of consistent effort to break or make a habit.

Most neets get disappointed at the slow level of progress and loose interest.

>>17586890
NEETs don't improve, they degenerate. They were hostile towards help.

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>>17589499

I see. Personally I didn't visit those threads but It always seemed to me like it was a good idea to have them as I thought them to be helpful for a growing (?) community of people that more or less ends up here (4chan) because of whatever reasons.

Whether they were or not, I don't know.

Personally I believe such little spaces are a must when an individual is always in contact with the vast amounts of negativity that can be found here. Such thing couldn't be made on r9k since they are either too blind or too hostile towards what they would call a ''positive approach''. Other boards also present certain reasons why such a space doesn't fit, making adv the perfect place for it.

More or less, the main reason why such a space is needed is given by the amount of threads that are posted related to the same subjects (improvement, neet status, coping with failure, making good habits, etc) that are either lost among the vast amounts of relationship threads we get here daily.

Plus is would be nice to have some type of support group in which to rely on as, and I am speaking from personal experience, it sucks to be alone when enduring tough times (obviously)

However, making it exclusive for ''Neets'' would be the incorrect approach. So a more general name should be chosen if it was to be carried out.

>>17589656
Bad habits are hard to break friend and hope is such a delicate treasure.

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Wow adv/ice... just, wow.
I know this is not "/nice and kind"
But, why the hate on neets in this thread? we are not /b/ this is not the old 4chan, here we have good people, a neet (or whatever you want to call it) would be pretty good, after all, we had those threads here.

As a neet, feel kinda sad reading this thread, just, don't wanna let this die.

>>17589145 Phi here
Hmmmm, is just that im busy and couldn't visit the discord chat, how is it going?

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>>17589749

Some guy made it, invited me to it but then he closed it down, his name was Gum or something.

I dont understand discord desu.

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>>17589765
I know, discord is weird, atm im stucked in my ps3, and it's really hard to try to... do anything out of 4chan or youtube :/ and suddenly feeling like why even browsing /adv/ or any other board?

Hmmm, i'll try to keep the idea alive tho.

Could you explain your idea of the improvemen and neet (or whatever)thread?

>>17589816

Having a thread with the primary intention of forming a community of people who share the same interest of seeking help.

The end goal being to support each other and follow up on our personal goals.

Personally, I wouldn't mind to help others or try my hardest to follow up on their situations. If we can all strive for a incremental progress, following some method, perhaps we could achieve some long term benefits.

I guess you could say we should aim for companionship over anonymity if it is to work.

Other than that, I am welcome to suggestions.

>>17589932
Yeah.
Nice idea.
Now i hope we can join more people.

>>17589946

B-but Phi you wont help me!?

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>>17589951
I'm limited to download and post images... and play vydia.

Tell me how can i help you, and i'll try.

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>>17586894
If this helps. Looks like theres some sort of brown bag or box in the foreground, creating this weird illusion.

>>17589932
There was a thread on this board that formed a community that lasted for two years or so. It was maintained by two or three people with good intentions but it imploded anyway. It probably didn't do much to help anyone even though a lot of effort was put into it.

If you think that neets are going to band together and work together to succeed then you're conjuring up a fantasy that will probably end up hurting way more people than it helps.

Good luck if you do try however.

>>17590007

Making it neet focused is far from my intention.

If such was the case, wouldn't last long until it turned into a big echo chamber of self pity.

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>>17590007
>will probably end up hurting way more people than it helps.
So sad, why and how it happened/would happen?

>>17589963

First step is to embrace my friendship Phi :^)

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>>17590026
Well, i'm here and hmmm, this Psyduck, my fave pokemon.
Done, sharing things is important, isn't? now you.

>>17590019
The self pity is the least of your concern. 4chan has a lot of people with serious mental health issues from past traumas and/or innate personality disorders. Some of which are not easily recognizable through text communication. Gathering people from this site in one place will most likely lead to a lot of drama and pain.

How are you going to handle a situation when one or more people who are trying to succeed end up failing? How will you handle it when one of them ends up failing so miserably that they become extremely depressed or even suicidal? Are you going to ban them or kick them out for not trying hard enough? Are you going to remove their only emotional support system when they're suicidal even though they're bringing the rest of the people in the community down? Are you prepared to emotionally support people who are struggling and whose lives are falling apart no matter how hard they try to succeed? Are you prepared to kick out predatory people who take advantage of people who are disadvantaged? Are you capable of detecting psychopathic people or people with personality disorders through text only communication that will rip your community apart from the inside out? If you're not then I would walk away before you get yourself involved in something that swallows you up and consumes your life.

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>>17589479
12? Holy shit that's a lot!

>>17590070
Are you capable of emotionally handling a situation where someone you're helping commits suicide?

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>>17590062
Sad cuz true and i knew that.
At least we're friends OP.
-Phi

>>17590062

The obvious approach would be to identify my limitations and those of the group. Clearly aiming for this to help such people is a big stretch from what it was planned originally.

Hence, limits should be established to the capacities of the group in order to type of people that can be helped and can, naturally, form part of the group.

So making this a group aimed for a diverse range of problems will only widen our range of action, lessening our effectiveness. Logically, this should be avoided.

In other words. It is best to aim this group for ''certain'' types of people if it is to work. Else, the scenario you mention will most likely happen.

>>17590095

What's to handle here exactly? The person is dead.

But you are implying that I would be, to some degree, guilty of such a thing. As if my intervention eventually induced him to commit suicide. Sure, that's one way to put it. Question above still applies.

>>17590116
True, also, is not like this groups "Fix" lifes 100% guaranteed.
i give up too easy.

>>17590116
All of those situations happened with the previous community and I went through each one of those scenarios and many more. Regardless of what preventative measures you take you will have to deal with these exact situations if you decide to start up this type of community from people on 4chan. You seem serious, the first person I've seen that seemed serious enough to pick up the torch so I couldn't stay quiet.

But I've already said too much, the past should stay in the past and I should try harder to remain anonymous on this site.

>>17589932
This is actually the reason why I came here. We're like minded people, and we share the sane struggles. We should stick together.
I always wanted friends that understood.

>>17590141
Too bad, just recognized you.

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>>17590141

Your warnings are appreciated and, while I do believe they will most likely happen (as I too do know how the people here can be), I cannot just sit still in the face of such a problem.

IF such a project is to be carried out I will keep everything you said in mind.

>>17590127
It's easy to say until you go through the process. There's also the off chance you have no empathy which in that case I would say you're not the person that should be trying to start this type of community.

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>>17590160
:') I'm glad we're friends, i just ran out and tell my dog bout this.

>>17590163

You are completely right. It is easy to say.

But I do have empathy, trust me. However, have to consider that, given such an event, we, as a group, cannot put our efforts to rest and give up completely.

A failure is a failure, but its no end of line, nor shouldn't it be.

>>17590160

Perhaps we should set up a provisional way to contact each other?

Like that other person said last night, a discord group seemed easy to set up.

>>17590116

hmm i got an idea.

No one can deal with very deep problems and you can't help people that don't want it. Most people on /adv/ are lonely that is why most people come here.
They look for answers and a way to escape from them selves. So lots of issues that people have are directly linked to this.

So idea is to focus on resocialization(and stuff related to it) and help people get out and make friends,gfs etc. Resocialization is lengthy process so this group can support in it. I helped few people(IRL) in this so i know how hard it is and it takes
lot of opening up and getting to know person to really be able to hit the chord.

Point is even if we don't have answer we can look for them together and learn from
each others experience neet or not.

>>17590220
A discord group sounds good. I missed the one last night because it was too late.

>>17590228

>Point is even if we don't have answer we can look for them together and learn from
each others experience neet or not.

I support your idea as it fits the goal of achieving some sort of companionship. So we should also keep what you said in mind.

>>17590279

I just made one, if that counts.

https://discord.gg/DtVDr9U

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Very well then, it is settled. I guess I-ll bump this thread for now.

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>>17590457
Better bump it more than that

>tfw too anxious to even walk down the street,

Anyone else a neet because of anxiety?

>>17591760
Yeah, basically, how do you deal with it?

>>17591844
I stay inside the house all day and take vitamins to make up for missed sunlight.

>>17591864
I don't take vitamines, just go to my garden in the sunny days and play with my dog.

Never had a panic attack in the street or something like that?
The other day i yell at some guy that tried to do some graffit, yell loud, like: Fuck off, it's my park bitch.
Then felt weird and walking to home was a hell.

>teenage NEET
>no parental supervision
>skip school every day
>drop out because I missed so much school
>more time to NEET with no pressure
>WoW and Counter-Strike all day
>for years
>get fat
>really fat
>dad asked me to play catch with him on weekend
>(divorced parents)
>I oblige. I'm so awkward and out of shape
>can't keep balance, fall trying to make first catch
>keep playing
>wear myself out
>wake up next morning
>so sore, can't move, holy shit

It's been awhile now, but looking back that might've been my wakeup call to how bad I'd gotten, I was probably.. 16 or 17 at the time.

But, anyway now I'm
>24
>healthy weight
>full time job
>low-middle class salary
>girlfriend for 3 years
>don't live with parents
>video games are still my #1 hobby
>borderline introvert, I only leave the house for shopping, errands, and work.

>>17591883
No panic attacks but even thinking of having to make conversation puts me in a bad mood.

>>17591916
Good c:
>>17591934
Have you tried to, at least, think about trying to overcome it?

>>17592004
I don't know how. I play a team sport and have been playing with them for a couple of years but I still don't have many conversations.

I'm starting to give up honestly.

I'd like to contribute to this.

Im going through one of the roughest times in my life. So I want to really be a part of this

>>17592087
If you ask me, it all started with a job.

I met people, had a group of friends, met my best friend, my first experience with having my own money to spend, and it gives you a great sense of freedom and self worth.

McDonald's. :)

>>17592027
Woah, dude, that's pretty good, i can't imagine myself being an autistic neet, playing in a team.
I don't think you should give up at this point.

>>17592087
Feel free to vent.

>>17592110
I know that feel, i liked it and i miss it.

Thing is, NEETs cannot make friends with non-NEETS. It's the same principle as a girl who's out of your league, NEETs are just too disconnected from the social strata.

On the other hand making friends with other NEETS would be inhealthy and only lead to back and forth self pity.

Once the NEET becomes a NEET, there's no way for him to win.

>no longer NEET
>nothing better except I have a job I spend 45-50 hours a week at

don't abandon the NEET life, people

>>17592180
Where do you got this information, personal experience?

>>17590298

>https://discord.gg/DtVDr9U
Thanks!

>>17586882
Was OP pic related at Otakon? I think I had lunch with her and some other guys

>>17592199
No, we should all definitely seek to abandon the NEET life.

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Trying to summon OPie.

Here's an idea, how about trying to get in on open days at well known companies, our universities, or just a tour of a local castle or something. It could give you a taste of what's available without you actually having to engage much.

>>17592316
I did tried a museum once, i liked it, just because it was a monday and there wasn't people.

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Trying to summon OPie again, can't find you on Steam.

Fuck you OPie, i don't want to be your friend anymore.

>>17592299
>>17592492
>>17593335

How could you not find me, literally first guy.

>>17592292
Nah, I'm even more depressed working.

>>17592180
>On the other hand making friends with other NEETS would be inhealthy and only lead to back and forth self pity.

I don't know man, having SOMEONE to talk to is not a bad thing.

Also not all NEETs are autists.... some are chavscum, trustafarians etc.

>>17593595
Also as a way to forgot my current predicament I went to watch then re-release of Akira at the cinema for the first time. A whole lot different than my tiny screen and vhs combo.

>>17593550
>Borodin >No results
Would you.. would you give me your url ?
i don't understand steam

And maybe i wanna be ya friend again.

>>17593602
Awesome, i'm jealous.

>>17593815

You should join the Discord group.

DO IT

https://discord.gg/DtVDr9U

>>17593946
I can't on ps3, i barely can log in steam

>>17593595
That's wishful thinking. You just need to spend a few minutes in their chat room to see how off-putting them are.

>>17593975

Wait you arent in the group? I though you were.

try this

search for ''steam 76561198059975775''

should get to my steam page

>>17593996
I'm following you.
keep it alive for me, i may join soon

>>17592492
LEPONYFACE IS THAT YOU?

>>17594079

The one and only.

Who are you?

>>17594082
The kid you trolled hard and managed to get him to lose his job, get expelled, arrested and all that good stuff.

>>17594084

I didn't do such a thing.

We still going over this dude?

>>17594089
When did you become an Asuka fag?

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>>17594094

I am not. Its all about the purple haired girl that cucked me with Kaji.

>>17594097
Oh that's cool I guess. Misato is pretty hot. So are you looking for more victims here?

>>17594102

Nope.

Wanna talk on Discord? No commitments or anything, just private chat and shit instead of this meme posting.

>>17594063
I'm Phi, i'm busy, i am charlie8, i like sheeps.
sigh i hate the ps3 browser

>>17594105
Why would I talk with you on Discord? Fuck that app desu.

>>17594116

That way you dont have to add me or anything, just get in it, quick stuff and be done with it you know.

I mean if you want to of course.

>>17594102
>>17594105
>>17594120
>>17594116
wtf? are you trolling? do you have a troll friend? wtf?

>>17594132

Yes.

>>17594132
He is trolling, I was his friend for about 3 years. I am no longer his friend. I suggest leaving this thread and staying away from this guy.

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>>17594134
I'm confused OPie, why don't you add me? just made it for you.
How is the chat? you are supossed to help, not to troll.

>>17594140

Who? me?

>>17594145
you are not funny troll, pls leave.

Why do people talk shit about NEETs in this particular way?

Why are all the contributing factors ignored? How many life savings were wiped out by the recession? How many opportunities to go to college were peeled from existence?

How shitty is the job market, to this day, because of that fallout?

Did people just forget, or what. I've never had a job above minimum wage, and searching has been hell.

>>17586931
I will. I'm using desoxyn for depression and innattention, hoping the high addiction rate of the drug helps me to form new functional behavioural patterns that remain after the treatment is done.

>>17594155
I'm seeing that as well which is why I stopped having a serious conversation with him. I've already detected arrogance and lack of empathy which are traits of narcissists and psychopaths.

Be careful who you all put your trust in, this site is dangerous and these kinds of communities are dangerous. The Internet is a playground for narcissists and psychopaths, these kinds of people can blend in easily and can cause immense damage if you are not equipped to be able to pick up on their subtlety. NEETs are prime targets for predatory people because they are generally in a weak position in life and easily influenced. Please protect yourselves and look inward for solutions in your life instead of seeking external affirmation.

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>>17594446
Pic related, fuck you guys for making me worry all the time. It always turns out to be a cakewalk.

>>17594727

What load of bullshit

>>17594966
I'm speaking from experience unfortunately, you are free to believe whatever you wish however. All I can do is warn people and hope they keep it in the back of their mind.

>>17595099

Dude you have to be really spineless to be any kind of target in which
case you shouldn't be browsing these boards anyway. Also you assume
someone is arrogant and lacks empathy without knowing that person.

Those are also traits of any person. Everyone is narcissistic to some point which come with healthy ego.

>>17595136
His comments above including the one he deleted that I replied to were the basis for my remarks. While it's possible he does not have a personality disorder they are red flags.

Having a spine has no bearing one's ability to be manipulated and deceived by someone who is adept with a malignant mental illness . The good ones put the knife in before you even feel it.

But I've said more than enough in this thread. You are all capable of finding your own truths and unfortunately some might need to learn the hard way.

>>17595136
Also, self-esteem and narcissism are two different things. Narcissism is never healthy.

>>17595184

I think you are overreacting and I don't see how can anyone manipulate me.
All you have to do is be skeptical and you are fucking fine.

If you are wimp that can't think for your self you are fucked anyway.

>>17594962
Uh. Things cost money, and if you don't have that amount of money, you can't get them.

Things like an education. And without it you can't get very far.

Either dispute this or don't bother responding at all.

>>17595136

Hes entitled to his opinion, anon.

No matter what you do, you won't be able to disprove his assumptions. It would probably require a good lot of mental gymnastics, and that is just not worth your time.

I became a NEET after I got fired from a decent job

No friends, socially awkward, never had a girlfriend and said awkwardness got me in trouble at the job

For a while I tried to get a new job but I was never able to because I got fired, after a year I gave up

32, just waiting to die.

>>17595323

>Also, self-esteem and narcissism are two different things. Narcissism is never healthy.

Yes it is two different things but it is not true that Narcissism is never healthy. Google it if you don't believe me.

>>17595362
Of course he is I just think it is wrong to assume that fast. We all get those but you keep it away until you can confirm 100%/

>>17595380

You are welcome to join the provisional group if you like. Can't promise anything, as the group is not ''active'' yet, but would be nice to add you etc.

>>17595380
What are the details? What was the job and what was the trouble?

>>17595348
Ok I'll despite it. Education is fine, you can usually get it paid for in first world countries, but formal education isn't necessary. The internet gives you access to thousands of courses and books that are better. All you have to do is get skills that are actually needed, you will get definitely get calls from recruiters.

The biggest value of formal education is having an organised syllabus. You could design one yourself, but you don't have to because for the "hottest" fields other people/companies have already done it.

For example here is Google's:
/www.google.co.uk/about/careers/students/guide-to-technical-development.html

You can do this for hundreds of areas, companies are desperate for the rarer ones.

Don't doubt the recruiters, my phone wont shut up.

>>17595441
>All you have to do is get skills that are actually needed, you will get definitely get calls from recruiters.
Honestly I just haven't seen enough of this.

Everyone still requires a degree.

>>17595485
A lot of places will list a degree as a requirement, but not actually care as long as you've proved yourself another way. They are human really, they just want another asset to the team. Also, if they chase you through LinkedIn they'll be more interested in your cool projects/abilities.

Although if it's a country like Denmark, where there aren't really any barriers to university, it can be expected.

>>17595513
>but not actually care as long as you've proved yourself another way.
And how would I do that? I mean. I'm sending around resumes. They're just going to ignore mine if they don't see that there. No chance of proving anything to them.

"We said required, not preferred."

Anyone have any helpful infographics about this kind of self improvement stuff? I'm tired of being a DYEL insecure socially retarded faggot

>>17595781
This doc might be helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MOL822Z70BLJZNmDsVQeB5PEeFCFgpIbVLFkfb5eELw/edit?pref=2&pli=1#

>>17595387
Did some googling as suggested. This is the first time I have seen this, psychology is not my strong area but I have found it interesting recently for obvious reasons.

I have heard the term inverted sociopath and functional psychopath so it doesn't surprise me to see there are healthy narcissists. It is interesting to read that healthy narcissism is used as a psychological immune response. It makes sense though. I'll have to look more into this. I try to believe that everyone has a bit of light in them and/or has the ability to be a "good" person even with a personality disorder and this is evidence to that idea in my opinion.

Anyway, I wasn't planning on responding to this thread again but thanks for the insight.

>>17595596
It just means taking your new skill and using it once or twice, not trivial I know. Depending on what it is, it could be your website, github, youtube video, competition rankings, released products, published text etc. A lot of interviews come with real tests, passing those is enough. Anything that says "not a fraud". There's also room for internships.

There is no respect for people at the bottom, but if you have even a hint of being the real deal you'll get taken seriously.

>>17595901
>It just means taking your new skill and using it once or twice, not trivial I know.
>Depending on what it is, it could be your website, github, youtube video, competition rankings, released products, published text etc.
Uhhhh..

I don't even know what skills you're referring to.

>>17595865

I think healthy person will show some narcissism eventually it is required. For example sometimes when you go out to some club or something you have to think
little crazy about your self to make your self approach some girl.

Sometimes you will brag and lie and even become shameless. Exploit some people to get to some goal like meeting that girl or something.

But what makes it healthy is to be aware of it. When you are then it can be positive thing.

What about a cytube group? I tried the provisional group linked in this thread but I didn't see anything related to improvement there.

I made a /nofap/ channel on cytube yesterday that would work just as well for general self improvement. We can stream motivational/informative shit while we help each other. None of that bothering you to make an account shit either.

Mods, I know shilling is forbidden but pls no bully. We're just trying to better ourselves over here.

>>17595945

If you want to improve first stop with that nofap bullshit

Why?

>>17595957
I agree that name is limiting.

new channel is called /r/NeetWard

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This is a good thread that deserves a bump. NEETism is slow suicide

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>>17595945

Well the group isn't ''active'' yet. Its nothing more than a provisional group for us to add each other.

Group wont necessarily stay in Discord (unless people vote for it to stay in it) and name will, obviously, be changed.

Among my plan is to establish a good amount of information related to different topics so we can get our own thread going.

Since we are giving the project a go, me and some other people from the group are setting things up.

>>17586882
If neets improve they don't stick around.

Discord sounds fake and gay to me, but if any of you want to chat on IRC that'd be cool.

I miss the old neet threads on /jp/.

>>17596610
by that logic, the past board was a success

and we're missing out on it

>>17597197
Well that or they all offed themselves.

Maybe they're too lazy to do either.

>>17597170

IRC is terrible mate, I think that's out of the table for now. But its not up to me.

I hate discord, can't join
There will be an irc?

>>17597531

I dunno anon, why cant you join?

>tfw really desperately want to make friends
I'm not a NEET anymore but I'd love to have a place to talk to people. I have no idea how to befriend people in real life and no idea where to meet people online anymore. Some way of talking to you all, or anyone really, would be nice.

>>17597573

Well join provisional group for now. Hang around and ask how to make friends if you have no clue.

https://discord.gg/aMzF5Gu

>>17597573

Welcome aboard. Its kind of dead atm.

https://discord.gg/ZXbsU

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Have you ever pretended to be a normie?

I trimmed my hair and beard today. I've been NEET for 4 years. Tomorrow I'm going to drink some whiskey for courage then get a bus into the heart of enemy territory, the city. At the very least I'll get a restaurant meal out of it, I think after that I'll just wander around and drink a bit more.Pretty close to losing my mind, desu, otherwise I wouldn't consider this. What do you think I should do there?

>>17597642
Look up some of your interests. Do you like video games? Find a combination bar/arcade, they're not that uncommon I think and you might be able to make a friend out of it. Find some cool stores to visit too.

Good luck Anon.

>>17597642

Pretended, sure.

I mean, go do whatever you want to do but only if you really feel like this is the correct path to take in order to approach more and more towards your happiness.

You dont have to become a ''normie'' or whatever you want to mean by that. If you are ok with being alone, being a shut in, do it dude. There's literally nothing wrong with how you live your life.

Go out and take a walk. Don't stress it. Its ok, everything is ok, really, and everything is absurd and everybody feels as awkward as you feel because people are weird no matter where you look.

>>17597653
I think there's one around, thanks brah.

>>17597692
That's nice to say and all but I can't think like that any more, I need to do something, I'm close to homelessness and suicide atm.

>>17597702

>That's nice to say and all but I can't think like that any more, I need to do something, I'm close to homelessness and suicide atm.

Well you didn't mention that in your original post.

Anyways, I mean you know whats wrong, do you know at least the things you need to do in order to fix this situation you are into?

>>17597732
I guess I'm just going to force myself to try and speak to people normally until I don't hate it so much.

Then, I don't know. I'm going to be broke soon so I suppose I'll take classes part time and do volunteer work part time while on welfare. Maybe after that I can actually get a job interview.

This is my plan anyway, I have no will to actually carry it out, hence the wandering around in public in the hopes it will shock my system or something.

>>17597753
slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/16/things-that-sometimes-help-if-youre-depressed/
www.getselfhelp.co.uk
http://www.llttf.com/
Ideally you'll want to get professional help, but for working through depression on your own this isn't a bad start. Some of the latter two websites are behind a paywall but enough of it isn't that you should be able to apply what it suggests anyway.

>>17597753

A tough situation ahead of you brother, but please don't lose your spirit and confront it like you plan to do.

Please update us on this and if you need somebody to talk, just say it mate.

Gotta ask. Any family that knows of this things that are going on in your life?

>>17597762
Thank you. I don't know about the effectiveness of therapy but if I can get it at least partially covered maybe I'll try it.

>>17597772
Appreciate it. My family knows I'm a massive loser probably, but I don't really talk to them.

>>17597545
Im using the app and i don't understand :s

Updates?

>>17598498

Open app and on left side click on circle with + in it. Click join server copy/paste https://discord.gg/aMzF5Gu.

And you are in.

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Such a thread is a great thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNxv3IjcYk4

I'm not really a Neet ,I'm going to school, want to have a job so I can support my family, and buy shits for myself.
But I had a horrible life though.
I'm 20, virgin , kissless , touchless.
But before I get into my present state I'll tell some background
Most of the shits happened when I was 10 years old
till 5th grade I was quite the normal kid , having friends, fights, being a lil bit awkward with girls ,etc. I already had some bullies and it had quite a bad effect on me, became quite less social etc.
At 5th grade I moved into a new school because the previous one was about to be closed. And so I rolled into this new class and things changed.
From 5-7th grade I was massively bullied, ostracised and hated for everything. I was fat and weak, and most of the bullying I received from was girls, that killed the rest of the testes that was left in me. I became socially void, never going out only when I had to do something , or going to school. And thats when I lost all my social capabilities.
That continued from 8th grade to 11th grade. Bullies, loneliness ,etc. I developed monthly series of depression that are still going on.
only the last year I found my place in a chill class where no one is screwing with me for no reason.

But now I'm socially inept, always depressed ,and I just want to die. Its like , it would be better to be dead because I wouldnt have to constantly feel this , this solitude.
I spend most of my days before the computer if not in school, or aikido , or extra math and english lessons.
I tried many times to improve, nofap, learning languages, started painting, working out at home, meditating, trying to think positively, but none of that worked.
And whats worse is that I cant write out all my problems here because I dont know where to begin, its so complex. In the last years I started to sense a bit of distortion in perceiving things ,and collecting my thoughts.cont.

>>17599366

We are here to listen and help if we can. You didn't have it bad as you might think.
You bullied your self more then anyone else and that is something you have to realize.
No one can insult you or bully you unless you allow it. You are probably to soft and sensitive to this things and that is something you have to change in order to be satisfied with your self.

Stop this bs about wanting to die and really work on stuff that bother you. Like instead of
crying how you don't want to live dedicated 90% of your time to fixing those stuff. Even when you fix everything you will find something else to complain about that is how we all are
no exceptions.


Also drop by on discord.

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>>17599366
I'm pretty much the same anon, except I am neet, so at least you're better off than me :)

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>>17599366
cont.
So I started to sense a bit of disconnection, my thoughts are more messy and its harder to collect my thoughts. My english became a lot more challenged grammatically, years before that it was a lot better, english was a lot familliar to me ,but maybe that happened because of the other languages I learned.
I tried to improve in so many ways but none worked. My moms screaming in my ears and all the home problems just kept me unmotivated, and basically I think I lack that life energy .
I spend most of my days here, trying to find fun. The more the days passed ,the more sad and depressed I am, and I dont really see any way out of this but death. I became racist seeing the way the world works, I also have a huge inferiority complex, some sexual deviations , and my pessimism.
In the past I had so many friends on the internetz who I could talk to about my problems, a girl from romania, another two from england, and some other people, but I fucked it all up. Eventually I went a bit crazy and I got into some form of conflict with all of them because I was such an idiot. And so I lost em all. And now I'm alone , I have some internetz friends but they are all offline now awhile ago.
The biggest fuck up was with this romanian girl, now she knows how fucked up I am and also hates me I think, she also had depression for other reasons and I kept "triggering" her until she lost it and just blocked me. And now I have no one.
All I wish for is someone who I can talk to all day without being misunderstood.
I'm a failure, I cant even tell you properly what is my problem.

I wait for my parents to die, so I can off myself afterwards, until then I try to live somewhat normally.
I can't change my way of thinking...
This life is hell, I'M lost, and I can't go back to normal life, never , and that saddens me the most. That I can't get cured. I dont want to go to a psychologist , so I can take a shitty pill until I off myself ...
What do you think?

>>17599394
what is discord?

Yeah I'M soft, and I'm a bit feminine. I don't have problem with that but I just feel that its not normal for other people, but its just a part of me , and that hurts always, I just cant get myself to think and be more manly. Its just that a part of me will always be like that.
I had sexual problems because of that early. Now I'm a bit stable ,regarding this,but still confused.
But its not about allowing or not, if you're weak physically, you cant do shit about bullies. Just hope that they wont ravage your body too much. Even if it did not happen, I was weak, and the more hate I received the more unmotivated I became untill I got to the point of shutdown, not giving a shit, having no hopes.

I can't fix my things, I tried ,but I can't. Its just pure pain if I try to do something against my own will or mood, that is always down.

>>17599401
>>17599366
>>17599423

Hey anon I just read your post.

Drop by on discord and lets have a chat

Discord is the provisional app we are using to set the group up. Join this link and make an account

https://discord.gg/j2a3p

>>17586894
I can't tell if that's a dude or a chick

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>>17599482

Shes most perfect chick.

>>17589479
I mean if it took 12 I wouldn't want to follow through

>>17597573
Those things aren't (usually) that great, it's basically 4chan-lite but with names and to be honest you probably don't really want to talk people who wax lyrical about /pol/.

I'm kinda of at a loss where to meet like-minded people who are on your/my social level.

>>17599564

You can always give us a try. No commitment really.

>>17599564
What is like-minded to you? Most adults connect through work, careers, hobbies, entertainment or while on holiday. Plus the old connections can stay around. Does you time divide into those things?

>>17599625
>What is like-minded to you?

Other introverted obsessive, geek types I guess.

>>17600282
Personally I don't know the appeal of geeks/weebs. I like their games and anime is ok, but I'd prefer to enjoy do those things with normal people who are less annoying and easier to joke around with.

Anyway, I went to a university near a small city. The anime society was half Japanese girls and half weebs. I know there was also a nerdy games girls, who would rent out places like cocktail bars and play something like pokemon cards. As well as a tabletop club. So I guess any big city should have those things.

Online I think you'd just find them obsessing over their thing (like MMRPGs or anime sites).