When we're alone or in a group of other friends, my best

Girls like to play games and fuck with your head by sending mixed messages. But if you have feelings for her and she's worth more than your relationship with your friend then go for it. But if it were me in your place, I wouldn't.

>>17554108
Gota agree with that...not worth it...been there done that and lost the mate

>>17554108
THIS kind of girl? Yeah. Mind games and attention whoring. I agree with this anon.

Also, if you do get with her, she'll do the same to you. Honestly, the fact that you're even considering it, makes you a real shit best friend. If he just kinda liked her, no big deal. But he's in LOVE with her? Wtf is wrong with you man. Not only that, but you're seeing how she's treating your best friend (basically leading him on like a lovesick puppy but refusing to commit) and you're cool with it?

Dumb broads come and go, best friends are for life. REAL best friends- the ones you tell everything to even the ugly stuff, who understand you inside and out. Doesn't seem like you deserve one though.

>>17554129
A guy friend you can keep forever. It's a brotherhood, a friendship forged in respect, logic, and trust.

I have way more girls that are friends than guys. Why? Because girls come and go quickly and love attention. But if you're friends with a guy it's because you like the person underneath with no distractions like sex or romance. In a way it's a pure form of companionship.

I would say keep the guy and ignore her. Not only will you keep him, she'll go crazy for not being able to get your approval.

>>17554108
>>17554129

No, I agree. The guy is like a brother and no girl is worth losing that. My confusion lies in whether she likes back, if she just wants pure emotionless penis from me, or if she's just flirting as a joke and I'm just being autistic. I dunno, I guess I'm just trying to feed my ego or something, it's stupid. The fact that she was at one point involved with my friend means that I wont realisitically allow anything to come from this girl, ever. She's a no-fly zone

>>17554130
>REAL best friends- the ones you tell everything to even the ugly stuff, who understand you inside and out. Doesn't seem like you deserve one though.

wow, harsh

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>>17554042
Bitches aint shit but hoes n tricks.

Bros b4 hoes mayn.

>>17554174
>I would say keep the guy and ignore her. Not only will you keep him, she'll go crazy for not being able to get your approval.

Yeah I've been doing just that. I've been ignoring her and even going so far as physically nudging her off me when she's too touchyfeely. My penis HATES me for it.

I guess I'm just looking for reassurance that I'm doing the right thing, and also trying to feed my ego on whether how many anons say that she wants my D versus how many anons say that I'm autistic and she's just flirting as a joke

>>17554182
Sounds like you've answered your own question then. Yep, just don't reciprocate it because that's what she wants: attention.

Same shit happend to me OP but it was my friends wife. She was telling people she wanted to fuck me and flirting with me when no one was around. Called her out on her shit when we were alone and she convinced her husband to stop talking to me.

Should of told him but I thought that was the better choice at the time since he is so sensitive.

Don't make my mistake and talk to your friend OP.

>>17554244

Fuck, thats bitch is evil. Couldn't you have went to your other friends that saw this all happening or the people she told she wanted to fuck you, and had them back your story up to your friend?

Well, I don't want to hurt my friend by telling him whats been going on. Anyway, with my subtly ignoring her and brushing her off she seems to be getting the message that I'm never going to chase her. She still likes flirting a little bit though just to fuck with me I guess.

>>17554275
He was pretty whipped. I think it would of worked out that way anyway but at least I could of told him before whatever garbage she filled his head with. He was a really good friend with a big heart but she took advantage of that.

I'd recommend talking to him if it gets worse though. Don't trust a bitch not to flip it on you.

>>17554042
Just let her go. It's not worth it. Trust me.

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My son, there is no private property in women: they are common to all. And therefore wise men knowing their frailty, are nod excited to anger against them."

Like highways, rivers, courtyards, hostelries,
Or taverns, which to all alike extend
One universal hospitality,
Is womankind; and wise men never stoop
To wrath at frailty in a sex so frail.

No man who is not insane should trust women, for they are base, fickle,
ungrateful and deceitful.
They are ungrateful and do not act as they ought to; they do not care for their
parents or brother. They are mean and immoral and do only their own will.
Though a man may be their loving, kind and tender companion for a long
time; though he may be dear to them as their own life, yet in time of distress
or misfortune they leave him. Therefore I do not confide in women.
The mind of women is like that of a monkey, going from one place to another
like the shadow of a tree. The heart of a women is unsteady like the rim of a
wheel.
Women are [sticky] like gum, are all-devouring like fire; they are clever
deceivers and impetuous like a river. They go both to the man they love and
to him they dislike just as a boat goes to both banks of a river.
They do not belong to one man or two: they are laid out like goods in the
bazaar. He who should think “they are mine” might just as well try to catch
the wind in a net.

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>>17555490
>They go both to the man they love and to him they dislike just as a boat goes to both banks of a river
so true it hurts

>>17555490
Oh my God
Beautiful

TRUST ME DO NOT FUCKING GO THERE.

Girls, ALL GIRLS, only want you when they know they can't have you or shouldn't want you! FACT.

Your friendship with your mate is 1 MILLION times more valuable, there are heaps more girls you can screw around with and plenty of time to do it but TRUE FRIENDS are very rare in life

Plus, say you did fuck her, she'll loose interest in you because then she knows she can have you, at which point, YOU WILL HAVE LOST THE GAME and will always remember that shitty thing you did. I'm not saying dont have fun fucking with her head though e.g. paying her attention in normal conversation and then acting like she doesnt exist. That shit is sooo fun

As someone who made off with a very good friend's girl, even though they were going to break up anyway, take it from me: It's not worth it.

Your friendship will be dead in the water and your feelings for the girl will be marred with guilt and insecurity (due to the circumstances of you hooking up).
You're doing the right thing be rebuffing her advances. If you're really concerned, try to have a wank before engaging with her, your desires will be lessened.

>>17554042
My brother has a thing like this with a girl. She has a bf but she's really touchy feely and grinds on him at parties and stuff. Just sleazy if you ask me, but I think it comes from some deep-seated sexual insecurity. Of course don't do anything, it won't be a naughty fling it'll be a horrible experience for everyone involved.

I'd tell the friend too, cause that's some really sad stuff, especially if she's doing it in front of other people. He's not gonna like it but honestly if you want that pimp-stud identity, the memory of having told your friend about some diva roach will do a lot more than the memory of doing anything with her (or keeping it a secret).

My friend's gf did this to me a lot in hs too. I hated him, but I never did anything with her and I have to say it feels good. I didn't tell him though, cause I wanted him to be unhappy but the gf didn't deserve the guilt.
Just jerk it to cheating porn and remember you don't need to bang for validation

>>17554042
It all comes down to attention.

She's in your circle of friends, and is likely the best looking girl out of all of them, yes?

Well guess what, she knows it and wants your attention. She wants your best friend's attention, your cousin's attention, your fucking dad's attention.

It's all about getting guys to orbit her. It's pretty immature behavior, but clearly it's working on you.

Deny the attention, and flirt with the other girls in your circle. You can get out of this by simply not participating and not making her feel entitled.

>>17554042
I'm confused why OP's friend and the girl would want to keep their relationship secretive. Perhaps it's fun for them?

I know OP's friend isn't the one asking for advice here, but he needs to learn that this isn't the kind of girl to fall in love with; at least not at this time in her life.

>>17556146
Op here. We all work together, that's the big thing. I had to pull my bros fucking teeth out to get him to admit he's dating her, let alone having feelings for her

>>17555490
Can you be my IRL father please

>>17555997
Lol, one time I spontaneously invited her out to lunch just me and her. As we were leaving the parking lot i called up everyone else to join us. She was so butthurt about it but she couldn't say anything because she knew she had no grounds to be angry

Another time she kept trying to cuddle and follow me around while I was working, I got fed up and I politely but assertively told her to go away. She ignored me and refused to make eye contact for about two days

You'd think I'd feel like a pimp but there's always a humming background feeling of regret every time I decline her. She really is a sweet girl, but definitely has flaws

>>17554042
It's a crazy bitch who loves playing mind games, avoid, do not touch with a 10 foot pole.

>>17556020
Thanks for the reassurance. I keep trying to do NoFap (for unrelated reasons) but this whole situation makes my dick relapse central.

>>17556133
Yeah, my other friend told me to just tell him about the situation, but damn it took me 6 months to get this whole secret dating thing out of him. He's super private and sensitive. I have a high suspicion that if I were to lay it all out for him, he'd either go into denial or just would otherwise take it badly

Will jack it to some cheating porn though. That's actually great advice mi familia

Something similar has been happening to me except its my cousins girlfriend. I try not to over think it but fuck is this girl touchy feely. She's a relatively nice person but I don't know. She hugs me tight quite often and I don't know if it's friendly nature or something else. We were at the beach once and she'd rest her head on my knee and rubbed my abs when I was laying down. When she was laying on her stomach she wanted me to rub her lower back. Again, one could argue its all in good nature but come the fuck on. I wouldn't be down with that shit if it were my girl

>>17556141

>It all comes down to attention.

yes

>She's in your circle of friends, and is likely the best looking girl out of all of them, yes?

YES

>Well guess what, she knows it and wants your attention. She wants your best friend's attention, your cousin's attention, your fucking dad's attention. It's all about getting guys to orbit her. It's pretty immature behavior, but clearly it's working on you.

Damn. Why do these chicks love attention so much? Is it like getting pussy to us?

>Deny the attention, and flirt with the other girls in your circle. You can get out of this by simply not participating and not making her feel entitled.

Unfortunately all the other girls in our circle have SO's or are just batshit crazy and unattractive. I really have to remind myself to not participate but my balls keep telling me to lay game on this girl. And to be honest with myself, I actually kind of like this girl despite her flaws.

I'm moving out of state in a year so it wont be problem by then. That's a whole year ahead of me though, so alot can happen

>>17557077

Back rub here? Hug there? You can argue that's all in good friendly nature. But she's obviously leaving the door open for you to enter. It would be -your- decision to escalate things, leaving her blameless for what happens. It's a win/win for her. She gets attention, back rubs, a nice set of abs to feel on if you DONT escalate. And she gets all that AND a nice good fucking if you DO escalate

I'm sure she's a sweet enough girl, and I would bet she doesn't even realize she's doing this. It's just what women do. You can't get mad at them any more than you can get mad at a shark for biting you. You can only be mad at yourself for waving your hands in front of the shark's mouth

Hey so, I have a lot of experience with this kind of thing. This is by no means exhaustive, but here's my first impression, and the one I'd carry if I were in your situation.

Flirty people enjoy flirting, even if it's innocent. I flirt with 80 year old women that I work with. That being said, the way they speak to you when their SO is around, and the way they speak to you when they're not, is indicative of where their intentions truly lie. My buddy's (ex) girlfriend and I would casually flirt, poke mean jokes at each other, etc but it was all relatively innocent. I always brushed it off, because that's the polite thing to do. A year later though I'm fucking her mouth.

Lots of girls like to get a slightly sexual rapport going with the male friends of boyfriends. Often times it's just playful, the individual and her morals bring a lot to this particular circumstance. That being said, if they're on the looser side, it's not uncommon for girls to use this rapport to fuck over their bfs in case of a particularly nasty fight or break up.

As long as you don't fuck her, you'll be fine. Because at the end of the day, your bro is WAY more important.

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>>17557160

Flirting and playfully mean jokes is okay then, right? As long as I'm not fucking her? I also want to say that I'm not doing any of the "sweet boyfriend" shit to her like he does.

>shes doing a presentation
>it ends
>she's walking back to the general seating, but there's no seats left
>me and my bro are sitting next to each other
>she's walking in our direction
>he's already standing and offers her his seat once she walks by
>she smiles, takes his seat and whispers "Bro-anon is such a gentleman~"
>I reply "I'm not a gentleman"
>she giggles
>during the next presentation we start whispering stuff to each other, she laughs and hits my shoulder, I look at my bro and he's standing there looking butthurt
>I put my hand on my knee and use my shoulders to block her off and she gets the message to leave me alone like pic related

That story doesnt pertain much to anything but I just like telling it