Is feminism really that bad? are feminists all giant raving cunts

>>17527430
Yes it's that bad.

>>17527430
"feminism" means such different things to different people that it doesn't make sense to use the word. same with "capitalism" and "socialism".

>>17527430

actual feminism about equality is based and has a lot of work to do in the third world

modern day western feminism is honestly mostly just about virtue signaling how PC and easily offended you are

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>>17527430
Modern feminists = mentally retarded

>>17527430
Depends on which form of feminism you mean:

http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript132.html

>>17527528
You're an idiot if you don't believe both genders deserve equality. Actual feminism would help men, and the people in those types of pictures are the loud minority.

Also, so what? Harassment is actually illegal in some counties/provinces/states, so they're right to be asking for it to stop.

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>>17527583
First world countries don't need feminists. I don't see these idiots fighting for female equality in Africa or the Middle East.

>>17527583
You're an idiot if you think the phenomenon of modern feminism is only being perpetuated by a "vocal minority." That "minority" largely IS modern feminism. People who just want equality don't identify with them, because for the most part men and women in modern society have equality.

>>17527594
They said we didn't need feminism when it first started, in Canada you were still allowed to legally rape your wife until 1983. Even MGM is a feminist topic... Or are you one of those nuts ok with the mutilation of children? I believe FMG was still legal in Canada less than thirty years ago.

>>17527596
You don't show peaceful protests on TV because it doesn't get views, you don't show actual feminism in memes because it doesn't support your views.

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>>17527619
Tell this to OP and his friend.

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>>17527619
Sure that was then and some equality movement was needed. Now? Not so much, all modern feminists cry about is nonsense.

>>17527627
I'm not going to bother looking at pic related, feel free to explain to me using your own words why we don't need feminism. I don't want to debate biased memes.

>>17527619
The good ol days eh

>>17527631
>I'm not gonna listen to what you have to say, so explain why I should listen to you while I have my fingers in my ears

>>17527627
>Among all internet users
>all
I don't remember taking a survey, this statistic is limited to a target sample that they did not specify, so it's pretty much irreverent anyway.

>>17527637
Posting a pic isn't saying anything. I did reply to it, though, ignored the bottom, though.
>>17527639

Go ahead and twist my words, it won't make you the "winner." All I want is an intelligent conversation on why you believe it to be useless.

Feminism is fine as long as delegates use talk and not hostility. Just remember, some upstanding white men thought it would be better to let minorities to vote and transition us into place some upstanding men thought it would be better to give women the right to vote. Granted they were creating theirs tents in certain regions, but they could have just stayed misogynistic and appeal to big money, but they chose a nation were a black female has suffrage and even a shot at what should be a single standard for combat. No one likes to admit it, but white people have evolved into a relatively more easy going race. While they are clearly not where they need to be, they are willing to learn to be accepted today instead of what the nazis wanted.

Back to women, literally everything needs to be equal in all contexts except four things and four things only. One, they must be accommodated or accomodate themselves with clothing that cover naughty bits and appropriate for place/action. Two, basic requisitions like toiletries should also supply feminine hygeine products while keeping soap and shampoo neutral. Three, handling of chemicals that are more hazardous to females. And four, you are entitled to leave from work from the third trimester to two months after birth as long as the employer and you arrange it before conception or have a union thing.

Lastly, we know you're still mad and you have right to be, but what was the pioneering feminists' dream? What did these people want, wasn't it a world where we can get past pretentiousness towards one another? Wasn't the right to vote given so women may have real power? Why don't more of them support egalitarian representatives? Its because women are still faulty emotional human beings who like to find themselves by throwing in with a group rather than a legitimate ideology.

ps. Female supremacists should go fuck themselves equally as hard as male supremacists.

Feminism is like vegetariansim-- you keep getting it brought up to you . honestly, you just wanna sit and read about ppl who cant have gluten.

>>17527430
I feel like i could be biased in this, but trying my best not to, acknowledging my biases and setting them aside.

While the gaming community does have some issues(most of it trolling or autism related.)

Feminism seems to be even worse, but not only does feminism involve its self in gaming, but all facets of life. Guys have to deal with this constant shit flinging and deconstruction of things that in the past have been almost completely man dominated, not due to sexism, but the fact women generally don't commonly enjoy those things. An example is how comic book companies are changing and creating all these SJW characters and the comics flop and only continue to be made for an agenda rather than it having a fan base and being popular.

The gamer gate issue was manipulated by SJW's to be about how misogynistic and abusive gamers are rather than how zoe quinn slept with 5 different lead publishers while cheating on her boyfriend to have her shit game pushed onto steam greenlight where other games would have been better suited. The issue had to do with how shitty feminism is in the gaming industry, and how much of a joke video game journalism is.

I don't understand the situation and how you described your friend makes her not seem that bad and didn't deserve what happened, but she was still apparently annoying enough to voice her opinion and piss off the people there enough to kick her out. But even if she didn't deserve it, again there are a ton of autistics in the gaming community who she -triggered- when it's easy for them to sperge out about women or over women.

Now i'm turning my bias back on. Women are shit, fuck off and stay away from video games. Your kind don't do them any favors.

It is all so tiring.

>>17527430
Sexy armors and Duke Nukem have been in video games since forever and almost nobody had any problems with them until recently because of feminists/leftists/sjws. And they want to change these things not for the sake of improved gameplay - which is the most important thing in games - but in the name of their own beliefs. They want games to fulfill their agenda and political views whereas they should be just a source of fun.

For fucks sake they are triggered by a bunch of pixels that doesn't affect them in any way.

>>17527430
feminism wasnt bad 50 years ago


but then they accomplished everything they wanted

It should have ended with equality

but noooooooooo! the soapbox speakers couldnt let go of their audience/cash cow so they start looking into the very smallest corners for even the smallest of shit to nitpick

look at Anita Sarkeshian. Bitch is crazy. In an industry dominated by men making shit for men, you are going to complain about female respresentation? fuck off


tldr- feminism should end cause it has no more use and is cancer now

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Yes, women are represented in an unfair way, even in an offensive way, in many forms of media. People should not be lambasted for pointing this point. The fact that you need to characterize her looks might also speak volumes. Men and woman are more similar than different and arguing over it is not only useless it's likely a legitimate distraction from things that matter. We should be united. Men & women have similar goals. We want fulfillment, we want legitimacy, we want confirmation of our worth.

Being particularly judgmental based secondary sexual characteristics seems a bit uncalled for, doesn't it? Isn't is the same argument that a tony percent of men are rapists or whatever? So a tiny percent of women actually think men are oppressing them.

The actual enemy is not each other people, we're on the same side.

>>17527528
are """"ANTI-SJWS"""" so retarded they can't understand that the girl on the left doesn't want street harassment but is criticizing the culture that says women are undesirable if they don't get hooted at?

>>17527875
>People should not be lambasted for pointing this point.
>The actual enemy is not each other people, we're on the same side.
Alright bud, now you go back in your room and play while the grown ups speak.

>>17527964
Go back to my room and play while I consider men and women fundamentally incompatible psychologically. I feel like if you got the chance to speak to a woman your opinion might change.

Do you think only women are obnoxious?

I dated a feminist for a while. Like a protesting every week, usurping the president chair of her liberal arts college feminism club feminist. She'd been given a citation for protesting rape culture topless.

She was actually really even handed about it. She often talked about how if feminists continue blaming random middle class white men for all of society's problems rather than finding common ground nobody will take feminism seriously. She saw gender politics as a double edged knife and felt that most of the problems were based around an antiquated cowboy culture where men and women are expected to live up to shitty expectations. She also gave bomb-ass head. Now I miss her, thanks a lot OP.

Point is, you got Trump republicans and you got right leaning people. You're gonna hear the less educated ones the loudest.

Feminism died and was replaced with what is essentially the trendy fedora Marxists version for people that need to feel like a part of something. Feminism its running out of reel problems and New rules have been implemented in these groups such as ,"Brown people are always right" which has essentially turned any thoughts off. For instance the, first world, where rape is among the most heinous of, crimes is a ,"rape culture", but countries where rape and wife beating is virtually legal are actaully very progressive.

Basically the new "look et me I'm a trendy little neo commie!"

>>17527430
Feminism is not about laws only but about culture and society as well.
A lot of third world countries need it and so does the first world (you can see the male reaction people have here against women, simply go to r9k)
The thing that happens is that in first world countries feminism is advancing to things that have cultural importance not as much about laws and I think it's ok to make for example: default female emoticons as well as default male emoricons for an app. You see, it is important because it talks about what is under the mind of our society. What we subconciously think affects the way we behave. These things may be stupid and shallow in the surface but they should be debated with education.

>>17527583
>the people in those types of pictures are the loud minority.
Except that loud minority is controlling the direction at large. But even at it's best it's a mostly hollow movement.

Take Emma Watson, the poster child for feminism. She says she wants to deconstruct ideas like that men have to be aggressive and "manly", but before all of that she said she would never date a british man because they are all "too shy".

I always hear about how feminism cares about male issues, but I've never actually seen it.

>>17528008
too shy as too shy in showing emotion because that is how society constructs male behaviour I.E. you cannot cry you can't show affection toward friends be it female or male you can't fail in any activity and other things


the thing is that men don't realize how bad this affects them in terms of self esteem and then end up in r9k because they don't understand it's ok to fail and it's ok to cry and have feelings and enjoy cooking cookies m8

Dude, do not care about what some bunch of manchildren say or do.

But you are still a massive fag for falling for the feminazi BS