Femanon here. 23. Never had bf. Had guys who were interested

>>17492567
pic?

>>17492567
Are you a kissless virgin then?

i give 99 percent chance youre fat or at least quite chubby

>>17492569
This. Until you post something it will be honesty very difficult to tell how superficial the problem is

>>17492572
I have kissed 2 guys
>>17492575
I am a little overweight, but I have been shedding the pounds.
>>17492569
Idk :(

>>17492578
>little overweight
ok so now you got to show us a pic

>>17492578
Do you want to lose your virginity? What do you do in your everyday life?

>>17492567
>Female
>Trouble dating
Pfffft hahahahahahahahaha

>>17492578
honestly you sound a bit like me. Although I am confident (even being overweight) that i can get girls to like me because i do it all the time when (if ever) i go out.
lately though i don't have a gf because i don't have a job. If i had money to spend on the gas and time to take her out i would definitely

so do you have a job?

>>17492589
I'll try, anon.
>>17492590
It's not that important to me, but it should be, right? I'm majoring in Computer Science right now and working somewhat well paying job for not having a degree yet.

>>17492567
You can talk to guys about anything as long as you're pretty and they're average.

>>17492591
It may seem like it's easier, but it's all dependent on the person. Male or female, they have to be desirable. Having a pussy doesn't equal god mode in dating.

>>17492599
I'm pretty shy, not open to people at first, and don't know what I need to say to them to I guess impress them. It seriously seems like some lock I just don't have the key to.

>>17492595
You're majoring in Computer Science but guys don't try to chat you up???

>>17492660
Not really. :( Do I need to talk to them first?

>>17492684
Yes

Post your picture

>>17492685
do this, op. honestly we cant really help you any further unless we know what you look like.

>>17492651
You don't need to impress people for them to like you. I think it is a huge mistake in conversation to try, because it mostly comes out as being a braggart or combative.

The easiest way to keep a conversation going is to be positive and interested. All you really have to do is just ask open ended questions and pay attention.

>>17492727
Seconded. From what you're saying the only thing I see is a problem with your style.

>>17492651
Do you have any friends? Anybody you regularly talk to?

>>17492777
A few people and then mostly family but that's about it.

>>17492834
Anybody you're attracted to among those lucky few, excluding the family?

>>17492567
Do you actually open up and hold a conversation? Or is the guy asking all the questions and starting all the conversations?

>>17492842
Not at all.I've been friendzoned more or less.
>>17492849
Yeah, he usually talks first and does most the talking.

Are you ugly?

>>17492910
If you tried hitting on them, and got friendzoned, consider them out of your league.
It's common for people to overstimate how they look, and understimate others, so don't worry, it's probably because both of you think too much of yourself and too little of the other.
Find someone less attractive, rinse, go squat (since you're overweight, you'd better hit /fit/ if you haven't yet), repeat.

>>17492968
Well id date you. you're cute. Have you considered that all the men you're after might be socially inept tards?

>>17492968
kinda 4/10 tier

sorry girl, but being an unattractive girl is a rough life ngl

>>17492978
She seems socially inept. If those guys are talking to her, at least they're trying.

you are classic style to appease any nerd they are just shy

>>17492968
honestly you look just fine. you look better than I did at your age.

you might give off an aura of being unapproachable though. do you have insecurity issues or depression or anything? I had this broody thing going on for years that kind of put people off, that's the only reason I ask. plus I was frequently lonely but found human contact draining, which contributed to the broodiness.

>>17492981
She is not a 4/10. She's just completely average which is 5/10, a 6 if she does some make up, hair, loses a bit of weight

>>17492567
i can tell you right now; your problem is you're trying to date out of your league. you go for the really good looking, ultra charismatic guys and they end up not being interested in you.

stay in your league. if you want a bf that suits you, you need to look at those average looking guys that you've never noticed before.

>>17492968
you have a pretty face. I see the problem is not the aspect :)
I recommend you to do things out of your bubble like working in a social organization or taking courses out of school.

>>17492991
You pretty much described me. I've never been diagnosed with depression.

>>17492998
yeah I didn't get a lot of dates either. I give off odd hermit-y vibes. honestly I didn't get married til I was 35 and it was to a wonderful hermit. now we are hermits together. but it took a looooong time.

talk to guys. try to make guy friends. if you sense orbiting going on, do the right thing and either make a move on him or let him drift away. but if it's just good companionship, and he's a good guy - not a dishrag, not a nice guy™ or an asshole, but just someone who is a decent human being - keep in touch with him. he might end up becoming your husband someday, or he'll introduce you to someone who will.

your mileage may vary, but it worked for me.

>>17492968
You look fine, pretty, symmetrical face, good structure.
What do you like doing?
Start doing something you enjoy and can progress at.
A social hobby.

Conversation is a skill, just practise. Do more things, become more interesting naturally.

The key to making a bond with someone, is by revealing yourself to them, little by little, at the same rate that they reveal themself to you.

Don't settle or tolerate for any shitty behaviour. If they are rude to you, unpleasant or do anything which makes you feel less self confident, just leave and find someone else.
Other than that, find someone who respects and trusts you, someone who is honest.
Be the same to them.

Exposure is the main thing. Put yourself in places where you will talk with people. The rest comes from there.

Backpacking is a good way it you have a bit of savings.

>>17493025
How does a hermit meet another hermit?

>>17493031
I like doing a lot of things that are solitary. Vidya mostly, but I like camping and being outside. I just want a guy I'm romantically involved with to do these things with.

>>17493046
the internet, duh

actually we met in yahoo chat rooms back when there were still people in them. art chat was good times.

>>17493070
Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong chatrooms, but the ones I do are "asl" "wanna Skype" "20/m/india". What chatrooms afford decent conversations?

>>17493079
now? none that I know of, the chats all got engulfed in spambots over a decade ago. every time I've gone back, it's been a wasteland.

but back in the day I used to hang out in the art rooms and the literature rooms. I worked nights so it was pretty much the only social life I had at the time.

honestly idk where you'd go now to meet nerdy hermits. IRC is about all that's left I think. or meetups.

>>17492968

You seem super cute.

Don't get down on yourself. Meeting people is hard, and that's why there have been a million romcom's and stand up comedians talking about the subject.

Just be you. I know it's cliched, but live your life and do what you want, and the pieces will fall into place.

>>17492591
Finding sex and finding a boyfriend are two completely different things. My sister's attractive and boyfriendless because she's religious and doesn't put out.

I have the same problem. 23 f as well. No friends.

I realized it's because I'm an autist socially. Not the disorder but serious social ineptness for various reasons. People want someone charismatic, someone who has adapted well socially, who makes them feel at ease and makes them laugh and seems witty. Personality just as important to men as it is women, they just don't realize it. It's subconscious. I look at pics of myself as a kid and I was a 7.5/10+ physically during some stages, but I gave off autist vibes so no one liked me or had romantic interest in me. I was ugly and undesirable because I was offputting socially.

If you want more interest from people you have to change your personality. I don't know to what degree that can be done, maybe you can find someone to help you with that. You look fine physically.

>>17492968
1) Lose weight
2) Wear shorts
3) Get approached
4) Stop wearing shorts because creepy fuckers start approaching you that you aren't interested in and you get catcalled
5)?????
6) Profit

>>17493149
Really? Because when I wear eyeliner and look like a scene slut I get approached all the time. Literally the "I have daddy issues appearance" even though I don't and get approached. When I don't, I don't get approached.

>>17493178
you may be better off doing the approaching rather than being approached

>>17493112
She isn't super cute you fucktard, that's a myspace angle if I've ever seen one. She's morbidly obese. Look at how she's pointing down her chin and there's only a small square of her face. '

OP you are fucking attention whore cancer who doesn't want help and just wants praise from random internet strangers. If you wanted legit advice you would have posted a real photo and not this facebook garbage picture

>>17493180
I went up to a random guy and asked him for coffee and he was like wtf?

I'm still in school workin on the STEM degree so I'm too busy to date right now anyways. I have literally no life though and it's sort of depressing.

>>17493178
That's because you look like a slut. They see you as a hole.

Normal relationships don't start because the woman stands around waiting to be approached. You have to be charming and fun at first sight and then lure them in (as they lure you in).

>>17493149
>>17492567
Same problem here. I had some guys interested in me, but nothing ever happened. Little to no friends because my parents were adamant in taking me to a private school, where everyone was a snobbish retard. Now I see those few friends I have get boyfriends thanks to internet while I'm stuck like this with no idea how to talk to a boy.

Physically, you look fine. Some boys tend to go to the cute girls with big eyes and child-like features - the problem here is the personality.

People like us - shy, reserved, hesitant - aren't usually considered interesting, also because we immediately give this weird "autistic" vibe off. Even being bolder and louder doesn't help, because it comes out wrong (I tried it and apparently you tried it too with little success).

At this point, I suggest you to find people with your same interests - that way you will be able to show your good virtues and personality better.

Lose some weight
Go to some event with people around
Or ask a friend to introduce you to someone
Ask them out if you don't want to wait for them to do it for you

I knew some 27yo NEET living with her parents who has a mental disorder after surviving meningitis as a child and she got a 20yo bf recently after moving out (paid for by her parents) and studying in an online college
She just had to go to some Japanese cultural event
It's that easy

>>17493242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3UxTNjfLCw

>>17493184
you sound saltier than a state fair pretzel and I don't think you know anything about facial structure either.

it's not full-on but it's not a myspace angle. she may be chubby but she is not morbidly obese. it must be hard to get by in life when you live by your self-imposed exaggerations instead of how things really are, anon.

>>17493194
yeah you can't do it like a pickup artist. you have to find something obvious to talk to him about, like the book he's reading or something, and have a conversation for 5-10 minutes. then if you click, exchange phone numbers or something. or make a point of smiling and saying hi every time you see him.

if you just walk up to someone and ask them out, it looks like you're trying to pick him up for a quickie or something, especially if you're a chick. people tend to make weird assumptions about women who do anything that even looks superficially like something a prostitute might do.

I went to a bar once with some people from karate class and I was the first one to walk in. wasn't a regular bar, it was some kind of club for veterans (sensei was a vet). bartender ignored me, and after a couple minutes some drunk told me that people there thought I was a prostitute. ended up one of the guys in the class had to order a drink for me because the damn barkeep wouldn't look at me. I was wearing a high-necked long-sleeved shirt, high-waisted jeans, engineer boots, no makeup, no jewelry, and my hair wasn't done. so I'm pretty sure it wasn't how I was dressed. all I can figure is that I was a chick who walked into an american-legion-type place unaccompanied.

also if that's what passes for hookers in that neck of the woods, I feel sorry for those fuckers.

>>17492578

Give us height and weight.

If you're chubby is it in one part of your body or equally distributed? IE. Tits, ass, belly, thighs

>>17493255
>also if that's what passes for hookers in that neck of the woods, I feel sorry for those fuckers.
by which I mean my neck of the woods, not yours OP

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>>17492968

Personally, I love thicke/chubby grillz.

Don't get me wrong, I also love fit/thin grills too.

If you're not retarded, have some iota of ambition and suck a mean cock then I'm in like sin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9rYvp4Joto

>>17493256
5'9/170. I'd say equally distributed. I didn't think I was taking a "myspace selfie"

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>>17493184

Nigger, everyone works the angles.

High heels make your ass look firmer, makeup hides your facial imperfections, lighting, angles, etc.

Guys do it too; like when they take cock pics and push down at the base to give them that extra .5-1 inch.

I always laugh when they do that.

I never trimmed my pubes until I was like 20 and I found a whole another 2 inches of cock in there; I felt bed for the girls who sucked it and got all this bush in their face.

lol

>>17493269
>5'9
>170
HMMMM I FUCKING WONDER WHY YOURE SINGLE
HMMMM
WHAT A MYSTERY WE HAVE ON OUR HANDS HERE BOYS

>>17493269

You're pretty tall for a grill.

I'm 5'11, 164 pounds.

I could make it work but there's a decent size age gap.

The largest I've done is 9 years, you would be 7-8 years.

>>17493313
Ew.

>>17493322

You say that but when I have my own car, condo and good paying job and the guys your age live with mommy; you'll sing a different tune.

Heh, sweet summer child.

>>17492600
>Having a pussy doesn't equal God mode
Except that it does. It's infinitely easier. What you don't understand is that a man of the same attractiveness will have far fewer opportunities for a relationship than his female counterpart.

>>17493114
Yeah man sounds rough being able to choose to be single since it's so easy for her to get someone should she ever have the slightest inkling. I feel so bad for her.

>>17493326
Barely anyone lives with their parents at 23, including the guys. Guys who date that much younger or who are single at 30+ are just as much of a red flag as their female peers. Signals issues with commitment, personality flaws, vanity, issues with dating an equal, sluttiness, low LTR potential. Studies show those relationships crash and burn, it's like dating a single parent or someone with a personality disorder. It's better to find an equal. An equally hot, respectable, sane, mature, non-vain young person your age who has potential. Who is in the same place as you in life. I'm not OP but I'm the same age with a hot educated 24 yo bf who's making $$$. I am too, we're a team, working together for the same shit, molding each other and growing in the same direction in the process. Can't do that with an established fuck, and there's the very real risk that he got left out of the dating pool for a legit reason.

Heh, sweet delusional wannabe sugar daddies.

>>17492567
Girl, don't leave the thread, I'm typing here.

>>17493359

Sweetie, you're 23.

You're going to fuck up until you're 29 and then freak out because you're about to hit 30 and your life isn't what you thought it would be.

And who said anything about being a sugar daddy?

I don't pay for pussy; let alone the useless skin around it. IE. Condo, car, spending money.

Haha, in your wettest dreams.

I just fuck them because it keeps me looking and feeling young.

>>17493444
Aren't you the moron who keeps going into the ask the other gender anything threads and keeps talking about his autistic relationships and the fact you have bpd/some kind of autismburgers? 'Hurr I'm 30 and look at my autistic things I've done xd'

>>17493424
>>17492567
Done typing.

You're beautiful. People can't tell regular women from pornstars.

Many people lack "mojo". That's the real deal. Ugly, amputees, paraplegic, they all can do it if they have it in them,

The good news is that it is attainable, and it only takes experience, nothing more than that.

People create emotional blocks that keep them from surrendering to the experience. You've got to let go of that. Focus on the moment, don't care what anyone else thinks or might think of you if you hook up with some nerdy ass guy or some "slutty" guy

Go get your "mojo" out there. It'll take you a couple dates, but it'll come. If you don't got started, it wont come.

Social skills are necessary, and the lack thereof is noticed from miles away, humans are social creatures. People build them up from childhood, and any traumas or bad experiences might scar one so it'll be much harder to progress socially.

Let all your scars be what they really are, mere marks. Live the present and enjoy being social.

>>17493466
>People can't tell regular women from pornstars.

Yeah I can, pornstars are actually hot and know how to fuck

I'd date you in a heartbeat, OP. Maybe it's because I like girls with slight chub, taller girls, or the shy/quiet types, but you seem great. That being said, you're on 4chan, so you might have some autistic personality flaw you just don't realize it, and maybe that's why you're having difficulties. Don't think I'm singling you out, we're all on here, so we're all subject to that.
I'll be blunt with you, though, majority of guys around your age (I'm around it, so I know for certain, because my own group of friends contains it) are at the point in life where they've been in a relationship or two and gotten fucked over by women. A lot of them have gone from the innocent, naive state of 'I'll talk to this person for weeks and see if they grow attracted to me' to 'If they don't show strong interest in the first or second time I talk to them, I'm dropping them - forcing someone to have interest in you is a waste of time and makes you open to more pain'.
If you're having issues talking to people, remember the thing I always remember - the easiest way to keep a conversation going is to make someone talk about themselves. Ask them one thing, such as hobbies, then ask them how long they've been doing it, continue saying random stuff until they say something else about themselves that you can latch onto and have them talk about. Inherently, humans are narcissistic. You might not be a narcissist by default, but everyone loves to talk about their accomplishments, and if people think you're genuinely interested in them, they'll give you more time out of their day.

But really, in short, I think you seem perfectly fine. You mentioned thinking you might seem pathetic, but I don't see why anyone would think that of you just because you're 23. You look fine and it sounds like you're actually interested in people.

I think you might, subconsciously, might be talking in a way that it seems like you're not interested in people. Haven't talked to you so I can't confirm.

>>17493473
Dude, here http://slimblondematures.tumblr.com/

Take a look at this, these are real women, hot as fuck. Mojo written all over them. That's the secret.

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>>17493490
>fat old moms
>hot

Young girls will always be superior

>>17493347
You're thinking of sex, not dating. In that case a vagina doesn't make up for terrible social skills or general awkwardness and inexperience.

>>17493932
Not him, but back when I was younger and far thirstier, I couldn't give a shit how awkward a girl was. I'd end up fawning over anyone just because she had a pussy and laughed at things that were in no way funny, all in hopes I'd get somewhere, because of how difficult it is to get in with people the normal way unless you're happy with lying about who you are and aiming to manipulate them.
You'll never see a girl do that for a guy unless he's gifted in some way. Women just have to have a working vagina to get attention, no matter what form.

>>17492567

>failing life on easy mode

hahahahahahahahahhahah this is beyond pathetic