>Got slightly drunk at a bar, >nice good looking girl

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>here's the text between us,

help me out, she's awesome I'm just tarded at flirting.

Yes I'm going to type them out.


Me: "There we go, it's anon, again had a great time, when are you up for drinks again?

Her like a solid day later at 10pm:

"Hey sorry I'm just getting back to you. I'm off tonight but I work nights the rest of the week. I'm going to Oklahoma after this week. Lets just play it by ear lol.

Me the next day when I'm on lunch at work: "Hey that's fine, I'm pretty much up for anyday of the week except Fridays because I have to be at work at 6 in the morning on Saturday, but I get off at 3 so I'll have most of the day that day. I'm off Sundays and Mondays. I can stop by, "herplaceofworkhere" to catch you before you leave. You visting family or just vacation?

Her at 4pm: "My dad and brother live in oklahoma so I'm going to see them, should be fun.

Me at 7 when I got home from work: "I hope it is, always good to see family. Flying for driving?

Nothing heard back yet.

Give up mate, that's the friend zone. I hope you didn't buy her drinks. You didnt, right?

>>17404657
You sound thirsty af

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>>17404659

No, I only buy if I invite.

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>>17404666

I actually am, I need water, so brb.

>>17404659
This, just hit her up when you're already doing something, if she ain't treating you special, don't treat her special.

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>>17404677

Basically where I'm at with it.

>>17404667
Still don't buy even then. Good that you didnt though.

>>17404672
You can tell straight away from her messages she is deflecting on making a set date etc. In comparison, you gave her your entire weekly schedule and basically said that you will see her anytime, any other plans be damned.

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>>17404654

I just fucking HATE texting/messaging. There's not emotion to it. I have to "force/fake" it. When I'm in person I'm great because I can "feel" what's going on. I'm just not someone who can fake shit and so texting just feels like math to me.

>>17404686
Gonna back this guy up, don't buy drinks.

There's nothing here, OP.

Just delete her number.

>>17404654
transition guy at best and that is a big maybe. why waste your time unless you are looking for a buddy

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>>17404694
>>17404714
>>17404700
>>17404686


When I was at the bar I didn't hit on her for flirt at ALL. I'm just extremely nice and respectful. I hate flirting so I don't do it.

Why take the effort to message ME when I gave no indication of interest? Was I just a "see if I'm pretty" bullshit thing? Do women actually do this? I hate being fucked with.

>>17404730
>Was I just a "see if I'm pretty" bullshit thing?

Possibly. Also possible she liked you, then spent more time with you then wasn't so keen. Such is the rich tapestry of life.

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>>17404657
>give her the whole fucking week schedule
>being this specific

I am autistis and I know you don't do stupid shit like that.

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>>17404737
> Also possible she liked you, then spent more time with you then wasn't so keen.

ow ;_;

>>17404654
>Got slightly drunk at a bar,
>nice good looking girl is my bartender, really sweet
>sent me a facebook msg after she got off asking to join her for drinks

"THANKS FOR THE DRINK IM ROGER ELLIOT ON FACEBOOK" ??

>>17404730
At this point, we can't possibly know what her intentions are.

That's why you delete her number. If she likes you, you'd know. There is no downside to deleting it and moving on.

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>>17404747

>I am autistis and I know you don't do stupid shit like that.

Well then you must never even meet women out in public. Looks like I'm a step ahead.

>>17404747
This. What makes you feel compelled to text your life story to her?

>>17404730
I don't know OP, I just don't like the idea of buying women drinks.

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>>17404756
>a step ahead of an autistic person
fucking kek

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>>17404765

Didn't text my life's story. Texted my free time.

She works late a night, being a bartender.
I work early mornings to evenings. Work in a car dealer as a tech.

Very conflicting schedules. Why not lay it all out there to decide when to meet? I literally see no failing in this. Which may be a problem, see I hate texting. It's fucking math and I failed math. I much prefer face to face.

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>>17404770

Isn't it better than being a step behind?

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>>17404774
Oh you naive, stupid fucker.

>mfw I used to think like that
Wait, how old are you?

>>17404765
Also:
>when are you up for drinks again?
Don't do this. Instead say "I'm going out at 10 for a beer. Let me know if you wanna join."

If she doesn't respond for an hour or whatever just delete her number.

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>>17404784

how bouts instead of insulting me you explain it. you stupid fucker.

>>17404774
m80 you gotta seal the deal.
Tell her you've told your parents about her, that the wedding is planned for December, and that you intend to have 2 kids with her.

She will literally see no failing in this.

>>17404790
Women have 10 other text conversations going on all the time. Do you want them to consult their calendar for a good time to kick it with you? Take it easy.

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>>17404788
Stop deleting numbers you cunts. Why the fuck would you do that?


>>17404790
I am really not the proper person for that. Just know to not do it for the future.

>>17404694

Whats wrong with buying drinks?

>>17404793
In conclusion, OP:

Delete her number because the only thing you can do further is embarrass her and yourself further.

Learn from this. Be like water, my friend.

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>>17404802
everything really

hopefull someone not deprived from sleep will explain, I am not feeling it right now sry

>>17404747
Haha op btfo. Tfw an autist has better interpersonal skills than you.

>>17404748
Just the truth friend, not everyone is compatible. I've met people I thought were cool, then found out they are douchebags. Some random person not liking you isn't really a problem.

>>17404802
You're not anyone's father, man, you don't have to buy a chick's attention.

>>17404802
>>17404810

Like. I can see the flaw if you just approach a random girl and offer to buy anyone a drink.

But for example - Chatting a girl up in the smoking area, ask if they want to go inside for a drink. Like, in the most simple form- Isn't filling them with drink and taking them home the goal?

>>17404802
As other anon said, everything. Makes you look desperate, and girls that aren't actually interested will pretend to be to get free drinks. The only girls I've ever bought drinks for have been actual friends, or current girlfriends.

>>17404802
Nothing. It's just basement dwelling mongoloids.
They only buy drinks for women who sign a contract to fuck them after the purchase of said drinks.
Most normal people don't have a problem buying the rounds once in a while when drinking with someone.

>>17404800
You delete her number because you're basically dead to her. It's not up to you.

You could lift and become a Chad player and see her in six months a whole new man, but fuck that noise. You just swerve that shit, OP. I believe in you.

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>>17404826

I think a lot of it is macho "I'm not doing shit for bitches attention." Then again I like being forwardly nice to people. Which apparently is wrong. So be mean.

>>17404826
>Like, in the most simple form- Isn't filling them with drink and taking them home the goal?

They can pay for their own. May as well just pay for a hooker if that's what you're going to do.

>>17404838
No, it's simply so that if someone is spending time with you, it's because they like you/want to fuck, not because you are a source of free drinks. It's simple common sense. Know the saying "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?". This way you aren't wasting time and money on girls who just aren't I to you.

>>17404838
There is being nice and there's being a doormat.

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>>17404835

I'm not "chad" or muscle roid guy. I am 6'5 240, have always worked outside in yard work, on the docks, cars, etc. Did boxing/wrestling/TKD for 8+ years. I can pick up 300-400 lbs dead weight off the floor.

>>17404840
>>17404832

I'm not on about buying a full bottle of something to impress a girl. Fuck that. But If im dancing with a girl on the dance floor and shes showing signs of wanting to go further. Isn't it just easier buying 2 shitty house vodkas and spending an extra £3 than looking cheap as fuck?

>>17404834
>>17404838

Dunno. I don't think its that much of a big deal buying someone a drink. Typically I only do this when its near the end of the night and I've found someone who looks keen on me. But an extra £3-4 isnt going to break the bank

>>17404847
It's on principle. You don't owe anyone anything. If girls think you're cheap for not offering strangers spontaneous gifts in return for nothing this really isn't a behavior you should allow to continue.

>>17404843

How many drinks are you thinking of buying here? I might be going to different sorts of bars, but finding a girl on the dance floor and kissing for a bit doesn't really involve much standing around drinking

Maybe 1 or 2 drinks in total before going home

>>17404667
thanks for that one

>>17404847
>Isn't it just easier buying 2 shitty house vodkas and spending an extra £3 than looking cheap as fuck?

That's up to you I suppose. I never did, and never had problems getting laid/getting a girlfriend. I'm no supermodel either.

>>17404847
>Typically I only do this when its near the end of the night and I've found someone who looks keen on me. But an extra £3-4 isnt going to break the bank

Sounds like buying sex tbqh

>>17404847
Exactly. I'm not saying go out buy her 50$ of booze and food unless you're seriously dating then it's different. But if you meet a girl, get a date that YOU invited her two, buy the bitch a drink or two. Be nice.

"hey I invited you but pay for your own shit." How do you spell that out without coming off douchey?

>>17404845
Okay, but you suck at talking to women. Even if you managed to turn this around by learning how to and getting good at it, you should still ignore her out of self-respect.

You must go with the flow at all times.

>>17404855
Thinking of buying zero.

>>17404861
An invite is just that, an invite, an expression of interest of spending time together, she can accept or not. If a male friend of yours invites you for bro lunch do you expect him to pick up the tab?

>>17404875

Going out with your bro is not the same as going out with a woman for romantic interest.

Now I've hung out with girls who were just friends and no I don't buy their shit.

Friend and romantic relationships have different rule sets.

>>17404879
Gonna call bullshit on that, man.

>>17404884

on what?

>>17404860

To be fair, why would anyone else be in a club past 2am if they weren't looking to get laid? If spending a couple of extra pounds gets her back to mine faster I think its a decent investment?

>>17404861
I'm not really well aware of what to do when you go out on a formal date and who pays. Typically I think I'd naturally offer to pay.

Just got out of a 3 year relationship and we normally just ordered in or went to the same sorta restaurants. I'd normally always pay since I had cash on me more often or not , but she'd then randomly buy food or random gifts. In the relationship I didn't care about spending money on my girl , came as second nature really since she wasn't a golddigger.

>>17404865
I think I'd rather just come across as a laidback guy and order 2 drinks than look at the girl I'm trying with and being like "what? You want a drink go get one."

>>17404886
On romantic encounters requiring you to offer things but platonic ones not.

>>17404888
>I think I'd rather just come across as a laidback guy and order 2 drinks than look at the girl I'm trying with and being like "what? You want a drink go get one."

Yep

Are you guys just really cheap with money or am I just overly generous?

>>17404888
>To be fair, why would anyone else be in a club past 2am if they weren't looking to get laid? If spending a couple of extra pounds gets her back to mine faster I think its a decent investment

I think it would be a while lot easier to say "I'm gonna leave now, do you wanna come?".

>>17404893

Platonic offerings, help move, help bbq for the game, help with car, help with other shit.

Romantic, all of the same shit, when you invite them for a night out, pay for it. If you're looking to build a connection. If you can't afford to do so, be honest.

>>17404896
It has nothing to do with the money. I'd shout my friends hundreds in shots in a night sometimes if I'd just done a cash job and was loaded. I just hate paying for people's affections. If someone likes me they like me, I'm not going to pay someone in drinks to pretend.

>>17404896

95% of this is just macho bullshit.

Other 5% is just following the 95% because they've never actually had the opportunity.

When I go out with women, I throw out all the macho shit immediately.

>>17404875
wtf is wrong with you tight ass cunts ?

I have no problem shouting a friend lunch.

If I have friends who don't reciprocate then I generally dont call them friends because who the fuck wants to be around a shekel hoarding jew.

>>17404904

I'm honestly starting to question if buying a girl a drink is beta. . .

Just so we're all clear, the pickup line " Can i buy you a drink" is lame and people will use you for your money. But it just saves time rather than waiting for 2 barmens attention and looking cheap, I'd happily buy 2 of my drinks and carry on the conversation when waiting.

>>17404902
I don't see it as buying their attention if they're already interested.

So, you're at the movies with a date would you buy a small popcorn just for yourself or would you shell out another £2 to buy a one you can share?

>>17404910
That's the thing, if you're in a long term thing, feel free to buy each other shit. Don't buy shit for a chick you met 10 minutes ago, makes no sense, it's giving people gifts they have done nothing to deserve.

>>17404911

I don't like walking up going "hey can I spend money on you?"

If you're going to walk up to someone. simple shit. "Hi, I'm asshole, just wanted to come say hello, are you alone? do you have children? live alone? what times do you come here? are you single? you live alone?

Then if she responds in kind and not say "I'm not interested," follow up with asking to sit down next to her and if she'll allow you to buy her next round. Done. Simple. In the door. Talk to her and be nice.

lets say 3rd date. "hey! that movie is out, wanna go see it?"

Sure! ;D

Pay. for. her. fucking. shit.

If you can't afford it, say it. "Hey, i'd like to go see this movie with you, but I can't really afford to take us both right now."

>>17404657

>Lets just play it by ear lol

That was your cue to stop making plans, say see you round and maybe hit her up in a couple of weeks time.

>>17404919
You sound like an easy person to take advantage of

>>17404925

Not at all, you can be forwardly nice to people without being gullible.

>>17404936
Inb4 AF/BB

>>17404911
>So, you're at the movies with a date would you buy a small popcorn just for yourself or would you shell out another £2 to buy a one you can share?

A date is not some random slut at the club. You already know she likes you for you. How can you not understand the distinction.

>>17404845
If you are 650 roughly and only have a 3-4 pl8 deadlift you probably aren't in as good as shape or look as good as you think you do. Should probably absorb more advice and information from people rather than arguing.

>>17404845
Sorry I mashed together 6'5 and 250 roughly, my bad.