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To what extent should a girl change herself to be likeable or

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To what extent should a girl change herself to be likeable or dateable?
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Wear makeup and dress well. Lose weight.
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>>17309016
Being brutally honest here.

Unless the girl is morbidly obese, she's likeable/dateable.

You can not name one trait a guy wouldn't be put off by. You'll find a guy who's into you if you just put yourself out there even a little. There's nothing you should have to change about yourself.
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>>17309018
>>17309017
What about personality?
I am vain about my looks, because i don't think anything else in me could be liked by anyone.
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>>17309016

Being confident about yourself and be yourself. Never change yourself for a guy.
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>>17309029
Is it possible to be such a massive cunt that nobody likes you?
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>>17309038
Yes. But you should still be able to find a guy who will pretend otherwise so he can fuck you.
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>>17309021
>What about personality?
Guys only care about your look.
Just keep yourself pretty and stop bitching the man.

that's literally just 2 things to do
>Be pretty
>Don't be a annoying bitch
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>>17309041
Tell me more about second one.

>>17309040
That's...
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>>17309038
After being forced to watch a couple melissa McCarthy films, I suppose the answer is no, there's always people that'll like you whoever you are.
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>>17309021
Don't assume you know what other guys like or don't like about you. I like girls who are a little weird, shy, and awkward. Some guys like the opposite. Don't pretend to be anyone, just be yourself. And keep looking, you won't know if there are guys who like your personality until you try.
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>>17309016
You can't prescribe change to somebody if you don't know what they're currently like.

So what are you like and whats your problem
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Every guy likes different traits in girls. Most of them treat girls as their projects. Unless you're a really nasty bitch, good looks should open all the doors for you.
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>>17309070
>>17309082
Thanks, so i need to chill?

>>17309077
I am bad at picking social cues and retarded in socialising.
Like your typical male anon.
Nice dubs.
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>>17309052
>Tell me more about second one.
>On car, don't tell the man how to drive
>Don't tell a man about which politics he should follow
>Boost a man ego
>If you know something and he don't, don't rub it in his face telling "The answer is XXX, why din't u even know that?"
>Instead try something like giving a hint "Could the answer be XXX?"

Men are basically grown up children.
praise them when they did a good job, comfort them when they fucked up, buy them some toy, feed them well
And all men shall be yours

[spoiler]Basically be a mom. KEK[/spoiler]
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>>17309016
To whatever extent is necessary.
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>>17309092
>Like your typical male anon.
That's girlish, and it's cute if you're a female.
Have the looks, and don't be a cunt.
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>>17309093
Oh, so i've been doing it all wrong the whole time.

Thanks, anon.
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>>17309093
This, soooooo much.
As much as they hate to admit, men want a mom who takes care of them. You're doing good if they don't even notice and they think they're on top.
(girls aren't too much different though, they are attracted to fatherly traits)
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>>17309092
>I am bad at picking social cues and retarded in socialising.
Shouldn't matter for women. You must be super ugly.
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>>17309114
>they are attracted to fatherly traits)
except for niggeress because they have no father KEK
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>>17309102
What if i don't like when people point that out even if it is cute? (Which it isn't mostly).
I want to be strong, independent and confident. Intimidating even. Looking up how to learn to growl.
It doesn't help that i am short with big head and small limbs, how do i accept that it's nothing wrong with being laughable and use my appearance?
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>>17309122
They are too, they just don't know how to relate to men to achieve a successful relationship with them.
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>>17309145
>Looking up how to learn to growl.
Are you by chance 10 years old and/or severely autistic?
Seriously, fucking growling at a person is not going to intimidate them, much less make them attracted to you. You're going to look like an asspie weirdo.
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>>17309147
gee anon, do jokes fly over your head all the time?
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>>17309145
>What if i don't like when people point that out even if it is cute?
Then change, but not for men, for yourself.
There's nothing wrong with improving traits you find lacking.

>I want to be strong, independent and confident. Intimidating even.
That's the way you'll scare away men. As the other anon said, men want a mom. Someone caring, understanding, supportive. What men utterly hate at home is conflict of any kind. They get more than enough of that from society and at work. Intimidation is a sign of potential conflict.
Being strong, confident and independent are positive traits though, just do it in a motherly and wifey way. If something bothers you, talk about it. Don't play mind games, don't be passive aggressive, know your limits, and push them further.

>It doesn't help that i am short with big head and small limbs
Girlish and cute. Nothing wrong with it. Don't try to intimidate people, be wiser then them and earn their respect.

> how do i accept that it's nothing wrong with being laughable and use my appearance?
Why do you think you're laughable, if your appearance is attractive?
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>>17309154
Slept 3 hours, sorry. I got it after posting the autistic response.
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>>17309153
Oops, I meant music growling and singing along to angry death metal songs. Bad english.
It doesn't sound like an okay coping mechanism to you?
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>>17309167
So, i do have to change considerable amount of my personality to be likeable.
Geez, i don't know if it actually is a psychological issue.
Shit, i have a male behaviour pattern.

I may be more caring towards one person, but generally i hate being looked down upon more than anything else.
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>>17309190
>Shit, i have a male behaviour pattern
What is your personality and behavior like?

Do you even look like a girl?

>i hate being looked down upon more than anything else.
There is not a thing wrong with that. Being valued for what we do is a basic social need for everyone. What you need to recognize is that being a woman and acting like one is valuable, and people can and will value it. Just don't confuse girlish and grown up (!) woman behavior.
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>>17309016
Real talk. Your only job as a women is to look pretty (or at least well kept) and not be a bitch. You can be as boring as cardboard so long as you both enjoy each others company and are easy on the eyes.
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>>17309018
speak for yourself nigger, if I found out a girl cuts herself all attraction is lost i'm not dealing with that kinda shit

same thing with an eating disorder, if you barf after every meal i'm not dealing with that crap. i'm trying to be a good boyfriend not a mental health expert
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>>17309217
My looks are ironically girlish, if i was flat and tall i'd think of becoming trans. However, it is very shitly looked at in my country and is not a solution, wouldn't do it anyway. But you get the point.
I was never naturally girlish, because i haven't had any girl friends till i was 16 and for some reason wasn't born with it. Maybe have stronger bond with dad than mom, it could contribute.

So how do i take calmly when other people state their superiority over me? Do I laugh inside that they'll never know the truth and be proudly condescending?
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>>17309220
>if I found out a girl cuts herself all attraction is lost i'm not dealing with that kinda shit
>If I
>I
>i'm trying to be a good boyfriend not a mental health expert
>I'm
>i

The world don't revolve around you, moron.
These girls you dislike are still gonna find a bf despite you liking them or not. you little faggot
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>>17309226
yeah they're gunna find someone desperate like you
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>>17309225
>So how do i take calmly when other people state their superiority over me?
The adult way to do that even if you're a guy is not to state facts and not picking a fight. Life is not about being No1. People who always want to be that at everything are usually laughed at behind their backs and will never have a good life. Be good at something, and have people respect you for that. Others will be good at something else and at that area they will be authoritative.
The manly way to solve this problem is to be territorial. Stick to something you're really good at, and be the authority there. Others will stick to theirs. If they infringe on yours, defend yourself. If you're good at what you're doing and people respect you, you will have the means to do it.
The womanly way to do this is to recognize you have inherent value of being a mother and a good wife. That's a valuable job that society needs just like any other, and be an authority there. Don't laugh inside. Just be classy, and tell them that you're a girl and it's not nice what they're doing.
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>>17309246
Thank you anon, i can't change the inevitable.
It'd be very emotionally hard to start addressing my gender in conversations.
I always feel it's somewhat unfair argument.
And, yes, i am surprisingly bad with babysitting, other girls either flatout hate or love kids, while i do it and act very unnatural.
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>>17309251
Practice, and you'll be good at it. Just don't be judgemental. Of yourself and of the situation.
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