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Before you post a question, check here to see if it's already been answered
Keep your questions short for more answers.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:

>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>Is my body part big/small enough?
>Am I short/tall enough?
>Would you date a virgin?
><random insecurity>
Some do, some don't. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practicing and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever. It takes hard work, time, and effort.

>I like someone. What do I do?
Ask them out.

>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out. This is something that cannot be explained. You either have learned to intuit this or you have not. If you have not, the only way to learn is experience--there are no shortcuts. So it comes back to: Just ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online. Don't complain that this isn't helpful; stupid questions deserve answers like this.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. Stop overthinking it.
Alternative answer: we don't fucking know.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't fucking know. No amount of your walls of text will fix that.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing

>Someone has made it abundantly clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>

>Brandon, that one guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships and fart guy
Fuck off
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Girls: If a guy has a crush on you, you are not really attracted to him, and he suddenly has cancer, would you have sex with him?
I don't have cancer or anything, just wondering.
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>>17174969
uhm, no. why would i?
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>>17174969
I don't pity-fuck people, so no.
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guys: would you ever be ok with your gf sexting with random strangers on the internet as a form of "interactive porn" or is that cheating in your books?
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>>17174969
>If a guy has a crush on you, you are not really attracted to him, and he suddenly has cancer, would you have sex with him?
I don't have cancer or anything, just wondering.
Quality Bait 10/10
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>>17174980
it's cheating, I wouldn't be okay with it
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>>17174980
It's cheating
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>>17174969
Lol. No. I don't have a public duty to provide men with sex for any reason.

Had a guy visiting a city I was visiting message me on tinder and beg me for sex because he has hemophilia.
I thought he was bullshitting me and I kept asking questions until I confirmed he wasn't lying. I have enough self respect not to do that.
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>>17174986
>>17174992
why is it cheating? because it's a real person responding? would you be ok with her reading erotic stories?
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Girls: why do you tell guys about celebrities you want to fuck?
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>>17174997
to get the convo to sex. it should be flirty but it's awkward and clumsy
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>>17174996
yes, because there's another person involved in something sexual. I wouldn't do anything like that while I have a girlfriend so I'd expect her to keep all sexuality within the relationship as well.
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>>17175001
makes sense. thanks anon!
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Reposting this since the old thread is dying.

24yo male with 4yo daughter. How do I approach this with new girls I meet? Just tell them straight up that I'm a dad?

Would prefer not to date single moms for reasons.
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>>17175001
one last question: what about stuff that's not between two people, like posting pics on /b/ or so? does it still apply?
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>>17174994
Haha that's insane.
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*repost cause other ones dead*

dated a girl i met a year ago til 2 months ago. found out she physically cheated on me w/ a childhood friend from back home 4 times.

shit's complicated and feels unresolved but obviously I threw them out of my life and moved on. i've been with five women in the past months since. seeing one of them on a consistent basis.

shit still fucking sucks tho. still hurting. i don't think i can be with anyone for a while so i'm just resorting to fucking women i hook up with which i'm realizing is getting kinda lonely and sad in itself.

back home from college, my place in that friend circle has disappeared for other reasons b/c of this. i'm alone.

the times that i have seen them, i feel like i'm just a giant elephant in the room.

they all still hang with him. they're all having fun. i know it's none of their business but i really don't feel comfortable with the fact that things are still so casual and whatever with him.

i'm at a point where i'm even considering getting back with this person out of loneliness and when i remember the tight/loving relationship we had.

she hasn't been with anybody else. claims she loves me, always has, and her soul mate (lol). claims she was hurt, vulnerable, confused and wasted each time.

i don't know where i'm going with this or what to do...

>what are people's experience with cheating ex's??
>anyone take a cheating ex back???
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>>17174997
I've never talked about celebrities, but I did mention to an ex what I like because I really didn't like him physically or want to be with him.

Second reason I can think of is because men are always loony in their horny worlds and sex is a separate element to them. We know you'll look at another girl on the street or fap to anal when you get home or maybe even send nudes to some rando, so we stop caring about having filters too and carelessly blurb out our other desires too.
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>>17175007
Yes, pretty much.
It's a big part of your life and it's a dealbreaker for most girls. You should tell them early so they can decide if they want to keep dating before getting attached to you.
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>>17175008
I forgot to reply that I think that reading erotic stories would be okay on my book. I guess it's different for every person. As for the other thing I guess I wouldn't be all that mad and it wouldn't make me want to break up instantly, but it would worry me and make me think I'm not good enough for her. The whole involving other people in your sexual stuff would bother me in general, I mean it's okay when you are single of course, or if you somehow both agree that your relationship should be "open" like that right when your relationship starts. I mean if you talk about it soon after you realize you are bf-gf.
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Why isn't the cuckquean fetish as popular as the cuckold one?

In fact, you'd think it'd be more popular.
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>>17175033
Not sure.
Why do you think it should be more popular?
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>>17175039
Guys being cheated on
vs.
Guys cheating on their girlfriends, and having their girlfriends enjoy it
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>>17175048
Men like the irregular and dark idea of being used instead of the regular idea of being the user?

Not sure.

Don't think women would watch it, it makes no sense physiologically.
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girls

why are you bad at sucking dick so much?
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>>17175061
You mean like Mad Men? Where the wives stay at home and the guys fuck every girl they meet. My mom loves that show.
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>>17175063
Same reason most guys really suck at licking pussy - no one taught us.
It's not like you can learn any way other than practicing and having someone telling you how to do it properly.
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>>17175068
gee I sure wonder which is more intuitive
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>>17175065
I don't know, dude.
I'm a chick and I run the complete opposite alley.
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>>17175063
Because we don't fantasize about sucking dick, we fantasize about it being inside. Sucking your dick was your idea.
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>>17175072
I give myself orgasms since I was 14, pretty sure that pleasing a girl is not rocket science.
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>>17174999
That makes sense.
>>17175019
Then whh get mad at me when I call you beautiful and make you feel like you're the only girl I have any interest in?
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Girls: why do girls find people like the kardashians inspiring. They blithering idiots.
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>>17175085
I don't know about your woman, but I don't get mad. Maybe because she feels you don't mean it but you're just saying it because you have to or you know your gonna get horny later?
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>>17175085
Okay, hold up.
If you say something like "you are the most beautiful woman in the world," that's objectively not true and feels like a white lie. I think sometimes we feel we don't deserve to get complimented.
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>>17174980
Cheating, if the guy is okay with it he's a cuck.
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>>17175094
I personally don't even like them, but they're attractive, rich and successful so of course some people like them.
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I have a crush on this girl I know from high school. We used to be pretty close and I have her number but we haven't talked in almost a year. Should I text her? What should I say?
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>>17175094
I personally don't find them inspiring, and I don't know anyone who does. Those who view them as inspiring I would imagine it's about literally doing nothing and being famous. Kind of what the vast majority of Disney movies taught us. We just got to be pretty, and everything will work out okay.

Also, fuck Kylie and her shit lip products. Patchy and broken ass wands.
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>>17174980
Do girls actually do this? I thought mostly (like 99.9%) guys enjoyed sexting internet strangers. Not saying it's wrong or anything, just surprised, I thought it was a guy thing.
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This is for a certain group of guys. The ones that are triggered whenever a girl disagrees or 'disrespects' them on here.

For example, I've seen girls tell guys here that they don't want to be hit on while they're working, to be met with something like "you should be grateful I even want to talk to you, you bitch! You're working in retail, it's not like you have anything going for you anyway. With your attitude, you're going to be alone forever, which isn't surprising because you're unlovable and any guy who gets with you is going to cheat on you because you're a fucking worthless whore" etc.

My question is: does saying stuff like this actually make you feel better? If not, why do you do it? You just look like an unstable maniac.
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>>17175094
I've never watched it but I don't see why I should either. Kim Kardashian is too fat, and her husband is the ugliest face I have ever seen. It wouldn't be on television if it didn't make a lot of money, I guess.
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Guys or girls

Would you date someone who vapes? Not on anything like weed, not smoking cigs, not a cloud chasing arrogant asshole. Just vaping and occasional drinking.
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>>17175142
nah they're insecure as fuck tbqh

damage control basically
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>>17175147
As a guy I wouldn't date a girl who vapes, I personally think it's disgusting. As for the occasional drinking I couldn't care less unless it's an actual problem.
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>>17175142
I'm pretty sure most guys don't fucking do this. Those that do are just entitled assholes.
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>>17175147
Guy
No
I have lung problems and even tho i can handle it people smoking constantly around me kills me
For vaping dunno, its still a stupid habbit but id give her a shot i guess
Drinking? If its a bit yeah if she loves to get drunk then never

I don't smoke anything or drink alcohol so yeah
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Everyone,
Anonymous 05/23/16(Mon)20:40:18 No.17174686â–¶

I feel I should not worry much about this, but I still need to share this with you guys

A friend of mine talked me about this other girl, that's going to move in our city soon, as if "I'll introduce you to her". We were talking about my sentimental life and how I needed to met new girls and how the locals were all very boring and she said "Oh, you'll love this friend of mine then" She showed me a picture of her and I honestly fell in love a little, that girl was everything I dreamed on. My friend continued "This girl is into guys in the hardcore punk scene, but I think you can pull this off. If you make her laugh, she will love ya..."

I'm concerned I will not be able to attract this girl, based more on her expected "preference" on guys rather than on what I got. And it's riddiculous because I'm not exactly bad at anything. I'm good looking, and a lot of people even go as far as to say i'm really charming. But I'm nothing like those guys. I dress clean, well fitted clothes. Think black jeans, white tee, sunglasses and long dark hair combed back. No tattoos, no piercings. Not that i'm against them, it's just my preference not to have any.

This girl has lots of tattoos and piercings. And I might not have them looks, but I do have my own tricks, I just need to be confident in myself.
Yet I'm a little concerned, thinking I already lost because of that whole thing of "she prefers them like X"

Talk me out on this, I need to stop worrying about this and just be confident on myself
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>>17175148
That's what I thought, but it just makes me wonder what they're trying to accomplish from it. Perhaps trying to lower the girl's self esteem to their own level?

>>17175163
I know most guys don't, that's why I addressed it to that certain group. I wouldn't call them entitled assholes though, I'm more inclined to believe they lack self esteem and this is their way of 'getting their own back' over women they see has having threatened them.
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>>17175175
Guy here

I think of it like this
If you turn to insults you lost the argument
If someone says oh virgin or slut or shut up bitch then you know they lost and are backed in the corner so hard but are unable to form a single intelligent sentence
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How exactly do women experience unrequited love? Can you give real life situations as examples?
>inb4 beta omg go back to r9k women are people too same as guys
Just answer my question, thanks in advance.
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>>17175124
its only a year, why not?

you have her number
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>>17175189
Should I just say something like "we haven't talked in awhile, how have you been."
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>>17175063
1. this is an assumption about women
2. young girls don't have much experience
3. when you've grown up, ask a proper question
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>>17174969
LOL

>>17174980
This is worse than camwhoring on /soc/.

>>17175081
You're supposed to be a cumslut.

>>17175147
No.
I'm a penis.
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>>17175185
I've been in a relationship with my boyfriend for most of my adult life, but when I experienced "unrequited love" (even if love is a big word) it was mostly hanging out with a guy, liking each other but wanting different things (he wanted casual things, I wanted to be committed). Once or twice I made a move on a guy/told him I liked him and he didn't like me back, but I tend to develop feelings over time so it rarely happen.
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>was playing vidya while waiting for relative
>big ass, who I have a crush on, came to talk to me
>always admires my hair
>don't drop any spaghetti
>don't hit on her either
Fuck! Another missed opportunity...

She is so nice and pretty.
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Real talk, Femanons, how much romantic shit would a guy have to do for you to break up with your boyfriend?

Like, say he brought you flowers each time he saw you and he made you special gifts for your birthday. What if he even wrote a song for you to show how much you mean to him?

Let's say you already like the guy, but are worried that it wouldn't work out and you'd lose him.

Is there an amount of lovey-dovey shit that would make you melt?

Because that's what I've done. I write music and tinker with electronics.

I made her a music box for her birthday that plays "Zelda's Lullaby" because Ocarina of Time is her favorite game.

I wrote her a song (instrumental, I can't sing for shit) and she said she loved it.

She still is with her shitty boyfriend who lives on the other end of the country though.

I'm not going to stop with the romance, so that's not an option. I'm just curious if this is something that would make a girl swoon and eventually see me as worth the risk.
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>>17175018
>each time.

Dude but my take on this...

Once.... maybe.. that really might by an accident, and it might be something that never happens again.

But 4 times. That is not an accident. At that point it's intentional and it will very probably happen again.

>Guys
>Would you date someone who vapes?

Sure? But I smoke hookah and cigars on occasion (though no cigarettes, that shit tastes like ass).

>>17175185
>How exactly do women experience unrequited love? Can you give real life situations as examples?

Guy but I guess I've heard/seen it a few times:
My girlfriend had a friend she used to have a major crush on. One day she finally got the courage to ask him if he wanted to try for something, and he turned her down with a let's just be friends. It took her like half a year to get over him and be able to go back to being just a friend, and the way she rationalized it was, basically an, "ok he just doesn't see me that way" (and that shit all blew up a couple years later when she met me and we were dating and he flip flopped and started desperation texting her about how much an idiot he was. She wasn't impressed at all and was actually kind of mad at him)

I've also had a few girls who were kind of obsessed with me over the years. One in particular is a family friend and she'd always follow me around, try to start conversations, try to impress me, try to get me to go out with her, etc. But I'd never touch her because i've got almost a decade on her and literally knew her before she was born. She's a sweet girl, but my one hope is while she's of at school she gets her brains banged out and moves on (she's going to one of the biggest party schools in the country)
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Does love exist?
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>>17175147

woops, missed the link on that one >>17175288
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>>17175285
I'm not the most romantic person on earth for sure, but this kind of shit is cringey.
If I love someone, he doesn't need to be amazing to keep me interested in him and I'd do anything to be with him. If I don't love someone, no amount of lovey dovey bullshit will ever make me change my mind.
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>>17175297

Well when you put it like that, I feel like a dipshit.

But she said she's never had anyone do romantic gestures for her, so I figured I'd try and be the first.
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Well, once again, I spent the evening watching movies, and just chatting with the girl I got a crush on. We had fun, but towards the end of the evening, she started talking about trans-sexuals, and how many trans friends she has, which caused a sudden, and strange shift in me. I feel like an asshole for this, but I gotta admit, I no longer really like her that much. My interest in her had already taken a hit when she revealed that she is a bi-sexual (by stating that she has had both boy and girlfriends, and she is only 19).
Seeing how different our views are, I no longer think that we could really get along that well in the long run. I see trans-sexualism as a mental illness, and the whole gender fixing surgery bs as just enabling that delusional illness instead of helping, so on that subject, we would have clashed eventually.
The above, combined with her other, rather left leaning views, conflict with my views rather heavily, but at the same time, we get along so god damn well, and when we hang around, we have such a good time together (at least I think so), so I again, don't really know what I should do.

I still really like her (conflicting emotions, yay), but at the same time, I am not sure. I am no longer as sad about her moving away, nor do I really want to tell her that I like her (but sorta still do).
Also, later that evening I heard her talk about her ex with another girl, and about relationships in general. She mentioned that she would like to have a relationship again. It wasn't like I was spying on her, she knew I was in the same room.

Should I just try to look past the differing views and keep spending time with her, or should I just try to forget her. I mean, she is moving away from the apartment complex anyways, so I won't be seeing her as often soon.
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>>17175298
Maybe there are some girls out there who like that, but to me it's useless.
If I truly like someone, he'll always be worth the risk. That's just it.
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>>17175285
No amount of romanticism from one of my orbiters would convince me to leave my boyfriend. If I break up with someone, I do it because I don't think things are working; I don't do it out of belief I have a better option.
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>>17175319

Thank you for that. Weirdly enough, that makes me feel better. I'd hate to be a rebound, but I have feeling I'm setting myself up to be one.
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>>17175319
Why do you keep orbiters if you have a bf?
I never understood that
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>>17175324
Not that anon but lifeboats are better than jumping into the ocean.
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>>17175285
I hate romantic shit
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>>17175324
I don't "keep" them, per say. They just sort of appear.
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>>17175324
>>17175329
Do most girls actually have a kind of list like this?
What about most guys?

I'm a dude and i just fall for people, i never have any backups or secondaries, it's just HER and then every other girl in the world.
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>>17175341
Do they just stay there and act all creepy and wait for the day you pick them?

Can you mistake a genuine friend who is uninterested in you as a gf etc?

>>17175329
But that's awful to use people
Do people really need approval or attention from randoms so much?
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Some history

> Was in a relationship
> Things were going bad
> broke up
> NC for about 3 months
> ex contacts me after
> I think she's just kind of trying to hurt me, says shit like "I feel nothing for you anymore" but still talks to me for some reason
> Get upset, things go sour again
> NC again for a few months
> Talk again over the holidays
> Things are actually going really well
> She's texting me all the time, sending me pictures, we're joking around and having fun, she's sending me shit like her favorite love poems
> Feelings for her start coming back
> Suddenly she gets really cold
> I try to keep up conversations with her on the weekends but she barely responds
> Get upset with her again
> NC for a few months again
> Send her an email laying everything out about how I feel, basically saying that either we admit we still have feelings or we close the book on romance between us forever
> She chooses the latter
> Alright
> NC for a long time
> Months later, wish her happy holidays, but she never responds
> whatever, stop trying
> NC basically goes on for a year
> Suddenly out of nowhere she sends me random message on skype and adds me there again
> I ask her about it, she claims it was an accident and that her skype just added me out of nowhere and she just didn't bother to remove me

Looking back, if I had to guess, I'd say the earlier behavior was because she began having feelings for me again as well but she really didn't want to get back together. Just not sure what to make of the recent bullshit. Maybe she just wants to talk again. But why bother, after so long? Would you message her?
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>>17175344
I don't have a list. I have male friends, and I'm not going to presume they want something more just because they're male and they talk to me. I'm fairly certain most girls are the same, don't believe everything you read here about women.
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>>17175352
I'd move on, honestly. You're getting dragged through the dirt and nothing good is coming of it. You said it yourself, why bother?
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>>17175359
You don't have male friends, you have a penis army.
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>>17175378
If that's what you want to call them, okay. I call them friends.
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>>17175008
If you have to ask if it's cheating, it means you know it's unethical. Even assuming it isn't cheating, it doesn't mean you get a free pass.

>>17175285
>I'm not going to stop with the romance, so that's not an option.
Retard. If she wanted to be with you she'd be with you instead of him. If she's going to dump him because you wrote her a song how long do you think she'd be faithful anyways?
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>>17175370

If I thought she was just intentionally fucking with me, I wouldn't bother, but she never seemed that devious (or, to be frank, intelligent enough) to pull that off

And I always did hate how things ended between us, it would be nice to be able to chat every once in a while as opposed to never talking at all and just feeling hurt about it
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Hi girls,
Would you date someone you know used to like you from school times (say when you both 17 - 19 old)?

I'm aware everyone's gonna have different opinions, just want to hear from different people. A girl I knew from way back when got back in touch from me and I'm worried she just wanted a free confidence boost.
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Does no contact work? (After getting dumped avoiding all forms of reaching out to your ex, texting calling social media etc.)

After a girl dumps a guy who she still has feelings for, does she miss him and want to get back together if he disappears from her life completely? I figure it's only going to make things worse if I reach out to her, think that it will make me look attached.

She messaged me last night and I made a joke and she said "Lmao I don't think I'm ready to talk yet but that was funny."
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>>17175147
Girl
No. I don't smoke or drink, so a girl who also vapes and drinks would be more likely okay with it.
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>>17175852
During no contact she also messaged me saying that she misses me and our life together.
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>>17175815
Guy here

There was this girl who had a crush on me in elementary school who contacted me a few years ago and she totally wants the D. Was actually thinking about making a move but she just recently got a bf.
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>>17175292
Ye
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How do I make her more attached to me than I am to her?
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>>17175859
That's kind of different though. Still, I do suspect attractions from younger days can form pretty strong memories. I thought I didn't care about her anymore, but apparently I still do on some level.
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>>17175878
You can't unless you want to date severely under your class.
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Would you date someone who endorses making America great again?
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>>17175928
I already am
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Guys & Girls: What is the best time to text a girl?
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>>17174964
Guys and Girls: waddup
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Ladies: would a guy being a police officer make him more attractive?
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>>17176211
My specific cop fantasy conflicts with my irrational fear of them IRL, so I'm not sure
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>>17176211
not at all
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Last night I got a message from a girl in /soc/.
We hit it off really well, we turned out to be very similar and she was super pretty AND complimenting the fuck out of me.

She added me on linkedin and gave me her phone number as well.

She said at some point in the convo "dont hesitate to call if you need to rant".

This was last night, she didn't text or anything today. I sent her a picture of a landscape an hour ago, but no reply.


When is it ok to call? I told myself I wouldn't be freaking out about this, because its 4chan and she lives 9 hours away, but I am... so help please.
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girls, if i cannot flirt that does that make me lose value to you?
trying to figure out if i should practice or just say fuck it
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>>17176397

The best flirts come from a place of fuck it.

Flirting is saying shit that are the ones where they're exaggerations of the truth where you don't know if it's something serious, or a joke, given with half a wink.

Just stop giving a fuck and do things just to do them, without any premeditation or cares for the end result, purely for the instant effect and to keep the mood up. Because that's what flirting is about, being in the moment.
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Just broke up with my girlfriend because she kept talking about wanting marriage, and I knew for a fact that I didn't want to marry her so didn't want to waste her time. Now I feel like a dick even though I think I did the right thing.

What do?
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>>17175308
someone pls
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>>17175308
>>17176446

First of all... She's 19... She's still getting her shit together. Trust me...

Second of all, Do you really want her romantically or just as a friend? You know the answer to that already...

If you hold it in, later down the line, you'll wonder how things would have gone if you told her how you felt. Plus, there's no major harm in expressing your interest in her. The two of you just have to be mature enough to handle the aftermath.
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>>17176443
Nothing, you were right, assuming you weren't a total cunt about it beyond what was necessary.
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>>17176473
I am 23 myself and far less experienced in the regard this shit.
I really like her and would like to be more than just friends. I have never felt this way towards anyone before.
I guess that I should just tell her that I like her.
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>>17176420
i know and apparently thats what ive been doing but not on purpose, and now that i want to let a girl know i am interested in her i cant do it, i always come out as friendly
me and my friend met a french girl a week ago and we both talked to her but our body language was so different, and thats when i noticed that he was flirting while i was trying to do the same and coming out as a friendly guy
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>>17176483

You're thinking with your dick.

You don't actually like her - in fact it's pretty clear you'd normally find her unbearable. You just want to fuck her.

The solution?

1. Fuck her, see that ti's not all that amazing or anything, and move on
2. Realize that you will feel this way about better women and then move on
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>>17176489
What?

I don't find her unbearable at all. I really enjoy her company and spending time with her. She is fun to be around and we get along very well. I have never had this sort of feelings towards anyone before.
And I don't just want to get into her pants. Truth to be told, I am not that sexual person anyways. I'd like to hug and cuddle with her far more.
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>>17176522

> I'd like to hug and cuddle with her far more

This is what every dude who's intimidated by his own sexual desire says. It's remarkably transparent. Anyone over the age of 21 is going to see right through it and think you're ridiculous.

> I really enjoy her company and spending time with her

No you don't. You said yourself, you had a major shift in your feelings towards her when she began babbling on about some petty political issue. That doesn't happen if you really like someone.

You want to fuck her. Just admit it to yourself, there's nothing wrong with it.
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>>17176568
I have no sexual experiences, so I can't really argue about this subject. All I know is that I long much more for just closeness like hugs and cuddling, than just sexual release.

>No you don't.
Yes, I do.
You don't know me, nor can you claim to know what I feel. These last few months have been the happiest I have had in a long while, because of her friendship. After sleeping on the matter, I feel that the differences we have in political opinions in regards to some subjects, are in the end, rather pointless, and not really worth making a big fuss about.
I still like her, and enjoy her company tremendously, even if her views differ with mine on some matters.

Again, I don't just want to get into her pants. That is a rather low priority for me. I am far more interested in just spending time with her, because I really like her, and her company makes me extremely happy. No other person has made me feel like this ever before.
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>>17175815
Sure, why not?

>>17175852
Why would a girl dump a guy she still has feelings for?

>>17175878
You don't.

>>17175928
I'm not American

>>17176174
What a stupid question

>>17176211
Nah, not really

>>17176380
>When is it ok to call?
When you need to rant, like she told you. Duh.

>>17176397
If you can't flirt, I'd assume you weren't interested

>>17176443
Nothing?
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>>17176665
>If you can't flirt, I'd assume you weren't interested
What if the guy in question is a sperglord?
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>>17176749
That doesn't really change what I said.
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Hey girls. Tell me about your sexual fantasies. I want to know:

1. How often you have them

2. What time of day you usually have them

3. The scenarios you typically imagine

4. Who you fantasize about.

Thanks in advance ladies.
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>>17176771
Why not? The two categories "guys who can't flirt" and "guys who aren't interested" don't overlap perfectly (eg socially awkward guys) so why assume that the first must be in the second?
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>>17176788
If you're not flirting with me, I assume you're not interested. This isn't a difficult concept. I'm not a mind reader, I don't know that you're interested if you don't show it. The reasons for your inability to flirt have nothing to do with me either.
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Men: If you were put in a lady's body for a day, what would you do?

Ladies: If you were put in a man's body for a day, what would you do?
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>>17176796
>This isn't a difficult concept.
It's difficult for me because it's not logical: it's as difficult as accepting a statement like "all yellow fruits are poisonous" when some fruits are yellow but not poisonous.
Irrational statements require explanations.

>I'm not a mind reader, I don't know that you're interested if you don't show it.
Do you think your opinion would be different if you were male? Or would you (/do you) expect the girl to show interest before making any moves?
ie do you use flirting as a sort of test to gauge interest before taking action, or just do it for fun? Or both maybe?
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>>17176839
>Men: If you were put in a lady's body for a day, what would you do?
My normal daily activities. Assuming my clothes fit.
Would think about skipping workout since wrong body, but prolly go anyway.
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>>17176847
Don't expect a girl to understand male perspective.
Their brains can't comprehend it.
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>>17176847
But it's not illogical. Flirting is a sign of interest, if you're not flirting, then it's logical to assume you're not interested.
>Do you think your opinion would be different if you were male?
No, because like I just said, flirting is how people show they're interested in each other.
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>>17176847

Dude... it's NOT a difficult a concept. YOU are the one who is being irrational.

The social norm is: If a guy is not flirting, it's because they're not interested.

Using your own example, the logic would be:
95% of yellow fruits are poisonous, so would I assume otherwise when by default, they are?

What you need to remember is that both groups do not exist in equal parts, and you are in the minority to the extent it's considered fringe (inb4 someone tries to use 4chan as an evidence otherwise--because in case you haven't noticed, these boards tend to be a concentrated collection of that exact fringe).

Don't cry about a girl assuming you're a normally functioning individual, at that point if you're that upset, that's your fault and not hers.

>Men: If you were put in a lady's body for a day, what would you do?

Play with boobs, masturbate, martial arts to see how different my balance is, proceed as normal.
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>>17176787
>1. How often you have them
Like, elaborate ones? IDK, maybe once every few days

>2. What time of day you usually have them
When going to bed

>3. The scenarios you typically imagine
Depends on the person I'm fantasizing about

>4. Who you fantasize about.
Usually some character from a movie/game etc. Sometimes someone I know, but usually not.
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I have a few questions. One for guys, the other for girls but I guess anyone can answer it.

First one: This girl ive been dating recently has been spending the night with me lately. Yesterday when I came back from picking up dinner for us, i caught her wearing my shirts, and sniffing my clothes and pillows. What do I make of this?

Second, while we're laying together spooning I tend to get hard and end up moving away from her or putting a pillow in between us, which makes her upset. What do I to fix this?
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>>17176913
Dude, she wants your dick. How much more blatant could she get?
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My new girlfriend made love with me using a strapon the other night and I really liked it a lot. She was in a lesbian relationship for years so she knows how to do it really well. How can I reconcile my masculinity with feeling so comfortable and right taking a sexually submissive role with my girlfriend?
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>>17176899
>>17176901
I guess we approach these things differently. I don't really run with single assumptions, i tend to keep every permutation in mind above a low threshold. From:
>Alice is not flirting
I'd have 5 possibilities in mind:
>Alice isn't interested
>Alice is shy
>Alice doesn't know how to flirt
>I have misinterpreted Alice's behavior and she actually is flirting (or trying to)
>Alice is flirting in a way I have not picked up yet (or trying to)

I guess most people prefer to roll with a single conclusion much more often though. Just looking at these two: >>17176796 and >>17176901 both assumed i must be socially handicapped since i asked this question. Again nowhere near my personal "almost certainty" threshold.

About how high are all of yours? I'd say mine is probably around >99% (4 sigma).
ie how likely does an outcome have to be to consider it the default? Just over 50%?

>>17176899
>flirting is how people show they're interested in each other
Curious about this since i've seen people in this thread (femanons only, i think) saying they flirt just for fun, and they're not necessarily interested in going any further than that.
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>>17176839
>Men: If you were put in a lady's body for a day, what would you do?
Rob a bank and bury the money somewhere my real body could retrieve them without being seen.
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>>17176948
>Curious about this since i've seen people in this thread (femanons only, i think) saying they flirt just for fun, and they're not necessarily interested in going any further than that.
Even assuming they're genuinely not interested in the guy, just because flirting is how people show each other they're interested, this doesn't mean this is the only function of flirting. Flirting on the odd occasion could be misinterpreted as interest when it's not, but who the fuck assumes that someone is interested when they don't flirt?
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>>17176936
It's not wrong to be the submissive one once in a while, or even every time. Remember: if it's with a girl and a guy it's not gay.
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>>17176913
Do not move/put a pillow.
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I say go for it and ask her on a date. It's perfectly normal for couples to have some differing opinions. I would be careful about admitting your thoughts on trans people though since it could be a deal breaker for her.
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>>17176635 ^ meant to reply to this post
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>met on Tinder
>been talking for maybe two weeks and seeing her tomorrow at my house for the whole day
>supposed to watch a series she loves, and talk

How do these first tinder dates usually go? How do first dates like this go for you people?
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>>17176665
>Sure, why not?
Thanks for the reply. I'm really worried about fugging this up.
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>>17177002
>>17177004
It's not like I think that trans people are some hellbound abominations or shit like that. I just don't see encouraging people to chop up their body as being an healthy way of treating their condition.
And, I guess I am a bit grossed out by them, or at least by the idea of them. I know one trans person, and she/he (I got no friggin clue which one s/he is) is an okay person, but I am still sorta weirded out by the whole deal.

But yeah, I didn't really intend to start preaching my opinions on her. Especially when ultimately, if people want to chop themselves up in order to feel like their appropriate gender, it is their choice, that doesn't affect me one bit. It is still weird to me, but a lot of things are weird to me.
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>>17177012
If it makes you feel any better, there's no reason this could go any worse than it could with any other girl.
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>>17176635

Are you the guy who went on the trip to the museum with a girl, then she went a bit cold, then you flew off the handle and made a million posts about it even though people were giving you perfectly good advice?

Because if it is you, I really think you need to just chill out and stop overanalysing things with this girl.
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>>17176948
Hello me

Everybody on earth shares a simple radio station while i hear white noise

That's how i perceive flirting and body language
People often think im interested when i see them as friends and i cant tell if a girl is interested is she doesn't tell me directly

It isnt fun
Also 5 possibilities is too low
Do you have branching paths for each one and have to calculate your moves and outcomes to fuck up as little as possible?

>>17176968
A girl i met asked me if it would be a bother if she tagged along when i went out, then i asked her if she wanted to come to my place to watch something, next week i asked her if ahe wants to make a marathon and sleep over and she did and we cuddled in bed
Now after that it took a week for her to tell me she likes me and all that time she had no idea if i liked her as i treat everyone the same

Fun isn't it?
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>>17177056
>A girl i met asked me if it would be a bother if she tagged along when i went out, then i asked her if she wanted to come to my place to watch something, next week i asked her if ahe wants to make a marathon and sleep over and she did and we cuddled in bed
>Now after that it took a week for her to tell me she likes me and all that time she had no idea if i liked her as i treat everyone the same
If only I had this kind of luck with my crush
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>>17177049
Well, I'm no great shakes at girls to begin with.
That said, I think there are a few key differences.

First, like I said earlier in >>17175903, I really can't think straight regarding her, which is possibly due to old memories running deep. So I'm worried that she doesn't like me. I had a major crush on her previously, but she shot me down hard. I actually found her kind of arrogant and annoying to be around whenever I met her (at friends' suggestions) periodically over the years. However, she approached me recently and seems to have changed a bit.

Secondly, I'm worried that I'm chasing an ideal of her, and not her as she is today. The idea of "making good" on my shitty teenage love life, basically.
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>>17177052
>Are you the guy who went on the trip to the museum with a girl
Yes.

Had she remained cold I wouldn't be posting anything here.
But last week, she suddenly started spending time with me again, despite previously acting like I was just air.
It confused the fuck out of me, but because I like her, I was more than happy to spend time with her again.
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>>17177056

If it's any consolation, I'm female and I'm exactly the same. If anybody approaches me and speaks to me, I always assume they're just being nice and slip into this weird "try to make them laugh" mode. I can't flirt for shit, I get insanely nervous if anybody tries to make a move on me and I actually realise.

So even though I'm a female and I should have it on easy mode, I don't because I'm a total sperglord.
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I keep asking this girl what she'd just said. She has a very soft, gentle voice that's barely audible, and whenever there's a lot of noise like a train passing by she just continues like anyone would hear. Even without distractions I barely hear her most of the time.

Think it's going to be a point of annoyance sooner or later?
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>>17177068
>Think it's going to be a point of annoyance sooner or later?
Definitely.
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>>17177061
Well dunno whats worse she was my only relationship and she fucked up too much
But I've got so used to having a person next to me when i sleep or being able to hold someone i can't sleep anymore, i feel like utter crap because i dobt know how to meet shut ins or introverted girls and i dont know
Im lost as fuck now

Also i did hurt a lot of girls because im an unreadable dense idiot when it comes to all of that
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>>17177071
Hi me
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Hey girls.

When should you say I love you?

I've been with my (first) girlfriend for 3 months and I'm really feeling it. I want to say it, but I know it's a big thing for some people. Scaring her off would be really painful, obviously. Have you ever been with somebody that said I love you too soon? What generally happens? What should I do?

Thanks!
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>>17177070
Think telling her about it would help? I've mentioned it once before, at least.
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>>17177075
No, probably not. Chances are she's not doing it deliberately so it's not something she can really help

>>17177074
Do you think she feels the same way?
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>>17177079
I don't know, maybe?

She really likes being around me, we have great sex and laugh a lot when we're together. We do argue, but it's constructive and we grow from it. We don't have the same argument twice. She also does things like texting me emoji hearts at 3AM or telling me randomly how much she wants to be with me when she can't.

She also repeatedly said that 'it's great with me', as a general statement.

It sounds good, but I don't know.
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>>17177066
Yep
Pretty much

I have the same problem, if the point hits me right in my face I'll start feeling really awkward and the whole uncertainty makes ny head hurt, but from it i got a benchmark of sorts. I cant relax in general, never could but if i like a girl on a mental level and i can relax next to her im pretty much in love

Anyway thank you, knowing im not the only spaghetti tosser out there is some consolation

>>17177074
Interdasted

Also why do people make such issues out of when you say it?
I said it when i felt like saying it
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Girls: I've heard that girth is more important than length. Is this true to an extent, or does it not really matter?
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>>17177087
>Anyway thank you, knowing im not the only spaghetti tosser out there is some consolation
You're far from being the only one
I think most people are
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>>17177090
Both are important; one without the other isn't desirable. A 3 inch long dick with 6 inch girth is just as bad as a 8 inch dick with 4 inch girth.
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>>17177098
Try to take time to make/do something that would show your involvement in the relationship. Something he could look at and feel like you really love him. Do you have any skills or favorite crafts?
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>>17177094
I know but not to my extent, well i drop spaghetti but im as good as blind when talking to people

Sad thing is i can notice signals and intentions if im a 3rd party but never if im in the group
For people who want to learn this crap try reading some psychology books it helps in understanding a bit, if you have a really good social butterfly friend tag along and just try to see whats happening and why
It sounds stupid but girls swarm my friend and he actually explained things when we were playing basketball or whatever
Stuff like oh how do you know when x,y,z


Now a question
If a guy just makes you laugh and is honest and all of that, hangs out with you talks a lot to you and doesn't make a move how do girls see it?
I mean I got a lot of female friends and i treat them like friends but people often get the wrong idea as i treat everyone the same
I get it tgst opposite sex friendships are a difficult concept to some but its not impossible
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>>17177098
As someone who's girlfriend sometimes exhibits this behaviour: Just be there for him. Usually this stuff only lasts a couple days.

If he stays this depressed for an extended period of time, maybe consider getting treatment/therapy.
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>>17177109
>If a guy just makes you laugh and is honest and all of that, hangs out with you talks a lot to you and doesn't make a move how do girls see it?
If someone doesn't make a move or flirt, I'll assume they think of me as friends.
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>>17177112

I'm usually the one who worries about not being good enough or him losing interest, so it's really surreal that I'm finally settled and happy and now he is worrying! I've known him for years and seen him in other relationships and I've never known him be like this. I really hope it's not me who is causing it.

I'll give him a huge hug when I see him next and try to speak to him about his concerns. Thanks anon.
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>>17177113
What would you consider flirting in that case?
And thanks but a lot of people see it like this
Being nice to a girl? You want to bone her
Hanging out with a girl? Beta orbiter or something like that

Also if you liked them would you consider making the first move because you dont know as he never flirts?
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>>17177062
Anyway I think I am overthinking things.

I came on a bit too strong when she reconnected with me, which scared her a bit. I think what we need is to go light and easy and feel one another out.
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>>17177124
I have a couple of male friends that don't like me at all, and we often talk and hang out together.

>What would you consider flirting in that case?
Compliments, touching, going out of their way to be alone with me, texting me every single day, always texting first, trying hard to keep conversation going, making conversation sexual, etc.

>Also if you liked them would you consider making the first move because you dont know as he never flirts?
Depends on how much I liked them.
If I just found them attractive but I didn't have a crush on them, I wouldn't risk to make friendship awkward by flirting with them. But if I was really crazy about them, crushing super badly and all, I'd make the first move without problems.
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Guys, can you find women of different body types attractive, even if you've not really been with many women with that body type?

It's a bit hard to explain. I'm in decent shape but I have a massive boobs. I'd say they're probably the kind of size that guys who have a fetish for big boobs would go for. I'm very fortunate because they still look good for their size.

My boyfriend has never been a boob guy as far as I know. He seems to love them but I always worry that maybe they're kind of a turn off because they're not just normal sized?

So...can you change your preference or overlook something if it's a particularly good example of that thing?
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>>17177138
Relax, everybody loves boobs. Big boobs that look good are very rare too. So be grateful and chill.
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>>17177138
My boyfriend's a boob man, I'm pear shaped, he finds me plenty attractive.
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>>17176936
Well masculinity is a sliding scale. Sliding back a little doesn't mean you're a complete poof.
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>>17177136
>Compliments
Check
>touching
I can't touch her like I'd want to (ok, I know it sound creepy) but check
>going out of their way to be alone with me
Check
>texting me every single day
Is that really a good idea ? I'm scared that it is too much and annoy her even if I'd really like too
>always texting first
Check
>trying hard to keep conversation going
Same as texting everyday, I don't want to annoy her
>making conversation sexual
This can't happen at all, she is muslim
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>>17176174
7:46 pm eastern standard time
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>>17177138
I can only speak for myself, but I'd say yes.

Been with two women of almost entirely different body types (pear shaped and hourglass shaped respectively) and I found both of them to be very attractive in their own way.
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>>17176211
an attractive cop is already attractive

just being a cop doesn't make you anymore attractive
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>>17177144
Heh, all kinds of flirting is appreciated as long as I like the guy.
If the guy I like texts me every day and tries hard to keep the conversation going, I'm happy.
If some dude I don't like does it, I'm pissed.
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>>17177151
What do you mean by "I like the guy" ? As a friend or crushing on him ?
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>>17177151
I'm screencapping this and reporting to /r9k/, dirty roastie.
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>>17177136
Seems about right yeah
No idea why people assume im in some girls i dont do those


Oh i got another one
Whats the difference between compliments and being honest?
Like a girl saying shes too fat and you tell her shes skinny or that she looks great in general
But you make them casually and you mean it as is no subtext involved

>>17177138
If i like a girl for who she is she can be from flat and skinny, average to chubby and busty

If its proportional and looks good enough its okay
And if i didnt like something and i like a girl on every other level I'll ignore it
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>>17177151
Why not just tell the guy you dont like?
Thats why i can never tell if im being annoying so i just dont talk to people

Even talking as friends is just too much because of that
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>>17174964

What's the fart guy story?
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>>17177152
>What do you mean by "I like the guy" ? As a friend or crushing on him ?
Crushing on him.

>>17177154
Just a dirty roastie wants attentions by guys she likes, you're right.

>>17177156
>Why not just tell the guy you dont like?
Because if he doesn't make it obvious by saying "I like you", I feel awkward saying "I don't like you".
I try to make it clear by dropping conversation, never texting first, never complimenting back, saying I don't want to hang out, and not flirting back in general.
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So 3 or so months ago I was kinda sorta having a thing with this girl. Long story short, I asked her to be my gf after we went out a couple dozen times, and she gave me some vague shit about liking me more than a friend romantically but not as a boyfriend. I got pretty pissed, broke off with the everyday contact, spent 2 or 3 weeks feeling sorry for myself, then got over it, and we message each other once or twice a week. However, now she's been messaging me stuff like "thanks for being awesome" and "you're a great dudr" out of the blue, sometimes past midnight. Also, the other day when I met her, she seemed a little more flirty and a lot less anxious about me being near her. She wants to take me out too, with her first paycheck. Does any of this mean anything? Is she just feeling bad about me taking her out so many times?
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>>17177164
Huh
But most girls dont text first anyway?
I know my friends dont because they get spammed by 20 guys each day and they do forget or just dont feel like searching through the junk and they often drop conversations too, after you get bombarded by spam you lose it or just give up or go do something else


I didnt hear from a friend in months, i se t her a message and she went hoe i yave to come and pick her up so we xab go hang out and shit a d then she stopped responding until i spam her to bump it up and we went out and all of that but see i know that one my whole life but how do i know if we're friends if we met recently?
Kinda the same like my shy ex she never wanted to message me so sge doesn't seem creepy or needy or clingy and i never messaged her because i think im annoying and i can talk too much about the things i like


I mean do girls srsly get so much shit on every app?
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>>17177155
>Whats the difference between compliments and being honest?
If there's no reason for the compliments.
For example "Oh I'm fat" or "Oh I'm ugly" is pretty much fishing for compliments and 3/4 of the guys will reply to that with a compliment.
If someone says "You're really cute today"/"Your eyes are beautiful" out of the blue, I think he might be interested in me.
Usually not something that makes me go from thinking "we're friends" to thinking "he's about to propose", but it makes me wonder if he might be interested.
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At what age is it acceptable to kill myself? 25? 30?
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How do I stop being such a gigantic pussy?

Ironically hugging a bear seems less dangerous than talking to any girl out there though, or its just me.

But still, I am a pussy and I know this, but how do I know you girls won't scream rape out of the blue or suddenly kick my balls for no logical reason or some other shit?

How did you other dudes conquer your fears and stopped being a pussy and started being a man instead?

tl;dr afraid of everything and death, but want a relationship and extremely obviously sex as well
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>>17177191
You must be 30 or older to ride on this ride.

There is honestly a pretty long list of requirements, you should really just look it up.
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>>17177193

Only suffering will buy what you want.

And with suffering I mean actually going out there and taking the chance and the psychological burden.

After some tries, it will become an habit and you won't feel suffering anymore.

I'm exactly in your situation, but I know that this is how it works. I still have to start doing something though.
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>>17177198
And if I really do get framed as a rapist and become spitroast for two nignogs, who should I blame and hate? Me or the succubus?
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>>17177187
Oh great
You've been helpful, have a nice day
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Would you guys ever date a legit tall girl?

Like pic related.
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>>17177209
I don't see why not?
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>>17177195
Have a good source? Unfortunately googling suicide requirements only returns hotline numbers and information on becoming a suicide counselor.
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>>17177176
If I care about someone or I like someone, I text them first without problems.
I have 3-4 people I talk to every day - my best friend, a female friend, a male friend, the guy I am seeing - and if I don't hear from them, I text first without problems. I want to hear how their day was, or make plans to hang out, or really just talk to them.

Even if I got spammed a bit when I was trying to meet new people and date (not by 20 new guys each day, lol), people I care about have my number and I talk to them through WhatsApp. No amount of spam would make me forget about someone I care about.
Truth is that if they don't want to go through the "spam" to talk to you, you're "spam" yourself.
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>>17177204

you should blame yourself.

>>17177209
never
I don't like tall girls
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Fuck everyone who thinks people need drugs and cigs and alcohol as a social lubricant!
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>>17177056
>Do you have branching paths for each one and have to calculate your moves and outcomes to fuck up as little as possible?
Yup.

>>17177071
>Also i did hurt a lot of girls because im an unreadable dense idiot when it comes to all of that
I really worry about this sometimes. As far as i know nobody's ever been attracted to me, but i guess the truth is that i have no idea. There have been questionable situations. Probably a few too many. It's just really hard to figure out sometimes whether it's attraction or kindness/pity. I just assume it's always kindness since i'd feel like a creepy bastard making the opposite mistake, but i hope nobody's hurt.
>>17177064
I hope things work out for you, museum guy.
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>>17177209
Im 6'4 and yeah i got no issues with it
But i do prefer shorter girls, makes them more cute

>>17177214
Well it's not always true but yeah i get it

A few female friends give me shit when i dont talk to them or text again if they don't reply
Work, school, stuff and people forget so i was wondering is it really that often
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Guys, does a girl texting first make you think that she likes you? From what I've seen it's guys that usually have to text first so surely if a girl does it it'd make you think "shit she actually likes me"?
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To the girls
from the relationships you've been in, which tends works better?
>Dating someone new
>Dating someone who has been a friend beforehand
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>>17177144
>she is Muslim

Buddy you're not gonna get to touch, kiss, or do anything with her unless you marry her. The fuck you getting your hopes up for?
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>>17177240
Yeah my gay friend told me when she talked to a girl we were out with and a friend who got dressed up and was touching me and she was being weird all day long even thi i told her to come over so we can play shit, she was getting closer and closer to me leaning in and yeah i didnt get it

Really the girls who just say it out loud deserve praise because these games dont work
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>>17177244
Depends.
I'd go with "someone new".
If I I've been friends for long with someone, it means there was a reason why I wasn't into him at first and he might just be a "consolation prize". Relationships never work out when you settle for something you don't really want. Plus you miss all the exciting part of getting to know each other, which is the best, at the beginning of a relationship.
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>>17177243
Depends on the situation, but in general, yes. Unless we're pretty good friends and text on a somewhat regular basis anyways.
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>>17177256
This is one reason guys find girls so confusing sometimes. Some say they have to be friends first with someone before dating them, but others say they don't usually date guys they become friends with.

Is it just personal preference for some girls to be one way or the other or is there some other explanation?
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>>17177243
Yes, but then you'll just think you're overthinking. Sure it might indicate something, but that's not enough in itself.
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>>17177261
Personal preference
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>>17177151
>and tries hard to keep the conversation going
How to do this?
I literally have no idea since i never learned how to have a normal conversation with a normal person (only friends with other sperg burglars as a kid) and spent the last 5+ years not speaking at all.
But now people (ie a lot of girls) want to talk to me and they all expect me to keep the conversation going and show interest in them and i don't know how.
eg in a conversation yesterday:
>Come on, ask me something, Anon! Please ask me a question, anything!
But i don't know any good questions.

How to keep conversations going? What do girls like to be asked?
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>>17177247
>Buddy you're not gonna get to touch, kiss, or do anything with her unless you marry her. The fuck you getting your hopes up for?
I know we would kiss and touch each other
But nothing sexual

She is a great girl, that's all I want. Sex will come when the time is right.
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>>17177261
It's bullshit.

Girls that keep "guy" friends as potential partners end up stringing them along. It makes literally no sense to keep a pool of men to pick from whenever they are single. For the guys at least.

No one meets someone they like and think "well gee golly we gotta be friends first." If you want to be with a girl don't dick around HOPING she will send you a signal so you will finally get the chance to ask her out.

It just never happens. You need to make your intentions extremely clear if you want to be with someone You will know within a few days of simply meeting someone if you find their personality and physical appearance attractive and would want a relationship with them. It's incredibly stupid to be friends with a girl hoping one day it'll be something more.
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>>17177282
You sound like a great guy. Though unless you're Muslim her parents won't agree to your relationship so good luck.
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>>17177261
It is surely a personal preference, but it also might have something to do with the definition of "friends". I have a lot of acquaintances, but maybe 4 people I call friends. These are people who have my complete trust, that have been by my side through every bad day of the last few years, that love me truly and care about me. I wouldn't date them.
Even if I would never date a guy who is a friend, a guy needs to be an acquaintance for me to date them. Before dating someone, I want to know something about their personality, about their interests, or about their plans for life. I don't even get interested in someone if I don't know these things.
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>>17175033
I was listening to something interesting about this. Apparently it's becuase when guys watch a girl dominated by multiple men they feel competition and jealousy which turns them on.
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>>17177156
>Thats why i can never tell if im being annoying so i just dont talk to people
Same here. I was annoying as a kid and i basically make up for it now by not talking to anyone.
But it makes me wonder if anyone out there thinks i'm not talking to them because i don't like them.

I wish people would just be direct and tell me what to do.
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>>17177292
>You sound like a great guy.
Thanks
>Though unless you're Muslim her parents won't agree to your relationship so good luck.
I don't care about that, for now at least
Right now, our friendship is doomed to end, since she will probably go back to her home country after our studies
What I want is spend the remaining year close to her
If we can get together and make our relationship continue, I will be the happiest man
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Guys what makes you continue crushing on a girl you've never even been out with after months of not seeing her in person?
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>>17177361

Not having any other options at that moment in time due to social awkwardness or just pure lack of a social life.
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>gf comes from a VERY small town
>She's a senior in HS, graduating class of like 13 kids to give you an idea how small (today's her last day btw)
>Only has one "real friend"
>Friend has failed road test 6 times, can't get drivers license, uses gf for rides all the time
>Friend doesn't have a job, asks gf to buy her something when shopping together
>Friend, worst of all, has no bf and seeks to ruin our relationship out of jealousy
>Friend treats me like shit, I kill her with kindness

I've talked to my girlfriend about how her friend treats me and she said she's talked to her about it but that she's stubborn anyways and won't change. But I'm fairly certain this girl is just using my girlfriend, how do I show her this?

Apparently he parents and sister have tried telling her this before but she looks the other way because she doesn't have much other options for friends
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I forget how to make a move. Several girls who are in my circle of friends clearly were hitting on me, but I didn't do anything and now it's too late.

Went on a date last weekend. As far as dates go, it was really good. But I forgot how to progress things. I have no problem talking to women, but after my senior year of college, I forgot how to flirt/get frisky.

What can I do? How can I relearn how to go in for a kiss, or progress things towards a bed?
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>>17177361
I guess I'm in that situation right now. Didn't see a girl for months but it still happened. First time in a while, thought i was too old for that shit.
Don't know what keeps it going to be honest. Maybe it's the sheer distance between her and other girls: smarter, prettier, like her personality, closer interests, etc. Maybe the fact that it's mental, not physical: she seems like she'd make a great friend regardless of gender. So when i think every once in a while that i might want to just randomly call up and talk to someone, her name's the only one that comes up.

And meeting other girls makes it stronger too. Like any heuristic algorithm, seeing more candidates just reinforces the strength of the match. Was talking to this other girl yesterday and the whole time i was wishing it was her sitting there instead.

I suppose I have a question too: what makes girls stop crushing on guys?
I'm pretty sure none of my childhood crushes actually stopped either, just faded away, and they'd probably come right back with a vengeance if i ran into the girl again and she was the same as i'd imagined her.
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>>17177412
Male here btw. Seems to me that your gf will just have to learn the hard way, ie something needs to happen and she will realise it.
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>>17177425
I feel the same way about the guy. I promised myself I wouldn't put people on pedestals but it happened. It feels like if we were together, our relationship would be different from the majority of relationships in that we'd be like best friends AND a couple. We'd be able to talk shit to each other and joke about and have fun but also be romantic together. I've noticed a lot of couples are just bf/gf and don't really enjoy each other's presence apart from the sex + honeymoon phase which wears off.

>what makes girls stop crushing on guys?
For me, it's if I find out something about a guy that turns me off. Like if he's a horrible person or druggie or something. I don't just lose interest, ever. If I really like a guy when another one comes along I feel nothing for the new one even if he's more attractive. Like my retarded brain goes "THIS is who you like now, and you ain't getting rid of this crush ever"

But maybe for a lot of girls it's if they find someone better in some sort of way, or if you don't make a move they get tired. Not sure though, because when my guy didn't make a move for months I didn't move on, I just became sad and desperate until I had to do something lel

>I'm pretty sure none of my childhood crushes actually stopped either, just faded away, and they'd probably come right back with a vengeance if i ran into the girl again and she was the same as i'd imagined her.
Shit, same here. It's happened before.

Anyway good luck with your girl anon
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>>17177412
been through something similar to your girlfriend's side myself

if you sit her down and calmly explain to her that her friend is a mooching jerk, and you're only telling her this because she deserves respect and clearly her friend doesn't respect her (both by how she treats her and you), it might work

but if that's what you did, either bring it up again or let her figure it out. but if she complains to you about her friend, make sure to bring up these points and ask why the fuck she's still friends with her.

good luck
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>>17176796
i asummed this too (im the original guy you quoted) but for some reason ive had my girlfriends and well im still a virgin thanks to my own retardation, but when i talk to a girl in a bar im legit interested in what she is saying and if i feel like doing a joke here and there i am doing it. but ive never flirted with an idea in mind, i always just talk and let the conversation carry me.
im asking this because in my acting class i had to make a scene with a girl there, when we met to rehearse i had to adopt a flirty type of personality and she couldnt stop laughing i asked her why and she told me i am clearly uncomfortable acting like that, and she was right.
the problem is i dont want to be uncomfortable, is this something i can change in case i actually do want to flirt as in trying to get laid, or is it something i cant change?
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how do I ask my virgin gf to bend over and let me play with her ass
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>>17177486
literally just ask her if you can bend her over and play with her ass
what's the problem
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>>17177531
I dont know, sounds like it might be too direct
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>>17177191
Any age.

>>17177209
I would, but she wouldn't date me.
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>tfw called a hipster girl "hipster", now she's offended and might be ignoring me on dating site
;_;
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>>17177074
Say it when you feel it, it's an expression of how you feel in that moment and it shouldn't be dependent on her feelings toward you. After all, even if she didn't love you back you'd still love her, right? Imagine that saying it is like giving a gift.
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>>17177167
You should humor her, in case she's changed her tune, but don't have high expectations. At this point the ball is in her court, so don't make any additional moves
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>>17177425
>what makes girls stop crushing on guys?
He's not interested, or I find something out about him that makes us incompatible
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>>17177535
Directness is good, although you can throw in a compliment too if you'd like
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>>17177535
well how long have you been dating?

i dunno. if my boyfriend said something like this to me, i wouldn't think it's too direct. as long as you say it and respond appropriately to how she feels about it, there shouldn't be a problem.

i.e. if she says "eh i'd rather not right now" then drop it for a few months and come back to it
if she's down well then, go for it dude

as long as you're respectful, there shouldn't be a problem
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>>17177635
Good, you don't want to date someone who's lacking so much self-awareness that something like this would trigger her
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>>17177209
hell yes

some dudes don't like tall girls but its something that drives me crazy, those fucking legs
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>>17177665
But I'm ronery.

>>17177725
Legs for days and they almost always have perfect feet.
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>>17177759
not a foot guy particularly but I could see that bring true, I'm just really into those calves
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Girls
Do you have times when you know a guy likes you but you don't want him to know you know?
Sorry for poor wording, i'm a mess atm.
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>>17177138
>Guys, can you find women of different body types attractive, even if you've not really been with many women with that body type?

Sure. Ultimately, what you come to love about a person isn't what's on the exterior, but on the interior. Often times, once you start to find the interior attractive, the exterior doesn't matter as much and can even begin to look more and more appealing (assuming there is a bare minimum of attraction to begin with anyway--something can't grow from nothing).

>>17177193
>How do I stop being such a gigantic pussy?
Fail. A lot. Often. Eventually you get over it. If you don't, seek professional help.

>>17177243
>Guys, does a girl texting first make you think that she likes you?

Depends on who it is and why they're texting. Generally, no (or rather, I assume they like me--as a person--but I don't assume in a romantic way)

>>17177635
>>tfw called a hipster girl "hipster", now she's offended and might be ignoring me on dating site

It's a dating site. There will be literally hundreds of other girls who ignore you for no real reason.
>met his girlfriend on a dating site
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>>17177899
>Fail. A lot. Often.

At the risk of death?

There is nothing after death.

No pleasure, no agony, no joy, no anger, no hate, its absolute nothingness, only darkness and silence.

If I die, everything would have been for absolutely nothing, and no living thing or inanimate object anywhere can benefit from my rotting smelling corpse void of life.

I'm afraid of death and I'm afraid to die, for there is nothing after death.
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>>17177917
>At the risk of death?

If you truly believe that, see the other part that you didn't quote:
> seek professional help
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>>17177927
>seek professional help

Terminal situation. No psychologist can help me.
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>>17177795
Yeah. When i know a guy is into me but i don't feel the same, i don't want to "rub salt into the wound". Another scenario is if i like him back but it's still very early
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>>17177934

Then no armchair 4chan psychologists are going to have any luck.
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>>17177795

Yup. In this situation now with my best friend. I'm single, I'm pretty sure they like me because of how they're speaking to me, but that feeling isn't reciprocated. I don't want him to know I know because then it might be awkward.
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Girls,
How would you react if one of your closest male friend, that you know like you, wanted to have a discussion about your relationship (what is it, where is it going)
Because of things that happens or are said when we are/talk together, there's chance that she like me in the same way I do
She is also a bit immature, so I don't want to afraid her

Here is the actual, factual state of things
We are not going to see each other during the summer (maybe once or twice only)
We will have 6 months of classes to gether then we have an internship and it's the end of our studies
A few weeks ago, she said she will do the internship in her home country, then work there, so there's chance we'll never see each other again after that
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>>17177945
What CAN I do?
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>>17177899
>met his girlfriend on a dating site
I did this. Not the anon you're replying to either. And you, my good sir, can calmly fuck off. In this day and age it's a great way to meet somebody. >inb4 go to a bar or club u faggt
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>>17177934
Explain it. Anxiety issues are extremely common and psychiatrists deal with them many times a day.
I have such a condition myself, so I can sympathize, but you have to start working on it seriously and not catastrophizing like this.
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Girls
How can i get closer to you without giving off the whole 'i love you' aura? (i have no idea how to say this, not a native english speaker.) I want to play it reeeeeeaally safe with this one. Then again, how safe is too safe? I'm so lost...
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>>17177972
what are you reasons for not wanting to give off the love vibe? are you afraid of being hurt?
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>>17177950

That's entirely up to you. If you're going to choose to cry about dying because a girl rejects you, instead of choosing to actual act. Well then I guess there's nothing you can do.

>>17177952
>I did this. Not the anon you're replying to either. And you, my good sir, can calmly fuck off. In this day and age it's a great way to meet somebody. >inb4 go to a bar or club u faggt

I have absolutely no idea what you're on about.

I'm saying I have enough experience succeeding online dating (which netted me my girlfriend of over a year), and that the norm is you can except to be ignored for any number of trivial reasons while online dating, and it will happen often. Move on.
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>>17177976No, i just feel like i don't know her well enough yet, even though every second i spend with her is nirvana. i want to wife this chick.
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>>17177982
oh well that's fair enough
just don't tell her you love her and you should be good

don't worry about giving off the vibes that you do love her or something. just care about her, be a good friend to her, don't hurt her, etc. and shit will fall into place

she's not gonna get spooked unless you're always on her ass asking what she's doing and who she's with and shit

tldr just don't be controlling, follow ur heart, and save the "i love you" for when you're ready and you won't have to worry about her being weirded out
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>match with girl on Eharmony
>message for awhile
>she's "really glad" I asked to meet
>we talk on the phone for an hour
>is "excited" about meeting, suggests a restaurant we can go to
>all plans set
>hey anon sorry but things going on in my life etc etc that date won't work

Why the fuck would you flake out so late? Thanks for wasting my time bitch.
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>>17175855
How come? What if you start talking to a guy and both of you guys are hitting it off, and after you go on a really good date with him, you learn that he vapes while he's at home. Would you drop him or would you be more lenient with him vaping? Entirely curious.
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>>17177997
>Why the fuck would you flake out so late? Thanks for wasting my time bitch.

Angry much? It's not like she flaked on you and just never showed up.

Get over yourself.
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>>17177997
She found a Chad that was interested in her
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what is it like being an average (looks) grill? do you see yourself getting ignored or treated differently from the pretty girls and whatever?
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>>17177157
Someone posting a picture of attractive girls, and how he can get to fart in their faces.
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>>17178003

Not her, or even a girl, but

1.) not everyone separates vaping from smoking, and throw both in the equally nasty habit category
2).the exact health effects of vaping is still up in the air.

So if someone thinks it's the same thing is smoking cigarettes, and smoking cigarettes is a deal breaker, it makes sense that vaping would be too.

Just because it's a different thing in YOUR mind doesn't mean it is in everyone else's (same applies to pot/hookah/beer/ectacy/acid/mushroms/lsd/whatever else). Everyone's got different deal breakers and limits of comfort.
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Guy with literally too much time because sick leave, what to do when everyone else is busy?

Can't just go to some store and ask some cute cashier out on a date, can I?

What about balls?
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>>17178004

You don't get mad about people wasting your time?

>>17178013

Easier than her male counterparts life. She still swims in male attention but it might be 9/10s instead of 10/10s.

Bear in mind that in online dating zB, women receive 25 messages A DAY on average.

Imagine girls going out of their way to meet you because you're that desirable-that's what being a woman of any kind is like.
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>>17178036
play some vidya?
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>>17178041

Oh, entitled and baseless assertions and /r9k/ tier "facts" (inb4 study with line graph that has no data points).

K. Moving on. I'm knowingly and actively choosing to decide that I don't want to waste my time, so I won't bother to invest in this conversation.

See how that works? I don't want to waste my time, so I don't play the game.

But I do play, I can't complain, because I knew that was the cost going on.

I'll repeat. Get over yourself.
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>>17178036
> ask some cute cashier out on a date, can I?
You can, but I wouldn't suggest it. Cashiers are working a job.

If you ask them out while they're working, it just makes you creepy.
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>>17178058

Naw, go to any uni, club, or website. Even le average girls are swamped with attention to the degree their male counterpart isn't.
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Guy here
A lot of gay guys hit on me because they say I'm cute
Should I understand that as "Girl also find me cute but don't hit on me because of fear/shyness/society" ?
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>>17175392
Just let it go. It sucks, I know but it's over and done with. You're not going to get the satisfaction you want. All you are doing is hurting yourself now. Find someone to talk to that's actually worth your time.
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GF admitted that she cheated on me by having phone sex with a random guy in the beginning on the relationship, I understand her reasons and what to forgive her, but it's really conflicting inside of me as it's been a personal core principle that cheaters do not get forgiven, and I feel sick to my stomach and hurt. Help?
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>>17178029
You're right, almost all of my friends consider vaping it's own thing when compared to smoking cigarettes, so I guess my mind conformed to not even associating it with cigarettes. Anyways, can you answer my question regarding going on a date with someone and really liking them, and then finding out that they smoke cigs outside their house, but never in public? (Assuming that you don't like cigarettes)
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>>17178013
definitely get treated DIFFERENTLY than really pretty girls but i wouldn't say worse

i think i'm probably a 6.5/10 but i'm in no deficit of male attention
never had a problem getting a boyfriend or anything and i still get catcalled by creeps on the street
when i used tinder/okcupid i got attention quickly

so i might not get the same kind of attention, but i'm not really too salty about it
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>>17178082

Proof that women can't be lonely
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>>17178071

*shrug* Not to wreck your confidence or anything, but as another guy who gets hit on by gay guys a lot (childhood friend is gay, best friend is a lesbian, I'm around a lot of gay people and at gay bars and clubs a bit), it could mean absolutely anything.

For what it's worth, I do get checked out a bit by girls, (though honestly, my gf notices and points it out more than I do).

Honestly, if it makes you more confident in yourself to think that, go ahead. A lot of what makes a guy attractive in the eyes of girls is often the way they hold themselves. Someone who sits, stands, and walks with confidence is much more attractive than someone who's hunched over all the time and scared.
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>>17178059
>it just makes you creepy.
What's with this "creepy" thing anyway? I feel like it was practically designed to encourage and exacerbate social anxiety issues, since it seems to be totally arbitrary and have zero clear rules. It's just
>do something "wrong"
>you are creepy
like anxious people always worry about. Why exactly is it "creepy", and what does that even mean to you?
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>>17178104
well i'm also not a complete idiot
like i might look kinda shit but i'm not retarded

i don't think it's true that women can't be lonely but as long as someone isn't a retard and it's bearable to look at them they should be o k eventually

although i will concede it's probably easier for a 6.5/10 not retarded girl to get a dude than it is a 6.5/10 not retarded dude
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>>17177075
I have to do this with my wife and kids at least every couple days. Years of abusing my ears is finally taking its toll. Just mention politely that you have trouble hearing and if it makes it easier have her face you when talking and try to read her lips.

Also maybe get your hearing tested?
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>>17178059
Even if I had the face of a hot guy with 15 inches flaccid?
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I have a few moles on my body. Two raised in visible areas (maybe 3-4mm in diameter) and one big one on my upper thigh.

Are these repulsive to guys? Hate them so much I'm thinking of just saying fuck it and going for the nail clippers. Already did that to one and it healed perfectly in a week for some reason.
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Guys:

How does it feel to hear/see other guys thirsting after your girlfriend? Also, would you rather your girlfriend ignore thirsty people online or reply with a dry 'I'm not interested' wit?
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>>17178160
Nope nothing wrong with it
Same goes for scars in my book

Moles on the face are distracting to me tho
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>>17178160

There was a girl in college that really liked me, she was pretty, but she had a skin tag on her chin and I refused to date her.
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>>17178199
I legitimately don't care as long as she does the same
If she's harassed by someone she can block then etc. If its irl I'd come pick her up so they can see me and if it persists there are legal ways of handling it

She should tell them no and if they continue ignore them
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>>17178212
Alright, thank you.

I've been getting some thirsty ass Ask.fms and I'm an extremely sarcastic person. I want to be sarcastic as hell but I'm not sure if that qualifies as giving them attention/validation or not.
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>>17178107
>Someone who sits, stands, and walks with confidence is much more attractive than someone who's hunched over all the time and scared.
Is this really a universal truth?
I'm a dude and i like shy nerdy girls, would i really like big buff gymrats and frat boys if i was born with two Xs?

>>17178160
Don't use clippers on skin tags, get a proper kit from your local pharmacy (eg Dr Scholls sells a blue box with both a mini compressed-CO2-canister contact-freeze tool and a salicylate-impregnated bandage set).
Much less likely to scar that way.
My dad has warts all over his neck, back, and legs so I have intimate experience with this unfortunately.

If you mean moles like just simple nevi like pic related, leave them alone, literally nobody cares or even notices.
Those who do notice think they're like freckles: make you more interesting and less of a CGI doll.
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>>17178220
Well if you want to have fun include him in it
I did it with my ex and it was actually a great experience

But giving more attention usually makes them spam you more yes
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>>17178125
creepy means an ugly going doing something as though hes not ugly, like he doesnt understand his station. for example, approaching random women

you can find whats 'creepy' by using the brad pitt test; think of the same scenario but replace the guy with brad pitt and see if its still bad, if it isnt then its only meme 'creepy'

- would brad pitt be creepy if he asked out a cashier? (no)
- would brad pitt be creepy if he skinned dogs for fun? (yes)
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>>17177209
If she had a great personality, yes, but her being that tall does make her considerably less physically attractive.
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I'm texting on a daily basis with this girl I met on a dating site. She's kind, funny, interesting. Her face is also really pretty. The thing is, I haven't seen her body yet and I'm afraid she might not be my kind of girl. I mean, I'm not THAT picky when it comes to body types, and I do like my girls chubby. But, judging by what she told me, she might be really overweight or obese. She's also going to the gym on a regular basis, so she might lose weight with time. How can I ask her for some pictures without sounding like an asshole? I don't want to end up going out with someone I haven't even seen.
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Alright boys: i fear i'm overwhelming my bf sexualy. I asked him but he tells me he's happy how things are. We are dating since 6 months and i have always been someone with a high libido. But i was reserved and shy about my desires. I decided to work on that and -holy crap- the nympho that is unleashed is actually creeping me out a tad. I don't want him to feel like a sex object or overrun by my hornynes. How can i try to tell where the boundaries are if he doesn't tell me truthfully? I suspect he would not say a word, even if i AM becoming too much for him to handle. For example: few days ago i suggested to try watching porn together (yeah, i know. But for a hardcore vanilla person, that's already pretty kinky). He was eager to give it a try and clearly enjoyed it. But afterwards he was 'strange'. Unusually distant. I asked him about it but he denied that he was behaving different. What do?
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Ex just told me we can't hang out because then she'll fall for me again

Is that the biggest loaf of horseshit
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>>17178396
Post pic and i'll tell you how fat she is
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>>17178416
Nope. Your ex is absolutely right. No matter the reasons, DON'T hang out with exes. EVER
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>>17178426
That seems so stupid though. Why even say something like that?
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>>17177997
Wow, this chick dodged a bullet
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>>17178433
Because they want to spare your feels or becausr they want to get back together
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>>17178433
Because she will fall for you again
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>>17178443
>>17178446

It's been a year since we broke up and we broke up due to distance which isn't an issue anymore and faults of my own that have been dealt with.

It's stupid as shit to say something like that.

Now she's saying "It's not going to be that easy to get back together"

This is all coming out of nowhere.
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>>17178396
Just meet up with her already and decide in person, it sounds like you're at that point now anyway
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>>17178452
Do you want to get back with her ? Does she want to ?
Since she know she will fall in love again if she meet you, the answer to the second question is closer to 'yes'
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>>17178452
Tell her how you feel, tell her you think it's stupid, that you'd rather try and fail than not even see how it goes. Tell her she's worth the risk.
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>>17178460
I would really like getting back together but that's not going to happen if she refuses to even try hanging out because she's scared she knows she'll fall for me again.

Frustrating the heck out of me. As long as I've known her she's been a little meek and shy about going against the grain and trying what might be hard; that's a big reason we worked well together because complementary personalities.

Any advice on how to try to get her to stop either feeding me bullshit to spare my feelings or do what's difficult and trying again?
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>>17178470
I am in the same situation as you
Exactly the same, except the long distance part isn't resolved yet. We have trouble to meet because of that

You can't force her to do what she doesn't want to do but you can try to explain it to her rationaly (I know it's a girl, logic doesn't work well with them)
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>>17177997
Catfishman strikes again
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Situation:
>bf has female friend who is actually his ex
>dated for a year, then broke up because she went abroad for a while
>wanted him back when she returned but he turned her downand told her to "just be friends"
>that was 4 years ago
>she's now his bff and they frequently meet and do stuff jiat the two of them
>have never met her yet, after dating him half a year
>i can't tell if that relationship actually is as harmles as he makes it out to be
>besides the facts listed, there are no signs of him not being over her, emotionally unavailable or whatever
>have access to his phone (he gave me his password, and i also can get into it with my fingerpint cause we use each others phone so often)
>embarassingly enough, i'm tempted to look trough their conversations

How bad of an idea is this? I really don't want to snoop. I trus my bf fully. But i'm not so sure about HER intentions... From what i know she seems like a daddy issue ridden attentionwhore. And besudes that, she's obviously exactly his type. Not to mention that i saw messages of her popping up on his phone with loads of kisses and hearts. They also go to the sauna together. Halp?
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>>17178406
It's hard to wear a guy out, frankly. When we talk about dudes' sex drives, we're usually talking about minimums (eg i have a pretty low sex drive, so i'd be fine with a girl who only wants to do it twice a month). But the maximum doesn't really have biological limits (eg i'd also be happy going twice a day if schedule permits) past the refractory period (15-30 minutes in the average guy) and the physical wear and tear on his dick.

Mentally we're wired to be fully loaded and "ready" pretty much 24/7 and react to the situation (ie we don't need to be in a special mood for it, if you're horny then we get horny pretty quick). It's like running with a big dog: go as fast as you want, he can follow your lead. Just glance over once in a while to make sure he's not exhausted.

As for the distance after that session, could be anything. Could be thinking about whether it'd be alright to share his embarrassing futa consentacles or whatever fetish with you.
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>>17178532
>>embarassingly enough, i'm tempted to look trough their conversations
>I trust my bf fully
Deep down you don't.
And that's not a real problem

Don't look through their messages but talk with your bf
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>>17178532
>They also go to the sauna together.
Kek, sounds like a couple of scandinavians to me alright.
It's not her you need to worry about though, it's your BF.
Whatever she wants, it ain't gonna happen without him.
And he not only sounds disciplined, he sounds completely over it, especially since he's the one that ended it and rejected her. Probably just attached to her in the little-sis way (some of us have that protective instinct, kind of like how women have maternal instinct).
I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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A friendship of many years is going to shit.

Both she and I are flirts. I noticed that recently we were doing it more and more with each other and i started wondering what was going on. Tried inviting her to do things to see how we behave when its just us- not only did i not know what she wanted, i didnt know what i wanted either.

Either way she liked the ideas but then would later try to feed me some bs that would later on serve as a last minute excuse to flake out when the time came.

It aint that hard to say "hey man you misinterpreted things im not actually into you." We both go to a group workout twice a week and every time i see her now i cant help but roll my eyes and brush her off whenever she tries to socialize. I thought i could trust a friend of over a decade to be real enough with me to just tell me they arent into me.

I know my behavior now is pretty immature but every time she just goes on acting the way she does with me i just get mad. I know she is not so damn oblivious she cant see what happened and it was fucking inconsiderate to let me waste my time and make a fool of myself. Im not gonna stop going to the group workout but i have to resist the urge to tell her to fuck off and leave me alone.

What would y'all recommend?
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>>17178532
I'd talk to the bf and ask if we could all hang out some time.

I think that is the ultimate solution. Hang out, be open and friendly. See the reactions and flow to the both of them. I think then you'll see if you truly have something to be worried about.


My bf of five years has a female best friend. He's 27 and they've been friends since middle school. He calmed my insecurities to this right in the beginning. And I think within the first year of our relationship, I met her and we hang out occasionally. Granted my bf doesn't hang out with her that often either and they usually hang out with their other friends too. Maybe once every two months or so. When I met her she was sweet, open, herself, really wanted to get to know me, and was "for us" etc. That's how I knew she was definitely not a threat. And we became friends too.
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>>17178441

Yeah, he should have been proud to get flaked on by her.
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My bf did a good and earned a shoe in to his career pathway.

I want to celebrate. I don't know why it's so hard to express how proud I am of him without it seeming cheesy.

Men, give me ideas on how I can show him I'm proud of him for accomplishing something in his life goals?

I offered to take him to dinner to one of his favorite places and we are, but what else? Or is that enough?
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>>17178746

hot sex
if he's into talking during sex, talk dirty about his being successful and stuff
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>>17178532
Compare your situation to >>17178669
Her situation is nice and normal. A childhood friend... no fucking involved... no hanging out alone all the time..

Now look at your situation: an ex girlfriend/fuckbuddy who got turned into a friend.. lots of hanging out alone.. still haven't met her even though they used to fuck like rabbits probably.. and flirty texts..

Are you kidding me, woman.

Seriously - what has happened to this generation of women's self esteem where they allow themselves to be walked all over like a filthy doormat like this?
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>>17178751
I had a feeling sex would be the first thing. That will happen. We have great sex all the time though, I didn't want that to be the only thing I have to offer though. We've been together several years and I just really want to show him how much I support him, significant other bond-wise, y'know.
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How much of a turn off is it for a guy to be a soon to be 23 year old kissless, handholdless virgin, who has zero experience with dealing with the opposite sex?
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What should I do?

I've been with this guy for 4 years, about 1 year ago I caught him cheating, he was picking up girls at a bar and sleeping with them, he told me he's fucked at least 4 different girls over the course of 1 month while with me, the reasoning behind this is because he has an insanely high sex drive and needs sex at least FOUR times a day, which I can do, and have been doing, but he wanted more I guess...

We go to couples therapy and get help, it really did help, everything went back to normal and we're both happy again, however...everything I had before (Confidence, sex drive, happiness) Has gone WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down, we have sex maybe 2 times a month now, my sex drive is just gone, whenever we get into bed together I can't help but think "He was with another girl while dating me..." and my sex drive is just gone

What do I do? I know he's not messing around anymore, but my sex drive is just completely gone and it's hurting our relationship so hard, is the relationship ruined?
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>>17178807
Depends on the girl and on how you present yourself.
But most girls might find it unusual and wonder why you haven't done anything physically with a girl at that age.
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>>17178938
>But most girls might find it unusual and wonder why you haven't done anything physically with a girl at that age.

That's an easy question to answer.
>Shy and introverted kid at early teens
>Unpopular, and outcast status led to the development of even further introverted, and antisocial tendencies, which ended up convincing me that everyone disliked and looked down upon me during my mid teens.
>because of the above, had very few friends, and acquaintances, maybe 3 of them being female, none of whom I was that close friends with. I wouldn't even dare to approach a girl even just to talk with her casually. Never acted on my fledgling crushes on any girls because of my insecurities, and because I was convinced that they wouldn't like me back.
>18 years old, conscripted to the army (live in Finland, it's mandatory here), serve there, get out, find myself with no direction, my fall into depression bad, lose basically all my social contacts as my peers and former friends advance in life.
>Finally get help after almost 3 years of increasingly worsening depression, start recovering slowly, but surely, via the aid of therapy.
>After almost a year of therapy, apply to study for the first time since I got out of high school, get in, and decide to try to start anew, with a bit more positive mindset, where I try not to be as guarded and asocial as I had been before.

And that pretty much sums up the last decade of my life. I moved out of home to study this year's February.
Now, does it seem puzzling why I never have had any real physical contact with girls?
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I'm a 24-year-old female, and I've never been in a relationship. Do I still have a chance to find someone to possibly spend the rest of my life with, or should I just quit before I even started?
I used to struggle with my studies and mental health in the past, which is the reason why I chose to live alone. I thought it would be better to deal with my personal issues first before starting to look for a partner, but now I feel like I'm already too old. Am I doomed to live a lonely, loveless life and then just die alone?
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>>17179024
You still have a good shot.
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>>17178631
Forgive her. She was just doing what she thought was the best course of action: avoiding conflict. You took this one on the chin this time, but try not to let it get to you. Forgive and forget.

>>17178926
More therapy.
If you can't get over it, you need to move on for your own good, and his as well frankly.

>>17179024
>Do I still have a chance to find someone to possibly spend the rest of my life with
Of course, why would you ask? 24 is nowhere near "too old" (i'd say you shouldn't even start worrying before 30).
>Am I doomed to live a lonely, loveless life and then just die alone?
Of course not. Don't even think these kinds of thoughts before menopause (and yes i know women in that position).
Just look at the post above yours! >>17178807 >>1717901
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