I suppose this conversation was fine. I did not do anything

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>>17164720

You have managed to succesfully smalltalk OP.

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>>17164723

>>17164726
It's a strange concept to some.
>>17164720
OP, why you think you mightve goofed?

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>>17164728

>>17164726
It went on for 5 fucking hours

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>>17164732

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>>17164737

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>>17164741

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>>17164742

...why are you posting our conversations online?

>>17164747
Kek

>>17164747
If you are really them, you would know I'm a social moron, and that I like you a lot.

If you are really them leave something as an identifier. Or you know my info and contact me.

But I know that the person probably does not lurk on /adv/

>>17164720

conversation sounds fine.

one thing you have to remember is that girl's are not codes you can crack. they aren't a safe. they aren't a program where you have to click the right buttons.

there are instances where a girl just isnt goign to be in to you. and thats the default mode. you could say and do everything right and she'll still not give a fuck. chemistry isn't really an equation.

>>17164893
>them
>not her
Well, now...

>>17164730
Because I'm a social moron.

>>17164899
Well, if it's who they claim they are, they would know. I don't want to hint at anything.

>>17164896
True. I just am curious to make sure I did not fuck it up to the point of killing any chance with them.

But they seemed semi interested in the thing I mentioned in the city.

>>17164911

>killing any chance with them

assuming there was ever a chance. thats the point i was making

>>17164732
Thats a dude m8. No girls listen to Iron Maiden.

>>17164921
True. It's that when I message her, it does not seem to lean one way or the other. So I tend to over-analyze stuff.

>>17164929
Eh, I know her from College. I can confirm it is a girl.

>>17164933

if it doesnt seem either way then she probably sees you as the casual guy in her life. when you ask something date like she shuts it down, anything else shes fine with cuz girls like to surround themselve.s

>>17164942
Probably. It's just that others see it as her being interested, or it being a start to something.

It's a little odd as in class we did not really even acknowledge each other, but the moment I text her, it turns into a several hour long conversation/

>>17164952

>a girl is bored so she texts back

this is where it is. there is a chance shes into you. but go ask her on a date. a legit one. if she finds another excuse then shes not into you.

shes not going to randomly develop feelings. she either wants you or doesn't

>>17164956
True.

I did invite here to join some friends in the city (purely as friends) but her Bro's graduation was that day. We agreed to do something soon, but neither of us made plans. (Finals and other stuff for the following week or so, for both of us)

When I've spoken to her in the past she made specific mention of times that she is free.

Almost every time I message here it is near instant response.


I'm gonna wait until after Saturday at earliest before I try one last time.

>>17164983

make it a real obvious date. stop playing the game. cuz right now you dont realize it but you are as bad as a woman.

A woman won't admit she knows a guy is into her or that their hang out is a date, cuz the instant she does she risks losing him as a friend, and needs to keep playing it off like they are casual.

you are the inverse. you are keeping things casual-ish with hints of datedness so you dont have to commit to expressing your feelings. that way you can keep saying 'SHE MIGHT LIKE ME. OR I CAN MAKE HER LIKE ME'

both you need to face reality. its time.

>>17164720
New zealand?

>>17164720

Only use texting to set up meetings. Do not talk over things you could use to start conversations next time you see her.

This is a good texting example: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/41qdva/fr_i_have_been_employing_trps_approach_to_texting/

>>17164998
I know. But, I think I moved a little too fast initially and asked her out, to lunch within the first week of talking to her. (And made it known that it was as a date) She said yet to that, but then shit happened and her friend tagged along. So, now I probably fell to being a little too cautious, as I think that I am lucky that she still deals with me to any degree.

>>17164999
Not in the slightest. If you read a bit further you will see obvious NYC stuff.
,

>>17165014

>within a week

that was the CORRECT thing to do. you know that thing people say about how girls decide if they are into you within the first five minutes? thats not entirely true. its an exaggeration. but it does illustrate the process. fast, quick, and decisive. if a girl is at all wishy washy with you she isnt that into you and the relationship isnt going to be very fulfilling. assuming she goes for a relationship at all.

she likes you, at least as a friend. and doesnt mind keeping you in her life. her friend probably tagged along cuz she asked her to. she already decided she doesnt want to date you.

still go for one more try. but make it a real one. there isnt anything new you can tell her that would make her think 'WOW ANON IS DATE MATERIAL'.

do not think you are special just becuase she, like all girls, is an her phone all day. do not think you are special because of texts. girls text everyone. if a girl treats you special shes on your arm. shes doting on you. shes flirting.

this girl seems casual. id still go for the kill, cuz why not, but dont get your hopes up and dont act like theres a secret road to making her realize what a great guy you are.

you are a great guy. she just doesnt have chemistry with you

>>17165012

>https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/41qdva/fr_i_have_been_employing_trps_approach_to_texting/

also, so much fucking this. you can generally tlel if a girl is into you because if they are, they will suggest an alternative option, or at the very least take your second offer.

>>17165029
Probably.

With how the friend was there, it seemed as if they forced their way in.
When I asked her out initially, she responded without hesitation, but the night before, she told me her friend wanted to come along.

Honestly, I spoke to her like two time prior to asking her out, so....

Some have said I did move too fast, and that I'm lucky that she's still dealing with me.

Others have said it is obvious that she likes me

And a whole host of other things. Just about the whole spectrum of possibilities were mentioned

>>17165072

>as if they forced their way in

almost as if thats what the girl wanted you to believe, so that she wouldnt have to deal with explaining that shes not into you.

if her friend 'forced' her way in, you could have easily quickly asked her on another date but you havent.

just stop rationalizing. stop playing thegame. enough time has passed. shes into you, or shes not.

you are not a failure if shes not

>>17165090
How they acted made it seems as if they forced their way in.


I guess I'll give it one last go, and if not, then I'll just leave it.

>>17165103

good luck

>>17164720
You good OP, I couldn't do this without getting bored out of my mind

>>17165129
Its not like I sat their only messaging her, I was busy with other stuff.

>>17165118
Though I'll wait till after Saturday before I do anything on the of chance that she is not busy. And other reasons

>>17164929
>>17164937


I've known girls who listen to Maiden, but typically it would be the popular tracks


>>17164720
I think you did fine, but I would not push it any further atm

>>17164720
You did well, fampai. Just use an emoji here and there, bitches love that.

>>17165771
I probably should, I just never use them. Ever. So it will take some getting used to


At least she is not the type to use stupid amounts. I think in the time I've spoken to her she used less than 10 emojis total

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>>17164728
>Gogol Bordello

>>17165778
Yeah, only high schoolers use like 10 emojis in every single fucking message they send.

But sometimes, just using one can help set the mood right, whichever mood you're trying to set.

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>>17165784
At least I listen to good shit.


Alot of Punk in my playlist, along with some varieties of Alt Rock, metal and other stuff

>>17165785
I guess that is true. I've just never been the type to use them, at all, as no one I speak to really use them other than her. But I've only been speaking to her for like a month, so my texting style did not change much

>>17165771
I agree with this anon.

Use emojis once in a while. It helps

>>17165072
Definite possibility. How did they act in general? Any hijacking of the "date"