So here's the thing. I've had a solid 8.5/10 gf of

Bumping cuz I need advice

You've only had sex twice? How does this woman please her urges though?

Have you considered talking to your girlfriend about this? I mean, you've been together for two years after all. Seems like you don't really care about her if you're thinking about cheating/having an open relationship.

>>16476172
Have you talked this out with your gf?
Has she given you a legitimate reason why you two have rarely have sex?

>>16476190
I've told her numerous times what I want. It usually ends up with her crying and feeling guilty which makes me feel like shit and I cave in. She's just not very interested in sex. She sometimes masturbates but really is just a generally not sexual person

>>16476191
>I don't feel like it
>I'm tired
>maybe later
>don't pressure me
Shit like that. She always dodges direct answers. The only reason I'm not suspecting it's because she's banging someone else is despite 0 sex she's super clingy

I'm as confused as everyone else as to how she can be so clingy and have 0 sex drive

>>16476195
Wow, and you've been together for 2 years? Holy shit, I applaud your efforts.
Look man, if you really care for her, don't cheat. Tell her straight up that you're sexually frustrated, and that if she can't fulfill your needs, then you'll leave her.
>if that what it takes

If she really does love you, she'll try to keep the relationship together by having sex with you more often.
Be straight up with her man, don't hold back.

>>16476210
Thanks man, I think I'll do that

Tell her that it's not okay that she dogdes. She's your girlfriend of two years. She should be able to talk about matters that are important enough for you to consider fucking other girls if not resolved.

Jesus fuck, man. I mean, I was in a five year relationship with a girl who only gave in about ten times the last two years, but at least she had a good reason, since she's a lesbian, and now married to a another woman.

Sort it out with your girlfriend before asking advice on how to score a FWB.

>>16476195
Yeah, I don't think she's just going to come around. If you value your relationship, have a serious talk with her and give her an ultimatum. Maybe try to make sex more enjoyable for her by asking her what would make it better.

Sex is awesome, especially for girls. It's interesting how she's in a committed relationship, but doesn't get sexual urges often... It's definitely an important part of a relationship.

>>16476210
That's a thought ooooorrrrrr he could just not be a pussy and get with the other girl until his gf learns to have sex. I decided to cheat while my gf was still discovering her sexual side, and it was the perfect distraction until I could have sex with her

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>>16476201
Abort. That's never been a good sign in my experience. Two years is fucking impressive to deal with that shit though.

>>16476231
Thing is that I feel like shit if I go to set a sex ultimatum because then she "feels pressured and doesn't 'truly' enjoy it" it usually just ends with a bj (if I'm lucky) and me feeling guilty

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>>16476237
Really what it is is that she spaced the sexual stuff out just enough that I thought it was going to pick up only to be severely disappointed

>>16476239
You don't have to feel guilty... It's normal to want to have sex in a committed relationship. If she is intentionally trying to make you feel that way, it's a major red flag.

Don't just tell her that it's either have sex or break up. Just explain why sex is important to you, and that you'd really appreciate it if she tried harder. If she can't be selfless enough to even try, then she's not really worth your time anymore.

Something isn't right in this story.
You had sex twice, in the two years you've been together.
Can you tell me, exactly, how you had sex?
Was it enjoyable for her? Did it look like she liked it?
How long was it? A quick 5 minutes? 10 Minutes?
When's the last time you've seen her naked?
Maybe she's hiding something.

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>>16476245
Sex is an integral part of relationship and being deprived of it for what isn't really that much of a good reason is just unhealthy. I dealt with a girl like that for 14 months and it's not something I'd ever deal with again.

>>16476256
>sex was fairly vanilla. Missionary and cowgirl position
>she gave the whole "wow you were great" speak after but ultimately said sex wasn't as amazing as she hoped it'd be.
>tried again doggy and cowgirl again, she said she liked it better the second time and wanted to try again (still waiting)
>average length of time, maybe 30-45 minutes counting foreplay (she was really wet by the time I actually went down on her so it's not like she wasn't in the mood)
>I see her naked pretty frequently, we sext every now and then, I see her go to shower, etc. Just no sex drive

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>>16476274
This is weird man. Honestly, I think this is something you should talk to your mates about over a few beers rather than on here, better if your mates kind of know her.
Also, what do you want for next pic? Qt grill or qt doggo?

Pic kinda related

>>16476265
Did she ever tell you why?

>>16476284
Qt doggo. I could use one of those right about now

>>16476274
Jesus this is a mystery. The only question I have left is, do you, and did you the first two times, initiate it? Or was it her?

>>16476292
>both?
It was sort of standard porn opening. Sitting on couch, kissing turns to making out turns to groping, clothes off, go to bed, and blah blah blah you know the rest. She honestly looks at it with the same apathy people feel when they don't want to do the dishes but she can get away with not doing me

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>>16476285
I should clarify a bit. She had moments where she wanted it but if I was ever horny it was tough tits. When she did take it though, it was kinda boring and she didn't seem to enjoy it that much. It was pretty bad for me because I thought maybe I wasn't able to satisfy her and it ate away at my self esteem.
However, no. I asked a few times and she gave the same responses as your girl. Dumped her and now I'm 9 months in with the best girl I've ever been with sexually and relationship wise.

^side note I'm sort of proud of my pun there

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>>16476303
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Here's a Pepe for your troubles

>>16476298
Damn, not the answer I was looking for.
Ok, only thing I could say is talk it out with her. That's the only solution I see that can resolve your misfortune.

>>16476315
Thanks, I'll probably try that when she gets home. Since every time after the first 2 were me initiating I tried maybe backing off but that was literally 0 help because then the idea of sex wasn't even in her head. It's like I need to constantly remind her "hey this is a thing we can do!" Or else she forgets

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>>16476289
Gfs dog. She's called Ruby.

>>16476329
Holy shit what kind of dog is that

>>16476312
Wow that's one rare Pepe. Can I save this friend?

>>16476331
Gold Retriever mix

Are you dummy

>>16476333
Of course, it's the least I can do for such wonderful advice

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>>16476331
Labrador. Best dog I've ever met.
10/10 obedience
10/10 cute
10/10 loveable

>>16476341
The face made it look like it maybe had a little something else in there lol. Thanks for that doggo my man

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>>16476341
Nuh uh, only it's a straight lab. Not a mix. Golden's are pretty fucking good though

>>16476350
SSSSH I WANTED HIM TO GET A GOLDIE

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>>16476353
Personal fave. Rottie

If I am able to dump her though, how do I begin a fwb relationship?

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here's my dog

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OP here. This is my doggo

Anyone with advice for a friend's with benefits thing?

Not looking to date this girl, literally just want to bang her

>>16476484
Break up first. Then fuck everything that moves.

>>16476172
>been together for 2 years
>only have had sex twice.

Break it off , fuck your neighbor. No commitment no pressure.. a free man. Shit have 10 fwb, you're young... live the dream. Be everyones boy toy

You should try to get kinky maybe that will help. Have you ever tried it? If not you need to it will help it or break it.

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A quick thumb in the bum always spices things about a little bit

http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/

3 things:

1. she has been satiating her sexual desires elsewhere. not "maybe". she certainly is.

2. you're just being used as a provider

3. you can't negotiate attraction

>>16477954
Jesus, don't freak the man out. Reading that made me a lil anxious.

>>16478014
He SHOULD be freaked out. Sex twice in 2 years. He shouldn't even let her call herself girlfriend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3bn9s6/fr_my_story_she_is_not_who_you_think_she_is_15/?

>inb4 reshit

Just fucking read it, and take a lesson from it.

I wouldnt incase your allergies act up.

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>>16478053
He should definitely be freaked out by her. Just don't wanna make things worse for him senpai

Senpai goddammit why
F A M

>>16478178
baka desu senpai, OP just needs to stop being such a kek kek

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>>16478183

OP is getting C U C K E D as we speak.

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Buy a lab instead of a grill man

>I've had a gf of over 2 years
>have only had sex twice
pick one.