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> What is El Goonish Shive? A webcomic. The early years were

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> What is El Goonish Shive?
A webcomic. The early years were awkward and ketchy, but it's grown into something awesome in the last fourteen years.
> Why is it in /aco/?
Loads of fetish material and a Patreon-funded pin up blog. The thread image is an edit of one of those pin ups. The comic is still technically worksafe, but our discussion of it isn't.
>>Any links I should know?
egscomics is the main page. egspinups is the Patreon-funded art at Tumblr. egs-edits, also at Tumblr, takes pinups, sketchbook entries, and comics and makes pretty good nude edits. There are a few good fics at AO3 as well, but any drawfags, writefags, or editfags that want to hop on the train are encouraged to.
> Previous thread: >>834875
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and spliced into the animation
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So, which is better - Beach Week, or Werewolves of Moperville?
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Better question: who cums the loudest?
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>>928721
Rhoda
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We don't have Pandora lewds yet, for some reason? No good pinups to exploit for her? I'd like to see some younger, pre corruption stuff.
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I've said it before, I'll say it again: We need some good drawfags that like the comic so we can commission shit like that.

I guess there's always Planetofjunk, he did the Diane and Susan bikini pin up...
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>>931764
Yeah man. If we had more drawfriends these threads would be alot more interesting.
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>>931978
So learn to draw.
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>>933910
I can kinda draw, but im not confident enough in my skills yet to actually post it.
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We could like, make requests in the drawthread at least. I haven't been seeing that.
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BE versions
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>>925336
Bump for best webcomic
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>>933937
Hey, can't be worse than half the guys in the /co/ drawthreads. Polish up for a couple of days and show us what you've got!

>>934109
Seems reasonable.
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How often do you think Fox and Nanase go at it?

Image semirelated.
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>>936755
I dunno, how often do you think Nanase watches Fox and Ellen go at it?
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Any flash?
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>>936812
I wonder what happens when Ellen hits Fox with the V5 beam. Combining magic seems to lead to new toys that explode.
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>>936755

There could be an entire, daily, X-rated comic devoted to Nanase & Ellen exploring & discovering all their options.
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>>936573
Well, ok. I gave it a shot and decided to draw Susan.
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>>940024
Not objectively shit.
Body is pretty solid, eyes need some work.
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>>940811
>Not objectively shit.
Thanks?
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>>940024
>>940928

I can see how you're not happy with your current state of progress.

But I also think you're being too hard on yourself. You've got a pretty solid base to start from.

Improvement needed? Of course. Do one of these every day and you'll see rapid improvement. Nobody here is going to blow sunshine up your ass. If that's what you need for validation, start a tumbler.


>Not objectively shit

You're on 4chan. That's a ringing endorsement.

You'll notice neither of us posted anything. Encourages one to ponder upon things.
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>>925336
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>>941073
Well alright, I guess I can try it out then. Do you have any ideas for what I should try my hand at?
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>>941549

Pick something that you want to do. If you're not doing something you love, you're not going to care.

Some advices/suggestions:

Make a list of favorite characters. Ideally, characters you feel you have a story to tell about. Each picture you draw, each look on their face, each detail of their body language is telling a piece of a story.

Make sure it's something you have an interest in telling.

Remember that your efforts are going to look like shit at first, especially to yourself. Dan Shive has been doing this for over 15 years now ... if you feel the need to compare yourself to his work, at least go into his archives and compare yourself to the first year or two of his efforts.

That's why your pic above doesn't really suck. It looks like Susan back when Dan was drawing her in 2003/2005. Re-read Grace's Birthday Party; there's a solid resemblance, although your effort is a touch more manga-ish. And is your own style.

Practice faces & facial expressions, and Dan has given you an incredible archive to use as reference. Work your way to more dynamic body language ... but a simple, relaxed stance like you did above is a good start. Next try sitting. Then try from left, right and center. Then from above then from below. Don't expect to do it all in one week. Or one month.

Set yourself goals of something you want to attempt, 3 months out, 6 months out, etc. Susan swinging a light sabre, or a hammer, for possibilities. Then try different outfits, like Susan as Princess Leia. Slave Girl Leia, so that Susan would beat you up for it.

Pic related brings a lot of that together: Susan in a Star Fleet uniform as a fairy doll. Or Slave Girl Leia. But, pay attention to filename on that; Dan didn't do that in his first decade.

Develop a thin skin. The Internet is brutal, and 4chinnz is full of assholes. At least you're not trying this on /pol/.
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Since it's on topic with the main story: let me link this fanfic https://archiveofourown.org/works/3696848
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>>944154
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/3696848
...One of the better ones, really.
>>941861
Also for the love of all that's holy get some better lighting. Or start working on a tablet.
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I looked over the short descriptions of the EGS fics on that site, and I read this one. I thought it was pretty hot.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/7668433
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>>946433
It's definitely hot. There's a short in the One-Shots that has a similar theme.

You think any of the writefags on AO3 take requests?
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>>938978
Hmm now that I think on it, angel nanase on angel nanase (ellen) sounds like a good time.
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>catalina needs my ______, and I'm going to give it to her!
Rhoda's grown so much since her introduction.
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>>925336
Bump
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Jesus, the potential for abuse is immense. Worse than a goddamn holodeck. I want it.
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>>954311
Kinda got my fingers crossed that some of that abuse will involve Sarah's new muscle fetish.
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>>955472
...agreed. And/or her burgeoning bisexuality.
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Why does the porn have so little transformation fetish? Aside from the edits, I mean.
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>>958951
Most people are in it for the teen romance and sexuality and not for the transformations apart from genderbending and catgirls.
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>>954311
And she's supposed to use this spell as much as she can. Too bad Dan doesn't draw porn.
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>>936087

this turns out not to be true.
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>>955472
>>956756
>>959297
>no explicit Sarah/Grace/Tedd muscle threesomes
I am sad within my pants.
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>>938880
Not yet.
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>>951725

> Having a 9" catgirl go full motorboat on your rack.

Im'a guess the whiskers will tickle a bit.

Also, I think obviously, the only place to hide Cat & sneak her out of the mall is, obviously, snuggled between Rhoda's boobs. Obvious answer is obvious.

> C'mon, Dan. DOOOOO IIIIITT !!!!
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>>962324
"I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE HEAVEN. I WAS RIGHT."

First of the new pinups. Sarah showin' a little leg, and that brooms ain't what they used to be.
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>>954311
I don't even know what the point of the spell is. It doesn't affect the real world, right? I can't see what the use is in a spell that basically amounts to "Sarah interacts with her imagination".
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>>965294
The physical simulation matches reality, as long as she doesn't mess with it too much. She could probably access a copy out of computer and get real information out of it, and probably handwave any password away.
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>>965294
dude it's a fucking holodeck. Also it's a fucking holodeck that can give you informations about reality if you don't mess with it too much.
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>>959297
>>955472
Sarah is too cute. Covert pervert girls are the best.
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>>965548
And hey, if Sarah is ever feeling depressed she could simulate eating a tub of ice cream. Or several.
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>>965548
My first thought when her spell was revealed was that it had to be used for intelligence gathering. It's a spell that takes place entirely within one's own head, doesn't leave any traces, and includes a sense of time displacement. It's not even known what range limitations it has, if any. Plus, with the illusion-manipulation abilities, it's not only even MORE powerful for information-gathering, but it's also got some very obvious entertainment applications.
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>>965548
You can use it to discuss options with yourself, since time moves differently.
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>>962324
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>>968726
Well played, Dan. We -were- all thinking it, and I'm glad you were too.
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>>968780
Dan would probably be so much happier if he didn't have his hang-ups about nudity and could do a porn comic.
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>>968794
I dunno about you, but the fact that the comic is as clean as it is while still poking at the fetish material is kind of what I like about it. Sure, I'd fucking LOVE it if Dan had a side-page for porn stuff (something like David Willis and his Dumbing of Age porn, but without the inherent Willis-iness of it all), but I'd be nearly as happy if we had some more people doing porny fancomics, like Carasibana's edits.

Hell, that way we could get into pairings Dan would never touch.

Tangentially related: Odds of an edit on this one?
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>>964602
Is that Sarah? Looks like she's got a little V5 going on.
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>>969184
nah, boobs are too small and hair is too short.
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>>969047
>>969184
> Naughty Librarian Amanda
https://www.patreon.com/posts/single-be-quiet-7143183

The glasses. Amanda is very nearly the only character that wears glasses.

And, her rack is all hers, without enhancement.

Further clue: Sarah's nose is different, and she has a more rounded face, her jawline is basically a half-circle where Amanda has a touch of angularity to it. >>964602

Compare Sarah's face to Ashley's ( >>927514 ) for similarities, and then Amanda's to Susan's.
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So, hypothetically, if someone was making an EGS dating sim type-game where most of the cast was romanceable, would you prefer Tedd or Sarah as the main character?

(It's not hypothetical)

(Totally doing this)
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>>970415
Honestly? With the way characters and relationships as they already are, I'd go with an OC. It'd seem much less forced to have lots of options.
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>>970415
>>970874
Seconding using an OC (or an AFGNCAAP).

New edit.
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>>970415

OC, or Elliot. Elliot is the character in the best position to romance the most cast members.

Tedd/Tess, Sarah, Nanase, Susan, Ashley, Ellen for clonesex, Justin for homo... pretty much the only main character not within a short leap of him is Grace.

And thats even before you introduce transformations to unlock new routes, like V5 Justin/Greg.
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>>970415

I am assuming you mean, which character the player will conquest, rather than play? Of the choice you give, Sarah without hesitation.

Also, the game won't be worth being in the EGS universe unless both the player and the conquest(s) have access to sex morphing magic. Encouraging Sarah to draw out of her shell and explore possibilities, even & especially possibilities with other characters in 3- and 4-way romances and erotic encounters, would be a pretty amazing and unique game.

For example ... unlocking a path where I could morph into a cute girl and engage Sarah, Ellen and Nanase in a 4-way. Even unlocking Nanase's Fox persona and turning it into a 5-way. Or a 4-way with Cat & Rhoda ....

Under such a general layout for the game, it would be important to establish a solid bro relationship with Ted to access his tech, including a path for a permanent new sex & look as default for player & main conquest. Hopefully that would involve a 3- or 4-way with Ted and Grace plus Sarah to access Teds trust and willingness to share his tech.

I would not in the least mind starting out as a male character to Sarah's female and unlock a scene or two where I could play out a female (even a catgirl) to Sarah &/or Grace as males.

I mean ... if you're gonna go full EGS, it's a wide open universe with many possibilities.

I'd also like to make sure that the options remain for the female characters to keep slim and athletic bodies. I don't particularly object to the V5 forms and even experimenting with them, but I'm not a great fan of gihugic flopping tits and asses the size of Volkswagons. Catalina and Sarah are two of my favorites because they are somewhat tomboy-ish, in addition to their personalities.
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>>971751
Elliot is nominally the central protagonist of the comic, and nearly half the cast has shown some level of canonical interest in him. Only a slight bending of genre is really necessary to make the dating sim scenario work. He also doesn't come with the intrinsic narrative baggage of an original character.
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>>971751
Laying it out like that, my mind immediately jumped on a structure in which Grace is the "guide" of the sim, assisting the player (Elliot or an OC, either could work) in their pursuit of the chosen partner through advice and moral support. This wouldn't even necessarily disqualify Ted as a candidate, as I don't expect Grace would even think to be jealous/expect that it would jeopardize her relationship with Ted, and would just want to help her friends be more happy (can anyone confirm a negative here in Grace never showing jealousy in Ted's affections of another or vice versa?).

There's even the possibility of including a background meta-game where, through specific responses to post-date interview/next-date planning sessions with Grace, you actually build up a hidden social link with her (as compensation for them not having the strongest cannon connection in universe). At the deciding moment, you unlock an option to confess to her instead of the character she's been helping you get closer to the whole game.

>"Aren't you excited, Elliot. Today's the big day. You'll go to see CHARACTER and tell them how you truly feel and they'll feel the same way completely and you'll both be SO HAPPY oh I'm so excited."
>"Actually, Grace, it turns out the one I really want to be with... is you."
>"!!!"
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>>973048
That sounds interesting. I had been thinking Pandora could make for a good 'guide' character, depending on how you wanted to fluff the game and it's story, but Grace might work as well/better.
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>>944154
You should write another one where Sarah uses her ability to animate other people in the brain freeze, specifically Teddy and Grace. And keeps switching bodies around. And gets greedy and uses bodyswapping during sex to steal all the orgasms for herself.
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I liked the description:
>It was a gradual thing. At first, the very idea of being seen without clothing, or seeing anyone else without clothing, was enough to make Sarah blush and run out of the run.
>As more and more experiments with various wardrobe complications took place, however, Sarah became more and more accustomed to it.

>It eventually reached a point at which not only would she not care, but she'd forget she wasn't wearing anything. On more than one occasion she started to leave Tedd's house without her clothes, and on one particular >occasion that Tedd has yet to make sense of, she arrived at his house as such, and never acknowledged the situation.

>Tedd has some concern that this all might be more a side effect of one of their experiments than a natural shift in personality, but he's far too nervous to say anything.
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>>975408
Oh god, please tell me that's canon.
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>>970415
Elliot.
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>>975408
>its cannon that sarah just walks around naked sometimes
I fucking love you Shive.
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>>979255
I doubt he'll follow through on the whole thing as being canon. That said, some nudity is already implied and she's probably progressed along these lines somewhat as far as being comfortable with it around Grace and Tedd. Walking across the neighborhood nude is a step too far I think.
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>>975408
>Just starts forgetting she's naked
>Wonders why everyone around her is acting so strange
>Doesn't realize the problem until she's back home
>By then she forgets she doesn't have her keys
He he he...
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>>979299
Don't take this from me.
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So, I'm putting together a script for the game. I'll pastebin a WIP when it's a little more developed - likely around Wednesday or Thursday.

Part of this is because I have two versions that I'm mucking around with, and I want to develop them juuuust a little further before I decide on which one I'll use. I'll still post them both up, for comparison's sake.
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>>979299
I say it's canon, but sometime in the future.
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>>979299
Considering this was pretty recent in the comic, I doubt she's THAT comfortable going around naked yet. So for now it's just a sexy fantasy/future thing.
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>>981177
The EGS setting is a multiverse. It's probably just a few universes over.
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>>982328
Everything looks just the same, but everything is far lewder just below the surface. I can dig it.
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>>979299
With her new powers, she could definitely do so with no repercussions if she wanted to. So she just has to want to.
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>>982668
She'd be great at public speaking: "Imagine everyone in the room naked."
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>>982549
You know what? Let's make this cannon to the game, somehow or another. All the perversion would feel more justified, and it would give it an aura of canon given the many worlds setting.
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>>984666
I can dig it.
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>>925336
YES!
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BE lovers rejoice, Rhoda can make her own boobs bigger!
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>>989437
This has pinup potential.
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>>989480
>Boob window edit
>Sweater pulled up edit
>Full nude edit
In terms of progressive difficulty.
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>>989507
Fingers crossed that EGSEdits does this one.
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>>989437
Gimme that edit!
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>>991025
Okay.

Also, http://pastebin.com/eQfyJxyu

The first scene for the dating sim, or a rough draft thereof. Gonna need some help to LOGIC the game flow out.
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>>984666
So there's a non-coin but nearby pornoverse of mainline continuity somehow in contact with the game's universe. And at some point, they have to interact with them, and get them to focus on tasks without accidentally starting to fuck suddenly every 5 minutes. They regard the normalversers like alternate versions of themselves that don't blink or poop for somehow not ending up fucking every 5 minutes. Their notions of virginity are entirely centered around innocent things like hand holding and first dates, which they have trouble talking about or watching happen, unless they are very bold. Everyone from the pornoverse is a bisexual contortionist, and no one is asexual or a pedophile, although cuddle drive varies from person to person, with some people just seeming to have no interest in it. Tentacle monsters are just another type of person. Puberty happens to everyone in their sleep in it's entirety on their 17th birthday, and festivities mostly involve the birthday boy/girl/creature getting the hang of their new drives. Pregnancy takes only a few weeks, and only hurts as much as you want it to. Their men have no refractory periods, and futa-ism is an STD you can be treated for, or get all cultural about, as you wish. The more I think about this, the more I like it.
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Wow. I remember reading this on keenspot in like, 2001.
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>>994250
It was ahead of it's time even then.
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>>994222
That's all very interesting, but a touch more than I was going for probably. That much screwing would actually get boring. And the weirder stuff is, well, weird.
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Would you comfort a broken Tedd?
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>>995549
I'd tell him mass produced uryuom technology is a very good second best.
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>>995549

I really hope he processes this in a healthy way, and not in an evil overlord bending magic to his own will way.
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>>997180
I...can't say I'm rooting for the same thing.

Then again, I sort of dislike a lot of Dan's plot twists lately. A little rage against the machine could be a good thing.
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>>997180
Broken Ted would represent a level of conflict that HAS been decidedly lacking for years now. Even in contentious moments, every EGS character has a marked blandness to them in their level of understanding and degree to which they will think ahead to the most reasonable/rational explanation or course of action. Even attempts to the contrary often conclude quickly and with a sense of "best case scenario" that nullifies any perceived stakes. It's always been my biggest critique, lumped in with the often neurotic depth of explanation for near every facet of the world, magic or otherwise.

It's been so long since I got a sense of tension from EGS, it'd be nice to see some shot back into the forefront.
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Okay, so here's the game flow as I see it.

-Scene one, as listed in pastebin.
-Scene two, gives you three discussion points that can raise affection, two each for Elliot, Susan, or Sarah. Two of these can also raise for Grace in the background.
-Scene three has the same setup as scene two for Justin, Ellen and Nanase.
-Mini scene with Tedd and Grace testing one of the new morphs for the TF gun.
-TF test scene. Three people with highest affection show up. You pick morph for each of them, then discuss. Affection can pop up or down based on that, and also based on who else is there. Will need a flowchart for that, forms usable, etc.
-After TF scenes and aftermath, Grace needles you about you 'making googly eyes' at who you've got affection raised highest with (unless it's her), and we start down character-centric path.

Does this sound reasonable?
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>>997880
...Susan will be a tricky one. I'd imagine that she'd like most of the morphs (see also the Playing with Dolls storyline) but having certain people around would have her react badly.
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>>998295
Susan likes Star Trek, loyalty, and watching. So she clearly wants to see you masturbate to a picture of her dressed as Tasha Yar.
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>>997431
I actually like the rational behaviour of EGS characters, it's a nice change from stupidity-based plots in other comics.
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>>997431
I just had an interesting thought...While Tedd is definitely distraught, I think he'll wind up accepting it. However, I think it could be the perfect time to re-introduce Lord Tedd, perhaps as the next main villain. Like, Lord Tedd found out about The Will Of Magic and bent it to his own will in his universe. Perhaps he watches all the Tedds of all the universes, and, when a Tedd doesn't react the same way he does, he pounces and enslaves/whatever that universe. Maybe a sort of Rick & Morty thing, where there's a Council of Lord Tedd that will ask him to join their evil ranks and conquer the Magic of his Universe to add to their own.

Crazy fanfiction-like thought there, I know, but it just popped into my head.
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>>999215

It's funny that even though most of us come to this thread dicks in hand, and mostly to post or request smut, it still seems to feature a better level of discourse than the I ever saw when I checked the EGS forums.
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>>997431
According to a twitter exchange, his brain is allergic to anything resembling a situation comedy and the like. He'll want things to always be clear, at least to the reader but he probably will keep characters from getting too tangled up as well. Just how he's wired, I guess.
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>>999672
On the topic of discourse, I'm debating whether or not I should post a link to the egs discord I started a while back. Not too keen on it being flooded with random /aco/ users.
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New comic's up.

>Anyway, I'm starting to think Voltaire might be evil.
Are you sure, Dan? That malevolent grin could mean anything!
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>>999683
You're really overestimating people who would even bother, I think. At least out of randos and not egs afficectionados.
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>>999741

So Ted has been Voltaire's real target all along... which gets me thinking that Pandora might test the limits of this whole "immortals don't fight" thing pretty soon.
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>>999683
>posting a discord on 4chan at all
No. Slap yourself for even thinking that.
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What do you think the mistake is? Does the proximity between them reduce the duration perhaps?
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>>1001421
I'm pretty sure its that she used two spells back to back, one of which she had never used before.
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>>1001564
I don't see how that's particular to enchantments.
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>>1001656
They're both enchanted with size-modifying spells, except they're in opposite directions, and now they're touching, causing the enchantments to interact somehow

-OR-

Catalina's catgirl spell is an enchantment which might get affected by the enchantment that Rhoda applied somehow, the effects seem to stack
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>>1001669
Hmm yeah, enchantments might bleed into each other resulting in this case both countering the other. And possibly by the same logic resulting in catgirl Rhoda.
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>>1001777
or shrinking/enlarging specific body parts
(pls don't shrink the boobs dan)
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>>1002463
>>1001777
Or merging into one super catgirl.
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Maybe they'll suddenly exchange enchantments. It'd be good for a laugh, at least.
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So is this actually porn or just the /aco/ steven universe. Something the board really likes and has taken to churning out lewd for?

I need to know before committing to reading it
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>>1004041
It's not porn. Read the first post in the thread, it addresses basically everything you need to know
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>>1004041
There is no official porn of EGS yet, but the author has opened a Tumblr he has specifically said is for NSFW art in case he decides to start releasing it.

This doesn't surprise me, really, as it's pretty danged obvious that he draws porn and just doesn't release it.
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>>1005106
Address?
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>>1005284
google egs pinups
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>>1005284
Not been released, since he hasn't started making porn yet.
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>>1005674
There's no chance he'll start posting "porn", it'll be nudes at best.
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>>1005678
True, but he has been going further, lewdness-wise, every year, so if he starts doing full nudes, he might end up going further eventually.

>>1002998
This should happen.
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>>1007672
Maybe, maybe, but I expect super softcore vanilla porn at best. Not that I'd mind that.
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>>1010095
Well, super-softcore within the LGBT and transformation themes he already goes for.
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Think Susan has sex toys in that summon box? Would be convenient and discreet, after all.

...Assuming she doesn't get horny in public and reflexively summon it to her hand.
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>having a pretty good thanksgiving
>sees this
>now the best goddamn thanksgiving ever hallelujah holy shit
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>>1017306
T H I C C
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>>1017306
I approve of these pretzels.
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>>1017306
Ah, is it too late to suggest something pretzel related on patreon?
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>>1019638
Why would it be too late? Fattening pretzels isn't that seasonal.
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>>1017306
>>1019638
>suggest something pretzel related on patreon?

I am greatly concerned that someone might use their tea to dunk their pretzels.

It's very and most concerning.

Glad I got a chance to air my concerns. No telling what tragedies might have taken place otherwise.
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>>1021570
Late as in it wouldn't get any votes.
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This Susan/Diane plot really needs to die. I'm worried that Dan really is going to go "oh look, despite everything they ARE sisters" since I've never really liked the idea of them being related at all and much prefer it being some coincidence i.e. pre-retcon Madelyne Pryor.

It's also made Ellen and Nanase even more annoying than they already are.

>there will never be a best girl Pandora pin-up because people will always vote for 5000 Sarah pin-ups on Dan's Patreon
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>>1025225
>Ellen and Nanase
>annoying
If you can't enjoy mystery solving magical lesbians, then there is no joy left in your soul, and no salvation for you here.
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>>1025225
I want Diane to be Susan from an alternate dimension, one that was destroyed 15 years ago. Diane was shunted to this dimension to save her, hence explaining why she looks a lot like Susan but being adopted and having a different name.
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>>1025225

...I'm actually banking on Diane being alternate Susan from a doomed universe sent to our reality as a baby.
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>>1025624

Huh, I did not read >>1025502 before I posted my comment, weird.
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>>1025264
They're super annoying. Separately I can enjoy them (well, Ellen at least) but together I can't stand them. These last few comics especially because of the constant insistence that hey, Susan and Diane are secret sisters despite every singel character telling them no. Just the constant forcing of the issue.

Much as I'm kind of sick of seeing Sarah pin-ups, I do like the in-comic Sarah/Pandora stuff a lot though. That's way more fun to read but that's largely because Pandora herself is really fun.
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I'll be disappointed if they aren't sisters. Honestly I like Ellen and Nanase, the only cast member I can't stand is Sarah and she's improved ever since she started hanging out with Tedd.
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>>979331
Was she wearing clothes when she left the house? If not then how did she lock the door?
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>>1027271
You can lock the bottom before closing the door, usually.
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>>1025502
>>1025624

I've had a similar thought along those lines ever since Lord Ted was revealed. Just, I wasn't thinking along the line of Susan/Diane.

Interesting possibility. However, there would need to be a canon explanation for the exact time & date & hospital that Diane was born in.

Not impossible ... just needs to be a good explanation, rather than some bullshit.

Example: the universes were so perfectly, closely aligned & parallel that the records from one universe were transposed into the other one and is (almost) undetectable.

The cool thing is that Susan & Diane could be (under such a plot device) the exact same person right down to their genetics. Born to the same mother, even though the two mothers are entirely different people from different universes. And that would help tie up rather neatly the two of them having more or less identical magic affinity.

I'm becoming even more curious as this unfolds as to exactly what Dan has in mind.
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>>1028201
I'm still holding my breath for the return of Magus. Mostly because I want to see a resolution to that particular thread.
I was disappointed when Sirleck came back and didn't get a chance to banter. His sarcasm and mockery was great in his first appearance.
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>>1030053
Notice the large amount of tea left on the table.
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>>1030049
>>1030053
Fucking easy mode for the edits.

>>1030117
I'm sure each has slightly different variations of the effects. And one is just tea, because you always need a control.

Alternatively, he's going to host a tea party.
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>>1027429
The hell sort of weirdo locks do you have?
I need a more in-depth explanation of this.
It's important to the wandering naked fantasy.
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>>1030218
Right, a lot of doors in the US have two locks - one on the door handle (a twist lock or a button that can be engaged easily before closing the door) and a deadbolt above it. It's not universal, but I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHEN WE JUST GOT TEA-SARAH AND RHODA CATGIRL.
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After Rhoda's running you have to wonder if Catalina had been shaken and dropped to someplace south of where she should be- and what Rhoda's changes will effect her location after that.
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She seems to have the same clothes, but does New Rhoda have new measurements as well?
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So had a thought on that game idea. Suppose magic went ahead and changed up on how magic worked and it causes all kinds of problems. Pandora, true to her word, works with Sarah on trying to master this new magic. Turns out the new magic is sex powered, and everyone needs to start screwing each other in increasingly perverse ways to defeat the vampires or whatever.

>>1033551
She has completely different spells for that.
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>>1033562
The vampires survive using magic. If magic changes, they are pretty fucked.
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>>1033577
My impression was that natural magic wouldn't be effected, just how it works for humans. Vampires would have a field day.
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>>1030290
Interesting, in Europe most doors have 2 different kinds of deadbolt locks above the handle.
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>>1033985
Needs a dick edit.
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>>1033985
It'd be funny if just like tiny strings of clothing was left from the transformation effect
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>>1034325
Not sure why, but I swear Tedd's in a low-femme female form in that picture. Maybe it's the blushing.
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>>1034296
In America there's almost always a lock on the knob/handle, which prevents it from even turning if it's engaged. Usually there's a secondary lock of some description as well, a deadbolt or a chain.

In the case of the former, it both makes it easy to lock the door as you're leaving, and easy to tell if a door is locked, because the knob itself won't even turn.
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>>1035917
The clothes and the shading, mostly. That and the fact he's a fuccboi.
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>>1036392
I'd fuck a Tedd. In any form.

...wait, no, that's not quite right. I wouldn't fuck a Tedd. I'd tenderly make love to a Tedd. I'd giggle and joke with a Tedd as we made out, stroking a Tedd's hair, squeezing a Tedd's tushie. Whisper that I wanted this to be special for a Tedd. Guide a Tedd to bed and lay a Tedd down. Kiss and nibble all over a Tedd until a Tedd was good and ready, and only then start peeling clothes off like orange rind. Tenderly coax a Tedd to orgasm, after orgasm, after orgasm, until we were both utterly spent. Pass out in a Tedd's arms. Do it again in the morning, only this time with TF watches involved...

I'd fuck a Diane though. In the booty.
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Saw some fanart on the FB page earlier. I'd love to see the femanon who drew it do some work on the /d/rawthread. Hell, even /aco/'s drawthread would be nice. Anyone else see it?
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>>1037544

Sarah get off the internet, you need to drain more magic.
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>>1037975
I wonder if her spell has enough range to simulate using the internet? She could quantum shitpost.
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>>1039110
Think of the camwhoreing. She could know exactly what to offer to post to get the most amount of money.
"Ebeneezer Scrooge was such a hard-ass tightwad that it took three magical personifications of time to break him. And they only managed that because they knew exactly what weak points to strike with what visitation."
Everybody has a price...
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>>1037975
...You can prove NOTHING of my identity. I'm behind seven proxies, all of them magic.
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>>1039457
Yaknow magic proxies would stand out because they violate internet protocols and the laws of thermodynamics and such, right? If your goal is anonymity, you want your transmissions to stand out as little as possible, besides being obscure to trace. You're better off magically gaining access to a conventionally secure device you can't normally be traced to for that purpose in order to provide an air gap, if you insist on using magic at all. Or just using the mahou shoujo identity protection charm.
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>>1039509
Dammit Tedd you're not helping the anonymity angle here.
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>>1037544
Know what would be even better than fucking Diane in the ass? Susan watching you do it.
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While Dan drags out the Susan Answer as long as he can, I wonder which characters can simply snap their fingers and make it happen. If they have the power, do they have the answer?
In a different area, with Mr Verres dealing with aliens, what does he have that would identify bodysnatcher replacements? And how would that lead to a Jacuzzi full of Diane duplicates?
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>>965491
Handwaving the password will slightly affect the info. she could open a file cabinet and read all the files without anyone knowing
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>>1046654
The timestop spell with Sarah could become a very perverse game of Foursquare. Killing time waiting for the counter to finish at every section of town. Goto McBurgers, pose naked. Goto Town Hall, moon everyone. Goto the theater at the mall, fool around with the cardboard cutout of that movie star- you know you want to. On the floor, in the lobby, in public. etc
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>>1046904
More like, go to McBurger, strip everyone naked and put them in interesting / funny / sexy poses.
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>>925336
What is the most underated gender swaped girl? Or gender swaped boy?
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>>1000358
So far every immortal we've seen has connections to the main cast.

Pandora:
>Ted, Grace, Sarah (also everyome who got marked)

Voltaire:
>Ted, Elliot

Jerry:
>Susan

Demetrius and Helena:
>Susan, Nanase, Elliot
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>>1047722
Well to be fair, if they didn't, what purpose would they even have in the comic?
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https://egscomics.tumblr.com/post/154209160378/the-forums-are-not-currently-functioning-properly

The forums are not currently functioning properly, and I’m asking the hosts at 910CMX about both that and whether the forums should continue being there.
There doesn’t seem to be a lot of activity beyond the EGS forums, and while it doesn’t need to be a hustling and bustling place lest I lose street cred, I have a responsibility when calling them the official forums, and that responsibility includes making sure they are receiving regular maintenance and support in every which way necessary.
I don’t doubt those at 910CMX care about it and do their best, but lives move ever forward, and if their focus is naturally elsewhere (work, family, etc.), it’s understandable that the forums would lose priority. 910CMX is not their jobs, and they have other things to do.
I need it to be someone’s priority if I’m in a position of endorsing it, however, which is why I don’t think I’m going to be linking to it in an official capacity anymore.
That doesn’t necessarily mean the forums will be gone; I’m not going to stop them if they want to keep hosting EGS-related forums. On top of the aforementioned issues, however, I feel very separate from the forums (I stopped regularly visiting myself due to how distracting they were to me), and that itself is an issue.
I can’t afford to regularly monitor them myself, and while I have entrusted other people with that task, my absence is both necessary and a significant problem.
Looking over everything I’ve typed here, I think I’ve already made my decision about whether I should continue linking to it. I’m not thrilled about it, but I think it’s a decision that’s overdue.
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>>1048412
so the forms are down
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>no more freckles
This saddens me.
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>>1048018
true.
it'd be hilarious if we find out that there's like millions of immortals just going around invisible everywhere all the time
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>>1048461
I really hope there ends up being a way to expose hidden immortals at some point. They're too damn cocky. I bet lord Tedd knows how.
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>>1048437
Look on the bright side, Rhoda can arbitrarily go frecklemode now. Or potentially do it to anyone else.
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So, one of the writefags on AO3 is doing a truth-or-dare kind of thing with the main cast and is asking readers to send in questions.

I feel like this is either a misstep, or something glorious in the making.
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>>1050964
>AO3
there's 14 fics for el goonish shive, but they aren't about truth or dare.
But do we care more about the truths (which are clearly in the comic) or about the entertainment of the dares we can put them through?
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>>1051156
Probably would be best to invent awkward truths that don't conflict with the story, but only imply them so they fall to the dares. Also you could probably work in various unsaid crushes.

Might be better to change the game, some mix of dares and random transformations maybe.
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>>1050964
Truth or dare would be serious business with an Immortal playing. You could learn some terrible truths, and become subject to world shattering dares. Kind of like episode 6 of No Game, No Life.
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>>1054700
For some reason all I can imagine happening when immortals get together is joking about other peoples sex lives.
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>>1051156
The anon was right, actually. It's the two latest chapters of "Silly Sexy One Shots", the title of which is now less than accurate.

...and I do need more dares/truths/etc. So feel free to lob some in my direction.
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>>1056355

Ellen: Do you ever masturbate while in the same room with Elliot?

Oh, you'd rather Dare?

Eat Fox out until she cums, now. In front of everybody.

--

Susan: Have your fairy dolls ever helped you to achieve an orgasm?

Oh, you'd rather Dare?

Summon two of your fairy dolls (one must be Nanse) and have them 69 each other to orgasm. While in flight. You have to undress them to get them ready.

--

Grace: Have you ever had sex with Ted while he's morphed into an exact duplicate of yourself? Which form?

Oh, you'd rather Dare?

Strip. Now. Completely. For the entire remainder of the game.
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>>1057255
Yeah but on that last one, Grace would just be like "Ok, sure" and just sit around naked. It wouldn't be embarrassing for her at all
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>>1057255
>>1057294
Yeah, Grace doesn't actually have a Nudity Taboo to infringe. Granted, that does mean it could make for interesting reactions from the rest of the characters, but it might still be better to give that Dare to another character.

Maybe something involving her shape-shifting abilities... possibly doppelganger related? "Assume the appearance of Sarah, and then proceed to seduce her while roleplaying as her to the best of your abilities", or something else of that nature?
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>>1057294
>Grace would just be like "Ok, sure"

And, your point being ..?

> just sit around naked. It wouldn't be embarrassing for her at all

I'm not sure I get what you're getting at here.

Also, I've never really been under the impression that Grace ever 'just sits around.' Ever.


>>1058836
> make for interesting reactions from the rest

This Guy Gets It. Setting Grace up with that Dare in the first round isn't really about Grace ..... Long fun game of many rounds is yet to follow.
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>>1058944
She fidgets. Endlessly. Squirrel DNA, you know.
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really dont know why we dont see more of this. its got something for everyone from furfags to plain fags. straight homo furry futa harem clone incest bestiality all that. happy to have found this because grace titties.
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I had an idea for a SusanxTedxGrace story or comic once.
>Grace blowing Ted
>suggests something new.
>blindfolds and ties Ted to the bed, hands and feet.
>Susan was hiding in closet and comes out.
>grace tells Ted that "someone who likes him and is shy" asked for some help.
>Susan blows Ted and swallows
>Rides him in cowgirl while Grace sits on his face

Yeah, it's cribbed from an old as fuck manga, but fuck it, the premise works.
>And the comic NEVER had a goddamn legitimate 3-way...nothing but the same two girls fucking over and over again except the one being screwed while the other watched. Bullshit.
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>>1057255
Have to be male form, since Grace is hetero-oid, and Tedd is weirded out by sexing dudes while in chick mode.
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>>1060278

Start here and read, carefully,

http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=794

through:

http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=800

Grace is not bisexual, according to her ... but she very clearly will get intimate with someone she's attracted to no matter what gender she is or what gender the other person is.

I think Dan got a bit too cute about the use of the word "bisexual," at least as it's commonly used in English. If Grace was going to use a word, it might be something like "pansexual," where she's able to enjoy sexual intimacy with another person, regardless of their physical gender.

While Dan had her say she's "not bisexual" in that sequence. by all practical use of the term in our culture & language, she is, in fact, "multisexual," or bisexual, as context occurs.

tl;dr -- Grace bangs girl Ted while she she's a she and, pretty clearly, they have engaged in hot lesbian sex prior to that particular conversation.


I don't think, upon reflection, that >>1057255 Truth to Grace should be phrased exactly like a Yes or No question ... it should be more along the line of "Grace, describe the hottest lesbian sex you've had with Ted, especially what forms you were each in."

Same should apply to "Ellen: describe your hottest masturbation session while Elliot was in the same room with you." Because, for fuck's sake, you already know they both have. They just pretend they haven't noticed each other doing it. Probably.

We're just trying to get the details out of them.
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Patreon has a survey for who to give the tea+pretzel treatment. I'm hype.
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>>1060907
>she's able to enjoy sexual intimacy with another person, regardless of their physical gender.
That sequence is what I was referring to. She tends to be attracted to people the opposite of her current sex in her sudoers file. Hetero-oid. What you claim doesn't match the evidence you site.
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>>1061175
I don't recall her being hetero in any sense, I'm not sure what he's talking about there. Being attracted to his masculine mind regardless of form? Not caring about the physical is all I get from her.
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>>1060907
>>1061175
>>1061217
I think the tumblry term is "demisexual".
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>>1061270
I think it's pansexual.
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>>1061324
No demi is the better fit
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>>1057294
Maybe? She was like that before knowing nudity was linked to sex, but maybe she's still that comfortable with friends?
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Next chapter of Truth or HORRIBLE CONSEQUENCES should be up tonight. Feel free to lob more questions/dares this way, they're awesome springboards.
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>>1061217
>>1061175
Panels two and three. Did you just skip over that part because you can't wank to it?
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>>1062306
I might be retarded
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>>1061863
Where is it posted?

If you still want ideas:
Tedd -
Truth: Did you design female v5 to enjoy giving blow jobs?
Dare: Zap yourself so we can watch you deep throat this banana/popsicle
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>>1063185
Questions that'd come sooner are simple queries as to virginity, followed immediately by asking Tedd and/or Grace what genders they've gone it as.
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>>1064371
I was thinking Ellen could ask Tedd about increasingly sexy things about V5 since she's permanently living with the effects.

Of course Tedd would probably be perfectly happy to give detailed answers about stuff like that as long as it was abstract.

Then Ellen could zap Tedd and feed her a popsicle.
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*low whistle*
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>>1063185
An Archive of our Own. Section is El Goonish Shive. Title is "Silly Sexy EGS One Shots." And I will want people to throw ideas at me as long as I'm doing this fic, which will last until the Sergeant Major comes in and declares that it's gotten too silly.

>>1065397
...Nice. I can work with that.

>>1065798
Why is it that I love the idea of Heidi and Carol being involved in a romance angle? Not Elliot, just his alter ego.
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>>1066358
I just looked up and read SSEOS today, and I just want more, especially of Truth or HORRIBLE CONSEQUENCES!
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>>1065798
Once again I wish he drew more hardcore stuff.
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>>1066358
>>1065798

I've been waiting a long, long time now for Heidi and Ashley to go on A Hyperactive Spastastic Adventure. Don't really care if they get lethally caffeinated and rampage the local library, or get lethally caffeinated and rampage a mega sex toy shop.

We're sort of getting this currently in NPS with Cat and Rhoda's Excellent Adventure at the Mall.

But, really. Pull out all the stops and let Heidi lead Ashley astray, and Ashley egg Heidi on. Full dork mode, full-on r34, or all of the above. It just needs to happen.
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>>1065798

I think we might assume that Ashley is the camerawoman for this scene. Personally, I doubt she will remain behind the camera for long.
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>>1066530
Heidi + Ashley + Magic Tea
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>>1066818
and/or shrink soda
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>>1066358
My input for SSEOS, TOHC:

Truth: (For anyone) Who was the last person, outside of family or significant other(s), who saw you fully nude?

Dare: Use one of the dynamic height-change watches to adjust your height however you choose, and deal with however your clothes end up fitting (don't remove anything!) until it wears off or another dare makes you put on or take off clothes. (Maybe this was one of Tedd's?)
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>>1068010
And catgirl form, and catnip
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EGS is pretty great but it sufferes from sameface
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>>1066514
Meh, hardcore is too easy. Let the lesbians simmer for a while to bring out the flavor.
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>>1068179
Can't tell if constructive artwork criticism or joke about how a few of the characters are magic clones, shapshifters, related and other crazy stuff.
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>>1070264
Constructive criticism
Other than head shapes and noses, there's no real change between the faces.
Might just be the artstyle, though
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>>1070931
Yeah I think so. There are differences in the faces but they come across really subtly,theres clearly some effort made.
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>>1070974
Also, quite a few of the non-clones are blood related anyway. Tedd explicitly has Nanase's eyes.
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>>1070997
Actually that's how Dan drawn Asian eyes. Nanase's mom and sister have eyes like that, and Tedd's mom probably does. (We haven't seen her face.)
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>>1071368

I'm not sure those are the best examples, Nanase's sister is also Ted's cousin.
Her mother is even more closely related to Ted than she is.
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>>1071593
Ok, fine. *Ashley*.
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This is from August, 2002. When did the MegaMilk meme start?
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>>1074372
A lot later
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>>1075118
Should have been a slightly buff woman
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>>1075126
>buff woman
When you make a pass at her she gives you a suplex.
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and in other news: KITTY RHODA :D
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>>1077342
I badly want to see that last panel in color.
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>>1077342

It's explosioning catgirls in the mall! Rhoda and Cat catgirls!

Oh, Glee! What a Merry Christmas to me!

> (closest pic related I've got on hand, which should totally be canon)
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>>1077538
that's actually not that far off thematically from the pinup Dan just posted.

<--
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>>1079088 Forgot to add, Dan wrote a mini-fic for that one, too.

--

Susan has always had issues with physical contact, but she wanted to work on becoming more comfortable with it.

Knowing this, Sarah had a proposition for Susan. She would allow Susan to practice touching her in any way she wants while Sarah remain passive, giving Susan complete control and freedom over the situation. Sarah would, of course, have the option to end the practice session any time she wanted to.

It began slowly, with Susan simply, and hesitantly, touching Sarah's arm. As time went on, however, Susan moved on to reaching under Sarah's shirt to feel her belly, and before she knew it, she was removing clothing to better feel the skin undeneath.

At no point did Sarah object. With each bit of escalation, she only smiled more, delighted with what was happening, and what was to follow as Susan became even more adventurous...
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I've spent more than a couple idle hours speculating on Susan's sexuality(what EGS fan hasn't? duh.) I doubt if she's even fully aware of what she wants. Two turning points (in mind) were Grace's birthday party when she was a boy and experimented a bit with girl-Justin. Then she imagined what a date with Cat might have been like, and regretted not doing it.

Then Dan trolls us with these >>1079088 >>1079100 >>1077538

If this part of the story ever gets explicitly told, I think Susan will end up being slightly more lesbian than bi, but probably still somewhat bi. There was that point where she was trying to imagine if she might be interested in Elliot, as a guy, and she just couldn't make up her mind. In my mind, that was a further tell. If she was really feeling her sexuality and feeling strongly hetero, I'm not convinced she would have backed off the Elliot option so quickly, even with relief. It was like she'd found a good excuse to stay in her closet at that point.

But, who knows. Dan may surprise us.

Sarah being very bi has been a surprising, and cute, development. I wasn't entirely expecting that from her. But now that that train has been set in motion, I'm really interested to see how her date with Sam goes. Just sad that it's clearly going to be a good bit of time before we see that, if we ever get to see it in any detail.

If Dan is really going to do a reasonably in-depth arc on Sarah & Sam getting into a relationship, I'm going to be a very happy fan. It could be THE sleeper relationship of the entire comic, if done right.
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>>1079674
There's still that hanging plot thread with whatshisname who was into her - Matt? She won't likely be settling on relationships before that gets thrown back into the works. I get the feeling he'll just instigate something else, though.

On a similar note, Diane / Elliott is going to be an issue before too long... Or he'll sit on it forever maybe. I can only hope it'll end in Elliott x Ashley x Diane as an item.
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>>1079770
Personally, I'd like to see Diane/Sam. Yes, He of the Many Pockets that Does Not Have A Penis Yet.
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>>1079088
I like to think Susan took off the rest of Sarah's clothes and started fingering Sarah and Sarah just sat their not-resisting and enjoying the feeling of being used and not fighting against it until she came all of Susan's hand.
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>>1080758
Yo, egs-edits, get on this.
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>>1080964
I don't see them getting all up in such details. Best we get is a nude edit with improbably robust nipples.
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>>1081056
I rather like how EGS-Edits does nipples. That said, if we could get an editor who is willing to work with other details (like, oh, say, DICKS) it'd be greatly appreciated.
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>>1080758
From Paheal. Not perfect, but not bad.
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>>1081160
The edits are appreciated, but we haven't seen any new actual drawn porn for forever.
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>>1081186
So - are we in agreement, /aco/lytes? Shall we commission during January, or draw what we're able to?
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>>1079100
>but she wanted to work on becoming more comfortable with it.
She has also wanted to explore her potential to be a lesbian with someone she considers a friend, but the opportunity hasn't arisen yet. Do not leave out crucial details.
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>>1081163
Sarah's tits are nice, but I think Susan might show a bit of nipple from that angle? Also, the buttcrack and vag look super lazy.
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>>1080580
Sam is going to be sooo happy when he meets Tedd and learns what he can do. Especially now that he can alter base forms.
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>>959367
Oglaf was good early on, but it has devolved into pornographic Dadaism.
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>>1084852
To be fair, it's pretty good pornographic dadaism. But supposedly the "main" character will see a return with a semblance of a plot, eventually.
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>>1084635
I've been under the assumption that helping transgender people was on the top of the reasons why Tedd wanted to give everyone magic despite him not exactly being trans.

He probably remembers the euphoria and just plain rightness he felt when he first turned into a girl. I bet he wants to make sure that everyone can feel that who was in a similar situation to him.
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>>1081868
That's a good question. I sent a email to Dan Shive back in November. He responded:
"I'm not currently accepting commissions at this time. I might someday, but not at the moment."
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>>1081186
I can draw some porn or other pin ups if you guys want.

The catch?

Only with TGed guys, because this is my thing.

Who would you like? Doing what? With who?
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>>1081868
>adding dicks

Fuck no.
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>>1087568
馬鹿
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>>1087549
Tedd x Elliot as lesbians
please friend I have a thirst
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>>1087549
Unless you ONLY want TG'ed dudes, I'd like to see Fem!Elliot forcefully fucking Ted way back before the Diamond arc, and blaming it on the pheromones.
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>>1079088
>>1081163
Okay, I know that the idea that Dan also does EGS-edits has been talked around a lot, but look at these two pictures. Specifically, look at Sarah's right "V-line" (not totally sure what it's called for women).

Can someone more experienced than me in Photoshop say whether this line is indicative of the nude drawing being made from a layer without clothes, or if it still looks like it came from the one with panties on?
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>>925336
i alway try and start this comic...but it sucks early.

Is there a good place to start after it gets good?
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>>1087549
Girl Tedd sucking on stuff!

Or you can never go wrong with money shots.
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>>1088834
It seems like it might be possible that Dan does egs-edits, but he may also just provide the guy that does with source files from the comic/pinups.

Either way, edits' edits are (generally) pretty damn good.
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>>1087549
I'd love to see Elliotts alts getting up to mischief, whether by being more in control for some reason or splitting off somehow. A possibily yandere version of Elliotts mild mannered persona lewding on Justin could be interesting.
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>>1089565
Maybe Elliot gets a spell that allows him to externalize the aspect(s) of his personality, in forms similar to fairy dolls? (Much like the rainbow illusion thing did for Nanase.)
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>>1090626
And given how often he reads his spellbook, he'd probably have no idea there were running around.
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>>1087540
I meant commission from non-Dan sources. Planetofjunk and the like. Drawfags that have inexpensive commissions.

>>1087549
I'm going to say Girl-Tedd and Elliot. Or Girl-Elliot and Noah, just because I think the universe needs more Noah smut.
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