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>>1346732
Man, it just remebered me that I still have to do that V5 of Tedd's dad.

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I'm only noticing one background change today.
But I'm really digging this 20-roll.

>>1346761
That would be frigging amazing.

>>1346761
>Edward with no beard
Hmm. I guess bushy yet sexy eyebrows should do the job.

>>1348498
OK, that's hot.

>>1348498
I dont get it.

>>1349306
>Grace wants to transform for fun
>Asks the geek to roll a d20, both as a distraction and to determine the degree of change she will go for
>Natural 20, make a large a change as she can and is left winded for her efforts

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>>1348498

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...yes. YES.

>>1349810
Niiice

>>1350511
Elliot's girl forms are seriously some of the most enticing characters in this series, god DAMN.

>>1350511
i wish they would just fuck already

>>1350796

That's sort of the incestuous event horizon isn't it?

>>1352309
It'll never happen in the comic. It'll totes happen in fanfic.

Also Dan just confirmed that GOONMANJI 2 IS HAPPENING.

>>1352309
No, that occurs with time travel sex change self impregnation, like in that one story.

>>1346727
isn't that the artist with the armless waifu?

>>1352622
I don't recall that one. There was the story of reverse gender illegal clone hookup, which kinda fits.

>>1352622
Wicked Lasers?

>>1352309
I wouldn't call it incest. I would consider fucking your female clone masturbation.

Ive been following this comic pertnear 15 fucking years now off and on. Either Dan or his characters need to stop being so fucken prudish. He's been writing a PG-13 fetish comic for no reason this whole time and self censoring for what? Ted needs to figure out if he likes having a clam or if he wants Graces clam or both. 15 years man, just have Ted ride the Elliot express and decide already.

>>1352681
>>1352755
It's kind of a spoiler for the story, but it's [spoiler]'—All You Zombies—' by Robert Heinlein[/spoiler]

>>1353770
No, not the one I meant. It was sci-fi but not time travel. Actually saying clonecest is a major spoiler for it, but the work was apparently called The Phantom of Kansas, by John Varley if you are interested. The clone thing isn't time travel, but human backup based. Also notable for featuring artificial weather as an art form.

>>1353770
Love that story.

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>>1348498
panel 3 Grace just might be my favorite thing

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>>1355345
Should have started with the HD version.

>>1355345
Theres no aspect of that transformation that I like more than what she started as.

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>>1357005

>>1353065
I actually stopped reading this a long time ago. Are Ellen and Nanase still a thing?

>>1353065
Pretty obvious that Tedd wants to fuck Elliot

>>1358992
Yep they're pretty solid.

>>1358959
Much nicer looking

Does anyone else remember this thing? https://pastebin.com/eQfyJxyu
Whatever happened to that guy

>>1353065
Dan *has* been slowly getting more lewd, but just as with the pacing of the comic it's gonna take a while.
At one point Dan stated that he had created a tumblr for explicit content, but that he don't know when or if he'll start using it.

>>1361514
>https://pastebin.com/eQfyJxyu
That's me! :D
Sorry, I got sidetracked by a major project. I'll put up the update on the script-so-far in a while.

>>1361514
http://egspinups.tumblr.com

>>1361942
That's the one for pinups, which he uses.
Dan was talking about one for *explicit* content.

>>1361960
Oh, sorry

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and about a year later we finally get to see what spell resulted from eliott "hey I like being a cute girl" aesop
I'm just an anon amongst many so you can't tell that I never hype anything but I've been waiting for this more than any of the other plot advancement.

>>1362409
Well I mean... it has been a fucking year since that extremely obvious plot point. And unlike most of the dangling threads in this comic, this one was obviously going to become relevant "Soon".

>>1353065
He doesn't need to decide on just one. They can both switch at will now.

>>1363558
they should both use hermaphrodite forms

>>1365354
I don't think they have that programmed at all yet, and would probably be difficult to create if I understand how it's coding method works. They'd need to find an actual hermaphrodite and scan them.

>>1365755
Grace can do non-humans. Hit her w/ a few animals that are functional hermaphrodites, and let her do some experimentation. She'll come up w/ a few human variants w/ functional junk to record. Way more flexible than trying to design everything in Java or whatever.

>>1366206
>implying Tedd doesn't use a user-friendly GUI written in brainfuck for the irony

>>1366206
While perhaps the penis fencing might be briefly amusing, none of the actual species of hermaphrodites are actually sexy in any way. Closest you'll get is the hyena setup.

Given that some herms are just known for shifting from one gender to the other, technically she already counts as one.

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>>1367009
>Implying you can write anything in brainfuck
Also, I think we're about to hit the "Elliot is kind of Genderfluid" conversation.

>>1367009
There was an entire flashback arc centering around how Tedd's TF gun only still exists due to a loophole in intergalactic law that normally forbids the development of tookits for OO languages in privately owned TF guns. He's squeezing as much functionality as he can out of something like very old GTK+1 binaries with like 7 years worth of spaghetti code.

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>>1367204
>none of the actual species of hermaphrodites are actually sexy in any way.
Read that back to yourself a few times.

>>1367345
Well, now he has a cute Asian girlfriend who's into it. Elliot's desire to please others is maximum. If he suddenly had a major conflict between say Sarah and Tedd, I could see him splitting into two people so that he could somehow appease both of them, or fight himself so they didn't have to fight eachother, or somesuch.

>>1367534
Most of the "both at once" species are invertebrates. I'd sooner find a tree sexy than a snail (plants are also hermaphrodites).

>>1367345
This strip says that he's still convincing himself that he has to be female for his own good, and not admitting to himself that he just likes being a chick. The acceptance of the superhero for was progress but he needs to be more honest with himself.

>>1367204
There are a very few functional human hermaphrodites.

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>>1367527
Well, *presumably* his gun has modern programming, otherwise it wouldn't have been smuggled to earth.

>>1367345
I think he's gender-"meh". Like, he has fun being female, but doesn't feel dysphoria as a male or female, unlike Tedd who gets uncomfortable sometimes.

>>1365755
I don't think that stuff needs to be scanned, I mean, Tedd can program all kinds of stuff and I don't think every little thing was scanned from someone.

>>1367685
Nah, his first TF gun was very old when he received it, and it wasn't smuggled. It was marginally legal for those aliens to own it. He had possession of it to provide a maintenance service by adding local lifeforms to it's database, something no regular company would do because of the legal grey area. Remember that Mr. Verres is an MiB. He would have turned them in rather than let Tedd play w/ the gun if it was illegal. They genuinely needed a private technician to add functionality to their proprietary device who was not afraid of the galactic gestapo, and Tedd volunteered.

>>1367721
I would think that aliens with space ships are probably way ahead of us on programming, so some old OO for them might be very modern for us.

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>>1367741
No more than their natural language would seem "modern". It was designed by fringe enthusiasts from a planet where almost everything is written in space-Perl, and it literally uses magic. We only really know that it has a notion of composite data types and syntactic candy to support associating subroutines w/ those types. It might otherwise be very strange, like lacking looping constructs or even native arithmetic operations on primitive types, for instance.

>>1367685
"Gender-meh" is best gender identity.

>>1367345
gaaaaay

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>>1368084
I agree wholeheartedly!

Also, I know this is just a midpoint in a transformation, but I love this character design.

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BONUS GRACE! Needs a nude edit stat.

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>>1367876
It *was* written in some kind of OO language at least, and it was made before those laws. I also don't think almost everything is written in space perl, the comic only implies that the ban is only on using OO in morphing devices, not necessarily elsewhere.

>>1369006
this is a 10/10 megane
the slightly grey hair, the hairstyle, the way half frames makes it look like she has tired eyes, the face shape, the neglected but normal attire, the wide but not fat shape.

>>1369828
So why is the halfway point between Mild Mannered and Mall Elliot basically the love child of Susan and Sarah?

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New comic!

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Dammit, Grace. Not that some of us ain't into that but still.

Also,
>here's your change
Kek.

>>1372424
Yung'uns these days simply don't know how to appreciate a good DFC.

Which is better, Susan/Diane or Tedd/Nanase?

>>1372433
Well when you're a kid that's the default of fellow kids, so it ain't going to be as interesting.

>>1372493
I'm not really feeling either. Maybe Susan/Diane if you put a guy between them.

>>1372031
Why are there no cis/het dudes in this webcomic

>>1373323
Because Sara was the most boring and pointless character for most of the run. She's only gotten better now that she's getting a fetish for fetishes. A pure normal guy would be boring as hell. But also, Greg, slimeball from early on in the series, Ashley's Ex, Raven probably, Mr. Tensaided, Mr. Verres.

>>1372424

I can't be the only one who thinks Ducky is cute. I want to see more of him.

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>>1369026
Looks like you got your wish

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>>1373450
Duck is a delight. I've loved him ever since the "X-men has taught me better than that" comic.

>>1373634
>Susan will never try and get over her issues with physical contact by curiously and sensually caressing your skin
Life is never-ending pain.

>>1374286
It is what it is.
This needs to be a fanfic, though.

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>>1367534

Anybody else think that the fact that it's his new girlfriend's fetish might be a non-zero factor in some of Elliot's sudden attachment to all his female forms?

>>1373633

I just have to say, this is HILARIOUS.

Mostly because it makes perfect sense. I know that I've done it to a gf with a normal phone during sex.

>>1376444
The breakthrough was the superhero form acceptance, where he also admitted to himself to liking being cute. He's probably still nervous about the Ashley angle there.

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>>1369667
You don't know the history of Perl, or what an Object is. I guess that's not necessary to enjoy the comic. Not like it makes a habit of making CS references. Only Grace Hopper comes to mind as another one.

>>1373450
>Tensaided
Is there evidence of that? He could be a schediaphile for all we know.

>>1377495
This is fair. We haven't seen any degree of attraction between Tensaided and anyone.

Not that I'd be opposed to such a thing.

is this comic the /aco/ version of Garfield?

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>>1377489
You're right, I don't know the history of Perl, but I would say I know what an Object is.
I really just don't see what point you're trying to make. Why is everything written in space-Perl? Why would software written a generation ago on a planet that has presumably had software engineering for hundreds of years be comparable to using Gtk+1?

I just don't follow.

>>1377680
Nah. We actually like EGS.

>>1377495
I accept your point.

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>>1373323
>Why are there no cis/het dudes in this webcomic

Honestly, I think that too much exposure with gender changing magic, lewd teasing, explicit fetish related conversations, mind changing devices and that literaly change your sexuality and so on.....literaly made any people who was more conventional adopt or develop something.

Basicaly, Tedd is contagious.

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Oh shit, I was wondering when something like this would show up.

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>>1380499

>>1380499
Hmmm. I'm worried. Comic books always try (and fail) to explain how the super characters' powers or inventions don't just radically change the world until the comic becomes an alt-world fantasy.

I suspect Dan's gonna fall into that trap here, meaning we'll get 10 pages of exposition on filling plotholes for every page of story content.

>>1380499
I hope he realizes that he just finds it arousing and isn't actually gay. I'd transform if I could, but I'm straight as all hell

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>>1380499
Oh boy, I hope this goes over okay.
It really is a big deal (that got hinted at during the card game). After so many years, it's good to see Shive addressing this... most comics with fun random transformation would not. But EGS has been evolving.

Meant to post Sam, but came across this one first.
Filename (from the Shive's site) relevant.

>>1381208
I'm
>>1381212
And I agree... Though I'm not sure why Elliot would ever be gay (ridiculous fanfics aside).
He's not even trans at all, he just enjoys transformation. That's totally cool. He knows he's not a girl, but he and his girlfriend get a kick from him taking that form for a while.

Obviously that's a little uncomfortable, but I think he'll be fine. Particularly with Ellen to advise him.

>>1381208
I'm pretty sure he knows that already.

>>1381212

>Turns out that Mr. Verres doesn't actually disapprove of him changing genders
>Ted just looks too much like his mom as a girl and it dredges up bad memories for his dad

>>1381340
I'd be okay with that.

>>1381222
Lesbians are neato.
The problem is usually as a man you can only watch (if you can).
You got first row tickets to the lesbian experience, assuming your transformation method doesn't adjust what you're attracted to, why wouldn't you? It's like people saying futa on girl is gay.

>>1380499
I didn't ask for these feels.

>>1381340
Headcanon: Integrated

>>1383033
Alternate headcanon: It stings for Mister V to see Tedd changing into a girl so often because he remembers the day he woke up and couldn't remember what it felt like to be a girl anymore.

>>1383629
If Tedd's Dad is really Tedd's Mom, then who is Tedd's Dad?

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>>1383955

Tedd's Dad. Obviously.

>>1383955
Tedd's Dad is Tedd's Dad, but he could have been Tedd's Mom if the change had happened a few years later.

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>>1383629

>>1381200
Remember that some kind of mind governs magic, and it doesn't want to be widespread.

I'm worried it may fuck with TF tech, too.

>>1383955
>>1384327
>>1384513
What if Elliot wasn't the first one to touch that diamond?

>>1384968
One of the chapters in Silly One Shots suggests that in the AF04verse, Tess was the one to touch the diamond, splitting off Tedd as her clone.

>>1383629
What if ted's dad is actually magic personified and he was more worried about how obvious Ted's changes are, not that they're gender changes specifically.

>>1385082
We're making Tedd's family tree more bullshit than Ellen's family tree now, aren't we?

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>>1380499
Here we go boys.

Does the dialogue here seem a little meta?

>>1386753
If anything it supports the "gender-meh" theory.

>>1386753
I honestly don't like the direction things have been going. I prefer the fun transformation comic, not the heavy gender issue one.

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In the commentary he accuses grace of trolling, but he knows damn well that he's troll extraordinaire.

>>1386837
Egs often moves from serious seriousness to fun transformation hijinks. I personally enjoy when Dan gets a little serious in egs.

>>1386837
People say this kind of subject ruins comics but even if you dislike every second of it, egs does a good job at going back to the usual once it's done

>>1386837
Well, EGS has always oscillated between wacky hijinks and more serious stuff.

I have an open request. Could someone with the time, inclination and ability make a nude edit of >>1375180 this pic? I've always wanted to see one, and egs-edits has expressed disinterest, saying that they're not into that sort of thing. (Which is perfectly fair, of course, we all have our preferences.) But I, on the other hand, *am* into this sort of thing.

>>1381208

I think Elliot may also be realizing that all this transformation stuff that he and his friends use for fun could make a lot of trans people really happy. Remember that Elliot has a bit of a Don Quixote thing. He can't see someone suffering and NOT want to help, and here Ellen could solve the messager's troubles with a literal wave of her hand.

>>1386837
>>1387299
>>1387309
>>1387511
>>1387751
Not to mention with the whole "Use Magic to help people" vs "Magic doesn't want to be common" thing now is definitely the time to bring this up.

Given the number of kinks Dan obviously has and acknowledges? I'm *shocked* that he either doesn't draw actual porn, or is REALLY good at hiding it.

>>1388012
There is NO WAY Dan hasn't drawn himself some porn, but he definitely strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't be eager to share it.

>>1388026
He did mention having a sketchbook which "will never see the light of a day" once.

>>1388086
>you may be able to see Dan release his dark sketchbook during your lifetime
He just needs one little push

>>1388943
Honestly I'd rather just be happy with egs-edits on tumblr. Dan's gone 15 years without a single truly lewd pic, he clearly doesn't want to share. At this point, if it was posted it was either without the guy's permission or through some serious coercion, and I don't think my conscious could accept either possibility.

>>1384864
The TF tech uses alien magic, though. It's on a different frequency or whatever. It's what keeps Grace from becoming a wizard.

>>1389102
He's actually mentioned the fact that he has a separate Tumblr, currently unused, for actually-NSFW stuff, and has been hinting that he might be using it soon for a pic that involves bare butts.

It's very likely going to happen, it's just a matter of 'when'.

Side note: Hiveworks has a new site design, and EGS has a new synopsis/tagline.

>>1386837
It can't possibly be about gender issues. Tedd has the ability to remove all gender issues forever w/ his magic technology. He would like to. His dad doesn't want him to. Other powerful forces are interested in mystical repercussions of him even trying, being for or against it. It's firmly in the realm of high fantasy.

>>1387610
Given that they're both constrained by the shirts, and one actually interacting with it, it'd look a bit harder than a simple edit. Might as well ask for fresh fourbreasted egs fanart.

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I think it'd be interesting and fitting if Elliot ends up deciding to be trans - or essentially, to have being a girl as her default form/identity. It makes me think especially of the issues around the breakup with Sarah - Elliot tends to go along with what other people want, is uncomfortable with introspection... I was doing some rereading and Nanase's line "Elliot means well, but he ignores his own needs and avoids making choices" stuck out to me. Elliot could feel innately more comfortable as a girl but not realize it just because (s)he's not "supposed" to and until now didn't know that was a thing. Not to mention it was pretty easy to ignore the issue when Elliot had to spend significant amounts of time as a girl without it being his choice.

Also I can see some potential for fun here. Elliot doesn't have a "standard" female form, so what would she choose to make her new default? Especially if she wants to avoid just looking exactly like Ellen.

Obviously I don't know what Dan's gonna go for, I just think it'd be neat and fit with what's come before.

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Most recent update seems to confirm the gender-meh standpoint. And Shive put a link in there called "Boy, Girl, Whatevs", so it's about as confirmed as it gets.

Also of note, getting TF'd in this verse also makes it that your orientations are changed appropriately, I think. I'm too lazy to recheck the TG party arc from a million years ago.

Also contributing unrelated picture from the previous thread.

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>>1389617

>>1389727
And the commentary confirms that even if the gun didn't compensate for anything mentally, Elliot would still be completely comfortable in either gender.

I have my doubts that it's realistic, but sure why not.

>>1389757

Elliot doesn't like change, this is his new status quo and he just got used to it and learned to enjoy it.

Elliot wasn't upset at being transformed into a girl, he was upset that being transformed into a girl was going to disrupt his life.

Ironically he wants to keep being able to turn into a girl because it's now his "normal" and he's freaking out because his "normal" is being threatened again.

>>1389484
That would make Ellen's creation even more of an accident. And her "still one of the guys" line before the nose boop confusing. Elliot is a guy who's more comfortable being a girl than he thought he'd be, but still very attached to his manhood.

>>1389795
Huh, I think you're right. Well put

>>1389795
I think you've hit the nail on the head. Elliot can adapt pretty well to new situations, even if he doesn't want them to happen at first, but when said situations are in danger of ending, it's exactly the same as the beginning.

>>1389484
I mean, Blond Ellen seems to be his new default.

>>1389617
>Also of note, getting TF'd in this verse also makes it that your orientations are changed appropriately, I think. I'm too lazy to recheck the TG party arc from a million years ago.

As I understand that's something Tedd/The Uroyums(?) programmed into the TF gun, which the majority of trans trnsformation in EGS comes from.

In other words, that's Tedd's doing, not something innate to transformation.

>>1390203
Didn't Elliot's magic start from when he touched the Dewitchery Diamond? Wouldn't that make his magic still connected to the tf gun? All his other girl forms come with preprogrammed personalities, so that's consistent with Tedd's tf gun.

>>1390274
The tf gun served as the first basis of his magic, but magic quickly does whatever the hell it wants. If the gun didn't adequately compensate the mind of the target, a spell gained from getting hit by it would probably not have the same problem.

>>1390274
Only his first spell from before he improperly awakened the fv5 form and even then, it's normal magic mimicking the programming of the tf gun so he'd still need magic energy to use it.

>>1390274
He had the Tamashi Gekido before that.

>>1389757
Can this be the establishing moment of a new gender identity of 'Swapper?'

It'd be great. Even the non-magically inclined, stupidly wealthy could get in on it with compulsive sex change operations, in the same vein as that one woman who's had like 30 breast enhancement operations.

"Swapper: to identify as the gender you are not."

>>1386860
oh my sweet Grace, you used to be so innocent regarding nudity and now you get your jollies by prancing around tits out at work

>>1394576
And all it took was what, a year?

>>1394576
She isn't ignorant of it, just comfortable with it herself, while being aware of how it effects others. Perfect recipe for trolling. She's still as "pure" as ever, just better informed.

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>Elliot is low-key a little gay too
>and he has a thing for noah

>>1396889
Having a thing for Noah has nothing to do with being gay

At least I keep telling myself that

>>1396889

>Somewhere Justin feels a sudden surge of hope, and then an equally swift and mysterious crushing disappointment

>>1396889
Oh good, another character who is gender fluid and showing some bisexual tendencies. Just what the story needed.

:I

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>>1397796
>Bitching about gender shifting
>Comic uses gender shifting as a frequent fetish fuel/plot point
>Foreshadowing of this goes back a decade

Really?

Just... really?

I, for one, enthusiastically embrace this, because it means we're one step closer to CONVOLUTED RELATIONSHIP POLYGONS.

>>1397796
If you want you can blame the TF gun

>>1397796
Why are you even here?

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>>1397796
>he literally says not like Tedd

>>1353065
One reason I've stuck with EGS for so long is the actual character development. Pacing is slow (fifteen years later and we've barely covered a year and a half, including a six month time skip) but the characters have grown and matured. For example, seeing Elliot become self aware and introspective alone has been rewarding. There's also the continual improvement of the storytelling and the art. Dan just keeps getting better. He's all but admitted to a Grace/Tedd/Sara being cannon at this point, and things point strongly towards an Susan/Elliot/Ashley thing happening in the future. (Susan likes to watch)

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>>1396931
Exactly, he just likes traps.
Bisexual myself, so IDK, but being attracted to girly people never seemed gay to me. I guess there's a scale or something, which wouldn't even cover this, and also who cares

The real question is whether he's attracted to Tedd. My guess is no, they're good friends. Their relationships in other universes could have been like the relationship with Susan: He just likes a person as a friend, but fills the role they want him to because that's his main personality trait.

Wow, he's incredibly submissive actually. In a nice non-stereotypical way where he's powerful and active. But still defines his happiness by his friends'.

NP: I keep feeling like 3rd panel Grace will slowly turn her head at the camera. It's creeping me out.

>>1376444
Possibly. But there's also the aspect of being able to assume a whole new identity. The fact that he regularly uses blonde hair for his default "Ellen" form and has talked about coming up with a name and backstory for her shows that he enjoys the idea of using his powers to assume different identities. Also, calling it now, Elliot will probably go into law enforcement with the FBI supernatural division. In addition to superhero powers, he can basically assume ANY female form he wants to. And he likes protecting people.

>>1381200
He's already explained it. If magic becomes too well known, the whole system resets. Everyone loses magic until a select few people figure out how it works again. By that point everyone believes tales tales of magic from the past are just myths and legend. Too many people start using magic to deal with transgender issues? Blammo, magic don't work no more. As it is, things are on the razors edge of a full reset.

>>1399776
I've been following EGS off and on since before Damien died, and this anon hit the nail on the head. Everything about the comic has been improving save for the pacing, which I can let slide because it's a great read anyways.

>>1380499
it was bound to happen eventually. While Tedd was acting on suppressed identity issues, the gang has been using the TF gun and magic to casually swap gender as well as species at will. None of them were really aware of transgenderism. My basic theory was that Elliot was pretty much gender neutral since Ellen showed up and never experienced body dysmorphia. I like that Dan has the gang becoming aware that there are people out there who could benefit from what they know, and that sharing that knowledge would make it inaccessible to everyone.

>>1386837
Dan's not abandoning the fun. Grace is over in a non cannon storyline transforming to mess with people.

>>1387299
"Painted Black" anyone? Dan likes his silly, but can go super serious when he wants to.

>>1388012
Yeah, he draws porn. He just doesn't share. EGS remains a PG13 fetish comic. And I honestly like it that way.

>>1388086
Oh, you know he's done Elliot on Ellen porn. He's hinted at it before. He's just set boundaries for lines he won't cross in the actual comic.

>>1389484
Elliot has become more introspective of late. Ellen got a huge head start on him. First by effectively being a guy permanently in a girl's body, and than by having eighteen years of memories dumped into her brain. She was able to look at things from an outsiders perspective. Meanwhile Elliot basically had to grow into being introspective. Despite what Ellen thinks, it's not surprising that he is becoming introspective. He's basically Ellen without eighteen years of memories and the experience of having to reinvent herself. He was always going to get there. It was just going to take him a little longer is all.

>>1390274
Sensi Greg's Anime Martial Arts gave him the beginnings of his magic ability. They basically made him a sleeper. The Dewichery Diamond locked in his Ellen form as well as his cat boy form, which he hasn't used in ages. Because changing sucks, apparently. That set him up for an improper awakening. Prior to Cheerleadra cat boy was his most powerful form. Cheerleadra has taken a hit and survived (barely) that would have killed Noah. So Cheer probaly isn't Nanase in Angel form, but Cheerleadra is probaly second to Grace in badassery of the main group.

>>1397796
He's not gender fluid. He just doesn't care. He only objected to HAVING to change because it was a pain in the ass.

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>>1399798
>My guess is no, they're good friends.
Tedd clearly is pushing some of Elliots buttons, even if he doesn't really see it himself. He thought he was cute even before Ellen was created. Him turning into girls is more than just icing on the cake, it's a whole extra cake.

>>1399832
It might not even be that straightforward, Dan has said something to the effect of magic doing things later that are weird and crazy. The new normal could be something where knowledge of magic is actually common, and some aspects are important in day to day life but real use and utility is hard to come by regardless of what is known about it.

In any case, magic changing is too much a plot point not to eventually happen, and gender flipping is too much a theme (and Dans fetish) to be in any danger of going away. There'll be some sort of compromise.

>>1399924

How long do you think it will be before someone, in the comic, points out that Ashley is basically a Tedd that Elliot feels comfortable being romantically involved with?

Lets look at Elliots relationship history:

> First girlfriend is Nanase, Tedd's cousin. Falls apart because she ends up being a lesbian, but Ellen taps that when she shows up anyway.
> Sarah: the safe option that never goes anywhere because Elliot has no initiative in that relationship.
> Ashley. the new half-asian girl with a TF fetish that Elliot feels more comfortable dating after the very dream in the page you posted

Ashley is just Tedd if he was born female and never got the TF Gun. Just like Nanase was, back in the day, a female standin for Tedd who looked like him that didn't work out.

Elliot has basically been dancing around the realization that he wants to fuck Tedd for years.

>>1399867
I got the impression that he considers "Painted Back" something of a mistake, an edgy teen's idea of mature. I suspect >>1380499 is more the current face of serious EGS than a genocidal Darth Maul with a God complex and some nice hair.

>>1399798
>Their relationships in other universes could have been like the relationship with Susan: He just likes a person as a friend, but fills the role they want him to because that's his main personality trait.

I think the review clips we got are there to imply that there is real chemistry.

>>1400504
Pretty much!

>>1400168
OH fuck yes. Go back and look at the TF birthday party. Lots of uncomfortable Elliot/Tedd moments. Plus there's the fact that in EVERY OTHER REALITY WHERE THEY'RE COMPATIBLE, THEY'RE A COUPLE.

Tedd/Elliot is likely endgame. Massive polyamorous puppy pile is BEST endgame.

>>1397796

So when I was a young impressionable lad of my early teens this I stumbled upon an "El Goonish Shive" Wiki while stumbling around the results for "Pokemon" on google.

I, of course, found the webcomic and read it all over the course of about a week.

I gained a lot of things from that experience; an interest in webcomics, a simulated friend group for my lonely pubescent ass, probably a handful of new fetishes.

But I also get a (fictional) face to homosexuality, something I knew very little about. That exposure gave me something to chew on, and I think that I may have been a much more hateful and bigoted person today without it.

Almost a decade later, EGS is giving exposure to gender identity. Now, this all is nothing new to me, but I'd bet there's some confused kid stumbling upon this strange webcomic with the furries and the shapeshifting, and maybe this'll be a nice introduction to a compicated and strange topic that I myself have a hard time thinking about.

Elliot is in many ways a paragon of masculinity- big, strong, historically pugilistic. If he doesn't have to consider himself a man exclusively, what does that mean for the rest of us?

Something to chew on.

The length of the comic does make one question when and how much Shive loses a plot thread. He more likely forgets "where he was going with that", and distracts us with something rather than make a really satisfying conclusion. All the bad guys get away, all the time, too.
And really, Elliot and Ted is a mistake. Elliot's supposed to end up with Susan or Sarah.

>>1402788
What bad guys have escaped the crew so far besides Voltaire/Pandora? Sirleck hasn't gone face to face with them, Damien's dead, the stone wizard is in jail AND sealed, and most smalltime monsters they've run into have been imprisoned or destroyed.

>>>/lgbt/8266866

>>1397796
>>1398150

On one hand I feel like you need to establish that Tedd isn't genderfluid, but full trans(Even if closeted so you still get transformation stuff) to set the two apart. That you should show WHY they're different and not just say it.

But on the other hand it's pretty blatantly obvious Tedd's trans to everyone but Tedd and oddly enough perhaps Dan since he projects his own gender issues onto the character.

>>1402957
Trans sort of implies he wants to settle on one or the other. Tedd just gave a big speech about how he's afraid of losing the option to switch. And now so did Eliot.

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>>1400644
Kids don't read webcomics anymore. Only youtube and twitter. That is their whole world.

>>1402859
Voltare escapes. Pandora escapes and becomes a fairy godmother. Sirleck was going to "rain hell down on Moperville" but nothing ever happened. Noah turns out of be a friend of Mr Raven, so instead of a Normal adversary that can keep up with Team Magic he just wanders away and vanishes. The wizard guy gets turned into stone, in stasis, practically escapes. The griffon is befriended. Instead of more Fire Guys, or even explaining the mark on the creepy whacked out guy, that plot also just shrugs and another story begins. It seems as long as Shive can dazzle us with Grace, he isn't going to even try to wrap up every second storyline. He just starts the next one.

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>>1404585
Wtf are you smoking?
Voltaire has barely just been introduced, in in-comic time at least.

>sirleck
You mean the thing he said like, a few days ago?

Also, why the fuck does some mysterious people turning out to not be villains count as "bad guys escaping"??

>>1399845
Given the whole purpose of the tf gun, it wouldn't cause dysphoria anyway. That doesn't mean they'd be happy about it but they wouldn't feel physically out of place in their modified body. Remember, magics whole thing with transformations is that it works in the safest most convenient way possible, and even if the gun is mostly tech I don't see that being different.

>>1404585
Ya'll full of dumb ideas, mate. Also, creepy guys mark was given by Voltaire, he admitted to taking advantage of him to kill Elliot.

>>1404585
>Voltare escapes
Voltaire has just started

>Pandora... becomes a fairy godmother
Actually I wanna get back to that.

>Sirleck was going to "rain hell down on Moperville" but nothing ever happened
It's not like he's dead or anything.

>Noah turns out of be a friend of Mr Raven, so instead of a Normal adversary that can keep up with Team Magic he just wanders away and vanishes
>The griffon is befriended
Noah was never part of his own plot, he's basically just a secondary character. And the Griffons weren't a villain, they were an exposition tool and furthered the Voltaire plot

>Instead of more Fire Guys, or even explaining the mark on the creepy whacked out guy, that plot also just shrugs and another story begins
That was Voltaire. Did you read the part with Voltaire in the Verres' basement? Because if you did it's very clear that that is all part of the Voltaire plot.

>The wizard guy gets turned into stone, in stasis, practically escapes
...Because his arc and story relevance was over. He wants to kill Ellen because she was made by the Dewitchery Diamond. He has some cool fight scenes and then he's convinced not to kill Ellen. Story over. He's not some cartoon supervillain who just fights Those Darn Kids for whatever reason, what more do you want from him?

EGS' story is was and always will be one that progresses at a snail's pace. The characters, the worldbuilding, and the fetish stuff are the meat of the product, and the story is a bit more background.

We have Voltaire pulling strings, presumably with the goal of giving Immortals more power, Sirleck's plot is still just revving up, and the whole "Magic Changing" thing with the Gub'ment trying to make it happen and Pandora trying to stop it. If that all isn't immediate and cartoonishly villainous enough for you go watch Ben 10. EGS doesn't need a Rogues Gallery.

>>1404997
>>Pandora... becomes a fairy godmother
>Actually I wanna get back to that.

That does actually kinda bother me. She went from "Chaotic Neutral Unknowable Being" to basically another stand-in for Dan's sensibilities. We can't know for sure but I can't help but think something in the plan changed between "Pandora Chaos Raven" (http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1023) and... this. (http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=493)

I mean, does that spiteful abomination really look like someone who gives a shit about puppies? (http://www.egscomics.com/egsnp.php?id=494)

I see two possibilities; one, this was all part of the plan, for whatever reason we are meant to slowly relate more to Pandora.

The other, I see, is Dan slowly attacking himself to this character (who no doubt was always going to be randomly marking people, and probably start helping against Magic changing) and changing how she was portrayed.

Is this (http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=824) how you treat someone whose son you treat like family?

I dunno. It's 3:30 in the morning where I am and I just have a lot of feelings about this comic.

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Dan dropped the expo bomb.
This is juicy.

>>1405102
>She wants to do everything with him
And just like that, the blood's pumping.

>>1405102
Congrats Justin, you may not have made an appearance for a while but you officially have an in now.

>>1405415
Except, obviously, that the form of Elliot that's into Justin is also the form Justin is not into.

Anything that touches on SPH at all?

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>>1405185
more importantly: goth likes girls

>>1405569
Don't do this to me man, I need to do stuff today.

>>1405507

Cruel sexy irony.

>>1405006
I am 100% sure you're right about Dan changing his mind about Pandora. He basically replaced her with Voltaire, and I absolutely hate it, because I hate retcons

>>1406672
The main plothole caused by that retcon is Dex's medallion - it has a symbol that Raven immediately connects with Pandora, and yet later Voltaire claims to have been the one who manipulates Dex.

>>1406672
We should ask about it and, for more expansion, how far ahead he thinks plotlines. Obviously strips are relatively rough idea in advance but the actual working out of them is more off the cuff. I remember him saying Lord Tedd showed up too early so maybe he's got plots for years in the future somewhere. I just want to know. No more X-Files bullshit, I beg.

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At least the characters are handling gender a lot more maturely than other comics.

13 years later and Ash is still a whiney bitch about it.

I'm not sure how I feel about finding this thread. I've loved this comic since it first came out but only just now found this (new to 4chan).

On the one hand it's cool to find other people with the same interests and discussing things I like. On the other, it seems like the discussions are going too deep for how I (felt) about this comic.

>>1404585
If I learned anything from Achewood, it's that stories don't need neat conclusions, and that baking bread is hardcore.

>>1404949
So it's literally a magic cure for dysphoria.
>>1407053
4chan is not your blog.

>>1407092
Sorry bro. Still new here. Not sure how things work. I'll lurk more.

Cheers

>>1406810
>I remember him saying Lord Tedd showed up too early
I mean, that was like the first few years of the comic, and I doubt Dan had much of a plan back then. Remember Matt and Rat? Not really the sign of tight worldbuilding and careful planning.

>>1407293
Yeah he's been trying to cover up early jokes and things like that in-universe.
>Anime style martial arts studio

>>1407603
Apparently if he could do it all over he'd have Ellen just be Elliot's normal biological twin than the whole slew of coincidences, accidents, and magic mumbo jumbo that resulted in our Ellen.

Fuck, now I kinda wanna see an outline of how Dan would've done it all now.

>>1407622
>if he could do it all over he'd have Ellen just be Elliot's normal biological twin
source?

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>>1406730
I actually think it fits, since a jar on it, true to the original Pandora myth.
But our Pandora is all about boxes, no care about historical accuracy.

>>1407622
That would be way more boring, so I'm glad he didn't reboot the universe that way or something.

>>1406955

How the absolute fuck does Misfile still look the same after all these years? How does the art just not evolve over time? Penny Arcade looks like a totally different comic from just a few years back, never mind the beginning.

I stopped reading that shit years ago when it became clear that it wasn't going anywhere.

>>1409050
The art has evolved just as much as the main character. How it is still going after 13 years, I'll never know.

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>Cowgirl Justin
VERY NICEU
I hope someone makes a separate version of it

>>1409050
if you go back to the first chapter you'll see it did evolve
>>1409353
>How it is still going after 13 years, I'll never know
It's still going because it's still going. I know that sounds weird at first but it makes sense: just being able to update regularly is a quality in webcomics and that'll guarantee you a fanbase.

I'm more befuddled by Dresden Codak that updates once in a blue moon and with way less dense strips than at its beginnings and still gets money.

>>1409667
I get that obviously, I still read the damn thing daily too. It was more just me expressing frustration with the MC. She's still a miserable bitch after all this time, constantly complaining and treating her friends like shit despite the fact she pretty much won the lottery with her change. She's got to sleep with a couple of hot women and reconnect with her estranged mother who's promising to pay for her college AND fund her racing dream afterwards.

It seems like all gender change comics besides egs seem stagnate or die out. I guess that's due to egs much larger than normal cast of characters and constant variety of changes instead of just one that has to drive the whole plot.

>>1406955
How long has it been in-comic?

>>1409667

I know it's changed since it started, but a strip from 2013 doesn't look that different from the ones now. It's more that he reached a point where the art just doesn't change from then on.

>>1409785
I think around a year total in universe. The pacing kind of sucks. They've had a single night take a whole year in real time (and that's with it being a 5 updates a week strip).

>>1407092
For all we know, if it turned a guy with dysphoria into a different guy it might still fix it.

>>1409518
>DFC Grace
Why did such a thing never occur to me before?

>>1410188
To be fair, Grace's Birthday Party.

>>1407603
I was annoyed at that, especially when that was during or right after he titled an arc bringing silly back. Seriously, that kind of silly nonsense was part of why I fell in love with the comic to start with.

>>1407622
That's a stupid choice and feels lazy, not entirely unlike just giving memories of a whole new life which he did. But that had a dramatic arc and some interesting alternate reality things to it.

>>1409518
Oh god damn this comic. I just went back through the rest of that storyline and there's totally stuff that I overlooked in like every other page

>>1410324
That card game tourney tho.

>>1409518
>nerd lolis
More please.

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>>1409667
I think you'll be happy to hear that Dresden Codak has been losing patrons the last few months.

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>>1410868

>>1410188
He's starting to get better about pacing. This arc's been practically turbocharged compared to the last few.

>>1400644
I can conclusively say that without EGS, I definitely would have grown up to be a bigoted, hateful asshole; because I was raised in a super conservative christian family and I was a bigoted, hateful little shit of a kid. One of my biggest regrets as an adult is how much of a fucking asshole I was to the only openly gay kid in middle school, I bullied him relentlessly.

I don't remember how exactly I stumbled across EGS, but I remember it was at my grandmother's house at about 10 pm and I ended up staying up until 5 am reading all of it. The first Justin storyline was the first time I'd been forced to really confront my prejudices and realize how stupid and irrational they were without my parents looming over my shoulder and screeching GAYS ARE TEH DEBUL GONNA BURN IN HELL REEEEEEEE. It was the first time I really understood gay people were, shock and awe, people, not demons sent to undo western society.

>>1410755
How 'bout a pinup of them dressed as their fave super-heroines?

>>1411526
This one is more appealing, because it seems plausible that Susan would walk around topless to stand up for the rights of women to do some thing or other.

>>1412969
No one starts webcomics out of passion for their subject anymore. They want to make a business out of it, or use it as a portfolio. So they increasingly suck, being all posed to rake in the most views w/ the least offense. This generation won't have an EGS sneaking around their janky internet filters. It either won't exist, or google will just decide they don't want to see anything like that. It's all too sterilized now.

>>1413274
I don't know what webcomics you've been finding but the only thing I noticed was the decline of video game webcomics and a rise of higher quality art in fantasy webcomics.

>>1414137
It's ridiculous easy to herald the decline of all that is good, its hard to find sources. Don't feed the trolls.

What good new-ish fantasy webcomics have you found? Off the top of my head I can think of Archipelago and Cucumber Quest,

>>1414254

Daughter of the Lilies has been my fix since Skullkickers ended.

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>>1414254
I was thinking relative to EGS as far as new, so that includes things like Unsounded and Kill 6 Billion Demons, and the usual stuff /co/ is all over. I'm not as into finding new webcomics as I used to be be even without looking I've got far more and better webcomics bookmarked that are more fantasy adventure when 7 years ago it was mostly video game stuff.

It's hard to suggest new webcomics because you need at least a good couple of years to find out if the artist is actually committed or if they've set themselves up for too 'epic' of a story they'll never finish. The smarter ones stay episodic or write shorter stories, because the number of webcomics I know that tried for a high fantasy adventure and actually finished can be counted on one hand, two of them are by Evan Dahm, which makes him like a god of webcomics.

Moral of the story: write short stories or draw with simpler are you can spit out twice a week.

One comic caught my attention recently called Nercropolis, and it seemed to be updating fast. Then it seemed to die without a word. Suddenly it has two updates and I don't know if I can trust it to keep going. I've put it in the same folder I keep lackadaisy to check back every few months.

I would highly recommend Devil's Candy if you like well done anime tropes, Halloween, and monster girls.

If you don't have many you follow I could list some others that have been around a bit longer but you might like but have likely heard of. Shit like Poppy O'Possum, Paranatural, Latchkey Kingdom if you don't mind some furry lite (I liked the comic he made before it better, 70 seas). Would you believe Zebra Girl is still going? And Gunnerigg Court is always a staple along with Evan Dahm's current comic, Vattu. Bad Machinery is a guilty pleasure, and

If you're wanting more Tf there's always Skin Deep, if you want TG and new there's Magical Girl Neil, and if you want both and new there's Out of Placers.

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>>1415030
I'm a little surprised that I can keep going on and on with webcomics, some that have come and gone, ended or just started, plenty of genres, and way better art than the best you could find when I first discovered webcomics in '06.

This is a motherfucking golden age for this shit. I think tumblr and patreon are the main reasons. It used to be lucky popular webcomics could set up a shady donations box and be lucky to get a couple hundred a month, now people can live off of it. It's the new funny papers now that newspapers are dead, except that it's supported by the readers not a publisher of some kind. Independent and free to explore interesting avenues that the stale comics industry has ignored.

I mean look at >pic related, that's no Mike Magnola and can't hold a candle to his fantastic work, but I it's got shit going on that print has been lacking and neglecting.

But maybe that anon's right, maybe we should go back to the days where people made webcomics out of passion, about two retards sitting on a couch telling unfunny jokes about video games. Except that's on youtube now and fits the format much better than it ever did webcomics.

I mean it's either that or shit like Misfile; badly drawn deviantart manga style shit. That's the glory days of webcomics right? Why can't we go back to those simpler duller times?

We're in a fucking golden age for this shit I tell you. Better written comics, stable updates, better drawn by a good mile, newer topics and more original settings and stories.

/rant

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New from EGS Edits! WOO!

>>1415030
>Magical Girl Neil
Simply does not update often enough. Also kind of wusses out of the whole TGTF thing w/ the goddess body.

Which female Elliot form would you prefer to fuck, and why?

>>1415974
Is "all of them, changing forms every few seconds like that one mario princess flash video" an option?

>>1405517

Guess not

>>1415974
>"Default"
Closest to Elliot's base self, cute as fuck, no personality overlay to mess with adorkableness.
>Rose Elliot
TIDDIES. Also, again, no personality change and playing with her hair afterwards would be awesome.
>Gothy
Sultry 24/7, dem corsets.

>>1415974
>>1415974
Birthday party for maximum hair.

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New page is up.

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And NP.

I'm hype. It IS weird that in the 9 years since Sister 2 we've basically seen one new spell from Ellen, kinda wonder what it's gonna be.

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>>1416698

Placing my bet on Sam, desperately trying to find a solution for first date with Sarah. Or, really, a solution to hook up with Sarah at all.

It's a sad & touching irony that Sam has actually found someone in Sarah where this is almost a trivial concern, whether Sam can ever trans physically or not. Of all the many tangled threads of EGS, hoping to see this one work out.

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>>1415974
>Which female Elliot form would you prefer to fuck, and why?

Goth Elliot. For Reasons. >>1350511 Mostly, I like the more normal & slim-ish body proportions. I'm not much on big tits or bimbo-THICC body types. But, >>1405569 I'd mostly want to fuck her if I was Ashley. Strap-on and male form (also) inclusive.

Optionally, if Nanase & Ellen ever went 4-way with Goth Elliot & Ashley .... I sure wouldn't mind being any of them and fucking all the rest silly for a weekend of debauchery.

Wouldn't say no to Cheerleadra in Uryuom uniform, either .... Still would want to be Ashley, though.

>>1415974

I guess I'll be different and say 'Mild Mannered' Elliot. She is ridiculously cute, and I love shy, mousey girls. Recent revelations about her willingness to do 'All the things...' with the right guy certainly helps. Birthday party Elliot is a good second, what with the long hair. Naturally, there is an appeal to each of the others as well, but they don't top the list.

>>1418551
Assuming that mall-goth fusion is hypothetically possible, I'd be excited for some mild mannered fusions with interesting new personalities and looks. Any of them, really. It's only vanilla mild that I find kinda boring.

>>1418608
>Assuming that mall-goth fusion is hypothetically possible
He can look like any woman, or combine them. That was the first thing he even did.

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>>1420739
Specifically the personality aspects tho.

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So now every faction is after the same thing?

>>1422665
I mean... the fate of magic. I'd say that's kind of important.

I just hope we have some satisfying climax. We haven't had a good epic confrontation since Sister II.

>>1422665
When did Elliot find out that magic marks come from Immortals?

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>>1422665
>and they all make this face

>>1422820
well this is sister III

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C'mon don;t do me like this, Shive. I wanna get to the good stuff.

>>1424456
>libido boost

Yes!

More mind alteration please.

>>1424486
Libido has more to do with the body than the mind. Like hormones and stuff.

If you want mind alteration, look at how Tedd can make someone bisexual with his TF gun.

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>Two ladygregs.

Unf.

>>1426838
The sexiest truce.

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>>1427516
The bonus versions are more or less shoop fodder. I am 100% in favor of this.

>>1428409
He shaded the rib cage...after drawing abs on it. Dan needs an anatomy lesson.

>>1405006
Not to handwave, but Pandora is unstable as Hell. I half expect Voltaire to be a,splinter personality of Pandora herself. It's been hundreds of years since she reset. She is certifiably bonkers. It's possible she completely walled off and compartmentalized the aspect of herself that's willing to casually kill people.

>>1431461
Eh, instability seems to express as her messy cloud-like form, that's at odds with splintering from a style perspective. And her crazy seems to fade as she finds any kind of thing to actually focus on, it's bored Pandora that's the dangerous state.

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>>1431461

If I were to agree with that conjecture, I'd be more inclined to believe that Sirleck was some sort of compartmentalized altar-ego of Pandora. As it stands, I don't think it's likely (Voltaire either) ... I'd go with Pandora always appears as Pandora, even though her form certainly changes by the whim.

Also, while she is unstable and definitely under mental duress, I don't think she's really insane. I think her love for and dedication to her family has helped her maintain some grip on reality. I'd call her eccentric, dotty, a bit touched, scarey and dangerous. Yet, as much as she's a good example of why immortals/fae should reset regularly, she has somehow managed to do pretty well given the extreme limits she is pushing.

I suspect rather strongly that we will see her reset during the course of EGS, assuming Dan lives long enough to publish most of what's in his head.

Now. Interesting branch of speculation this goes down ... Sirleck & Voltaire may also be immortals who are long past their reset date, and they don't have the focus and cornerstone that helps settle Pandora down a bit. Sirleck appears to have become a vampire of sorts, although something of a special class of vampire. Perhaps he's a fae-turned-vampire while the others we've encountered so far are human-turned-vampires.

And then, there is also the question of Raven's age. Given the timelines involved, it seems Raven is quite a bit over 200 years old. If we look at Pandora's love, dragons were a real thing in that world, which would seem to put it at ~1200 A.D. (at the latest), and perhaps deep into the Bronze age, such as 3000 B.C. or something.

No matter how you slice it, Raven has to be well over 500 years old, possibly 1000 or (at the extreme) 5000 years old. Whatever argument is made, Raven is well past the 200 year reset age. If he were "merely" 200 years old, Pandora would only be about 400-ish, not the 1000-ish that seems to be implied so far.

How sane is Raven?

>>1432013
Raven isn't an "immortal", even if he could live forever, there's no reason he'd have the immortals problems that require a reset. Same with aberrations.

>>1431461
>>1432013
"X is actually Pandora but..." is just a bunch of mediocre fan theory malarkey. I have more respect for Dan that to think he'd do an ass-pull like that.

I thought we knew Sirleck was an Abberation? And not even a particularly special one, just one that's stealthy and good at amassing power.

I stand by my claim- Pandora was meant to be more unhinged and antagonistic than she is now. Somewhere along the line Dan let his own sensibilities seep into this character and now she's become less "terrifying insane fae" and more "Author Surrogate- Now with Spicy Fake-crazy flavor!"

Maybe it's just how she's been acting in NP. The arc where she went round marking people was the most blatantly self-indulgent thing Dan has done since giving the quiet pervert who was into transformation a TF gun and a furry girlfriend. I do suppose that's kinda the point of NP but it still rubbed me the wrong way.

>>1429299
People can and do give themselves magic abs in Moperville. Magic abs would be more resistant to involuntary transformation, since they are magic. The abs appear on the low-effort version. Your lore is rusty.

>>1432013
Sirleck is a whole different critter, though. It used to be a human mage.

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Welp, Ellen has a super slutification beam.

>>1432891
That's far-fetched, it's just a drawing error. The abs are Greg's own normal abs, he doesn't have magic.

>>1434928
Although to be honest, I actually don't know what the error is (though my comment on the "magic abs"-idea still stands), can ribs and abs not be visible at the same time?

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>>1428409
The way the last panel was supposed to look. (When is Dan finally going to post some nipples?)

>>1434936
I'm not one to disparage tight vaginas, but those barely look functional

>>1434936
Am I the only one bothered by the way Dan draws abs?

>>1434943
How so? I mean they don't exactly look realistic, but the whole drawing is a cartoony simplification (I mean noses and eyes don't look like that either).

>>1435003
Nah, he draws them weird, I was just saying I don't know enough of anatomy to know what exactly is wrong.
But IMO Dan makes a lot bigger anatomy mistakes all the time, which I found odd since he has done a ton of art classes and has been drawing for ages.

>>1434928
actually he probably does
magic abs is not a buff you put on yourself, it's an outlet for inner magic to express itself (like nanase's magic boobs and hair)
Greg invented anime style martial arts that gave magic to three members of the cast, his towering stature and muscles are probably part magic.
>>1434931
Yes they can, especially when the abs are defined to this point, because it means the body fat percentage ought to be very low. What's surprising is having such exeptional front abs and obliques bieng not that noticeable (unless what you call ribs are oliques).
And lastly bf% is wack when considering tiddies but that's fv5 at work.

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>>1434488
Whoof, dat comparison.

>>1435340
> Without text in the way, we can see that the button popped off Ellen's shorts, and the seams on the side split.
Th-thanks Dan. Considering I've been reading this comic for years, it's kinda weird that I didn't acquire this fetish until now.
I suspect it's because transformation clothes destruction is usually over exaggerated and focused on the bust. This small yet significant damage to expose just a hint of bigger hips is just pachajustright.png for me.

>>1434488
Hang on, since Ellen naturally has the form of a FV5, and that spell applies a double FV5, then does that mean her form there is a triple FV5?

>>1435397
It's a good(sexy) detail.

I'm enjoying the alternate noncanon nonsense more than the current storyline. Real world issues are annoying and explaining things seems to kill off the joy. Bringing up the hammers again which also reminded me of killjoy explanations did not help.

>>1436344
You could ask him. That sounds like the exact kind of question he would answer in the commentaries.

>>1436404
I'm disappointed eliott's orientation troubles only lasted one page and now we're on justifications piling up upon each other.
I'm still enjoying female bedtime eliott a great deal

>>1436572
Did. His response was effectively that a person could make an argument for calling it that.

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Well at least Dan's acknowledging it.

Still kinda funny to think that Ellen has like five pages of her spellbook filled with nothing but "V5 but" spells

>>1434936
Who believes some anonymous user is replicating Dan's brush settings and brush strokes right on the money? I've been involved in the EGS community for 15 years, no EGS fan has the ability to do this.

Dan grow some damn balls and just admit your posting nudes. Its just us nobody here will judge you.

>>1440870
Uh, you're saying the EGS-edits guy is Dan?
I'm 100% sure that's not the case

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>>1440870
if I had patience to use a vector layer for the inking to keep the line weight consistent It wouldn't be that hard.

>>1441329
Did you make that? Great work!
And I agree, Dan's style doesn't seem all that difficult to copy. I just wish more egs-fans would make some nsfw fan art

You think Dan ever visits these threads?
I wonder what he thinks about them

>>1441886
He probably avoids them, but might run into other things. Like that one time he linked to the femRaven fanart on tumbr, who immediately followed it up with femRaven porn.

As for what he thinks, who knows? He might just shut down.

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>>1441408
yes
>>1441886
You could ask him.

New thread:
>>1442178
>>1442178
>>1442178

>>1441941
If I remember correctly I think he has stated that he occasionally searches on tumblr for anything tagged egs or similar, I think that's how he found that Raven pic

>>1434488
Those two were into each other and girls already.

>>1434928
He invented anime style martial arts. He can do the kamehameha for real. He has magic.

>>1440870
There are some shoopists on 4chan that are downright witchcraft. Or there were 5 years ago. You don't see it much these days.

>>1436809
There's no reason they should take a long time for Eliot to figure out. He is talking to an himself who has already figured it out about figuring it out. All the work is done. Might as well be talking to himself from the future.

>>1443563

I think he might have more than magic, I think he might be like a completely untrained wizard of enormous talent.