>gets the power of a god which allows him to anonymously kill

>>161961964
>>even if they found his book, they still need to prove that the book did it and they can't do that without killing someone
They can just write his name. That way he dies if he's guilty.

>>161961994
Doesn't prove guilt. Could have found the book and never written names in it

He wanted people to know they were being judged.
Also his test seems reasonable. How would you test it?

>>161961964
Light's goal wasn't to kill criminals, it was to be a God, and establish himself as the dominant power in the world.

The whole thing was always about his ego, and he wouldn't have been satisfied to just kill from the shadows. He wanted his enemies to know he was the one who killed them.

>>161961964
Light was always a retard blinded by his ego, the only reason he was winning at the start it's because he had the fucking death note and the knowledge about everything else while L had to figure out how the fuck was Kira killing people.

L was smarter than Light

>>161961994
>>161962110
He only got into this entire mess because he killed a guy on national television after being provoked. Even I could have told him that this is a horrible idea. Also it is bad PR.

Until he did that huge mistake it was believable that he was just and punished only criminals. Fake L however wasn't a criminal. To the public he was just a normal detective. His only crime was to tell the public that Kira is evil. Killing him doesn't exactly help in proving he is good.

Plus from this moment random psychopaths like Misa and Mikami felt attached to him. He got almost got caught several times because of Misas stupidity and in the end he does because of Mikami.

He should have picked better allies.
>>161962202
Yeah if it weren't for the small fact that his dad is the boss of the fucking Japanese police and Japan was the country with the most deaths.

The police had the responsibility for criminals. To assume that someone inside the police is corrupt and spreading a virus among prisoners or some shit would be the first fucking logical thing to suspect. Then narrowing down his location with different broadcasts for different regions? That's as logical as it gets. And technically the police didn't even commit a crime by exposing Lind L Taylor. Kira killed them after all.

Light is a dumb idiot just like his entire fanbase.

>>161961964
>don't use police only info like an imbecile
>don't kill people only when you have free time
>don't use info you see on the TV or sites that aren't major and accessible from any country (use a VPN)
Whoa, dude. It's almost as if it's extremely fucking easy to stay anonymous, the guy was simply retarded. But I guess the plot would've been boring otherwise.

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>>161961964
His ego is what makes following the story entertaining.
What's the point of him silently triumphing by giving L no clues when instead he puts himself at risk so you get to experience a battle of wits between those two?

>>161962328
Why the fuck didn't he just brainwash someone to have an accident where L dies in a car crash after he became Ls friend?

No fucking way that death could have proven that Light was Kira. Nobody had an idea that Kira can kill people in different ways. Plus without L the police was a bunch of retards.

>>161962546
You can't use the Death Note to force someone to kill someone else

>>161961964
We've had this thread every day for the past week.

>>161962424
When he killed the guy on TV they still had the whole Kanto region as suspects, that is still an enormous number of people. They would've never found him like that. His real mistake was using police info, that way they narrowed the search down to the exact individual. Killing the FBI dude sealed his fate, but he was fucked either way.

>>161962446
What bothers me is also that he went after the small fish. Literally low-IQ rapists and robbers who would rot in prison anyway.

What about the really evil people: the drug barons, warmongers, arms traders, mafia/syndicate lords, dictators etc...?

Oh wait killing these guys would require to research stuff and invest scarce mental resources into something other than school and Light was obviously too smart for that.

Light was a complete retard, I can't understand how anyone would vouch for him

>>161962669
We've had this thread every day 10 years ago. Truly dark times.

>>161962692
>Killing the FBI dude sealed his fate
Why did he do it? I don't even remember it.

Didn't the FBI guy say Light was just a normal guy?

>>161962424
>Even I could have told him that this is a horrible idea.
Because your weakness isn't your ego. I still think L would've caught anyone here sooner.

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>>161962110
Let all the criminals die to random shit then setup the rumor that bad karma kills them all. Woosh

>>161963059
That is the opposite of letting people know they are being judged.

>>161962909
>I still think L would've caught anyone here sooner
You're projecting your own lack of intelligence upon other people. See >>161962446
That's the only things you have to do to stay hidden, there's literally no way L would catch you unless the plot demands so.

>>161963179
You only point out Light's mistakes. You don't notice your own pattern and mistakes.

>>161962424

He had to kill Lind L. Tailor because it was not just chance to kill L who was trying to oppose him but also chance to proof to the world that Kira exists and punishes anyone who doesn't do his will. Up until that point Kira was just rumours. We know that it was a bad move but for Light the whole point was make the world be afraid of punishment.

>>161962446
The problem was that Light had higher aspirations, and viewed himself as god. So when the FBI agents were after him, he had to kill them in old testament style righteousness.

If Light could have been content killing criminals whenever they committed a crime, he would have had a very peaceful world where everyone is terrified of breaking the law, because who wants to get a heart attack for breaking a rule? But no one would know who was behind it, and Light wanted the credit.

>>161963310
In fact, it might be even more interesting if the manga had gone that way. The world would have fundamentally changed, the internet might have a blacklist on reporting crimes, or television might be outlawed. Tv shows and movies would have to be underground because anyone with a camera who is filming could potentially report a crime and then be subject to Kira's wrath.

But if humanity's survival is paramount, we would change whatever we needed to to curb kira's power. He is still a human, and if we remove the tools that give him surveillance, he would be toothless except for the crimes committed near him.

That might take us back to a pre-internet and television industrial world.

>>161962446
Okay and then what? Sure you are removing a few pieces of shit but nobody knows it is for the acts and nobody connects it to a godlike being judging you so nothing changes. After you are dead society might be even worse because it will have to adjust to a huge influx of more criminals. And you are in whatever hell left for people who use dead notes.

>>161963179
>use NASA supercomputers and billions of dollars to crack any VPN (the companies which provide VPNs can be bought like anything, especially if is a state emergency)
>use an algorithm which compares the names in browser histories to the names of the victims
>use an algorithms which keeps track which photos were leaked and how
>suddenly you are part of maybe 300 autists on earth who were all researching that stuff
>all of them get v&
>they find your book
>they force you to write the name of someone who got the death sentence, after all if they don't know the book kills people it's not the crime
>now they know it does
>they analyze your writing style to determine that it was 100% you who did write all the names
>you get bin laden't
Done. Nobody is smarter than the entire mental and financial resources of an entire nation.

>>161963161
Light didn't need to make it obvious, enough coincidences and autists would connect the pieces and start worshiping him.

Light was smart, but he had a fucking ego problem.
How you don't get this is amazing.

>>161963497
>enough coincidences and autists would connect the pieces and start worshiping him.
Not really. You would be a conspiracy nut believing in it.

>>161962902
He did, but Light didn't know that.

>>161961964

The entire point is that Light did this to himself, he only got caught because he put himself in the situation. L would never have had the man power to do anything remotely even come close to finding Light.

the retard here was L telling just after the murder that everything was staged.

light wanted to be a god, he wanted everyone to know him.
L wanted to catch him, making him think that he was dead was a great advantage.

Like we could've skip the whole agent murder and jumped right away to ryusaki presenting himself to light in class.

>>161963389
>He is still a human, and if we remove the tools that give him surveillance
Except that would be literally impossible to do. The most powerful and richest people on earth aren't ghosts. They are all know and there exists at least 1 picture of even the most anonymous of them.

If someone decides as much as even dare to suggest to ban television and the Internet Light could simply annihilate one powerful person after another, until they stop. Don't want to die? Don't ban television. You're a president and don't want to die? Fire anyone who suggests banning television.

An entire new caste of anonymous politicians would need to arise in order to do these changes. This stuff would probably take more than a lifetime, long after Kira is dead.

>>161963715
>L wanted to catch him, making him think that he was dead was a great advantage.
L also wanted people to know that Kira isn't a god though. That he is someone judging people who should not have that power.

>>161963431
>After you are dead society might be even worse
That happens either way unless you train another Kira to do the same thing you did.
>nobody connects it to a godlike being
You realize that you can make them write shit like ''Kira did this'' in blood before they die and people will find out about you without actually knowing who you are, right ?

>>161963468
This is correct, you will eventually have to stop if your only source of information is the internet. They could also straight up ban every info about criminals from mainstream sites and track every deep web site there is. If you stop on time you won't be caught though.

>>161963715
>Like we could've skip the whole agent murder and jumped right away to ryusaki presenting himself to light in class.
lol no. Kanto has what, 50 million people? The only reason L targeted Light was because the FBI agent who died surveilled only about 100 people and Light was the one with the strongest connection to the police.

>>161963723
Yes, but he would give the notebook to someone else and the cult of Kira would be an influence also. If you kill off the president of broadcasting and no one takes his place, then the broadcasts still stop.

>>161963468
keep the book offsite somewhere, also they cannot compel you to write in the book. Even if you did somehow get forced into writing in the book you writing in the book and someone dying needs a causal link to be accepted as evidence to even charge you let alone hold and convict you.

>>161963715

Having recently reviewed the series, I've come to the conclusion that L's sometimes frustrating behavior makes complete sense once you realize that his highest priority is NOT catching Kira, but rather to determine how Kira is able to kill people. He doesn't merely want to catch Kira, he wants to make sure that nobody else can ever do what Kira is doing. When he uses Lind L. Tailor as a decoy, he's not just trying to locate Kira, he's trying to see if Kira will be able to kill him once the decoy is revealed. That's why L starts daring Kira to kill him after Tailor dies. L wants to establish whether or not Kira is able to kill him in that situation. When Kira isn't able to kill L, that's how L figures out that Kira needs a face to kill.

>>161963880
>also they cannot compel you to write in the book.
Dude the rules of the death note are literally written there. A cruel joke indeed what the Shinigami did. 1 death could be a coincidence, maybe even 2 or 3. But if the 10nd guy dies exactly 40 seconds after you've written the name it is obvious that your book kills people. That's all the proof you need.

Also I seriously doubt they can't force you. If you killed thousands of people you would be worse than ISIS and they would treat you accordingly.

The only thing that could save you is if they didn't know you have to imagine a face to kill someone. Then nothing would happen. But it is literally written in the damn book. If it wasn't divine or something I would remove all of the rules with fucking acid or overwrite it so many times that it would be impossible to decipher.

>>161963715
>the retard here was L telling just after the murder that everything was staged
Are you retarded, dude ? After he found out that Light was in the Kanto region he had to prohibit people from entering or exiting the area, this couldn't have been kept a secret. Light would've known anyway that he got caught on that one.

>>161963988
>He doesn't merely want to catch Kira, he wants to make sure that nobody else can ever do what Kira is doing.
No, L is just a literal autist and it would have ate away at his soul to not solve the heart attack murder mystery. He doesn't really give a shit about justice. Justice is more of a means to an end so he can amuse himself intellectually.

>>161963715

>Like we could've skip the whole agent murder and jumped right away to ryusaki presenting himself to light in class.

No. The Agent dying is the entire reason why L was able to narrow down the list of suspects so quickly. L realized that Ray Pember had been stalking Light Yagami shortly before his mysterious death, and that's what initially made L consider Light to be a suspect in the first place. If Ray Pember doesn't die, then L has no reason to start spying on Light.

>>161963468
>they find your book
They'd find a notebook containing the names and causes of death of those who died. Not a super weird thing to find on someone investigating the deaths. You jump to the 'notebook kills people' conclusion far too quick.

>>161964129
>They'd find a notebook containing the names and causes of death of those who died
Is there a rule that says you can't dispose of pages after you finish writing in them ?

>>161964129

If they find the notebook, then they'll instantly know that it isn't an ordinary notebook. Why? Because of Ryūku. Anybody who touches the notebook will instantly be able to see the Shinigami. This is why Light gets so worried when his little sister almost touches the notebook early in the series.

>>161964186
No. You can even take pages to use on the go.

>>161961964
Why didn't he just have Mikami sakujo the rest of his detective team after his father died?

>>161963988
>That's why L starts daring Kira to kill him after Tailor dies. L wants to establish whether or not Kira is able to kill him in that situation. When Kira isn't able to kill L, that's how L figures out that Kira needs a face to kill.
This is also how L found out that Kira isn't omnipotent. It would be meaningless to fight an omnipotent being so L was ready to die. It was in this moment that L already defeated Light.

Until that moment L wasn't really obsessed and was still considering that he wasn't fighting a man but a phenomenon or a virus.

After his provocation he was 100% sure that he was fighting someone with his own will, who wasn't omnipotent.

>>161964186
>>161964233
I forgot, how many pages does the notebook have and can you run out?

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>Light gets replaced by pic related as the protagonist of Death Note
What changes?

>>161964287
Unlimited pages.

>>161964303
Kaiba wins. He is the CEO of a gigantic company, not just some random policeman.

>>161964303
Kaiba destroys the Death Note because he can't play card games with it

>>161964070

The entire reason why L is so tolerate about letting Light walk a

>>161964287

It has magically infinite pages.

>>161964303

Kaiba wouldn't want to be an autistic vigilante so Kira doesn't exist and Kaiba just keeps it locked in a vault somewhere in case he needs it for some reason.

>>161964203
Again, they'd not think notebook = capable of seeing ryuk.
Someone'd see him, freak the fuck out, and would be declared insane.

Besides they'd be rummaging through your shit and even if, that's a big IF, even if they figure out that you need to touch something to see ryuk, they'd have touched so much stuff the notebook wouldn't be first to come to mind.

>>161964359
Oh yeah because a black, edgy book which contains ALL names who died in the mysterious heart attack series, isn't suspicious at all.

>>161964303
Kaiba actually stays anonymous until they turn the whole internet into a honeypot and Kaiba has to stop killing people or risk getting caught.

>>161964421
No, not really. Especially in Light's case, the son of a detective who's helped out on cases before having a notebook containing the handwritten details of one of the most interesting series of murder cases? It fits with his background, the logical conclusion would be that light was conducting his own investigation and that these are his notes.

Someone who isn't light can still claim that those are his notes on a really interesting murder case. But someone who isn't light would probably have ripped out the pages and desposed of them.

>>161964287
Just break as many pages as possible and hide them in different places. Dispose of the pages after you use them. Boo whoo, now you are virtually anonymous, even if they find you through the internet they have no evidence to prove you killed anyone.

What's with all the DN threads recently?

>>161964359
>Someone'd see him, freak the fuck out, and would be declared insane
What about the scenes where one of the detectives saw Rem and got scared and made the others touch the notebook?

>>161964696
netflix live action movie came out recently

>>161964555
>>161964359

Anybody who touches the notebook will be able to see Ryuk and talk to him. And since Ryuk tends to follow Light around wherever he goes, it would become very obvious that Light is actually Kira. Sure, Light might try to tell Ryuk to stay away from him, but how long would that work? Ryuk doesn't feel much loyalty to Light except for the fact that Light is entertaining to watch. So if he's not allowed to watch Light anymore, his willingness to follow instructions is going to dry up very quickly.

>>161964696
DN movie

>>161964743
>>161964759
I had hoped /a/ would just ignore it, but I guess it made people think about the series again and make threads again. Oh well.

>>161961964
>>they still need to prove that he was the one writing the names (maybe he just found the book?)
>find a notebook
>touch it and start seeing a GOD OF FUCKING DEATH
>the notebook has all the rules written quite clearly
>has names of every victim yet written in it
Yeah, no. That's enough evidence. If they really want more evidence, they can actually just test it on some death row inmate. If it has a fake rule that states the user will die if he doesn't continue using it, then they can have another death row inmate use it for them.

Basically, he's fucked the moment they get the note and learn it belonged to Light.

>>161964797
We had a week of non-stop threads made by people from /tv/ and /v/. It's not easy to ignore.

>>161964070
This. L kind of stopped giving a shit after he found the death note. At that point he found the murder weapon, and he knew Light and Misa were the two Kira's. His death episode, he pretty much accepted that Light had won. Bringing him to justice meant proving it beyond all reasonable doubt.

>>161964303
He writes his own name so he can duel Atem in the underworld.

>>161961964
It's been a long time and the details have faded but I recall L's deductions being mostly logical and able to hold on court, especially after accepting that there's a magic book killing people.

>>161964070

L's motivation doesn't change the fact that figuring out how Kira kills is his absolute top priority, even more so than catching Kira himself. Throughout the entire series, learning more about Kira's method of killing is more important to L than actually finding Kira. It's the entire reason why L has Light handcuffed to him in the first place. At that point L was pretty much convinced that Light was Kira, but he wanted to witness how Light was able to kill people.

>>161963468
>they force you to write the name
Unless the user has the person in mind, writing the name would have no effect. So this is essentially useless.

>>161964303
How about this.

Instead of a Death Note, Light finds the Millennium Puzzle and can use it to challenge criminals to a children's card game and banish their souls into the shadow realm if they lose. Also he gets the help of an ancient Egyptian pharaoh to cheat at said children's card game.

What changes?

>>161964303

>Light is the protagonist of Death Note

What?

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>>161961964
Yes. Death note is shit. Nothing new

>>161964748
There's also the part where in the first page of the notebook you can read "THE HUMAN WHOSE NAME IS WRITTEN HERE SHALL DIE", and then you'll wonder, is this the cause of all the heart attacks, and then read the next line: "THE DEFAULT DEATH CAUSE IS HEART ATTACK"

20 years ago, Light would be an undefeatable GOD. Today, the average /b/ tard could track down Light in 2 minutes.

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>>161961964
I love that that shitty movie has brought a resurgence of Death Note discussion. It's been too long.

>>161961964
>(!!!)
>.......
kill yourself

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>>161964303
>picks up the Death Note
>writes "Dies after beating Yami in a fair duel without interruptions"
>becomes immortal

>>161965166
I only decided to watch Death Note because at the time I thought it was flavor of the month garbage that only shitters like my friends talked about all the time.
I decided to watch it because I wanted to shitpost on /tv/ about how terrible the new movie was but I needed something to compare it to. I didn't expect the first episodes to be good an make me watch the entire thing only to drop it when L died

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>>161961964

No, the biggest dumbass in the series is this person.

>She strongly suspects that Kira was able to kill Ray because he gave out his ID card
>Despite this, she allows a random stranger to let her talk her into showing her ID card
>Not just a random stranger, but a random stranger who is suspiciously well-informed about Kira.

Literally all she had to do was keep walking and the series is over. After reviewing the scene, there is really no logical reason why she would give her ID to Light. He said nothing that sounded really convincing during the conversation. He offered no proof for his own claims that he was connected to L, nor did she bother to ask for proof, even as his claims became more and more suspicious.

>>161965166

Agreed. Here's to shitty remakes.

>>161965238
>Yami
>fair duel
I am loling at your life.

>>161965238
Heart attack because of impossible conditions, and also Yami dies of heart attack because his name was written as well. They can still duel in the afterlife tho.

>>161965269
rip, she was qt as fug though

If I had a death note I would write anonymous in it just to see what happens

>>161965269
>women being useless again
Not surprising

>>161965401

I know, rip in peace

>>161964956
Light's grandfather dies in the first episode.

>>161965088
This manga was really enjoyable.

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Defend this.

>>161965783
>F-Fine! I'll put you in that damn cell! But it's not like I actually want to take suggestions from you, y-you baka!

>>161965783
The first scene seems more like L trying to psyche Light out more than anything. In any case confining Light made for a valuable experiment from L's point of view as he was growing more suspicious at that point anyway.

>>161965196
>being that autistic

>>161965269
Light would have just beat her up if she didn't give up the ID, he even said he might have to

or quickly ask Ryuk for the eyes

>>161966003
What would he even have to lose by quickly punching her in the face, taking the ID, then writing down what he needed in the Death Note while bullshitting some quick defense of his actions to stall for the necessary minute or so?

>>161965466
You have to have a specific person in mind to prevent everyone with the same name dying.

>>161966177
Women are able to scream VERY loudly, moron.

Just 1 person who happened to be at home, probably an old person in the surrounding 20 meters is enough to at least look outside the window and see a woman lying on the fucking street and then call the police anonymously.

>>161966177
Too risky. Unless he planned for her to hide her body before he stole her purse he might fuck himself and end up with a dead body he'd have to hide during the middle of the day in a big city.

>>161966003
>>161966177

Light did consider trying to physically beat her but there were too many witnesses around. She'd cry for help and people would hear.

>>161966231
Punch her, grab the ID and quickly check it, then start writing in the Note while saying some stally shit like "I was specifically instructed by L to check IDs by every means necessary, and you left me no choice, but just calm down and I'll take you to L in a minute. Also I'm Kira and you're dead." She's not going to start screaming while he's calmly explaining himself.

>>161966357
> Any agent on the Kira case
> Using real honest IDs
lol we have a lot of L's in this thread desu

>>161966177
I wonder how far he could have exploited the Death Note, like write in "Someone tries to kill Light Yagami but kills the Woman with him instead"

>>161966605
The Death Note won't make someone kill someone else. Otherwise he could very easily just have someone on the Kira case blow themselves up with a suicide bomb while in L's presence.

>>161966605
> Someone tries to kill Light Yagami
Then Light Yagami dies. The name seals the deal. Anything not named has a pre existing fated life span that the death note won't touch.

>>161964240

Sure because the main suspect of L´s investigation surviving after all the team suddenly die and just after his father passed away in circunstances unrelated to death note is totally no suspicious at all, not to mention that he keeps the biggest position of being L

>ib4 the whole team is dead, nobody knows Light is L or he that he was the main suspect, nobody can´t accuse him

He still need to get rid off the autistic albino and edgelord Armin, who would clearly see his actions as a confirmation

Can the death note respond in the negative? Like "X does not die of a heart attack". It's not impossible or unreasonable so would it act like a wild card?

>>161966605

The death note cannot be used to make a person kill another person unless you know the faces and names of both people. For example, you cannot write "The President of the United States fires a nuclear missile at Moscow, then kills himself." It doesn't work like that. You must know the names of everybody involved.

>>161967010
The Death Note only creates deaths. Writing the name with that condition would be considered a paradox, so he'd default to heart attack death. If the conditions cannot be attained, they just die of heart attacks ignoring the later rule.

>>161965337
>Yami dies as well
Uh...bro. You're wrong on two accounts there.

>>161964825
>If it has a fake rule that states the user will die if he doesn't continue using it, then they can have another death row inmate use it for them.
You're taking it a bit extreme. First off, Japan isn't big on capital punishment. Secondly, the entire point of the fake rule was to prove Light's innocence, and L being willing to risk his life against his assurance that Light was Kira was the point where he absolutely needed to be killed, otherwise the rule would be discovered a fake. Rem just went apeshit earlier so rather than making the fake rule look legit, it made Rem look crazy.

>>161961994
Or maybe touch the book to see a giant emo god of death that instantly proves it

>>161967423
>extreme
They literally started with this move. They used and killed Lind L. Taylor in an experiment of the same type. To test Death Note's powers.

If they can test it for themselves, they can stop Kira. That was like their biggest priority. Kira is killing criminals, minor criminals, every day. Killing someone on death row, someone that is going to be executed regardless, is not extreme. And by forcing another inmate to write the name, they can avoid risk themselves, and see if the user really dies. This allows them to catch Kira with really no cost.

>>161967598
Japan has what, 10 death sentences each year?

Kira killed thousands.

>>161967423
>>161967598

L was 100% willing to use criminals as test subjects to determine if another of the Death Note rules were fake or not. In fact, he was working on such a scheme right when he was killed. L has a very utilitarian personality. If he believes that something distasteful will ultimately serve the greater good, he'll fucking do it.

im definitely not saying that i'm smarter than light or L, but i guarantee i would not get caught. it's a matter of making every death an accident and being too scared to kill huge amounts of people

>>161965269
That's women in manga by Ohba & Obata for you.

>>161969231
So glad I'm not the only one who noticed it. Not even whiteknighting, but the worst part of the series is how it treats the female characters. Not to say I especially care about women, but there's an obvious drop in the quality of writing whenever one shows up. This was ESPECIALLY bad in Bakuman, and it actually ruined the ending for me.

>>161961964
No one's belief in supernatural. Even if L find a death note, nobody would believe him.

>>161968935
How about accident and pride.

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kek, this is one of three Death note threads right now, I guess people really want to forget about the movie.

>>161961964
L had Light beat when he had him in custody and the killings stopped.
L also had no reason to believe that the rules written in the notebook were real. When he got the Notebook that should have been game set and match until Rem killed him anyways. Should have been a double KO. Not to mention all the forensic evidence they found from Misa and her admitting to meeting light during the second kira shit

L won and it's only due to sloppy writing that it did not end there.

>>161962768
He killed them all his first week or so. He even says that he is killing all the worst offenders and then working his way to lesser crimes

>>161966663
The Death Note kills whoever is written assuming a name and a face is given

He can have people kill each other if he knows their names and faces

>>161972246
Yeah, but the original post asked if he could have the Death Note kill what's her face by writing in that someone "killed the woman near Light", which he couldn't.

Wait, was it ever stated if a Shinigami could tell a human their lifespan? Or was it just Ryuk who didn't want to tell Light?

>>161964303
Series becomes a lot more enjoyable.

>>161972666
It's not that they can't, but apparently Shinigami and humans have a different concept of time, so it would be confusing. He probably couldn't be bother to tell him.

>>161972666
He specifically said it's one of the rules of the shinigami realm that he's not allowed to do so.

And he probably wouldn't do it anyway, since he doesn't consider himself Light's ally.

>>161964303
He wouldn't use it, Kaiba has a strange sense of honor. He's also wealthy and just wants to play a game for children.

>>161965783
>"but what choice do i have"

>>161965401
>>161965484
Even her dub voice was cute.

>>161964043
>Dude the rules of the death note are literally written there
depends on the death note. Some of them have rules, while others don't. Some may blatantly state that they are a death note or be a a plain black note book. If you did end up with a book with rules, you could probably just rip them out.

>>161964129
>They'd find a notebook containing the names and causes of death of those who died. Not a super weird thing to find on someone investigating the deaths. You jump to the 'notebook kills people' conclusion far too quick.
That would depend on how specific you had the deaths, with time circumstances and the such. That is unless you wrote the victim's name on one page, then wrote the circumstances on some other page then tore out and burned the page to destroy the evidence.

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>>161961964

Why didn't Light disband the task force after L died?

He would have been fine if he had done it

>>161975293
If he did that, then he couldn't have assumed the role of both L and Kira. As L, he has access to a shit ton of resources, like names of criminals to write in the notebook.

>>161975457
But he makes himself high profile and any investigation into the group pretty much makes him the number 1 suspect again.

Disbanding the group and erasing all the information would pretty much clear most suspicion and they'd have to kidnap and torture the members to even find out who was part of the investigation and at that point no one would out Light as a suspect.

It was a dumb move to play L

>>161975293
He should have had them killed slowly over the years in "accidents"

>>161975579
>It was a dumb move to play L
It was also a dumb move to use the Death Note continuously every day for years when he could have at least taken a break every now and then. Guy just fucking loved killing people.

Light's biggest flaw was his huge ego. He was a psychopath, and the only person he ever showed even a modicum of genuine respect for was his father, which is where he got his sense of justice. But he was willing to kill his entire family if the need arose, and he never showed even an ounce of admiration for any other human being. He had no romantic or sexual desires whatsoever, and the only time he ever indulged in such was to further his plans or hide his suspicious activity. He manipulated women to get what he wanted, and not only that, but he got off on the power of it. He had four simultaneous girlfriends in university despite his lack of interest in the opposite sex just because it fed his ego. He only puts L up on a pedestal after he dies because by saying L was superior to Near and Mello, he was also saying he was even better.

Some people say that the Death Note corrupted Light, but I don't think so. Power corrupted Light. None of the other people who used the Death Note underwent fundamental changes in character. Light was an alright guy after losing his memories because he had no legal power while working with L. If he had joined the police force and made his way into a position of power, he would have easily been corrupted.

Agree with Light's plans or not, you gotta admit he was a horrible human being who used people for his own ends. Mia was his stand-in in the Netflix movie.

>>161976307
He didn't kill his sister even when it would have been the smarter move to make.

>>161976480
He was going to but realized it would have incriminated him because nobody but the task force, the SPK, the mafia, and Light's mother knew about Sayu's kidnapping.

>>161976307
This reminds me a lot of those psychos I read about on Wikipedia. The most seriously fucked up ones can't get off just by being with a man or woman; they murder people because fear and pain is the only thing that gets them off.

We know Light thinks porn is boring. Do you think he jacks off when he's murdering people?

I'll take my cock out, AND BEAT IT.

So....uh....is this anime worth watching?

>>161976560
I knew it all along. Light's mom is Kira.

>>161976864
Read the manga instead.

>>161976754
There isn't a lot said about Light from before he became Kira.
>He played tennis up through middle school and got first in nationals
>He had told girls interested in him that he wasn't going to date until university
>He had assisted the Japanese police force with several cases and greatly helped them
>He was the top high school student in Japan, and he was also popular
>He had a sense of justice he inherited from his father
>He was "bored" at the start of the series
I also thought of serial killers while reading, specifically Ted Bundy who was said to be handsome and popular with women. He too was a psychopath with no remorse.

>>161976864
Read the manga. There's more content. It's worth watching the anime after though, and both have slightly different endings that are both great in their own right. There's not really any character growth, but the characters are still enjoyable and the plot is fun to watch progress.

>ITT massive speedreaders/background watchers

>>161965088
sauce?

>>161972119

I don't think it is realistic that L could have held Light forever without actually proving that he was Kira. It was strongly implied that the investigation team would have mutinied if Light were not released at some point. But beyond that, L wanted more than anything to learn how Kira was able to kill, and he couldn't do that with Light being confined. So even if L still suspected Light, he had to let him go, because that was the only way to learn more about Kira.

>>161976210

He wanted people to think of Kira as being a God, and Gods don't take breaks.

>>161961994
Ethical way of handling suspects l o l

>>161965269
The fact she didn't tell Light off for following her for a good 30 mins boggles my mind. Regardless of if he was kira or not, someone you just met being so adamant to talk to you is bad news.

Other than that I thought she was being pretty smart with the whole fake name trick.

Shame. She could've been a fun addition to the task force.

>>161976307
Agreed.
People keep bringing up a point saying that Light was completely innocent before the deathnote. But honestly to be able to write that many names in such a short time and not even be phased, especially when Ryuk told him that most people get too scared and stop using it after a few names, there was something pretty off with him to begin with.

The deathnote was just a catalyst for his insanity.

>>161962070
>what is handwriting analysis
>what are fingerprints

Death Note tries really hard to make Light and L seem super Intelligent, but whoever wrote it wasn't smart enough. Also the pacing in the second half was just terrible, half the characters are forgotten or killed and replaced by underdeveloped bullshit. I don't understand how this show still gets so much recognition, other anime have handled supernatural murder better, and handled the whole strategic 1v1 genius battle better.

>>161978511
Name a few.

>>161978613
Code Geass, Shinsekai Yori

>>161977531
>Gods don't take breaks
except that one time where he took a break and forgot he was kira, while letting some other fucker pretend to be kira.

Here's one thing in particular that I've pondered about in Death Note...

Let's say that L figures out for sure that Light is Kira, and has evidence to prove it already...

Will it actually even matter?

I mean, this is an absolute precedence. This will be the first time in history that a killer has used supernatural means to kill people. Can you even put Light in a trial when there's no laws stating that murder via supernatural means is illegal?

I mean, realistically, how exactly would that go in the legal system?

>>161978681
That whole plan worked out exactly as he intended though, that's some high level trickster God shit.

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What if it was this guy who had the Book ?

>>161978787
Murder by any means is illegal in most places. All you have to do is prove that the person directly caused the death of someone with preconceived intent. The murder weapon is nothing but evidence to help prove the intent.

How come nobody posted this yet :

https://www.gwern.net/Death%20Note%20Anonymity

>>161978787
Murder is illegal no matter how.

>>161978348
He was definitely phased initially, and he even tells Ryuk that he had lost a significant amount of weight and had nightmares in the first week while killing people. His first two kills also got him into a brief panic. Maybe you could say that he compartmentalized his guilt and killed more people in the name of "a righteous world" to justify it to himself because he couldn't deal with the thought that he, the most perfect student in all of Japan with a likely future in the police, just murdered two people. But the way he acts for the rest of the story implies that he's nothing more than a highly intelligent psychopathic serial killer with an inflated ego.

Also, I'm just gonna say that the Netflix movie was good and I really want a sequel. It was cheesy and silly at times, and it's definitely not an adaptation of the original story, but more of a story set in an alternate universe. That's one of the reasons I liked it, and I felt that there was genuine passion put into the product.

>>161978465
>What are fingerprints
Wear gloves whenever using it

>What is handwriting analysis
In that case, fuck the gloves and just say that you were researching/following the kira case out of curiosity and have those names in the notebook as a means of keep track of his victims. Just make sure that you destroy any pages of names that aren't widely known to the public or whose deaths haven't been announced.

>>161978669
>Code Geass
Lelouch was more retarded than Light.

>>161965269
No biggie there, Light would have made the deal to get the eyes in case he was completely fucked. Or just make the stuff incriminating him - the witnesses on the bus, the tapes, etc - disappear.

>>161978912
Say that to my face and not online faggot

>>161978982
>make the stuff incriminating him - the witnesses on the bus, the tapes, etc - disappear.
how would he go about doing that?

>>161978912
Nope. Lelouch often self-sabotaged because his ruthless act is just a front, rather than being an idiot like Light.

>>161979231
And then he probably faked his death if the new Geass anime is anything to go by.

>>161978982
I don't think there ever would have been a point where Light would make the trade for the Shinigami Eyes. He's too prideful to give up half his lifespan, and he's too overconfident to make the deal before getting caught. The only scenario where he'd make the deal is if a bunch of enemies knew who he was, where he was, were coming to get him, and he still had the Death Note and no other way to defend himself or escape in time. Even then he'd assume they'd be hiding their faces and consider the trade to be futile. He'd have to be panicking/drugged and not thinking clearly. He'd most likely come up with a plan to the effect of removing his memories of the Death Note once again and hiding a piece somewhere like he did before They wouldn't be able to prosecute him as an innocent man because they'd be looking to prosecute Light Yagami as Kira, not Light Yagami who has zero criminal intent. He might even just reveal his identity to the public as a last resort first in the hopes of having Kira worshipers protect him and kill off his enemies.

>>161979181
Make the bus driver send him the name of the Company that makes the security at buses, find the name of the president and make him erase all data from the company servers (implying there was cameras at the bus). If the cops can find the witnesses, so can Light, as far as I remember

>>161978912
Lelouch is definitely not smarter than light, I agree. His whole world peace plan sucks donkey dick. His plan was to just fucking put the whole world under the most brutal tyranny ever to exist and then die and have his little sister who's inexperienced at ruling is so stupid that it's unbelievable.

To even think that people would want to even be ruled AT ALL by anyone else after such a brutal reign is laughable. He's Nunnally's goddamn brother, how are the people supposed to like a relative they don't even know when all they knew was that relative's brutal oppressive brother?

>>plus he has the best cover of all: nobody would fucking believe in something supernatural

that is what gets me too, how are they going to prove it was him orchestrating the murders if all he is doing is writing the names down in a notebook?

What are they going to do, arrest him for having extremely accurate information about people's heart attacks?

>>161973115
If ryuk was supposed to stay neutral, then why did he tell near the rules were fake?

>>161979408
The plan sucked but it was what he could do. When different people join to fight a common enemy there is peace between them, at least for some time. Just think about the scary Germany making England and France become allies in war

>>161979485
At that point it was clear the Light lost, so it really didn't matter anyways.

>>161978787
legal systems aren't omnipotent, if you all were on an investigation team and all figured out that light was killing using supernatural means that could never be proven in court yet were blatantly obvious to all of you, he'd just end up killing himself in his cell, if you know what I mean

>>161978845
If Light uses the deathnote in police custody he has the perfect alibi then.

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>>161963161
Some people don't care about justice or being known.
Some people just want a peaceful life.

op is ignorant af

>>161961964
Did they ever dust it for prints? It's been such a long time.

>>161979649
Imagine if 2 Serial killers fight?
Kira vs Kira
man,it´s gave me chills.

>>161979883
If Yoshikage kira fight with a kid,he just blow up.
>anime is just 12 episodes,why this?
if you people are thinking if kira it´s a "muh intelligent"fuck this and just kill and fuck the world.
Now i think if light yagami role switch with yoshikage kira and stomp easy L,Naomi,Ray,watari,misa,Rem,Near,Mello,and all of death note characters (except Ryuk,he is immortal and don´t feel emotions ).

>>161980003
KEK,it´s me or i confuse Kira from jojo with Kira from death note?.

>>161964986
>What?

What?

>>161979408
Nunally taking over wasn't part of Lelouch's plan, his plan was to utterly discredit and destroy Britannia and it's ideals as a ruling force forever.

Even if he didn't achieve ultimate perpetual peace succeeded in his goal.

>>161962902
Because Light was being overly paranoid and killed him when simply laying low would've removed all suspicions on himself. Had Light waited and confirmed that the FBI had not only given up spying on him, but have already surveyed the entire Kanto area, he could've stumped L by killing criminals again, irritating the FBI in the process.

>>161978874
Oh man.
I completely forgot about him losing weight/having nightmares. It's been years since i've touched my DN mangas, and I recently rewatched the anime so I was basing what I said off of the first episode which made it seem more like he just easily sunk into the role of killing people after a small moment of regret.

Also I kinda agree with you. Though i'd prefer it was a miniseries instead of a movie because a lot more could've been fleshed out/less rushed.. There's potential with this new movie that they could really work on. I'll still prefer the original over this anyday, but noteflix isnt as bad as people make it out to be.

>>161963468
>they find your book
Sorry my silly nigga, but the dumbass genius had a trap that lit up the book with fire whenever someone opened it up without a key and of course your diary would be locked away.

Even if it's suspicious as fuck, a large amount of suspicion is better than a large amount of evidence. I mean it is his diary right?

>>161961964
Man was overconfident and Egotistical

So, what happened with Near and the rest of the crew in the manga?

Hold on.
If the death note has magically infinite pages, and those pages can burn, doesn't that mean that the death note could theoretically be used as a source of infinite free energy?

>>161984435
Fuck off

MIkami best character

>>161984360
At some point the shinigami will get annoyed and take it back

What if /a/ has a Death Note?

>>161961964
Thing is, if it was today, people on the Internet would have tracked him down faster than L did. After this they would mug him and take the Death Note themselves.

>>161961964
Whole point of the story was Light's arrogance and the falsehood of his sense of justice, which is exactly what leads him to kill people who were trying to bring Kira to justice and is ultimately what gets him caught. Sure he made bad decisions, but if he weren't predisposed to those bad decisions he wouldn't have thought his criminal killing project was a good idea in the first place.

HEY HEY NINGEN FUCKER