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>Welp, Shueisha said it themselves that they want Black C

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>Welp, Shueisha said it themselves that they want Black Clover to be the next Naruto. Take that as you will.

https://twitter.com/kiirobon/status/905134234209316864

So how much better is Black Clover than Naruto?
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>>161929448
First chapter is a reskin of naruto's first chapter, so it's actually worse.
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>>161929448
>Shueisha gave BC the stigma of becoming the next Naruto and now its cursed much because people will always make the comparison between the two.

New Toriko confirmed! Looks like MHA dodged the bullet and now can branch out by itself rather than people trying to make comparisons.
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It's like Naruto in which it handles the MC's motivation, how his goal and the journey to achieve it looks all over the place, and the unshakable feeling of "I think this guy (or the rival) have something to do with that huge fight back then"
It's also like FT in the way it handles powers (magic): "Arbitraty Magic: Arbitrary Magic Technique™" and how the MC relies on "Power of Never Giving Up" and actually shout it everytime he goes into battle

TL; DR worst of both worlds
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>>161929448

is even possible have a huge hit like naruto nowadays? not even attack on titan did stay relevant for a couple of years.
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>>161929448
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>>161929801
>New Toriko confirmed!
Im pretty sure BC won't flop as hard as Toriko and will successfly gather fanbase from Naruto and Fairy tail.
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>>161929448
Well, the author's decent enough to have had the MC and his rival actually interact with each other before the first chapter unlike Naruto and Sasuke.
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I thought it was a joke one shot or a short series to fill in at first, but nope.
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>>161930209
>will successfly gather fanbase from Naruto and Fairy tail.
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>>161930385
Well, it contains elements from both.
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>>161930385
>>161930209
It's weird that Shueisha actually said it wants BC to become the next Naruto while Naruto is still alive in the form of Boruto. Even ratings and sales-wise it trails behind TPN now.

Granted, Bort is now a monthly but there's still the anime going around and it may successfully siphon off some of FT's audience since the manga is ending
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>>161929801
Toriko made over $100 million in merch in it's first year of the anime how did BNHA do?
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>>161929801
Shut your mouth. Toriko was a masterpiece compared to Cocklover.
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>>161931153
source: your ass
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BC doesn't even have an arc a quarter as decent as Zabaza's arc after 120 chapters.
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>>161931349
>Toriko was a masterpiece
Toriko was shit, art was hideous story nothing special.
Also i love how MHA is always in BC threads.
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>>161931373
>quarter as decent as Zabuza's arc
Neither the rest of Naruto and other shonen shits like bleach and BnHA.
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Black Clover is fucking tanking in the rankings though.
Why wouldnt they be pushing BnHA or Neverland or even Dr. Stone instead?
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>>161933385
Fujobucks perhaps? They could amp up the fujobait in the anime.
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>>161929448
It's better than BnHA at least
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>>161929448
Hopefully it fails so they feel shame
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>>161933385
>tanking
>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/161180197/#161180197
Average ranking of past 8 weeks

01.84 One Piece
02.13 Hero Academia
03.60 Kimetsu
04.35 Neverland
04.45 Dr. Stone
04.65 Black Clover

You are full of shit its always around 5th place which is undeservedly good spot for this series.
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>>161933525
>Fujo
They would need a fujobait at first.
Only thing that i see could pander to them is YunoxAsta and maybe Yami.
Fujos usually hate series with many girls and MC have 4/5 already on his dick.
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>>161933385
>Neverland
They were already doing it with gazillions of colored pages, recommendations from famous authors and commercials on TV.
>BnHA
The planning of the first season was a mistake. Adapting only 20 chapters in just 13 episodes and putting them in a failed block was the dumbest idea they had. Just seeing the reception of the second season already shows this. BnHA could have been huge.

But, anyway, you never know how much a manga can grow because of the anime. Before the adaptation, Kuroko was selling what BC sells now, after the adaptation became the second best seller of the year.
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>>161933701
>Before the adaptation, Kuroko was selling what BC sells now, after the adaptation became the second best seller of the year.
Because its fujoshit
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>>161929448
What's the next Bleach or One Pice?
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Ah yes the Toriko curse.
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>>161933760
Bleach and FMA have become best seller because of the female audience as well. And that's the point: when it's shown on TV, the appeal expands, even when it is not something conscious.
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>>161933856
If Shueisha said Black Clover is the next Naruto, then HeroAca is the next Bleach.

One Piece hasn't even ended yet.
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>they want Black Clover to be the next Naruto
At best, it would be the next Toriko.
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>>161933856
BnHA is the next One Piece.
And no one wants the next Bleach. But maybe Kimetsu no Yaiba, if you want samurai fighting evil spirits, although Kimetsu seems to have a much better story.
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>BC centric thread became a thread that drags all battle shonens/shonens, old and new, along: OP, Naruto, Bleach, HxH, Toriko, FT, MHA, TPN, Kimetsu, Dr.Stone
Every.single.time
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>>161934040
>BnHA is the next One Piece
Not even in your wildest dreams
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>>161933912
Bleach and FMA had a lot of normalfags
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>>161934040
>BnHA is the next One Piece.
Are you alright on the head?
BnHa doesn't have potencial to became such power house as One Piece and i'm still not sure if it will ever get close to Naruto.
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>>161933385
Neverland and Stone will not last that long, at most I see Neverland lasting 5 or so years and Stone maybe 7, they want another 10+ years series which are the ones who bring stability to the magazine,Niggerlover can be dragged to oblivion
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While I do think Shonen Jump currently has better titles that deserve an adaption far more than Black Clover, I sort of understand why they'd want to push it like this. Its a mediocre series that somehow or another has survived getting axed so clearly some people like it. They probably think if they can improve on the source material in some way, they'll hit a wider audience like Naruto did. But I think what it really boils down to is; do we even want another Naruto? Why would we want a repeat of the same thing we've already seen in terms of popularity and ratings?

The thing that made Attack on Titan's popularity so crazy was that it was (clearly) never expected to hit such a mainstream audience. I don't think anyone could've predicted that the anime would be so insanely popular with EVERYONE. But is someone really going to sit down and try to recreate that? I don't think so, and even if they did they'd fail. Markets are only predictable to a certain extent and while you can take educated guesses, its still mostly a shot in the dark. Do you think anyone expected Kemono Friends to be so crazy popular? Do you think anyone expected Yuri on Ice to be so crazy popular? The studio can push BC as much as they want but they can't force the popularity, especially not if they're just trying to make Naruto 2.0. It ain't gonna happen.

What really needs an adaption, and will likely be the runaway success they're looking for, is The Promised Neverland. An anime will come eventually, thats almost guaranteed, but they shouldn't be focusing so much on BC when they have better chances of striking gold elsewhere. Even Kimetsu looks more promising than BC but I'm sure someone looked at the manga and said 'if follow the same formula we did with Naruto, we'll definitely have a hit on our hands' which isn't cool. Lets think outside the box maybe?
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>>161929448
They just want something as popular as Naruto again. Ideally they would want something to reach One Piece levels of success, but that will never happen.
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>>161933856
I doubt anything in our lifetime will reach One Piece levels. That shit is an anomaly.
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>>161934040
BnHA was state to be already 20% done when it was in 80 chapters (or 120 I forgot the specific). It would reach up to 600 at max. Although, Hori could've estimated wrongly, like w/ the sports festival arc which is something to be considered. It's not as long as One Piece, but he could make a sequel like what Naruto did if he/Shueisha wants to milk it more.
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>>161935406
>>161930119
That's the point. It's simply not possible to have a OP or Naruto-Bleach level of popularity again, well Naruto have a bigger popularity outside moonland but that's not really the point.

The point is, nowadays TV is not a dominating medium it once were back in late 90s-early 00s. Anime-manga now has to compete with all kinds of entertainment which are as easy or even easier to access e.g mobile games, cartoons, webcomics, etc.

And now with the shift to digital publishing it probably will get even harder to have a runaway success
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>>161930602
How so, lair. I don't see Black Cover showing tits and asses every chapter like fairy tail. Also, fairy tail was heavy on shipping even though the author gave a middle finger to a lot of ships.
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>>161934300
Appropriate for a manga that doesn't really have anything on its own.
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>>161929448
And black clover fans believe this better then naruto
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>>161936944
>Black Clover
>fans
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>>161934636
>potencial
Oh, Juan, you silly goose. It's obvious that nothing will quite reach OP levels ever again, but quality-wise, BnHA is way above the compatition - just like OP.

>>161935618
Yeah, I doubt that estimate would be accurate and it should be pretty easy for Horikoshi, who has a lot of ideas, to extended it beyond initial plans.
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>>161934409
But it is not because of them that sales have grown, believe me.
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>>161935167
So you don't think an anime full of effeminate men like Yuri on Ice would generate the success it has generated? C'mon. Before the debut many already said that it would be Free 2.0. And it was.
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>>161934636
In terms of sales, nothing currently stands to match the manga made fifteen years ago. Shit, the only manga that can reach 1 million now is OP, HxH and SnK. Times have changed.

But when it comes to global popularity, Boku no Hero is far from a disappointment.
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>>161937782
>So you don't think an anime full of effeminate men like Yuri on Ice would generate the success it has generated? C'mon. Before the debut many already said that it would be Free 2.0. And it was.

It went beyond Free's success as it nailed the LGBT, mostly gay, community in a perfect storm
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>>161929448
Black Clover is worse than Naruto.
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>>161938780
I believe in shueisha taste
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>>161938780
>cucks

Just say "faggots", you crossboarder.
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>>161929448
It's worse. Black Clover's mangaka is following the example of modern day video game companies and their usage of DLC:

He's taking characters from the lite novel spin-off and writing them into the manga like they've always been there as if to say "Hey! You have no fucking clue who these characters are?! Buy the LNs to find out!"
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>>161938744
The appeal to fujoshis is 90% of what made the series famous. And that was already obvious in advance. If it were a gay series in Tsuki Ga Kirei style, no one would mind.

And you said that Neverland is a better option. Maybe you're right. Depending on the director, it can turn into a hit. BUT there is a reason why SnK and Death Note, series with which Neverland is usually compared, have exploded: they are full of death and stakes. Neverland is full of people talking and escaping death with keikaku. Let's see if the audience will care for this.
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>>161938806
Fuck off narutard
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>>161930209
I think Shueisha is counting their chickens before they hatch. You can't force a series into popularity. Popularity comes from how much a work resonates with readers. Black Clover is a flash in the pan that will be forgotten quickly like Toriko.
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>>161931349
Toriko was the worst parts of Hunter x Hunter starring the retarded foodie cousin of Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star. Toriko is dogshit.
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>>161939018
I hate Naruto too you faggot. Doesn't change the fact that Black Clover is the worst parts of Naruto mixed with the worst parts of Fairy Tail.
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>>161939213
But two minuses make a plus so does that mean Nigger Clover is good?
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>>161939242
Haha, no.
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>>161939000
What about Krone and Norman? Granted the last one is probably not true but hey.
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>>161929448
Black Clover is a pretty cut and dry shounen manga but it doesn't fuck around or paint itself as anything but (looking at literally every SJ manga).

>Naruto
Started out as a cool magic ninja manga about an orphan. Turned into EVERYONE FIGHT EVERYTHING EVER. Magic is """ninjutsu"""

>Bleach
Started out as a really nice story about a kid who sees ghosts. Turned into EVERYONE FIGHT EVERYTHING EVER. Magic is bankai shit.

>BnHA
Started out as an interesting take on government-operated superheroes with a nice underdog story. Turned into EVERYONE FIGHT EVERYTHING EVER.

Black Clover? Its magic. Its about being magic and an underdog with no magic. Then there's bad guys with magic and people fight. It's cliche as fuck. Nothing about is original, but it isn't pretentious and that's what makes it fun.

Also Third Eye are fucking rad and can't wait to see them animated.
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>>161934040
>BnHA is the next One Piece.
BnHA is the new HxH. Madman kid with green hair, traps, creepy guys, strategies, sick author, hiatus.
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>>161931349
Toriko is not masterpiece, but it is a fun read.
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>>161939357
>What about Krone and Norman?
If well directed, they can certainly make the series explode until Ray's fake death, when everyone dropped the series .
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>>161931153
The anime is popular enough to warrant a movie,
but unless you can post some source,you stretching way to far it brah
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It will be the new naruto. Whether you like it or not. To the grown fanbase it might not be. However to children in weebland they will love it like they love naruto. In ten years BC will be the new nurutu of /a/
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>>161939487
Bnha is the next assasinatiin class room numbnuts
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>>161939487
Who's going to be his shojo waifu like Togashi and Sailor Moon?
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>>161939487
That's a pretty surface level comparison as expected from bnhatards.

bnha is just a copy of nardo with some switches here and in there in plot and characters but the fight scenes are a lot more shit.
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>>161936981
Fuck off
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>>161939682
And Assassination Classroom the next ____?
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>>161939686
The author from Kimetsu.
>>161939687
Are you mad?
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>>161939571
I'm still reading it but that was garbage. Even Norman coming back would be less of an asspull. If they at least hadn't made the match actually drop as a cliffhanger I could've excused it.
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>>161939708
Anon, don't tell me you actually like Nigger Clover.
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>>161939744
>Nigger Clover
Back to /pol/, subhuman
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>>161939756
>Saying "nigger" in any board in 4chan means you are from /pol/

How new are you?
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>>161939687
Salty bnhatards dont like black clover become the next naruto
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BC will be the next naruto.

The children who bother to their parents to buy them the merch or the volumes will have this as apart of their childhood. They will connect more with it than they would with bleach or hxh or "lemme read 800 chapters" one piece. And this goes for all the new titles such as neverland or robot. I know it's a hard pill to swallow but it's not like YOU contribute anything to the weeb industry.
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>>161939737
Is Norman coming back an asspull though? Ray definitely was but Norman? Really?
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>>161939775
>defending not being from /pol/ this hard
Not as new as you. Back to your containment board.
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>>161939737
>If they at least hadn't made the match actually drop as a cliffhanger I could've excused it.
That was the worst thing for me too.
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>>161939744
I do.

Your point?
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Does this shit get a fighting tournament at some point? On volume 6 and it hasn't yet. Getting board of this midnight sun faggots too.
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>>161939780
In fact, BnHA fans are happy, they never liked the comparisons with Nardo.
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>>161939884
But the next naruto mean the next big hit
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>>161939823
It depends on the explanation they are going to give.
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>>161939884
They fear if its sell million per vol like naruto
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>>161939000

I'm the original anon you quoted, and like other dude said, Yuri on Ice far surpassed Free. And that was kind of my point, that something thats popular can definitely inspire future works but to actually shoot for that same level of popularity is a little naive because you never know what exactly the audience will take to. Free was very popular and I have no doubt that its success helped YoI get funded, because there was now precedent, but Yuri crushed Free and everything elses sales that season. And its still going. I bet the YoI staff hoped for Free level sales if everything went well, not the international hit that the series would become.

But thats another thing too though. You can't attribute its success just to 'pretty boys' because those are dime a dozen in anime. You can find pretty boys in some of the worst series out there but that doesn't make them popular. YoI had something in its storytelling that complimented the attractive character designs and thats why it was a success. I watched it and I liked it but it wasn't something I lost my mind over so I can't say what exactly made it resonate with fans so much. I personally enjoyed Kuroko better, as far as sports series go, but I digress. A popular anime has to have some kind of life to it (the only way I know how to say it) and I just don't see that spark in Black Clover that would take it anywhere near Naruto levels.

As far as Neverland goes, I do think its a series that would benefit greatly from an anime because there are certain things that can only be conveyed through animation, rather than still pictures. The escape arc was great in manga form, so with the proper music, VA's, animation, and the right director to really give it that oomph, I think it would really hit big with a wide audience. You've got a female lead, cute boys, nuanced villains, an interesting and mysterious world setting, and enough tension to maintain that shonen high stakes vibe all the most popular series have.
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>>161939942
Can they really fuck up that bad? Just say he's working with the demons or something.
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>>161939845
Wow, such shit taste.
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>>161939905
Well, BnHA is a hit. Not at Nardo's level because this is impossible nowadays (even Haikyuu can not sell as much as Bleach sold at its peak), but is still a hit.
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>>161939424

How you gonna' steal Gintoki's head and dye his hair black though? Black Clover looks like nothing but thinly veiled plagiarism from what I've seen of the series.
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>>161940077
They are the brainwash villain not the real villain
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>>161940040
At least my taste involves mangas with superior girls.

Protip: noelle will be the next hinata/Nami/Rukia
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What the fuck is black clover
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>>161939842
Bad wording, I just meant to imply Ray's was way worse. There are reasonable explanations for Norman but Emma going full ninja doesn't make a good case for Ray.
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>>161933609
Kimetsu and neverland is valid but dr stone is same as black clover push
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>>161940187
Meant for >>161939823
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>>161930209
Toriko didn't flop though.
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>>161935967
But the fanservise is like fairy tail
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>>161940210
Oh fuck off. Obviously nip children like retarded shit like stone and BC. Do you pay for a jump subscription? For new chapters? No now fuck off
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>>161940226
Because it fail become the next one piece
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>>161940187

See, this is something that I think would make more sense and seem less like an asspull in an animated format. I'm not saying it wasn't a kind of crazy plot twist, to make us think Ray was dead or badly injured for a whole week, but this isn't the first time thats happened in Shonen Jump history either. The anime can show us more than the manga did if they get a good budget and director, like if Emma was moving closer before he dropped the match or how close she was actually standing from him. Catching a match isn't an inhuman feat, totally possible, and I believe an anime would better convey that.
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Idk how people like Black Clover. From what I've seen of it, Asta curbstomps every single challege because his special snowflake ability is a counter to every single other power in the world in Black Clover. Also Asta as a character is more annoying than Naruto at his worst.
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>>161940257
That looks awful
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>>161940257
I want to fuck the ugly one.
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>>161940119
>Rukia
Don't you mean Orihime?
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>>161940077
Every shounen is a rehash. Gintama is no exception.
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>>161933701
>Just seeing the reception of the second season already shows this. BnHA could have been huge.

???
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>>161940413
nah
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Ah, so Black Clover is the next Toriko. Get ready for desperate crossovers and undeserved shilling to try and jumpstart a following. It feels like they have no faith in the series to organically get a good enough following on its own if they come out and say "we want this to be the next Naruto".
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>>161940474
So, does it get better then?
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>>161929448
Atleast in anime asta not look retard
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>>161940545
lol.
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>>161940409
Right, it's just that it seemed that Emma was so surprised but in the next chapter she reveals she pounced like a tiger to get the match. She is pretty athletic though so it would've been less credible if it had been someone else. The anime could fix that scene though, can't judge something I haven't seen.
Maybe it also has to do with the fact that I'm reading it weekly and not in bulk. The cliffhangers wouldn't feel pointless otherwise.
I still think Norman's eventual return is a lot easier to explain though.
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>>161940514
Its new in shonen have harem for mc ?
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>>161940571
ayy lmao
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>>161939424
What do you mean third eye were rad? They were just disappointing jobbers.
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>>161940625
Yeah, but the MC having a harem makes the MC even more of a gary stu jesus, than Shonen MC's already are.
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>>161940643
They are just brainwash villain not the real big bad who want revive the demon
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>>161940002
I'm not saying that BC will reach Naruto level. Times have changed. Nothing else sells like that. My point is that originality has never been synonymous for popularity. Mass appeal (and advertising, of course) make all the difference.

Mob Psycho is full of life, is very well produced and has a great story. But it will never be as famous as OPM, in fact, the anime did not even make the manga sell more than Black Clover.

About Neverland:
>The escape arc was great in manga form
It was too easy and full of plot conveniences and aspulls, but if the director knows how to use the media to his advantage, this can be ignored.
>You've got a female lead
This will be a great appeal for the western audience.
>cute boys
This will be a great appeal for the fujoshi audience.
>nuanced villains
I would not say nuanced (let's face it Mama and Krone are more plot devices than real people), but they are edgy, and people love this.
>an interesting and mysterious world setting
Yep.
>and enough tension to maintain that shonen high stakes vibe
Again, Neverland is a series in which people talk a lot and do little. The director needs to be careful or that will be a problem. People are bored with Made in Abyss precisely for being sold as a series full of stakes, but so far only have cute kids talking.
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>>161940802
>This will be a great appeal for the fujoshi audience.
please don't remind me.
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>>161940573
>>161940409
>but this isn't the first time thats happened in Shonen Jump history either.
Can you give me examples?

Because the problem of this in Neverland was not that Emma acted like a ninja, it was the storytelling that did not give any suggestion that something had happened in the interval between one page and another.
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>>161934885
I just want a Dr. Stone adaption so Boichi can get the anime that he deserves
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>>161940839
I can't wait for the dozens of Ray/Norman doujins even though the latter's entire character trait is that he wants to fuck his foster sister.
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>>161940471
not him but, the second season was immensely more famous than the first.
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>>161940839
Fujoshi appeal not mean bad thing
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>>161940413
>Asta curbstomps every single challege because his special snowflake
This only really applies to the chain guy and the ice guy. All the other big villains kick the living shit out of him.
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>>161940937
I might be remembering wrong because it's been months but didn't Ray dropping the match create an explosion? I faint recall seeing Emma run away from it at the end of the chapter. So how did she catch it in time? Unless I'm tripping here in which case, sorry.
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>>161941115
Who can counter anti magic if asta in full demon mode
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>>161941104
Fujo pandering isn't necessarily bad but there is literally zero pandering in Neverland.
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>>161941225
Have you actually read Neverland or?
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>>161941159
We have yet to see. All I'm saying is the only villains that Asta didn't really struggle with are the first two.

The diamond guy almost killed him. Yuno saved him at the last minute.
The necromancer almost killed him. That one captain saved him at the last minute
The elf with light magic almost killed him. Yami and other captains saved him at the last minute
The beast guy almost killed him. His nakama saved him at the last minute.
Etc. Etc.
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>>161941255
Yes? Ray and Norman talking is not pandering. Especially when it's established in chapter 4 that one of them is not a faggot.
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>>161941155
>So how did she catch it in time?
That's the point. The author made no suggestion that she might have prevented it. It was simply a pic with Emma screaming (cut) a pic with giant flames. So in the next chapter the author did a flashback implying that a lot happened between these two pics.
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>>161941380
I just checked the page in question, my bad. I remembered seeing Emma make a scared face but I thought it was in the same panel as the explosion and it's actually not in the very same frame. So I thought there was some fucking up involved. That's pretty shitty.
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>>161939905
>>161939949
Yeah remember when Toriko was going to be the One Piece/Dragon Ball? How did that turn out?
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>>161939424
>Started out as an interesting take on government-operated superheroes with a nice underdog story. Turned into EVERYONE FIGHT EVERYTHING EVER.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>161941599
Toriko is mistake but black clover is not
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>>161940339
It failed because the anime was garbage.
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>>161941847
>ah I have no power
>Oh wait my hero can give me, the underdog, power
>Now I have power I'll work my hardest
>BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO GRADUATE AND JOIN A SUPERHERO AGENCY

????
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>>161942774
Again what the fuck are you talking about? What the hell do you think the title MY HERO ACADEMIA means?
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>>161929448
It wont work, simply because Asta is nowhere near as interesting an MC as Naruto
While i enjoy BC, the absolute weakest part is how boring Asta is.
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>>161942867
Yeah, as much as people shit on Naruto (the character), he does have identifiable traits.
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>>161942867
I read black clover because yami
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>>161942847
Fucko one of the main villains literally hates the whole corporate/government aspect of heroes, how dense are you?
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>>161943151
Yeah you're an idiot. Next time actually read thr series before you hitpost
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>>161942945
Both asta and yami is cool
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>>161943199
He literally says the whole aspect of that takes away from the definition of heros / heroics. But yeah, I'll be the one to fuck off, you dumb nigger
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>>161940226
Yeah that's why it got cancelled three years before the manga ended right?
>>161942175
So is the OP anime. What's your point?
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>>161943243
>He literally says the whole aspect of that takes away from the definition of heros / heroics
>He

Also stop posting. Everyone has seen how stupid you already are at this point.
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Shōnen will never sell like it once did.

A big takeoff for Shōnen was when they decided to air shows like Dragonball and Naruto semi-regularly in the burger-lands. Switching through channels, young kids and teens alike would see the cool moments and get hooked. The chances of that happening with the recent lineup are slim considering Toonami only airs on Saturday. At 12:00 AM ->

To be blunt - plague the children.
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Black Clover is so fucking bad, how can nips not feel shame for it?
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>>161943669
Because it's actually quite fun
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>>161943697
I agree, it's pretty terrible and generic but I have fun reading it.
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Noelle is better than Sakura could ever be although that isn't hard.
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>>161945459
>BC characters being better than anyone
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>>161945459
>You are weak
>I am strong now
>Oh no she's strong now
>Lose
Great character development, Tabata. Really fooled people with le epic action panel.
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That particular thing has been happening since the temple arc.

Still somewhat more useful than Sakura.
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>>161929801
At least Black Clover is consistent. BNH went to complete shit after chapter 97.
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>>161946621
Yeah manga flop
Anime flop
Low rating low sales
Season 3 never
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>>161929448
Shueisha now have black clover the next naruto they can axed boku no hero for good
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>>161945999
Sakura is one of the strongest characters in the show nigga, what the fuck
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>>161946621
BC is consistent at being bad, I agree.
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>>161929448
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if Naruto is such a dumbass who takes a long time to learn a new skill, how did he learn Kage Bushin so quick and effortlessly from reading that forbidden scroll for two seconds?
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>>161947874
Because Naruto actually was Jesus Christ Superstar reborn with alien chakra who was destined to become the no.1 in everything. And no, I didn't make this up, this is literally what happened in the last arc.
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>MC has a dream of becoming the best at something he is the worst at
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>>161939487
more like bnha is the new katekyo hitman reborn
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>>161949536
>katekyo hitman reborn
It was good series until the future arc.
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>>161947138

Someone doesn't know the difference between useful and strongest
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>>161950856
No it wasn't, Reborn was never fucking good
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>>161930119
Where? Because in Japan Attack on Titan sells more volumes than Naruto volumes ever sold
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>>161953383
>Because in Japan Attack on Titan sells more volumes than Naruto volumes ever sold
Cool horseshit bro
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I don't watch the BnHa anime second season yet but why some anons here mention it get poor ratings? It's true?
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Duneon Meshi sells half a million with each volume
no anime
no promotion
no popular magazine

it has a real chance in becoming the next big thing
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>>161940257
that is so chaat.
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>>161953571
Haters. Its always on the weekly top 10
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I thought Boku no capeshit was the new Naruto?
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>>161947128
Are you a spic?
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>>161933912
Shonen Jump readership by series (in the image):
-Haikyuu: 66,8% female 33,2% male
-Gintama: 63,8% female 36,2% male
-One Piece: 51,8 female 48,2 male
-Bleach: 50,7 female 49,7 male
-Naruto: 45,6 female 54,4 male
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>>161929448
If it's the reverse Naruto, I'd be happy...Naruto peaked early and then went entirely into legacy territory for the majority of its run...Black Clover was mediocre from the start so if it can then make something great out of it, that'd be enjoyable because it does have potential with some interesting characters that could use a better story
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>>161953452
Going by Oricon sales, Attack on Titan came to sell sold 2 million copies by volume in 2014, 2015 and 2016, and nowdays still sell more than 1,5 millions by volume
Naruto sold 1,2 or 1,3 million copies by volume since we can see the Oricon sales (since 2008).
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>>161947138
Being strong on paper and in reality are not the same thing

Like Oda can write a pretty female character and say she's one of the strongest so he can draw a nice female design but then offscreen everything she does because he doesn't like women fighting (Smoothie)

Noelle just beat one of her life's biggest adversaries like it was nothing rather than needing the MC to do it which isn't a normal thing in Jump
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