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>not a single isekai show next season Is it finally over?

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>not a single isekai show next season
Is it finally over?
Has Japan finally woken up?
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>>161887619
SAO III is coming. This is merely a quiet before the storm.
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>>161887619
>SAO Movie DVD in a few days from release
>finally over
>Japan realising that they have the shittiest taste

You are the one to must wake up
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>>161887619
Is Umaru not an isekai?
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>>161887619
''tis the calm before the storm my friend.

Shield Hero and Death March are already over the horizon.

If Japan eats those up we'll know then that everything truly has gone to shit.
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>>161887683
SAO isn't an isekai.
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Just wait until they decide to animate the alicization arc. The first actual isekai in SAO.
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>>161887619
>Has Japan finally woken up?
No, they're just sick of these real life NEET authors self inserting themselves into them where they're surrounded by girls all day.
It's getting really old and annoying. There's no dedicated story, it's just the original author's self insert getting what he can't get in real life.
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>>161887619
No. Isekai LNs are still selling well, and many of them don't even have an anime yet. Expect to start seeing 2 or 3 every season for the next few years.
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>>161888431
>it's a "one of your favorite mangaka gets assigned into adapting a trash isekai after his original manga got axed" arc
End my suffering senpai.
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>>161888358
>NEET authors
That's an oxymoron if I ever saw one.
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>>161887619
Why is Konosuba still the only good isekai Japan has made?
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>>161889696
Being a writer, especially a WN/LN writer isn't a real job.
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>>161889744
Because the author understood how to make a fun and relateable MC with heroines that have depth and actual human emotion instead of just cock hungry memes with faces and different colored hair.
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>>161889744
Konosuba has been shit for a while now though.
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>>161887619
Dies Irae takes so much suspension of disbielive that they couldn't fit Isekai anime
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>>161889696
Didn't the author of Welcome to the NHK spent years as a hikki?
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>>161889744
Kazuma has an actual personality, is acknowledged to have been a pathetic NEET who died in a pitiful, loser manner for no reason, and acts primarily in his own self interest.
The girls are just as dysfunctional as he is, Kazuma is the only isekai protagonist I'd say actually deserves the harem he got, and I don't mean that in a positive way.
Fantasy australia as a setting is entertaining without the autistic overabundance of exposition that every other isekai feels the need to vomit out how THEIR not-D&D setting is totally different than the hundred other iterations, and instead mostly serves as a backdrop for character comedy.

It's fun, which a lot of garbage isn't.
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>>161889993
t. Salty Lalatinafag
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>>161888019
No but the quality is
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>>161887683
THERE WAS A SECOND SEASON OF SAO? And I'm not talking about the second cour, an actual S2?
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>>161890066
He joined a cult
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>>161890066
You can be a NEET or an author but not at the same time. The moment you start selling a book about being a NEET is the moment you stop being one.

Also hikki aren't necessarily NEETs, they just tend to be because being a shut in is poisonous to your employment prospects.
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>>161890070
I like how the author's approach to worldbuilding is to take a shallow poorly thought out fantasy setting and instead of correcting the mistakes just takes them to their logical horrible conclusions instead.
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>>161888293
It might as well be. Underworld is pretty much isekai lite.
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>>161890117
Go back to gaia
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>>161887619

Americans like isekai probably more than Japan does. People with small powerlevels (and intelligence) love shit like SAO.
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>>161890066
He did and he's still one also, I read the LN and the afterword was saying he got better for a while but fell back into being a truNEET
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>>161890322
It's literally Kawahara's take on isekai right as it started getting hot on Narou. He just shoehorned it in to fit the setting.
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why do japs have such shit taste in anime?
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>>161890117
stop posting
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>>161888256
you forgot arifureta
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>>161890533
You can stop forcing this meme now that even the fujoshit-hijacked ranking ended up being superior to MAL, ANN etc.
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>>161888256
>>161890750
I'm actually looking forward to these. Isekai is fun.
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Isekai Smartphone killed the genre.
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>>161890117
You're not that cool
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>>161890750
I hope loli vampire gets lots of porn.
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>>161889744
You have shit taste and you are retarded. Hiw can you say such dumbshit when The Twelve Kingdoms exists or the dozen other Isekai that happened in th 90's and 00's.
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>>161889840
if they make money off of it, then it's a job.
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>>161892502
yada yada yada yada- shut up
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>>161892389
>>161891989
hoping there's no shitposting.
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>>161888358
>NEET authors
That's not how it fucking works moron.
NEET=/=Hikkikomori
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>>161890070
>Kazuma is the only isekai protagonist I'd say actually deserves the harem he got
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>>161894991
Villainess Tensei LNs and WNs. I can't get enough of Reika-sama, Iris, Camille and Bakarina.
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>>161895094
>Reika-sama, Iris, Camille and Bakarina
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>>161889744
Because you are an insufferable ironic weeaboo
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>>161887619
>Kazuma starts out as an interesting character with amusing personality and a ton of flaws that make him unpopular
>eventually turns into an extremly capable adventurer despite his uselessness that every girl in the series wants to fuck

Every parody that drags on for too long eventually falls into the same traps it originally tried to make fun of
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>>161889744
>Re:Zero
>not good

Wut?
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>>161892211
I don't know how anyone can hate that show it's like the most innocent sao rip
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>>161895456
this must be bait
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>>161895456
>Re:Meme
>good

tell me you're joking
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>>161893867
>hoping there's no shitposting.
Don't be delusional.
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>>161896040
>>161895923
Reminder that almost everytime people show up to shitpost about re:zero they're usually proven wrong
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>>161890070
Kazuma is just another degenerate NEET who got Isekaid and now half a dozen girls want to ride his dick for no reason because in this other world he is totally rich and cool. Only difference with most Isekai out there is that he is an asshole, which is not much of a change.
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>>161896219
than why is it so god damn entertaining!!!!!??
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>>161896303
muh scapism
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>>161895033
No one deserves the harem
All isekai MC's are pieces of shit made just for the self-insert faggots
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NOW SICNE THIS IS A KONOSUBA THREAD

i have a question for everyone that have read volume 11 chapter 4 tranquility princess:
It was not necessary to kill the tranquilty princess. she didn´t actively try to seduce her victims, like the tranquility girls. All she did was to give the ones that wanted to die a peacefull death. She was basically just a suicid pill with the extra of an peacefull ending. The only reason to kill her was that she gave a bad picture of the town of Axel not being able to kill her. that´s it. apart from that, only benefits from her.
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>>161887619
My main problem with Isekai is that it's always High Fantasy Middle Ages Western Europe

Literally a lot of more settings of other periods and regions and cultures yet the Authors just take the easy way out by using the default popular one

Sure it's better than Hollywood and pulls off the middle Ages Europe setting better but more diversity would help
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>>161896441
bullshit. it is really funny. while reading the LN i bursted out in luaghter several times.
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>>161896629
She represented something that the author, and by extension Kazuma, hated. Those girls that look nice and acts all sweet and harmless, but deep down just want to take your money and soul. Every time she uses up one man, she moves onto the next without a second thought about the life she just ruined and all of the money she leached.

Kill all tranquility girls and any derivatives on sight. Just do it.
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>>161896695
>My main problem with Isekai is that it's always High Fantasy Middle Ages Western Europe
But it's literally not.
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Well since we're here and the anime is in the works, what do you think of the story in the shieldbro LNs/Manga so far?
what are some changes done in the story that you like or dislike?
what do you think of this fishing lady?
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>>161887619
I hope not, i'm sure january is going to blow their load with Isekai's.
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>>161897090
wel that is some next level self insertion
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>>161888293
Technically not but it sure as hell is related to the whole isekai "boom".

>>161889744
Overlord, Log Horizon, Tanya, NGNL and hataraku maou-sama are all pretty good or even great. (Maou-sama is reverse isekai so I'll count it here)
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Explain to me why we have all read so much Isekai /a/, why is this stuff so addicting? And please don't just answer with a "it's fun" or "escapism".
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>>161892502
> the dozen other Isekai that happened in th 90's and 00's.

Were those really "isekai" though? Modern Isekai anime/LNs is pretty different in tone, pacing, and feel than past stories that used "sent to another world" as a plot device.
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>>161890287
Any stand out examples of this?
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>>161897579
....

Why do we even eat apples?
>Don't just say they're tasty or nutrition
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>>161897662
Nirvana is just like something from early 00's.
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>>161897579
> "escapism"
that is the reason though

plus on occasion a work does something nice with it, like
konosuba - funny comedy
overlord - actually pulls off "evil" and strong MC well, it really is fucking refreshing when the guy isn't particularly altruistic
log horizon - the creator actually understand something about gaming and it shows
NGNL - the games are a fun gimmick
and whatever

so I always keep hoping for the new ones to be good.

>>161897662
yeah I wouldn't count anything from the 90s at least, makes no sense, might as well start calling alice in wonderland isekai
maybe shit like ZnT, that is already kinda modern and a LN and has surely affected the new wave
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>>161897716
It's pretty clear the anon is asking for an answer that's longer than six words.
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h-hey guys, remember me?
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>>161897579
It's pure escapism though. Re:Zero was trash, but I watched the whole fucking thing. Because deep down I desperately want to live in that medieval world of magic with lame ass flute music playing in the background. I think it's cool. There's no life and death stakes in the real world, no such thing as honor, no fair maiden's heart to win.

Can you imagine being a Jap? They work and study insane hours compared to the west. If we want escapism, can you just imagine what they want? Other than to kill themselves I mean.
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>>161895456
>>161896040
I think Re: Zero used some lazy excuses to move the plot; some things looked really forced to happen... worst of all was how the MC couldn't tell anyone about his situation because a literal invisible force kills him if he tries for no apparent reason.
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>>161897926
kills him or people.
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>>161896303
because you are easily entertained. Why do you think shitty sitcoms are so popular?
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>>161897993
I hate sitcoms, but I find Konosuba is sooo funny
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>>161897895
>be nip salaryman
>life ends after highschool
>vicariously live as a little girl in b-list children's cartoons
sounds about right
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>>161898022
Konosuba is a sitcom
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>>161897993
Konosuba is seriously one of the best anime comedies to come out in the past couple years though.
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>>161889744
>Konosuba
>good
Nice joke.
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>>161898055
>Konosuba is a sitcom

Nah. Sitcom isn't a genre anime does often.

Working!! is a sitcom. Konosuba is, in terms of genre, a comedic adventure story.
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>>161898059
>same few gags over and over again
>no progress at all towards defeating the demon king
s2 was pretty flat
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>>161897895
But I don't read Isekai for the escapism!
I read and watch it because I legitimately enjoy the world building that happens around the start of every Isekai, the exploration esque is one of the best parts of this genre that is almost never properly explored in other adventure genre's, It's basicallly fantasy but with a good excuse so that we can skip right through to getting to know the world, as the MC himself isn't already aware of how everything works and we just have to take everything for granted.

The MC understanding, discovering and interacting with the unknow world is something that other works rarely make it work properly, with usually only doing it a bit and then skipping right through to the plot after they think it's enough. They always create all these amazing systems for magic or cities and never really elaborate on them, which is something that Isekai tends to do a lot, aswell as actually making use of that information as you can read the MC deduce stuff in his monologue.

Rather, this is one of the reasons why I always hate when Isekai's try to push down "plot" on your throat, they lose their only good aspect when they give up the exploration esque.
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>>161898096
They defeated another of the demon king's commander
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>>161887619
Why is everyone got isekai after death? After death there is nothing, religion is for making money and slaves.
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>>161898096
>same few gags over and over again

This isn't accurate though. Yes like any comedy it has its running gags, but there was plenty of new material

The entire Axis Cult was amazing.

>no progress at all towards defeating the demon king

That literally does not matter. "Plot progression" isn't *that* important to a comedy. The plot gives the set up, motivations for the characters, and vehicles for the jokes.
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>>161896303
>>161896696
This is the state of /a/ in 2017
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>>161898089
Its a sitcom in terms of structure. The world is mainly a backdrop for the characters to do their usual comedy shtick in different situations and locations.
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>>161898166
let me guess, you have read so much manga and watched so much anime, that basically every story is the same for you. is their even anything entertaining left for you?
examples?
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>>161887619
Would you guys read a story about a heroic, youthful swordsman from a fantasy world waking up one day in modern day Earth, and being taught how to function as a normal person by a cute but bitchy businesswoman who takes him in as a grunt worker in her corporation after he saves her life?
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>>161898197
Sitcoms have fixed backdrops though.

Cheers has the bar. MASH had their hospital tents, Working!! had the restaurant. Dozens of "family sitcoms" had the main characters home and neighborhood.
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>>161898149
I don't have a proofs for saying that too.
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>>161898223
go back to crunchyroll please.
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>>161889744
Sup
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>>161898282
>gender roles are reversed.
it's shit
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>>161898166
>liking things unironically is bad
Oldfags, everyone.
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>>161898310
how does it feel to be gayer than /co/?
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So now that the dust has settled can we all agree that SAO is actually good and one of the best isekais?
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>>161898233
Already done.
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>>161897102
You post that like that isnt some sort of reverse isekai, which the story insinuates it is.
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>>161898341
>being a femdom fag
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>>161898246
One of the main criticisms of Konosuba's second season was that they didnt move out of the starting town until the final arc when they added some one "backdrops" and even that was just for a short while before returning back in the end. The mansion and the adventurer's guild are the main locations things happen in.
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>>161897895
Glad to see someone being honest about it. Escapism is not a bad thing; before the realist movement in literature, the majority of fiction provided escapism in one way or another, and it has been that way since the very first mythos. There's nothing wrong with wanting to look away from reality and using isekai to do it, I'd much rather abandon everything and live in a fantasy world or in a Gundam-like setting than pursue my monotonous everyday life. It's no wonder pic related became a Internet icon, she was completely right.
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>>161898367
What's its name then, and is it shit?
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Miss my yet?
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>>161898434
>Haruhifags on /a/
Gross
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>>161898444
Who is that kid and why is he wearing Shirou's justice jacket
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>>161898451
>implying I still like Haruhi
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>>161898395
How can it be reverse if it takes place in another world?
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>>161898399
>femdom
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>>161898434
>It's no wonder pic related became a Internet icon, she was completely right.
Or we were all like 15 back then and it was one of the first real anime people had seen.
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>>161898444
>>161896629
Is it wrong I just realized both Subaru and Kazuma wear track suits? Is this the secret to entering the other world?
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>>161898434
>implying I can't enjoy fiction for what it is and everyone is just trying to escape reality
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>>161898533
Its just "lazy kuso human" wear.

Saito did it as well.
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>>161894991

My favorites right now are Vending Machine Reincarnation, Ascendance of a Bookwork, and Release that Witch, and all of them have slow as fuck translations.

Catching up on A Hero's War, CatoxLandar a cute.
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>>161898533
Yes, they are secretly tools for travel between the worlds. Unfortunately sometimes adventurers die to orcs who then steal their tracksuits. Thats how Slavs appear in our realm.
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>>161889744
Stop watching shitty versions of it. Now and Then, Here and There and Twelve Kingdoms. The current Isekai genre targets Neets/shut-ins who have done nothing in their pathetic lives and will never will, so they watch this genre as a way out, pure escapism.
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>>161898575
My point is that there's nothing with escapism, it's just another way to enjoy fiction.
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>>161898575
This. Also virtually every hobby can be (and is) used as escapism. I don't understand why this term is mostly used for anime, videogames etc.
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>>161898755
'cause this stuff can be more blatant in the escapism-ness

there's plenty of art that doesn't really let the consumer escape reality, too, particularly if we go to literature - this is less common in anime and vidya
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>>161887619
>>not a single isekai show next season
I see at least 2 on MAL.
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I really don't understand Re:Zero hate why /a/ hates it?
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>>161899180
>goes nowhere
>doesn't use its gimmick very well (gimmick is the death thing)
>in fact, uses it in such a way that the girls falling for the MC makes even less sense than usual
>MC is really fucking stupid and autistic, even by anime MC standards
>introduces nice characters, forgets them
>goes absolutely nowhere, doesn't really finish or advance anything interesting the anime started in those 26 episodes
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>>161899180
It's popular and it's bad.
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>>161899180
There were countless threads when it was airing, the hate is only after the show became incredibly disappointing but also popular.

I would have rated it a 7.5/10 up until episode 15. But it went downhill so quickly after that it ended up being a 4.5/10 for me.

It had great music, voice acting, an interesting world and premise - - but the main character is fucking atrocious. Subaru is incredibly unlikable and his actions make no sense. Nothing he does is reasonable in the slightest.

Not to mention, it looked pretty clear that they ran out of budget halfway through the series. All of the action sequences in the second half had shoddy animation.
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>>161899180
It's a world saturated with interesting places and people, and it focuses on the dullest and dumbest character possible. No-one cares about Subaru's story, I'd happily watch a show from the perspective of basically any of the other characters, even the god damn appa salesmen.
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>>161887619
Im glad the fad is over, reeeeeeeee:zero and memesuba were cancer.
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>>161899326
makes sense, sad to see everyone here wanting another OP mc story...

Subaru being stupid is kinda reasonable I mean he is a useless NEET after all, only pathetic people are like this.
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>>161899349
This is why I absolutely despise Re:Zero rather than just going meh at it.

I won't hate that smartphone isekai thing for example, it is simply bad - Re:Zero has some potential and nice parts but fucks everything up. It focuses on the wrong things and doesn't do those things very well.
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>>161899269
>goes nowhere
This is my biggest complaint. Absolutely nothing is explained or revealed after 2 cours, whats the fuck is that about? Subaru is literally in the real world, blinks, and then he isn't. He doesn't question it at all and we never find out what the fuck or why that happened. It spends 2 seasons of him sperging out building up not to some great battle or event of worldly significance, but to him confessing his love to Emilia which is no what I fucking signed up for.
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>>161899457
But that's not the main problem, at least for me. Subaru was the most annoying piece of shit ever yet somehow he was the only interesting character. Every other character has too little screentime or is bland as fuck.
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>>161899180
>give incredibly cool premise
>amazing OP/ED & soundtrack
>hire some of the best VAs in years
>produce glorious character and world designs
>be one of the few mainstream shows that actually shows gore and violence
>do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it
It's a 1/10 for getting my hopes up and dashing them.
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>>161899457
I am pretty sure useless neets aren't super social and outgoing. Nothing about his character makes sense.
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>>161897483
>Overlord, Log Horizon
>good
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>>161899630
...Did you watch episode 18?
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>>161898282
I want to kill myself to be reborn in this world
inb4 Im reborn a girl
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>>161899588
Rem and Ram were pretty decent, their backstory was nice and all.

I kinda liked that green evil guy, too, not that he was special but his scenes were fairly entertaining for re:zero standards.
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>>161899637
How are they not good?
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>>161899637

>hating on Log Horizon when the list included Tanya and HataMaou

???
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>>161899645
Is that the one where the show actually spent 25 minutes on a single autistic conversation? I don't care if he says he was just pretending the whole time, that's the point, you wouldn't be a loser NEET if you could pretend.

Fuck Re:Zero, it literally began with Subaru in a convenience store starring at a couple longingly. It promised me an MC I could empathize with and instead I got this totally unrealistic retard.
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>>161887619
Well in exchange we have one of the worst seasons ever so I can't really say it's a good thing.
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>>161899722
This might be the first time I've ever not watched a single airing show for 2 seasons in a row. Anime is kill.
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>>161899716
>he here's this useless neet
>...except he works out to become strong as fuck and can pretend to be a social hard worker by being a social hard worker!

that said, he IS genuinely fucking autistic and the other characters should hate him, so I guess that part still makes sense
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>>161899757
Hey man Kino is next season so there's at least 1 show worth watching.
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>>161899645
>hikki neet
>has a six pack
>can easily talk to anyone
>makes friends everywhere he goes
>gets a literal job his first week in another world
See that's the thing, how can he do all these things and then give that rant about not being able to do anything? Nothing about Subaru is consistent or sensible.
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>>161899795
Why remake something that doesn't need to be remade? The original was excellent 10+ years ago.
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>>161899663
Yeah the twins having their own personality was cool. But as I said, ram has little to no screentime after the mansion arc and rem's whole personality becomes "Subaru-kun daisuki!!!". Also the green ahired guy has to be the worst example of the lulsocrazy villain.
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>>161899856
furthermore, he is doing all this while enduring intense emotional and physical pain several times (the deaths) and having to hide a big secret from everyone
and very little of it he does for selfish gain

subaru is a one punch man who talks like he is some tatsuhiro satou, plus yells and acts odd and autistic
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>>161898073
>your existence
even a funnier joke
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>>161899457
>makes sense, sad to see everyone here wanting another OP mc story...
But Subaru is OP, he's just also retarded.
>died like 100 times
>afraid of dying
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>>161896629
will she let me fondle her as i go to my eternal slumber?
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>>161900135
to be fair, he has no sure way to know whether he'll revive infinitely
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>>161899656
Why don't you just rape them? They'd like it anyway.
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>>161890493
Yeah that's fucking wrong. Alicization was written way before the isekai boom.
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>>161896629
Euthanazia is wrong so she deserved to die
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I have nothing against Isekai when it's done in an interesting way, my main problem is when the fact that the main character came from another world has little to no meaning to the story. The typical otaku/neet/loser/whatever dude that more commonly falls into the main character role is also boring to me, although I probably have no right to complain, since I enjoyed Outbreak Company.
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>>161900709
>my main problem is when the fact that the main character came from another world has little to no meaning to the story
depends on the work, really

in the MMORPG isekais, it often explains how you get strong-but-clueless characters in the odd world - which does have a big impact on how everything plays out (imagine log horizon or overlord except the transported character(s) instantly know everything about the world - completely different!)

in tanya or NGNL, the character(s) use their knowledge of the original world to their advantage - pretty big

in konosuba it really is more or less just an excuse to use words like NEET and stuff
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>>161900885
>in konosuba it really is more or less just an excuse to use words like NEET and stuff
Kazuma's knowledge of game logic and Japanese furniture has come in handy though./
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>>161899954
Dont forget literal spiritual pain.
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>>161899637
>Overlord
The books are mostly good. The anime was pretty much just done as a service to the fans.
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>>161898533
Listen man, you seem new so I'll give you some advice. Don't stay here. Leave sooner rather than later, or you'll find yourself a sad lonely husk like the rest of us.
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>>161901052
The anime is a great adaptation. It actually feels like a complete season of a show rather than just a LN ad.
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>>161898625
>Release that Witch
It had promise, but I found that it started to drag fairly quickly.
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>>161900885
That's only their abilities being relevant. No reason is given for why this person is in another world, or if one is given, it's something really dumb.
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>>161894991
Reading:
Kuro no Maou, which is super fucking slow but I've been reading it so long that I don't want to drop it.
Overlord (popular enough that no more needs to be said)
Warlock of the Magus World, a Chinese isekai that's translated at three chapters a day, and is pulpy as fuck.
Dungeon Defense, the number one Korean isekai in terms of western audience.
Your and My Asylum, also Korean and a romance about an insane murderer.
My Sisters in the Other World have no Restraint, which is about incest but also politics.
And most recently, Death Mage That Doesn't Want a Fourth Time, which is about a dhampir that's descriminated against so he goes to create a mighty city-state. It's quite good, though I think few people have heard of it since it's also quite new, and only about sixty chapters done so far.

>any you hope get a translation soon?
It's not isekai, but my eternal answer to this question will always be Miniskirt Space Pirates.
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>>161901263
Well yeah, that is true (usually).
But the concept is such thay you kinda can't make it make sense, except by "Gods want it"
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>>161898440
The devil is a part timer is waht you're looking for, or the closest thing
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>>161897579
Isekai has two advantages. First of all, it's easy to get into, because the protagonist doesn't know jack shit, so the setting comes in little bits at a time and is explained to you in a straightforward way by the narrator's thoughts, and he's as ignorant as you are.

Secondly, it's easy to stay into because the setting is typically simple (not that much to remember) and things are always happening.

tl;dr: It's escapism and also fun.
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>>161901117
Nice try but I've been here since summer.
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>>161899349
>the main character is fucking atrocious. Subaru is incredibly unlikable
This is subjective and not a flaw of the anime.
>and his actions make no sense.
This is objectively wrong. He's only hard to understand if you're incredibly fucking stupid.
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>>161901510
>because the setting is typically simple (not that much to remember)
Funny how this never applies to non-shit (not even saying good) isekai
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>>161901324
Warlock of the Magus World uses it beyond that, the second half is about hopping between dimensions and there was a foreshadowing that it may end with the protagonist causing his own original isekai.
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>>161901680
Name one good isekai with a setting that's heavily complicated relative to the number of volumes.
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>>161887683
>yfw SAO3 and inevitable Infinite Dendrogram anime end up airing in the same season
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>>161901649
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>>161901324
The MC of Nirvana might be a goddess who turned herself into a human as part of a plan to remove the divine influence over humanity. One of her party members is a guy who wears a trilby.
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>>161901131
The anime is just a high budget drama CD, that was specifically used as a LN Ad.
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>>161899269
I challenge anyone to name the motivations for a single character other than Subaru or REM. It's funny because the plot does mention a few of them in passing, but how many people walked away from Re:Zero and remember that Roswaal (this clown guy) is only supporting Emilia so has a chance to kill the dragon?
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>>161901302
>My Sisters in the Other World have no Restraint, which is about incest but also politics.
I am having as much fun reading this one, as I did reading Rishou no Himo, I should really just learn moon and start buying the books myself.
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>>161901680
I still find it as complete bullshit that the giant ass gulf was created by the original Sword God.
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>>161903106
>that Roswaal (this clown guy) is only supporting Emilia so has a chance to kill the dragon?
I thought he was supporting her so she could break the curse in sanctuary and he could get his hands on his Sensei dead body.
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>>161893867
>No shitposting on /a/
Might as well hope for no water in the sea as well, tripfag.
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>>161903252
I'm speaking purely about the anime, anon.
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>>161903332
Yeah the sea drying up is more likely to happen first
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>>161893867
That's as likely as the Shield Hero anime being good.
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Death March anime soon.
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>>161903536
>Another edgy MC
Awesome
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>>161903536
how soon is soon? no release given yet afaik
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>>161903582
No idea but they did a quick and fast PV last month. You would have to check Silver Link's schedule.
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>>161903451
We'll see about that anon
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No, the great isekai boom hasn't even begun yet. Re:Zero and Konosuba aired a little over a year ago. All of the LN clones are just starting or are at most 1-2 volumes in. Once they hit like 5-6 volumes they'll all get anime adaptations. So like winter 2019 will be the start of the boom.
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>>161903536
Fuck that, when are we getting the best Edgy MC and the best harem heroines?
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>>161903616
You got my hopes up.

Isekai as a genre is one of those so bad it's good type deals for me. I hate that I like it, but I do.
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>>161903931
So wheres the RE:Monster anime?
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>>161897114
When does it aire
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>>161904160
probably sometime at the start of the new year, either late winter season or spring.
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>>161904138
Currently giving poison to his mom because he thinks that rape victims should kill themselves.
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>>161904054
Almost done with volume 14. I was mostly interested with how he and his classmates would interact when he returned but since getting my fill of that Im just finishing the show because I have to.
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>>161904682
wait till you get to the end of the ice cave.
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>>161904909
anon... You cannot just post that without sauce. Is this from the LN?
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>>161904991
what are your thoughts on NTR?
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>>161905032
Doesn't bother me.
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>>161898627
Underrated
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>faraway paladin getting a manga by grimgar's artist
Damn all it needs now is a high quality anime and it'll be the peak of anime.
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>>161896695
What other settings would you like? I like the middle ages focus and frankly, I wish there was more of it outside of Isekai or MMO settings these days.
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>>161897845
All I remember is DT, DT, DT, DT and five o'clock shadow.
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>>161906054
This is the best fucking news ive heard all week, aside from Prostitutes getting butt mad that a Real Doll Waifu bordello was running them out of business.
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>>161906628
>that last bit
Huh?
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>>161906677
its a bit old, but i just found out about it.
http://archive.is/oQL9b
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Remember when Isekai was good?
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>>161906945
I remember nostalgia goggles being for faggots.
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>>161895033
I'd argue Impreza got the harem he deserved
A girl that will never love him and a girl that will never wake up
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>>161904054
>His waifu ended up encouraging him to cuck her with his other bitches.
I hate harems
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>>161887619
Have you missed the announcements? Shieldbro and Death March are confirmed and it seems like Arifureta anime will be announced this winter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjezREyZI2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr9eDrMDvL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glUBcN22t9s

I don't see it stopping anytime soon as long as the LN market is dominated by them.
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>>161906054
I'm interested in this, where can I read it? NU has 5 chapters out
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>>161889744
Log Horizon is good, you faggot
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>>161908313
What author do you currently want to visit /a/?
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>>161908455
Did he get out of jail?
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>>161908097
I really really hope these shows don't eat up the schedule and resources of other good shows. The last one in particular is probably the worst isekai I've ever seen.
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>>161908313
>Enjoying an Isekai that goes nowhere with it's plot even though it has tons of potential

I drew the line when there was an entire episode dedicated to a speech before a fight
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>>161908580
For shieldbro kinema citrus is doing the anime, were they doing anything before?

>>161908455
I'd like to ask aneko to release a data book. And ask aiya kyu to release a compilation of the book store bonus stuff for shieldbro that didn't get here. I'd gladly shell out some dough to import em if they don't get released here.
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>>161908582
>goes nowhere with it's plot even though it has tons of potential
thats become an isekai trope in itself.
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>>161908582
LH is interesting to watch because of the characters, not the plot.
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>>161908455
>tfw we'l never get a full Kanami, Go East! series or adaptation because author will never get out of jail for tax evasion

True suffering.
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>>161908707
Might wanna merge the food tropes to "muh superior japanese cuisine"
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>>161890353
Until LotR's popularity in the late 60s early 70s about 80% of American fantasy was isekai.
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>>161908707
I feel like the orc thing doesn't belong there, since that's a common staple of Japanese fantasy. I'm not sure if they even know there's a different kind of orc, or if it's like with Korean and Chinese where the green kind is translated to a different word that gets translated back as "barbarian".

Dragon and slavery are also very normal fantasy/historical things that don't seem particular to isekai novels.
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>>161908861
I got it from an isekai thread a few months ago, im sure there was a finished version better than this.
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>>161900597
The modern isekai cliches started getting punted around on the web a lot earlier than you think. Of course the light novel industry didn't capitalize on it until much later and the anime industry later still which is why you're only seeing isekai anime reach fever pitch right around now. But at the time of Kawahara started writing the Alicization web novel there were definitely already several shitty isekai WNs floating around in Narou.
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>>161909821
Zero spaces. What do I win?
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>>161903616
Did you watch the PV? It looked completely phoned in. Pretty obvious the publishers asked a PV from them, no matter the quality, to come along with the announcement. I mean they didn't even have any VA announcements yet.

I bet it's next year Spring.
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>>161897662
>Isekai no Seikishi no Monogatari
>not Isekai
You dont get to make up your own terms.
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>>161909940
The privilege of not having indulged in shit.
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>>161909821
i put a question mark in the "medieval world" thing because some parts of the various worlds had been modernized via past heroes knowledge or reverse engineering.
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>>161910016
The modern isekai wave is pretty distinct though. Nowadays the word is associated with some average noname Japanese school kid, or some otaku/shut-in, getting transported to some generic quasi-medieval fantasy land.

Yeah there are still isekai outside that, but they're not the first things that come to mind.
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>>161910352
>are those really "isekai" though
Yes they fucking are. You didn't make a stupid distinction between "modern isekai" and "not shit isekai".
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>>161908861
>>161909821

Medieval world/demon king/adventurer's guild shouldn't even be separate since these stories almost always borrow or are based on classic jrpg worlds which always include these three
Anyway, I find that the problem isn't really the overused clichés you find in Isekai, but instead the manner of which it's written.
RPG mechanics, OP MC, harems, modern day knowledge, that episode where MC wows the cast with modern day cooking, it's all fine, at least it would be if the writer had any self awareness to not play these things completely straight and seriously.
Completely broken MCs can work well, in comedies or something that isn't serious at all, but isekai is almost always a genre that's serious business, and these stories suffer with OP MCs because then there's really no sense of danger or risk when some bad guy shows up with a retarded motivation like marrying one of the MCs entourage.
Then there's also the problem that the MC is bland and inoffensive as fuck, or a complete edgelord.
The problem isn't isekai, rather it's shit writers that can't into interesting characterization or self control
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>>161910439
I'm not the same guy you originally replied to.
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>>161906054
Wow this great news.
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>>161895094
>>161895163
>No Eliza

So that's how it is huh.
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>>161900709
>>161898625
>Ascendance of a Bookwork

This series is autistic as fuck.
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>>161903536
Boring as all shit. Not to mention they keep shafting Liz as the story goes on.
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>>161897716
I'm hiding from that fucking doctor
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>>161889744
Excuse me, sir.
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>>161896629
Well when has not being necessary ever stopped people from doing things?
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>>161895094
Man Villainess Isekai is so good, it definitely need more MC that don't give a fuck when their engagement got annulled.
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>>161910016
>>Isekai no Seikishi no Monogatari
I love how much backstory there is in the isekai part. Too bad the show itself didn't touch upon it that much.
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>>161887619
There's half a billion highschool shows, millions of shows set in medieval Japan and thousands of medieval west. No one gives a single fuck. But come a show with Isekai setting, it's suddenly all the evil of the world. Have you, perhaps, tried posting this on reddit? I'm sure you'll get many upboats for your brilliant insight and exquisite taste there.
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>>161906054
Noice.
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>>161910318
You better watch your back because we're coming for you and your shit taste
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>>161910949
It's just a bunch of white boys niwakas that get acquaintance with the word Iseka for the first time.
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>>161898310
>>161898399
Seriously just fucking read it. Anyone with a working dick would kill to go into that world.
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>>161910949
>highschool shows
It's a staple of anime.

>medieval Japan
People like medieval Japan.

>medieval west
There hasn't been that many, and they aren't that popular.
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>>161910318
>>>/wsr/

>>161899856
Thats my problem with many Isekai protags. They are useless NEETs who never achieved anything in their lives in a world where it is 100 times easier to get your life in order, but once they get isekaid suddenly they are extremely ambitious, capable, and attractive. I originally thought Konosuba would do away with that but several volumes in and Kazuma was already in the wet dreams of four or five girls, rich as fuck, and for some reason capable of beating enemies and opponent much stronger than him for some unexplained reason. Why is never anyone actually talented or capable isekaid to show his adventures in a fantasy setting so that we see how the cream of the crop of our world fares there? Even someone like Tetsuo who has a regular job but a lot of scientific knowledge and well-trained body would work better than an useless NEET.
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>>161897845
Ixion was fucking great and I'll forever be sad because of no S2. It was like shitposting in anime form.
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>>161911209
>Why is never anyone actually talented or capable isekaid to show his adventures in a fantasy setting so that we see how the cream of the crop of our world fares there?
Because that would go against the wish fulfillment. What's the point of seeing an already successful person succeed again? Unless you actually want him to fail.

Although even wish fulfillment is mostly done wrong. I want to see a failure of our world work hard to succeed in the other world, and not rely on fucking "cheats". Or, if they do have some special talent, it should be a result of their actions in our world, not due to a literal god-given power.
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>>161910449
>but isekai is almost always a genre that's serious business
Are you fucking kidding me?
The only isekai that take themselves seriously are the edgefests. 99% are just mindless lighthearted comedic romps.
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I'm hoping 'Wrong way to be a healer' turns out decent. Any nip readers care to tell me if it stays ok?
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>>161911091
Let me remind you that most Japanese fantasy is medieval west.
It's super fucking popular.
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>>161911209
The whole point is they succeed because of fundamental knowledge about the world no-one from it could have.
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>>161911600
>99% are just mindless lighthearted comedic romps.
How many actually stay that way to the very end?
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>>161911209
>They are useless NEETs who never achieved anything in their lives in a world where it is 100 times easier to get your life in order, but once they get isekaid suddenly they are extremely ambitious, capable, and attractive. I originally thought Konosuba would do away with that but several volumes in and Kazuma was already in the wet dreams of four or five girls, rich as fuck, and for some reason capable of beating enemies and opponent much stronger than him for some unexplained reason.
But Konosuba is better than most in that Kazuma is established to be capable from the very start. It's made abundantly clear that it's his hedonistic, lazy-ass, good for nothing personality that holds him back both in his original and his new life, not his capabilities as a person. When he absolutely needs to work to survive he performs admirably but as soon as he gets some slack room he devolves back to his NEET ways. He did have to work as a manual laborer for a few months after all. That's a far cry from most protagonists who suddenly become admirable in both personality and capability as soon as they get isekai'd. Kazuma does get too many easy handouts from his luck stat though, which is a cheat skill through and through no matter what he might say.
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>>161911467
>What's the point of seeing an already successful person succeed again? Unless you actually want him to fail.
Because you introduce challenges only someone as smart and talented can overcome. Most beloved characters in media are not useless NEET garbage before the story begins.

>>161911645
Its shit. Someone who was a talented scientist or engineer surviving in a new and hostile world (recent example is The Martian) since the difficulty ahead requires hyper-competent individuals to deal with it is much more interesting to me, especially since we rarely see it since its hard to write since the author needs to have an idea of science and engineering himself.
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>>161911209
>I originally thought Konosuba would do away with that but several volumes in and Kazuma was already in the wet dreams of four or five girls, rich as fuck, and for some reason capable of beating enemies and opponent much stronger than him for some unexplained reason.
It's like you don't want characters to grow or the story to move forward. Besides, the reason is luck, since the first volume it's been said Kazuma's luck was ridiculously high.
Kazuma is a terrible example, he's got like what, Darkness and Megumin interested in him after months of being on the same party? Plus one or two more that are infatuated with the image he projects.
Most of the girls have some really rotten personality or quirk anyway.
The guy was dropped into the fantasy world with a retarded debt Goddess and a tracksuit, his ambitions quickly fell from "defeat the demon king" to "Don't starve tomorrow", he spent his first months living in a stable and is so capable that every accomplishment he ever did was thanks to someone else.
The Generals
The Destroyer
All that shit was thanks to his party or some other character with a higher level and better skills like Wiz helping out.
Improvement is good. Seeing a scrub work construction and sleep in stables every day would get old: it's good that little by little Kazuma actually improves his situation despite other problems often brought on by his party, it's nice seeing him get a house after freezing in the stables, it's nice that he manages to make the best of a bad situation by learning useful skills for a party, it's nice to see it all still fail and him going into debt or getting his assets repossessed only for him to work and bounce back.
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>>161911748
The problem with isekai starring hypercompetent individuals is they're often even bigger Gary Stus than your regular ol' cheat NEET. Authors basically take "I was a highly talented genius in my field of work" as a universal free pass for the MC to have perfect, eidetic memory-tier understanding of a bunch of shit only vaguely related to his profession at best. It's MUH MODERN KNOWLEDGE wank taken to the extreme.
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>>161911748
Man, knowing the chemical process to make your piss drinkable isn't interesting. At least with the typical Isekai logic, it's clever in a way that is also understandable, makes you go, aha.
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>>161911792
>it's good that little by little Kazuma actually improves his situation despite other problems often brought on by his party, it's nice seeing him get a house after freezing in the stables, it's nice that he manages to make the best of a bad situation by learning useful skills for a party, it's nice to see it all still fail and him going into debt or getting his assets repossessed only for him to work and bounce back.
The problem is that there's no middle ground for Kazuma. He doesn't improve "bit by bit", every time he actually succeeds it's by a massive margin. The house is a great example. He doesn't slowly transition from living in the stables to an inn to a run down house and finally to a comfortable large home, he immediately gets a FREE FUCKING MANSION thanks to Aqua inadvertently shitting on its property price.
And he never goes from being in debt to barely making ends meet to making a comfortable living, he always goes from having more debt than a small nation to being rich enough to retire lavishly for several dozen lifetimes.
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>>161911889
I don't see a problem here. This is genuinely entertaining.
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>>161890117

Typical SAO fan.
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>>161911748
I couldn't care less how talented the MC was in the real world, as long as the struggles and conflicts are engaging.
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>>161911889
Part of the comedy of Konosuba is watching Kazuma act like a decadent nouveau riche fucktard though.

It's far more entertaining watching a scumbag actually throw around his massive wealth only to constantly lose it than your typical beta NEET cheat MC who immediately bumps into a massive windfall of cash only to go "ah, but it would be troublesome if other people knew how much money I had. Un, if it comes to the worst I might even be targeted by some unsavory types... alright, it's decided. I'll live a frugal life! After all, it never hurts to have too much savings! As a former Japanese NEET I'm more comfortable with this kind of lifestyle anyways."
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>>161911889
That's because the highs and lows are the whole point, this isn't a serious drama about Kazuma's struggles, it's a comedy where Kazuma's struggles play a part part in.
You're looking at the wrong story if you want "slow transition from living in the stables to an inn to a run down house and finally to a comfortable large home" and "And he never goes from being in debt to barely making ends meet to making a comfortable living"
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>>161911889
This. Everything with him feels like flipping a switch. I was honestly expecting for him to get kicked out of the mansion and have to work his way back to living there bit by bit since it felt so immediate and boring for him to move from no house at all to a mansion. His low level, random scattershot skillpoint allocation and weak job have no negative effects either since he is able to beat even super high-level adventurers and bosses by using starter spells on them. The castle sequence in volume 6 was a main offender. His "luck being high" is nothing but a cop-out for bad writing since it is never woven into the story in a creative or engaging way. It's just "LOL Kazuma did it again despite being an incompetent NEET, guess he just got lucky again!"

>>161911914
Maybe if you dont care about narrative structure and character building and are here just for the "xD"s
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>>161911991
>Maybe if you dont care about narrative structure and character building and are here just for the "xD"s
You are clearly looking for this show to be something it's not.
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>>161911959
But a more talented and competent MC can lead to more creative and original challenges they have to overcome using a more advanced toolset. An incompetent loser suddenly being able to rise to the top of the hierarchy in a different world is a fun premise to see done, but it is hat the entire genre has become.
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>>161912028
Yes, a good show.
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>>161911991
>His low level, random scattershot skillpoint allocation and weak job have no negative effects either since he is able to beat even super high-level adventurers and bosses by using starter spells on them.
Kazuma has never, ever defeated a boss before though. At most he does some setup before Megumin inevitably steals the final kill.

His Batman performance as the masked thief admittedly has some shades of the typical "everyone else in this world is a fucking retard who cannot into basic skill combinations and immediately jizzes their pants and yells SUGOI when MC does a super obvious slightly unorthodox thing" but at least there's some effort to paint it as Kazuma being unable to win in a straight up confrontation and using his thief shenanigans to land unorthodox surprise attacks and running the fuck away before they can recover.
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>>161912062
Then why are you watching anime?
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>>161911991
>random scattershot skillpoint allocation and weak job
Nigger what? A huge point in Kazuma getting good is because he takes advantage of the Adventurer class's only perk of learning skills from other classes and smartly investing on cheap skills that either take advantage of the luck stat, make exploration easier or have high versatility or party synergy.
>he is able to beat even super high-level adventurers and bosses by using starter spells on them
Stealing someone's weapon doesn't equate to beating them, he still has shit stats beyond luck, and he'd be completely fucked on the Bosses if he didn't have his party of elite classes or someone equally strong like Wiz or Yunyun.
The most he ever does is come up with a plan, but that would do fuck all by itself if there wasn't anyone there to pull it off.
>>161912093
Pretty much this, there's also the fact that during his castle shenanigans he was being buffed by the mask
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>>161911991
Except his skill build does has obvious negative effects? In season 2 it's displayed clearly that while his skill build makes him flexible his attack power is nearly zero, hence his SO GE KI being useless against giant frogs. His skillset is anti-human at this point and not anti-monster precisely because he doesn't have enough attack power to hurt anything larger than a human.
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>>161912153
>His skillset is anti-human at this point and not anti-monster precisely because he doesn't have enough attack power to hurt anything larger than a human
He can kill everything with drain touch because it's a fucking busted skill that the author should've never given him.
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>>161912046
>But a more talented and competent MC can lead to more creative and original challenges they have to overcome using a more advanced toolset.
That's not what I'm looking for when I watch isekai though. It seems like you're more interested in science fiction than anything else.
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>>161912097
Because there is good anime out there, this is just not one of them. Its a group of characters repeating the same gag they are built around in each episode over and over with slightly different backdrops. The music that plays after specific situations every fucking time feels as shitty as Big Bang Theory laughing track sequence.

>>161912149
> Nigger what? A huge point in Kazuma getting good is because he takes advantage of the Adventurer class's only perk of learning skills from other classes
Have you even read the novels? Eris is literally mad at him for spending skillpoints on random shit that lets him NEET it out rather than useful skills for defeating the demon king.

>Stealing someone's weapon doesn't equate to beating them
Volume 6 Chris (Eris) and Kazuma infiltrate the royal palace. Kazuma is only level 17 which people mock him about but he somehow manages to fuck up a bunch of Knights and Mitsurugi before any of them can even get an attack off because "NANI?! HE IS FAST!"

>>161912153
He is still the only member of his party who keeps reliably killing he frogs other than Megumin wiping some with one Explosion so I am not sure what you are on about.
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>>161912178
That's if he can touch something long enough for it to die without killing him first.
His stats are pretty shit because of his class, during his spar with Darkness, Darkness could break his arms before her stamina was drained.
You can't also drain what you can't touch, or if what you're touching gives status effects
Drain Touch is mostly used for party synergy to allow Megumin to actually move after using Explosion or to allow her to use it more than once a day.
>>161912198
>Volume 6 Chris (Eris) and Kazuma infiltrate the royal palace. Kazuma is only level 17 which people mock him about but he somehow manages to fuck up a bunch of Knights and Mitsurugi before any of them can even get an attack off because "NANI?! HE IS FAST!"
He was basically on steroids during that because of the mask, also
>Castle knights
>Particularly strong
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>>161901649
>my opinions are facts
Fuck off.
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>>161910970
what show is this from?
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Also good night guys, and cheers for an isekai thread that didn't get pic related.
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>>161912360
He is a level 17 weakest class character, they dont have to be particularly strong to fuck his shit up, they are a bunch of guards from the capital that guard the fucking royal family. Even the starting town level cap is 30. If they cant stop even him thats even dumber than the alternative which is him just being too powerful for no reason.

The mask was never described as doing anything special for him IIRC but I might have forgotten. If you have a quote to provide m with that says it buffed him I would be interested in seeing it.
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>>161912198
Not really, it's just when I hear the idea that a man gets thrown in a new and dangerous world and he has to rely on his skills to adapt and survive I just think that that man being actually skillful and knowledgeable would make things more engaging than if he was useless and weak in his previous life. For that to happen everyone else in the world needs to be a drooling retard or the MC to gain some sort of super cheat power rather than being useful ad talented himself both of which I find unappealing.
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>>161906054
>Dendrogram has a manga
>Realist Hero has a manga
>Paladin is getting a manga
Good times may be ahead
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>>161912433
>The mask was never described as doing anything special for him IIRC but I might have forgotten. If you have a quote to provide m with that says it buffed him I would be interested in seeing it.
The most it says was that he felt stronger than usual for some reason, implied to be the effect of the mask during a full moon.
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>expect Deathnote Isekai full of mindgames and creative Keikakus
>Get Oreimo Isekai instead
I want my hopes and dreams back.
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>>161912433
>they dont have to be particularly strong to fuck his shit up, they are a bunch of guards from the capital that guard the fucking royal family.
If Kazuma took them head on in a straight up fight then yeah, but Kazuma fought dirty the whole time, kept moving and using dirty tricks plus the knights weren't after his head but to apprehend him instead, which also gave Kazuma a bigger edge because he could Drain Touch the knights trying to catch him.
>The mask was never described as doing anything special for him IIRC but I might have forgotten. If you have a quote to provide m with that says it buffed him I would be interested in seeing it.
From Chapter 1 of the fanfic
>“This is one of the top seller in our shop, mass produced Vanir mask that is really popular in the society. If you wear it in a moonlit night, your mana will increase, metabolism enhance and your skin will have a silky luster because of the mysterious power of the devil. This is a rare black mask amount these products, so you can flaunt it to the kids.”
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>>161912558
Volume 6.
Sorry forgot to add that.
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>>161912558
I am still not buying the knight shit. Even Mitsurugi couldnt do jack shit because apparently Kazuma can close the distance to a high-level cheat item swordmaster and cat two spells before anything is done to him.

>From Chapter 1 of the fanfic
Cheers forgot about that one. Still it would have to double his level to even be above starter town requirements.
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>>161912264
>He is still the only member of his party who keeps reliably killing he frogs other than Megumin wiping some with one Explosion so I am not sure what you are on about
That's in comparison to his party of idiot problem children.
He can barely handle a single frog by himself. Most veteran adventurers can effortlessly slaughter them. And really, Aqua had the abilities to brutalize them too, she's just too clinically retarded to. And Darkness just so happens to be not present every time they have trouble with frogs, I wonder why?
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>>161912093
Create water+freeze on someone's throat is pretty creative to me.
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>>161912720
Yeah, but Chris already starts fellating him merely for freezing hallways to make people slip.
She's the fucking goddess of the world, how can she not know this shit.
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>>161912643
Katsuragi is a moron. Any loss on his part should not be taken seriously.
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>>161912779
He is a respected adventurer either way so him being too incompetent o strike someone who is jumping at them unarmed is pretty dumb. Even a 12 year old with a kitchen knife can flail it around so you cant safely straight-up grab their face.

>>161912755
This. I am not surprised Chris is kind of shit at doing anything since her avatar does not have her real powers, but her being surprised by the basic shit Kazuma does is pretty dumb. Is this average intelligence NEET truly the most creative adventurer in the entire world?
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>>161912818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhU6gpyjMHw
This happened during Katsuragi fight because he is an weeb that wants to iai strike.
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Isekai deserves to die for a good while after that disgusting Smartphone show.
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>>161912643
>Mitsurugi
That guy's a comic relief character and complete dunce that was beat by Kazuma's dirty tricks back at the started town even before Kazuma got to level 17.
>>161912707
>And Darkness just so happens to be not present every time they have trouble with frogs, I wonder why?
>Implying she wouldn't miss every hit and be eaten.
She'd be just as useless beyond being a decoy like the rest.
>>161912755
>>161912818
To be honest, while I believe freezing the floor is something to applaud someone for, I doubt there's many people that would use magic like that.
The world is not only backwards fantasy land but it runs on RPG logic and stats, so even a mage would be able to cast a few good spells and wouldn't need to resort to thinking outside the box right off the bat.
Why freeze the floor when you can just belt them with fireballs or push them back with a torrent of water for example?
Besides, she's a Goddess, why would she pay attention to every little ant on the side of the road?
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>>161912895
>while I believe freezing the floor is something to applaud someone for
*Isn't something to applaud
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>>161912895
Or why use Water+Freeze when you can use Grease?
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>>161912895
Wait, didn't Kazuma say that when they were killing frogs with Sena? That Darkness was the go to decoy for dealing with them?
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>>161912924
Darkness was busy with Alderp iirc.
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>>161912924
Don't remember, but Darkness can't hit anything.
Not even stationary targets.
In fact the only thing she ever managed to hit with her sword was the Vanir dolls, and those are meant to explode on contact.
So she wouldn't be much help against the frogs beyond the being eaten part
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>>161912895
> why would she pay attention to every little ant on the side of the road?
She wouldn't, she would pay attention to the cream of the crop, which is why she shouldn't be impressed by such simple things. She has lived for who knows how long, that shit should be trivial.

>That guy's a comic relief character and complete dunce that was beat by Kazuma's dirty tricks back at the started town even before Kazuma got to level 17.
This doesnt make things look any less dumb. Besides according t the author he was originally not intended to be a comic relief character, which is confusing to me considering his introduction.

>>161912924
He needed a extra decoy because there were three frogs chasing them and just two more girls hat the frogs could eat, I think. I dont see why he would expect Darkness to get the attention of more that one that would eat her.
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>>161887619
Nah the quota of full retard in anime for the season is gonna be taken up by Dies Irae and that show will quite literally torch the entirety of /a/ in power level bullshit since it's antagonist is literally top tier in all of fiction to where it makes /m/fags and their elder God demon bane look like chump shit.
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>>161912998
Did mean Angry Day?
t. CR
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>>161897429
desu that should be a mindset everyone has. No one benefits from those type of people, both male and female.
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>>161912946
>>161912960
I meant in the way that she is the aggro member of the group what with her crusader mindset while everyone else gets out of dodge and megumin takes care of the rest.
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>>161897579
Isekai's are just a worst way of making a fantasy world with the difference that a lot of authors who make up their own setting don't actually worldbuild or do so very poorly while in Isekai's it's usually part of the plot so it's easier to get into as you and the MC are on the same level. Of course this gets thrown out the window when the MC and natives to the world start spouting terms like "cheat skills" and devolves into gary stu haremshit.

As much as I want to shit on the terrible quality of authors in manga the western world is equally bad. 90% of fantasy novels are just the same shit with gary stu's and harems with the added bonus of MC's also being actual cucks like in Name of the Wind
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>Isekai thread.
>Turns into civil Konosuba arguments.
kek
Anyway, what's /a/'s opinion on Isekai where the MC isn't human anymore?
It kind of takes the heat off of the OP shit when MC isn't even a living thing and relies on another character to do shit, plus it cuts on the MC getting laid or starting to get an harem too soon.
Tensei Shitara Kendeshita is interesting and gives some daughteru vibes.
Plus, I've read about 40 or so chapters and MC hasn't turned into a human or something that completely defeats the purpose.
This feels more like the adventures of an autistic cat girl with a talking sword than anything else.
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>>161897845
LETS GO DT

I absolutely love Ixion, shame no S2. Ecarlate Juptris Saint Piria is mai waifu
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>>161913072
Darkness is the character that pisses me off the most. She has the potential to be such a cool girl, but throughout the chapters she has been craving Kazuma's dick way too much. I hope after she got rejected in 12 she pulls herself together and develops a bit as a character beside repeating the same fetish gag over and over for a 13th volume in a row.
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>>161913117
Not isekai, but Senketsu was a better character than most isekai party members and formed a far more meaningful relationship with the MC. I just think isekai audiences expect a NEET virgin wish fulfillment harem story rather than an actually good narrative with creative characters and a relative lack of tropes. They watch it for the same reason people watch transformers - they want more of the same easy to digest shit that doesn't require them to put any effort into the consumption or interpretation of media.
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>>161890070
add to that the perfect dynamix execution of dialogue and comical delivery, and you got yourself a mastapizz
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Just have the mc be above the age of 18
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>>161913498
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>>161888256
Deathmarch economics and story aren't shit, plus the MC isn't a pussy.
>>161890750
I've been looking forward to this especially, I hope they don't skip out on the animation.
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>>161913498
No, anon, 15 year old NEETs are clearly THE people that can stun an alternate world with their skill and knowledge. I have a 14 year old brother than is more than decade younger than me and it is always funny to me imagining this chuuni nerd being impressive for the people in a fantasy kingdom.
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>>161913498
That's half the damn genre already
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>>161913391
>>161913391
It was funny at first but the "Megumeme explosion, Aqua retardation, Darkness masochism" jokes got old really fast for me. The characters and their interactions feel really shallow and predictable. That would be alright if there were signs of them changing and growing up, but I have only noticed hints of that is Megumin in the novels.
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>>161904350
That sucks, I'm going to be without the ability to watch anime during the first 6mon of 2018.
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>all this idolshit
>hamstershit s2
I'd rather have 10 more low effort isekai clones like Smartphone.
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>>161913117
They are usually interesting as long as they turn into humans.
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>>161911209
It is explicitly mentioned by Aqua in the first LN volume that only young people who died before achieving anything are going to get isekai'd. Of course those youngsters will be talentless under-achievers.
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>>161914190
I thought it was because the people from the fantasy world refused to reincarnate because they effectively live in fantasy Australia so there was a population decline, so Gods like Aqua were allowed to send people there with cheats to boost population and hopefully clean it up a bit.
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>>161914190
>>161914269
Do we know how old the scientist guy was when he was isekai'd? It could just be that all the successful people would choose to stay on earth while the useless NEETs that dream of a fantasy world were the only ones that wanted to go.
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>>161914394
If I was to guess, he looked liked he was in his 20s.
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>>161914394
Probably in his early twenties.
There's also the choice to not reincarnate and just go to heaven.
So really, the only people that would want to go are NEETs or geeks/nerds that dream of being adventurers or living in a world of fantasy, dangers be damned.
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>>161914535
This OVA kind of ruined the reveal at the climax of the inevitable season 3 DESU.
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We wary this is just the eye of the hurricane
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>>161912889
i started watching konosuba after about 6 episodes of that smartphone show.
the difference is mindblowing. instead of having 6-7 girls just fall in his lap for the most menial reasons, the MC gets 3 dysfunctional pain-in-the-ass companions. the characters are great too, heck - one of them has her own spin-off manga
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>>161914822
>3 dysfunctional pain-in-the-ass companions
That all happen to be drop dead gourgeous girls. Whose dysfunctions outside of Aqua are vastly overstated.
And then more girls who Kazuma himself state fit standard heroine molds begin to fall in love with him.
Don't kid yourself Konosuba is just as bad.
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>>161890117
Erase yourself trash
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>>161915020
> Whose dysfunctions outside of Aqua are vastly overstated.
not really, they're all pretty bad as adventurers

darkness literally can't fight and is disgustingly rubbing her fetish on everyone's faces
megumin can only do one thing once a day, although I suppose such a powerful explosion might be usable in many parties. her personality is almost ok I suppose
aqua is strong but seems incapable of thinking how to use her skills
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>>161915020
>drop dead gorgeous
basically everyone makes fun of megumin for looking like a kid. if you find her "drop dead gorgeous" that's your inner/outer- pedophile speaking. but i'll concede, kazuma once said something about them all being "attractive enough".
other difference is that the MC wants to dick all three of them, but is put off by their personalities and quirk - as well as the pain of day to day life putting up with their shit.
smartphone's MC (can't remember his name) was some dumb fuck who literally needed to be proposed to to understand a girl wanted him.
everything happens smoothly because god gave him all he needed, but kazuma brought the goddess down with him and didn't get shit, even with incredible luck stats he suffers all the time.
he's a far more entertaining character than self-insert-kun because though a pervert, he does dickish things that no-one would really do
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>>161915223
Darkness is the ultimate tank. Who cares if she can't fight? Of course her utility would go up if she could actually hit things but as a free damage sponge who you don't need to worry about because she is that ludicrously durable she's useful in a bunch of situations.

Megumin and Darkness are both shown to be able to follow and execute plans just fine. Aqua is the only one with an actually problematic personality that gets them into hot shit.
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>>161915313
>other difference is that the MC wants to dick all three of them
not aqua, he literally said that he can't see her "as a woman" even though he has tried (in an OVA)

it is actually kinda refreshing that neither aqua nor kazuma wants to fuck the other
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>>161915380
was she really that ultimate?

I mean I suppose she'd be nice for low level parties but once everyone is higher, wouldn't it be better to pick someone who isn't limited to taking damage
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>>161915381
ah, my bad. aqua is like the annoying sibling that you want to punch in the face, but can't get rid of so you have to put up with it.
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>>161915223
>megumin can only do one thing once a day, although I suppose such a powerful explosion might be usable in many parties.
Remember that she can't even walk afterwards, refuses to use anything else, and is absolutely for dungeons because of it.
Her personality is that of a chuunibyou that's full of herself, try putting up with that 24/7
>Aqua is strong but seems incapable of thinking how to use her skills
Aqua is only strong against undead, which she better be because she attracts them like a moth to flame, and her healing is next to none, but on top of being near retarded she's completely insufferable, and is constantly demanding to be treated like a queen for just doing what's expected of her party roll
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>>161915445
>and is absolutely
*absolutely useless
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>>161915415
she's very strong physically too, it's just that she both can't aim and always tries to take hits instead of actively dispatching the opponent.
she's a brawler but it goes to waste, which is infuriating to kazuma (she doesn't try to change, putting all her points into defense)
>>161915445
to be fair, aqua brought back a decapitated kazuma. rest is all true
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>>161915415
She can tank Megumin's explosion point-blank without dying, she is literally physically stronger than most Demon Generals.

She can also actually hit things with her fists, but Kazuma for some reason doesn't try to press her into punching things.
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>>161912889
Fuck you i like it, lighthearted, nice fan service and often funny.
The only thing i dislike is how overpowered he is.
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>>161915659
>nice fan service and often funny.
>The only thing i dislike is how overpowered he is.
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>>161915445
>Aqua is only strong against undead
No she's not, she has stupidly high stats in all categories aside from LUK and INT, on top of stupidly broken buff skills that can make her into a close-quarters combat god when she's supposed to be a fucking archpriest.

She could steamroll the entirety of Fantasy Australia solo if she wasn't a retarded egotistical damegami.
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>>161915709
You've been here too long
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>>161915639
>>161915720
Why the fuck doesn't Kazuma force Aqua and Darkness to fight CQC style then?
I thought Megumin was the only one that was stubborn about sticking to a single spell only?
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>>161915760
You've been breathing for too long
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>>161915865
no u.
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>>161887619
How do you make that face? The mouth, at least. Do you tighten the corners of the mouth?
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>>161916208
>He never made this face
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>>161916419
>making le ebin animu faces in public
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>>161888293
Alicizashit is isekai
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>>161917076
>hating on best girl
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>>161887683
When?
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>>161910016
Season 2 when?
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Slime and spider anime are coming next year.
Isekai is just getting warmed up.
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>>161918971
confirmed? a slime anime would most certainly end before it gets shit and I'd like to see kumo animated
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>>161888293
(You)
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>>161919008
People are basing this off Yen Press licensing them, which almost inevitably signals an anime adaption in the works.
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>>161890023
I only care about seeing Reinhard and Karl animated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkRB9nGJnxs
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>>161894991
Going through Dragon's Bloodline AKA one woman's adventure to get her dick back, there's also some war shit going on but that doesn't really matter.
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>>161899180
The protagonist is the worst part of the story.
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>>161894991
Instant Death, it's fun watching the forces that be try and figure out how to beat a dude whose power is making things die like a stupidly overpowered version of MEoDP.
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>>161910623
Maine is cute and that's all that matters.
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>>161894991
spider's about it
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>>161908707
hmmmm? filename
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>>161913498
Old men and women MCs are dime a dozen though. You've got everything from Tanaka to the one where the middle-aged OL makes it her life's goal to peep on people having sex.
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Someone mention an isekai mc and other anons debate wether they would survive in fantasy australia. Lets start with subaru or naofumi
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>>161894991
Reading The Shaman that Can't Become a Hero right now by the Kuro no Maou author.

It follows the typical edgelord revenge isekai pattern of "beta-ass weakling and his classmates get summoned to crapsack isekai, he gets backstabbed by chads and left to die, but survives and swears revenge before becoming a ludicrously overpowered edgelord" BUT toned down to actually tolerable levels. The MC prefers focusing on survival over revenge, he becomes stronger but still weak in the general scheme of things, and he becomes more cynical but not a total bloodthirsty nihilist.

The main love interest is also an cripplingly incompetent fatass that ends up snapping and turning into a yandere superpowered berserker (who is no longer fat due to burning so many calories from going rip and tear on everything).
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>>161920176
Oh yeah and it's illustrated by Homare.
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>>161919881
>subaru
Return by Death doesn't work since he's not in a world where Satella exists, so he dies in the first hour to giant frogs after massively underestimating them.
>naofumi
Bumps into an anraku shoujo and the rest is history.
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>>161890117
Pleb
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I want Outbreak Company S2. It was nice and fun.
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>>161920350
Anraku what
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>>161920458
The dryads.
>“Tranquility Girl. This plant type monster won’t harm people physically… However, it will give travelers a strong urge to protect it, luring travelers to its side. The temptation is hard to resist, and if become emotionally attached, you will be trap until death. It is rumoured that this monster possess high intelligence, but that is still inconclusive. It might sound cruel, but any adventurer team that encounter this monster must
exterminate it.”
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>>161920451
yes i want more
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>>161920528
If it was a shieldless pre-betrayal naofumi i'd agree, hell, even one with a shield pre-betrayal too. Otherwise he'll probably be fine i guess? Too bad it's not a beast type cause his snow-white brainwashing passive wont work on it.
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>>161897579
I like OP characters btfo everything and Sasugas
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>>161920176
>>161920239
Yeah, it's been pretty fun.
There's even a Gal heroine? in the latest chapters. I say heroine but she has yet to go yandere from what we can tell, but otherwise is very heroine-like.
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>>161903106
Wilhelm wanted kill the White Whale to avenge his wife. So do other knights. Crush wanted kill Whale to take advantage in Royal Selection. Felt wants make anarchy, because she hates nobles.
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>>161919881
Before or after they been whisked away? If it's before, none of them would survive. The outback is a dangerous place.
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There wasn't an isekai show last season either. It is hardly the plague you make it out to be in anime.
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>>161897683
Everything from the first volumes: from selling monsters corpses, to starter equipment to expensive accommodations etc
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>>161920451
>trying to pacify the world by getting them hooked on an addictive substance so they could rule their land easier
>fun
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>>161920880
Yeha if it was before nobody would.
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>>161920927
Gin no Guardian.
Also there was lots of fantasy like Bahamut, SukaSuka, Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho, Dungeon ni Deai, Granblue Fantasy etc.
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>>161920176
>tfw you get the berserker class from literally snorting too much crack cocaine
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>>161921197
>You get avenger for being angry enough
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>>161920176
Kuro is super fucking long. It drags on and on. The real shit didn't happen until he past the gate into and country.
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>>161889744
But there's also Re:Zero. And Outbreak Company is pretty great too.
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>>161889744
because literally main character in the show is either scum or stupid
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>>161913117
I am reading LN Volume 3 now.
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>>161923237
Fran is top daughteru.
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>>161921068
And? Fantasy isn't isekai, and chink shit isn't anime (There is a term for that I believe).
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>>161919881
She became the new maou and would probably force the gods to be more responsible. Before or after they had been whisked away would not matter all for her.
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>>161923720
I really need more Rufas in my life.
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>this is a Canadian dark elf.
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>>161924155
I laugh like a motherfucker whenever that comes up, the capital is fucking called Maple too.
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>>161924428
Why is Neptune dragonkin now?
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>>161924155
>>161924428
I wasn't even sure Japan knew Canada existed.
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>>161899269
>>MC is really fucking stupid and autistic, even by anime MC standards
This didn't hit me until I realized MC is 18 years old
he acts like he is 12-14
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>>161924797
Evangeline, the elf who founded the Great Canada forest was likely a Canadian who was isekaid. But you are probably talking about authors though.
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>>161924727
Dragon Kings aren't actually dragons there.
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>>161925434
Pretty sure it's the usual dragons are fucking shapeshifter wizards bullshit.
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>>161913117
I want a RPG game with those two.
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>>161895923
>>161896040
Muppets.
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>>161923668
Fantasy rised up from the dead genre thanks to isekai
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>>161899180
The MC, sound design, and voice acting are the only good things about Re:Zero.

It's a 5/10 at best.
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>>161897716
why does 4chan love shitty food analogies so much?
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>>161925564
No, they are "spirits" or some sort of entities from beyond that reality taking the shape of dragons. It was mentioned that they actually crafted their current bodies.
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>>161920620
Sasugas are why I read Overlord.
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>>161912895
>To be honest, while I believe freezing the floor is something to applaud someone for, I doubt there's many people that would use magic like that.
I was going to explain you how any competent knight could have seen that coming but then I realized that we were shitting on konosuba of all things
Like why? the show is literally lel XD turn your brain off
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>>161919881
Bakarina would probably make a reverse harem that include Iris's brother and end up a queen.
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