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so ive been trying to get into the monogatari series for a long

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so ive been trying to get into the monogatari series for a long time. probably two years. i havent even finished bake yet. its so boring. its all dialogue. is it like this the whole time?
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>>161413328
>bump
Urgh
>>161413285
Yes it is. This is not the show for you.
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i thought it was really boring at first but after a couple of episodes i just started watching it for the philosophical talks. Some of them are sort of nonsense, but some of it was pretty interesting. I do think they drag out the dialogue longer than it needs to be sometimes though.
Also the ending episodes are always worth watching the beggining ones. I cant say this series has ever ended on a bad season.
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>>161413285
If you feel it this way, just drop it.
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>>161413285
the series has a high bar which makes it hard for a lot of people to watch. 1) the whole show is shot like a french new wave movie from the 60's. In fact i'd say the series is an homage to french new wave. 2) the art style is clearly "pop" (think andy warhol). 3) it's a studio shaft in all it's shaftyness, which means lots of Showa-era references and japanese things no one gets if you're not born in japan 4) NisiOisiN wrote the story as an otaku for otakus. 5) NisiOisiN wrote it - PERIOD... which means lots of dialog, lots of kanji/name puns which do not translate at all, and lots of awkward otaku references which you may or may not get depending on how deep into anime you are. 6) its not a good anime to marathon. watch a couple at a time. digest and continue.

So you're not "wrong" to not enjoy the anime. Personally I think marrying NisiOisiN's script to Shaft and French New Wave plus Pop art was a stroke of genius; the art direction in the anime is worthy of awards, as the backgrounds can often tell you more about the plot then the dialogue. Shinbo/Shaft has always been extraordinarily strong at making dense talk happy scripts work on screen, and they don't fail here either. Overall it will come down to taste. If you can parse through the dense text, and see through the beautiful visuals you might just find an emotionally deep and rewarding meta story about growing up. I've been watching this anime since it aired in 2009. It's been 8 years, almost 100 episodes (including the 3 part movie) and I found the most recent released episodes just as emotionally satisfying and poignant as the first.
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>>161415910
Is this pasta
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>>161416069
That was rude. It's clear the dude put some effort into typing all of that. Sure the series is not some sort of masterpiece like how he paints it out to be but it is quite a unique show. Or it might actually be pasta I don't know.
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>>161416069
If it wasn't, it is now.
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The Monogatari series can be summed up as fanservice for people that like to think they're intellectuals. Nisio Isin's writing is not particularly good but they'll defend it at any cost because they feel personally attacked if you insult the writing, and by association, their intellect. Add in Shaft being as lazy as fucking possible and you get the entire thing wrapped up in this pseudo pretentious package that any impressionable teenager or young adult with their senses too far removed from reality will lap up.
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>>161416244
The funny thing is shinbou has never watched French New Wave; he's stated in interviews he only watches anime
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>>161416244
its something I wrote years ago, saved, dug it out cause I remembered it and updated it.

It's not a masterpeice. I was complimenting the art and style direction. not the anime as a whole. Its one of my favorites, but it's not without its flaws
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>>161415910
Motherfucker put all that effort in that wall of text, even writing NisiOnisiN with the capitals and all, just to become a new copypasta.

Kek.
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