>people still watch ecchi harems in 2017 and expect there

>>161258372
It's Isekai harem now gramps

>>161258421
>isekai harems can't be ecchi

i gave up on trying to find het romance manga because 90% off it was ecchi harems or 'love-comedies' that go for 70 chapters with no relationship progress
instead, it is much better to just read /u/ manga

I've been reading light novels lately and some of them actually have really good relationship development. Way better than anything you see in manga. If you're interested in that I highly recommend Rokujouma no Shinryakusha. It has an extremely slow start so be warned but the way the relationships slowly develop overtime (both romantic and friendship wise) is really satisfying.

Kore wa Zombie is also really good at it. It's worth reading even if you watched the show because the show was a horrible bastardization that ruined everything.

>>161259850
true patrician taste.