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Why doesn't he just dump Senjyogahara? It's obvious he cares more about Shinobu.

The only reason that I could possibly comprehend is "waah I'll hurt her", but he's an idiot because every second he doesn't he's making the eventual pain she'll feel even worse.

I'm a Crabfag, but Bat has already won and Araragi just carries on. Just fucking end it and save everyone's time.
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Jesus christ stop being a deluded fool and pretending that you're a crabfag. I know this is probably bait, but some stupid fucks on this site actually believe the repugnant bile you're spewing, and they need to be woken up.
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>I'm a Crabfag, but Bat has already won

God must be hard to be a Crabfag be disillusioned enough to try to argue that Crab will win over Bat in the end, unlike the OP.
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>>161241855
She's holding him hostage like a Somali pirate
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>>161241979
But I like Crab.

It's just Nisio obviously prefers Bat, so he should drop the fucking pretense and let her go fuck Soda or something.
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>>161242047
I'm sorry for everything I've ever done
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>>161242060
Nisio's favoritism for complicated people and relationships really could not possibly be more apparent. It's hilarious when you think about the fact that Nisio himself is probably the biggest Snakefag who ever lived, despite her being so unpopular with his fanbase for being such a difficult human and Hitagi being more popular than he'd like for being the simplest one can be.

You really have to wonder why he bothered with writing a normal, boring relationship if he doesn't care about it. Was it for general appeal? What did he think it would add to the story? He clearly doesn't write Hitagi purely for enjoyment like the edgy relationships of Mono.
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>>161242249
Considering that she was originally much more important to the plot in Bake (having heavy screentime in the first three arcs and the last), it's likely he just started to like her less and less as time went on.

There are plenty of different ways to use her as a character, but with her currently representing the "normal" part of Araragi's life they'll never be used.
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Dream team
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>>161241855
He does
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>>161242501
But then they get back together.
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>>161242530
Thanks to Math
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>>161242530
And in a more romantic way than ever before
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>>161242548
I know that's why I posted her.

>>161242553
It still doesn't address the elephant sized tits in the room.
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>>161242393
But Bake was written with no thought of continuing. If not for expending the monogatari series, Bake would have been fine.
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>>161242553
>And in a more romantic way than ever before
No, really. It's back to square one again, their relationship just goes back and forward now. Meanwhile Nisio has his eyes set on further developing Araragi and Shinobu in the latest novel.
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He hated Senjyogahara after learning she didn't make nearly as cute of a loli.
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>>161243020
He's really developing Bat and rragi relationship in the latest novel? How?
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>>161241855
Well Crab is his future wife. Araragi can't marry Bat so he will marry Crab.
It's easy.
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>>161244057
Crab will die and wither away while Araragi stays at peak physical condition and eventually forgets about her entirely.
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>>161244057
>Araragi can't marry Bat

Why the fucking hell not?
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>>161244145
There's a very common misconception that Japan has a very low age of consent.

Like most misconceptions, it is a half truth. Japan, does in fact have a very low federal age of consent. But alas, the provinces do not, and our half vampire hero would face the insides of a jail cell for the rest of his life.
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>>161244145
She is a vampire loli you know.
>>161244137
Of course she will die because she is mortal. But it doesn't mean that Araragi can't love her and she can't love him while she's alive.
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>>161244057
Yes, but Shinobu can switch to her 17 year old form by will after Owari. So, there is no problem. And also, he's already married to bat.
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>>161244296
A vampire loli who can turn into a vampire teenager who can turn in a vampire adult who can

You know what, fuck you, that's how he can.

>>161244261
>implying that our hero isn't qualified for jail time already
>araragi is a man of the law now

They would never catch Molesteragi
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>>161244363
> but Shinobu can switch to her 17 year old form by will after Owari
Proof? How can she do it? She needs Araragi's blood.
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>>161244363
Well, I suppose I only know what I know..
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>>161244415
And if Araragi wants to marry her, guess what she will have everytime she wants in abundancy? His fucking blood, that's what.
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>>161244057
He's already married to her though, they even act like a married couple. So honestly:
>Araragi can't marry bat
kek
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>>161244415
And he has a lot of blood.

Just fucking dump Crab for her own good. Better learn that his love is false now instead of ten years into marriage.
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>>161244492
It's not by will.
And Araragi doesn't use her powers anymore.
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does bat have pusspuss?
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>>161244724
No the only cat girl in this show is Hanekawa
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>>161244415
No, she doesn't anymore. She can literally hop to her 17 year old form by will, but Araragi now also needs to regularly such Shinobu's blood now in order to stabilize their power.
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>>161244648
Crab and Bat are cucks. Crab knows that she is #2, Bat watches how Araragi fucks Crab from the shadow.
>>161244776
Do you have a proof?
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>>161244676
He doesn't use them to ''solve'' problems, since he thinks it's wrong to use Shinobu's power like that. Their connection has become more ''open'' or as to say willed from both sides. Shinobu can increase her vamparic nature on her own but needs Araragi to stabilize it again by sucking her blood. The connection is there to keep their vamparic nature at low levels.
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>>161244944
Crab doesn't know that he considers Shinobu above her. She's blissfully unaware of it.

Hell, she didn't even know about what happened in Tsubasa Cat and presumably still doesn't.
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I really thinks that someday, maybe in fifty years in universe or so, Araragi will be fed up with that bullshit of supressing their vampiric natures, will say "you know what, fuck that" and become a full vampire with Kiss-Shot by his side.
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Crab will win

all ye unbelievers shall see
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>>161245025
>Crab doesn't know that he considers Shinobu above her. She's blissfully unaware of it.

Imagine that.

Someday, somehow, Crab learn the full extent of rrgi and Shinobu's relationship and how she will never be the most important woman in his life.

I live for that day.
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>>161242548
Getting her was thanks to math in the first place.
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>>161245115
If it ever does happen it'll probably have an entire arc dedicated to it.
>Senjyogahara stops contacting Araragi and goes missing
>It's just an entire two episodes of him trying to find her and harassing random people he thinks kidnapped her
>in the end she just ran away from him
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>>161244964
Source? In Musubi he doesn't use her powers because he doesn't want to become a vampire again.
And Shinobu is a loli.
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>>161245256
>he finds her dead body crumpled on the staircase where they first met
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>>161245025
She kinda does know anon. Her talk to Snake in Otori implies it. She even calls Shinobu Araragi's treasure and knows he'll suicide if he loses her.
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>>161241855
>Why doesn't he just dump Senjyogahara? It's obvious he cares more about Shinobu.
He's got a pretty nice set-up though. He can fuck about with all these chicks but doesn't have to take on any of their wacko baggage because he can just pull out the
>dude I have a girlfriend
card.

Heck I guess even at this point if he colossally fucks up somehow and loses everyone he still has Ougi.
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>>161245256
Nisio will never write something lile that. Not his style.
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>>161245476
She's still pretty confident otherwise, regardless of the truth.
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>>161245115
>>161245025
Wait why do people hate Crab so much? I'm talking about the character here, not her fanbase. She's barely around enough to even hate on.
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>>161245273
>In Musubi he doesn't use her powers because he doesn't want to become a vampire again.
He doesn't use her powers because he thinks it's wrong to use her powers for every fucking problem he encountered you idiot. He has no problems with being a vampire, haven't you fucking paid attention to Araragi's behavior after Kizu? He doesn't care much about his humanity anymore as proven in Owari novel. His return to humanity was not even worth much of a thought in his head, since he had no interest in staying human. Shinobu's presence in his life was far more important to him, that's why they both reestablished their connection. Araragi was like:"fuck my life if Shinobu is not in it" Shinobu is to him more important then his ''humanity''

>>161244776
>but Araragi now also needs to regularly such Shinobu's blood now in order to stabilize their power.
This is both true and untrue. Araragi has been sucking Shinobu's blood for a while not just as much as Araragi has actually. In the Nise part 2 novel shortly after their fight against Kagenui and Doll, Araragi sucked Shinobu's blood in order to stabilize their vamparic nature and turn Shinobu back into a girl.
>The condition of the pairing is that Araragi let Shinobu drink a certain amount of blood in order to survive. As blood accumulates, their vampire characteristics increases in proportion to that so there are times when Araragi needs to suck some of the blood out of Shinobu to alleviate those. Obvious signs that Araragi needs to do this is when they can no longer withstand the sun.
This is where Shinobu's sudden forms come in. It's not that Shinobu was never able to simply change her form by will before Owari. She was always capable of turning into a older form. She just never did that before Owari.
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>>161244648
>God, I wish that were me
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>>161245754
> He has no problems with being a vampire
Watch Tsuki. Fucking crazy batfag,
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>>161245694
Because this is a harem show where a girl wins almost immediately but other girls have a better relationship with the MC in the eyes of everyone who isn't a Crabfag.

It's also probably that most people who loved Crab and watched the show for her dropped out when she went multiple years in between arcs. Even Shaft made fun of her lack of screentime.
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>>161245877
> Shaft
Nisio not Shaft
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>>161245025
If push came to shove, Araragi would choose Shinobu above everyone and not just Crab. He's acting like he should. He's committed himself to Shinobu out of his own desire and not because he felt responsibility or anything. He showed through his actions and his words that he truly values her above all.
>>161243843
By going back to the question Araragi asked Shinobu in Kizu: "What are humans to you?" Meanwhile Araragi's own feelings towards his humanity have changed a lot.
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>>161245860
Read the future novels inbred and pay fucking better attention to Araragi's behavior. His desperation towards his humanity that he had in Kizu has really loosened you disgusting secondary.
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>>161246045
Watch fucking Tsuki. His humanity wasn't the problem.
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>>161246164
>Watch fucking Tsuki
I think you need to rewatch a lot more then just Tsuki anon.
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>>161245914
Shaft did too. Senjyogahara is wearing the outfit she did in Hitagi End, her last arc, despite it being completely inappropriate for the weather. When we next see her, her hair has tripled in length. It implies that she was put into stasis immediately after the episode and taken out so she could ask Araragi out for a date.

It builds off the joke that Nisio made, but it's still a different joke.
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crab is cat's wife tho
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>>161246224
> Senjyogahara is wearing the outfit she did in Hitagi End, her last arc
Wrong.
Watch Koyomi ep12.
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>>161246249
Hanekawa doesn't like Gahara like that, their faces should be switched in that picture. Doesn't say a thing about loving ahara in Tsubasa Sleeping but says as such about Araragi multiple times.
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>>161246281
Well now I just feel silly
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>>161243777
This is the type of Loli to lead innocent young men into a white van and force them to give her headpats.
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>>161246559
Nisio doesn't care about Crab.
Araragi doesn't love Crab.
Crab became absolutely irrelevant.

I'm Crabfag and I feel silly when I think about it. Even the iconic Bake ep12. is meaningless now.
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>>161241855
Shippers need to die.
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Araragi is going to have an orgy with bat, crab and cat at least once in his life. Guaranteed
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>>161242393
I'd argue that Nisio uses Araragi sisters more than Senjou to represent his "normal" life, honestly.

Also I like Senjou as much as the next guy and all but Shaft defenitely imbalanced things here a bit in Bake, they cut out a lot of dialogue for the other characters but cut out comparitively little for her I've noticed.

>>161246990
Ougimonogatari better be another wacky mystery story. The series is at it's best when that's what it's doing.
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>>161246925
According to a poster earlier in this thread, it's because originally Bake was just its own thing.

But then the rest of the series was planned out, and Senjyogahara didn't end up in any of those plans. She'll just slowly grow less and less important as time goes on.
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I refuse to believe you watch the show if you don't know by this point that Araragi has a weakness for helping girls, can friendzone a girl if he wants to and has admitted he loves snail and his sister the best so nobody has really "won"
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>>161247084
I'd agree if it wasn't for one of Araragi's imouto being an apparition herself.

Senjyogahara purposefully goes out of her way to attempt to be normal and except for Hitagi End will go in the opposite direction of apparitions at all times.
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>>161247201
>I refuse to believe you watch the show
There is your problem
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Zoku-Owari when so I can rewatch this chronologicaly already?
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>>161247316
>thinks araragi won't dump a girl because it will hurt her
>dumps a girl previously and hurts her
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>>161247386
After owari.
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>>161247428
I meant chronologically, you can just watch everything already and then zoku. And most stuff later is either after or side-stories that don't matter much on Araragi's timeline.
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>>161247409
>I refuse to believe you watch the show
I can't honestly believe you even watch the show when you say something this retarded
>and has admitted he loves snail and his sister the best so nobody has really "won"
Anon, I can't even take you seriously
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>>161247409
Then why hasn't he dumped Senjyogahara yet?
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Best subs for the Kizu movies?
There's so many releases to choose from.
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>>161242466
on the casting front SHAFT seem to think so!
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>>161248078
[Kamigami]
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>>161244363
>Yes, but Shinobu can switch to her 17 year old form by will after Owari
Can you prove this? It doesn't make sense.
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>>161248134
What?

No, seriously, what did he mean by this?
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>>161247120
In other words, Nisio is a hack
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>>161248078
[Commie]
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>>161248219
see>>161245754
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>>161248460
That's not proof though, that makes me think you're just inferring it.
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>>161248426
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>>161245754
She turned into an older form during Owari because after getting separated from Koyomi when he died she turned back into a full vampire, no?
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>>161243843
>>161243020
The development for Araragi and Shinobu is chronologically before Musubi with the crab reunion.
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>>161248567
That's not Commie. That's a masterpiece.
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>>161248150
>>161248426
What about the other series? I've been thinking of rewatching them all again to refresh my mind on the plot, but since this is such a complicated series to translate I don't know which group gets it right

Have some bat tiddies
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>>161248078
In all seriousness: commie for 1-2 and tactical for 3.
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>>161248219
>>161248150
>>161248426
>>161249868
These are outdated. Use Edo's updated 1080p batch for all three.
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>>161249743
Don't fall for the "commie is bad" memes. They have the best grasp of proper flowing English.
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>>161250128
Reminder that this is an NTR thread and not about whatever you're talking about
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>>161242466
I can't imagine the amount of loads I'd drop to this.
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Anybody know when the OST will drop for Owari S2?
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>>161246408
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>>161250820
Probably no one. We don't even have all of the OPs.
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>>161242548
>>161245202
They also broke up thanks to Math.

Araragi probably would've had a carefree life free of all of this bullshit if not for Math actually.
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Just finished S2, this whole scene had be really unsettled, I'm glad bird is still around.
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>>161251197
If Ougi killed Birb then I don't think she'd would've been hanging out in Hana instead of being in, you know, jail.
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>>161250992
They broke up 3 times because of no one but themselves so I don't know what you're talking about. Sodachi wasn't even talking to either of them for over a year when the third break up happened, and still helped them later.
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>>161251391
Fuck me. I should have realized Araragi wasn't going to eliminate her because she was in Hana. I feel like a moron now.
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Wish I had a wacom.
Just a begginer drawfag that felt like drawing bat becuase she's gold.
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>>161252183
Not bad anon.

Some parts a bit off but the overall style and feel is right.
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>>161252228
Thanks anon, never drawn bat before so that may be it. Still. I lack a lot of experience so I gotta keep honing.
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>the Senjyogahara suicide doujin is part of a series
There are three of these holy shit
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Why do you nerds overanalyse everything? Who cares what happens in the future of a fictional series. Crab has been the winner of this shit since the very beginning. No amount of "b-b-b-b-b-but Bat will win in the end!!!!" will change that.

Nisio even had the perfect opportunity to have them break up for good with the time skip, but nope she's still there, probably gonna get married and have kids.

It's been years, you guys need to stop arguing.
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>>161252922
Nisio hates Crab. There's no other explanation. He doesn't just hate her, he despises her.

The only reason they haven't properly broken up yet is because it would piss of waifufags.
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>>161253057
He clearly doesn't hate her, because other characters do nothing but sing her praises even when she deserves to be called out.

Realistically, he probably just doesn't find her interesting to write about anymore because he's too committed to her being beyond reproach.
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>>161253264
Except for Snake, that's every female character. When was the last time someone criticized Shinobu? Or Hanekawa?
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>>161253412
what about math
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>>161253412
Shinobu gets criticized pretty harshly by Kanbaru in Owari2. Hanekawa gets criticized by Araragi and Senjougahara and Meme a lot
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>>161253554
*Owari1
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Create a doujin plot with 3 gataris

You have 3 free tags to work with. For each tag more than 3 you must up the ante to more creative fetishes.

Hard mode: no lesbianism
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>>161242047
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>>161253711
characters: Ougi Oshino, Hanekawa Tsubasa, Kanbaru Suruga

Tags: tribalism, yuri, sweating (special tag: vore)
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>>161253412
What? Hanekawa had like three entire arcs where she was constantly berated for how she lives her life. Shinobu got called out by Kanbaru in Owari 2, like the other anon said, plus what she did in Kizu is still brought up constantly.
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>>161253826
>lewding gataris, especially Ougi
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>>161253875
>not wanting kaiki's meat
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>>161253711
Tsukihi Araragi, Karen Araragi, Sodachi Araragi

Incest, Strap-on, Femdom
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>>161253875
Ougi is girl Araragi.

How would she not be lewd as hell?
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>>161247120
Was Nisio too stupid to include her in the plot meaningfully or did his tastes change since Bake?
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>>161253875
Are you alright in the head?
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>>161245694
Sore losers.
Crab won and their favourite girl didn't.
I just happily enjoy all the relationships (in my headcanon he ends up moving to a sandnigger country and marrying them all).
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>>161254088
I don't give a fuck about who ends up with Araragi. I just think Crab is an unlikeable cunt.
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>>161254187
I'm a hard bat/cat man.

But I do think that Hitagi end redeemed crab quite a bit as a character by humanizing her and showing her during a weak/desperate time. (and this is from someone that almost dropped the series at the start of Bake because of how much I hated crab. )

Also for better or worse she is in one of the best OPs in the series: https://vimeo.com/193801131
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>>161253875
i might be gay but im not a faggot
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>>161254305
I can agree with that. In general, I think Senjougahara is by far at her most enjoyable around Kaiki, because the two snipe back and forth as equals instead of Gahara just walking all over the other person.
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>>161252183
>this is beginner level
just kill me, I have a wacom but I only use it for osu
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>>161250820
It'll take a while.
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God damnit I just want more Euler.
Or even a single Euler doujin.
Crab is ok. Cat is garbage
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>>161253711
>Araragi/Math/Crab
>Tags: Femdom, NTR, Rape
>Through a bizarre series of occurrences, Hitagi Senjyogahara becomes aware of Araragi's feelings for Shinobu Oshino
>Feeling betrayed, Senjyogahara visits the park where she had first met Araragi, where she runs into Hachikuji Mayoi.
>As Senjyogahara cannot see Hachikuji Mayoi, Hachikuji instead finds a person to talk to her by proxy; Ougi Oshino.
>A conversation between the three ensues, with both Hachikuji and Oshino agreeing that she should talk to him about it instead of them.
>Before she departs from the park, Senjyogahara asks Oshino who Araragi hates the most. Oshino says there's only one possible answer: Sodachi Oikura
>The perspective of the doujin then switches from Senjyogahara to Araragi as he attempts to find one of his little sister's shoes as they run around him in circles with their doll, Yotsuki Ononogi. He is on the phone with Tsubasa Hanekawa. Suddenly, Araragi is knocked out by an unknown individual, who picks up his cell phone and ends the call.
>Araragi groggily wakes up in an unknown location. He deduces he has been kidnapped by his girlfriend again.
>To his horror, however, he finds that said girlfriend is currently forcing Sodachi Oikura to give her cunnilingus. He attempts to break free from his bindings but is too aroused to be able to. He looks over to his side and finds a friend of his, Kanbaru Surgua, eagerly recording the ordeal.
>An extended sex scene ensues between Senjyogahara and Oikura, with occasionally a vagina or ass or armpit being shoved into his face. Araragi attempts to communicate with his girlfriend but her and Oikura's loud moans, as well as encouragement from Suruga, drown him out.
>It all eventually ends when Tsubasa Hanekawa breaks Araragi's shackles after locating him.
>Meme Oshino walks in on the site of the debauchery and gives a lecture about what they've all learned from the event.
>Sengoku Nadeko is seen in the background.
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>>161254659
I forgot to work in Kagenui and Gaen.
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>>161244057
Kind of sad she tried dressing up as Hanekawa. She is really insecure, no wonder when in addition to her own issues, her boyfriend openly lusts after and has strong relationships with so many women. Why did the author even make her end game when Shinobu is around?
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>>161250825
Shaft can't keep getting away with this!
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Is now the time to start a rewatch of the entire series or just rewatch Tsuki because I haven't seen it in a while.
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>>161246611
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>>161252663
link
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>>161253875
the one monogatari i want to lewd is math but neither of the two doujins that she has are scanned and it's fucking bullshit

i'd legit translate them if they get scanned
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>>161255083
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>>161255177
1: https://nhentai.net/g/144282/
2: https://nhentai.net/g/154411/
3: https://nhentai.net/g/185989/

They're all untranslated and she only tries to kill herself in the third one.
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>>161255243
I hope it's just the doujin artists being behind the curve and start making doujin late like with doll and ougi.
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>>161255313
>nhentai
Kill yourself
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>>161255243
I should be in Nipland next year anon.

If I can find math's dojins I'll scan them for you.
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Monogatari fighting game when?
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>>161254021
His tastes probably just changed.

You can basically notice the massive decrease in Senjyogahara over time.
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>>161255439
A real shame too, Crab is very cute.
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>>161255423
Not him but Nhentai's mobile layout is vastly superior to Panda.
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>>161255423
>>161255313
>nhentai
>and the first one was translated anyways
https://e-hentai.org/g/914477/5398edd2b9/
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>>161255484
She's adorable.
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>>161254021
She's just had minimal oddity related problems since the crab. She got over her issues and has been leading a relatively happy life of bullying Araragi. Unlike say Hanekawa or Nadeko who need half a dozen supernatural phenomenons in order to get over their personal faults.
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>>161256102
Yeah but in Bake she got involved in other cases.
Now Nisio doesn't want to include her nearly as much.
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>>161255607
>Visit nhentai
>uBlock goes ballistic
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>>161256157
Well as you add more characters the rate of older characters appearing will naturally go down. She was prominent in Bake due to a combination of being with Araragi when he met Mayoi and the friend of Kanbaru. Other than that she's mostly limited to her Arc and her date.

On that note Kanbaru is another character who doesn't appeared nearly as much after Bake. Outside of Hana she's mostly just fucked around with Araragi because she already faced her issues.
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>>161256236
>uBlock goes ballistic
I use Ublock and have never had an issue when going to their site.
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What did you guys think of the ending?
Just finished it and thought it was pretty good. Would have been pulled in a bit more had it not been for me visiting /a/ and also being reminded of Ougi in Hanamonogatari but still it all rounded up very well.
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>>161256455
nhentai tries to open an ad in a new window every single time you click on something.
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How much does Senjyogahara really know about Shinobu anyway? Araragi insists on not speaking of the two weeks where he met, help and fought Kissshot but surely she has seen Shinobu? Or at least question how he heals so fast?
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>>161256730
Araragi certainly talks about it with her. He talked about the events in hell in Hitagi Rendezvous.
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what subs do I watch for koyomimonogatari?
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>>161256660
It only does it the first time you load up the webpage for me, but its blocked anyway so I don't really care.
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>>161257177
Sajamba.
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>>161256730
It's impossible to know. We already know he doesn't tell her the whole truth, but the severity of it is the question.
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Feel like Monogatari threads are died now.
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>>161258267
3 are three monogatari threads in the catalogue right now. This thread has 171 replies. Literally what are you talking about.
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>>161258267
No.
Post cute bat.
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>>161258645
There's only 2 tho. This one and
>>161238710
>>161258737
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Wait wait, we are posting Bat here?
Cool.
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>>161258768
Yes we are.
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Post ugly Crab
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>>161259076

>>161250184

>>161258768
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>>161259070
noice
I was actually going to sleep before my heart felt the call to post bat here
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>>161259076
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>>161259121
Good chouce.
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>>161259076
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>>161259160
Thanks, I don't regret it.
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>>161258737
Bat is cute in every form.
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If Nisio cuts Shinobu's hair, I am out. Fuck this shit. 4 characters already, someone stop this man.
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>>161259367
She can just grow her hair out whenever she wants.
>>161259360
Exactly.
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>>161259367
Even he isn't that crazy.
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>>161259367
Anon, I-
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>>161259402
I meant in a more permanent way, and keep her that way.
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>>161258737
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>>161259427
>>161259402
The whole "cutting your hair = character development" needs to die. Is he implying that long haired girls are immature?
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>y
fuck off newfags
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>>161259512
I know. I only think there are 25 letters too, Anon.
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>>161259506
Didn't all the cunts cut their hair to sorta "move on"
Why are all the human characters so weak, all the immortal ones keep their hair, same as rrgi
>>161258737
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Shinobu had enough character development and her still keeps her hair, l think she is safe.
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>>161259561
If rrgi cuts his hair I will chimp out like an autistic stepchild

>>161258737
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>>161259662
I hope he still has his hair like that after Hana.
>>161258737
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>>161258737

>>161259695
>endnobu
>end
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>no short hair teenobu
Imagine a tomboyish perfect 17 y.o. Bat with shoulder-length golden curly locks. Exquisite. Long hair is still better, of course.
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>>161259561
But a lot of the girls grew their hair back, too. Kanbaru's tripled in length at one point, and Senjyogahara quadrupled the length of hers in a single night. I don't think it has anything to do with character development, (except for Snake) just Nisio likes changing hair styles.
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>feel like Monogatari threads are dead now.
>anon call the Batfags to arms
>avalanche of Shinobu pics

I love you people.

>>161258737
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>>161259722
No matter how Shinobu looks like, she's cute and perfect nonetheless.
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>>161259786
We love you too, anon.

>>161258737
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>>161258032
Gaen looks like such a wigger slob.

I hate all the female adults. They all have shit designs
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>>161259973
>Hawaiian shirt
>Trenchcoat and tie
>Jap clothes
>Whatever the fuck Kagenui wears, looks like a circus ringleader
Gaen truly is the most /fa/ out of all the occult club.
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>Every single doujin artist in the world is obsessed with Loli Bat form instead of Kiss Shot
Lolicon were a mistake
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To the Anon from the other thread who said Yotsugi would die if you removed her hat, I knew there was a shot of it off her head.
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So what was the metaphor in the end? If Ougi is his self-criticism, then saving Ougi means it was alright to criticize himself?
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>>161260307
Araragi was literally saving himself. Like Meme never shuts up about. Like he said two fucking seconds later.
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>>161260152
>Gaen
>/fa/
Gwen dresses like Kevin Smith, there's nothing /fa/ about her
Kaiki, on the other hand, has style and can combine things tastefully, Meme's style is chill, maybe a bit generic, but he's still quite iconic.
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>>161260307
Ougi' extistence become Oshino's niece now. By realizing the problem of himself and straight facing it, Araragi's self criticize is not a problem any more.
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>>161260366
Saved himself from what? Yeah it's a funny metaphor but letting Ougi die would be like letting another person die to him, so he saved her. If he didn't feel that way and let her die, then it's like casting off an unnecessary emotion.
He's not really saving dick all about himself by having her live. He's in no danger if she died.
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>>161260642
Ougi is still an important part of himself. While going full retard on the self criticism is bad, so is prancing about with no shame. Letting Ougi die would be casting off that part of himself instead of facing it head on like the entire fucking series has been about since day one.
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>>161248704
requesting the source of the "fuck off m8"
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>>161260174
27 is too old for doujin artists in Japan you know, they love high school girls or younger ones.
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>>161260797
It's some fucking idiotic meme light novel copypasta translation for Kizu 1.
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>>161260836
>idotic meme light novel copypasta translation

if that's not one of the most fucked sentences I've read in the past year
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>>161260853
But it's an accurate one.
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>>161260853
That's what it is though. The dude who made it doesn't even know nippon. He just pasted the dialogue from the novel and made it suitable for the movie, then added some unfunny jokes and that's it.
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>>161260919
>Shinobu will never wear her helmet again
Biggest tragedy in the entire series.
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>>161260902
that's actually fucking ridiculous

how much of a shitshow was there when this shit came out?
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>>161260953
Most people didn't even watch those and just waited for actual subs, or atleast decent ones.
>>161260933
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>>161241855
Honest answer : he's too much of a coward.
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>>161244057
>>>/fanfiction.net/ is that way anon
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>>161244648
But don't you want to see her suffer as much as possible? the you just have to wait, that's probably the reason Nisio is trying to hide.
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>>161260953
A lot of people were actually so ravenous for Kizu that they enjoyed the memesubs. It's not like the guy advertised them as good. A bunch of normalfags got confued though as shitty streaming sites blindly used those shit subs.
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>>161254088
more like crab is shittier anon,

and also her womb is tainted with kaiki's sperm.
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>>161261243
Where's that Kaiki anon?
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>>161241855
Only watched season 1, have Araragi and Crab had sex?
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>>161261421
It's heavily implied, but it's not specifically stated.
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>>161261429
How implied?
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>>161261421
They only had something like gently walk home
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>>161261447
In nise she's like "please do that tomorrow, stay the night with me" or something like that.
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>>161261477
Are you kidding me?
If staying the night means having sex, then Shinobu and rrgi are doing it every night.
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I JUST WANT ALL THE BLOODY OKOJO DOUJINS TO BE TRANSLATED
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Monogatari has literally repressed my sexual urges for 8 years. Fuck.
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>>161261447
Even if you subscribe to the "walked her home gently" school of thought, Tsuki made it more explicit.
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>>161261569
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>>161261569
How?
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Araragi can literally have a threesome with cat and crab if he wanted to. Why is he such a pussy?
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>>161261498
The difference is they're dating
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>>161261554
>>161261641
Why would you spam this garbage? It's not anything new that he's a fucking pussy.
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>>161261678
Yeah and Shinobu and him are pretty much married.
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>>161261700
No they aren't. All this "A-aragi loves Bat and Senjo will die someday, so ot's okay for her to be a literal cuckquean" is just mere batfag rationalization. If Araragi loved Bat as mcuh as you say he would just dump Hitagi or viceversa. Theauthor is just writing wish fulfillment garbage and you literally can't cope with it.
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>>161261843
>him and crab broke up 3 times already
Sure, crabfag. They'll definately stay together.
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>>161244261
You're the least cancerous poster in the Monogatari threads, Hanekawa. It's like you know everything.
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>mfw after all these years, it's over
>8 years of a show about leaving adolescence behind
>I'm 24 and still haven't
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>ITT: normalfags who can't into polyamory
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>>161244492
Actually, what is this bullshit with them having to officially marry? They both know full well that their bond is as deep as it gets. Shinobu using the "omae-sama" leads back to calling him her husband too.
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>>161261919
Well, until nisio actually picks one over the other, all this fighting is useless anyway.
>>161261882
Stop with this dumb copypasta.
>>161258737
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>>161261880
And he went back to her. To have sex. Literally in front of shinobu.
I'm not even a crabfag, my point is that he actually loves neither of them, adn the author is able to get away with this crap for so long because of dumb faggots like you rationalizing his shit writing.
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>>161262118
Yeah no shit, he's a fucking shithole of a character and I honestly wish nisio would actually fucking decide, but that's probably gonna take ages anyway. I'm just fucking hoping that bat actually wins because if there's still not a clear "yeah she won" I'll just root for bat. Honestly, nisio actually writes pretty good shit, it's just that he fucked up in this case with having him take care of some vampire loli and then giving him a fucking girlfriend in the first 3 episodes. I wouldn't fucking rationalize that shit if my opinion actually mattered, but I don't think that he even knows of anything remotely close to 4chan, so it's not like my opinion or any opinion here plays a role, which is why I'll just try to BTFO crabfags so they surrender on their own will.
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>crab thread
>autistic batfags immediately throw a fit
Like pottery
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>>161262262
Because asking why crab doesn't get dumped in the OP makes it a crab thread.
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>>161262262
>Why doesn't he just dump Senjyogahara
I don't think this is actually a crab thread buddy.
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>>161262118
Shinobu might feels the same pleasure when he fucks Hitagi, it's not too bad.
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>>161241855
>Why doesn't he just dump Senjyogahara? It's obvious he cares more about Shinobu.
That probably shows how he hates Kaiki. Araragi hates his guts because kaiki is someone better than him. He hated him more after Hitagi said that she would go for "the better guy" if he proposes to her. That is definitely Kaiki.
>I'm a Crabfag, but Bat has already won and Araragi just carries on. Just fucking end it and save everyone's time.
That is good for you to realize that bat won but it does not mean that the series needs to end. We still need to do something about Kaiki so he could move on and make crab happy. Crab had cried far enough and he needs to wipe her tears all away.
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>>161262777
Nah, I'd be fine with them just breaking up and rrgi then focussing on the stuff with Deathtopia.
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>>161253747
I was waiting for someone to reference this.
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>>161241855
friendly reminder that crab = cunt
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>>161261447
implied in anon autistic mind
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>>161262926
Nisio didn't state anywhere that they actually fucked.
>>161262911
This.
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>>161242466
>Dream team
A hypocrite, a sadist and a lunatic. That is the worst team ever.

This is much better. A duo consisting of the "King of Cons" and the "Queen of Bluffs". You can't escape once this duo targets you for a scam. Their words will entice & captivate you and there is nothing you could do but give up your senses and submit to their will.
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>>161261477
>>161261447
There is no such implication. You can stay at night to sleep side by side and cuddle, for example.

The people who keep saying crab ang rrgi fucked are jumping to conclusions.
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>>161262978
Exactly. As long as it's not specifically stated, even implications are worth nothing.
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>>161253711
Ougi, Araragi, Kanbaru

Clothed sex, NTR, voyeurism
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>>161261628
wtf I love feet now
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>>161253711
Shinobu, Araragi and Kiss-Shot from route X

vanilla, loli, shota
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>>161263248
That's fine anon. Soon you'll love everything about Shinobu.
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>>161245115
>Imagine that.
>Someday, somehow, Crab learn the full extent of rrgi and Shinobu's relationship and how she will never be the most important woman in his life.
>live for that day.
This doujinshi >>161250184 is prophesying what would happen when that day comes. Hitagi will jump over a high rise building while saying - "I don't want to die!". Though she does not want to die, the truth hurts more than death.
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>>161263269
I like how she barely keeps those nipples covered with her dress most of the time
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>>161263248
Shinobu has a way of giving you tons of new fetishes.
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>>161263284
VERY lewd bat tying her hair.
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>>161245256
>Senjyogahara stops contacting Araragi and goes missing
>It's just an entire two episodes of him trying to find her and harassing random people he thinks kidnapped her
>in the end she just ran away from him
>>161245396
>he finds her dead body crumpled on the staircase where they first met

that is more tragic than this one. >>161263273

I really feel sorry for her. Where the hell is Kaiki??? Why won't he get her out of this hell she is in and make her happy???
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>>161263348
I mean Kaiki knows to a full extend that he already has Shinobu, heck, he even was in Gaens specialist circle, so he probably heard about her and rrgi, and yet he's still not telling her the truth? I hate crab with all my guts but if that fuck would move his ass that would clear all conflict, crab dates a fan favourite, Kaiki, and rrgi stays with shinobu.
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>>161263248
>>161263284
I like your way of thinking, anon.
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>>161263348
God, the fact that Hitagi could easily be NTR'd disgusts me.
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>>161245478
>Heck I guess even at this point if he colossally fucks up somehow and loses everyone he still has Ougi.
Ougi is technically his daughter so that is a no go. We have enough incest with his sister already. Shinobu would not agree to that too since Ougi also her daughter also.

From Gaen in Ougi Dark:

>“With how hard Shinobu-san has exploited her matter creation skill up ’till now, it would be totally feasible for her to create an oddity, a high school girl, or whatever else.
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>>161263392
How the fuck can she look so good no matter in what form she is?
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>>161253711
Izuko/Tooe/Kanbaru

Tags: Incest, Story Arc, Handholding.
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>>161263424
Well, you can't beat pure perfection, anon.
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>>161253711
Gaen, Yozuru, a large group of men
group, exhibitionism, double anal
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>>161263500
Disgusting. You only have two Gataris. Orokamono.
Can't even follow the rules, you keep that shit up and ya'll gonna get corrected.
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>>161263500
See
>>161263512
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>>161263512
As far as I remember, there were a considerable amount of indistinguishable people in Hitagi End. As such, "a large group of men" counts as a Gatari in my book.
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>>161263325
Shinobu probably just uses her vampire powers for mundane things like changing clothes or tying up her hair.
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>>161263639
Wasn't there something in the KIzu novel that basically her clothes come with her body size? So I guess she can just change them at will, because they're pretty much part of her body?
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>>161263633
You would be wrong, motherfucker. You could have just said Tadatsuru and a large group of puppets and you would have been fine.
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>>161263659
>a large group of puppets
It's just not the same though.
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>>161263689
Nigga, it's all the same. That's the point. They are all the same.
One puppet or One hundred puppets are all still "Tadatsuru Teori".
Did Touko Aozaki not teach you shit about people being puppets?
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>>161263650
I wouldn't be surprised. That said, she probably does things like change clothes or tie up her hair manually while around Araragi to get him going.
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>>161263723
Well, of course she would. She wants to please her lover too after all.
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>>161263713
I just want Gaen and Yozuru to have sex with random people, not with one guy they knew from college copied a dozen times. The context is completely different.
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>>161263791
That's not what original anon asked for though.
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>>161263791
Yes but there are rules you have to follow. You cannot have your "random people" as they are not Gataris.
The only work around for both "three people" and "a Gatari" which the rules state whilst also satisfying the "lots of people" that you want can only be satisfied by Tadatsuru.
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Post your favorite arc. Pic very related.
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>>161263872
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Is falling in love with Ougi the right thing to do?
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>>161263904
>this screenshot
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>>161245860
> He has no problems with being a vampire
>Watch Tsuki. Fucking crazy batfag,
He was willing to accept Shinobu's decision to such his blood if ever his life is in danger with a risk of turning him into a complete vampire. Araragi just said "fine". So, he does not mind at all turning into one if that is what it takes for him to do what he wants.
>>161246164
>Watch fucking Tsuki. His humanity wasn't the problem.
The problem in Tsuki was that Shinobu&Araragi got hook with their blood sharing ritual. Ononoki stressed the term "pacing" which means frequency. So when it is implied that Araragi could not longer give Shinobu blood, it was a death sentence to Shinobu and that is why Araragi said "Sorry!" to Shinobu.

Araragi even mentioned this mistake in their "habit".

>After that exchange, we swore never to repeat the mistake of accelerating my vampirization via our habit of blood stealing-turned-blood dealing, and we then restored our link for the third time.

They never swore that they would not drink each other's blood again. Shinobu would die if Araragi would not feed her his blood as Oshino said in Kizu.

>However...... by settling things this way, setting Araragikun aside, Heartunderblade will starve to death without sufficient nourishment. You must continue to constantly give Heartunderblade your blood. The sole nutrient able to keep Heartunderblade alive, once degraded to that inferior existence, will be just your flesh and blood.

Only Araragi's blood will keep Shinobu alive. Not donuts, coffee or even 'ghastly energy' from oddities.

>>161244676
>>161245273
>And Araragi doesn't use her powers anymore.
The misconception is that, Shinobu only drinks Araragi's blood to power up. But that is not true at all. Shinobu needs to drink Araragi's blood because that is the only thing that would keep her alive.
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>>161263972
Fuck you.
Also even if the arc had a shit adaption, it was still pretty fucking good.
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>>161264072
I was referring to how the screenshot looked fucking terrible and somehow still managed to be over 1MB in file size.
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>>161244776
>>161248219
>>161244415
> but Shinobu can switch to her 17 year old form by will after Owari
>Proof? How can she do it? She needs Araragi's blood.
It is not what she could switch at will. Shinobu&Araragi had been sucking each other's blood from day one. That was part of the condition of pairing. Shinobu needs blood in order to survive and each time she does that, their power increases a bit. Because of that, Araragi eventually needs to take some of that blood back to lower their power. This was demonstrated in Nise part 2.

The misconception is that, Shinobu only drinks Araragi's blood to power up. But that is not true at all. Shinobu needs to drink Araragi's blood primarily because that is the only thing that would keep her alive. As Oshino said in Kizu.

>However...... by settling things this way, setting Araragikun aside, Heartunderblade will starve to death without sufficient nourishment. You must continue to constantly give Heartunderblade your blood. The sole nutrient able to keep Heartunderblade alive, once degraded to that inferior existence, will be just your flesh and blood.
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>no one dies
>even dead people un-die
this is the sign of a weak-hearted author
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>>161264089
I don't remember from where I got that either.
Also the ost pretty good too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHBESqoDA0I&list=PLhFw0ftuwhqvkdC_oTi9aVY9j86Kh10Qg&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCK3zPJJoBI&list=PLhFw0ftuwhqvkdC_oTi9aVY9j86Kh10Qg&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsVpxPGtE5k&list=PLhFw0ftuwhqvkdC_oTi9aVY9j86Kh10Qg&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1achU47q70&list=PLhFw0ftuwhqvkdC_oTi9aVY9j86Kh10Qg&index=3
I don't know why but I'm so fucking hooked to that arc, I've already red the fan translation of the novel, but I honestly can't wait for the official one.
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>>161264117
More like a light-hearted one. Bakemonogatari was never meant to be a grimdark series, its main selling point is silly humor and goofy pun filled conversations. The atmosphere of the anime is really different from that of the books, I enjoy both though
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>>161253747
>Gay sex with HATS ON

every time.
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>>161255439
>>161255818
>>161255484
>A real shame too, Crab is very cute.
>She's adorable.
Don't worry! Kaiki will save her someday from that hypocritical maniac Araragi!
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>>161264183
I hope so.
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>>161264119
I actually really liked Kabuki too, it's something different from the usual adventures, alone in a world, not knowing what is wrong for the first couple of chapters. Though that's probably also why I wish for nisio to write an after story where it's only rrgi and Shinobu left in the ruins of the city. I wish nisio would do more stuff like this.
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>>161264149
>it's revealed main character's girlfriend was nearly raped two episodes in thanks to her own mother
>not dark
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>>161264251
It's not really as dark as the novels are, I have to agree with that.
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>>161256847
>Araragi certainly talks about it with her. He talked about the events in hell in Hitagi Rendezvous.
Talk about but completely censored! He does not tell her about things that would endanger their relationship. Guess what? Shinobu&Araragi are in cahoots what to tell and not to tell! Like what happened in Kabuki.

>"Those mere hand-prints which will disappear in no time won't serve as evidence."
>"Then I will just have to use your cellphone to snapshot it and make it evidence."
>"Before we even talk about evidence and whatnot, if that kind of picture was in my cellphone, Hanekawa would cut ties with me, and Senjougahara would propose to break up."
>"And then you would get arrested by that policewoman."

Araragi has a dishonest/secretive relationship with Hitagi while he has a honest/transparent relationship with Shinobu.
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This is the best moment between Rrrgi and Crab since the stargazing scene back in Bake.
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>>161259076
>>161259205
>>161259142
>>161259120
>>161259273
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>>161264394
>Those mere hand-prints which will disappear in no time won't serve as evidence.
>if that kind of picture was in my cellphone
Wait, what is this from and where did he touch Shinobu?
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>>161259561
>Why are all the human characters so weak, all the immortal ones keep their hair, same as rrgi
>>161259602
>Shinobu had enough character development and her still keeps her hair, l think she is safe.

She does not care about "moving on","character development" or "whatnot". She only cares about what Araragi wants. She can read his mind so she knows what type of hair Araragi really likes. He likes it smooth, silky, long & fluffy.
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>>161264029
Shinobu can still live without araragi's blood provided that she continues on sucking any regular human's blood. But Araragi wouldn't allow Shinobu doing that, that is why he still gives her his blood. Read shinobumonogatari, anon. The same applies to Deathtopia as well.
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>>161264607
>read Shinobumonogatari
Not original anon, but I don't think that many people here actually know nippon.
>>161264558
It's so cute how much she does to fit his needs perfectly, also that picture is adorable.
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>>161260642
>>161260750
>Ougi is still an important part of himself.
Ougi is not an "IT". She is someone that Shinobu and him created or gave birth too so she should be important. He realized at the end that Ougi is just a baby who needs to be protected. As Gaen implied in Ougi Dark.

>Basically, the last name ‘Oshino’ doesn’t come from Meme Oshino, but from Shinobu Oshino. If you take into consideration that you and Shinobu Oshino are essentially one in body and soul, you could consider Ougi Oshino to be your joint production.

>“With how hard Shinobu-san has exploited her matter creation skill up ’till now, it would be totally feasible for her to create an oddity, a high school girl, or whatever else.
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>>161244261
You can say anything you want Hanakawa Tsubasa but you can't fool me. I always be watching from afar so don't get your hopes up if you think you can do anything you want and go deceiving people. Don't get cocky just because you found me! You just got lucky that I was sightseeing there though I wont deny that it was something remarkable. Still, my eyes are set in you even though I don't like too. And don't think that is because you have a nice body and huge rack. I don't want to look at them but you gave me no choice.
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>>161264848
Stop this cringe anon.
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I want Ougi to put her sleeves close to my erect dick.
Then, I want her sleeves to slowly descend over my erect manhood so that I can feel her soft, pale hand stroke my dick as I ejaculate all over the insides of her sleeves.
I don't want to see her hands though.
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>>161261498
>>161261421
>>161261429
>>161261447
>>161261449
>>161261477
>>161262118
People keeps forgetting that Araragi will be rubbing Shinobu's breast on that same day Hitagi said "please be gentle...." thing. Between having sex with Hitagi and having his blood suck plus a chance to rub Shinobu's breast, we all know which is the best choice.

For all you know, that might be the same day that Shinobu showed to Araragi that she could transform into TEENobu if she sucks enough blood from him. The possibility of this is high since on the next arc Shinobu transformed into TEENobu and right after that Araragi knew that he had to suck Shinobu's blood to return Shinobu to her girl form.
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>>161265001
I hope so hard that he just completly cucked crab after he came home, doing even more to bat than he did to crab.
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>>161264119
>>161263904
>>161264247
>I actually really liked Kabuki too, it's something different from the usual adventures, alone in a world, not knowing what is wrong for the first couple of chapters. Though that's probably also why I wish for nisio to write an after story where it's only rrgi and Shinobu left in the ruins of the city. I wish nisio would do more stuff like this.

I wish we get a side story too where Araragi tell in detail what exactly they did in those 3days&nights that in the LN:

>Three days and three nights.
>I would like to keep secret what I said to Shinobu and during this time.
>Then, three days later.
>The congress day fireworks.
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>>161265319
We can only hope.
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Maybe I missed something, but when did everyone else become aware of Shinobu and who she is?

I don't recall Kanbaru and Hitagi knowing about her, and now going through Owari 1 they're both talking about her and Kanbaru isn't surprised by her.

It has been a while since I watched anything monogatari, so my memory may be failing me.
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>>161265441
I mean he told crab about it a few times, but I can't really remember the dialogue between him and monkey.
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>>161264960
I wish talking to myself would like this cool.
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>>161264394

He always thinks he is keeping things from people, but then people like Hanekawa just blow him the fuck out when it matters. The text often shows that Hanekawa is extremely lenient with Araragi in conversation, she is basically his second Mom now, as Nisio has said before.

Now, if he ever hurts Hitagi, it'd get pretty bad, but as long as it's harmless stuff with Shinobu, she won't intervene. As Nisio's most intelligent and moral character, she knows when to press and when to back off, but she always keeps her promises, ask Sodachi that.
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>>161265995
>if he ever hurts Hitagi, it'd get pretty bad
So basically he couldn't even break up if he wanted to?
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>>161265319

Kabuki eh? You mean like the part where Shinobu tells him he was calling Hanekawa in his sleep while playing with her ribs and he refuses to admit he did?

The boy has the heart of a cheating philanderer.
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>>161264394
>>161264431
>Wait, what is this from and where did he touch Shinobu?
Kabukimonogatari LN

It started out at night
>Well, naturally, we weren't so foolish as to lose ourselves in playing in a park either ―― however, the fact that there were plenty of playground equipment in this park has to be a relief in this case.
>Since we were now able to spend the night lying inside a playground equipment modeled after pipelines, that is, in conditions where we had a roof and walls.
>"Still, this is really cramped. We are really close to each other. I cannot tell at all whether I am your futon or whether you are my futon at this rate."
>"They're both wrong. You can just go back inside my shadow if you think it's cramped."
>"Do not say such cold things. Allow me to feel your ribs as well."

The next day
>"So, are you alright?"
>To my query, Shinobu answered yes, I am fine.
>Hmm, even if she has lost her vampiric nature, she was originally a vampire, so she might be able to cope with conditions this rough with ease.
>"No, no, you have the wrong idea. To begin with, I did not get any sleep."
>"Eh? Why? You weren't able to reverse day and night?"
>"No, that is not it. You were hugging on to me looking like you had trouble sleeping, so I could not sleep."
>"…………"
>So she was in a real body pillow state. So she was my futon.
>"You were playing with my ribs like a güiro and going «Hanekawa―, Hanekawa―, loli Hanekawa―» while being perturbed."
>"That's a lie―!"
>A güiro she says!
>"Well, you were probably feeling a little disheartened after coming to a past like this, so I thought that it could not be helped, and allowed you to be spoiled."
>"That's definitely a lie―!"
>If that was true, it's like, I'd feel way too sorry for you, Hanekawa, and Senjougahara!

I'm the worst character, I should die tomorrow!
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>>161266111
>>161266194
Jesus Christ that hurts my heart.
rrgi did not fucking deserve such a lucky fate.
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>I'd feel way too sorry for you, Hanekawa, and Senjougahara!
>not mentioning sorry shinobu
fucking hell this dude.
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>>161264607
>Shinobu can still live without araragi's blood provided that she continues on sucking any regular human's blood.
That is a first and it somehow defeats the condition of the pairing. You probably mean blood the comes in pouches and not directly consumed by biting on someone's neck.
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>>161266231
>>161266289
I agree, I'm honestly starting to hate Araragi.
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>>161261919

>polyamory

No. You need honesty, communication, and acknowledgement/respect from all partners to all partners in a polyamorous relationship. Not "you do your thing, I do mine" from two of its members.

Basically, if all the members don't care for everyone involved it's destined to shatter.
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What if Aararagi really can love both of them?
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>>161266078

No, if Hanekawa has one of her rare moments of absolute, blunt, "does Wayne Brady need to choke a bitch" moments, she would just say to end it amicably and honestly with Hitagi if he needed to, and then she would be there for her.

Heat she wouldn't condone, is leading her on and going into marriage dishonestly, then shit happening because of it.
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>>161266780
That's kinda the path rrgi wants to take in Musubi though.
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>>161266289
>angry snail noises
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>>161266289
You do fucking realize he means it like
"You(shinobu, Hanekawa and Senjougahara, right? Which means he even mentions her first, you dummy.
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>>161266807
>Araragi is an asshole
Wow, who knew?
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>>161267195
>You do fucking realize he means it like
"You(shinobu, Hanekawa and Senjougahara, right? Which means he even mentions her first, you dummy.
If "you" there was Shinobu,. does that mean that he is sorry for playing with Shinobus's ribs? Or he is sorry that he is calling for Loli Hanekawa while playing with her ribs?
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>>161267262
When I think about it, I guess it's really not a suprise.
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>>161267280
He's probably sorry for calling for Loli Hanekawa, I mean she even went with it because she felt bad for him being in this time line and stuff.
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>>161266194
So we already know what loli Senjyogahara looks like (ugly) >>161243777 but what does loli Hanekawa look like?
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>>161267526
You know how a non canon doujin loli looks like but you don't know how a canon loli looks like?
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>>161267621
Oh yeah I forgot that was a thing.
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>>161267526
This one is more luscious.
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>>161267742
If I had been in Araragi's place, I wouldn't have been able to restrain myself from raping her right there.
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>>161258737
lewdnobu
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>>161267766
That would've sold a lot more bd's
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>>161267824
leewd
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>>161267981
I want it on my face.
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>>161267931
What is she actually saying?
totemo??shi?desu
demo(but)?senara OK desu
Honestly even if I knew the katakana and kanji I would probably still not know what it means.
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>>161267742

His affection just goes into overdrive with Hanekawa doesn't it.

I think Nisio made her the most ethical driven character because he knows if she just ravished Araragi, he wouldn't even bother resisting.
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>>161268010
ふあああん
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>>161267824
who cares about shinobu

give me more of that delicious hunk rrrg
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>>161267981
>panties
Whats the point of non canon fanart?
Why not make her wear a trench coat and a fedora while you're at it?
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>>161268079
>mumumumumu
There you go, dickhead.
You can't beat my Shinobu folder.
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>>161268076
Homos not allowed
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>>161268076
いええ
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Newfag here, wtf just how old is crab in owari?
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>>161268415
25
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>>161268415
>every model is 18+
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>>161268236
squish
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>>161268922
squish
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>>161268236
>>161269545
I want lewder pictures.
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>>161269650
l-lewd
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>>161241855
Passionate babymaking for crab and cat. Bat and monkey for wild casual fucking.
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Maaaan, this show would be so much better without the 0815 harem crap...
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>>161242249
>Nisio is a man of refinement
snake must beat the bat again (third time). win the arararara and not even really care (just draw more manga shitting on bat as she cucks them all)
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>>161269971
No.
shinobu for passionate, intimate, romantic babymaking and headpats
Hachikuji for banter
and the rest for bullying.
>>161270071
Did you even understand the purpose of hitagi end? Looks like you don't.
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>>161270071
>snakefags
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Nadeko is a airhead who needs to get slutified.
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>>161269709
good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkipWXIcb-o&list=PLeC67YIuW2taRcIE9ztMkgOVARDwaj6WY&index=161
Honestly for being a fucking boring arc Tsubasa family really has a nice op.
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>>161270342
She already is
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>>161241855
I'm still waiting for Polymonogatari.
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>>161264119
Holy shit that OST is depressing as shit
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>>161270342
Kaiki told her not to worry about love. She'll probably be a virgin until Birb eventually rapes her.
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>>161267824
This will keep you relaxed.
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I'm a slav and I like tracksuit Shinobu the most.
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>>161269545
>She's dressed in the worst Senjyogahara outfit
Ew
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>>161273133
Is there even a picture of her in a tracksuit?
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>>161273340
The only one I remember is that comparison picture.
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>>161251197
what's the problem anon? you don't also trust your life in the hands of a total strangers which you just met, seem to know a lot about your family and offers you a ride?

where are your manners?
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>>161274407
Ahh, you*re talking about 18 year old Shnobu's outfit, right? See
>>161265001
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>>161253711
characters: Kaiki, Sodachi, Numachi

Tags: mind_break, demon_girl, exorcism
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>>161258737
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>>161276293
>[
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>>161272968
Was there ever a complete version of this or did the artist want to cuck even himself
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>>161276614
There is, but I don't want to lewd bat further.
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>>161263423
>Shinobu would not agree to that too since Ougi also her daughter also.
I was talking about a scenario where he loses everyone, somehow.

>Ougi is technically his daughter so that is a no go.
Ougi's Oshina's niece anon, he said so himself even.
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>>161276731
You cannot separate entity bat from the lewd. It penetrates her, guides her actions. Dictates that no matter what age she fancies, she will first be lewd, then a bat.
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>>161276799
>first lewd, then bat
No.
Lewd the other sluts, she's too pure, you filthy anon.
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It makes me feel quite happy that a thread can still subsist mainly from Bat cute pictures without even slowing down.

You don't see this kind of thing happening with Crabfags.

>>161258737
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>>161267262
Why are you posting Math here? She was too much of a coward to just ask for help, when the police would find out either way what really happened when they come and rescue her like she wanted them to. She realised that shotararagi wasn't immediately recognising the house as her house but was having too much of a mathgasm to simply say that it's her house, not even directly ousting her parents.

Not hating on her character but Sodachi's the cause of everything good and bad that happens to Araragi in this series, and all that started by making him almost as suicidal as she is through her obtuse master plan.
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>>161276869
Maybe Kanbaru is more lewd, but anon, she wears a bandaid down there. You must not deny this. To deny lewd is to deny another very real part of bat. Love all of bat.
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>>161277044
>wears a bandaid down there
That just shows that she doesn't want rrgi to just pull down her pants.
Also I know that lewding is a part of her, it's just that people like you probably don't like the character in itself and only are there to fap to her or laugh/think about some of the dialogue she has. So go the fuck away with that bullshit excuse and just fap to her like the creep you are.
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>>161277151
I love all parts of bat, just some parts are more loveable than other parts kaka
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>>161277048
If I see that fucking bat one more time....
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>>161276770
>I was talking about a scenario where he loses everyone, somehow.
That is not very realistic. But still, anyone else would be better besides his own daughter. It is not like Ougi is the only one left on the planet. If she was then I probably would agree since we have no choice.
>Ougi is technically his daughter so that is a no go.
>Ougi's Oshina's niece anon, he said so himself even.
That is true too. Ever wonder how that happened to be? Oshino Meme gave Shinobu his family name to bound her into his family thereby making her like his sister (or sister-in-law or step-sister anything will do). Ougi came from Shinobu coupled with Araragi's alter ego making Ougi their daughter. And guess what! Niece is a daughter of one's brother or sister, or of one's brother-in-law or sister-in-law.
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>>161277239
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>>161264673
>anime happens
>everyone won't stop referring to Ougi as Shinobu's daughter now, despite that line being there before and no one repeating it this hard (or ever, really) before
Not ragging on Shinobu the character here but I guess Batfags are all secondaries, atleast all the vocal ones anyway.

Most important thing about Ougi is that she's Araragi's self-criticism. Not that she came from Shinobu's energy drain, Tooe's Rainy Devil, Seishiro's absorbed energy, and so on, none of that shit defines her character, they just had a hand in her physical creation. Ougi's not tied to Shinobu or any of those other list characters, just Araragi and to an extent Meme.
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>>161277267


>>161277285
No shit, in yesterdays thread some anon posted a spoiler for the Acerola scene in Shinobumonogatari and everyone thought Shinobu is now incomplete because they're too retarded to read the fucking novel.
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>>161277270
I know it's not realistic, my original point was just that, on a general level, he has a set-up where he'll always have a chick now. Can't even have a loner ending anymore because he has Ougi.
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>everyone thought Shinobu is now incomplete because they're too retarded to read the fucking novel

I saw that shit yesterday too, these niggers just went full turbosperger without a care in the world. It was disgusting.
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>>161277044
>>161277151
>>161277239
>she wears a bandaid down there
You mean this band-aid that Araragi presses whenever Shinobu is in the basket in front of his bike here >>161268236.
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>>161277537
Yeah, though that's a doujin anyway.
>>161277523
The original anon even tried to calm them down and stop the rumor but those retards just kept going.
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>>161277285
>Ougi's not tied to Shinobu or any of those other list characters, just Araragi and to an extent Meme.
Meme only by name. Araragi only by his alter-ego. Shinobu???

>“Given her origin and her nature, just as you were arguing, she’s not exactly the fighting type—but all the same, she ought to have full command of Heart-Under-Blade’s matter creation skill, at the very least.

>“With how hard Shinobu-san has exploited her matter creation skill up ’till now, it would be totally feasible for her to create an oddity, a high school girl, or whatever else.

>“Basically, the last name ‘Oshino’ doesn’t come from Meme Oshino, but from Shinobu Oshino. If you take into consideration that you and Shinobu Oshino are essentially one in body and soul, you could consider Ougi Oshino to be your joint production.

Why do you think Gaen will say any of that? I don't trust her that much but this is Gaen we are talking about.
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>>161277732
what
>Meme only by name

>Basically, the last name ‘Oshino’ doesn’t come from Meme Oshino
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>>161277676
That doujin ended up being pretty cute.
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>>161277732
Now quote the rest of it. It's not just a joint production between Araragi and Shinobu, it's a joint production between Araragi, Shinobu, Seishiro and all the oddity energy he absored, and Tooe. Though the only character she's actually tied to is Araragi and yes, to a lesser extent Meme. "Only by name" is a big fucking deal in this series where words hold power over oddities.
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>>161277804
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>>161277732
It's a minor part of Ougi's entire creation backstory. All that anon was saying was that people didn't get this nutty over it back when the LN version was translated, it's not like people made any effort to hide spoilers either.
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>>161276946
Sodachi is also a huge fuck up and did everything wrong, you're right, but she also is the only character who will call Araragi out when he's wrong, (Ougi doesn't count) so she was the ideal choice for an image to be used.
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>>161277781
>Basically, the last name ‘Oshino’ doesn’t come from Meme Oshino
The was catering this >>161277285 saying "to some extent". Though Meme is not directly part of Ougi's creation.
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>>161278032
>but she also is the only character who will call Araragi out when he's wrong
Hanekawa gets there eventually.
Yotsugi sort-of does but Araragi finds her too cute and loli to really give a shit and she can't fight her own ongoing mental corruption by Araragi & Tsukihi forever either.
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>>161278032
Shinobu does it too sometimes.
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>>161278114
Hanekawa does it to a degree, I agree, but there's plenty of bullshit that she should've called him out on, mostly about his behaviors towards her.
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>>161278164
But in the end she'll go along with anything. She says she'll do whatever he wants, after all.
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>>161277827
>Seishiro and all the oddity energy he absored,
Do you really think those oddities were not destroyed after Shinobu 'energy drained' them? The main purpose of the 'kaii killer' is to kill "Kaii". That power is tied to kokorowatari which is inside Shinobu and is precisely what the First minion asked Shinobu to return (plus the title itself)>>161277827
>and Tooe
How is this even possible???
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>>161278220
True, just wanted to point out that she did it a few time atleast.
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>>161278251
>Do you really think those oddities were not destroyed after Shinobu 'energy drained' them?
It's where Ougi got all her different oddity powers from. Like how she Lost Snail'd Meme & Kagenui, and so on.

>How is this even possible???
Rainy Devil was Tooe's own Hystery Tiger, moreorless.
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What the fuck are they called now?
Oddity?
Apparation?
Kaii?
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>>161278220
She can still get Araragi to change his mind by doing that. She also just knocks him the fuck out if he's way over the line.
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>>161278325
Harem Members
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>>161278325
Yes.
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>>161278325
Who the fuck knows? You can say whatever you want and people will know what you're talking about.
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>>161278325
Different subs say apparation instead of oddity, they're the same thing. Kaii is just the nip word either way.
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>>161278354
What the fuck even is that
From what scene
what
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>>161278418
Content aware zoom on Route X Kiss-Shot.
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>>161278486
Post cute Shinobu please
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>>161278554
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>>161278319
>It's where Ougi got all her different oddity powers from. Like how she Lost Snail'd Meme & Kagenui, and so on.
Ougi has matter creation, can turn into shadow & possible healing power. All of which is tied to Shinobu. Meme was not lost, he was just sight seeing. Kagenui got transported. The barrier is just a barrier like what Gaen & Oshino use to ward people but on a larger scale which is the whole town.

>How is this even possible???
>Rainy Devil was Tooe's own Hystery Tiger, moreorless.
Hear what gaen has to say about that:

>“However, it wasn’t the Rainy Devil that got mixed into the First, but the unidentifiable compound my sister made, and the result, as you can see—oh, no, this isn’t me going off on a tangent.

See! Gaen said herself it was not the "rainy devil" itself. It most likely served as an energy "catalyst" that triggered Ougi's creation.
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>>161276946
Yes, that 11 year old girl is a coward for not openly facing her parents that beat her up every day (even more after she came back from the police earlier for being "rebellious") and already systematically accused her of being the one who was destroying her family causing her self-hatred without it becoming true by ratting them out.
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>>161278554
It's okay anon, the original cute shinobu anon is still here.
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>>161278647
Yep. I didn't say she didn't have a good reason for being a coward, because she does. Nothing to do with my point though.

Also like I said, just saying that it was her house when she had Araragi come over would've been enough, she herself admits that she got too lost in the escapism of teaching him math though.
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>>161278619
Not that guy but yeah, Oshino & Kagenui were "lost" through the lost cow power, the anime cut that part out.
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>>161278554
I gotta have some variation in my Shinobu folder, anon.
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>>161278802
>Not that guy but yeah, Oshino & Kagenui were "lost" through the lost cow power, the anime cut that part out.

could you post the exact dialogue? Because I only have these:

Oshino Meme
>“True. I’ll have to give my deepest regards to Tsubasa-chan for dragging back that fledgling junior of mine—I wave my white flag to her. What’s really amazing isn’t that she managed to find him, but that she found him and then managed to bring him back.”
>“…That she was able to break through the barrier, you mean? But she was a resident of this town to begin with, so I don’t think the barrier had any effect on her. The Lost Cow isn’t supposed to work on those who want to return home.”
>In response to my amateur conjecture, Gaen-san said, “No, that’s not what I meant,” and gave a shake of her head. “It’s that she convinced Meme Oshino to come back.”

Kagenui
>Still, if Ougi-chan theoretically wanted to keep Oshino and Kagenui-san split up, it was inevitable that Kagenui-san would end up at the North Pole. After all, she can’t walk on the ground. In that case, Ougi-chan had no choice but to send her to the North Pole—a place composed of floating hunks of ice in lieu of earth..
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>>161278619
>All of which is tied to Shinobu
and all the other shit that makes up her physical existence, yeah. She has a bunch of unidentified powers because of it, not just Shinobu.

>t most likely served as an energy "catalyst" that triggered Ougi's creation.
I know she's not literally the Rainy Devil? She's not Shinobu's literal child either, all their energies just combined to spawn Ougi, that's my original point even. She's only tied to Araragi and to a lesser extent Meme.
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>>161279059
I'll have a look, give me a minute.
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>>161278750
I don't know what's your point, something about not posting a monogatari character in a monogatari thread. And them some victim blaming about how a little girl is responsible for her abuse for not standing up against her own authority figure that is especially violent whenever she does anything of the sort.

And she didn't admit anything of the sort, that's just an interpretation of the lyrics of mathemagics.
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>>161279231
>about how a little girl is responsible for her abuse for not standing up against her own authority figure that is especially violent whenever she does anything of the sort.
Don't sperg out, I said nothing of the sort. I was replying to someone calling Araragi an asshole (understandable) while posting Sodachi. Araragi only fucked up with Sodachi because of Sodachi's own obtuse approach that whole deal and ended up making him almost as suicidal as she was, that's all. Didn't say a thing about Sodachi's own sob story until you brought it up, it's a seperate matter to what I said.
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>>161279335
Sodachi isn't suicidal though, she never did anything to take her own life. On the opposite, she always tries to live on even with no good expectations.

And that poster probably only did because she is the character known for insulting Araragi, it was you who blamed her for her own troubles.
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>>161279489
>On the opposite, she always tries to live on even with no good expectations.
It's more that she just hasn't died.

>it was you who blamed her for her own troubles.
I 'blamed' her for Araragi's own troubles because it literally is the root of his story in the series, I know that she wasn't the cause of her own problems. I dunno why you're trying to redirect everything I'm saying into something about Sodachi's backstory, are you just in the mood to talk about her or something?
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>>161276731
She's a fucking vampire, they're inherantly lewd in their mythology. Pick a different character if you want pure.
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>>161279587
>are you just in the mood to talk about her or something?
Not with someone who is clearly not open to any kind of discussion.
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>>161279655

>>161277151
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>>161279115
>She has a bunch of unidentified powers because of it, not just Shinobu.
Shinobu is just Shinobu and not some oddity soup.
>She's not Shinobu's literal child either, all their energies just combined to spawn Ougi, that's my original point even.
Just consider all those these oddities sums up to Shinobu only.
>She's only tied to Araragi and to a lesser extent Meme.

Gaen said otherwise.

>“Basically, the last name ‘Oshino’ doesn’t come from Meme Oshino, but from Shinobu Oshino. If you take into consideration that you and Shinobu Oshino are essentially one in body and soul, you could consider Ougi Oshino to be your joint production.

Gaen said that Araragi alone could not created such powerful oddity. But still would cling on Meme's involvement even though he has no direct involvement in Ougi's creation. Even ignore what Gaen said:

>“With how hard Shinobu-san has exploited her matter creation skill up ’till now, it would be totally feasible for her to create an oddity, a high school girl, or whatever else.
it would be totally feasible for her to create an oddity, a high school girl, or whatever else.

>“People can think whatever they want deep down, and it’s not like they’re going to create an oddity that way—however, to declare you ‘one mere high schooler’ would be a bit of a misnomer. After all, you’re a quasi-human who keeps the “People can think whatever they want deep down, and it’s not like they’re going to create an oddity that way—however, to declare you ‘one mere high schooler’ would be a bit of a misnomer. After all, you’re a quasi-human who keeps the remnants of a legendary vampire in your shadow.
keeps the remnants of a legendary vampire in your shadow.

Still, if you take into consideration that Shinobu&Araragi is "one body and one soul", You are saying that Shinobu is involved too by technicality. A deduction straight from Gaen herself.
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>>161279824
Nope, she's only tied to Araragi and to a lesser extent Meme. Shinobu's energy, Rainy Devil's energy, Seishiro and all the energy he absored were just the ingredients for Ougi's physical creation (I was arguing that Ougi is an oddity soup, not Shinobu), as per everything you just quoted explains.

What defines Ougi's actual character and personality is just Araragi and to a lesser extent Meme. Not Shinobu, or any of those other things I listed. Ougo's not tied to them in any way.
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>>161279956
>Shinobu's energy
So your mother is not involved in your creation because it was just an egg cell, a sperm plus energy coming from food and the uterus for space that is responsible for your creation.

>What defines Ougi's actual character and personality is just Araragi and to a lesser extent Meme. Not Shinobu, or any of those other things I listed. Ougo's not tied to them in any way.
So you are stuck with the "metaphorical" & "figurative", that explains it. But it is surprising though that you considered relation such as "Meme's niece". I don't limit myself to that so I can process more information. It is like saying to your parents that they are not related to you because you don't have anything in common with them. Well, Shinobu is a person too and Ougi inherited her powers. That is something common to them too.

So in short this is the only thing you concluded is that.

>She's only tied to Araragi and to a lesser extent Meme.

But if I go with your rule.

>If you take into consideration that Shinobu&Araragi is "one body and one soul", You are saying that Shinobu is involved too by technicality. A deduction straight from Gaen herself.

Making:

>She's only tied to Araragi/Shinobu and to a lesser extent Meme.
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>>161280405
>your mother
>It is like saying to your parents that they are not related to you
All I've been saying is that Ougi's not tied to Shinobu. If you really want to take the parent thing hyper-literally like you're insisting then even then you're being misleading because Ougi is an oddity soup of Rainy Devil energy, Seishiro's energy and Shinobu's energy that she then dispelled, but it has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

>She's only tied to Araragi/Shinobu and to a lesser extent Meme.
No, because whatever Shinobu thinks or does has no effect on Ougi. The exact opposite of that is the case with Araragi. Ougi's based on Araragi's self-criticism, not Shinobu's. She's not tied to her.

All my initial point was is that it's strange that everyone here is now latching onto the one line about Bat over the several dozen lines stated by a couple different characters about Ougi basically being Araragi. Even though we've had that line for months now and no one said anything about it before.
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>>161280405
>>161280755
>>161279956
>>161279824
This entire conversation is just one faggot taking an explanation too literally and the other faggot taking it too figuratively. She's not literally Shinobu's daughter and she wasn't the only factor involved in Ougi's creation, and she's not actually Araragi but just his oddity. Gaen's consistently incorrect about Araragi too so stop taking everything she says in regards to him as word of god too
literally flinging shit at each other over nothing
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>>161281161
Just let them sperg out, they wont listen to you anyway.
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>>161281161
This. She's a result of Araragi and Shinobu's "joint production" in terms of them being essentially one. Araragi's mind manifested itself through Shinobu's energy, since he's tied to her, and became Ougi. It metaphorically can be called a "childbirth", guess that's Nisio's hidden joke, but not too literally.
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>>161281161
>Gaen's consistently incorrect about Araragi too so stop taking everything she says in regards to him as word of god too
literally flinging shit at each other over nothing
Right! Gaen takes advantage of peoples lack of information/knowledge. Like what she did with Araragi. She knows that if Araragi insist that Ougi is him, Ougi will not deny it so the darkness would come and get her so it is goodbye Ougi. That is the only thing she wants. Since the darkness can take her down. I still believe that Shinobu could to but I wonder why Gaen did not push for that.

>But it seems that you are a gaenfag even though her words are not unbreakable.
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>>161279824
>>161279956
>>161280405
>>161280755

>that much asperger

Your faggots need to calm the fuck down and learn when to stop.

She's not Shinobu's daughter nor is she Araragi, her creation just had influence of both but not in a familiar or "my genes + your genes = scarycute girl" way.

More like you are made of the same material that the stars are, but you don't jump on the street calling the sun "papa" like a turboautist.

Seriously, stop with that. It's disgusting.
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>>161281450
>This. She's a result of Araragi and Shinobu's "joint production" in terms of them being essentially one. Araragi's mind manifested itself through Shinobu's energy, since he's tied to her, and became Ougi. It metaphorically can be called a "childbirth", guess that's Nisio's hidden joke, but not too literally.

The selection of words is what led it to go from being "metaphorical" to being "technical".

And then adding things like this,

>“With how hard Shinobu-san has exploited her matter creation skill up ’till now, it would be totally feasible for her to create an oddity, a high school girl, or whatever else.

He clearly is leading people to think that Ougi is someone Araragi&Shinobu brought into existence.

All of this is separate from his philosophical theme "saving yourself" and Ougi's purpose which is to criticize Araragi.
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>>161282419
Idiot.
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>>161282419
Why are you this much of a faggot, anon?
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>thought this was going to be was waifu wars all the way through
>decide to avoid thread
>ends up as cute shinobu posting
I feel bad for not having contributed.
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>>161261881
>
I don't know everything. I only know what I know
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>>161282448
>>161282514
The fuck did he post?
>>161282593
You still can, I started this shit after all.
Fuck that Ougi discussion.
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>>161282621
That took you a long time, Hanekawa.
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>>161282627
Some /vg/ shit.
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>>161282962
I see.
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>~100 out of the 500 posts are cute bats
Whew.
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>>161263423
>technically his daughter so that is a no go.
More like it's a go go, remember which guy we're talking about here.
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>>161268028
とてもショックです
でも幸せならOKです
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>>161282627
>Fuck that Ougi discussion.
It wasn't even a discussion, one anon mentioned Ougi and then one anon went nuts over them not unilaterally connecting them to Shinobu, and then everyone else yelling at them. The usual Bat vs Crab shit we got earlier in this same thread was worse.
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>>161284068
Yeah but Shinobufags and Gaharafags live for having that same conversation in every thread, most will never admit it though.
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>>161284029
Something like
"It's by no means a shock."
"But in the case of happiness it's O K"?
I don't even know man
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>>161262801
Only if it happens after Musubi, which doesn't seem to be the case. No point of this "end of my adolescence" stuff in Owari + Musubi actually having a way better character set-up prepared only for Nisio to jump back to the college years where Araragi still acts like an adolescent teenager.
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>>161244648
they'll have an open marriage and share hanekawa on the side
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>>161269709
sauce?
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>>161241855
>Why doesn't he just dump Senjyogahara?

Implying you can cure cancer that easily.
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>>161284447
https://nhentai.net/g/200416/
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>>161284736
Thanks anon.
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>>161284736
>tfw hardly any kiss-shot lewds
Those older forms need love too.
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>>161285242
https://nhentai.net/g/153770/
https://nhentai.net/g/164925/
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>>161285363
I have those favorited.
She still needs more lewd fanart and doujins though.
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>>161285363
post more anon!
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>>161278486
I thought content aware satan was taken down?
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>>161285488
https://nhentai.net/g/130067/ https://nhentai.net/g/87812/ https://nhentai.net/g/85136/
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Holy shit anons

>>161285507
>>161285507
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>>161286097
How the fuck do I make my dick go down now?
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>>161286314
I don't even fucking know.
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