Dragon Ball Super

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S P O T S

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Kiero

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>>161035129
>leave universe 10 to us

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Hakai or not?

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H-Hayai!

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>>161035129
time to sleep old man

>>161035421
no.
Yellow sprinkle dust =/=/ purple ki.
therefore it is not hakai.

>>161035421
not

Where is the Majorafag? I wasn't here when Majora got btfo by Krillin. Did he get butthurt?

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First he was stronger than SSBx10 Goku in the Champa arc.

Then he was nerfed to SSB Goku level in the rematch and now he's apparently weaker than SSG Goku.

Top kek I wonder how Hitfags feel about this?

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reminder Caulifla stinks

>>161035443
.... and toppo

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>>161035470
>hurr durr
watch your mouth vegetafag the jobbing will come

I love the ground.

thats why I fucked your wife

>>161035470
That's because Hit is Super's Tien and everyone should've seen it a mile away

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tfw fans of an ugly donut steel female Saiyan, a Cell Saga hasbeen, and a Precure reject is what finally did dbs in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPLe-eQQrQ

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>>161035520
I hope we get an afterparty episode.

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>>161035538
>>161035520

>>161035470
All his IMPROVEMENT shit was about the lenghtning of his own timeskip, but not his actual physical strength. Meanwhile Goku has been getting stronger through much of Super. It's about time Hit the one trick pony outlived his usefulness and ended up outgrown by the saiyans as happened with everyone else thus far.
One purple loser out, Beerus is in next for the Goku rape train.

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Is 17 going to job?

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>>161035561
>le fish god
All GoD designs except Beerus are garbage. Even youtube pedros did it better.

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oc

>>161035129
>Toei before another livestream goes down

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who is he going to ryona next?

>>161035644
thanks doc

>>161035625
Seeing as almost nobody fucking knows what jobbing means in this shitty general. Yes, yes he will. If we go with actual definition, nope.

>>161035603
This. If there was any conistency his punches wouldn't even budge SSGSS + kaioken Goku (to say nothing of his new hidden transformaion) by now, if they were to fight like this again. But then again Goku is saving himself for his new husban- rival for this tournament in Jiren.

>>161035643
GIn is badass.
>Smartest GoD
>second highest mortal level
>Only GoD with a six pack
>Designed by Toyotaro
Beerus is just Toriyama's cat.

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Reminder SSB Kaioken looks dumb

>>161035470
>First he was stronger than SSBx10 Goku in the Champa arc.
He was not "stronger". The time skip gave him a massive advantage. Even base goku was able to go up against him for a bit. And standard SSB goku was able to give him a godd fight. Hit just kept on "improving" by making the length of his time skip longer.

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>>161035644
thanks doc

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>>161035644
>settled for yamcha's sloppy second
I AM DONE HAHAHAHA

>>161035129
So Zeno is Toei?

>>161035643
But only 3 of those are good and one of them is official
get lost spic apologist

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Why is SSG so much better looking than SSB? I guess a big part of it has to do with the fact that SSB is a joke form now and I can't take it seriously anymore.

>>161035603
His improvement ability clearly raised his power back in the U6 arc anime version, otherwise he'd have been stomped by Kaioken Blue Goku, since Blue Goku by itself was enough to land hits on him, not counting timeskip.

>>161035818
This

>>161035470
Why didn't the tentacles reach for his groin? Dyspo is also wearing spandex. This is inaccurate for anime.

>>161035802
I'm not a spic apologist, even pedro designs are still better than official

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>>161035644
THATS IT MATE TOO FAR

>>161035807
It's not. You're just bored of Blue.

>>161035625
Maybe. But i don't expect it to be a curb stomp battle. He is still almost certainly going to lose though, unfortunately.

>>161035670
>who is he going to ryona next?

Pan. She has to continue her parents legacy after all.

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>>161035625
It was interrupted do you read the fucking spoilers

>>161035818
Nice headcanon

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>>161035625
since 17=gohan in power and that fat bitch beats him that would mean that RIBRIANNE BITCH ASS IS SUPERIOR THAN MYSTIC GOHAN AND FREAKING SUPER BUU
that would make her above everyone in dbz besides buutenks/han and vegito

FUCK OFF TORYIAMA

>>161035625
Probably not. Leave him to Toppo

>>161035470
Can't wait to see Hit get reked.

>>161036143
other universes cant have strong people?

>>161036073
Hit outright describes his improvement ability as a way to "become stronger", different from the Saiyan's transformations. The only headcanon here is yours that by becoming stronger he didn't actually mean becoming stronger, just improving his special ability.

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>tfw no episode today

>>161036360
fat female comic relief characters shouldn't be strong

>>161036476
What???

>>161036143
I don't even think they made up their mind how strong base Goku and Vegeta are. Base Copy Vegeta tanks SSJ3 without flinching which means every one of these jobbers is close to god level for no reason

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Reminder

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>>161036636
>Cauli not even SS2
kek

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>>161036476
Hakai

>>161036704
She wants the zenkai boost

>>161036633
the base thing is so off in the anime I think they retconned it with the reappearance of goku using ssg.

>>161035807
>I guess a big part of it has to do with the fact that SSB is a joke form now and I can't take it seriously anymore.
This honestly. Seeing SSB is boring in the anime because you know it won't be used for anything special. It's more exciting to see it be used in the manga because it's treated as an actual godly form that can get shit done there.

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No wonder the Dragon Ball wiki is so shit. Headcanon fags are literally running it. Why the fuck is this Neffyarious fag a moderator when he keeps trying to name Kale's SS "Super Saiyan Green," and locks the page when people disagree with that dumb headcanon shit.

>>161036749
>It's more exciting to see it be used in the manga because it's treated as an actual godly form that can get shit done there.
manga had to introduce "mastered" SSB to make it relevant

>>161036704
so? she's getting fucked

>>161035357
>spics calls him bills
>burgers call him beerus like virus
Its Beers for godsake.

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>>161035807
I prefer SSB desu

>>161036888
Didn't the same shit happened with SS Anger Trunks until Dokkan said the name?

>>161036888
>this is the autistic fanbase of DBS
And this surprises you how?

>>161037088
In the manga, yeah. But in the anime SSB is pathetic.

>>161036896
>manga had to introduce "mastered" SSB to make it relevant
No? Super Saiyan Blue on its own beat Hit, and if you want to get technical, Mastered SSB was to fight against someone else who could use the form without the power/stamina decrease. SSGSS in the manga has only really been outdone by another SSGSS.

>>161037089
>Dokkan said the name?
You mean heroes? And probably.

>>161037069
>birus
Name one person who says this

>>161037139
SSB Vegeta was jobbing to SS Black first time around

>>161037088
SSB is still cool in the manga, it's actually quite intimidating. Unlike the anime perfect ki jobber shitter

>>161037178
Supa Saiyajin Ikari.
Yes it was Heroes.

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>>161037088
I really hope they introduce more God Ki techniques

>>161035129
Will he admit Zamasu was right? Because he really was, if his plan actually succeeded, nothing of this would've happen.

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These are your new main characters for the next 20 years. Say something nice about them.

>>161037088
Who colored this? I'm trying to find a picture of melted defused Zamasu.

>>161037403
No they won't, GT is canon now and Frieza was nowhere to be seen before Super 17 saga :^)

>>161035807
Because it doesn't look like your typical Super Saiyan form, with the colored base hairstyle and how it makes Goku look thinner and younger.

>>161037440

>GT is canon
>Freeza with an i
>:^)

well played, anon.

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>>161037420
Some anon colored it, is this what you're looking for?

>>161037508
Thank you so much.

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>>161037506
>>GT is canon
Indeed, pic related

>Freeza with an i
>Freeza
dumbass, Frieza is the proper way to spell it

>>161036472
Nice headcanon

>>161035423
Maybe this is universe 10 best warrior after all, better than Murichim... I mean, being leader doesn't mean that character is the strongest of each universe, Toppo and Gohan are leader too.

Do you prefer Golden form Freeza or Final form Frieza? I think both Freezas are good. Do you think that Freeza lookalike Frost will get his own golden Frieza form?

>>161037069
In Spanish, "Bills" is basically pronouced Beers. Kind of like "Beeyas", but said quickly and with an accent it sounds correct.

>>161037573
Put more effort into your baitpost. Retard.

>>161037643
l like both, to be honest.
Full Powered Golden Freeza when?

>>161037747
I hope Golden Freeza powers up to Full Power Golden Frieza. I actually liked buff Freeza.

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Odds of Gohan 1 shotting Jiren?

>>161037714
Except that's wrong, retard.
lt's pronounced "be-less" in Spanish.

>>161037747
In the same moment F starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw

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Chadhan! Save me from el grande padre!

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>>161037847
200%

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>>161037793
>I actually liked buff Freeza.
Yeah, same.

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>What do you mean "I'm disqualified"?
>I thought Jiren would survive such a pitiful blast

>>161035644
This is great

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Leave the Grand Priest to me, Goku-san!

>>161037857
What? LL makes a "Y" sound as in "Ya/ Yo". And no spanish person I've heard has said it like "be-less". Some of them say "Be-ls" when they try to sound English but there is never a "less" sound. What spanish people have you been talking to?

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1 of 11. Also why is dbs animation so poor?

>>161037262
>SSB Vegeta was jobbing to SS Black first time around
That was during the whole process of his Super Saiyan turning into Super Saiyan Rose though, and Vegeta was facing stamina issues. Vegeta ended up making Black a fool when he trained to remove the SSB stamina issues though.

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>>161038065
2/11

>>161037904
>>161038050
Making his face purple is so dumb. Ruins the whole design

>>161037069
>burgers call him beerus like virus
So like the original name pun?

Beerus keeps both the Beer and Virus pun, thus it's the superior name.

>>161035625
Too many u7 guys still left. Someone has to take them out. But yes, he'll job.

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>>161038103
3/11

>>161038139
Speaking of that I don't think a single U6 fighter has been knocked out yet.

>>161037069
It's Beerus because it was originally a virus pun that became a beer pun. Beerus is the best you can do to keep the spirit of both.

>>161036167
Toppo will be for Frieza or Vegeta.

>>161035625
No, Ribrianne is fucking trash.

>>161038153
why do you think it is fair to sompare a movie to a weekly show?

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>>161038153
4/11

>>161038139
17 will job to Brianne, she'll job to Vegeta. And whoever Vegeta Jobs to will be beat by Goku.

Freezafags are going to be so upset when he is the lone fighter from ToP to get perma-deleted.

>>161035625
I hope... already tired of 17 and his stupid training.

>>161038180
Anyone who isn't a saiyan will job in 1 or 2 episodes. Don't expect anything out of Toriyama / Toei's writing.

>>161038153
That one was horrible

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>Started binging the Dragon Ball franchise
>Convinced to watch the dub over the sub
>Now almost at the end of Z and realizing the dub is over 100 episodes behind the sub
>Going to have to choose between switching to the sub after getting so used to the English voices, or sit 100 episodes behind and risk getting shit spoiled constantly

I just don't know if I could ever get used to kid voice on adult goku

>>161038210
DELET

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>>161038213
That was just a random webm. I was using the first as an example. The rest are just a dump

>>161038217
One of the best fights in dragon ball easily

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>>161035129
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

>>161038232
>I just don't know if I could ever get used to kid voice on adult goku
you can. Many many many people were in that mentality. They have gotten used to nozaawa.

>>161038232
I didn't mind it to begin with, but masako now sounds exactly the same for Goku, Gohan and Goten. and because Gohan is such a whiny unlikable cunt in DBS it makes it seem like Goku is an autistic retard and has exactly the same voice as Gohan.

>>161038219

>Freeza getting perma-deleted

Yeah, dream on. Freeza is untouchable, the nips would riot.

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6/11

>>161038205
Vegeta probably gets vengeance on Hit. Frieza's a good bet

>>161038315
This, a combination of bad writing and nozawa sounding exactly the same for every character she voices made me grow to dislike granny goku

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>>161038328
7/11

How long until /a/ finally crowns Cauifla best girl then?

>>161038315
>Goku, Gohan
No. Gohan speaks much much more formally than goku. Goku is a hillbilly who loves to fight and speaks like one. Goten speas at a uch higher picth and much more childish.

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Why does Gohan ruin fucking everything?

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>>161038375
8/11

>>161038375
Maybe if she was a well developed character sure, but nobody apart from maybe Bulma in dbs could qualify for best girl right now.

>>161038153
>base Goku jobbing to rocks
I still am mad about this.

>>161038232
>I just don't know if I could ever get used to kid voice on adult goku
Yeah, no shit dumbass, you were supposed to watch the entire series in Japanese, so that when Goku grew up during the 23rd Budokai, you wouldn't even care that he still has a child's voice.

Congratulations, you played yourself by going with the memes and picking the worst option to watch the series.

>>161038404
he was born

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>>161038404
Gohan is as stupid as his father

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9/11

>>161038315
>but masako now sounds exactly the same for Goku, Gohan and Goten
No, she doesn't? Are you fucking deaf?

She uses a different tone and pitch for all 3. As she did with Black, too.

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>>161038471
10/11

>>161038483
>this amount of denial
Wee woo wee woo the dragon ball super defense squad is here!

>>161038533
>dragon ball super defense
its more to do with nozawa as opposed to Super

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Champa's a cuck

>>161038533
t. literal autist

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>>161038517
11/11

>tfw Gohan will be responsible for killing that loser Gowasu

/a/ gonna be on suicide watch when Chadhan begins his rampage. First he'll fuck Jiren, then he'll fuck Caulifla and Kale.

>>161038550
She sounded different for each character in DBZ, in DBS she sounds almost exactly the same, only for Black did she sound remotely different.

>>161038579
Is this Satou?

>>161038582
You are literally tone deaf if you can't tell the difference. Sometimes she can blend her Goku into her Gohan whenever Gohan's fighting, but the difference between those two and Goten is pretty fucking clear.

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>>161038375
That must be a joke. Caulifla is downright hideous, especially in base. But maybe I've been spoiled by watching shows with hotter girls than DB would ever have.

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>this fucking thread

>>161038441
Bulma IS the best girl in DB period and anyone who argues otherwise has no taste.

>>161038232

go back to your shitty dub then

Does Gohan, Chi-Chi, Goten, and Pan really have demon blood?

How would Toppo and Zamasu get on? One is JUSTICEman and the other is SEIGIman

>>161038375
>>161038579
>webm spammer is the chad falseflagger
wew

>>161038657
Mai is better.

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>>161038646
>Deliberately antagonizing /a/ by insulting best girl.

You've made my list.

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GIVE ME FOOOOOD!

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Why do you watch Super if you hate it so much?

Is it really that bad, or do you play up it's mediocrity and still find it good enough to watch every week?

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>>161038657
You = wrong

>>161038656
>Frieza
>i
Delete this.

>>161038770

NO LIPS
LOL

>>161038734
>>161038770
You = not only autistic but outright mentally retarded

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>>161038794
you're upsetting me anon

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Hello fellow VegetaBros. How far do you think Vegeta will get in the tournament. Will he win or lose to Hit? We know he won't beat Jiren cause Dragon Ball but is there a chance he may work with Goku and contribute to Jirens defeat?

>>161038811
Double dubs confirm it. Caulifags aren't right in the head.

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Thoughts on this?

>>161038579
Never paid attention to all those speed lines used in DBZ. Still looks really good compared to what Toei is doing now.

>>161038856
>not 17
No thanks

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>going through transformations like a walk in the park
>gohan out next week
whatever Caulifla wants, she gets.

>>161038856
I wish that was me.

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>>161038847
>is there a chance he may work with Goku and contribute to Jirens defeat?

Implying CHADhan needs help beating Jiren

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Gohan vs Geran preview
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>>161038856

It's less cool after he ran away from her.

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i don't give a shit on what is going one
i'm only here for the lewd female saiyans

These threads have been pretty dead lately. Did the usual shitposters get banned?

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>>161038893
>Jobbing to literal jobbers before FemBroly saves her.
I think not.

>>161038848
Don't bring me into this bullcrap fight, if it was Gohanfag I'd say the same

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>>161038656
You want the cropped version.

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>Take a seat boys and girls. Here is how you Job.

>>161038758
>Why do you watch Super if you hate it so much?
I want to know the general gist of what's going to happen, but the manga being monthly makes it too slow for me. I'm ok with how bad the anime is, since I get a majority of my enjoyment from the manga. Part of me still hopes the Dragon Room can fix the choreography issues at some point.

>>161038952
Can't you see? That one autistic samefagger is here again

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>>161038758
What's wrong with rooting for best boy?

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Will we ever see this much anal devestation again?

>>161036143

Gohan is above 17 actually.

>>161038758
it's shit but I enjoy seeing what others make of it and it's the only series airing that I sometimes make OC for.

>>161038952
One samefag couldn't possibly do this much damage to the quality of these threads. It's about 10-15 trolls rotating between Gohan, Caulifla, and Brianne. Nobody else is a problem.

am I still banned

>>161038928
Goddamn Kai voices suck.
And why didn't gohan say mesenko....also.
It's demonschool is a fairly hype martial art fighting style.

>>161038977
that isn't wrong either faglord

>>161039098
And 18, don't forget 18

>>161036068

These threads are populated by mostly retards.

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>>161035670

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Huge ass plot twist this tournament.

What would you want to see?

I'd pay to see Goku get ringed out and have someone else take the spotlight for once.

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Anti-godhanfags absolutely BTFO

>Daizenshuu states that you have to be at least twice someone's power to take attacks from them without damage
>Goku was entirely undamaged after Kale beat him around
>Goku at least 2x stronger than Kale confirmed

Kalefags BTFO.

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I love kale

>>161039104
>not prefering Kai's Freeza
Also I didn't see any Masenkos

>>161039140
Well yeah you'd either have to be masochistic, actively enjoy shitting on the series, like the series because it caters to some obscure fetish, or retarded to unironically continue to enjoy this series.

>>161039155
What did he mean by this?

>>161039161
holding back

>>161039195
Or you just enjoy it because it's stupid fun, you know. Not everyone fits into your retarded little opinion spreadsheet you dumb cuck.

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>>161035129
Can we all agree that 17 is going to win the tournament and get a PIMP boat to cruise the world like the goddamn Chad he is?

>>161039173
>Almost get knocked by Basil
>Gets easily knocked by Caulifla
Napapa deserved better

>>161039241
Kale was relatively undamaged by SSB Goku's Kamehameha which means she was 2x stronger than it. But Goku is confirmed 2x stronger than max Kale. Goku holding back confirmed. Kalefags BLOWN. THE. FUCK. OUT.

>>161039152
That would be good, for a change. Never going to happen, though, that fucking autistic faggot toryama.

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>>161039213

>>161039195
>>161039254
>have to be retarded to unironically continue to enjoy this series
>it's stupid fun
>calls other people dumb cuck
Impressive, people actually label themselves retarded to defend DBS

>>161039173
cutest design, annoying as fuck autistic character

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>>161039290
Kalebros never claimed that she was stronger than SSJB Goku.

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Guess the manga really is closer to the outline
they had to reintroduce SSB's stamina drain after ignoring it for most of the series
they had to bring back SSG as a normal transformable form
Hit is now nerfed to a level where a SSG tier opponent can beat him
Gohan kept flip flopping between "he gave up martial arts" to "He's training" over and over
Black's bio mentions him having normal SS
I'm expecting the whole Universe 12 time travel thing to be mentioned too

All the things that people blamed Toyotaro for "doing his own thing" are being brought in the anime, making it like it was Toei doing their own thing while Toyo was being a stickler to the outline

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>>161038657
Heh. Nice try pleb.

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>>161039152
Universe 7 gets eliminated and disappears.

However, instead of simply not existing as most viewers expected, the universe is actually banished to a new anti-world or some sort of odd existence.

New arc is about trying to bring the universe back into existence

>>161039347
>you don't like this thing for the reasons I say you should
>that means you're retarded
Grow up.

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The absolute state of jobhanfags

>>161039195
Your standards have to be holding back.

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>>161039397

>>161039437
Truth hurts doesn't it?

>>161039406
I wouldn't say the manga is closer to the outline. More like since Toriyama works more closely with Toyotaro, he picks the best of Toyotaro's original ideas and uses them for the outline of his next story arc, and then Toei has to retcon their entire story because of it.

The SSB stamina drain, SSG, Hit being SSG level and everything else you mentioned would have been mentioned previously if they were in the outline. They're probably on this arc's outline due to Toyotaro's influence on Toriyama.

>>161039397
>SSJB
>J
I smell tacos.

>>161039161
You think Best Girl needs to be stronger than fucking Goku? What Kalebros thought she was stronger anyway?

>>161039264
He's the most useful universe 7 member... almost as strong as a ssb (well, now weaker than Gohan according to writers), he also has that fucking force field and unlimited energy, he could be the winner and MVP of the tournament... if he weren't 17, he isn't even the most popular android.

>>161039492
I can't tell summer ends.

>>161039492
>my opinion is truth
How old are you?

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>>161039406
Toriyama probably told them to be more like his boy Toyotaro.
Toeicucks should just stop existing at this point.

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>>161039516
So Toyotaro is ruining DBS

>>161039536
So you can go back to school and stop getting bullied on DBS threads?

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>>161039531
How's your first Super thread, champ?

>>161039597
is he trolling or what? Dyspo is a rabbit not a cat

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>>161039516
>>161039582
>Toyo is ruining DBS
>by not doing stupid shit like Sueper Saiyan, Spirit Bomb Blade, and "whoops I got so mad I merged with the multiverse lol"
Toeidogs sure are SEETHING.

>>161039438
is that vegeta?

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soon

>>161039597
>>161039597
It is just speculation on his end. Toshio's word is not gospel, but it is treated like such here

>>161039397
You have the archive to check that
desuarchive.org/a/thread/160188271/#160189241

>>161039662
>Toshio's word is not gospel, but it is treated like such here
So he's basically that cuck Herms?

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>>161039644
Not quite.

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>>161039516
>and then Toei has to retcon their entire story because of it
That's Toei's fault for not waiting until the manga had plenty of chapters out before creating the anime

>>161039516
>The SSB stamina drain,

SSB stamina drain WAS mentioned in the U6 arc. It's the reason Goku initially fighters Hit in base in both anime and manga, but then the anime just ignored it afterwards and Toei's writers likely hoped Toriyama never would reference it again.

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>>161039632
Everything you mentioned is better than the crap that's in the manga
>Apparently I have healing powers
>Apparently I gave away healing powers
>Random Hakai asspull
>SSB Vegeta losing to SS Black
>Goku powering down to SS just to lose to Zamasu
>Completed SSB asspull
>Apparently I have cloning powers
>Zeno destroys the timeline for no fucking reason

The manga has so much shit writing

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Is this how Android 18 vs Caulifla will end?

>>161039705
>that garbage art
Spics should be gassed.

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What did he mean by this?

>>161036888
Based Neffy

>>161039702
He's a script writer on the show. His twitter posts aren't official statements though, and people attempt to take what he says very literally, which is dumb considering how his English clearly isn't good.

>>161039775
Zamasu was right once again.

>>161039630
Maybe they are from the same species but are from different races? A species of purple humanoid animals, with what appear to be cats and rabbits being one of the races that exist. It's fiction for kids, doesn't really need to make much sense.

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H O L D I N G B A C K
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>>161039736
>Apparently I have healing powers
Foreshadowed and makes perfect sense considering Trunks was a Kaioshin apprentice.
>Apparently I gave away healing powers
By deciding not to be a Kaioshin apprentice anymore? How is this even an asspull?
>Random Hakai asspull
Massively foreshadowed, as detailed countless times over countless threads.
>SSB Vegeta losing to SS Black
After beating his shit in and then Black receiving a Zenkai. Black's entire gimmick was that his Saiyan Power was ridiculously strong. This happened in the anime and the manga.
>Goku powering down to SS just to lose to Zamasu
What?
>Completed SSB asspull
So God-Blue isn't an asspull but Completed SSB is? They both went through different upgrade paths to more effectively utilize SSB. Goku's just happened to work better.
>Apparently I have cloning powers
Speedreader detected.
>Zeno destroys the timeline for no fucking reason
Because Zeno is an amoral child, you retard. He blew up six universes because he was in a bad mood.

Toeimongrels just keep getting utterly BTFO at every turn. It's almost sad.

>>161039720
Why not fight him in SSJ? It doesn't waste stamina.

>>161039844
Toshio didn't handle that ep so who cares?

>>161039775
>Zamasu did nothing wrong

>>161039406
>making it like it was Toei doing their own thing
That has been obvious ever since the SSB + kaioken eye cancer. Next time try to come upcwith something new.

>>161039844
See
>>161039161
and
>>161039290

What happened to anime threads and manga threads? Not this shit again, in addition to the ramped up shitposting.

>>161039866
>By deciding not to be a Kaioshin apprentice anymore? How is this even an asspull?
Not him, but this is retarded. Since when did a character un-learn a technique? Since when, in Dragon Ball's history, has a technique been tied to a specific role or status?

>>161039532
if we're going bits and pieces from the series to determine strength
>kale was trapped inside a similar bubble shield
>destroyed it
>kale at her absolute strongest was knocked out by jiren like she was nothing
>kale walked right through goku's ssb blast like it was nothing
>kale berserking is ssb tier(if not stronger) and capable of destroying a force field
>kale is stronger than 17
>kale is pitiful next to jiren
17 is my nigga, but he's not top tier this tournament. perhaps the tier just below jiren, goku, toppo and hit

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>>161039920
>because something happens for the first time it makes it bad writing

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90% of /a/ are pissed off because Caulifla was OFFICIALLY voted best girl by 4chan. You guys need to accept this is now reality.

>>161039920
>Since when, in Dragon Ball's history, has a technique been tied to a specific role or status?
Since now.

>>161039736
I'm pretty sure the Hakai and Mastered SSB are foreshadowing for Goku's new form in the current arc. Toyotaro so far had avoided power ups that would clash with Toriyama's outline.

Although, really, Mastered SSB might be part of Toriyama's outline in a way.

Don't forget that in the anime, Goku randomly won a beam struggle against merged zamasu, although his arms were left limp, and afterwards hurt him with a Kaioken kick, forcing him to regenerate into purple Zamasu.

It kind of seems like Toriyam's outline had something like "Goku uses a power up that damages his body, but allows him to match merged Zamasu", and then in the manga we got incomplete Mastered SSB which hurts Goku's body, and in the anime we got that weird Kamehameha and Kaioken.

>>161039920
Yeah, I like the manga, but those abilities should be racial traits. Like Super Saiyan. What good is Zamasu's healing ability if anyone can use them?

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>>161039344
I chuckled

>>161039920
The Dragonballs themselves were tied to the kami position for some reason since they disappeared once Kami merged with Piccolo.

Also sensing God Ki, since Dende can but Piccolo can't anymore even though Kami is part of him and used to be Earth's god.

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>>161039406
Toriyama has beef with Toei, so of course he's gives full support to his puppet bitch

>>161039983
>it's the "what good is the hakai if non-GoDs can use it" headcanon episode again

>>161039957
If it happens with no precedent or explanation... yes?

A technique being tied to a specific status needs a more in-depth explanation than just "you must be an apprentice Kaioshin to learn this and once you're not an apprentice Kaioshin you magically un-learn it." What causes him to not be able to use it anymore? What properties does being a Kaioshin apprentice have that allows him to use the technique in the first place?

Kid Boo learned Kibitoshin's Kai Kai, something we thought was exclusive to him, so the original series very clearly never tied techniques to roles or status. At best, it tied them to races.

>>161039532
>now weaker than Gohan according to writers
Stop with this shit Jobhanfag. 17 is miles stronger than Gohan.

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>>161037894
Don't worry dad, leave el grande padre to me

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>the absolute state of this thread

Mid-afternoon in burgerland, really makes you think

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>>161040074
no one on /a/ can explain this.

>>161038125
>>161038201

>It´s Beerus because it was the original pun.

And Toriyama threw it out the windonw, it´s BEERS, that´s how they write it in japanese media.

>>161039919
I saw a thread about the new special manga chapter in the catalog. Maybe you guys could use it as a manga thread.

>>161040071
Why do retards like this suddenly expect DB to go in-depth into explaining what exactly a character needs in order to utilize a technique? It's like they started with Su... Oh, fuck, it all makes sense now.

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>m-m-m-y tournament was b-b-b-better

>>161039406
>Hit is now nerfed to a level where a SSG tier opponent can beat him
No.
>All the things that people blamed Toyotaro for "doing his own thing" are being brought in the anime
It's not that easy to know what was added or not. There are things which were liked and things which were not. Overall I prefer the anime over the manga.

>>161039866
>massive foreshadowing
>"I can do the Hakai" "that's pretty bad"
I prefer the manga but come on Toyofriend this was pure shit.

>>161036143
Gohan is above Buu Saga Vegito.

>>161040102
Your tears are delicious, Eurotrash.

>>161040034
They weren't tied to the Kami position, they were tied to Namekians, planet Namek didn't have a "God" and they still had Dragon Balls; Dende was confident he could make them too, despite not being a God yet. They disappear when their creator dies and the creator of Earth's Dragon Balls just happened to be Kami.

>>161040062
>He doesn't get it
Only Shinjin are Kaioshin. There are 11 different races of Gods of destruction. Why would Zamasu being promoted to a Supreme Kai from King Kai make him lose a healing ability? And why would it make his fusions permanent?

>>161040111
Toriyama mentioned potential on 17, also it wasn't like 9 years since Cell's death until now?

>>161040034
>Also sensing God Ki, since Dende can but Piccolo can't anymore even though Kami is part of him and used to be Earth's god.

Oracle Fish can sense God Ki. So can Vegeta and Goku. It's not tied to status, it's an ability you can learn.

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>>161040183
the absolute state of Cuckhanpedos

>>161040134
Here it is. >>161027156

>>161040220
Same reason the U10 hakaishin would then be tied to him so that if one of them died the other would also be a goner. Duh.

>>161040158
If you make it a point to say that a character can't use a technique anymore, then you better explain it properly. If you want to avoid explanations, then don't make the character lose the technique for no reason.

>>161040255
Base Goku= Base Gohan so all of the following SSJ Forms should be equal also.

So it's impossible for SSJ2 Goku to Match U. Gohan
Gohan was holding back.

SS Gohan=SS Goku
SS2 Gohan=SS2 Goku

U.Gohan=SSB Goku

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I miss little dude. His chaotic evil style was fun. No bullshit dialogue involving who dick is bigger, just chaos and pain.

>>161040165
I mean it was

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yamcha should have been in this tournament

>>161039919
It was a one time thing

Which one do you guys think is sexier, Pan or Bra?

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>>161040333

>>161040333
How would he perform at the TOP if he understood no killing?

>>161040332
Nice headcanon, Paco.

>>161040362
It needs to be more than a one-time thing. The shitflinging is unbearable.

>>161040255
The threads will be unusable if Gohan gets ringed out before Caulifla.

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>>161040419
>The threads will be unusable if Gohan gets ringed out before Caulifla

Best girl will be the last person standing.

>>161040473
So ugly!

>>161040395
dunno. would also need to explain the point of the tournament, or how to play it. i'm not sure if possible.
>>161040473
I legit hope you faggots fuck off once she gets knocked out.

test cuck test jobhan test caulifachad test finally unbanned test

>>161040419
I would stop watching super at that point.

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>>161040400
Gohan was literally matching and even getting a small edge over Base Goku.... but I refuse to debate with some shit tier insult low level homosexual on a Mongolian finger painting forum.

Time to settle this shit. U7 next dropout will be?

My money is on 17, he'll job to Brianne just to make her look good.

>>161040510
>finally unbanned
Not for long

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>>161040332
Where do you get that base Goku = base Gohan? Where do you get that the multiplier for SSB is the same one for Ultimate? It wouldn't make sense since Ultimate shouldn't be a multiplier, instead it's Gohan at max capacity. Stop your headcanon.

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What are the GoD's favorite foods?

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>>161040523
Same.

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>>161040524
>shit tier insult low level homosexual
You a little bit asspained there, buddy?

>>161040395
He can heal and turn people into chocolate. He would be OP.

>>161040541
Piccolo, Tien or Roshi
Brianne is good but not good enough to knock 17.

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>>161038404
Fuck off, this is cute.
Trunks did it for Gohan and his friends, he want them to meet his world.

This also means future Bulma will meet Vegeta again.

>>161040523
>>161040579
Then I thoroughly hope it happens so we can be rid of you.

>>161040576
Only Beerus and Champa are obsessed with food. That's why they're shit gods. Not all gods are bad because of food. For instance, Sidra was a pussy and didn't want to destroy.

>>161040407
It's the other way around. General threads shouldn't exist.

>>161040566
Ultimate Gohan doesn't have a multiplier. Ultimate Gohan is just on SSB level no matter your headcanon.
>Where do you get that base Goku = base Gohan?
Ep 75
Ep 90

>>161040581
Nah.

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Does Gowasu regret not bringing him back? He would single handedly ensure that U10 is top 3 in the TOP and not the jobbing mess that it is

>>161040586

He's gotta fight the U3 doctor guy first, but she'll look like she could ring him out before getting interrupted.

>>161039920
>Since when did a character un-learn a technique?
Supreme Kai literally said he had healing powers but lost them when he wasn't an apprentice anymore. Why the hell would it be different if Trunks does the same thing?

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>>161040654
>Ultimate Gohan is just on SSB level because I say so
Fuck off, Alejandro. Andele.

>>161040298
Thanks

>>161040656
>top 3
explain? black was not that strong