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What if the Tournament of Power arc is a setup to replace the DBZ and DB cast with a new set of characters?
>All the universes participating in the Tournament right now are merged into one after this arc.
>Dragonball Super continues with Goku, Vegeta, and the strongest fighter (or 2) from each of the other Universes as the main cast.
>Brolyna
>Smugpup
>Hit/Cabba
>Bergamot/Basil
>Tumblrina/Visorgirl
> Someone from U11 Pride Squad
>This means Gohan, Buu and everyone else is completely sidelined for this new cast never to be relevant again for the rest of Super.
>Bulma should be involved in some way or form because she's been there since the very beginning.
Why it could happen:
They effectively replaced and sidelined a lot of the cast in Dragonball when moving to Dragonball Z - Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, and later Trunks / Kid Trunks / Goten became the major players, replacing Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Roshi, Chaotzu and Launch
Pros:
No longer having to care about if Gohan is better off jobbing or doing nothing.
No longer having to feel bad about humans not being involved.
No longer have to create asspull power boosts for characters struggling to keep up.
Potential for character development for Vegeta that doesn't involve him being a family man anymore.
No more power level bullshit "Why is he coming along he's shit tier" discussions because we can safely assume almost everyone will be top tier in some degree.
No longer just the Super Saiyan Show, apart from interactions between Cabba and Vegeta, and Vegeta gets to play team leader
Bergamot becomes the new designated jobber / Yamcha
Cons:
Potentially jumping the shark
New set of characters could be unpopular
There will be at least one furry if not two in the main cast (if you you are a furry you can count this as a pro)
You'd have to give up hope for any of your favorite Dragonball / Dragonball Z characters ever being relevant ever again
Personally I'd be all for a huge sweeping change like this
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>>160943744
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
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no.
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Why can't retards like OP wait for the bump limit?
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>>160943744
That's fucking stupid.
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Anyone else have a terrible day?
I don't even have the energy to shitpost or falseflag tonight... I'm just done
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>>160943820
Many people probably. Threads were slow as fuck earlier today
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This is retarded, so is clearly the plan.
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>>160943820
>Mother diagnosed with lung cancer
>Catch stage 2 pneumonia
>Cant work because of pneumonia and currently losing money
>$90 Gunpla knocked off shelf by furry retard and ruined
Last one, I probably shouldve predicted, but yea, shitty day
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>>160943820
No, because I have a social life.
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First he was stronger than SSBx10 Goku in the Champa arc.
Then he was nerfed to SSB Goku level in the rematch and now he's apparently weaker than SSG Goku.
Top kek I wonder how Hitfags feel about this?
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>>160943906
:thinking:
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reminder Caulifla stinks
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>>160943820
I had a great day!
But I'm tired of shitposting too. The episodes just haven't been as fun and have been boring as fuck since the episode where Kale chimped out. The pride troopers jobbing and U2 being another fodder tier universe have sapped all the fun away from the tournament.
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Reminder that there are 5 Saiyans in the ToP for the SSG ritual
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These are your new main characters. Say something nice about them.
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Where does all of their power levels go when they're in base forms?
Let's say goku is 1 million base form and 50 million super saiyan. Where does the other 49 million power levels go and why can't goku use it without transforming???
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>>160944102
fuck you super isn't canon and freeza died when trunks sliced him in half
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>>160944106
>Where does all of their power levels go when they're in base forms?
Yes.
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>>160944102
freeza is so much better as a rival than vegeta
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Left or right?
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>>160944102
So far the main characters seem to be Goku, 17, 18 and some dykes.
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>>160944102
I'm more than okay with this.
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>>160944191
That's a tough one. I'm leaning right, but I'd also be perfectly fine with left.
51% vs 49% split. They both look good.
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>>160944191
black eyes would be better than both
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>>160944190
That is because Vegeta is no longer the character he used to be. Vegeta used to be an enjoyable character with a great personality, now he is just some family man. I miss old Vegeta, he was fun.
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>>160943744
Seeing as how they made an entirely new studio for Dragon Ball content, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. we barely know anything of their worlds, just imagine a rebooted GT that doesn't suck dick.
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>>160944102
SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
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So... Is Helles a human or what? It would be nice if DBS could confirm that a human is, in fact, a Goddess of Destruction.
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>>160944102
Freeza has nice eyebrows.
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>>160944191
100% Right. The eyes should always be blue/green.
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>>160944301
I find humans being OP to be a boring wish fulfillment. They are way better as side characters and extras.
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>>160944301
Recoome looked more human than her. Maybe because she's ugly, idk
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>>160944102
what the fuck is this
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>>160944191
Neither. Both are terrible new forms.
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Who's going down first: Gohan or Vegeta?
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>>160944301
why does she have a full crotch V while sitting?
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>>160944467
Vegeta probably, although both will likely get KO'd by Jiren at the same time
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Universe 10 must be preserved to protect this smile.
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Could True Golden Frieza hold up against SSBKK Goku?
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>>160944467
Vegeta will be emotional, Gohan will be off-screened
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>>160944353
Dude, fuck you.
The only beings able to do anything being saiyajins is boring shit.
The fact that super is hated right now should tell you that.
A race of humans being SSJ or beyond tier and having their own unique power up would be fucking awesome.
>>160944435
Recent poll put frieza and vegeta ahead of goku in popularity.
They're hoping that by putting goku next to the most popular character they can keep him relevant.
It's not working.
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>>160944353
>>160944422
Well, I mean, we don't need OP humans in the main cast. I just mean it would be cool to know that humans are something more than just pathetic stepping stones for Saiyans in other universes. We don't need to SEE it, per se. It would just be cool if the series handwaved at the possibility of humans being an insanely powerful species in another universe.
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>>160943744
>blue confirmed shit
Its over toyo won
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>>160943820
I know that feel. I can't go on. This is so tiresome. I have to face the fact that my boy Gohan isn't as strong, gifted or competent as His Highness, prince Vegeta. He will probably get ringed out within the next two episodes. I am resigned to Gohan's fate. I will let Vegeta have Jiren.
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>>160943744
Disgusting thread opener filled with Caulicuck delusion. Almost fucking threw up.
Kill yourself you RETARD
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>>160944572
It wasn't a popularity poll, it literally asked fans which character they cheered for most, and they said Freeza.
Freeza confirmed not going anywhere. I'm more than okay with this.
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>>160944572
It wouldn't matter if they made SSJ or beyond Humans, Namakians, Androids, or anything else it would be the same if the writing is still shit.
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>>160944599
>>160944572
Problem with that is that humans only exist in U7 and U6, and in U6 the humans/earthlings destroyed their entire planet via nuclear warfare until Beerus wished them back for his cute bro.
There's no reason to assume that the human race exists in any other universe. We still don't even know where the Yardrat came from as well.
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>>160943820
Why don't you have more terrible days then? It's time for the age of the seriousfags.
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>>160943744
If they're smart, they'll wait to do a new DB series until after Nozawa retires, with Goten and Trunks as the leads. Put them in space/another dimension. You can easily weave in the U6 saiyans from and the furfags. Jiren, Toppo, and Hit in the main cast might have us starting at a power level where there's not much to work with but it's not like they were able to visually display an increase in power for SSB beyond the hair color.
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>all of these low-energy fags
I guess CHADhan bros are very energetic and productive people
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>>160943820
Holy shit GTfag completely wore me out of autism and I can't post anymore
Fill me back up Caulifags,Gohanpedos
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>>160943744
Not gonna happen. You only think that because Dragon Ball Super moves so much faster than Dragon Ball Z (because Z was plagued with filler and moved way slower than it should have). Tons of characters get introduced in Z only to be never seen after getting some basic amount of development.
If there's any characters that are sticking around it's going to be Universe 6. I think what we might see is someone asking the Zenos to allow a team-up towards the end of the tournament allowing two universes to work together for mutual survival.
I'm curious about the U6 Namekians. I mean, in U7 we have:
>Almost all Namekians wiped out in a climate change (100 are said to be on Namek at the beginning of the Namek saga).
>The Nameless Namekian was a dragon-type Namekian who was sent to Earth as a child (to escape said climate change) and lost his memory after a head injury. Over time he became corrupted by Earth's people and eventually split into Kami and Piccolo Daimao.
>After the Namek Saga about 80 Namekians survived in the most optimistic estimates (they wished for Namekians killed by Freiza's men to be revived but the ones killed by Vegeta remained dead).
>At the time Nail is the most powerful Namekian having a power level rivaling Vegetas. Piccolo is also really strong after undergoing training with Kaio-sama. After their fusion Piccolo becomes far stronger than any Namek in existence.
>Later after Piccolo fuses with Kami he becomes one of the most powerful people on the planet (more powerful than SS1 Goku, SS1 Vegeta, and 17 at the time; though SS2 hadn't been achieved yet).
Soooo, the two Namekians fighting for U6 have to be insanely strong by Namekian standards to stand a chance against Piccolo. Either they're also the result of training and merging or U6 Namekians are somehow different (possibly bad dudes). U6 Namek might have also not undergone climate change wiping out the majority of their population.
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>>160944467
>Gets screen time alone with Whis
>not making it within the top 5 of U7
The training will pay off, trust me.tabun
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>run as much as you want botamo, i will NEVER run out of bullets
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>>160944696
>have more terrible days then
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>>160944102
Frieza should turn good at this point
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>>160944722
You'll have to wait in line, boy. Lord Frieza is stealing the show.
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>>160943744
>he sees your impure soul filled with hatred
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>>160944780
>Freeza
>not good already
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>>160944803
Sorry Freezafag but the chad squad already claimed the thread, you can bully Gokufags until he next thread if you feel like it
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>>160944660
That...that's a popularity poll.
>>160944685
>>160944694
I still think that the humans in U6 should have been god tier. Someone has to be cool now that we know that the U6 saiyajins are a bunch of shit tier fucking losers.
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>>160944826
>Frieza just looking at Vegeta with his seductive red eyes
>Vegeta is uncomfortable to be watched by his former boss
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>give zamasu my regards when you reach non-existance
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Say something nice about Gohan's new bitch.
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So have you guys finally accepted that Gohan is going to do great in his episode and that he is on his way to greatness?
You should, because IT IS HAPPENING VERY SOON
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>>160944894
>>160944826
So is Goku a harem protagonist except for strong dudes who like to fight?
>doesn't want a harem of 999 cute waifus
>wants a harem of 999 strong dudes
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>>160944742
We haven't even seen fucking namekians from U7 properly explored and still have some room to work with them.
I don't give a fuck about those random faggots from U6.
Where's my motherfucking superhumans!
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>>160944897
>"You are still 1000 years early to challenge me, Son Gohan!"
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>>160944826
where the fuck is freeza gonna live when they inevitably bring him back as a main character when the saga is over?
capsule corp? Kame house? In a space ship just outside of earth?
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>>160944660
I find that poll interesting. Maybe this result is partly because Frieza is the only one who wants to go against Zeno-sama? Thinking about it, isn't 17 the one at the bottom in that poll? His attitude is the complete opposite of Frieza's.
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>>160943897
Because toei is shit everything you mentioned is filler BS, toyotaro is following AT's story to a T
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>>160944917
Let's see how well he wears his plot armor...
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>>160944916
Say goodbye to your entire universe Cus, GODhan had enough of Gowasu's errors.
Zamasu was a mistake and your universe will pay the price
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Reminder that Caulishits have less than 2 weeks to live.
Episode 104 will be the end of the Caulifag.
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>>160944838
It's not friezafriends fault you choose the wrong hero, Paco. Gohan 's gonna job and Frieza is going with Goku to the finals.
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RoC when?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13671122
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>>160945010
stop that
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>caulicucks so low energy they can't even keep up with the GODhan chads
Come on cucklets step it up
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>hey guys let's draw final form cell
>ok
>should I keep the tail?
>no. remove his deadliest and creepiest weapon.
>sounds great
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>>160945025
no
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>>160945010
Just use the weird Cell X queen from Heroes.
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>DBZ and DB cast
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>>160944773
I didn't mean it in that way, I'm sorry. It's just that enough is enough
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>>160945021
I would like if we could get more info about Frieza's race. Come on, Toriyama. Throw us a bone on his race, already.
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Gohanfags are avatarfagging now.
Fuck em all
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>>160944995
Maybe, you have that trailer where it shows Freeza and Goku fighting against Jiren, who knows... anything can happen
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>>160945057
The fuck is this shit? I just cringed.
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>>160945101
>S-stop posting pictures on 4chan!
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>>160945033
I told you I was done. None of you are worth it.
I had a really bad day. I just want to cry right now.
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>>160945109
>trailer
Heroes isnt exactly the thing to go by for confirming anime shit. if that was the case the U7 MVPS will be the androids, GOku, vegeta, and GOhan
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>>160945101
Prove it.
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>>160945159
Are you trying to shill that shitty website watermark on your image?
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Do you guys think Vegeta will ever wish for immortality or the revival of U7's Saiyans?
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>>160945174
Go cry in a corner you fucking faggot.
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>>160944948
They gonna dump him on Beerus' planet.
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>>160945056
>Toriyama: time to draw boo's final form
>editor: let's make him bigger and scarier
>T: nah, that's too predictable. let's instead make him smaller, dumber, and shaped more like a penis
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>>160945010
Too many spots
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>>160945174
Why? were you cucked hard today and you can't even defend yourself? pathetic, just like Caulifla.fight me faggot, it's boring if no one is opposing me
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https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/filename/%20IMG_1062/
Imagine being this autistic
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>gohancucks have to resort to memes and a transformation that will never come to compete with gokuchads and friezachads
This is so sad.
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>>160944040
id let her sit on my face
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>>160943744
Soon
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PERFECTION
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>>160944780
>Piccolo fought to protect everyone. Reconnected to his Namekian roots. Merged with Nail and Kami.
>Vegeta had a child with Bulma and over time has come to love them. Though he wants to become stronger (to achieve his full Saiyan potential) he has come to relate to Kakarot in that sense.
>Frieza wants to rule. Though he likes testing out his power and being powerful, for the most part it's the ability to rule over others that he craves (not to reach his full potential).
Unless Frieza undergoes some major personality change he will not be turning good any time soon.
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>>160945242
>and a perfect body
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>>160945310
Vegeta is still a piece of shit, Frieza is too. Frieza could return as well.
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>>160945264
The only sad thing (4u) is that Goku and Freeza will NEVER EVER get a form as good as Ultimate Gohan.
>maximum powerup possible
>not a single downside, not even stamina drain
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>>160945281
b but it is what i grew up with a a kid!!!
Faulconer for lyfe!!!!
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Red-emerald is a good combo
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>>160945348
Before faggots show the full power picture. Gohan didn't know how strong he really was. Just like Cell Saga Gohan.
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Now I wonder what would happen if the anons on /dbs/ had a meet up
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>>160945310
Unless of course... the big bad finally breaks Freeza's spirit and Spopovich's him so hard that Goku saving him will bring about some major change.
Freeza's getting character development and I'm more than okay with this.
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>>160945348
While powerful it's not very interesting from a literary perspective. Being in an Ultimate form already means he's basically played out unless he becomes "beyond ultimate" or something retarded which it looks like the writers are going for right now (though he'll be played out all over again once he reaches that).
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Whatever, it's not fun if the caulifags are so depressed they can't even hit back.
Come back into the thread when you can actually entertain us
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>>160945199
>implying
>>160945236
>literally begging for me to kick your ass
maybe later
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>>160945388
It is pretty sweet.
Adds a nice contrast to highlight the eyes.
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>>160944995
>Goku and Frieza
>fighting together for the sake of U7 against Jiren
>Jiren is too strong, they don't have a chance even going 2 vs 1 and Goku's new form
>Goku and Frieza do their last desperate ploy to win:Fusion. Freezoku born.
Would you rike it?
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>>160945207
>Beerus' planet
You mean "Freeza planet".
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>>160945451
>Gohan literally has an elf man unlock his full potential
>jobs to Bubblegum with chunks inside of it
AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>160945451
stop fighting, no one cares today
let's just give up and be depressed
none of this matters
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>>160945450
you still here trying to draw attention? If you had a day that bady, please go away.
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>>160945471
Leave Jiren to me.
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>>160945450
Bring it on caulinigger, I'll destroy you, just like Gohan is going to destroy U10
>>160945451
Always have to use the same picture, when GODhan was barely learning to control his new ultimate power, very sad
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>>160944936
>Goku a harem protagonist except for strong dudes who like to fight
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>>160945410
Cauifags would be yelling about their "goddess."
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>>160943744
Gohan is the real mc and you're a pleb for not realizing it.
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>>160945178
>heroes spoiled SSB days before RoF came out
>spoiled Merged Zamasu
>spoiled Goku vs Goku Black in the Mirai timeline
>spoiled Vegeta vs Cabba and then Hit
there is precedent.
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>>160945532
This is true
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>>160945540
J-just you wait
Frieza will NOT make it to the top 10
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>>160945532
Oh you...
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>>160945410
>>160945410
Some actual "spics". Some lonely office job fellows. Teenagers, and one 5ft tall NYCer with an 18 bodypillow
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>>160945451
>Buucucks eternally seething their char got sidelines AGAIN in a tournament arc
It's no use taking out your anger at superior characters and their fans anon
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>all right dad stop crying, you're embarrasing me, fine you can fight jiren. i guess i'll take on the gods of destruction for fun then, jiren was too weak to play with me
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reminder that cell is beautiful
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FUCK, I can't find Japanese HDTV rips of Dragon Ball Kai for episodes 77-95!
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>160945518
>needing to use the excuse of "learning how to use the new power" when no one else had this supposed handicap
>was so arrogant that he got outsmarted by a retarded pink blob who didn't even know what a fucking hour was
>actually using the "same images" garbage argument when defending gohan
Gohancucks are fucking pathetic
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>NO MORE WARMING UP THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!
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>>160945479
Green looks terrible on him. The purple one is LIT tho.
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>>160945606
Atleast Buufags only get sidelined instead of seeing their character job over and over again. Vegetafags are suffering.
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>>160945557
>>160945588
>an anti and pro Gohan post done within 30 seconds of each other in response to the same post.
/a/ would be dead without us.
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>>160945690
>no one else had this supposed handicap
t. never watched db, dbz or dbs
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Thoughts on the many faces of Goku?
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>>160945690
You're right Gohan really is the best.
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>>160945511
>Episode 108: A new fusion technique! Goku's first kiss is with Frieza?!"
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>>160945735
Even when we are fighting 24/7. We are all the chads of /a/
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>>160945756
Man I love Goku'sfeces
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>>160945756
Shida and Tate a best.
Karasawa and Yashima are suck.
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>>160945756
>uchiyama isn't alive anymore to fuck up gokus face
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how accurate is this shitty facebook meme?
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>>160945804
I wish super properly utilized impact frames and camera vibrations so it could be like this
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>>160945756
I like Naoki and Ken.
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>>160945739
>Goku goes SS
>doesn't need to "learn" how to use the form because he just gets 1000x stronger
>proceeds to use frieza as a mop to clean the grounds of namek and doesn't job
>gotenks learns SS3 as soon as hes born and doesn't need to learn anything
>same goes for Cell and Buu
>gohan gets a new form and jobs right after
>"B-B-BUT HE HAD TO LEARN THE FORM FIRST IT'S DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Pathetic.
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>>160945756
Shimanuki's still around? Damn.
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>>160945843
>piccolo
>yes, she is into your kink
d-daily dose?
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>>160945606
>buu can take a nap while cucks like gohan do his dirty work for him
Lmao.
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>>160945843
>tien
>familyman
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>>160945842
they have kitano to fuck it up
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>>160945843
Kid Buu and Fat Buu made me laugh too hard.
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>>160945898
>gives examples of people that used the form perfectly
>not a single one of the actual ones where people had difficulty using the new forms
Thanks for proving my point
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>>160945843
>goten
>she's into jocks
that makes no fucking sense. The rest are somewhat accurate, but goten is in no way a jock. Yamcha is the only one who has even played a sport
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>>160943744
Probably not, instead that idea will go to Xenoverse 3.
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>>160945910
you JUST NOW realized this after 100+ eps?
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>>160943744
>>160944040
I would crawl through a mile of broken glass just to sniff the fumes from a toilet that caulifa has taken a massive deuce in
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>>160945842
It was supervised by Maeda-Samabut that scene was masaki Sato?
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>>160946002
Yeah. He used to be better.
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>>160945968
So Gohan is a retard who can't even do what 10 year olds can? And this guys is supposed to be a chad? Kill yourself retard. By your logic everyone should have jobbed after getting a new form because they weren't used to it but Gohan is the only one who did.
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>>160945756
based masahiro and hiroyuki
the hiro's we need but don't deserve
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why is everyone upset?
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>>160944941
Human:
>Yamcha
>Krillin
>Muten Roshi
>Maron(?)
Three-Eyed-Person:
>Tenshinhan (possibly human hybrid)
Artificial Ningen:
>17
>18
Namekian:
>Piccolo (Nail, Kami)
Saiyan:
>Goku
>Vegeta
Saiyan-Human:
>Gohan
>Goten
>Trunks
>Pan
>Bulla
Frost demon(?):
>Frieza
I'd like to see more human involvement as well but unless U6 humans discovered a transformation I find it difficult to see how they'd be relevant.
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What's Vegeta's life without Goku?
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>>160946086
wouldn't train as much and would be more of a family man
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>>160946086
A non stop suffering. Vegeta loves his bro (even if he's too tsundere about it)
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>>160946086
Probably not being a warrior anymore, like he said at the end of the Cell saga.
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>>160946086
>tate vegeta
complete and utter trash
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>>160945898
Frieza had to learn to use his final form, also his golden form.
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how did we went from this?
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>>160946086
still freeza's buttslave
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>>160946167
>>160946254
wow nice
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>>160946254
...h-hey...
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>>160946167
To this?
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>>160946254
I said now, Bulma.
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>>160945843
Bulma is a shrew, far moreso than 18.
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>>160943744
>No thot patroller 17
shit tier list senpai
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>>160946216
What would've Frieza do if he actually got his immortality wish in Namek? Or after he destroyed Earth in RoF?
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>>160946231
>>160946254
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>>160946254
>him
get lost
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>>160946316
7/10 made me laugh
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>>160946296
Bulma is hotter than 18
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>>160943744
>Frieza not in the post
You fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw
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>>160946423
you have shit taste, 17 is best waifu
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>>160946423
beaner gohanfag
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>>160946423
Obviously.
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>Toyo vs Toei vs Deviantart
Which's yours?
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>>160945804
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I wonder what new techniques Cabba has in store. Maybe, instead of getting Blue, he mastered SS1 and developed some technique that he can pop off on the fly (like the special beam cannon or kick-a-hoe) that can help him contend with even the likes of SSB Vegito.
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>>160946500
Why is Toei Zamasu buffed
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>>160943744
Is there more arcs planned after this?
I'm curious if they'll do anything with these new characters later on.
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>>160946518
These three better get some techniques at all if they're gonna be in games from now on.
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"You all overlooked him. You said he wasn't a real Saiyan. You said he was only good for Femdom and bullying. You said only the Saiyan girls mattered. It's time for him to strike back.
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>>160946306
Porunga can't grant super immortality like the super dragon can, so he'd probably get shitty watered down "can no longer age" immortality and still get his ass beat by goku and killed by trunks like normal.
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>>160946514
All the faggot had to do was kill Buu while he still had the chance.
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>>160946423
Shrew:
2. a bad-tempered or aggressively assertive woman.
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>>160946590
Maybe Cabba would have been more popular if he was a girl that worshipped his Vegeta-sama.
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>reuses jobgeta vs fat bitch from the opening
>reuses entire transformation sequence for u2
>reuses u2 Egyptian goddess talking at least 6 time
>all done in 20 minutes
how much are these jews saving on animation? is dragon ball super a con?
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>>160946635
Could he even have done that considering a weaker Buu took a spirit bomb?
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>>160946083
Only three races needed to have transformations to become more powerful.
The rest only had to train.
I can see humans having something similar to what roshi did and simply increasing their own power without transforming.
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>>160946653
Maybe Cabba would have been more popular if he wasn't a fucking stick
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>>160943744
>Potentially jumping the shark
oh, they did that a long time ago.
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Guys, when did Piccolo switch to universe 6?
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>>160945511
>Tfw this looks unironically good
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>>160946665
literally every time the omni king breaks out his iPad thing it's the exact same animation, the only thing changing is the faces of the fighters on screen. They don't even bother to reanimate him pointing to a different spot, he presses the exact same square every time he eliminates someone.
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>>160946720
thats his long lost brother
doctor piccolo
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>>160946698
Caulifla is nothing but a stick retard
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>>160946778
>not Flute
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>>160946683
I'm sure a full-power Mystic Kamehameha or some shit would've done the JOB.
>>
>Toriyama: I created SSB so we stop having unecessary transformations.
>Toei/Toyo: HURR DURR UNLOCKED SUPER SAIYAN GOD, SUPER SAIYAN BLUE KAIO KEN, SUPER SAIYAN RAGE, MASTERED SUPER SAIYAN BLUE, LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN
I hope SSLB is the last one.
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>>160946698
But Kale and Cauli are sticks...
>>160946778
Is it too late to request the daily dose?
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>>160946793
a stick with tits retard
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>>160946122
JUST FIGHT ALREADY
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>>160946819
Only kaioken and rage were unnecessary.
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Robots haven't lost many yet.
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>>160946720
The masked fighters from U6 are fucking saiyajins.
Not humans, not arcosian/hit race warriors, or some cool never seen before race.
Fucking bitch ass namekians that look like they won't even be able to carry Piccolo's weighted hat.
Big build up for fucking nothing.
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They haven't lost anyone before this episode? I think just the fat one and the teleporter will last any length.
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>>160946871
That explains why you thirsty perverte like her so much
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>>160946884
their strongest fighter was beaten by barely trying cabba. They're shit
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These two blank spots are interesting. Invisible presences that only Tien can handle?
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>>160947021
That little guy is gonna fuck shit up.
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>>160946884
That fellow on the right looks like the villain from Cybersix.
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>>160947021
I wonder if this is toriyamas que to explain how spirit energy works in dbz, because its not the same as ki, and yamcha is actually badass
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>>160946950
Best team, poor Kakunsa didn't deserve to get knocked, the winged girl on the other hand, I didn't care about her.
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>>160946884
Niggerishi was BTFO by base Cabba. He was their strongest. Compare Goku to Roshi, the gap between Niggerishi and the weaker robots is probably as big. They're complete fodder tier. Same with U10. Murichim was their strongest, and he jobbed to final form frieza, so all the U10 fighters remaining are basically fodder.
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>>160946884
>>160946950
>>160947021
>mfw there are no eliminations offscreen
nice battle royale you've got there
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Universe 10 almost gone, I'm sure they'll be the next to go.
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>>160947085
>This nigga
Thot patroller 17 knocked those tumblr tards back to their safe space
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>>160947021
>>160946950
>>160946884
where did they get all these pictures with their faces on it from?
Did the characters have to all line up and get their pictures taken, or did he stalk them and get photos of them??
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>>160946950
When Goku and Vegeta first mention the Yadrats they say that the Yadrats know all sorts of mystical techniques but that Goku only had time to learn one (instant transmission). I wonder if that's just been forgotten by now though.
>>
How much older do you think Vados is than Whis? Hundreds of years? A few years?
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>>160946981
>>160947086
Universe 3 wanted the smartest warriors, not the strongest. They'll surely have some tricks up their sleeves. However, as this is dragonball, they'll lose by not being strong enough anyhow.
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>>160946590
>Ara? Oi, oi, Kale-chan! That little nerd, Cabbage, is walkin' our halls. Mighty rude, considerin' he hasn't paid the toll yet!
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>>160946653
Maybe Cabba would have been more popular if he was a foot fetishist who worships his Claulifla-sama feet.
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>>160947125
>safe space
The bench is not a safe space though
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>>160947021
>toriyama-sama, these character pages you gave us for the last 2 universe two fighters are just blank sheets of paper
>yeah, they're uh... invisible or something
>how will we show this on-screen?
>I don't know just don't draw anything I guess
>Brilliant, we'll save tons of money on animation
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>>160947021
>Tien, where are they?
>Behind you, Gohan!
>Tch… too easy.
>ez 2 frags
>I knew you could do it, Gohan!
The extent of Tien's usefulness.
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>Implying "SS" is wrong and "SSJ" is correct
>first result is amerifat generic 90s rock shit
>real,correct, result is second
Wow google is run by dubshits
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>>160946884
>>160946981
>>160947247
I am nourished by his suffering.
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>>160947136
Godtube
Zeno can do whatever he wants, I'm sure he can make a picture of all contestants.
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>>160947314
>tvtropes
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>>160947314
>tfw to smart to win
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>>160947348
Yeah, tvtropes. I'm aware of the name of the site. Do you have any other genius observations for me?
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>>160946500
But anon, Toei's Zamasu is a twink before going Bio
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>>160947067
Which techniques use Spirit Energy besides the Tri-Beam and the Genki Dama?
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>>160945843
>Bulma
>18haha well shit
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how strong is he?
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>>160946500
>Deviantart
So that's where that Xenoverse 2 SS4 Zamasu mod came from?
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>>160947417
Turtle Style last resort, the destructo disk, Wolf Fang Fist (Yes it is an energy attack) and some forgotton DB techniques
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>>160947429
Well at least you havegood taste.
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>>160946453
Someone wants you as his trap GF.
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>>160947442
6 quadrillion
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>>160947641
Pf. Only 6? Frieza's already 100.
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>>160943744
Db continuing with new fighters isn't a bad idea, but Unfortunately, they'd have to start over with relatively weak fighters, probably of a new generation.
Power Creep is is one of the reasons the story has trouble advancing at this point. The DB franchise is running out of options to one-up itself, and the characters have too many options for getting out of their situation.
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>>160947442
I couldn't tell you, but it is the BEST power level, I can say that much.
>>
Doujin involving Future Gohan cucking present Gohan when?
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>>160947820
>analyzing a cartoon
cringe
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>>160947665
Donald Trump is only human though, so that's pretty impressive.
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>>160947834
Still a dumb monkey. Kill it like the rest.
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>>160945756
These are all surprisingly on-model.
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>>160947875
Most have shitty shading
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>>160947875
even kitano?
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>>160947874
>IT WAS HER TURN
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>>160947833
>Cringe
Kill yourself.
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>>160946950
yagdrat supposed be knocked out according to gohanfags
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>>160945388
Indeed
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>>160943744
>not liking daddy Vegeta
>>
Is there a solid ep# end point for Super or are they just going until they get bored?
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>>160945756
Shida > Yamamuro >Tsuji >Shimanuki > Karasawa > Tate > Itai > Yashima > Ishikawa > Otsuka > Ide > Kitano
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>>160947961
Apes who haven't bowed to Lord Frieza should be made an example of. Kill them both.
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>God of destruction with highest mortal level, implying that this guy WILL massacre weaker beings if necessary to maintaining the level
>Unfazed by U9's destruction, unlike the other exempt gods of destruction
>Said to look like Shiva (the god of destruction in Hinduism) underneath his luscious ebon fur
>Popo eyes
>Similar Popo-esque short fat stature
>Straight-up brings Popo to mind
What did Toriyama mean by this?
>>
Is everyone ready for Gohan episode this weekend?
Gowasu is going away now and I bet the whole thing in the spoilers about a locket pendant is that the guy Gohan fights from U10 has a family that he's fighting to protect and the main conflict will be about Gohan not being a pussy and knocking him off the arena anyway knowing that it means murdering the guy's family.
How many innocent lives will Gohan claim this weekend? Nobody knows.
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Wasn't SS Rage just Super Saiyan 2, like Vegeta's quake of fury? Other than the blue shit it never looked different from Super Saiyan 2 for Trunks, minus the 5 seconds in the form his eyes disappeared like with Grade 3. Though SS2 doesn't really look different from SS in the anime for Trunks either.
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>>160948084
As long as Gohan is actually fighting and not being a pussy I'm happy
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>>160948034
They plan on going until Goku's VA dies, and she said she could go on for 700 episodes
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>>160948099
Rage Trunks looks substantially different from the anime's SS2 Trunks.
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>>160948099
Isn't SSB a saiyan god essentially fusing the godly ki with a super saiyan form? It needs like really good ki control or something?
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>>160948202
Partially due to the anime not really differentiating between SS2 and SS1 for Trunks, though.
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>>160948202
>>160948099
It's also worth mentioning that there were some slight changes to the appearance and color of Trunks transformation in the Blu-Ray release of the Zamasu arc.
Also, he pacman'd a Genki Dama.
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>>160948202
>>160948099
His form in the show and in the anime are essentially the same in power level but one is in SS1 and the other in SS2 for no reason
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>>160948250
>Also, he pacman'd a Genki Dama.
wakka wakka
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>>160948034
Not really. The most logical place to end it is at the End of Z part from the original manga. However if the series is still making a profit there's no reason that Toei would cut off the gravy train any time soon. They are even working on getting an 'official successor' for Goku's VA organized (in Japan if you don't have an 'official successor approved and trained by the original' ready to replace a VA when they die all the fans get pissy about the replacement as it's considered disrespectful to just replace people after they die or retire without asking first).
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>>160948202
>>160948235
But at the same time Rage looks different enough from Toyo's SS2 Trunks (Rage has Broly-like hair, SS2 actually looks like SS2), that one can't really call it SS2.
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>>160948084
>the main conflict will be about Gohan not being a pussy and knocking him off the arena anyway knowing that it means murdering the guy's family.
more like universe 10 guy lies about having a family and Gohan is too scared to fight him because of his morality and gets the shit beaten out of him, needing to get saved by piccolo/goku/android 17, making his entire character arc pointless.
I'm not saying I want gohan to fail or anything, but this is super we're talking about.
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>Heh, you can;t criticize Super because it is a kids show/Z had flaws too!
>Checkmate Super haters!
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>>160948202
Mycompletely bullshit headcanonexplanation is that it's trying to imperfectly mix SSJ2 and SSJB. You end up with something that's stronger than 2 and 3, but not quite as strong as Blue.
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>>160946981
>their strongest fighter
He is not their strongest fighter.
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>>160948377
Who're you giving your criticisms to? Who's gonna listen?
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>>160948290
>it's disrespectful to replace someone after they're dead
>it's much more respectful to force them to train someone else to take over their job as a reminder that they're going to die soon
japan is weird
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>>160948428
no one
no one
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>>160948378
From what we saw in the anime, Rage Trunks displayed more power than SSB.
I think it's horseshit if he's stronger than them, but that entire arc was fucking retarded.
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>>160948034
they are going too go until they are bored and it has long since become Simpson/family guy tier
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Be honest, gentlemen. Who else would smash this?
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>>160946665
>is dragon ball super a con?
yes
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>>160947404
you're a fag.
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>>160948769
I can't imagine them having more episodes than the original DB/DBZ, but at the same time I can't imagine them stopping any time soon. It will just feel really weird if/when super surpasses DBZ in longevity
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>>160948162
Let's hope she dies soon
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>>160948796
I would fuck an angel just to say I did it and get the benefits of having an angel fuckbuddy to give me super powers and warp reality for me
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wait so there is no new form it's just SSG ?
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K-kiero? I was just joking, honest!
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>>160949034
yep
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>>160949065
kinda lame but more forms wouldn't make sense either so i'll take it
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>>160948800
Original, insightful, and intelligently written. Good for you.
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>>160944722
Theyre probably dehydrated
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There better be a new form kys Toriyama
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>goku and gohan fuse
>incest
>derp eyes and buck teeth
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>>160948099
SSR = SS Berserker
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>>160949214
>new form
Like what, SSGSSGSS/Purple or SSB2?
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>>160949283
SSB and SSG are both fucking jobber forms, it's time for a change.
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>>160949320
What would be your ideal new form then?
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>>160949320
SSG at least managed to look cool losing in BoG. SSB can't even do that
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>>160949353
Whatever just got leaked
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>>160949377
>Looked cool losing
SSG is complete garbage. All it ever did was scratch Beerus. It has never inflicted any real damage onto any enemy. At least SSB has.
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>>160945479
Who made these?
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>>160945388I'm colorblind his suit looks grey. Unless you mean his shoulder/back area
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>>160949435
what.
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>>160949320
>>160949377
Jobber levels of forms from lowest to highest:
SS2 < SSG < SS1 < SSB < SS4 < SS3.
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godhan is tupid! fguck u! super 17 will be canon and hewill win ! ese
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>>160943744
>potentially jumping the shark
That happened back in Z with the Buu arc. What's going on right now is just a garbage fire.
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Cute smol slug demon
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>>160949467
Are you kidding? SSG is even more jobber than Blue. Never dealt any serious damage.
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>>160949467
SSB has jobbed way more than those last 2. It never won a meaningful fight like SS4 and has way more losses than SS3
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>>160949545
Neither has SSG. Whenever a new manga chapter comes out and Toyo decides to use SSG, he always gets blown even though it never ends up doing anything. And in the anime, it doesn't even exist anymore, yet people still blow SSG dick even though they hated the form when it was first revealed.
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>>160945511
Well. What if frieza teaches goku that gold technique
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>>160948202
So fucking lame.....rage trunks.....stupid as fuck toei filler for lil hype fags
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>>160943744
>How to have the ratings drop
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>>160949647
I don't anyone unironically liked rage Trunks
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How do you feel about this panel?
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>>160949715
The face on Goku on the next to last panel.
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>>160949545
>It never won a meaningful fight like SS4
SS4's only meaningful win was against Ice Shenron. SS4 couldn't defeat Rage Shenron. SS4 needed help against Baby, lost to Super 17, got trashed by Omega, etc. Blue has comparatively more wins and draws.
SS3 has literally won one and only one fight. SS3 Goku vs. SS2 Trunks.
>>160949528
SSG's only had one fight, and while losing it was enough to keep Beerus from destroying the Earth.
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>>160946423
that bulma yes
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>>160949767
>SS
>Shenron
>Ice
>Rage
>Omega
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>>160949715
A disgrace to the beauty and perfection that is Zamas.
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>>160949843
Goku. Krillin. Frieza. Vegito.Whiskers the Wondercat.
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>>160949767
The only wins I can think of for SSB are Vegeta against Cabba and Trunks, and those fights were just Vegeta flaunting how much stronger he is than those guys.
It lost to Frieza twice, Hit twice, needed help against Jelly Vegeta, Black multiple times, and I'm sure there's quite a few I'm forgetting.
The only times Goku's won with it is by using Kiaoken on top of it.
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>>160949715
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>>160949944
Bergamo, Frieza after the rewind, tie with Hit 3rd time, tie with Toppo exhibition, Trio de Dangers (3 at once).
Marginally better than SS4's record. Significantly better than SS3's record. Worse than SS and SS2.
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Post 3d fights please. Really liking the choreography
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Daily reminder that Pedros and Josés will carry this show to 300
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>>160950070
300 what, Paco?
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>>160950070
>COMPARTIR
What does this mean, dumb phoneposter?
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>>160950070
Manga sales?
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Can't Supreme Kais teleport away from Zeno before they get erased?
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>>160950104
That I speak spanish
>>160950096
Episodes
>>160950141
Amount of people watching the premier on cartoon network, the first 5 episodes
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>>160949502
Piccolo III when?
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>>160950057
>Bergamo,
Goku still used Kiaoken in that fight
>Frieza after the rewind,
That's a lot of help. If Baby Vegeta doesn't count, then neither should that
>tie with Hit 3rd time,
You're right
>tie with Toppo exhibition,
Fight never finished, and Goku was either about to use Kiaoken or whatever his new form is
>Trio de Dangers (3 at once).
Again, you're right
SSB has lost or tied most of the fights it's been in. SS4 is like 1:3 (2 wins, 1 tie out of 6 fights), and SS3 had one win out of 5 fights.
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>>160950104
Most Americans take Spanish in school, how do you not know the most basic shit?
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>>160944572
Only way Humans have of becoming over powered is with Hybrids. And honestly that's not bad, they bring out the latent power of Saiyan DNA.
>Gohan went super at 11
>Goten went super at 7 with only Chichis training
>Trunks went super at 8 with Vegetas training, though vegeta didn't know he could do it
>Gotenks pulls SSj3 out of nowhere in a few months
>Evidence suggests Pan became a super saiyan while still in the womb (Videls Womb glows Gold while everyone else is still in base, golden aura spreads out from there, her hair turns golden shortly after).
At some point they become more human than Saiyan, so they really claim to be saiyans? The human race of U7 will rise with the brilliance of Bulma and by abusing the genetic combination of Hybrids saiyans.
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>>160944560
No, he was evenly matched with SSB, so if Goku used Kaioken on top of that Frieza wouldn't stand a chance at his current power.
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Here's your new form.
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SSGSS Golden Perfection soon
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>>160950259
I'd argue Kaioken is still part of Blue, but as you just said and as I claimed previously, better than the ratio of SS4 (slightly) and SS3 (significantly).
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>>160950383
Fuck off SSGfags. The new form is not just SSG.
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>>160948063
Everyone should respect his mothefucking pecking order or they'll get dumped?
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>>160950070
who /Mexico/ here?
Aguascalientes checking in
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>>160950259
>>160950057
He tied with Frieza recently too.
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>>160945010
If, in the extremely unlikely circumstance that Cell does return, I guarantee that his new form will be smooth with absolutely no spots to be seen. Spots are too hard to draw and take up too much time.
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>>160950455
>just SSG
Of course it's not just SSG, anon. Of course it's not...
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>>160950276
I'm not an amerifat
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>>160946282
>That mouth
This is the face of a man who REALLY has to take a shit, but is in a public place with no restroom within instant transmission range.
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>>160950070
>This shit is most popular in south america
Jesus.
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>>160950484
PeruArio master race reporting in
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>We will never have a Frieza vs 17 match
>We will never get a 17 vs Piccolo rematch
What a cruel world
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So what is her deal? Is she the youngest angel or something?
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>>160950070
We've known this for a while now. Pedros are the REAL Dragonball fans.
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>>160943820
I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
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So SSG isn't a mistake, Toshio confirmed it's returning
I don't usually get into these arguments, but holy shit do animefags look pathetic right now.
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>>160950642
>post yfw that's every angel's mother
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>>160943888
sry
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>>160950717
Why wouldn't the angels' mother be higher-ranking? Why would she watch over a universe, especially a one like U10 that's not exempt from erasure?
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>>160944190
But he isn't even undefeated against Goku. Hell, he gets killed by him in Super. Or maybe that's your point. They are more equal in combat while Vegeta just can't lose to Goku.
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Will they explain why Goku can use SSG again?
And why he didn't use it for the last 80 episodes
Or will it just be like the manga, where people just go "Oh hey SSG!" and that's it
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>>160950756
Stop it Vegetafag. Goku could waste Vegeta whenever he wanted to. He's confirmed stronger.
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>>160950642
All the angels seem to have different temperaments. They have emotions and naturally some of them have actually grown to like the universes that they've been overseeing.
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>>160950744
Watching over a universe seems like a high rank.
Shaggy is supposed to be a genius and he watches over the biggest shit hole.
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>>160950850
Now that the furfag universe is gone, what will Shaggy do? Just hang out with Grand Priest and do whatever to keep the double brat gods happy?
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>>160950820
And? This is already known. Vados hates Champa and made fun of him because he would get erased. Whis went far enough to deliver Vegeta's baby, and Mojito laughed when his universe got erased. But is she the youngest angel or something? She seems like it.
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Reminder that Kamen Rider
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So after all this time ignoring SSG, the anime is just going to copy the manga and bring it back? What the fuck? I thought he absorbed it!
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>>160950906
Toei can't write for shit, they ignored the fact that SSB had stamina issues and randomly brought that flaw back for this arc
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Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Limit Breaker when?
>>
These threads are so fucking terrible and the sad part is they don't have to be. How fun can it still be making the exact same shitposts with the exact same images thread after thread after thread?
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>>160949152
>>160949065
>>160949034
There is a new form, but he won't use it now. It's basically Super Saiyan Red.
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>>160951009
When Jiren breaks Goku's back to prevent him from tingling.
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>so many jobbohanposts
>check times
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Leave universe 6 to me!
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Sorry when I go full autist I can't control myself
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>>160950906
>copy the manga
They never said SSG had disappeared though. It was assumed Goku was using SSBG when he was abl to fight opponents he should not be able to beat in base, which was in RoF movie
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>>160950778
Based Shueisha's Dragon Ball Room correcting what needed to be done in the anime as well
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>>160951365
Beerus said SS Goku was as strong as SSG Goku.
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>Nigrisshi had some hype
>Jobs
>The Pride Troopers had some hype as a team
>More than half jobbed along with Kahseral
>People thought Dyspo was a joke
>He is very strong
I love Tori.
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>>160951362
>Rose
you know that's just for Shinjins right?
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>>160951362
There are so many things wrong with this that I really have to question whether or not you have autism at all. For one Vegeta became a Super Saiyan through repressed anger and self loathing.
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Would you be mad
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>>160951434
This
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what's the sex like?
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>>160951476
I'm already mad
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>>160943744
My fucking god DB art has gone to shit. Saw it the other day on TV and doesn't even have the charisma of the previous DB series drawings. It looks so cheaply done.
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>>160951481
Dead fish after Spopovich happened.
Could have been good before that
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>>160951491
What if this happened?
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>>160951451
Why do you think it's part of the "divine status" type?
>>160951461
Is that some weird anime filler? Because it's not in the manga.
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>>160951481
Videl getting incredibly feral and letting loose since she acts goodie goodie during the day as a tame mother figure.
Gohan now unlocking Mystic again can keep up all night with her for the wild ride.
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>>160951423
>>160951446
>Based Shueisha's Dragon Ball Room
>I love Tori.
love how people make baseless assumptions for who is responsible for certain things in DBS
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>>160951434
But he didn't say SSG had disappeared and it was the first time he used it.
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>>160951511
>implying that didn't awaken her inner sub
She wants CHADhan to take the lead.
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>>160943744
>Using a wall of text post that I posted before I used a trip at the very beginning of the Tournament of Power
Holy shit what
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>>160951477
What's the point of using SSG then?
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>>160950383
Since when does SSG have spiky hair? You idiots really gotta think sometimes.
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>>160951556
Correcting the anime's mistake
It's why the Toeifags are on suicide watch
The anime fucked up, DB room corrected it, so now they have to do a soft retcon and backpeddle to make sense of what it should have been
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>>160951545
What do you think about SSG returning in the anime?
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>>160951545
You have to go back.
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>>160945433
>accepts legendary supersaiyan
>accepts super saiyan rage from vegeta and trunks
>cant accept ultimate super saiyan from riceboy
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>>160949425
SSG beat Hit in the manga
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>>160951535
Leave Videl's ass to me
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>>160951583
this desu, plus they have more merchandising opportunities by incorporating red hair into their current outfits.
Only thing i wish the anime will follow suit with as well is giving Vegeta red as well.
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>>160951533
So Goku basically can stack two SSG forms... yeah it's fucking retarded. It's like if Goku "absorbed" SS in Namek so he's SS tier in base when he backs to Earth but he can still go SS and become even stronger.
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>>160951614
No it didn't.
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>>160951614
No it didn't.
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>>160951637
Keep reading Pedro.
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>>160951614
No it only rivaled him in power level to the point Hit had to go full out and release his full power.
That is when Goku finally used Blue to channel a higher pl than full powered Hit's time skip.
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>>160951621
>Pukes
Why does Toyo have to keep bringing this form back whenever he can?
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>>160951653
Are you retarded?
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>>160951528
Anon? Toriyama is the one who wrote the plot. And I am not the other anon but Dragon Ball Room is working on the anime since the filler arc with Gohan being an actor. He is the one making baseless assumptions.
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>>160951669
>>Pukes
back to >>>/reddit/
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>>160951680
Ironically Reddit likes SSG.
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>>160951669
Yeah why doesn't Hackytaro just stack multipliers and give us 10x power ups on top of God base forms? xDD
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>>160949425
SSG is to warm up, hold back, pace himself. Goku will go beyond that.
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>>160951669
SSG is pretty nice, I like the aura. It left too early.
It seems to be returning in the anime as well.
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>>160950778
He used it more often in the manga like against Hit
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>>160951702
They already said SSB was the strongest, so why the fuck do they need to bring it back in stupid ways? SSG Goku vs Zamasu was fine. SSG Vegeta toggling SSB to attack when he already countered the stamina drain was retarded.
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>>160951677
>Toriyama is the one who wrote the plot.
He writes basic outlines, Toei and Toyo fill in the rest.
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>>160951622
God dammit it's worse. Do you remember when dumb future Trunks thought that since Goku and Gohan controlled their SS forms like their bases they were able to go SS AGAIN and stack the multiplier twice? It's as stupid
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>>160951677
Toriyama most certainly didn't write any of SSJG appearances past BoG's arc though.
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>>160943744
Because it doesn't fucking matter because Goku will save the day AGAIN and maybe Vegeta can help if he's lucky.
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>>160951737
>so why the fuck do they need to bring it back in stupid ways?
The tournament is about conserving stamina, it's fitting.
>>160951737
>SSG Vegeta toggling SSB to attack when he already countered the stamina drain was retarded.
He only "countered" the stamina drain of becoming Blue. He never got over the channeling cost of holding the Blue form for long durations.
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>>160951737
>why the fuck do they need to bring it back
Read the fucking manga
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>>160951739
He write the outlines but we don't know how detailed they are. Yes Toei and Toyotaro fill the rest but it doesn't change the fact that they are following what he wrote.
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>>160951741
>that pic
Yet somehow Kaioken doesn't work with regular Super Saiyan but works with SSB which has stamina problems.
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>>160944878
Why do you want to self insert so much you fucking loser lmao
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>>160951771
>SSB Vegeta toggling SSB
Yeah, read the manga. Fucking retards over here.
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>>160951778
>but it doesn't change the fact that they are following what he wrote
Yeah it kind of does considering how different they are
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>>160951783
>two negatives make a positive
t-thanks Toei...
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>>160951783
They might just simply say that Ki Control and avoiding Stamina drain are not the same things.
Regular Super Saiyan reached the point of no stamina drain, but not perfect Ki Control, and vice-versa for Blue.
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>>160951656
>>160951637
Guess I'm retarded
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>>160951827
>Ki Control
This meme again when are people going to realize this isn't something exclusive SSB?
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>>160951586
Don't really care at this point, look how much of a hopeful naive fool I was in the opening post of this thread expecting a new cast of characters and a fresh cast without it becoming the super saiyan shit show featuring gohan whining, except the latter was exactly what we got.
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>>160951771
give me a tldr because fuck that
I was honestly so fucking annoyed at goku ang vegeta using ssb every fight so this sounds good to me.
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>>160951872
>give me a tldr because fuck that
tl;dr:
Red is a good stable form to access and hold/channel God Ki.
Blue on the other hand is a volatile but explosive form that has devastating power at the cost of rapid stamina drain (emphasised immensely in the manga)
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>>160951902
Why are you spoon feeding this faggot?
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>>160951927
because he's not autistic
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>>160951802
If you follow both you can see the similarities and even some lines are reused.
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>>160945973
In gt goten was a pussy slayer
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>>160943744
Young and handsome SSG Goku is so gooood.
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>>160949657
Ratings have already dropped horrendously to an all time low and this shit series has followed exactly what the OP which apparently was smugcuck over half a year ago did not want. Too fucking late now.
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>>160951741
Toriyama master of foreshadowing
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>>160950778
>the manga, where people just go "Oh hey SSG!" and that's it
SSG wasn't absorbed in the manga, and is used consistently in every arc so far.
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>>160952080
>SSG wasn't absorbed in the manga
based Toyotaro,
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Why is Goku currently fucking shit in the Tournament of Power? So far, he's either gotten his ass kicked; has been almost eliminated; and/or needed someone else to save he worthless ass. He should be flicking all would be challengers off like nats, but he's got too much of a hard-on for fighting Hit. Honestly, he hasn't proven to anyone - including the audience much less Hit - that he deserves to give him a 1-on-1. Vegeta hasn't faired much better. Androids 17 and 18 have proven themselves far superior and more valuable than either Vegeta or Goku
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>>160952155
goku holding back gives all these new characters a chance to beat him up and show their moves off. if every character got nigrishi'd that would be so lame. also if goku and all the other strong people started flexing their max power, the arc would last only a few episodes
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>>160952177
I thought Whis was supposed to be training them out of their bad habits.
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>>160952155
>18 have proven themselves far superior and more valuable than either Vegeta or Goku
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>>160952177
I rest my case...
>>160952199
Look. I get the plot armor and story telling aspect. But let's face it, they could handle it a little better. He almost looses to bitch brolly wanna-be; can't handle Sailor Moon reject squad; almost gets eliminated by ghetto Colossus. Mean there is plot devices and story telling, but everyone wants a piece of him because he's suppose to be the strongest (which we know he is) but he's not really proving it to anyone and is cringe to watch
>>160952232
When did 18 get eliminated? If so, I'll retract that, but 17 still stands
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>>160952155
Goku and Vegeta still have more knock outs than anyone.
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>>160951365
Lmao Toeishills suddenly saying it makes sense. You people are pathetic.
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>>160951701
They only like it now because the anime is using it. They were shitting on the manga for bringing it back
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>>160952299
Honestly, who have they knocked out in the Tournament of Power much less eliminated? I get it. You don't want to make them too strong, too fast otherwise it over too soon. However, you drag this out to ridiculous lengths, it becomes Frieza/Goku fight on Namek all over again were 5 mins takes 50 episodes - boring! We haven't even GOTTEN to the heavy hitters we know Goku needs to fight.
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>>160952321
I dont visit Reddit but i remember our threads used to make fun of them for going from hating on the manga to becoming rabid manga fans soon as the Toriyama/Toyotaro interview came out and proved how authentic the manga was and shit.
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Release your power
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>>160943744
5 saiyans will give goku the god power up from the sidelines ftw
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>>160952304
Toeishills are now extinct, there is now only the Shueishabro.
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>>160952375
God official Dragon Ball art for the anime sucks.
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>>160951522
>Is that some weird anime filler? Because it's not in the manga.
Uh yes it is.
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Guys what if this is actually happening out there somewhere? How wouldn't we know?
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>>160952367
Nope, they started denying it again and claimed Toyo ignored Toriyama's vision with SSG. They really cried about the ending of the manga Zamasu arc since Trunks didn't have a bullshit powerup
Now they're going to lie and claim SSG returning always made sense to them. Reddit is Toeishill land. There are some mangabros there, but they're outnumbered.
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>>160952455
Then our Universe is probably grossly under-represented, we're fucked.
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>>160952304
>Goku reuses SSG in the anime
>It is somehow a problem
You are the retard here. Find where they said he can't use it anymore.
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>>160952404
Shueisha also suck they didn't save dragon ball super they just made it worse somehow
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>>160952495
Not him, but Goku using SSG in the anime IS stupid because he already mastered the form to the point where he can use the god's ki in his base (i.e. Saiyan Beyond God).
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>>160952543
they started getting credited post episode 75 (as of 2017) and it's much better quality than last year.
The animation and art alone for the Zamasu arc made me want to vomit.
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>>160952554
Just because the animation quality is "Slightly better" they're using much more re-used animation, and the story is even worse and badly written with none of the writers really working with each other to keep the scale consistent.
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>>160951872
Red and Blue are pretty much paired (raw strength wise) but while Red is the most balanced form ever, Blue is like a burst mode which provides a significant increase of power by draining a lot of stamina so you can't use the form all time nor spam the initial burst like nothing.
Goku and Vegeta has been guessing how to defeat this weakness of Blue, Vegeta's tactic is to train to being able to spam the form in quick bursts so he becomes Blue in the exact moment he needs and then he backs to the balanced Red without losing his stamina. Goku's method is to seal SSB's overflowing ki inside his body, preventing the stamina drain like a "full power SSB". Yet, Goku has not been training his method so he can't use this "full power SSB" without injuring his own body in the process (yet)
TL;DR: Pic related
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What is Shueisha exactly? I thought it was just an effort to collaborate between all the different ongoing Dragon Ball projects.
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>>160952570
as much as dragonball quality is a glorious meme, if they keep making gudfites like [thot patroller 17 curbsmashing kakunsa], I think I dont mind
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>>160952585
Shueisha is the publishing company that holds the rights to the Dragon Ball franchise.
The Dragon Ball Room is the new editorial office that handles all things DB related including the anime that's animated by Toei.
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>>160952177
>that Goku fucking impaled by Black without blood, not even scratches
I hate Toei
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>>160952543
They can't save the shitfest that is the anime, they should just put the manga in Shonen Jump and make money that way.
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>>160952657
I think Toyotaro needs more than a week to pump out content. Especially since they need time to review with Toriyama for revisions.
When Toriyama was winging in the past he never slept.
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>>160952681
Toyotaro probably works on particularly hype episodes (Though I think Thot patroller 17 was all toriyama)
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>>160945756
Kitano looks very DB esque
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>>160952636
This is not Toei's fault. They are forbidden to show bloody scenes.
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They could've had freeza in there and still kept buu what's up with that
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>>160952636
That fight was so damn awesome.
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>>160946683
>Could he even have done that considering a weaker Buu took a spirit bomb?
Goku mentioned that he could've taken down Kid Buu had he not had his stamina drained during the fight due to his living body.
REMEMBER THAT THE SPIRIT BOMB DOESN'T TAKE ENERGY FROM NORMAL KI BUT YOUR LIFE FORCE!
>>160950070
>Daily reminder that Pedros and Josés will carry this show to 300
Are people delusional enough to assume that any non-Japanese country 'carries' an anime? Whether it's a success or not in countries outside of Japan is moot, what matters if its a success in Japan, that's the only thing that Toei and it's sponsors that help fund the show (Bandai) care about. If it does well outside then that's just more gravy.
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