Re:Creators

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I can't wait to see Altair in the PV! So much hype!

>>160903151
Aoki is laughing right now

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I'm hoping to see shark

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Rooting for Alice

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10 minutes for Altair

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10 MINUTES

Charon in PV when?!

>>160905967
Selesia looks much younger in the manga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK-X7rzHKhk

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Altair on PV!

MIRROR IT YOU FAGS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK-X7rzHKhk

>>160906316
Altair vs the world
I wonder where the fuck is the rest of her team?

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ALTAIR IN THE PV

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>>160906319
OH SHIT I'M FEELING IT

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>>160906319
>Altair vs Gigas, Chevrolet and TANKS
I don't believe this
This must be some trick

HIME IN THE PV HIME IN THE PV OMG

>>160906319
I don't think sword barrage work really well against mecha

>>160906490
Can't she just cube them like in ep 1?

>>160906490
Altair swords seem to be pretty much unstoppable though, they'll pierce through anything and block everything. The mecha will stop working when it has enough holes.
>>160906549
They probably have some anti-holopsicon measures, or Altair still need them.

>>160906490
Doesn't look like Gigas hyper beam worked too well against Altair.

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>>160906319
>easily blocks Gigas Machina's beam
HOW DO WE STOP HER?

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>>160906319
Already?

>>160906319
Doesn't seem like Charon will meet Selesia this episode

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Reminder that there will be at least 15 minutes of Meteora talking

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>>160906684
He is waiting outside of the bird cage, so he will appear only in the second part of the episode since Altair will need 1 minute to break it and Meteora will need 10 minutes to explain the situation.

>>160906549
no because MUH BIRD CAGE

unless she goes all out

>>160906684
Nobody else seems to be around

>>160906319
Altair looks relaxed as fuck
No need for Holopscion yet

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I love seeing a small human fighting giant mecha. That shit is cool.

>>160906549
She shouldn't be able to cube things in real world so easily

>>160906653
Didn't expect them to join in so soon

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At least 5 animators died while working on Hime's hair in this scene

>>160907894
Shall not be in vain

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>>160907894
The anime is almost over so it doesn't matter as much. Which is why she can now appear. They can hire more while the studio is switching to their new project.

Shittyora
Sluttyora
Meltyora
Dickora
Ora Ora Ora, crappy Meteora

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Reminder that now you can get your own himepack

https://www.aniplexplus.com/itemdqyjydzk

>>160908204
This is way too cute

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What did they mean by this?

>>160908327
Who is the creator?

>>160908350
Aoki? Hiroe?

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>>160908327
Meteora is becoming a creator
>thanks for the powerups, nerds

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>>160908390
>>160908350
>No! This can't be happening! I'm the Creator here!

>>160906319
Is Gigas ever going to get its chance to shine?

>>160908432
when its theme plays

you know it has to be good moment if they have been saving it for so long

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>>160908422
>>160908390
>With the power of Holopsicon, I can create a new world

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Why is Sota such a garbage human being?

>>160908327
>世界の屋根を撃つ雨のリズム

Love how the meaning of the Japanese & English titles are always so completely different.

>>160906319
Ok, I'm hyped

>>160908486
so you can relate

>>160908489
Song references

>>160906319
>Just soaks up notDemonbane's attack like nothing
There is no beating Altair on the field is it

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>>160908586
Well good. She should win anyways.

>>160908656
Murderer.

>>160908524
I relate more to the Not Jojo character.

>>160908486
He's /a/ incarnate

>>160908536
If only the core plot had received just a fraction as much effort as was expended on all the ancillary meta stuff.

>>160908670
murder only counts if it's human, Mamika wasn't human, so she isn't a murderer

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>>160908656
Not so fast

>>160908656
t. Blitz Talker

>>160906319

NERF ALTAIR

>>160908779
You just want to infect Altair with the yuri so you can have her to yourself.

>>160903042
How much money did Aniplex waste on this turd? Budget-wise not a lot because the animation is shit and talking heads gallore but what about buying the Newtype polls? Or all the merchandising.

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>>160908779
Alice needs to defeat Altair and take her in as her woman

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>>160906621
Alice will convince her that there is a better thing to do other than destorying this world.Like,rough yuri sex.

>>160908901
600 yen to 800

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>>160908901
don't forget the 2 mangos

>>160906653
How does ECF work with them involved? Is it already foiled?

>>160908930
>>160908960
Stahp it. I don't accept, you just want her for yourself. Crazy anons

>>160909039
Everyone should want a piece of that omnipotent hat

>>160906319
WHERE THE FUCK IS CHARON

>>160909064
I want her for myself, she's everything I wanted all my life
>Military uniform
>A princess
>Cool sabers
>God powers
Man I absolutely want a piece of that omnipotent hat.

>>160909119
Probably floating deathly so in an Aquarium, get it? No, ok, I'll get myself out.

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Reminder that spinoff chapter 3 is out

http://imgur.com/a/3IUQT

>>160908960
This is disgustingly cute and I demand more.

>>160909214
No.

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Is it finally happening? Will she finally get more than 2 minutes of screentime per episode?

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>>160909195
Goddamn, that's an impressive PLOT.

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>>160909250
yes

>>160909278
There's already more hime than last ep

>>160909299
>3DPD

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>>160909214

>>160909318
"The greatest enemy mankind has to face are not ourselves, not aliens, not warmachines but our dicks and pussies"
-anon

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>>160909214

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>>160909195
I can't believe the titty monster is fucking dead

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>>160909558
I love her faces

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stop it
stop it right now

>>160909658
Too late

>>160908817
I don't even know if he wants her to win

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>>160909658
I can't wait for Mamika to be alive again as a bully-counter for Aliceteria's betrayal.

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>>160909600
I love her softness

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>>160909214
It's already over, there is only one princess standing now.

>>160910303
I wonder if she has anything to do with Souta's creation. That would make a lot of sense

>>160910745
She is probably Meteora's trump card, which means it will look hopeful at some point and then lose before Souta's creation becomes the last hope and the miracle.

>>160903042
This must be the most uninteresting anime ever made if compared to the possibilities of the premise.

>>160910835
Tying those two ideas around Hikayu sounds really logical to me, they really didn't establish how they can make another creation appear so far

>>160910949
Sakurada Reset is airing right now.

>>160910303
What the hell she'll even do during all the fighting?

>>160911197
She will increase the viewership to the max with super fanservice powers.

>>160906319
>giant robot
>all it ever does is shoot a laser beam

ok

>>160908327
>At last we really were the creators all along.

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why didn't they just make the mango before the anime?

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>>160906319
Vogelchevalier looks so tiny.

>>160906319

I don't think Yuuya survived Hime's sword barrage. Press F to pay respects.

>>160911733
rip he will be remembered fondly

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>>160908701
This explains alot then.

>>160911197
Nanoha it up. She's getting an official fandisk in-universe, remember?

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>>160906319
If they can make the mop go for 6 episodes, this anime may just pull itself out of the shitpile it placed itself in.

>>160912034
Yeah, that sounds actually good, not gonna happen because Garbage is being shilled to the max.

>>160911720
>"Don't talk to me or my son ever again"

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>>160912183
stay mad, garbageanon

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When they will release the artbook?

>>160912961
at comiket

>>160903042

Are Elevens actually watching this show in decent numbers?

>>160911720

Vogelchevalier looks ridiculous. Why did they make it so small?

>>160913260
No

>>160913412
better question is: why did they make gigas makina so huge?

Ep 17 break down

>Our heroes will be over confident since they planned so hard and got power boosts
>Underestimated that antagonists got
powerups
>drama
>Our heroes start winning
>Shark comes out of no where to fuck everything up because they forgot to plan for her even though she is clearly the most dangerous cuz of the murders
>End of episode

>>160912811
I don't get why aniplex continues to push Meteora after Himegimi was so well received in the first weeks and got so much fanart. Shark, Alice and Selesia are all more popular too, but they push Meteora in magazines. I doubt the illustrations in this book were commissioned more than 4 months ago.

>>160913260
Yes
T/M crowd strongly dislike it for some reason

>>160913745
>I doubt the illustrations in this book were commissioned more than 4 months ago
They probably were though. Publishing is expensive if you make an order for large quantities to be delivered in a short time.

>>160911720
17 meters vs 55

>>160913600
chicks dig giant robots

>>160913600
Gigas Makina is 55m tall. Vogelchevalier is 17m tall. So they're about the right size in relation to each other. But the problem is they're both about half the size they should be. This is supposed to be Ginza, where the street is about 35m wide including sidewalks.

>>160913745
That one is Hiroe, he likes meteora a lot, after Altair appearently

>>160913886
Gigas is a little more than 3 vogelchevaliers high and the street is about 6,7 vogelchevaliers wide, shoulder to shoulder, which means the mech is around 5,6 meters wide. It sounds accurate to me but the fact that Gigas is more than 4 times as wide as Vogelchevalier is makes it look like an absolute monster in comparison

>>160913649
Nah.

Who thought attacking Altair with tanks was a good idea? Doesn't it make her the underdog against the world?

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Besteora

>>160914146
Since it's episode 17, maybe that's how this battle end up.

>>160912961
2 days

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>>160906319
Those swords must be made of something special, They completely trashed the avenue

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>>160911733
He made it out

>>160914146
Godzilla vibes. Wonder if she will address the crowd considering she is aware of the festival

>>160913649
>>Shark comes out of no where to fuck everything up
It is hilarious how they let her loose for approximately 6 months killing people and never even consider the possibility of her interfering, knowing exactly how potentially dangerous her power is.

>>160914714
We don't know if she killed anyone at all

>>160914714
We don't know if she has been killing more people.
Last time we saw her she seemed more interested on chilling than killing

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>>160914751
She would never

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Fluffyeora

Was last weeks episode a special again? Was this planned?

>>160915031
Yes.

>>160915031
Yes and Yes

>>160911608
It's more enjoyable like this

>>160906319
Never thought Altair in the PV would worsen the wait, this is gonna be a long week

>>160914371
Would you care to point it out for me? I can't seemto see him.

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>>160915842
He's almost 8 times shorter than the already tiny vogelchevalier so it's a little hard to spot

>>160915895
Oh ok, I thought that the thing you encircled was just a debris or something, thankd anyway. It would really be bad for him if he hadn't made it out.

>>160916238
Bit anticliactic

>Selesia
Hey faggots. Would you accept if Selesia didn't return to her original world and just decided to live her life here on the real world.

>>160916453
Don't think any of them should go back, they shouldn't give away their free will

>>160916453
But someone have to look after her world once Charon leaves with Alice

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>>160916453
Here's a pic from pixiv for reference. Forgot to upload it firstly sorry.

>>160916485
You're right. Yeah, and to keep everything under control, don't worry, I'm more than willing to take care of himegimi for the world.

>>160916453
She doesn't have much screen time to justify herself to stay, unlike that garbage. Though I'm okay if she wants to stay or leave as long she is not together with the garbage.

>>160916547
Charon is for Altair

>>160916555
>what is anatomy

>>160916582
Yeah, I hope garbage gets imprisoned back to her eternal library again or worse after the final battle is done. But then again, she's hiroe's waifu, that's why she gets too much screentime.

>>160916645
>eternal library
Where did this come from

>>160916629
Gomenasai senpai. But it's not my work. I picked it up from pixiv.

>>160916660
It's just my wording, isn't she a librarian from a video game? Basically if she gets back there, she'd be back in her life as an NPC again.

>>160916699
It's actually a pretty legitimate reason for evilteora if it works that way

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>>160916629
>Anatomy?
Ask Sota about it.

>>160916762
It's basically legitimate for me too, to think that evilteora would be the final boss and the real big bad.

>>160913835
>>160911720
>5'10 vs 6'0

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>>160916620
He doesn't look very happy with Altair

>>160916620
Altair is for me, please because Altair is love, Altair is life and altair is for Hugs and Headpats and kisses. Somebody end me....

>>160917044
Yuya should hug Meteora tight every time she tries to infodump

>>160906319
>8sawOGRE6
hell yeah, second favorite track from the ost

>>160917893
>tfw shes gonna get like 5 min of screentime and then die
It didn't have to be like this

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>>160918172
Cute

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After 3 weeks of blueballing I can't wait for the new episode
Give it to me, give it now!

First PV pic when? Maybe it can confirm the others like Charon.

>>160920653
Tomorrow morning

Selesia is incredibly sexy

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>>160912811
The "garbage" guy will forever stalk the re:creator threads. Such is his rage. Such is his fury. Such is his autistic anorisms.

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https://twitter.com/tatsdesign/status/895307056017661952
Oh look, it's that girl that sometimes appears

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>>160921176
Damn right. Here you go. Fap the fuck away ^^

>>160922626
And garbagefags will always post that garbage in Recreators thread. Your point?

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>>160922687

>>160922687
I am ready for 20 minutes of Altair

>>160922873
It's just the original manuscript by Hiroe. Just because Altair and Selesia are on the covers, don't forget that NAKED has more of that garbage than Aoki's anime version.

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>>160922687
I want her to step on me.

>>160903042
I want to have my ass licked by Meteora

>>160922687
>>160922870
>Re:CREATORS NAKED
>Characters appear naked
kek'd

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>>160913412
To show that mechs in different shows aren't a universal size. It would have been ridiculous to have two completely different properties have the same sized mechs.

>>160906688
15? More like 20. We've got to save the budget after we wasted so much on that 30 second action scene!

>>160922687
>>160922870
I need more NAKED girls.

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>>160922687
Hiroe's Altair is always serious while Aoki one is always smug. If this is intentional Aoki probably made the right decision.

>>160903042
Good shit

>>160922991
I was talking about the next episode

>>160926438
I like the condescending look that Hiroe draws her with too though.

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>>160926929
I'm still waiting for that expression.

>>160927689
It will happen once Meteora is revealed to be evil and Altair was the good person afterall.

>>160922687
>>160922870
Does this contain naked illustrations of Altair by Hiroe?

>>160922687
What's her size anyway

>>160906319
>Garbage in the first frame
How do they keep getting away with it?

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>>160928369
Probably between Meteora and Mamika in height. And between Meteora and Hikayu in breasts.

>>160928532
What's with the golden magic circle anyway

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>>160903042
If the premise of the show works, then wouldn't Hime be stopped at the last minute by a religious figure like Buddha or (in Shinto Japan) Miyazaki or something?

>>160928725
Popularity doesn't matter in the characters power level

>>160908204
>a backpack you can sit on

Yamafags must be stopped.

>>160903042
Does Selesia enjoy getting ice cream on her hair?

What happened to episode 17?

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>>160929515
Third special

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What's his deal?

>>160929961
He must avenge his imouto. I wonder if he would also target his creator though, the ultimate mastermind of the crime.

>>160930671
He seemed like he had no idea about his creator

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>>160930711
Altair should have explained it well.

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>>160906653
>>160907789
>>160909038

Those must have been created by Meteora

>>160929909
They're so kawaii.

>>160922687
Is that Suigintou?

Meteora is the CREATOR.

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>>160931019
Cute shark

>>160932515
It pretty much can only be Altair bragging or revealing she is Setsuna or another Matsubara pep talk with Selesia already jobbing again.

>>160932697
I hope Altair appears on the big screen at the stadium and says that

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>>160932926
And then shots of otaku cheering while watching the TV and Meteora troubled by her popularity.

>>160934482
A work of art.

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>>160906319

Type 10!

Type 10!

Type FUCKING 10!

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I wouldn't fuck with this woman

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>>160937741
That's what you get when you shove garbage down the throat.

>>160936149
I would fuck that woman.

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>You will never create a girl as perfect as Alice
>She will never become real
>She will never princess carry you

>>160906319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Daor1LQgsJ4

>>160929304

>>160934482
What a fucking nightmare. Oh god. What person in their right mind would waste time on this.

preview image when?

>>160944037
around 22 hours

>>160944096
8 actually

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one of these things is not like the others

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>>160934482
Holy crap they look like scary titans or something. Is this vietnamese art or north korean art?

>>160946128
Vogelchevalier looking big there.

>>160934482
>Tumblr
>Deviantart
Neck yourself fag or at least spoiled that shit

>>160946128
who will job first?

>>160946278
but that's clearly from pixiv you fucking retard

>>160906549
In ep13 or something, where Selesia gets that temporary upgrade, Altair notes that further abusing reality might cause *her* to be thrown out of the real world. She's probably avoiding using the full power of the Holopsicon for that reason. Plus the bird cage, but that's a separate matter.

>>160946324
Yuya, then Selesia, Then Rui
Hikayu will probably freak out at first but then save everyone

>>160946324
Yuya, then Rui then Meteora and Selesia will save the day

>>160946818
Nope. Meteora will reveal herself to be evil and betray the others.

>>160947143
I don't think anyone but Magane will be evil. Altair will for some reason reveal she is Setsuna, and since she is too strong to be taken by normal means they'll formulate a new plan together with Souta to restrain Altair and reason with her Setsuna side.

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>>160903042

What if the characters from Re:Creators were pulled out of Re:creators and into the real world?

>>160946235
For you

>>160947704
>Season 2
>it's live action Re:Re:Creators

>>160947751

But would anything happen or would they completely lose their drive? Is there a point where even the friendlies side with Soldier Girl? What if the characters that made it were all the creators?

Does it just become a SoL?

>>160908204
im buyin

>>160906319
Her defeat will be bullshit.

Hopefully Altair find salvation for herself in the end.

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>>160948835
She will find salvation not only for herself and Setsuna but to all gods of pleasure.

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>>160948835
>>160948893
Altair murdered an innocent child. She deserves no mercy

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Shark will leave this unscathed and enjoying her life off the radar

>>160949041
>I'm here to stop you, nerd. What are you going to do about it, stab me?

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>>160949041
>innocent

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>>160949124
>>160949255
>actually trying to defend the cold-blooded murderer
All she could have done was tell Mamika to fuck off, but she went right for murder. The only thing Altair deserves is the most humiliating bad end possible.

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>>160949417
>cold-blooded murderer
you mean hot-blooded murderer. Cold blooded would be a certain knight that make pacts and guarantees the safety of serial killers.

>>160949255
>Mamika
>Not innocent
Her dying wish was Alice to save Altair

>>160949417
Altair deserves the best end. Everyone else can die or fuck off back to their stories.

>>160949417
What was Mamika's Plan anyway? What did she expect? She was dumb and that got her killed, Altair deserves the best ending here, I'm not saying that she should successfully destroy the world. I'm saying that she should get redemption and get a happy ending/life.

>>160949417
Murder only counts if she was human. The only ones that were legally considered humans were Garbage, Selesia, Rui, Yuuya and now Hikayu when they meet with government-chan. Magucal girls deserves to die anyway.

Is the pink lesbian back yet or is she dead for good?

>>160949529
Mamika was programmed to be a saint, it fucking sucks when you think about it

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>>160949910
>implying that Mamika deserved to die because she couldn't predict that Altair is an insane autist that kills people at the slightest provocation

>>160950014
>smiling
So what are you telling me? That she never actually died?

>>160950047
You should be wary of people who intend to and are capable of destroying the world, don't you?

>>160950047
>implying that Altair should have just given up because this special child doesn't understand that the world doesn't work like her cartoon for kids

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>>160950048

Charon?

>>160950310
I have a feeling he might not appear in this episode

>>160950047
I'm not implying that she deserved to die. It could've ended well you know? But it didn't, because Mamika thought that like in the world where she came from, we could just talk things out, but that's not the case in this world. Mamika already figured out that Altair was planning something really "bad". She should have exercised extreme caution. And as for Altair's ending, she's just another victim here, of the world's societal norms. I understand her sentiment to the point that I want her to be redeemed and have a really really good and happy ending, not to the point where I support her to destroy the world.

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>>160950190

Uhm. Excuse me good sirs, can anyone please provide me the link of the shows schedule again, thank you. I lost it like 20 years ago.

>>160950471
http://cal.syoboi.jp/tid/4528/time?Filter=128&Filter2=All

How could Mamika and Altair's meeting go differently?

>>160950540
Thank you, have a wonderful day whoever you are kind anon.

>>160950680
>Mamika doesn't meet Souta
>Doesn't say something stupid like she will save Setsuna's soul
>Lives even if she opposes Altair since she didn't kill any of those

>>160950680
If she didn't say Setsuna she would still be alive

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>>160950680
If she didn't say something stupid. No, A lot of things stupid. It could have been like this. I like this ship.

>>160950750
Souta not warning Mamika about the dangers of trying to convince Altair was a major oversight on his part. It seems like he laid down the facts but didn't provide any ideas when it comes to how to deal with the situation. He should've been the one to be aware of Mamika's modus operandi and the dangers of it more than herself. It probably came down to him not seeing the bridge fight, since she demonstrated how she was against any violence.

I want porn. Porn with Selesia.

>>160950969
Souta shouldn't know anything about Altair in the first place. He was avoiding Setsuna during all her creation completely unaware of her feelings, and only watched her video for the first time a couple days before. He was wrong that she hated him and was influenced by Meteora's explanation that she wants to destroy the world (even if true).

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>>160951094
What about recursive porn with Selesia?

>>160951154
At least he knew she would swing her sword around incessantly if it meant a fight I think that other guess about her against the world was pretty spot on considering her words and situation

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Souta is going to be the true final boss, right?
He was just playing the innocent, didn't do kid, so he could have Altair undo the world and so he could become a true god and the Re:Creator of the world?

>>160934883
They could take down Blitz and Syo, right?

>>160951930
Blitz and Syo are too mobile for them, I think. And who knows what over the top power Bayard has.

pv pic in 1-2 hours, who will be on it?

>>160952902
Kikuchihara and/or Meteora.

>>160952902
Hopefully Meteora

>>160952902
Marine

>>160911720
Needs a church for scale.

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>@ECFes_official

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>>160954185
Still protected.

>>160954185
does it mean that they'll turn one of those into an actual show?

>>160954364
Why would you think that?

Is this going to be one of those thursdays

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>when you infocum but she keeps talking

>>160955571
She's not gonna holopsicon vogelwhatever?

>>160955571
How can they defeat Altair?
She is face tanking everything and spam sword barrage

>>160955571
>Selesia will get dunked again

>>160955580
>wait 16 episodes for Vogelchevalier to come back
>Altair immediately takes it away again
It'd be hilarious and sad at the same time.

>>160955571
I can't wait for 20 minutes of Altair smacking the shit out of the "good" guys.

>>160955836
Aliceteria is their only hope, the rest of gov team are jobbers

I can see it now
>Team Govt keeps jobbing to Altair
>Meteora and her fuckbuddy remind us of the bird cage plan
>Blitz dies of a heart attack as soon as he appears
>Charon just stands there catatonic
>Syo and Yuya just yell each other's names for 20 minutes
>Soda asspulls something retarded and the audience loves it

>>160948835
>>160948893
>>160949041
Killing a child, one summoned by her no less, and firing the first shot at that, kind of makes salvation go off the table. She's also responsible for the murders Magane committed, which might be several dozen by the time of the bird cage event.

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Friendly reminder:

Selesia isn't weak.
Aliceteria isn't dumb.

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>>160956980
Altair is cute!

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>>160957121
Yes!

>>160955571

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Selesia already tried this attack in episode 1 and failed.

>>160956708
You say that as if Altair was an adult killing a child, not a child with a weapon killing another child around her age during a fit caused by a deep trauma. And Altair clearly can't choose who to bring, so her only responsibility is not stopping Magane when she could, the same as Alice.

>>160957727
There's such a thing as trying someone as an adult. Beside, Altair was the one with great familiarity of Mamika's character and series, and considering she browses Nico Nico in her head to see and get her new powers, she has to have seen her creator's name a lot already.

She used lethal force, continuous lethal force at that, against a child younger than her (if she's not just a womanlet in tall heels), who displayed no intent to actually kill or cripple her. She's past the point of no return, especially since she doesn't seem to give a shit about anything. Add in her goal of destroying the entire world just because of a few internet trolls, bringing people into the world, telling them their existence is fictional, and having them stick around to die in her same plan anyway, and her general character info about wanting to destroy the world even in her own "setting", and Altair's actually a cunt.

> Altair was the one with great familiarity of Mamika's character and series
>browses Nico Nico in her head
Why all this fanfiction? And Mamika is 14, Altair is at worst 16 (if they go for Setsuna's age) but likely younger than that. There is no point everyone in the series calling her a kid, brat or little girl I must protect if she is a womanlet.

>>160958459
Sorry, ended up not giving your (you).
>>160958353
>she doesn't seem to give a shit about anything
She wouldn't be manipulating the laws of the universe if she didn't give a shit about anything. And not only she is legally incapable as a minor, she clearly wasn't in right mind then.

>>160958537
She doesn't care about anything other than her goal of destroying the world, being a general aloof asshole to everyone, including her fellow creations. Even her main goal has been neglected, seeing as how she sat on her ass doing nothing for literally six months, a baffling move that lacks any of the supposed "not in a right mind" rage she had when she was confronted by Mamika.

She was quite sane and aware of herself when she murdered a child, and her entire goal is the disproportionate murder of everyone in existence, along with creations she brought into existence to suffer knowing they're fake then be used as pawns to cause their own murder. There's nothing really likeable left about her, and certainly not anything redeemable.

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>>160958801
It seems you're going to be mad when she is inevitably saved. All that build up on her past wasn't for her to be defeated in combat and that's it.

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>>160955571
>Altair singlehandedly dunks on everyone
>Charon, Syo, Blitz even Alice nowhere to be seen
>Army opens up, which should completely oppose ECF in principle
What the fuck is going on anymore

I think there is a parallel between Setsuna and the creations, like when the way everyone involved thought she was a fraud changed the reality around her, what people think, the impression changes the reality for the characters themselves. Maybe I'm overthinking it

>>160959382
The tanks are probably Meteora's summons like the jets.