Why don't people like battle shounen anymore? Remember back

>>160614543
>Why don't people like battle shounen anymore?
I'm no longer fifteen and new
> Remember back in the days when anime fans everywhere follow our adventures as we overcome many exciting challenges
>our
>we
Are you a battle shounen character? How did you get out to post on 4chan?

>What happened to those days?
Again, I stopped being fifteen and new. Tastes change, get over it.

battle shounen is fucking boring
so is magical high school battle harem garbage
isekai is overstaying it's welcome too
this whole season is fucking garbage

>>160614543
Boku no hero academia is pretty popular here though.

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>>160614543
Get over it. Anime is all about fapping to lolis now.

>>160614604
>>160614749

yeah, i remember a few years back when i was in my anti shounen phase too, i guess you gotta try to fit in somehow
dont worry though, it'll end soon enough

>>160614611
Oh, isekai is staying so it is welcome too. Wow you're such a genius.

>>160614805
Yeah, some people just try too hard to be mature sometimes and irrationally hate anything that's not targeted at adults.

Because it's all too formulaic. I'm find with light hearted bullshit it's just I've seen most of it before.

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>>160614881
>not liking battle shounen means you hate anything not targeted at adults

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>>160614604
>I stopped being fifteen and then I became an overweight 30 year old that lives in my mom's basement and spends the day making condescending posts in an indonesian tapestry forum

>>160614543
you must be over 18 to browse 4chan

>>160614982
Everyone knows grown men fap to moe shows.

>>160615056
Did you respond to the wrong person?

>>160615082
Well, it's okay for adults to watch them in that case isn't it?

>>160614942
What? Have you only been watching shit like Bleach and DBZ?

>>160614881
exactly, when you've been here for ten years and hitting your late 20's you start realizing demographics mean nothing and you're still a fucking loser NEET no matter what shitty anime you watch
like i said though, everyone on /a/ goes into a shounen hating phase at some point because 4chan as a whole encourages trying to get e credit and validation from your fellow anons by adopting the board hivemind
its why those retarded 3x3 threads exist, people in these threads dont actually post their tastes, they just post whatever they think will look cool to their fellow anons

>>160615232
>demographics
"Battle shounen" is not a demographic, despite having one as part of its name. Demographics are meaningless, genres are not.

Ten years ago, before people caught on to the endless bullshit cycle of tournament arcs and training arcs, they were fun.

Now the primary audience has grown up and moved on, the new kids aren't interested in catching up 200 episodes of backlog.
Also everyone knew they'd just get the same bullshit of tournament arcs and training arcs.

>>160614543
>Why don't people like battle shounen anymore?
>>160614604
>I'm no longer fifteen and new
exactly how I feel. I enjoyed Hunter x until the Yorknew arc and then it went full battle shonen and I lost interest.

>>160615294
im 26 and im enjoying DBS

>>160615294
yeah the backlog might have something to do with it, shonen is kind of hard to get into and once you've lost your fans to, well them growing up then it's hard to get new ones

>>160615312
>im enjoying DBS
Now this is just shit taste, regardless of opinions on battle shounen in general.

>>160615232
So not having your own opinion is apparently cool now, oh the irony.

>>160615346
oh

>>160614604
>I stopped being fifteen

Jacking off to slice of life yuri bait doesnt make you mature.

>>160614613
>>160614805
>>160614881
>>160615004
These.

>>160615346
I love battle shounen(at least the few golden ones) and I agree.

>>160614543
No one wants to follow hundreds of episodes/chapters only to get a shitty ending. People have caught on to how the weekly schedule that Shonen Jump follows and the need to drag out a series as long as possible are outright destructive to good storytelling.

>>160615384
I jack off to only the most enlightened artists like Gengoroh Tagame, thank you very much.

Do people actually enjoy having to sit through 8 episodes for a single battle because they pad it to hell and think kids are too stupid to notice?

>>160615469
No good battle shounen needs to drag on that long. Stop watching shit like Bleach and DBZ.

>>160615421
Battle shounen are more about the journey rather than the destination. If you're going to watch One Piece just to see them find One Piece then you're retarded. It's the many glorious moments along the way.

For example, in One Piece, when the crew say goodbye to Vivi while being chased by the marines and were able to say so much with just one sign, that kind of moment is beautiful no matter what the ending of the series may be.

>>160615565
every shonen is like that, even hunter got to that point. They used to put multiple fights into one episode and didn't waste time, just watch the Gon Hisoka fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrdbZT5luns

then they went off the deep end

>>160615750
>watching One Piece
>watching

>>160615294
Tournament arcs are a tool. Many shounen writers found it's a good way to give room to focus on each character and their personal issues for a while instead of the main plot.

>>160615232
>>160615376
>anyone who disagrees with me is just parroting others and doesn't have their own opinion!
Speaking of irony.

>>160615827
I mean it's ironic how people think following the herd is cool now because they don't even have an opinion of their own to take pride in.

>>160615793
Okay, the same thing but just "reading" One Piece.

>>160615764
>Gon vs Hisoka
>8 episodes?
It certainly wasn't that long. I don't think it even dragged on much, just long enough.

>>160616057
gon vs hisoka was 5 mins, an example of a good fight int he earlier seasons before it went to shit and dragged on

>>160616057
I think he was using that as an example of the opposite.

>>160616139
Then which fight was too long?

>>160616202
shadow beasts was one was bad. Especially since it came after the mob fight, then was followed with the car chase, then had the rest of the shadow beasts.

Mahou Shoujo is better because the joy of watching little girls kick ass is infinitely levels beyond boring hyper masculine shit.

>>160614543
I love battle shonen. I work hard in manual labor and get my 40 hours. Warehouse is 100+ degrees. Sweat dripping off my visor and I want to quit and throw everything away! But then I think of what Goku or Luffy or Tai or Ash would do and I dont lose my way. I dont give up. I fght!

>>160615764
It's true shounen fights are almost always longer than fights in other shows, even when it comes to good shounen. But with good shounen, there's always a reason it's that long. First, to build up the drama, second, to build up the scenario to add to the conclusion.

Fights in good shounen tend to be very detail oriented and they want the viewers to understand the technique that's involved in the outcome. Take a look at shows like Yu Yu Hakusho, Jojo and Hunter X Hunter. Even most Naruto fights, with the exception of the overly long Juubi battle.

Most of the time when the fight seems to be taking longer, it's used to make clear what the combatants are capable of and building up the strategy that leads to the outcome.

>>160616262
Shadow Beast fight was still no where near 8 episodes.

>>160616585
>hyper masculine

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>>160614604
>tfw you're no longer 18 and you like shonen again

>>160615469
I think shonen has gone through some big changes these past few years. My Hero Academia has never spent more than an entire episode in a single fight, some of them have been last half of one and first half of the next one, but never more than a full 24-minute episode. One Punch Man did this as well, and even Hunter x Hunter did it to some extent, there the few battles longer than a single episode were segmented and went back and forth between different fights and different characters. We're way past the days of filler animation to make battles extra-long like in Dragon Ball Z, or stories that had really long battles to begin with like Naruto and Bleach.

>>160616637
You might want to go back to school and get a beyter job. One with less hours and more pay

>>160614543
Probably because it never has good story telling. The irony is people here have replaced the easy endorphin milking power level mind candy with lazy slice of life cutsie shit or near-porn candy.

Based on resentment towards series like Tokyo Ghoul, /a/ actually doesn't really like content that tells a story.

>>160614942
People who say this only think of stories and shows as a collection of tropes, think anything can possibly be original, and don't give a single damn about execution even if they claim to.

>>160615056
Go learn what moe actually means because there isn't a such thing as a "moe show". Moe isn't a genre or art style.

>>160617803
One Punch man is a PARODY of battle shounen though, it's not the same thing.

>>160617906
I believe he's referring to series like K-on which have a plot seemingly aimed at young girls (Like a shojo manga) but done in a way that makes it a Seinen manga.

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>People don't like battle shonen

Yes they do, they love stuff like Fate or Kill La Kill or OnePunchMan.

The problem is that these other series, like My Hero Academia, are not really "battle shonen", but more just "shonen".

They focus so little on actual battles and the battles mean so little that people just get bored of them quickly and move on to the story, which is always shallow because it's shonen.

It's like asking "why don't people like marvel comics anymore." It's because current marvel is not what it used to be about.

>>160617977
Forget I mentioned it, then. Actually, is there any modern Shonen that STILL does multi-episode long battles? I can't think of any.

>>160618000
That still isn't what moe means. He could just say cutesy or something. Anyway, K-ON!'s plot only seems aimed towards little girls if you go into it expecting for it to be shallow and thus don't pay attention to it, especially in season two.

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>>160614543
>Why don't people like battle shounen anymore?

Your question assumes something that isn't even right

That's even including contrarian central here, just look at the catalog

>>160618122
That's what I meant by "done in a way that makes it seinen"
It might have a little bit more depth than an actual Shojo manga but the point was that the topic of high school girls doing cute things and the label as Seinen which is for adult men speaks volumes about what exactly is going on with that series and its intended purpose.

>>160618030
When it comes to anime, not really, mainly because there just aren't many battle shounen adapted nowadays.

The closest would probably be My Hero Academia. I can remember Deku and Ochako vs Bakugo and Ieda. But that was hardly dragged on since every moment was important in building the drama or setting up the strategy.

>>160614543
it's the lowest quality genre and extremely entry level so it brings cancerous faggots to the board

>>160614543
There simply aren't that many interesting ones anymore. It's a genre that came out of fashion and hasn't had a really outstanding work for quite a while, Boku no Hero Academy is probably the best one right now and that isn't particularly exciting either.
It's been an eternity since things like Medaka Box came out. We've already gone through the magical highschool bullshit and are probably nearing the end of the isekai trend since then.

>>160618417
>Medaka Box
not even shounen. battle shounen is just a trash genre and its good its getting less and less popular

Battle Shounen and Shounenshit in general is only good when it's not that long. When it stretches on it becomes shit.

>>160617803
OPM is seinen, anon.

>>160614604
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>>160614982
>>160615565
>>160618339
Being grown men means you're only allowed to enjoy fapping to lesbian lolis.

>>160618908
Yep, every anime/manga is either a battle shounen or /u/bait with lolis, you sure know your stuff.

>>160618942
>Responding to obvious bait.

>>160618821
>Seinen
Yeah, no nigga. OPM is shonen and loved by shonen fans, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because nowadays I think defining things by genre is kinda useless. Shonen and Seinen get their names from their target demographic, and today anime might have a larger age and gender demographic than ever before, there's an overlap between the same group of people watching and enjoying all kinds of different genres. Now, if you're defining the genre by its tropes instead of target audience, then OPM is in no way a Seinen.

>>160618508
Of course it's shounen, what the fuck are you on about?

Because battle shounen are awful works that I tolerated when I was younger. My tastes, like it has been stated by other anons, have changed to the point watching or reading a battle shounen would cause me to die of boredom. It's the same reason I don't listen to buttrock or nu-metal anymore.
If I want battles, I'll go read some seinen manga that has action. And the mods need to ban narutards again along with DB. They just shit up the place.

>>160619181
>nigga
Yes, my "nigga." Fuck off.
Also it's published in Weekly Young Jump. Shounen and Seinen are still useful in identifying material. For example, usually the latter will provide more depth than the former. But I guess if all you read is battle shounen, your brain will rot.

>>160619181
>Yeah, no nigga
It is, you dumb faggot. This is not debatable, these are objective categories. It runs in a seinen magazine, end of story.

>>160619427
Battle shounens have the most detail oriented fights though, you don't get stuff like that anywhere else.

>>160615232
>People don't post there own taste
That's retarded. This is an anonymous forum; literally no one knows who you are.

No one gives a shit.

>>160619479
>>160619427
>Also it's published in Weekly Young Jump.
>It runs in a seinen magazine,
Welp, I stand corrected. Sorry for my slight retardation there, we can get OPM out of the equation now.

>>160619543
He didn't even say anything about detail, though.

>>160619815
He still said it's better to just read battles elswhere as though the ones in shounen are nothing special.

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>>160619851
I'll admit I don't read a lot of seinen action due to my tastes changing, but the ones I have read never lacked in detail compares to the ones in battle shounen manga. Plus, any noticeable differences that might be found in the two would not make me want to slog through the terrible plots and characters that shounen manga have; it isn't worth it.

>>160614543
It's so boring.

>>160619851
That doesn't mean that he thinks detail makes fights better, though.