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Is she SSB-tier?
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>>160558832
who isn't?
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>>160558832
I don't know, but Gohan is now confirmed to be SSB tier, so you guys can start crying right now
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Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful
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What about this? I think we can all agree, a jack would suit her better. Right?
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Reminder Jiren is hype.
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She'll need her second form for that.
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Reminder Hti will EVOLVE and win the ToP
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>>160558832
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
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>>160558832
Reminder that Gohan is very handsome
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Reminder that Android 18 is beautiful.
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>>160558928
>demon teletubby
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Will vegeta hold back in blue?
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>>160559080
>will X hold back
always yes
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>>160558888
>>160558920
>>160558935
>>160558949
>>160558986
>>160558993
that's six. this needs to fucking stop.
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>>160559213
>implying shitposting gets old
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Reminder Pedro was right
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>>160559213
The hit one is actually useful and promotes discussion
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>>160558888
>Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful
>it went unwitnessed until this day
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>>160559298
Reminder Jobhan is shit
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>>160559280
By it's very definition it is old - like an antique store filled with pogs.
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About holding back...
Wouldn't his ssj1-3 forms suffice? Or are max ssj3 too weak even for the likes of krillin?
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>>160558935
MADE DONUTS ALL NIGHT MOTHER FUCKER
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>>160558906

Fuck off Cauliwhore, once I deal with Jiren I'll come for you.
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>>160559682
>Cauliwhore

Literally the face of purity. Now I know you're trying to bamboozle my didgeridoo.
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reminder that the fandom of dragonball believes shit like: goku is the bad dad, picollo is the good one

Despite this:

Piccollo:
>kidnaped gohan, beat him up for 6 months
>gohan was too cowardly to fight nappa
>piccollo trys to speak for gohan before he fights cell
>piccollo doenst think gohan is strong
>gohan assures him that he not only is capable, but thought cell and goku weren't tryoing enough

Goku:
>spent time with gohan from birth to radizt kidnapping him
>Piccollo even thinks he was spoiled
>after training 1 year with him, gohan is stronger than him, confident and fights better
>doesnt spend time with him when hes dead
>doesnt spend time with him when he is in the healing pods or flying to save him
>doesnt spend time when he is an adult and has his own life and hot ass wife
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>Finally found a version of GT with the English voice track and original Japanese score
What am I in for here? I fucking hated that industrial soundtrack Funi gave the series and I've heard the original music is vastly superior.
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>>160559612
>Hit (Arisen)
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>>160559949

Nothing can make GT good. It's far too flawed. sorry senpai
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>>160560079
It's better than Super. Prove me wrong without resorting to calling me a Pedro. You literally can't.
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>>160560140
I agree with you on that. Even though it's not really saying much.
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>>160558832
I'd put her Buutenks-tier
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>>160560140
If GT is so good how come it only lasted 64 episodes
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>>160560177
This.
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>>160560304
Because unlike Super it knew when to stop.
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>>160560327
GT got canceled though.
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>>160560177
Anyone got that screenshot of the traced scenes?
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>>160560079
It still can't be worse than The Return of Cooler
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>>160560177
>>160560318
Best development in the ToP since U9 and its mouthy Kai being erased
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>>160560269
Every U6 saiyan is above buutenks in base form
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>>160560404
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>>160560177
>>160560404
>Caulishit does the entire beam sequence with one arm
>when it's over she is back to normal and uses both arms to carry her junior's limp body
Why can't Super do anything right not even an "homage"
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>>160560592
Get this shit out of here. How dare you compare real Saiyans to fake ones.
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>>160560592
thanks m8
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>>160560618
She used the one-armed ki blast in 92 and 97
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Was Dragon Ball Super a mistake? Should they have stopped after the movie?
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>>160560821
After BoG, yes.
RoF by itself is reason enough for Toriyama to have stopped there but he really wanted the money I guess.
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>>160560821
No, even though it's bad, it's still somewhat fun and nostalgic.
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>>160560821
Yes, Super was a mistake.
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>>160560821
Yes. Super should be a bunch of new movies, not a new anime.
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Why is this thread a wasteland?
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>>160560821
Nah it's fun if you're not an autist who takes it too seriously.
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>>160558906
You know what suits her better? Erasure.
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>>160561573
>Wanting a non retarded show full lf issues
Autistic
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>>160561556
welcome to /a/
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Reminder the Androids are weaker than Gohan and are the next ones to job.
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>>160561777
>frieza weaker than vegeta
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>>160558993
18 jobbed to this. Waifufags will defend this.
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>>160561777
>Freeza weaker than Jobgetta

His point of view alright, there is no way that can be right.
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>>160561840
>>160561872
Vegeta wiped the floor with Lakers Frieza in Ressurection of F.

Frieza is stronger now but so is Vegeta.
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>>160561691
>unable to have fun with a series that never really takes itself seriously to begin with
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>>160561777
REMINDER THIS GUY IS NOT TORIYAMA
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>>160561938
>Vegeta wiped the floor with Lakers Frieza in Ressurection of F
Yeah, after Goku did all the work, and Frieza was already exhausted.
And even then, Vegeta still got BTFO'd, and if weren't for Whis he'd still be space dust
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0VygIZrQA

for my taco amigos
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>>160561985
Retard shitposting with reaction face of a retard
>hurr it doesnt take itself seriously any random shit could happen and make sense because of this
Doing that doesnt make enjoyable you moron
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>>160561938
Golden Frieza was stronger than both Goku and Vegeta. His problem was the huge stamina drain, which is why Vegeta easily defeated him after the fight with Goku wore him out.
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>toyopedros

Not even once
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>>160561573
Autistic= Don't question this retarded show I enjoy. It ruins it!
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>>160562076
It doesn't have to be well written to be enjoyable you autistic mouth breather.
Stop wanking over who is the strongest and who isn't and enjoy the fucking show for what it is. The flaws the show has will never go away, there is no source material to fall back on and Toriyama clearly doesn't care enough to provide in depth scripts/outlines for the show.
Having recently rewatched DB and Z, Z is easily the least enjoyable series out of the 3. It has more hype moments, but everything is so dragged out it makes watching it a fucking struggle.
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>>160562035
Vegeta was just enjoying what he finally thought was his big moment being able to take down the big bad for once but Freeza was a little bitch who decided to blow up the earth instead of dying with dignity. Also Goku was a kill stealing asshole and could've just told Vegeta Freeza was going to blow up the planet and to kill him now.
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>>160562401
>watched DB and Z
>Z
Should have just read the manga instead.
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>>160562401
>It doesn't have to be well written

Wew!
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>>160562076
>hurr it doesnt take itself seriously any random shit could happen and make sense because of this
Yep, that's Dragon Ball.
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>>160562416
Doesn't change the fact that Freeza was stronger than Goku AND Vegeta then and only lost because of his stamina issues, which he has solved now. Toshio is clueless, everything points out to Freeza being Universe 7's strongest.
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How long will it takes for U7 to get erased and Caulifla becames the new protagonist?
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>>160558993

Why on Namek?
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>>160559812
The reason people believe Goku is a terrible dad is because they've all seen the retarded abridged series.

Almost no one here has rewatched DBZ, let alone DB and thus have warped knowledge of the series, hell some haven't even seen DB or DBZ (only Kai).

Say what you will, pedros at least re-watch this shit and put some thought to the best of their minimal capabilities. Compared to the teenagers here, I'd much rather discuss headcanon retarded power levels than trying to prove something obvious to anyone who've seen the series.
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>>160562416
Goku barely made it in time as it is. If we were to nitpick the scene the most logical thing to do would have been to instant transmission Freeza to King Kai's planet and deal with him there.
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>>160562471
Already read it. I introduced someone to the series and watched the anime with them.
>>160562488
>every anime/program I watch has to make sense for me to enjoy it
>I literally can't have fun with an anime that doesn't take itself too seriously.
This is bait
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>>160562694
Go fuck yourself.
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How will she react when Gowasu gets erased?
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>>160562692
Goku and Frieza were evenly matched in their latest fight. Goku told Frieza "while you were in hell I fought strong guys from other universes", he's powered up significantly since RoF.
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>>160562796
Angels don't care.
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>>160562694
I hope she leaks her entire ki when she goes SS3 and her entire further use from there in the tournament is to take part in the SSG ritual to power up Cabba.
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>>160562747
>every anime/program I watch has to make sense for me to enjoy it
LMAO dude, are you retarded?
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>>160562747
>It doesn't have to make sense! They can just cobble shit together and call it a night and I'll gladly eat it up! Why can't you do the same?
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>>160562826
Forgot pic related
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>>160562848
>>160562894
>everything Toriyama pulled out of his arse is gold but DBS sucks because it does the exact same thing
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>>160562796
None of the angels will give a fuck if their universe gets erased, not even Whis.
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>>160561872
>goku and vegeta train like mad to fight zamzam and bracku
>train even more afterwords
>>freiza is stronger
freizafags are delusional
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>>160562969
Never made excuses for Hackira's asspulls.
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>>160563034
You never enjoyed Dragon Ball in the first place if that is the case, so why are you shitposting here with me and not in another thread?
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>>160562997
>goku train like mad to fight zamzam and bracku
nice headcanon, he is stronger by default than that loser Vegeta who trains an extra year and still gets outperformed.
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>>160558832
Roshi will defeat her with the Mafuba...
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>>160563120
Nobody said I didn't enjoy it, I just saw through the shit he pulled out of his ass like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and Zenkais and shit like that.
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Senzu Beans were the biggest clutch used by Toriyama in Z.
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>>160563239
Super has asspulls weekly.
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>>160562997
OH ROBIN VAN PERSIE
WHO ARE YA
WHO ARE YA
20
20
20
OH ROBIN VAN PERSIE
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cauli and kale predictions

>used a fodder to hype up a new challenger
>cauli uses meme magic to become ssb / kale becomes lssj2 memeshit
>they last till the end till jiren thundercock gets them both out

place your bets.
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Yo, people need to be careful with those Toshio tweets they keep spamming everywhere, Toshio uses Google Translate when he responds in English, so what comes out is often very different from what he actually meant, which is why he's always seemingly correcting or contradicting himself in later tweets.
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>>160563239
I understand that, but I always found that endearing about Dragon Ball. Some of the asspulls made the show more fun for me.
I was never particularly fond of anything post Freeza, and even the Namek arc was a struggle at some points. Cell and Boo have their moments, at least Boo manages to be somewhat entertaining even if it does have the most asspulls.

The show had been heading down this path for sometime, so I feel it's just better to enjoy the ride than get upset by it.
I wasn't particularly happy with Kale walking through SSB Goku's kamehameha but I'm old enough to not let it bother me for long.
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>>160563702
asspulls are what make dragonball interesting

beam power struggles are shit tier, it's much more entertaining when weird shit happens
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>>160562401
>calls anyone who doesn't enjoy a poorly written show a mouhtbreather
>dude, just turn your brain off and enjoy DBSupershitshow, lol!
You shills are unbelievable.
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>>160564168
>calling one person a mouthbreather somehow means I'm calling everyone who dislikes the show a mouthbreath.
Good one
>dude it's a fucking kids show that has similar issues to its predecessor
Let's cry like the manchildren we are because our anime isn't edgy and well written. Dragon Ball has almost never been well written, why is it only now an issue for you?
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>>160564374
The absolute country of DBShills.
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>>160564374
So because it wasn't well written before, it's okay now? Look at how much shit the Buu arc gets for it's asspulls.
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>people are still triggered Kale beat Goku
What part of "maximum" don't they understand?
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Chandra Chandra Chandra Brambra Bendram

YA prishel dat' etu pesnyu
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>>160564490
>Crickets
I think he's dead.
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>>160558949
>>160558888
reminder Son Goku has no muscle
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Why do you people get mad when someone enjoys Super
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>>160564445
>repeatedly say that the show isn't well written but it never has been so enjoy it for what it is
>somehow this is shilling
Actual bait.
>>160564490
The Boo arc was fucking fun though, people give it shit because it wasn't ultra serious, not because of the asspulls. Gohan is a literal asspull character and most people outside of /a/ don't complain about his Ultimate form, love the SSJ3 transformation, etc
People unironically love Cell and that entire shit arc, despite it being the absolute worst in the franchise barring perhaps Piccolo Daimao.
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>>160564657
It's a mediocre replica of "Dragon Ball" and shills literally telling us to watch and eat it up like choldren.
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>>160564755
Do you really think any shills would even try to shill it here? Are you so deluded that you think you're important enough?
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>Lower your standards and enjoy this cashgrab.

This is why people hate when scatterbrains tell us to like Super. It's written by people who don't give a shit.
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>>160564607

Freeza stock looking real good bruh.
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Is dragonball heroes worse than super?
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>>160564847
You fucking faggots are insuferable

>hey guys that new episode was pretty cool
REEEE IT WAS FUCKING SHIT BECAUSE OF THIS AND THAT KILL YOURSELF
>it wasn't that bad
YES IT WAS YOU STUPID DBS SHILL


You're even worst that any toyotaro vs toei shitposter, caulifags, gohanfags or any other shitposter here
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>>160559812
Piccolo was a villain back then, retard.
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>>160565006
Literally have to be retarded to like this show.
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>>160561573
>not an autist
>/a/
come on, man.
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>>160564719
>Super is shit
>bu-but! Z and DB are shit, too!
Super is shittier than its predecessors.
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>>160565063
Maybe, but you have to be even more retarded or autistic to go on a screeching rampage just because someone likes it
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>>160565131
What don't they understand about this? It's not good enough.
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>>160565184
Nobody cares about that, let the retards enjoy this show. But stop dismissing criticisms of Super.
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>>160565240
I just said that Super is not bad enough to get so angry about it
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>>160565033
>saiyan saga Piccolo
>villain
Pick one and only one.
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>>160565131
Super is shit, but it is an enjoyable show for myself and many others. I'm not forcing you to like it, merely stating that it suffers with the exact same issues as its predecessors.

>Super is shittier than its predecessors.
Z had the better moments, but it's not as enjoyable as DB or Super for me. Z gets carried because it had some genuinely good fights, but it is easily the least enjoyable anime of the 3 personally.
Super's fight mostly suck, with the exception of a few, and there is clear fanservice for a lot of characters. But it's an enjoyable show that doesn't feel like a chore to grind through like Z does.
>>160565240
Who is dismissing the criticisms? We've for the most part acknowledged the issues with the show. The issue here is that you make the show seem worse than what it really is, then call us shills for merely stating that it ultimately isn't too different from its predecessors.
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>>160565333

Its pretty damn bad. I don't see how you could like it without at least seeing Z, which means its relying completely on callbacks and nostalgia. Personally I'm enjoying it, but its objectively horrible in of itself.
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>>160558867
Not many. Everyone in this tournament besides Toppo/Hit/Jiren seem to be absolutely garbage compared to U7
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>>160565455
>Super is shit
Concession accepted.
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Started out as one, at least. Otherwise, why would he assume he might fight Gohan later?
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What was her endgame?
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>>160565564
meant for >>160565348
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>>160565562
But I said it wasn't well written from the start, it's still enjoyable.
Here's my last (You), unless you're participating in another discussion then you'll probably get another from me.
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>>160565610
Yeah, I saw this in walmart
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>>160565602
>tfw never saw this scene as a kid because you only watched these eps on the ocean dub on Toonami years ago
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>>160565602
to waste time so Tori could write the manga
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>>160565672
>But I said...
You are an extremely dense person.
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>>160562916
>that pic
can't they just fuck already
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>>160565808
No, Goku didn't wait. He wifed up an oppressive chink.
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>>160565808
No because Goku doesn't do weaklings and now only has eyes for Jiren. Even poor Hitto is already used goods he doesn't care about anymore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esEp1eciQaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtfNPqQQspU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzEOcN7J6fg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyWUxo4DoCM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9jZHXz54FM
>toei a sh-
Fuck off, they just happen to not work on super
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>>160565677
Anyone know how well it's selling?
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>>160564607
F needs to play now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw
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What's Goku's win-loss record in DBS?
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>>160565893
4 shame. he cant even hit chichi back without killing her. if it was Caulifa they would just fight off any disagreement
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>>160565808
Goku doesn't fuck with weaklings like Caulifla. Maybe Kale could have a chance with him, though.
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>>160564755
If you rewatch DB or DBZ right now you'll realize that the pacing is so terrible that despite consistent animation quality, you'll get bored out of your mind fairly quickly unless you are multitasking while viewing. Frankly, GT is better for viewing because at least the story gets somewhere at a decent pace.

Super is FAR more entertaining than DB/DBZ.
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>>160561573
this desu
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>>160565677
>$35 for 13 episodes
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>>160566094
>Super is FAR more entertaining than DB/DBZ.
Top kek
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>>160562364
This
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>>160561573
This.
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What's the next step of his master plan?
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>>160558832
according to the opening, yeah.
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>>160566204
Goku, Lucifer (Daishinkan), and the angels are working together to overthrow Zeno. They plan to imprison Zeno in an inescapable void.
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>>160565455
Have you watched kai
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>>160566315
doesn't seem like a Goku thing to do
if anything he wants to stop/reverse things being erased and remove god of destructions entirely
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>>160566315
>>160566375
Sun Wukong (who Goku was originally based on) went to heaven and fought the gods in Journey to the West.
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>>160558993
>that disgustingly deformed body
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>>160566325
I have not, I heard it fixes a lot of the pacing issues though.
I would watch it, but I don't like the English dub and since Japanese Z is better than Kai in terms of voice acting, I stick to Z.
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>>160566446
This. Reason why Caulifla is the most sexy looking girl in the franchise: she actually looks like a woman.
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>>160566480
>Reason why Caulifla is the most sexy looking girl in the franchise: she actually looks like a woman.
>she actually looks like a woman
Kill yourself, you were BTFO yesterday when you decided to spew this autistic shit.
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>>160566204
Are you saying Hit, Goku and Frieza are plotting together against the Gods? Now that would be quite the twist.
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>>160566375
The ultimate God of Destruction is Zeno. Without Zeno, the Gods of Destruction have no reason to do their job. Goku brought future Zeno to the present timeline in hopes that the two Zenos would erase each other. This didn't happen. Daishinkan, the angels, and Goku then planned to hold a tournament in an inescapable void dimension to trap the two Zenos forever.

Daishinkan plans to take Zeno's throne. Goku plans on backstabbing the Grant Priest to create a world with no destructive forces.
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Is Krillin stronger than Tenshinhan?
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>>160566513
18 is a glorified sex doll.
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>>160566538
But Goku would have to trap himself.
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>>160566551
Yes absolutely. Krillin likely rivals 18 right now considering how he saved 18's ass in the tournament.
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chimpturdzee caulifuck should be shot by furiza sama's laser like how piccolo daimao did to kid goku back in DB.
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>>160566575
I never thought about it that way. I guess she is.
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>>160566576
>le super dragonball asspull wish Goku out of the void
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>>160566600
Okay Satan does that men Krillin is stronger than Goku since 18 > Goku?
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>>160566513
18 is shit, anon. Caulifla looks better, it is time to accept it and stop being gay.
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>>160566615
Wut? All Piccolo did was throw rocks at Goku's limbs.
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>>160566654
>18 is shit, anon
I never argued otherwise.
> Caulifla looks better
>
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>>160566661
>body harder than steel resists bullets
>pebbles thrown at incredible force can hurt him on impact instead of just breaking into dust
really makes you think
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>>160566699
Dubs and Satan trips confirms Caulifla a shit.
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>>160566653
Considering Goku needed to go SSJ against Krillin, we can assume base Goku would struggle against Krillin.
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>>160566654
All of these girls are shit, imagine Caulifla and Kale in real life. Would you fuck a girl with black pupils and shitty hair? 18 is mediocre and she married mediocre. Dragon Ball is not the right show to be lookig for waifus. Pigtails Videl was the GOAT, but look at what happened to her.
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>>160566699
>le reddit boogeyman

Just because Reddit and other famous youtubers agree that Caulifla is one of the best new characters from Super doesn't mean they are wrong, you pathetic contrarian. Go ahead and continue to be a hipster while the rest of the fanbase appreciates a female character actually being important and useful in the franchise for something other than having babies.
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>>160566783
she's important, but doesn't stop her character from being shit
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>>160566783
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>>160558832
In the anime? Yes. Just like every other character
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>>160566654
The only persons Stickfla looks better than are her fellow u6 saiyans and only because one of them looks like Geran's long lost sibling on half her shots, and the other is a stickman even more thin than she is.
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>>160566783
You sound like a faggot.
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>>160560140
>It's better than Super.
That doesn't mean all that much to be honest. I like it because of nostalgia, but it has glaring flaws.
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>>160566783
>someone with this much shit tastes exists
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>>160566837
Jokes aside, Goku didn't take any damage at the end of episode 100. He was literally 100% ready to fight Jiren without a scratch on him despite the beating he received from Kale. However, Goku was noticeably hurt from Toppo's Justice Flash in episode 101. In my opinion, this was the first time Goku was injured in the tournament of power.
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>>160566866
>>160566899
Dubs confirms Caulifla a shit even more.
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>other thread didnt even reach bump limit
>people already migrated
when will you fucks LEARN
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>>160566866
>>160566899
>>160566849

Just fucking kiss him already.
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Daily reminder that 18 is beautiful
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>>160558878
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Reminder Vegeta loves his friend Goku and his new daughter (in law) Mai
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQcDJBsGYM

friendly reminder this is how anti caulifags look like
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>>160566783
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>>160566948
I'd rather kiss you.
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>>160566959
>never seen a couple kiss in his life
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What was the point of this character?
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>>160558935
doesn't it seem strange that someone who never gets hit because of his insane speed is able to withstand blows from a super saiyan god when he does get hit?
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>>160566962
Reminder that Vegeta went pissed off of Black because he stole his bro's body
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>>160566998
To spite us, just like the other relevant u6 saiyans.
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>>160566998
Visit to planet Salad soon
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>>160567009
you mean
>impregnated his wife multiple times without ever kissing her
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>>160566962
>>160567018
Reminder that Goku and Vegeta are total bros
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>>160567009
No. Just because he never gets hit doesn't mean his durability is shit tier, anon. Grand Priest never gets hit, either. Is he low durability?
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>>160566998
What was the point of this series?
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>>160566995
>>160567046

fuck
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>>160566972
why is he wearing a disfigured pikachu on his head?
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>>160566778
>imagine Caulifla and Kale in real life.

That is pretty easy considering they are pretty realistic. Yes, there are strong females like Caulifla in real life, anon. Just because your pathetic small misogynistic brain and insecurities tell you to hate everything with a vagina doesn't mean it isn't true. Super is already miles better than Z and OG DB just for finally introducing a good female character on the series, which was something it was in serious need. I find it funny when they complain about Caulifla achieving SSJ2 and Kale being more powerful than SSB Goku but they don't mind it when another male surpasses Goku with some bullshit form. Maybe they should stop watching new anime and go back to /pol/ because females being as strong as males will be the norm from now.
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>>160567106
He's a freak.
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>>160566962
The look on Zamasu's face when Vegeta kicks Goku is the best.
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>>160567118
>Thinking anyone would be stupid enough to take this bait
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Reminder Freeza will resurrect himself with the dragon balls after betraying Goku who let his guard down
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>>160566962
Reminder that Vegeta is a tactical genius
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>>160567088
>U10 is totally fucked
>U11 surprisingly had a lot of weak members
>U2 and U6 are still 100%

I'm going to pull out another red herring theory out of my ass and say U6 is going to be the final boss of this arc.
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>>160567118
Caulicucks. Not even once.
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>>160567154
Just to spite you, i'll take the bait!

>>160567118
(You)
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>>160567121
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>>160566972
I hope Caulifla does get SSJ Blue just so he does break his computer.
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>>160567118
Super isn't better than Z or DB, fucktard. I couldn't care less about a strong female lead. You're fucked in the head, hang yourself immediately for even thinking of typing that.
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>>160562692
Freeza might have been stronger than Goku & Vegeta when he revived but since then they've both spent like 4 years in the bullshit time chamber while Freeza literally did nothing but hang around in a cocoon.
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Color anon are you here? Can you do the Hakai page?
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>>160566998
To challenge Vegeta in the game of 'who's the better jobber?' and lose.
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>>160567240
Guess someone did bite on this mental midget bait.
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>>160567261
god damn how does that look so good?
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>>160566972
The negro is right though.
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>>160567304
Great art and great coloring.
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>>160567193
U11 was always just Jiren and Toppo
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>>160567240
>>160567208
>>160567200
>>160567154
>Gohanpedos mad because CHADfla has already surpassed him in screentime, power and importance

Can't wait for the "Piccolo training Caulifla" arc to see your delicious tears.
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>>160566998
>Toriyama: here hope you like it
>Toei: Kids didn't love it, try again
>Toriyama: ok gimme a minute (laughs)
>Caulifla
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>>160567333
Reminder to ignore this falseflagger.
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>>160567333
>muh gohan boogeyman
Nice damage control. Fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>160567018
I like how Vegeta actually went on to get the better of Black in their rematch under Toyo instead of being thwarted by his opponent stabbing himself, giving him access to a scythe capable of opening clone-spewing portals.
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>>160567333
Trips confirm.

I just realized she has basically the same outfit as Gohan but without the tunic.
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>>160567333
What an idiot. You're the samefag that started the Gohan vs Caulifla war aren't you? Guess what? In a multiverse with angels and Hit's race and Jiren's race and Frieza's race, SAIYANS ARE SHIIIIITTTTT
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>>160567371
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>>160566778
>Pigtails Videl was the GOAT
>this level of shit taste

Wew
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>>160566954
for once the anatomy is correct enough. Nice find
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>>160567420
For the shitty females Dragon Ball has, yes she was. It wasn't even close.
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>>160566204
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Spirit sword was a huge bullshit but I wish Zamasu died here, the ending we got made the entire arc senseless.
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>>160567363
I'm pretty sure most of the participants in this are aware it's baitposting, they just do it anyway because they're addicted to (you)s as well and it's an easy way to harvest them

I know for a fact that that was all that the anime vs manga shit was about, retards rolling in the mud and slinging poo at each other just because their pea brains were entertained by it
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>>160567464
Tsuyu Asui is way better than these ugly bitches.
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>>160567304
It helps Toyotaro doesn't have the "kiddie show" restriction and can actually show people getting hurt and bleeding. Can't wait to see his Caulifla and Kale in the next arc.
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>>160567464
Shit taste.
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>>160567507
>Spirit sword was a huge bullshit
the same how it was in Z
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>>160567568
Faggot assblasted because of the truth
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>>160567344
>Toriyama: ok gimme a minute (laughs)
Don't you mean
>(raughs)
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>>160567371
Vegeta winning after jobbing is always satisfactory
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>>160567481
I like the blue used for the fur. Looks great and dreamy.
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>>160567609
It's not. Videl is fucking ugly.
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Just get the autism out, how YOU write Caulifla/Kale?
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>manga version of tournament of power

Can toyo save it?
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>>160567682
>Can toyo save it?
If they make the manga weekly then yes.
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>>160567682
No. The premise is shit. Not even the best writer in the world could save it.
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>>160567682
How can anyone save this? It's Toriyama's fault at this point. Toyotaro can't fix his shit outline. He can only try.
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>>160567402
And yet we have been fucking besotted with saiyajins this entire fucking arc.
We've had to sit through like 6 goddamned poorly fucking handled and lowly rated eps of this bullshit because someone at toei thinks they can shill a few more fucking saiyajins.

No one likes the three new fucking saiyajins and the mere fact that they exist and it's so easy for them to get SSJ makes SSJ absolute shit overall.
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>>160567641
None of the Dragon Ball girls are attractive desu. I'd say Mai and Launch are the hottest.

As a character: Bulma > Videl > everyone else.
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Freeza's the type to rage out and use cheat codes when he's losing, while Frost will have cheats on from the start
Frost>>Freeza
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>>160567682
Yes, by skipping it entirely.
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>>160567752
>generalizing
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>>160567464
Pig tails Videl was at the time THE MOST HATED BEING IN DBZ TO EVER EXIST.
No, I am not exaggerating. This is a concrete fact.
Just like fire is hot, water is wet, and the only people that like pig tailed bitch videl are just like her.
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>>160567752
>it's so easy for them to get SSJ makes SSJ absolute shit overall.
*cough* kid trunks and goten
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>>160567755
>Mai
No.
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>>160567817
Your taste is objectively shit taste
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>>160567777
Freeza initially was dumber around when he first got golden because he had zero concept of anything outside his echo chamber.
Now that he has had some experience seeing what goes on in the multiverse I hope he develops into a smarter character but probably not.

Honestly hope Jiren or Toppo fights Freeza/Frost in some misguided good vs evil fight
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>>160567802
Because Japan can't handle anything more than a pathetic housewife.
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>>160567817
Absolute shit taste.
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>>160567755
Mai and Bulma are the best
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>>160567852
No, it isn't. Mai is ugly.
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>>160567804
>muh goten and trunks
not this shit again
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>>160567897
Mai is shit.
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>>160567901
That is no way to talk about Trunks's wife, anon.
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>>160567901
You're ugly.
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Where the FUCK are the Toeichads? These threads are terrible now, full of toyo dicksuckers and nobody challenging them. What the FUCK?
The manga is still shit.
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>>160567682

Wouldn't the manga accentuate the problems of it so far? Unless he spends more than a year on it I'm not sure anyone will get much panel time.
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>>160567901
you're ugly
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>>160567946
Mai is love. Mai is life.
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>>160567752
Exactly, anon. We have all these strong ass races doing absolutely nothing. 11 of the 12 GoDs are a
L different races and yret because of retarded tournament stakes, we will NEVER know anything about them. Hit is still the main gun of U6, I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. Yet Toei decides to waste time jerking off these shit tier characters that aren't even part of the main cast or even the main universe, because they are Saiyans and waifubait.
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>>160567950
Trunks is shit, too.
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>>160567963
Stay mad
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>>160567414
Why the fuck was this ever a thing? The "only a numbskull like Kakarot can use those cells to their fullest" thing was something Toriyama wrote, but then Toei fucked it up with that portal shit. It's ridiculous.
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>>160567070
but your comparing a god that stands above all other gods to a mortal
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>>160567752
>No one likes the three new fucking saiyajins
talking out your ass again, garfield?
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>>160568011
Point still stands. Just because he is fast doesn't mean he can't take a hit.
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>>160567963
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>>160567901
Spoken like a true HIV positive
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>>160567682
It will be shit too but it won't be his fault, this arc is just bad.
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>>160567967
Obviously. If some people have a probable with it now those same problems becomes 10x worse because Toyotaro can't focus on anyone else besides Goku/Vegeta.
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>>160567800
There's no generalizing at all.
This is exactly what's going on.
I'd rather see a few more arcosians, hit's people(please let them be namekians), the metal dude, or the two hidden fighters be humans then see those three wastes of spunk take up one more goddamned ep. And we are going to have to sit through 3 goddamned more eps of them for fucks sake.

>>160567804
1.They were litterally the only SSJs left to be born.
2.It's canon that children sired by powerful saiyajins can have powerful children.
3.Goten was sired by a SSJ goku so him getting SSJ as if it were second nature can be handwaived, trunks getting it because he was sired by a vegetta who had SSJ but couldn't access it makes sense as well.
4.There is a 500% chance that goten might have taught trunks how to do it anyway
5.There is an entire fucking race of saiyajins who have the ability to go SSJ just by mentioning tingles. No half breed human children thing, no legend of it, no nothing.

The sheer logistics of them simply handing over SSJ to U6, a universe with an entire race of saiyajins is mindboggling. It's the most absolutely retarded story telling idea I've ever fucking heard.
There is less then no fucking excuse for it other then someone didn't think it through or simply didn't give enough of a fuck to even think at all and just wanted more saiyajins.
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Seriously what the fuck happened? Suddenly toyofaggots are able to run rampant and now the general consensus here is the manga is suddenly good again? Why, because every other community shits on that piece of crap so /a/ just wants to be different?
Fuck all that, manga is shit you contrarian retards
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>>160566204
So... Goku drugged Buu to take Frieza to the tournament? :P
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>>160568077
Looks like someone has complex emotions!
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>>160567963
>Where the FUCK are the Toeichads? These threads are terrible now, full of toyo dicksuckers and nobody challenging them. What the FUCK?
They left because they realized the anime is actually complete shit after femBroly tanked a Super Saiyan Blue Kamehameha, while Goku was TRYING to push her back, meanwhile the anime more or less fixed the entirety of the Goku Black arc and looked incredible doing it.
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>>160568084
No. CHADjin Buu pretended to be asleep in order to allow him to make his Frieza move. He is one of them.
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>>160566204
I don't care if people get butthurt over Frieza executing a plan to hijack this arc or a future arc. I honestly think his inevitable return as a main villain is great.
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>>160567950
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>>160568058
What are you basing your statement on, exactly? YouTube comments? Here?

It's obvious a huge suave people like these new Saiyan's or else they wouldn't continue to push them.
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what's with freezafags?
why are they so obsessed with this character?
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>all these toeifags falseflagging and butthurt that the thread isnt underage shitflining about canonnity
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>>160568077
Because people can pick up a pile of dog shit and say it's better than that pile of horse shit over there. Anime and manga of Super are both shit. Super is shit because of the dumb ideas, but it has good moments. So it's shit with sprinkles in it.
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>>160567724
>>160567747

I think there are are few things that might not be from Toriyama's outline and it was just Toei messing up.

-All this training and sparring right before the tournament likely was all Toei made in order to extend the arc. If the manga introduces Caulifla already training with Cabba before the tournament's announcement, for example, some of the weird logic jumps of the anime arc would be entirely avoided even though her introduction would be smaller. It could also avoid for example Gohan's huge power jump if he's just prepared already by the time of recruitment. The recent extra character already showed he was training in the gravity chamber, so this might actually happen.

-Although I doubt it, there's a possibility some of these minor fighters are entirely Toei created and so we'll see entirely different ones in the manga.

-Considering the U6 tournament and things like the Mageta battle from the manga compared to the anime one, Toyotaro won't attempt to make dramatic battles out of battles where the protagonists are heavily holding back.

-On the other hand, there's a possibility that in the manga version we won't see stuff like 17 and Gohan keeping up with SSB even if they have powered up.
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Has there been a single good episode in this arc that didn't involve frieza?
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>>160567946
>>160567901
>ugly
THIS is ugly? You're both faggots.
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>>160567682
Of course he can

He's /our guy/
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>>160567752
>>160567804
>*cough* kid trunks and goten
The official explanation is halfbreeds that lack tails access Super Saiyan easier. My theory is Saiyans somehow mated with humanity before they went extinct, and lost their tails that way.
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>>160567963
We just need a ToyoUbermensch to match a Manga Merged Zamasu meets Anime Merged Zamasu.

In the mean time, enjoy some tear gas.
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So do these sales figures mean Dragon Ball Super will probably get cancelled next year? Nobody wants to buy the DVDs / BluRays, everyone is just watching it out of nostalgia but barely cares for the series, and DBS barely helps the sales of other stuff in the Dragon Ball franchise.
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>>160568191
It's the same guy anon
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>>160568077
>Seriously what the fuck happened?
100 episodes of a shitty anime which made people realize Toei is as awful as usual
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http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/148359768
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149975188
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149975220
Threads weren't better in and directly after Zamasu arc they said.
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>>160567984
Tell us, who isn't shit?
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>>160568191
Yeah, that's pretty ugly. And I'm both of those.
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>>160568181
It's not all Toriyama's fault. It's a team effort. And you know it's a team effort when the manga and anime can both be so bad.
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>>160567881
Are you fucking retarded?
When young girls want to see strong feminine women and media aimed at them they FLOCKED to fucking japan.
Why? Because all they had were screeching homely middle aged lesbians and retarded cunts telling them that they're bad and that they should hate men, femininity in general, and go lez because that's good and tough. No seriously.
Take a look at stuff like SU katy perry's single that poker face thing and the so called feminist movement.

Videl was a fucking hateable cunt who had nothing in the way of a likeable personality dude.
She wasn't even hot enough to put up with that shit because the potential hatesex would be mindblowing.
She's sub asuka tier and that takes some fucking doing.
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>>160568222
>implying threads to this day aren't mainly about Zamasu arc
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>>160568077
>Suddenly toyofaggots are able to run rampant and now the general consensus here is the manga is suddenly good again? Why, because every other community shits on that piece of crap so /a/ just wants to be different?
I don't know what communities you go to but here in New York most people I know shit on the anime and love the manga. It's not hard to see why when shit like Super Saiyan Goku Black gets deliberately taken out of the anime by Toei.
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>Mai
>shit

But Vegeta's family is great
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>>160568229
are you just fucking gay or something?
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>>160568224
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>>160568210
The fact that TV-Asahi is moving Kamen Rider to the 9am slot to clash with DBS and Toei isn't kicking up a fuss about it is probably the fat lady getting ready to belt out the funeral march for this series.
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>>160568043
how does your point stand you are comparing a fucking mortal to a deity in terms of durability
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>>160568217
Mai is gorgeous, faggots need to be hung for such statements

>>160568229
literal homosexual
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>>160568283
Skullface is most definitely shit
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>>160568210
>and DBS barely helps the sales of other stuff in the Dragon Ball franchise.
Toei's licensing money from DB doubled ever since Super started doing original stories rather than movie remakes. Currently it's easily their number 1 franchise, beating even One Piece. So, no, at this point, you'd see the One Piece anime ending before DB Super.
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>>160568281
Nope.
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What will Mai and Trunks's children look like?
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aaaaaaaaaaaa I love Goku
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>>160568159
*snicker*
Anon, the top guys will force an entire goddamned company into an early grave to save face and push a certain thing just for their own ego.

They HOPE people will catch on, but the problem is that every ep starring them has done very poorly in ratings.
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>>160568009
well when you think about it, Black never proved Vegeta wrong. He didn't suddenly master all of Goku's other technqiues. he had his little quake of fury and evolved the fighting techniques he had as a Kai rather than the fighting techniques he'd stolen from Goku
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>>160568260
Um, that isn't really what was implied there. Read it again please.
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If Super is so bad why do you keep watching it?
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>>160568077
This shit taste

This is Toeishill's complex emotions made real
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>>160568328
Very cute
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>>160567804
Bad writing does not excuse bad writing. Go fuck yourself.
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>>160568304
Your point is stupid. How does that change anything? Ffs. Make a better argument.
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>>160568317
>at this point, you'd see the One Piece anime ending before DB Super.
ahah... n-nice joke anon...
I havent seen the OP anime in years but i cannot fathom the anime ending when its a cash bash
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>>160568326
Cmon...
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>>160568077
>Suddenly toyofaggots are able to run rampant and now the general consensus here is the manga is suddenly good again? Why, because every other community shits on that piece of crap so /a/ just wants to be different?
Because Toyotaro is actually a decent fucking writer, unlike most of Toei's staff.

Pic related, Toyotaro did everything to how Zamasu becoming what he despised most of all, and Fused Zamasu didn't end up being the weird half-BioBroly half-skinny twink like in the anime.
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>>160568248
Asuka is the ultimate waifu and queen of /a/.

Take your shitty moeblobs back to 9gag
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>>160568058
>Super Saiyan Lamarckism headcanon
Let's not go there.
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Never forget the hypocrisy of Toeishills.

> U mad dat Goku cant beat Krillin? Good, powerlevelfag!

> Muh Hitto got nerfed! Waaaah, he cant fight on par with opponents ten times his strength! He's not even the same character in the manga!
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>>160567714
This desu Shueisha needs to realize that they have a potential huge money maker here.

>All three volumes of Dragon Ball Super's manga adaptation have charted on Oricon's weekly list of the best-selling manga; volumes one and two sold 29,995 and 56,947 copies in their debut weeks respectively. Volume three was the fourth best-selling for its week with 92,114 copies sold. According to Nielsen BookScan, the English version of volume one was the second best-selling graphic novel for May 2017.
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IT'S OVER JIREN!!
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>>160568434
but Wasnt Hit still Blue Level if not higher in the Manga still? or did i interpret that wrong
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>>160568411
Asuka who?
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>>160568352
CUTE ANGELS
SMUG SAIYANS
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>>160568377
Here are the numbers I was talking about. The first ones are Japanese domestic licensing. Just look at how Dragonball suddenly leaps past One Piece.
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>>160567714
Toyo can't handle weekly manga.
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>>160568271
Black being a faggy effiminate girl of a man and having pink hair was all toei.

I fucking knew it.
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>>160568084
was it rape?
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>>160568484
>Dragonball about to swallow the others and Sailor moon
What the fuck, Son Goku really IS a monster
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>>160568468
He dodged a full power SSB Kamehameha but apparently that's not enough to not be a "jobber"
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>>160568210
Nobody gives a shit about dragon ball super in Japan, the only people who give a shit are spics who can't even afford to buy official DBS media and will most likely probably just settle for downloading subs and eventually dubs from the internet. Although the db franchise itself will probably still be going strong for many years to come, dbs looks dead as fuck.
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>>160568468
SSB at full power was above Hit, but Goku would be able to use that power only in a single burst, which is why he waited so long to use it in the right moment and went straight to a Kamehameha to finish the battle. However, in the manga, Hit also had stamina issues since he hadn't used his full power in so long.
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>>160568248
>This motherfucker went after Asuka
Dumbass confirmed.
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>>160568424
It's not head canon.
It's outright stated to be a thing multiple times in the fucking source material.
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>>160568484
>Posting figures from a few days in March 2016
What the fuck anon that's more than a year ago the hype is fucking dead
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>>160568550
Nobody buys official DBS media. Who the fuck pays to watch anime?
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>>160568541
>>160568559
Damn, So Hit holding back his murder tactics and suffering from Time Spamming was still able to handle Goku BLUE on a good level and people COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS?
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>>160568274
They're the best family
>>160568328
>What will Mai and Trunks's children look like?
Pic related, just swap Kid Trunks and Kid Mai hair colors
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>>160568541
Because dodging a ranged attack becomes exponentially easier the farther away you are from it.
It's not impressive in the slightest.
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>>160568468
there's no such thing as 'blue level', only various goku levels of holding back less
Hit is currently 6.9 on the goku scale, just below frieza
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>>160568468
Yes

People for some reason think Hit is a 'jobber' in the manga because the timeskip doesn't do shit to Blue Goku, when it's the only technique Hit used in the fight because he was holding back
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Why are trunks and Gohan so shit, and other universe sayans op as fuck?
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>>160568541
>dat planet shot
The anime is really missing these.
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>>160568673
The only thing being "held back" is my dick from going in your ass.
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>>160568701
Anon, no.
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>>160567881

And yet The Wonder Woman movie was a huge hit world wide..proving that females can work as main protagonists.

In the case Caulifla and Kale keep growing in popularity, i wouldnt be surprised if they have an arc dedicated to them in the future or they become the protagonists ala Boruto...
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>>160568406
>babaris are different each other, no copy pasted designs
It's fucking sad that we should praise Toyo for this. Why is Toei so lazy?
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Golden Frieza when? I want to hear that beautiful theme of his as he BTFO of someone
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>>160568698
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>>160568222
Trips confirm.
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>>160568406

that's some undeniably good pottery and I'd respect your opinion more if you conducted yourself with better composure
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>>160568622
So, does the Alpha Trunks (The one who can call upon the world's power to defeat Gokus) get both Mais in the alternate universe they got tossed in? Also, why didn't Whis drop them in a good end universe or let them stay in the main one? Dropping them in another shit timeline seems like a sick joke.
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>>160567118
(you)
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>>160568434

Manga Hit acted very arrogant, in the anime he was more calm.
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>>160568698
>Toei: Attacks? Looking powerful? lol no let's make SS2 Trunks tank a SSR Black's Kamehameha, that's way better
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>>160566954
Hell Yeah she is!
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>>160567118
>they are pretty realistic
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>>160568406
Dang, that's some good parallels.
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>>160560140
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>>160568812

Base Goku and Vegeta were surviving attacks from Merged Zamasu, and they werent supposed to be God tiers in base unlike the anime.

Toyo fucked up big time, because that was plot shield as big as the saiyan girls have.
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how the fuck does goten's goku-like hair combined with trunk's bulma-like hair result in vegeta-like hair?
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>>160568843
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>>160568406
Yeah, but Toyotaro's take was pretty generic. It lacked Black's entertaining autism from the anime.
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Nobody cares if you like GT. Nobody will stop you from liking GT. Go right ahead.
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>>160568855
Nah you just didn't pay attention.
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>>160567881
>>160568248
>>160568411
>>160568475
Asuka is more popular these days among obssessive otaku audiences than Rei though, all the numbers of fanart, doujins and merchandise point in this direction.
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>>160568781
Before their mutual encounter with Goku, both appeared rather arrogant, looking down on Vegeta and the like. After that encounter, both mellowed out, revealing a more respectful and honorable nature.
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>>160568903
GTxSuper crosover movie when?
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reminder that Sun Wukong is handsome
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reminder that Studio Pierrot is shit
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>>160568598
Huh... can you even read? there are figures there from the 1st quarters of 2014 to 2018.

The only thing that might cause confusion there is that the years are actually fiscal years."Fiscal year ending in", so in this case 1st quarter of 2018 there means 2017 from April to June).
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>>160568733
>And yet The Wonder Woman movie was a huge hit world wide..

Anon...
Action heroine leads, especially gay ones, don't sell. WW doing okay,it did very poorly compared to most other super hero movies even with billions of dollars in advertisement and media manipulation by you know who, doesn't mean that this has or ever will change.

It opened in nearly every fucking theatre in the country and it still got it's shit slapped by twilight.
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Toeishills acting up again? Come back when the anime actually gets actual choreography
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HAHAHA! All they whiners "Super isn't Z! Goku wasn't this dumb in Z! People who like Super don't know what good writing is!"

FIrst: So what?

Second:

Goku let Raditz' tail go.
Goku didn't kill Freeza when he had the chance.
Instead of stepping back when he knew there was a problem with his heart, he just kept fighting.
Goku gave Cell a Senzu bean.
Goku could have warped Cell out and came back if he had moved fast enough.
Vegeta was the one who suggested the Spirit Bomb for Kid Buu when Goku should have thought of it.
And don't even get me started on his fight with Piccolo (Jr.) from Dragon Ball.

You want to talk shit about Super and claim Z was better? Sorry kiddies, but learn your shit before you spew it out next time.

Third: Right, we don't know what good writing is. That's why Super is so popular world wide. There's that many WRONG people. Let's see... appropriate response image.
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>>160568991
Xenoverse 3
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>>160568781
Manga Hit is a bro, he just enjoyed the fight in a non-chuuni way
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>>160568991
this
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>>160569006
And that is relevant to Dragon Ball how?
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>>160569026
yeah, do what Pierrot does
or Gaynax
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>>160568855
>were surviving attacks from Merged Zamasu
It was literally stated that Zamasu was just fucking around before kill them. See >>160568913
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>>160568913
>>160568855
Toeishills are speedreaders. Who could've guessed?
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TOEI
A
FUCKING
SHIT
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>>160568873
Trunks actually has the devil's peak like Vegeta.
He just covers it up well with his hair.
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>>160569151
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>>160569182
>>160569151
>>160569140
>>160569109
>>160569026

Fuck off falseflagger spammer retard
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>>160569140
And the English Dub was supposed to have improved animation.
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>>160569182
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>>160569090
He's probably butthurt because of the "Toei a shit" poster.
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>>160569248
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>>160567724
I trust Greg Weisman. Super would only be 2 seasons long but they would be the best 2 seasons in anime history.
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>>160569206
>Jobgeta attacks an injured, beaten opponent
>Ends up getting his ass killed, regardless
>mfw
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>>160569246
Funimation is not an animation company dumbfuck. They just used the blue rays
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>>160569262
>being butthurt over posts you made yourself

nobody could be that autistic
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>>160568925
They shill her hard as fuck and she's still not as popular as a soulless nigh inanimate doll.
The thing that puts her above the utterly hated character from the original anime?
The new plug suit and less time being a giant bitch on screen. The character has absolutely nothing else going for it.
Think I'm shitting?
There's a reason why Rei and...the other one didn't have similar plug suits.
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>>160569236
*claps*
TOEI A SHIT
A
S
H
I
T
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Always I think on fusions' hairstyle I feel bad for Vegetto's
His bangs were great at his first panel but then every other panel had him with more similar bangs, instead the original larger bang which was far cooler.
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Leave the fat lady to me.
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>>160568913

If Toyo was using Z logic, Vegeta shouldve died after 1 hit, but I guess the lolholding back exist in the manga too.

It means its part of Toriyamas outline.
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>>160569282
Nobody blamed Funimation, retard. Nobody said it wasn't the DVDs.... retard. The animation being this bad in the English Dub is proof of Toei's ineptitude.
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>>160569304
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>>160569296
>the other one
Kaworu?
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>>160569262
>says while asshurt about "Studio Pierrot is shit"
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>>160568990

In the manga he was acting more surprised than in the anime, thats an issue with Toyo, the antagonists tend to overeact way too much.
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>>160569325
>characters don't fuck around with base form
>only an enemy who wants make them suffering would not one shot them if they are fighting in base
He's using the logic of the original manga (what you call "Z logic").
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>>160569360
It being dubbed has nothing to do with animation quality. Toei is not associated with the production of eng dubs
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>>160569366
SAME STUDIO
SAME QUALITY
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HOLY
SHIT
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>>160569432
stay on topic
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>>160569325
Z Antagonists constantly tortured their weaker opponents.

Take 50% Freeza beating the shit out of Piccolo after he interfered to buy Goku time, for instance, or the Cell Jr. gang kicking around the humans.
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>>160569383
dude that's fluid like naoki tate
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sopa de estudio perriot e uma delicia
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>>160569412

That was when the gap was smaller and it was more logical.

In this one, its fake tension like with the saiyan girls.

I guess u guys think Toyotaro is the 2nd coming of Togashi right?

Hilarious.
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since there's clearly nobody here who wants to talk about dragon ball super, what are your thoughts on urobutcher's upcoming Hellstar Godzilla movie?
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>>160569461
kay
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>>160569449
Yep.
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>>160569428
Who "cleaned up" the animation for the DVDs? Yes, the English Dub is supposed to have higher quality and better animation than the Japanese version. Because it used the DVDs. The animation still being this horrible is propf of how inept Toei is if the improved version still looks like this.
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>>160569463

>Take 50% Freeza beating the shit out of Piccolo after he interfered to buy Goku time

That was filler.
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>>160569484
Vegeta isn't in base because he's holding back though, he's in base because he has little power by that point. Caulifla had no reason to be in base while beaten up in the recent episode. Completely different situations.
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Anyone recommend any new anime/manga coming soon? DBS threads are too shitty of a reason to keep coming to /a/.
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>>160569500
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>>160569468

Where is the "Naruto you are kinda cool"? That was bad as Derpy Trunks after the Father/Son Garlick Gun.
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reminder that in 8 hours the NEET burgers go back to sleep and the threads become good again
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>>160569484
>That was when the gap was smaller
Nice excuse, toeidog. I wonder why you don't cry when kid Boo was toying with BASE Vegeta after humiliate his SS2 form.
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Toei a shit
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>>160569575
but that would be at like 6 AM
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>>160569556
>wanting reasons to keep coming to /a/
go. be free. leave this place and never look back.
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>>160569484
The gap between transformed and base saiyans is very small now. We have had many lines on both, the show and manga, about this. About how Goku and Vegeta have peaked and there isn't much of anywhere to go or about how they have attained power in base form that makes many of their old transformations obsolete.
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>>160569565
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>>160569618
Not as bad as GameFUQS.
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>>160569588
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>>160569605
that's when most NEET's go to bed. too much caffiene, you see.
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>>160568913

First he said he wanted to kill them as soon as possible, then he changed his mind to torture them because Vegeta was provoking him.

Manga Zamasu overall was very generic, Xicor had least was kinda funny in DBAF.
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>>160569644
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>>160569666
>Xicor had least was kinda funny in DBAF.
He was pretty generic too.
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>>160569629

And there are still dumbasses who think that SSJ is supposed to be 50x than base.
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studio pierrot is fucking shit
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>>160569632
>>160569681
>>160569757
I don't remember Naruto looking this bad
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>>160569629
>>160569750
The fuck are you even saying?
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>>160569812
>Pedro that doesn't even understand english
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>>160569730

He had more charisma than Manga Black and Zamasu
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>>160569812
at his current level of kung fu, going super saiyan is only a minor buff to goku's base form rather than an enormous buff like when he first got it. goku has learned to do in his base form just about everything he used to need super saiyan to do, in term of speed and strength
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these threads are so much nicer with an IP filter turned on
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>>160569383
That's good animation though. Very stylistic and not very Naruto, but it's damn good animation. I'm not even a Narutofag.
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>>160558832
Can we all agree Heroes is literally just the fucking worse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTekKBbc6pI
this shit seems possible with Heroes
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>>160570030
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>>160569629
No, it's not. Did you even read or watch Vegeta against Cabba?
Also, the attaining power in base form that makes their ordinary syper saiyan transformations obsolete was a plot point Toriyama inserted in the Ressurection F manga (that in actuality began before the film's debut) and in there it's explained that Goku and Vegeta both "absorb" their SSG power into their base, making it so that the only super saiyan form they can even go from there is SSB itself. That's why Goku fights Final form Freeza in the movie and its arc in Super and then goes straight to SSB against Golden Freeza.

Super itself didn't use the concept in neither anime nor manga, which does leave problems seeing as RoF is canon to both and is directly included (sans the explanation) in the Super anime.
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>>160569992
Heroes is a cash in arcade game that apparently doesn't even have gameplay.
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>>160569975
What's an ip filter
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>>160569033
z's still better
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>>160569987
>Very stylistic
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>>160569809
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>>160567682
he couldn't save the future trunks saga but who knows maybe
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>>160569975
Is it even possible to filter IPs? These threads would become heaven.
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>>160561573
Most power level issues solve themselves when you realize that numerical PL only has a non-linear scale on actual power level.
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>>160569992
that theme is fucking 10/10 though
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>>160570202
Oh yes he did, Toei handled that arc fucking terribly.
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>>160569927
>*Headcanon intensifies*

What qualifies as a "minor buff" to you? Toei already confirmed that SS2, at least, provides a boost tens of times over, entirely in line with the power-up it's canonically supposed to provide.
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>>160569992
How is it worse when you can do crazy shit like this?
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>>160569033
It was stated in that battle Raditz could let go of his own tail and escape though, and it did happen in Goku vs grandpa Gohan in their spar (in retrospect onlt given how that wasn't explicitly shown at the time).

Also, Goku cockblocking Kami from killing Piccolo only because of his overconfident self thinking he could defeat him any time if it came to it has to figure in that list. But muh dragon balls is no excuse for that and Goku not disposing of Piccolo at the time was excplicitly about him in his fight autism wanting to preserve the one strong fighter that was near his level at the time.
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>>160567682
No. It's already been proven if you want the good version you have to wait for Xenoverse cutscenes.
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>>160570270
no he didn't it ended the same retarded way that the anime dragon ball super was a mistake
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>>160570270
Agreed.

Toyo's only mistake was fleshing out Trunks' backstory and wasting a tad too many pages for SoL scenes with him on Earth, even though he shouldn't have been in the mental state to play video games.

If Toyo just used those pages to flesh out Zamasu and Black, adding a great deal of tension along the way, his rendition would've been perfect.
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>>160570506
The ending was part of the outline, dumbass. Neither Toei nor Toyotaro can change it. If anything, you should blame Toriyama for that.
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>>160570506
What, with the universe being deleted? You can only blame Toriyama, in that case.
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>>160570411
>Went down from increasing power HUNDREDS of times to TENS of times
>T-t-transformations have not lost power
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>>160570580
>HUNDREDS of times
Nice headcanon, tell me where was it stated SS2 was a multiplier of 100, 200 or anything else really.
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>>160559213
Son Goku is beautiful poster is the only poster here who actually belongs.
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>>160570030
>>160570030
>>160570030
migrate
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>>160570531
>Trunks' backstory
>SoL scenes with him on Earth
Nah, I enjoyed these things. About the video game thing, you could also say that in the anime he shouldn't have been in the mental state to eat ice cream with Gohan either. I agree that he should've fleshed out Zamasu/Black more, though.
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>>160570580
"Tens of times" doesn't mean ten times over, you invalid. It means anywhere from ten to one hundred times over.
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>>160570650
If you're a newfag who's only been here since the current arc started, then yeah sure.
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>>160570411
considering Goku's standard kamehameha was a x3 boost in itself way back in the fight against raditz, a mere 10x boost is something to sneeze at
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>>160570702
Exactly, down from 100 to 1000, to 10 to 100. It's an entire order of magnitude.
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>>160570814
SS2 was only supposed to be 100x base, though. It could never be described as "hundred(s) of times over."
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>>160570552
>>160570568
thats what im saying toriyama is senile at this point and not having editors around to contain him from doing stupid things will only make things worse onwards
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>>160570681
Fair enough. I can understand why you enjoyed you.

I just think that sacrificing those scenes would've been worth fleshing out our antagonists, if that were our only options.
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>>160570531
>Trunks' backstory
>SoL scenes
>"mistakes"

Kys
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>>160570797
There's a difference between a technique's multiplier (ergo, Piccolo's Demon Drill Beam being able to kill someone roughly 3-5 times his superior) and a transformation's.

SS2 was only supposed to be twice as powerful as SS1, going by that databook this discussion is centered around. That 2x boost allowed Gohan bring Cell to a critical state with but a few blows despite the fact that SS1 Gohan was being crushed by a suppressed Cell's bearhug.
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>>160568304

Well, Hit falls in the Lightning Bruiser trope.
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>>160571389
>Tropes
Use your own knowledge.
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