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Find a flaw. This is the most innovative battle shounen

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Find a flaw.

This is the most innovative battle shounen of the past 20 years.
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>>160263902
>Bnha
>Innovate

In what way? Not even trolling, just curious in what you find innovate in this series
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>>160263902
Boring powers
Underdeveloped setting
Shit protagonist
Obnoxious fanbase
Author letting characters live because they're populars
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Just wait few more years, it will turn to another Naruto or Bleach. It wont survive the pressure of being the next Jump's great battle shounen.
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Innovative is not the word I'd use.
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>>160263902
It's generic as fuck, what are you on about? Even its fans bill it as "generic battle shounen done right" and shit like that. Nothing innovative about it.
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>>160264355
The fans are retarded and praise it for doing clichés right and for supposedly avoiding clichés at the same time.
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I know this is bait, but since this thread will most likely reach bump limit I'll just post this here.
BNHA is fairly solid, but it still is shonen (read generic).
Its strong points are good characters and artistic consistency. Generally with a cookie-cutter plot that doesn't offend or drag too much. The overarching story is interesting enough and there is a lot of potential for good developments.
Its weak points are that it still refuses to step out of the shonen mold. Meaning that it will never be more. It's shackled by both its author and WSJ conventions. It doesn't do anything special or out of the box, it just (for now) does the shonen formula much better than most.
This could easily degenerate into power creep, lack of plot progress or a too large cast as time goes on. It's still in the initial honneymoon phase of shonen so it's easy to say it's better when it has achieved very little.

It has all the makings of being a successor to the big 3. That's not a compliment to it, it just means it will eat up the shonen slot for the foreseeable future.
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>>160264513
It's called deconstruction moron
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>>160264520
I agree with what you're saying, but there is a high ceiling of enjoyment for just "shounen done right" so though it's technically constraint, it really isn't much of one.

Especially since lots of shounen these days just fucking suck and I'm pretty sure even people who enjoyed the majority of Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tale have a bad taste in their mouth at this point.

BNHA is so great because it's not only shounen done right, but it's something that people who grew up on Naruto/Bleach have wanted for a decade or so: a shounen that can have good/great moments without constantly disappoint in other regards
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DON'T ANSWER
IT'S BAIT
IT'S THE SAME FUCKER WHO MADE THE "BNHA IS THE WORST SHIT" BUT HE IS CRAZY
HE ONLY WANT YOUR (YOU)S
DON'T REPLY
IGNORE AND RUN
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>>160263902
It's a battle shounen.
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>>160264671
Except BNHA is absolute garbage faggot
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>>160264025
This
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>>160264653
>deconstruction
Is this word a meme now?
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>>160264909
Pretty much this
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>>160265107
>now?
hownew.ru
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muh deconstruction loool, your fanbse is cancer, this show is just naruto with a different overlay.
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>>160265162
How is this even similar to naruto at all you mongoloid
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Nothing unique about this generic shit show. The setting is shit and limited, deconstruction is a meme because of this fanbase, even though it follows all the shonen cliches. "muh mc is smart and doesnt always win" just like goku didn't always win or Naruto or Gon etc etc. wtf are they on about.
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>>160265279
off the top of my head I can't think of a fight that Naruto didn't win.
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>>160265279
Tell'em
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>>160265350
Naruto vs sasigayu
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>>160265279
>muh mc is smart cliche
goku and naruto are painfully retarded.
>mc doesnt always win
that's as much a cliche as characters that breathe air is a cliche.

Though I agree theres nothing unique about hero academia, you just kinda went on a dumb rant there.
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>>160265279

Your right about that, this show as all the cliches but they keep using the word deconstruction LOL. The mc literally got given the most powerful quirk. Sure he cant use it now, but just sub out quirk for kyubi or hollow or potential etc lol no difference
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>>160265471
>that's as much a cliche as characters that breathe air is a cliche.

But BNH fags keep using it as an example of deconstruction.Holy shit my sides LOL
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>>160265519
>Holy shit my sides LOL
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MUH DECONSTRUCTION
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjH2YHvP1Q

BNH fags in a nutshell
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>>160263902
It has a lot going for it and I'm glad it's popular but it's still pretty generic.
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BnHA is truly the Eva of this generation. Eva used to bring a lot of debates to the table to because it was controversial.
However, a decade later everyone will look back at BnHA and realize that it's a timeless classic, just like Eva did.
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>>160264520
>good characters
the two mains are legitimately worse versions of naruto and sasuke
>l'm a loser and you're not therefore let me passionately suck your cock despite the fact you treat me like dogshit, l have negative levels of testosterone btw
>reeeeeee l'm triggered by the fact your desire to better yourself threatens my retarded superiority complex, also l'm the worst character in the series and the most popular one this should tell you something about the fanbase!
l give it 100 chapters top before it gets into naruto/bleach/fairy tail levels of shit
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>>160266529
If you're being this much of a contrarian no one can help you. Neither of the descriptions you gave fits the main and his "rival".
Just let the thread die. We get it: You don't like BNHA.
Oh and fyi, Bakugou was designed to be unlikable.
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MUH DECONSTRUCTION
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>>160266604
>If you're being this much of a contrarian
you're a stupid fucking faggot
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>>160266604
>Bakugou was designed to be unlikable.
>i-it's shit on purpose!!!
the absolute state of bnhafags
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>>160266687
Literally kill yourself.
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>>160266604
>oh and fyi, I'm a huge cocksucking faggot.
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>>160266663
>>160266687
>being this contrarian
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>>160263902
>Find a flaw
>Shounen shit
Obvious flaw is obvious
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>>160266828
what do you watch then?
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>>160266828
Why put a comic in gif format, just makes me frustrated it's so fucking slow.
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>Characters are wooden

>Generally speaking, the plot of the show is standard at best.

>Predictable and poorly executed most of the time

>Easily one of the more generic shonens we've seen in the last 5 years

I say all of this and I still love the series. The animation is great and its entertaining enough. Just don't go around calling shit flawless.
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>>160266828
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>>160266842
Blessed yuri
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>>160263902
Nobody dies.
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It's an effective shonen but no way it's innovative. OPM is more innovative than this.
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>>160267139
>OPM
>innovative
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>>160266866
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>>160263902
It's a filler fiesta after AFO Vs. AM.
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>>160267242
>Being this much in denial
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>>160267278
What's going on is still pretty interesting. That mini arc when they were in the forest was kind of boring though
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>Innovative
It's fucking Naruto with capeshit

It is the ANTITHESIS of innovation
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>>160267242
It's not?
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>>160267303
>>160267487
>One
>Joke
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>>160267530
If you actually read further on in the manga you'd realize OPM does a lot of neat concepts other than "one joke" which is what you detractors bring up on a consistent basis.
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>>160266261
Oops sorry I meant to say Re:Zero
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>>160264025
>Boring powers
Subjective, just because the majority of people in-universe aren't reality busters like in other shonen anime doesn't mean they're bad, if anything you can make an argument that it means the action is more grounded.
>Underdeveloped setting
True, there are a lot of questions about why exactly the world is like it is that are only vaguely hinted at in the background.
>Shit protagonist
Subjective, I like Midoriya because he's a breath of fresh air, I like him because he's timid without being a boring self-insert, and he's also more itnelligent and wise than the average shonen protagonist.
>Obnoxious fanbase
Irrelevent.
>Author letting characters live because they're populars
It's an optimistic setting, which means edgy shit is less likely to happen. It's a world in which their is an entire profession of heroism and things generally work out okay in the end, that doesn't make it bad, it just means you won't like it if you're bloodthirsty and hardcore.
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>>160267560
>OPM does a lot of neat concepts
Not really. Its incredibly standard and what's once becomes the very thing its making fun of.
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>>160267602
>I like him because he's timid without being a boring self-insert
there's absolutely nothing interesting about him except when he breaks every bone in his body, and his development means he won't do it anymore
>low status faggot gets granted game breaking power by his mentor, has asshole genius rival, literal who heroine in love with him
"breath of fresh air" holy shit
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>>160267637
You either die a hero or..
HEY!
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>>160263902
Naruto was more innovative than this piece of shit.
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>>160267656
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This is not even about BnHA, but what's with all these idiots who equate shonen (a demographic) with being generic? In a broad sense this can be applied to the whole medium of manga, where there was only a single innovative author: Osamu Tezuka.
It seems to me it's just easier for you to bash the whole genre, instead of coming up with some legitimate criticism. Although there are some valid complaints, even in this thread, but usually hidden inbetween memes and buzzwords.
There's this guy >>160264520 who makes some good points, but at the same time falls into the 'it's published in WSJ, therefore it cannot be good' way of thinking, deducting points for pedigree and projected developments.
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>>160267773
It's because literally every shonen that ever gets popular is published weekly.
Weekly publishing means that authors have very little room for brainstorming, they have to think of where the story goes in maybe an afternoon, and then the rest of their time is spent drawing.

Magazines like WSJ are cancer that stifle the creativity of creators
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>>160263902
>innovative

Name a single unique thing it does differently that hasn't already been done by another shonuen.
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>>160267773
Well it wasn't really about it being published in WSJ, but the combo of that plus the author refusing to take risks.
Doesn't help either that Hori isn't dealing well with the scheduling, but I'll take it over anything remotely like Kubo.
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>>160267656
>there's absolutely nothing interesting about him except when he breaks every bone in his body, and his development means he won't do it anymore
READ
THE
MANGA
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>>160267656
>there's absolutely nothing interesting about him except
My favorite part about his character is his analysis. If you took his character and dropped him into, let's say, World Trigger, he'd be a god. I actually find the bone-breaking thing to be the MOST boring thing about him, because as you said, they can only ride that train for so long without getting hacky.

>low status faggot gets granted game breaking power by his mentor, has asshole genius rival, literal who heroine in love with him
People are okay with these things being similar because they're being done better or "right". The so-called "heroine" in this series gets actual development and even chooses to put her feelings to the side. Feelings which aren't even clear to her. Is it love or adoration? The details matter. Most things are shit if you boil them down to their base concepts. How the writer spruces them up is where quality comes in.

>>160267845
>He thinks it's all made up on the fly
Have you seen Oda's notebooks for arcs. He at least plans months ahead far enough even that he drunkenly leaked plot details to an acquaintance who leaked it like 6 months early.
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>>160267918
>take risks.
You mean not fucking up his story like Kubo and Kishimoto did?
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>>160267845
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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>>160267845
On the other end of the spectrum we have monthly/quarterly publications where writers still do not manage to stay on schedule. If anything, some time constraints are needed, unless you want to see a chapter of a manga released once a year - and without guarantee it will be something absolutely amazing.
The French managed to create a robust and unique comic scene while publishing their best works in magazines.

>>160267918
This makes a little more sense, but 'not taking risks' shouldn't really be considered a flaw, unless one is jaded and is looking for new stimuli. But even then it's a problem with the reader who should probably try a different medium of storytelling.
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>>160267637
>Its incredibly standard and what's once becomes the very thing its making fun of
Care to explain more?
The only way I can see OPM becoming the thing that it's making fun of is saitama losing his power
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>>160268119
You're actually implying Kubo and Kishi took risks?
No they got lazy and jaded and pretty much fucked up because they stopped giving a shit.
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>>160268246
>You're actually implying Kubo and Kishi took risks?
Having the rival join the dark side? Pushing the MC to the background so that an unpopular scientist chracter get more screentime than him in the final arc? Terrible decisions all around but they were risky.
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>>160268235
You know there's more conventions in that genre other than that right?
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>>160268297
Well I guess in the same way that shooting yourself in the foot is risky.
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>>160266881
Can't even argue him
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>>160267656
Too cuck-ish for my taste
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>>160268325
Exactly. It doesn't help that Sasuke was a very popular character and the whole thing could have backfired (in terms of popularity) but it didn't.
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>>160268235
Look at Garo, look at the recent chapter where One clearly shows the difference between his mindset and Saitama's, look at the way the martial arts tournament ended.

OPM is STILL doing interesting subversions of shonen, it's just not as obvious anymore.
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>>160268379
Sasuke joining the villain faction wasn't risky at all because his fans are all edgelords or fujos and Team Taka fueled both of their desires.
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>>160268428
>subversion of shonen
>Garo
>the martial arts tournament
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>>160268495
>Picks out a couple of buzzwords instead of replying
Am I on /pol/ now or something?#
I thought /a/ was the best board on 4chan.
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>>160268428
>Garo
Is literally fucking Vegeta only less interesting

>look at the way the martial arts tournament ended.

A tournament arc that gets interrrupted in the final round! What a subversion!
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>>160263902
in super hero world , super hero name should be hard to pick , because most of the name already taken by someone else .
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>>160268473
>Sasuke joining the villain faction wasn't risky at all
Of course it was, it could have backfired and made people drop the manga
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To the fans of this series, what does it do better compared to series like HxH, Jojo, Naruto, One Piece and Bleach? Everyone seems to love this show, but people universally agree (even the fans) that this show is pretty generic. Generic isn't a bad thing inherently, but i've read all the series I mentioned above, and greatly enjoyed some while not so much others. So if I've seen things done better in another series, I probably won't be interested by this series. What are the strengths and weaknesses of BHA?
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>>160268620
No.
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>>160267602
>It's an optimistic setting, which means edgy shit is less likely to happen. It's a world in which their is an entire profession of heroism and things generally work out okay in the end, that doesn't make it bad, it just means you won't like it if you're bloodthirsty and hardcore.
AHHAHAHA what a fucking retard
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>>160268327
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>>160268673
Do you have anything you actually want to say, or are you just making an ass of yourself?
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>>160268539
It wasn't interrupted, Saitama's toupee was blown off and he was disqualified
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>>160268622
Pros
•Character Designs (including powers)
•Great Setting
•Side Character Management
•Well written villains
•Character emotions are written well

Cons
•Despite the current theme of "Even if you know the right thing to do, you're too weak to carry it out" Deku carries it out any way with minimal to zero consequences
•It feels like it's taking too long for Deku to get a hold on One for All
•Too much lineage shit. I know Japan has a hard on for that shit for some reason but I want Deku to ditch the All Might brand and become his own hero
•World building could be a bit better but this rc is actually working on that
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>>160268539
>Is literally fucking Vegeta
How?
>A tournament arc that gets interrrupted in the final round!
It didn't get interrupted in the final round but after it finished in a short time when saitama ran away , and this is something I haven't seen in any other shonen. Actually almost every single fight was different than and other tournament arc
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>>160268874
>Too much lineage shit.
I am dropping this shit instantaneously if it's revealed that Deku's dad is a fucking god or whatever.
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>>160268495
So... What are you trying to say?
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>>160268912
Honestly I giggled my ass off when I heard both Ichigo's parents were special snowflakes.
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>>160263902
>naruto with superheroes instead ninjas
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>>160268874
>It feels like it's taking too long for Deku to get a hold of One for All
That's fine seeing as One for All is the strongest quirk, essentially the level cap
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So when will deku starts fighting aliens?
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>OP falseflagging out the ass
>"People will be smart enough to see that OP is falseflagging, right?"
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>>160268874
From what little I have seen, I do like the character designs. Side character management is very important to me, Naruto and Bleach struggled with this and greatly hindered my enjoyment of them. The cons you listed are things I think I can tolerate. I'm probably gonna start reading it soon. How's the anime? Does it skip many things? The only thing I'm concerned about is the school setting. Quite frankly, it sounds very dull. Does it play a big factor in the series?
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>>160269123
The reason BnHA is getting bandwagoned so hard right now is because its anime adaptation is top notch.
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So, this is what the MP100 and OPM fanbase of /a/ has attached themselves to after the other two failed.
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>>160269066
When he travels to America and the president gives a special mission in Texas.
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>>160269197
>being this contrarian
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>>160269066
When the writer run out of ideas so ... 50 chapters or so
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>>160268905
>and this is something I haven't seen in any other shonen
.....Kinnikuman did this...twice
>>160268905
>Actually almost every single fight was different than and other tournament arc
oh wait you're serious
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>>160269230
I'm really interested to see what happens to the Yakuza after this arc. It makes sense for them to fail and get abolished with Shigaraki being the future big bad. Hori has to write them out at some point so he can shine so I foresee Shigaraki backstabbing Overhaul. Shit, Twice and Toga might be a part of that.
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>>160269197
>One Fan Man
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>>160269316
>kinnikuman
We get it. You're old as shit so you see patterns where younger people might not since they haven't read as much shit over their significantly shorter lifespans. Get OVER it. Instead of ragging on this for being repetitive, maybe point people toward things you think are better. At least that's constructive.
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>>160269197
>So, this is what the MP100 and OPM fanbase of /a/ has attached themselves to after the other two failed
OPM anime didn't fail ,as far as I remember the BD sales were 10k which is pretty good.
And not every OPM fan is mob psycho fan and not every OPM & MB fan is a fucking BNH fan
Hell , I'm OPM fan and whenever I see BNH & MB thread I shitpost about them
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>>160268874
>Deku carries it out any way with minimal to zero consequences
I love this meme
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>>160269316
>oh wait you're serious
Name one (1) fight in the tournament that is similar to shonen tournament fights
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>>160269401
How can you say something is a subversion when its built on the tropes of yesteryear that's been done already.
>>160269461
Every fight that wasn't Saitama's in fact I'll say that the fights here were less interesting than an average tournament arc
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>>160269066
The real question is when will he start fighting zombies
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>>160269533
>Every fight that wasn't Saitama's
Such as?
>in fact I'll say that the fights here were less interesting than an average tournament arc
Yeah that's like, just your opinion.
I would say that You probably enjoyed BNH's tournament arc
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>>160269600
>Such as?
Max vs Lin Lin
>I would say that You probably enjoyed BNH's tournament arc
I did. So?
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>>160269658
>I did. So?
I'm sorry for arguing with you
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>>160269755
Don't be. Because all you did was prove that OPMfags say every aspect of the manga is good and a subversion when its not.
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need I say more ?
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>>160269443
Deku does what he wants and it always turns out to be the best course of action and nobody other than him gets hurt because of it. Deku is fucking body up, sure, but all his calls have been the right ones and he gets in over his head and gets dug out with a positive outcome. He needs a real loss of some kind (not a death). Maybe someone else gets majorly physically scarred for one of his madman episodes.
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>>160269853
>noone uttered another word. I knew I had won the thread. I was satisfied. kubo-dono was well represented that day
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>>160263902
Naruto S1>>>>>shit>bnha>HXH

This is the only objective modern shounen rating. Any other tastes is pure under age garbage.
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>>160267600
Proofread your shitposting, bucko.
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>>160269793
Says the BNHfag
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Shits boring. It was entertaining for awhile but after All Might vs. AfO nothing interesting has taken place except the Deku vs. Baku fight. Other shonen series had the decency to peak early on so you could drop it after that point but bnha is starting to drag without reaching a peak that matched Naruto's or even Bleach's peak.
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>>160263902
Toriko
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Hideout Raid babbies are disgusting.
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the arcs are shity and every time the same shit
school setting
villains are 1D,
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>>160270081
>Being a narutard
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>>160271025
Whatever tard you are
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>>160263902

Same with Bleach, too many characters that the author focuses on and each time they prove to be more interesting than the MC.

World building is also done at a shitty pace. We hardly know anything about the setting other than what happens at UA.
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MUH SUBVERSION, Oh my deconstruction
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All might vs AFO >Mureum vs Netero
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>>160271159
>too many characters that the author focuses on and each time they prove to be more interesting than the MC.
Did you even watch Bleach? Because its problem is that it didn't give much focus or development to anything.
> We hardly know anything about the setting other than what happens at UA.
Wow..its almost like this manga is called My Hero Academia not My Hero World
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how a capeshit magic school can be any good?
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>>160268912
I agree with this, we had enough of it already, everyone is fucking special blodded or something.
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>>160264025
Midoriya is the most intelligent shounen protagonist in the past 30 years. Prove me wrong
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>>160272222
Probably by being good.
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>>160270081
This
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>>160269855
Except for the fact that he got himself injured and Bakugou still got captured , saving Kouta only ever amounted to was convincing his mother to let him stay at UA and his presence during the Hideout arc wasn't necessary since the pros were able to handle thing themselves he just made AM's fight easier by getting Bakugou out of the way. Even in this arc we see that his call isn't the right way of doing things even if its the one you'd expect from a hero.
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>>160272246
He's also the biggest cuck protag ever.

>Bakugo bullies him for years
>S-S-Sorry Bakugo
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>>160263902
All Might is the best character and I'm afraid he's been shafted into uselessness. He's gonna go snooping around for info about Shigaraki and die, or get someone else killed in the process and have an existential crisis. These are fates undeserved of the best girl
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>>160272761
He pretty much has to die, he is a mentor figure in the post-Obi Wan age.
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>>160263902
all the female characters are underdeveloped and under utilized. I know this is a shounen but geez.
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>>160272159

>Because its problem is that it didn't give much focus or development to anything

You just rephrased the first part of the comment.

>Wow..its almost like this manga is called My Hero Academia not My Hero World

They should never be allowed to leave the place then.
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>>160272883
>You just rephrased the first part of the comment.
No you said he focused too much on everyone outside the MC which is bullshit because he didn't give a great deal amount of focus in them to begin with. Too many characters, is about the stupidest complaint you can make for a shounen series since all of them have big casts for the most part.

>They should never be allowed to leave the place then.
That's incredibly stupid logic. We get all we about the setting in the first chapter everything else is supplementary
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>>160272883
>You just rephrased the first part of the comment.
>>160271159
>too many characters that the author focuses on and each time they prove to be more interesting than the MC.

That's not nowhere near what you stated, hell Bleach's cast was smaller than Naruto's and yet it has too many characters? The second part doesn't even apply to MHA to begin with.
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>>160272246
He fell for Mindrape's taunt despite being especially warned not to.

He almost got himself and his sidekicks killed by AfO by trying to rush to rescue Bakugou and Iida had to stop him.
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>>160272645
>cuck
Yeah this guy's opinion is worth paying attention to.
>>160273184
>I didn't read the manga
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>>160273259
>I didn't read the manga
I dropped this shit a few months ago, what did I get wrong?
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>>160263902
It's dull shit for 10-year olds.
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>>160263902
innovative ≠ flawless, bud.

That said it is pretty fucking good.
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>>160263902
No, not at all. BnHA doesn't innovate in any way. It's completely by the book and the only reason it's successful is because nips don't care about it being generic, and previous classic shonen manga like DB and Naruto shit the bed. The only thing BnHA has going for it is consistency, it'll never feed you bullshit like Saiyans to prolong the story.
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>>160263902
>really REALLY want to be a superhero
>never did jackshit to achieve that goal, physically weaker than pretty much anyone
>get the strongest superpower for free but too dumb to use it
Whats the point of this retarded main character.
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>>160263902
I love it, for some reason it reminds me of all the capeshit disney has been pulling through my troath and it has a mix of naruto too...what a coincidence right? its like the author seized the oportunity to write this manga thanks to the popularity of capeshit, but that can't be, right?
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>>160273605
Oh look its THIS retard again
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>>160273605
Doesn't this like sum up the plot of Steven universe
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>>160273259

It's true though.

>Bakugo punches and wails of izuku for years
>Izuku response every time: S-s-s-sorry

Being so submissive like that can very much be consider a negative character trait.
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>>160264025
What do you think of as "fun powers"?
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>>160263902
>battle shonen with actual battles
>innovative
Manga/Anime like shokugeki no souma or bakuman are innovative battle shonen. This is not.
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>>160274175
Something else besides
>get strogner XD
>get fatser XD
>get htoter XD
>get cloder XD
>get ahrder XD
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>>160273422
I'm waiting btw
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>>160274281
>Manga/Anime like shokugeki no souma or bakuman are innovative battle shonen
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>>160274053
Hit too close to home?
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>>160263902
Slightly too many flashbacks. And that one horrible song sung by some black guy(?)
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>>160274418
There is a dude in the manga that can turn people into meatballs
he got like 2 chapters of screentime because Hori is retarded
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>>160273575
>the only reason it's successful is because nips don't care about it being generic
It's successful because 12-year olds read SJ.
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My opinion on BnHA is that it's very solid in the current moment but I expect that it will start to collapse little by little as all long running shonen do.

The good is basically the characters, yada yada, everyone in this thread has said everything I need too

The (current) bad is really two things that give me fear for the manga's future. The first is the continuous inclusion of more good sided characters. That means more wasted time on their inevitable "development" while the main cast of 1-A is already so huge they could go the entire series just using them. The seniors they just introduced are the prime example, especially suneater. Le Million could have been introduced much later as a single character and he would have been fine, but so soon and with 2 others we dont care about is annoying.
Finally the pacing has been really good for the beginning but recently I've become scared that time should be moving a little faster. Were on Chapter 150 and we haven't sent them to sophmore year despite so much happening. They really should move forward soon or else the progression is going to be off and it will be forced to use the "timeskip" trope to make us think things have happened.
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>>160275216
>The good is basically the characters, yada yada,
The MC is shit and all the secondary cast are Yes men for him. Take off your fanboy google.
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>>160275376
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>>160275376
Pretty much this
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>>160274418
But there are loads of other ones than those
There's like four people who with your discription
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>>160275639
You can stop agreeing with yourself now
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>>160275559
He's right. You're the cancer.
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>>160275691
Do I have to bother taking a screencap so you can pretend you were pretending to be a little faggot or do you want to do it right now?
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>>160275216
I don't think most people want or need most of 1A to be developed such as Kouda and Sato, as they are not very stand out characters. I am actually glad The Big 3 were introduced as it finally shows some interaction with other years. The Suneater development was good as it showed us what 3 years in UA can provide for 1A.
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Midnight is ___
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>>160263902
Fuck off underage
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>>160275834
A pedophile.
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>>160272070
Meurem vs netero is way bottom tier to be even comparable.
There are lot of better fights, for one volley ball match, four armed hulky ant fight.
Pokemon has better fights than netero vs meurem
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>>160266604
I actually like BNHA and he's right, to be honest. The Deku-Bakugo rivalry and Bakugo in general are terribly-written.
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>>160277000
>Meurem vs netero is way bottom tier to be even comparable
>Pokemon has better fights than netero vs meurem
I know that BNHfags are retarded but never have I expect to be this level of retardation
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>>160269535
Already happened in an OVA
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>>160277136
They genuinely believe Luffy and Deku have the same level of diversity in their attacks.
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>>160277000
I don't even like the Chimera Ant arc but Meruem vs Netero blows away anything in boku no hero academia
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it's a deconstruction idiots
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>>160277690
Oh yeah, you're the fag that got BTFO in that thread. I can't believe you saved that image.
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>>160279341
>Got BTFO

The funny thing is that since I posted a screencap of it anyoen can go there and see how you're wrong.

Unless you think getting yelled at by lot of fans who would shit on their mother before admitting that their favorite author is wrong count as a BTFO.
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>>160280127
But nobody admitted anything. You just kept screaming NO U constantly while everyone systematically destroyed your stance over and over again. You probably shouldn't have used a character who's whole moveset involves punching to counter a claim that another character has no variety
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>>160277136
but he's right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JpmScfGDtU
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>>160268874
>Great Setting
>a fucking Highschool
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Boku no Hero Academia is a good series!
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>>160269658
>Max vs Lin Lin
So you have no examples is what you're saying that fight was offscreen
>>160269793
That makes no sense in any context of what was said fuck off
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>>160263902
Its actually really stale

But its currently the best we got in 2017 so thats what makes BNHA enjoyable.
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>>160281498
It's a fun highschool though
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>>160281851
She isn't a yandere. She is actually a shy genki school girl with some serious emotional issues.
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>>160282931
Not your general
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>>160268622
Pro:
The Characters, their development and the funny scenes
It's not unnecessarily edgy
The fights are well thought out and a bit of tactics is needed for any character to win (except bakugou and todoroki, they are waaay too OP)
The backstory of older characters

People who say BnHA is generic, apparently haven't read Fairy Tail.
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>>160266529
Finally someone sumed it up. I like the series but it's hard not to get annoyed seeing these two interact with each other. It's doesn't make sense. And Bakugou somehow winning popularity poll. There are tons of dumb nips who actually like him?
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>>160263902
Characters that look like 5 year old kids
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>>160283007
Not my general what?

>>160263902
The show focuses on an extraoirdinary amount of bland and so far pretty boring cast of heroes and treats the in some case far more interesting villains as just stepping stones for said heroes.

While making the villains inhumane is a good way of making them scary, that doesn't really equate to making the heroes any more enjoyable. Indeed it is the dynamic between the villains the the heroes that make hero comics interesting, and in movies more often than not a movie can fail or succeed depending on the performance of the antagonists.

So while I don't have any major issue with the main focus being on the main protagonist and his absolute closest friends, when the comic starts giving what has so far been essentially a background character (Kirishima) some major spotlight just because he has become a bit more popular, but refuses to allow the villains to shine, that is just a bad recipe.

Ask yourself. What character did you find more interesting? Fatgum or the super strong villain he was fighting? Kirishima or the super strong villain?

And that super strong villain seems to just be a mook, a stepping stone for Kirishima to allow him to be built up.
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>>160264044
IMO this is JUMP's only real chance at a new battle shonen that can fill the void left by Naruto and Bleach. JUMP failed terribly at shilling Toriko but it might not go the same way this time
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>>160281925
>I-I-I-I-I-I-IT DOESN'T COUNT

So much for unique subversive tournament arc
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>>160283868
t. Togafag
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>>160283868
>when the comic starts giving what has so far been essentially a background character (Kirishima) some major spotlight just because he has become a bit more popular, but refuses to allow the villains to shine, that is just a bad recipe.
He was always planning on giving Kirishima spotlight in fact that's essentially been his goal to give everyone from 1-A a time to shine.
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>>160283868
You're right, I cheered for Rappa and want to know more about him. But I'm afraid to voice my opinion, because I don't want to be known as the villainous edgefag.
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>>160263902
I think it's a good show, I just don't get the massive fanfare behind it. Honestly I think it's mostly to do with crunchyroll marketers shilling the fuck out of it on social media after they got the license.
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>>160284369
>Honestly I think it's mostly to do with crunchyroll marketers shilling the fuck out of it on social media after they got the license.
Didn't work for Twin Star Exorcists
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>>160284189
What a compelling argument you've made
>subversive
What the fuck does an offscreen fight have to do with being subversive, or are you just fishing for (You)'s
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>>160283868
Just how all the class won't get equal treatment neither will all of the villains. It's surprising you make that claim when Shigaraki and the league of villains exists and you post a picture of Toga who is obviously going to get development and Twice got nearly a chapter's worth of unsolicited backstory. And SURPRISE here there are now to get more development.
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>>160272246
>who was Light
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>>160272246
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>>160272246
underage detected
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>>160267262
Yeah it applies to OPM too
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>>160268622
>capeshit
>no generic
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>>160285121
>Had the ultimate tool for killing people still fuck it up.Ω
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>>160285489
O my kurta eyes
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>>160285121
Light was fucking retarded. The death note is completely undetectable unless your a complete moron.
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>>160285728
That's not even OPM retard
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>>160285489
He's got less brains than the fucking housemaid
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>>160287303
Who said that pic was from OPM? I just though it was from mob
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>>160285489
He got the perfect power to counter exactly one (1) of the Spiders. How does that make him smart?
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>>160287697
Then why did you say OPM
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>>160263902
Anticlimatic as fuck after AFO went to prison.
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>>160263902
This anime is so awful that it failed my 3 episode rule. Every time I see a general thread, I laugh at the idiots.
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>>160287777
OPM is a overrated parody; can be enjoyable but nothing like his fans want it to be
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>>160274418
>negate gravity upon touch
>shadow creature
>sticky balls
>tail
>prehensile tongue
>create objects
>talk to animals
>acid secretion
>tape dispenser

Your complaint only applies to like five, maybe six characters.
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>>160284369

That and a lot of e-celebs were hyping the fuck out of every above-average scene in the festival
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>>160263974
>establishes a power ceiling early on in the series
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>>160287958
Ok then
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>>160288016
That's only one thing, and it's been done before. Are you seriously telling me that you think the series with the most mediocre tournament arc in recent history is the most innovative?
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>>160272761
>He's gonna go snooping around for info about Shigaraki and die, or get someone else killed in the process and have an existential crisis
>implying that's not exactly what Gran Torino and Tsukauchi are doing at the moment
He's too late to get them killed when they're likely dead already.
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>>160288016
I give it 30 chapters until wonderboy breaks it and goes even further beyond

I wish the whole thing was focused on pro heroes and All Might, what's Japan's aversion to adult characters
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>>160288291
>moving goalposts
>every shonen apparently needs to have a drawn out tournament arc
What battle shonen other than BNH has established power ceilings in the first season that have come out in the past decade?
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>>160288555
Fullmetal Alchemist
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>>160288700
Uh, no.
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>>160288766
Good argument
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>>160288799
You can't have a power ceiling when nobody actually gets immensely stronger.
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>>160289035
What kind of retarded logic is that?
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>>160288555
Moving goalposts? It was a direct response to a point made in support of the initial topic. While not as recent, HxH and One Piece both did this and varying stages of their stories.

No one said anything about every shonen needing a drawn-out tournament arc. Only that if you're going to include one, don't half ass it. Very few members of the cast were even utilized for more than a fleeting moment, fewer still actually experiencing any semblance of character development by the end. Fuck, the poor management of his cast of characters was the biggest complaint of the arc at the time of being published, you idiot.

Christ, faggot, try a little harder than making up points to argue against.
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>>160289035
what the fuck, sure you can
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>>160289035
Are you fucking stupid? What, do you need fucking powerlevel listings to keep you in check? Go back to DBZ and Seven Deadly Sins, you degenerate.
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Why are BnHAfags so defensive?
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>>160289453
>muh patrician tastes the comment
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>>160289785
People like to believe that what they enjoy isn't generic or bad. That goes for any fanbase. Combine that with the average anon's autism and you get cancer like this
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>>160289945
I've seen plenty of people admit a show/manga isn't good (or at least isn't anything special), but that they enjoy it regardless. Even some braindead generalfags do. On the other hand, BnHAfags will almost always get butthurt when you criticize their manga or Horikoshi. I guess shounenshitters are just more insecure and prone to lashing out.
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>>160288700
In BnH the setter was obviously All Might. Can't say I can recall anyone from FMA setting some standard for the "power cap".
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>>160290507
I enjoy the fuck out of bnha but I'm in this thread disagreeing with OP.
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>>160290583
Roy Mustang retard
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>>160290703
You should pull it back, you won't get far in life throwing insults every time you open your mouth. Or are you just entirely incapable of that?
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Generic doesn't mean bad. I want a feel good coming of age story where the friendship is not tell and no show. Bnha is comfy and the characters are nice.
>>160269123
If you like it when side characters are developed and you were disappointed by both Bleach and Naruto, it's the manga for you
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>>160287964
And they're all thwarted by basic quirks like being stronger or fast.

Ultimately, they mean absolutely nothing.
Hero killer's only quirk was tasting blood and disabling individuals, yet somehow he could up with midoriya & todoroki and have insane reflexes. Also a master swordsman and the ablity to jump 100ft in the air
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>>160290821
not him but
>4chan etiquette=life
lmao fucker at least admit you're clueless
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>>160290507

>BnHAfags will almost always get butthurt when you criticize their manga or Horikoshi


If i had a personally guess why, it's cause the fandom in general is in heavy denial that BnHA found a stomping ground copying off better manga series' ala JoJo since Quirks = Stands (powers) but will vehemently deaf out anybody who mentions it


TL;DR Horikoshi is a genuine hack who had to borrow from other Jump manga's to even get a foot in and is now trying to find an unsuccessful way to drag on this otherwise shit-show


Fuck the fandom, fuck Hori the biting cuck, and most importantly fuck You
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>>160291325
>BnHA found a stomping ground copying off better manga series' ala JoJo since Quirks = Stands (powers)
Jesus christ. The only thing dumber than a BNHA fanboy is a jojofag. Of all the manga that you could have said BNHA copied, Jojo's is the worst example. At least say naruto or HxH.
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>>160290821
Sorry if I hurt your feelings
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>>160291283
Clueless? Not remembering something is clueless? But yeah you're right, most of you probably couldn't function in an actual face to face discussion without sperging out.
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>>160288016
Well, approximate ceiling. OFA gets stronger with more users, and while Deku might not get as buff as Toshinori just for fangirl reasons (can't be bara, must remain a bishi) he will undoubtedly learn how to apply OFA more effectively because he's an autist. I expect Deku to end up at around 125-150% of All Might.
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>>160288393
What is Tiger and Bunny?
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>>160266828
This is great.
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>>160263902
It´s fun to watch; however, it´s not innovative, nor the beginning of a new era. The author more or less took the best parts of the past shounens and put them together. The beginning was fairly strong, but it´s getting less impressive as it goes.
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>find a flaw

There's absolutely no suspense or sense of danger for any of the main cast. The whole premise of the manga so far is the fact that there's a bunch of promising young kids being thrown into the adult world of noble heroes and murdering psychopathic heroes, yet none of them have died. Now I know there's more ways to build suspense other than just simply killing someone, but it's hard to convince me that they're in such grave danger of actually dying when nobody has died despite being in those situations multiple times.

I can sorta see it because the last few arcs they were still students being protected by teachers/professionals, but in this arc they're supposed to be equals of the professionals so somebody better die or be seriously injured or my suspense for the rest of the manga will disappear.
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>>160292368
I don't like the fact there seems to be no real main villain yet. Overhaul is more of a secondary villain, Tomura is supposed to be the main I guess, but he's a joke.

None of them seem to be particularly cruel or 'bad'.

I think Disney had better villains.
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>BnHaruto
>innovative
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>>160292516
I kinda get that about this manga though. Considering how Tomura is more of a novice villain trying to climb up as Midorya is.

The story is more about the development of two superpowers and their predecessors rather than them already being at the top duking it out.
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>>160292516
I can agree to a certain extent. A great antagonist is neccessary for any type of literary work.
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>>160263902
Isn't it basically just a battle harem without the harem. It's not exactly innovative look at say Asterisk War from a few seasons ago. Same shit different paint job.
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It's one of the best manga to show up in a long while.
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