I thought Yu Yu Hakusho was supposed to be good? I just finished

It's just people's nostalgia goggles. It's honestly pretty boring.

>>159944205
I thought the first arc was the best personally. It's all downhill from there. The Dark Tournament's resolution is the part where it really becomes just plain bad. If you don't like it now you probably won't enjoy the rest of it.

/a/ is just full of Togashi dickriders who will defend him no matter what shit he writes

Don't worry, I understand. New anime fans have an incurable disease that makes them blind to great adventures. It's quite sad actually, that there are people who will never know great shounen anime just as it's sad deaf people can never know great music. You have my pity.

O MY DEMON BLOODLINE rouins it so stop while you're ahead.

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>>159944491
>great shounen anime

>>159944605
Back then, people had something called a sense of adventure. I know it's hard for those of the modern mundane world to grasp but there once existed magic that gave us beautiful experiences.

>>159944491
All their fapping to rape, NTR and shit tier waifus caused their brain to dull away, that's why.

Its not a masterpiece and is definitely a product of its time but I think its decent enough. Also fuck what people say Chapter Black was amazing until O MY DEMON BLOOD.

It does get better, but if you don't like it by now then the Dark Tournament won't change your mind.

>>159944768
you've gotta be like 24 at most

>>159944205
It's good up until the 3 Kings/Demon tournament arc.

Even the Chapter Black arc kinda dragged on a bit and was a bit silly at times (hurr I have 6 personalities oh and also I have a year left to live)

>>159945129
Well at least I'm not boring.

I really like Yusuke. Tough guy with a heart of gold? Sign me up. I love how in the mango he saves the world by pressing a button that was Keiko's favorite color.

SPOILER! YUSUKE DIES!!!!!!!!

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>>159944205
>literally on the brink of watching the Dark Tournament, one of the best tournament arcs in shonen

If you don't like it by then, then I suggest you drop it because it doesn't get any better from there

>>159944205
It doesnt. I hated it. Forced myself to watch until episode 79 but then stopped.

>>159944768
I've got a sense of adventure but so far there hasn't been any real tension. Power is arbitrary, Yusuke powers up through emotion which is a garbage cop-out and all fights are drawn-out with explanations of what amount to fighter mechanics when it's really quite clear what's happening without it.

The first 6 episodes are amazing. And then up to epsiode 13 is pretty good.
Everything after really dropped off though.

>>159945317
The whole concept of some corporation trying to open a door to the demon dimension where "shopping mall sized, unbeatable, S-rank mega demons" were wandering about was really cool. Ashame they never went anywhere with it.

fuck i was literally just about to pick this up. whats wrong with it?

>>159945711
It's really not that bad, it's like a 6 or a 7. It hasn't aged particularly well but otherwise is fine.

>>159945711
if you havent even started by now, dont bother. It's too old for you.

I'm sure it wont be brightly colored and shiny enough for you

>>159945711

its fucking fantastic m8, don't listen to the retards on here that hate fun

yusuke is one of the best mc's period

It's one of my favorite anime, that being said the tournament arcs are ridiculous.

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>>159945711

try to dig up YYH Abridged instead

>>159945478
It's true Yusuke gets stronger along with his emotions but that's not why he wins most of his fights. Also, I'd say if there's a series that does emotional power ups good, it's this one. We're made clear the psychological reason and his power being so dependent on his emotion is actually a lot more trouble for him.

And about explaining the mechanics, they need to do that because the fights in Yu Yu Hakusho are a lot about mechanics and they need the audience to follow along to know the characters didn't win via asspulls. Now I admit, asspulls do occasionally happen but there are enough well thought out fights that easily make up for it.

>>159944205
People who pretend not to have seen something just to shitpost about it are my favorite posters

>>159945096
>It does get better, but if you don't like it by now then the Dark Tournament won't change your mind.
But I did only start liking it when Toguro appeared. Saint Beasts arc was generic and bland.

>>159945711
Watch if you have a sense of adventure. Don't watch if you're just a boring moefag who hates shounen.

O MY DEMON FORM

Just 3 things that bothered me, and 2 of them have already been mentioned a lot
>Chapter black's end
>Demon world tournament
>Togura is the strongest demon ever! Except he's actually just a borderline A- demon and those are a dime a dozen in the demon world

>>159946172
Wasn't Toguro B+?

>>159946172
reminds me of meruem

>>159946172
They thought he was the strongest demon because the barrier separating the worlds kept them from finding A and S classes.

>>159946232
But no one surpassed Meruem yet, come back in 10 years.

>>159946306
Kurapika could beat Meruem.

>>159946220
He was upper B class, but I think Koenma stated he might have warranted a lower A class rating at the end of the first tournament + he couldn't get to demon world because of the barrier that blocked A/S demons

>>159945711
See the replies? They're mixed opinions, you'll never know if you like it or not unless you try it, so go and watch it. Personally I loved it as a child, and still love it to this day, so don't depend on other anon's opinions and go form your own, it'll do you and this board a favor.

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>>159946172
>all the pleb demons Team Urameshi befriended in the Dark Tournament ended up becoming stronger then 100% Toguro through some magic training

>>159946378
I think they also explained that the portals themselves vary and some can't carry stronger demons. It's just the kekkai that absolutely blocks A and S class demons.

>>159945711
I rewatched it fairly recently. Definitely a fun ride, but the common complaints you see here are completely warranted.

I think all those were during a time when Togashi was getting overworked and was burning out

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>>159946421
Just good nutrition and the proper exercise.

>>159945711
strong start, very strong midpoint (arguably the best tournament arc in any shounen), it declines from there but till that point is 10/10, after that a 6/10, and it probably ends as a solid 7/10 anime overall.

>>159946377
no wtf are you talking about?

YYH is one of my top tier anime. It's got such an amazing cast of characters and while the fights are great, I find the relationships developing between the characters as well as their growth over the series to be one of the best parts.

I love that I can look at a picture of a character and if not remember their name, at least remember parts of the fight they were in. Can't say much for that in other tournament anime - Togashi had a lot of interesting characters.

It's arguably one of the best dubs of its time, and while the later arcs get shaky (no thanks to Togashi's floundering in the mangas end due to hating Shounen Jump), I find the first few sagas an enjoyable watch.

But, eh, ain't for everybody.

>>159946421
shit I never noticed how stupid that is kek, should've pulled an "Super kami guru" and just said that every demon faction leader can "awaken" their true potential, it would be stupid nonetheless but at least it wouldn't be that out of nowhere.

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>>159946421
Don't forget that Hiei literally slaughters a mob of A ranked demons that were under Mukuro as if they were just shit jobbers

>>159945339
What a coincidence. I stopped watching it there, and I haven't picked it back up for weeks. I'm enjoying it overall though, and I'm looking forward to picking it up again.

>>159946936
To be fair, he had to use the dragon for a majority of them.

>>159945711
It's very good, you might as well try it out. It's not always amazing, but there are some incredible parts. It helps that it has some really well directed episodes, and a lot of great animation.

>>159946102
O MY DEMON HERITAGE

>>159944205
Yu Yu Hakusho is just a bad ripoff of Dragon Ball. The characters are nice, but everything else is mediocre.

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This show needs a remake on the same level as HxH

Do it before I die god damnit

>>159947389
YYH was much more fun to watch than DB/Z. One fight lasting 3 episodes or more, great great grandchilden that grow exponetially more powerful, give me a fucking break.

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>>159947212
I'd say the animation itself is quite dated. But the artistic visual effects are really beautiful and dramatic, easily more than anything you get today.

>>159947593
Also helped by the beautiful soundtrack.

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>>159944205
>find show boring
>come to /a/ for emotional advice instead of just dropping it and watching something else

>>159946936

one could say that Mukuro doesn't look half bad at all

one of those rare anime where the dub is better than the sub

>>159947212
I'm a sucker for the darker and drawn style as opposed to the computer/cell shaded or whatever.

It's nostalgia goggles, but it's a lot more comfier too. Outlaw Star is fun too because of this

>only have access to streaming services for anime
>YYH is on Hulu
>sub
But I always loved the dub.

>>159947864
If you have the internet you have more than just access to streams.

Fuckign plebes these days...

>>159947864
funimation has dub stream

>>159948022
>>159948067
My computer is too shitty for any streaming. I use my Roku.

>>159947593
It depends. It's an early to mid 90's long-form TV shounen adaption, so the bar isn't set very high, but despite that, the animation is rarely bad. Sure it's not always great but there are some really nice sequences that elevate the series above most of it's kind. I didn't say that it's consistently well animated, but I should have probably clarified what I meant either way.

>>159948022
Also it's "plebs". Only one "e".

>>159948263
It's shorthand for plebeian, plebe.

>>159948435
You're the first person I've seen abbreviate it with an extra e, fag.

>>159948793
Not my fault you surround yourself with retards.

>>159944205
The only interesting thing about is how the artstyle evolves from a late 80s anime to mostly if not full 90s; it feels like a jumble of styles in a good way. Other than that it's completely unremarkable and essentially a smark's shounen: no flair of its own but 'good' character development and dynamics

>>159948808
You mean people like you?

It's the best shonen there is (which is not saying much) and my favorite animu to this day. Now, the shit that still pisses me off

>Toguro looking for a stronger opponent yet he never knew about Sensui
>Kuwabara could easily be the strongest of the four but fuck him, enlarging his sword, or twisting or firing it is a one time power only
>Yusuke getting yoki didn't bothered me, but the fact that it could penetrate seiko ki after it was established it's divine armour
>Hiei, Kuwabara and fucking Kurama jobbing to Sensui, like they couldn't just corner him and have Kuwabara cut him in a half
>the fight against dr ichigaki

Other than that, it's fine. I don't know why it bothers you that chu and co. would become so powerfull under genkai, when yusuke was a shit student. And they still didn't make it past the preliminary round

>>159944205
Dude I tried YuYu Hakusho and I couldn't give a shit about it, then I tried Rurouni Kenshin because I still wanted to watch an old shounen action and it's like a million times better. Definitely try it if you haven't already.

>>159945317
If he doesn't like DT, he should drop anime

>>159946014
This. Saint beasts arc was a slog to get through.

>>159947745
Shut up, Carlos.

>>159947864
>You're-a-meshi.
It sucked.

>>159944205
What >>159944255 said.
It does get better but not by much and don't expect the asspulls to be toned down.
If you get to Toguro and don't like I suggest just dropping it.

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>>159944205
Dark Tournament is goat.

Don't bother with season 4 it's shit

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Yur a meshi

>>159952165
The Dark Tournament is the best tournament arc there is, if someone does not like it they will never like any shonen show.

>>159952451
It has some cool moments like the Doctor, Sniper, and Kuwabara's ultimate technique.

>>159952837
That's season 3 though.

One of my first anime. I love it. It's one of my cousin's favorite anime too an I'm going to buy him the DVDs he's missing from his collection, because he never saw the episodes after Dark Tournament.

I know full well what I'm doing. He annoys me sometimes.

>>159952972
Well season four at least has a couple of nice scenes with Keiko and Yuskue, some cool designs and locations at least.

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>tfw this scene

>>159952451
>>159952972
Three Kings arc actually has some cool shit in it up until the tournament when it nosedives hard. The ending makes it worth it, though.

>>159944491


anime form the 90s and older are too slow for todays audience. I actually appreciate the slower pacing of DBZ in some aspects, DBSuper would uses more of it.

>>159953584
>The ending makes it worth it, though.
You mean that shittyass copout.

>>159953342
I... won't die... even if all the bones in my body are broke... remember Urameshi? We must still fight... each other...

What a man.

>>159953754
>You mean that shittyass copout.


How do you mean?

>>159952837
Yusuke going emo over having to kill a psychopath was annoying

>>159944205

It's my favorite shounen series and that is because of 1000000% nostalgia my dude.

Asspulls, power creep, and a really lazy disappointing ending.

>>159945662

Well they did. They went to the demon realm...aaaaand all the S Rank demons are just kinda some normal lookin' dudes.

>>159953754
No, I mean the kino-as-fuck denouement final episode that caps off the entire series in a beautiful, satisfying way like the final punctuation mark at the end of a long novel.

>>159953936
Yu Yu Hakusho's only like 20% asspulls, that's pretty great compared to most other shounen. Hunter X Hunter's about 50% asspulls and DBZ is 90%.

>>159954117
YYH has far more asspulls than HxH.
No, "o my rubber nen" isn't an asspull.

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I watched it like 18(?) years ago and it was great then. I would not recommend it to anyone who has seen Hunter X Hunter.

HxH steals all of YuYu's bricks and builds a better house. Like a way, vastly better house. He learned his lessons.

whatever, I'd still fuck botan unconscious

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>>159954259

I just wish we got more protagonists like Yusuke. Getting real tired of these dull blank slates protags.

Rewatching yu yu hakusho myself, the show really hasn't aged well. I can see why OP isn't into it by now. The dub voices for a lot of the background characters sound like early youtube abridged tier voicing

>>159954238
O

>>159954802
Oh my rubber reiki.

>>159944205
I'm reading the manga and am just getting into the Dark Tournament arc but the series definitely has some fun moments and then some of the most generic garbage ever...the one thing that really blows my mind is that even taking into account its good parts, I don't understand how this series was that popular when looking at the line-up it was competing with in WSJ at the time, it's pretty bland in comparison

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>>159946936

The part of the tournament where Yuuske and Kurama 2 v 5 the other team was easily one of the best parts of the series.

The spirit orb and Genaki's death were the best scenes, though.

>>159955839
Yusuke, Hiei, Kurama, Kuwabara, Koenma and Toguro are so cool I want to see them in HxH

>>159946421
>Kuwabara becomes stronger than an A class demon as well
>gives up fighting at the end of the series
What was the point of the series trying to explain how spirit energy was stronger than demon energy if all of the strongest fighters ended up being demons anyway?

>>159955839
<READ<
<<THIS<<
<WAY<
It's been ages since I've seen that

>>159956046
What's with the characters in this show and insisting to fight three in a row but only get two?

>>159956163
Well Holy Energy was supposed to be the strongest but it lost, too. I guess the real point was quantity can overwhelm quality.

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>>159956304

>>159956343
Is he telling the dude to get his balls chopped off?

>>159956316
I don't think Hiei ever insisted to fight three in a row, he wanted to take the whole team himself.

>>159955366
I took the Wall Street Journal in the early nineties, and I don't see how the two could really be in competition.

>>159956368
He's telling him to not half-ass it

>A MULLBERRY IS A TREE
>KUWABARA IS A MAN
What did he mea-
Ooooooooh
So this is....

"Kee-noh"

>>159944940
Nigga I wanted the whole gang to put their best fuckin transformations and destroy Sensui the 4 ganging up on him. The fact Sensui almost took no damage from the rest of the crew really left me sad.

>>159956262
american shonen jump had really good volume design overall, too bad the binding was shit

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It seems both the fans and official think and marketing Miyuki as a follow female character despite what
Miyuki said to"her". It there a reason for that ?

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>>159957494
>despite what
>Miyuki said to"her".
Despite what Yusuke said to her actually

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>>159955366
It's "dark" compare with other popular shonen jump. Togashi put some heavy stuff and debate like humen's evilness compare to demons, and the topic of weather the act of eating huemen is that different from what we did to animals,
just the same thing he did during the ants arc of Hunter x Hunter. Plus character design and art style that both female and male readers like are all the factors made the show extremely popular back the days and still has strong fan base even now.

>>159944205
Sailor Moon and Gundam are the only good pre 2000 anime

>>159958341
Okay, fair enough, I guess I'll look forward to that stuff but I was more curious about the idea that it even made it to that point since I'm like 64 chapters in and none of that's happened yet and at the time it was running in the most competitive and successful manga magazine ever...I'm just shocked it managed to survive the initial chopping block

>>159955366
You should complain about DBZ being popular despite the competition

>>159958903
That's different because it helped establish the need for serious competition and it's perpetual popularity is the same as One Piece today, One Piece is not popular based on its current stuff but the legacy of its old stuff

Dragon Ball was popular before the first chapter was even released

>>159945212
Chapter Black's problem was that it introduced Power Levels and OH DEMON ANCESTOR.

>>159954238
Why doesn't everyone have a death plan nen trick then?

>>159961011
Because not everyone has nen with the properties of rubber and gum.

>>159961104
It doesn't have to be a revival though, it could just be a revenge blow/self destruction.

>>159961151
If it were someone whose abilities are related to that (most likely Genthru) it's absolutely feasible

>>159961183
But killing Gentrru was supposed to disable the bombs according to the nen eater guy but killing Kurapika would endanger Chrollo specifically because Chain Jail was a nen ability born of hatred.

>>159961104
Killua can probably make himself a pacemaker.

>>159961297
>But killing Gentrru was supposed to disable the bombs according to the nen eater guy
That's referring to Countdown, if he used Little Flower to detonate all of his aura post-death it would make a huge explosion.

I'll throw a straight right jab

The dub is superior to the sub. Also, Chapter Black was a great arc, don't care about the complaints about demon Yusuke. Sensui was a great antagonist and was a much better "villain with a death wish" than Toguro was.

>>159957263
It would have been cool if each take out 1 of his personalities but we ended up only seeing 3 of them

>>159952309
Don't sperge too hard about the integrity of Japanese pronunciation, no one gives a shit.. The dub is so good and Kuwabara had the best VA at Funimation.

>>159953936
Asspulls do cheaper some of the most profound moments, and is probably one of the most annoying things Togashi does, but even that aside the show delivers.