Little Witch Academia

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Ok well anyways, last 5 pages, 4 of which you've already seen before.

>D: According to my calculations, the amount Luna Nova has paid far exceeds the initial debt. Since the interest has been invalidated, then it would seem the rest of the debt is also
>D: cleared, right?

>D: The matter of repaying the overpayments on the interest will be handled more formally at another time.

>D: And with the new information now provided, we request the immediate return of the Magical Conductor Stone?

>>159833941
>tfw no Sucy Threesome

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>>159833982
>D: Mister Fafnir! (Jew)

>Jew: Hmph. Nowadays there's no need for dragons or magic or any of that crap...

>>159833982
Is it possible to be smugger than that left diana?

>>159834002
>that Lukic

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>>159834002
>Jew: In this age of science...magic is soon fated to disappear.
>A: That won't happen!

>A: Even now, magic can still move people!

>Jew: It's been a while since I've heard someone say something like that.
>A: Watch me! Someday I'll become an amazing which that makes everyone in the world gasp in awe!

>Jew: Is that your dream you were talking about?

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>>159834027
>A: Yeah!
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>Jew: Hmph, you'll learn soon enough that you can't survive off dreams alone.
>A: Sheesh, what's with you!!

>A: Take care old man, be sure to control that greed of yours.
>L: Akko! Everyone's leaving!

>>159833982
>>159834002

Best girl even bester.
Sasuga Diana

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>>159834046
>Jew: To think there were still people around with that kind of cheery face...

>Am: In the end we still have to do them!?
>A: Whyyyyyyyy!?

>As punishment for leaving the school grounds without permission, they had to do the laundry.

And that's it. I also liked Asenshi's translation where it's more "with that kind of look in their eye", probably a better localization honestly.

I'll get to chapter 7 whenever.

>>159834069
Thanks a lot, anon.

>>159834069
Thank you, kind translatorkun

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>>159833941

>Teri Terio
>Hentai Doujin Artist

>>159834003
Out-jewing a jew is something to be very smug over.

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>>159834003

LN Diana

>>159834149
>you will never get a higher test score than diana
>she will never become so frustrated she starts having barely repressed sexual feelings for you

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>>159833941
Is that Sucy's mom? What happened to pic related?

>>159834182
>>159833941
Neither is canon.

>>159834195

Terio Manga SucyMom is OVA canon
TV LWA SucyMom is scrapped

>>159834195
I thought the Terio manga was cannon?
I know the one posted in here is, but isn't the Terio one also? Like an alternate?

>>159834182
>Sucy's mom
No such thing, Sucy is an orphan.

>>159834217
Did they confirm that at some point?

>>159834217
No, it's not canon to either format

>>159834219

Yes, its based before & after OVA1

>>159834219
OVA story
Terio manga story
TV story
TV manga story

They're all separate.

>>159834234
>>159834239

I remember Tattun said a while ago Terio Manga is canon to the OVAs

>>159834254

No.

OVA 1&2 = Terio Manga
TV = 2017 Manga

>>159834285
TV anime and TV manga slightly contradict each other though.

>>159834386

Manga is added some stuff (like volley chapter) & alter some stuff (legendary broom chapter) but the context is still the same as TV

>>159834182
It's Sucy's mom in the Terio adaption.

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>>159822487
>TV Diana: Chihaya Kisaragi
fix'd that for you, seriously, I'm surprised there isn't any crossover art
>is highly skilled, which everyone around her greatly respects her for (this is more overt for Diana since her name also carries weight)
>has incredibly high standards
>doesn't suffer fools gladly
>is driven and serious
>is socially quite awkward
>is shown to have been a happy child, but this changes after the death of a close relative (which has a permanent damaging effect on the family: Chihaya's parents divorce, Diana's family is left in financial ruin)
>now she is left with a heavy, self-imposed burden that causes her to focus autistically on this one particular aspect of her life
>this is revealed in a story arc that takes place at the same point in the show
>in this arc, Akko/Haruka learns all this and sets out to help her, at first Diana/Chihaya is actually angry at her for doing this, but after events unfold, she comes to a revelation that she was maybe slightly focusing on the wrong thing (Chihaya - she should be enjoying herself while singing, Diana - her family being all about compassion, and maybe Akko's not so bad)
>in the following arc, Akko/Haruka is hit with a similar malaise and this time Diana/Chihaya is the one to help her out
The only notable difference in their characterisation is that Chihaya is overtly self conscious while Diana almost has no filter, she rags on Akko constantly whereas the biggest examples of Chihaya not suffering fools gladly are the cooking show and when Miki was wasting everyone's time. I guess we can chalk that up to Diana being... more well endowed. The only exception to this for Diana is wishing she could be honest about her love of Chariot but holding it back, which causes her to be even harsher to Akko.

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I want to stick it in this disregarded Finn!

>>159834752
>The only notable difference in their characterisation is that Chihaya is overtly self conscious
You mean like everything about their entire personality and motivations.
Their backstories are nothing alike either
Stop trying to force this.

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>>159834836
around a finn, the ice is thin

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>>159834949
Hahaha a :^) ya yeet! Wow funne!

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>>159834949
>>159835017
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>159835031
Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire

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As much as Americans shit up threads, they keep them alive.

>>159835336
Keep them alive for what reason?

>>159835409
It really makes me wonder as to why there isn't an /ag/ as to contain these generals so the catalog wouldn't be as shit.

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>>159835409
For people like me who can't let go.

>>159834272
When? I think we need to ask him again.

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>>159835437
I wonder the same thing.
We could do without /s4s/ and /bant/...
/ag/ seems like it would be much more "useful" and have high poster traffic.

>>159835437
That's treating the symptom not the cause, also /vg/ was a mistake.

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LWA plays vidya

>>159835437
>>159835667
[s4s] is kinda useful as some kind of soft-/b/ and /b/ is basically the porn board at this point.
/bant/ is fucking redundant, though, because /int/ and /pol/ were enough for that.
/trash/ is also redundant. Hiro created it for the sake of throwing at it the threads that didn't fit in other boards, but I think we need more boards for specific purposes.
And I agree that /ag/ is needed, besides I think we need a separate board for manga, as well.

>>159835806
I really don't know what else could be better. You can't really stop people from creating threads.

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So sweet

>>159836307
That's how you get diabetes.

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>>159836307
I really want to see TV Akko try to warm up to OVA Diana.
Her blind optimism and yay might prove to be too much for OVA Diana to handle, causing her "stacy" cheerleader-like attitude to crumble away.

>>159836590
OVA Diana is too prideful. Akko would need an opening like the end of OVA1. She would've needed to continue on pressing instead of just letting the situation go away.

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Does anyone non-ironically ship Andrew x Akko?

>>159837442
Yes. They probably find their bromance appealing.

>>159837538
Why not Andrew x Frank?

>>159836208
Agreed about /bant/, same goes for /vip/, that one's just straight up jewing. /trash/ is really comfortable though.

>>159836307

Just Fuck Already

>>159836307
Would really the source for this pic.

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>>159837816

Diana may be popular but it's only because of Akko, were the story about her and Akko didn
t exist people would call her a boring maary sue.

>>159837906
https://twitter.com/mochiro_lwa/status/886187596388343810

post lewd akko

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>>159838307

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>>159838307
Cleavers

>>159838221
Thanks!

>>159837597
Because him and Frank are already canon.

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>>159838199
Well, that much is obvious.

It's kinda the same in Croix's case, with the difference that while Diana manages to be her own character, Croix revolves around Chariot. I'm surprised how some people are about double standards when it comes to Croix and Andrew, while both of them, in a way, are a bit similar from the storytelling point of view.

That's why I want S2 to have as minimun Croix possible, or if anything to have Croix to have significant moments with other characters.

>>159839033
Here's an obvious difference.

Croix is the driving force of the narrative, pushing a central conflict towards a climax.
Andrew meanwhile is tangential at best, contributing next to nothing to the overarching story.

>>159839070
I agree with that since that is, well, correct.

But I'm talking more about their individual characters. I've discussed with many people (apparently Croixfags), that most of the flashbacks are actually from Chariot's PoV, we barely know shit about Croix's motivations, nor we had introspection on her part(then again, we never had a lot of introspection from anyone in general). As much as superfluous Andrew ended up being, that never happened to him.

I think the hardest thing about continuing LWA is how to build the characters as interesting enough to carry themselves without Akko being mentioned or even being around them, the only way they accomplish what they need to do is because Akko's there to give them the push by ignoring logic and reason.

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Pretty slow thread today it seems, only 41 posts while i was sleeping.

>>159839315
Wait until about 16/18:00 GMT. Usually that's when the majority of posters are awake and active.

>>159836307
and everyone around is like "could you please control your gay for one moment?"

>>159839290
>Akko's there to give them the push by ignoring logic and reason.
I hope start doing something different if season 2 happens.

>>159839290
I detest to bring MLP as an example, but the first seasons revolved around the MC's growth and flaws. I dropped the show years ago, but I managed to get around of one of the most recent episodes of the current season, I apparently the man PoV was from a secondary character, without the MC in sight.

My point is, that it's possible to work the characters without Akko around or around 100%, if they just sit calmly and do it properly.

>>159839402
Does your name begin with a H?

>>159839431
Yoh already stated that there would be less Akko in future installments if they fulfill their claim of 1 0 M O R E Y E A R S.

>>159839255
I think Croix's action and demeanor already tell you plenty about her though. Better tell than show.
I think Croix's natural progression was still much natural than Andrew's 180 change of attitude about magic despite barely involved in anything which demonstrate its useful purpose and role in society.

>>159839468
>the first seasons revolved around the MC's growth and flaws
Yet it was also about how others interacted with each other and how the MC learned from that, which LWA really should've done.

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>>159839033
>if anything to have Croix to have significant moments with other characters.
I'm still mad.

>>159839543
>Better tell than show.
They didn't even tell or show us what her background was. At least with Andrew we know his character stems from being in a strict muggle aristocratic family.

>>159839660
Its like they knew we wanted this, but only managed to fit this at the very end for some reason.

>>159839660
They did have one off screen moment in episode 18

>>159839660
I still say that episode 16 and 17 should've been the time to develop Croix at the school since Akko was away from the school.

>>159839712
Not even a short scene with Croix's introduction or actually showing Cons asking Croix permission to be in the Wild Hunt.

AKKO
K
K
O

>>159839729
>one off screen
That's what bothers me.

>>159839823
>>159839753
I guess they had plans for that, but netflix deadlines were too strict or something

>>159839255
>I've discussed with many people (apparently Croixfags), that most of the flashbacks are actually from Chariot's PoV,

Yeah, it's annoying (though it makes sense, since they are Croixfags and by extension, shipperfags) how biased are towards Croix. Most of the flashbacks are from Chariot's point of view. And well, it makes sense since producer already said that Croix served as a complement for Chariot's background. Chariot, on the other hand, doesn't revolve around Croix. Due to her background and her relationship with other characters, she can keep perfectly going and growing as character.

But I think the beauty with how things ended with Croix and Andrew's characters is the potential. Croix being gone the fuck off away means that they can have her have some moments of growth with other characters on her own.

Same with Andrew, now that he's not a romantic interest anymore, they can actually focus on him the normal human point of view they originally wanted him to be.

>>159839468
Yes, but for that Yoshinari needs to sit down and make a story bible to get around the worldbuilding and related details first.

>>159839862
It's easier to say that Trigger can't into pacing and writing.

>>159838199
Diana is popular in Japan due to her perfection.

>>159839906
That too.

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Post these cuties doing cute things.

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>>159833941
>Sucymom in the OP

Finally, a good thread.

>>159839543
>I think Croix's natural progression was still much natural than Andrew's 180 change of attitude about magic despite barely involved in anything which demonstrate its useful purpose and role in society.

Anon, don't take it the wrong way, but that's exactly how I felt with Croix in the last two episodes. Andrew felt the more gradual and natural to me out of the two, putting aside his father, Paul also did a 180 in the end.

>>159839660
I would love to have an episode with these two.

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>>159840010

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>>159840234
I dont think you can read anon.

>>159839905
>Chariot, on the other hand, doesn't revolve around Croix. Due to her background and her relationship with other characters, she can keep perfectly going and growing as character
I want S2 to give her more fun and cute intearctions with Finneran, Holbrooke, Diana and of course, Akko.

And I want Badcock interacting with Lotte and Barbara

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>People will never stop discussing the best girl
Feels good

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>>159840540
Did her dyke haircut work with magic? And who the fuck decided it anyways? the hair down version is much better.

>>159840234
I like it, but I demanded Barbara and Lotte.

>>159840340
>Finneran, Holbrooke, Diana and of course, Akko.

Chariot's interactions with these four characters have the most fun potential in a hypothetical Season 2 how that she doesn't have to hide from them (except Holbrooke, who already knew).

>>159840540
We are dicussing her wasted potential in this season and how can her character can be saved, though.

I personally vote to turn her into a comical and a bit flamboyant character like Professor Scuthworth from Clone High.

There is going to be a future merch poll for in the Nick stream.

Remember to vote for DIANA.

So, is it safe to say Akko is kinda crazy?
Remidner that Lotte would sell Akko out in a heartbeat under threats of potion experments

>>159840660
Nico*

>>159840625
I think it was Handa's decision.

She does look bettee with her hair down.

>>159840660
I'm sorry, I'll vote for Chariot. Diana has her bases covered, so it will be alright for her.

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>Croix loses her cape
>Immediately becomes good again
Was the cape cursed? Where do you even get capes these days anyways

>>159840653
>comical and a bit flamboyant character
It seemed like they wanted her to be something like that, with the outfit and the random ramen scenes. Like how cartoon villains have some weird interest on the side, except LWA only had 25 eps to work with.

>>159840625
I knew her hair would go down at some point, but I guess they needed her to look like a villain till the end.
>tfw drew her with hair down 2 months ago

>>159840660
Diana's a guarantee already due to her nip fanbase alone. I'll vote for Diana, too. Don't worry, anon.

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>>159836307

>later that night

>>159840883
I wish they had special 26th episode to show what happened after magic was restored.

>>159839498
no, why?

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>>159836307
Sucy and Amanda must be seething with jealousy right off screen.

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>>159840883
>Like how cartoon villains have some weird interest on the side, except LWA only had 25 eps to work with.
They can still do that, even if she's in jail which makes it more fun. I remember an anon joking how they can bring her back for one episode to Luna Nova for plot reasons under heavy supervision and making an entrance a la Hannibal Lecter while Chariot and Holbrooke casually greeting her and Croix being pissed at them for ruining "the tension".

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>>159841160
Not really

>>159840954
Later, LATER that night....

>>159839290
It's only this way because they've decided they need Akko to be so involved with everything that happens.

It's like what appears to have happened with Jasminka. She's a one note joke character and is basically more mute than Constanze. So when the show gives episodes to Amanda and Constanze, Jasminka doesn't get one because it's like they've decided "she's kinda worthless, we don't know what we could do with her" - when this is only due to the limitations they themselves have apparently given her in the first place.

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Cyclops Witch Academia!

>>159841473
no

>>159837442
I ship everyone with everyone.

>>159841473

her canon name is lyla or leela right?

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>>159841563
Yes

Its canon

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>>159840954
You posted the wrong image.

>>159842098
Shes blindfolded anon

>>159836027
this is very good, but if you think about the characters choices, diana is the lawful neutral

lotte feels like the neutral good, because she seems ok with interacting with non-human things, but not so much that she'd betray anyone

that makes shiny the lawful good, due to her choosing to restore magic, LG doesn't always have to mean 'edgy paladin narc'

remember that it's choices that cause a person to inherit an alignment, not the other way around. Its confusing because many of the captions aren't representative of anything

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>>159842067
>leela
>not Hitomi
>not Manako
>not Mako
>not Irisu
>not any other superior monoeye name

Learn the lore

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>>159841473
Cyclops-Sensei a cute!

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>>159840954
>>159840234
>>159838459
>>159836307
>>159836590
>>159834149
>>159834108

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>>159842259

Sssh don't fight it anon.

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>>159841629
My nigga.

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>>159842311
I'll fight it with all the fiber in my being

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>>159834149
Akko truly does make the best reaction images.

Y'all are massively overthinking these characters.

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>>159833941
I want some /ss/ with that Witch

>>159836208
I think a problem with a potential /ag/ is that if a show has a general, there's a good chance you could make a topic on /a/ hoping to discuss a specific aspect of the show and you'll be told to piss off, but then if you go to /ag/ and try to bring it up your post could be ignored or even just reacted to negatively because of whatever insular thing the general is discussing at that time.

Generals aren't always all that friendly or accessible for people who are just starting out, aren't entirely up-to-date, or aren't necessarily as obsessive and well versed in the particular topic.

>>159842451
Diana is a complex and well-written character.

>>159842576
That means you should post more art of her with Akko.

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>>159842419

Why does Sucy love Akko's neck so much?

>>159842419
That's really cute. Just as cute as seeing Sucy heartbroken.

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>>159842576
Not as complex or well written as Croix though.

>>159842451
Just curious, which posts led to you make that post? Because I just see people discussing.

>>159842665
Thats only the TV series

>>159842576
>>159842753

0/10

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>>159842661
Its not just the neck

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>>159842665
You know it my negro.

>>159842824
Just in general, when talking about the flaws of season one or the potential for season 2. The whole show was rushed, but we all still like it - just relax and take it as it is.

>>159842753
That's surely a joke. The motivations behind Diana's actions are not only well explored but also nuanced and complicated.

The motivations behind Croix's actions seem to just be "I wanted to do that!"

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>>159842866
Not an argument.

>>159842975
>Reddit spacing

>>159842753
I'm a Croixfag and I know she was written like shit. It hurts

Reminder that a Kind Anon finished a Lotte/Sucy story last night. Heads up, it's not smut.

https://pastebin.com/0EiypCSa

>>159842576
This is bait.

>>159842932

Oh, I get you, the thing is that so far in this thread, the topic is being handled in a civil way (for /a/ standards) compared to the previous threads. And well, I think it's better to have it than just the run of the mill shitposting.

>>159843004
>Reddit spacing
see:
>>159843004
>Not an argument.

>>159842975
Look, let's cut the shit, objectively that's not true. You can say whatever you want about certain aspects of the show being rushed, but at least as much of it was devoted to the development of Croix as it was to Diana.

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Best friends!

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>>159842900
>a few days later at night

>>159843150
True that, at least. Hopefully it stays that way, even if I disagree with some of the points being made.

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>>159843153
You seriously need to go back, and take your blind & baseless Croix hate with you.

>>159842975
>That's surely a joke. The motivations behind Diana's actions are not only well explored but also nuanced and complicated.

I can't really agree with this. However, I agree she go the better development in this season.

>The motivations behind Croix's actions seem to just be "I wanted to do that!"
This is correct to an extent.

>>159843214
Why is Akko such a slut?

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>>159843172
>ywn have a cute loli Diana calling you onee-chan and promising to marry you when she's older

>>159843342
Her love is too big for just one person.

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>>159843316
>This is correct to an extent.
Explain, but think before you do.

Just finished it last night loved it.

So the big bad was a rouge AI, a literal a magic missle and soccer hooligans.

>>159843177
Go ahead anon, weigh it up for me. I don't think you can just count it by "screentime devoted to X", Diana's arc of 2 episodes + her talking with Akko over tea were used far more efficiently than all the faffing around, not getting anywhere, and literally doing the same things more than once that happened in the time devoted to Chariot and Croix.

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>>159843376

It hurts.

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>>159843304
I more or less agree with you but you should probably stop being so inflammatory.

>>159843398
Sounds like the plot to the next Metal Gear game.

>>159843004

Oh, you that moron who always says reddit spacing when someone gives a criticism about your shit waifu.

>>159843020
Oh shit, I missed the post. Any other writefags drop anything?

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No matter how you much you want to defend Croix, Croix development is the Shittiest compared to all key character in LWA (Akko,Diana,Chariot,Croix) Period.

Shes basically only said to Chariot, "Soon...." & "You cant stop me....." and keeps eating Ramen from Episode 15 to 23.
And Shes turned full 180, Helping Chariot & co in less than 10 seconds
Even sometimes Chariot is affected too because of her bad development, See Chariot flashback, very rushed as hell.

And i know most of you are suddenly love Croix because of this scene (pic related, i understand, shes hot with that poncho & no makeup) but please, that scene is shit, have a good taste for god sake.
That scene is a very cheap "redemption" scene, Tons of anime are doing those scene, and 95% of them are shit.
In case you from /co/ (there are lots of crossboarders on lwa thread), compare that scene with Korrasami ending on TLoK. They are both shit & feels forced.

>>159843469
Not the ESL anon but
>posting /m/ in /a/

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>>159843469

>>159843620
Hmm... point there anon.

They can see the rider kick in the archive anyway)

>>159843304
>You seriously need to go back, and take your blind blah blah etc...
Anon you keep making posts where you describe yourself. I can't go back because you're wrong about me being from there in the first place, but regardless, Reddit spacing is not a thing, and it can't be used to discredit what someone's saying.

So suck it up.

Oh no, I used the return key, guess I've somehow fucked up my argument.

>>159843715
>two Dianas

is this how obsessive Dianafags are?

>>159843445
I was actually going to write something about how I'm not going to "count the frames," haha. Over the course of the show a few things about Diana are revealed in more detail, many of which we have known since the first OVA. Despite there being a whole two episodes as well as other scenes, the ultimate takeaway is pretty simple: Diana has Akko's back. And that's good. There's a lot of development there. But Croix has that too, and her history with Chariot mirrors the development of Diana and Akko. A lot more of her development is portrayed and can be inferred through her behavior rather than through exposition. This is less of a focal point because her role and Diana's role in the story are different. By the end of the show, her redemption or promise of redemption is ultimately satisfying and self contained, moreso than Diana's relationship with Akko - we already knew almost everything there was to that. I personally found the conclusion of Croix's arc to be very satisfying. Does that make any sense?

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>>159843800

D I A N A

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>>159843607
You seriously need re-evaluate your views and your definition of "good taste."
That scene was done beautifully.
You also conveniently forgot to mention a lot details that were supposed to be read between the lines, details that make her character like an iceberg. Everything you posted about was just the tip.
Please, don't embarrass yourself any further.

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>>159843800

Worth it given how so well her development in TV LWA are.

>>159843304
>baseless

>>159843394
If we get down to the basics, both Diana and Croix motivations are the same "I wanted to do that". It just happens that Diana was pretty much accepting her circumstances while Croix was the contrary.

That doesn't make Diana any more complex, just differently executed. Croix needed more introspection, though.

>>159843875
You probably just shouldn't respond.

>>159843304
Please don't use my drawing to shitpost

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>>159843860
S U C Y

>>159843892
We know why Diana wanted to do what she wanted to do, we don't know why Croix did.

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>>159843787
>>159843892
>______ _______
You guys are relentless...
Why are you trying so hard to bring her character down? Do you guys have something against the writers? What's up?

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>>159843875

Anon you embarrasing yourself, not me.

Compare that scene with this. Every second of this scene is perfect.

>>159844022

Because she is badly written & rushed & shouldn't be on TV LWA in the first place.

>>159844050
Anybody got that image of how they started out seeing each other to how they ended up?

>>159843304
What the hell, I don't hate Croix. Can I just discuss her character in peace without devolving into biased perspectives?

Why are we still having this discussion when we all know what the root of the Croix writing issue is? It's the lack of depiction of the reasons she wanted to save magic so eagerly or why she wanted to be the very best witch ever.

Reminder that there is one autistic Croix hateposter and one autistic Croix bait poster who're both trying to rile shit up now that we're dying and have nothing else to talk about. Ignore either of them.

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Shame Croix's teaching career has ended so soon.

>>159844006
A whole lot can be inferred through the flashbacks. Sure, we didn't get a scene where Chariot talks about the parents of Croix or her childhood or whatever, but that's nnnnnot really important.

>>159844022
I don't know man, sometimes it comes off as seriously circle-jerky no matter how civil it is, but as long as it's genuine discussion it's hard to complain about.

>>159844186
Reminder also that we have a lot of autistic Dianaposters. Ignore those too

>>159844175

There are some retarded Blind Croixfags who thinks her Development is perfect.

>>159844204
There's probably a good chance of her returning as a teacher once she's completed whatever due to society she has.

>Okay, class, we have five minutes left. For fun, how about I tell you about the time I almost destroyed the school?

>>159844022
>Why are you trying so hard to bring her character down?

The show itself brings Akko and Chariot's characters down several times and we love them. Why it can't be the same with Croix? She's not perfect. Discussing her flaws and the writing problems doesn't mean we hate the characters or that we have something against the writers.

Of course, I can't speak for everyone. Every characters has their antifags, but I like Croix I just want to discuss her without Croixfags and Charoixfags getting pissy over everything.

>>159844282
Naw, I don't think anyone would say that seriously. There's a difference between admitting or discussing the faults in something and maliciously shitposting, though.

>>159844400
Why are you replying to bait? Clearly they have no intention to actually discuss.

>>159844006
Which is why I said that Croix needed more introspection.

>>159844400
It's one guy, probably falseflagging, trying to bait the ESL Croixhater.
Most other Croixfags know she's got problems but that doesn't stop them from liking her regardless.

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>>159844129
>>159844238
>>159844400
Aww... I guess you guys aren't that bad, even if some of you Reddit space. Why didn't you just say right off the bat that you didn't hate her?
Maybe I've been the one who's been a little too hostile.

>>159843875

Oh really ?? I'll bite.

- Why Croix is Jailed after 5 months timeskip ?
- What does Holbrooke do with Croix ? (Because Croix thanked Holbrooke on that scene)
- What does the teachers & students react (especially Akko & co) after they all knew Croix is the one that accidentally activates the nuke ?

That scene is Rushed but your blind waifuglasses preventing it for you to seeing it.

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>>159844569
It's okay anon. We're all friends here.

>>159844204
>>159844330

>Teacher

You people are so short-sighted. Croix is government agent material when she finishes prison, not a teacher.

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>>159844126

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>>159844733
Yeah, that's probable as well.

>Agent Croix
Yes, please.

>>159844634
>Why Croix is Jailed after 5 months timeskip ?
Have you ever considered that she was actually arrested not long after the events and the timeskip happens later? Because that's what happened, just that it was shown in a shoddy an not clear way.

>>159844733
Would be nice to see her wearing the outfit the magic police were wearing.

>>159844733
deep undercover?

>>159844897
I like the way you think.

Do you guys think Sucy still dislikes Diana?

>>159844917
Just not in Luna Nova.

I rather her have her own fun missions around the world.

>>159844893

So you admitting that scene is not done beautifully at all ?

Good for you, You finally understand Croix development is done poorly & rushed.

>>159845028
Did she ever? She just seems abrasive to anyone besides Akko and Lotte.

>>159845082
She still had that Diana in her dream sequence.

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>>159845028
I bet she has fits of jealousy.

>>159845045
I wouldn't mind either, or both.

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>>159845028
Its a given

>>159845050
>So you admitting that scene is not done beautifully at all ?
>Beautifully
I never said that in the first place, plus, I don't ship Charoix.

I'm just pointing out that some people haven't noticed that the timeskip happens right after Croix gets taken to prison, but that I don't blame them if they didn't because it was oddly delivered.

I only hope that they don't completely can her cube technoscience magic stuff. It actually looked cool and fits her well and she could retrofit them with some failsafes.
I just realized too that it kind of is like a parallel to Chariot's skill in transformation magic or that she might've been inspired by her show because her cubes keep transforming into animals as well.

The roombas need to go though, they're pretty shit.

https://twitter.com/nagochia/status/886106291680104448
https://twitter.com/nagochia/status/886107016975994880
>Imaishi: Now that Diana has come come out to Akko I want to see more loveydovey scenes (laughs)
>Diana doing the final Shiny Arc with Akko was Imaishi's suggestion. In the first draft of the script, Akko did it alone and Diana was just standing by her side but Imaishi said Diana needed to do it with her. Otsuka agreed.
>Imaishi got infected by Megumi

>>159845258

Oh, i thought you this blind croixfag >>159843875

>>159845455
Fucking what, Imaishi too? That madman.

>>159845455
>come out to Akko
"Come out as a Chariot fan."

He's still a madman, though.

>>159845399
I can I agree with that. The cubes can stay.

Hell, one of the cube goblins can act as her familiar. I wouldn't mind a roomba or to though. I find those cute. But still have Croix using a broom, like she should.

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>>159845455

OHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHO

>Yoshinari: Being a director is actually harder than animating.

>>159845455
prolly to make up for no ryuko/satsuki final battle in klk

>>159845574
I guess when he animates, there's a precise and perfect control over everything which might not be there, or be there in a different form, as a director (of animation).

>tfw no doujin where sucy lobotomizes diana with her poisons and rapes her while claiming akko her own

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>>159845399
>parallel to Chariot's skill in transformation magic
Oh what the fuck, I just realised this. The fucking pottery levels is off the charts

>>159845455
They're our guy, Diana getting yay eyes during was the icing on the cake.

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>>159845455
Based Imaishi

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>>159845641

>Tfw no doujin about Diana at all

>>159845723
There's the one where Diana gets TENTACLED

>>159845698
Maybe she was subconsciously imitating Chariot because she was jelly as fuck?

>>159845574
Considering >>159845455 was not actually part of his vision

Being Yoshinari must be suffering

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>>159845723
Soon, friend.

>>159833941

To be fair Sucy's mom being a sexy Kuntilanak from hell would only fit the character perfectly.

>>159845930

>Page 20
>Still not Naked

I have a bad feeling about that Doujin.
Maybe is not Hentai Doujin at all.

>>159845904
LWA has been changing from the beginning. His original idea was a goth dark comedy style project closer to something like Invader Zim or Creepy Susie.

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>Even Twitter still spams new Diana fanart

How can be this girl is so perfect

>>159845930
The hardest part about this is how on earth could you keep them in character and still have sex, it's unnatural because Akko is childish to a tee and Diana is too dim for lewd.

>>159845978
Bruh I'm okay with the comfy and cute shit.

>>159846056
I want to kiss those toes and lick those armpits!

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TOO
MANY
DIANAS

>>159846068
The start of it seems to be Diana taking the lead. That part looks like Akko reversed on her probably because of "rival" reasons.

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>>159846056
Here's the new one

>>159845455
Calm down fags, It's Diana coming off to Akko as a Chariot fan. Now I wonder how Diana's dynamics will be with Akko and Chariot.

This is hilarious in any case, I always imagined Imaishi ramdonly popping in the production and suggests a couple of things and fucking off right away giggling. The imaginations wasn't as far from the truth kek

>>159845861
Her outfit was clearly inspired by Shiny Chariot's costume as well, really makes you think

>>159846360
Well you know what they say. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

>>159845978
>needing them to be naked
You'll take your lovey-dovey shit and you'll like it.

>>159846549
Too bad Croix was blinded by salt, though.

>>159845455
>Megumi laughing maniacally in the background

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>>159834149
sausage guy diana needed transparency

>>159846897
Level it as well while you're at it.

>>159846897

Scan the LN & you got the best quality of smug Diana

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I love this fucking leaf!

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>>159846646
Chariot just wasn't a good friend.

>>159843848
>Does that make any sense?
No, not really.

Things we know about Diana:
Why does Akko piss her off so much throughout the first cour?
>Because Diana is a stickler for detail and it pains her to see someone be so terrible at magic, not seriously putting the work into it like she did when she was young
>Because Akko has no qualms telling people how much she loves Shiny Chariot - something Diana feels she cannot do
>Because Diana has found out Akko not only has the genuine Shiny Rod, but that it's also the actual key to unlocking the Grand Triskelion, and she feels she would be much better suited to the task than Akko, as in, she would get it done
>(also because Akko is literally close to Shiny Chario - I don't recall if it was made clear at what point Diana become certain who Ursula is, we know when she started to figure it out and we know when she outright stated it, but not whether she's reached that conclusion in ep 19)

Why does Diana now have Akko's back?
>Mainly because she helped Diana out a lot, she stopped Diana when she basically set out to escape from Akko, and she helped Diana during a trial, even allowing her to use the Shiny Rod
>Because in a sense they're kindred spirits, with their shared love of Chariot, having even attended the same show and suffered the same hardship as a result

What just generally motivates Diana?
>Upholding her family's values
>Inspiration from Shiny Chariot
>I guess just the will to succeed, especially since she once hit a really low point and got herself out of it by brute force

Things we know about Croix:
Why is she Chariot's friend, why does she have her back?
>Uhhhh, she saw Chariot sat on a bench looking glum and I guess pitied her?
>and then Chariot became a sort of assistant when seeking the Grand Triskelion

What motivates Croix to seek the Grand Triskelion?
>Uhhh, no reason really given, Maybe everyone aspires to be the one to do it to an extent, assuming they know about it.

I've hit the character limit...

>>159847084 (cont)
>Her later actions make her out to be fairly selfish.
>And she thinks she's hot shit.

Why was she shocked she didn't get the Shiny Rod?
>Because she felt she was far more qualified for it.

Why did she continue to help Chariot?
>Because she was her friend, and presumably she wants to be in on the glory. The Croix's POV thing in Polaris seems like there's warmth there that is genuine.
>But then there's that moment at the show when she explodes which kinda makes it clear she found Chariot more and more insufferable over the years, so the friendship was in a sense, a lesser priority, you can claim "well she just exploded, but it probably hurt her to yell all those things", but there's not particularly any evidence for that.

Upon returning, why did she so set out to effectively destroy Chariot?
>Just a weird, vaguely undefined megalomaniacal pettiness, like it's managed to become a seething hatred in Chariot's absence, which is generally the opposite of what extreme feelings do over a long period of time

Why did she seek to fuck things up for not just Chariot but also Akko?
>Because her hatred is so cartoonishly extreme, she wants to destroy the things Chariot loves too. Also, presumably she doesn't want them to beat her to the Triskelion. If unlocking the Triskelion was her priority, she would at least be tying to help Akko. Instead she wants it for herself.

>Why does she always stop just on the verge of destroying her
Because there's an internal conflict, she still sees her as a friend somewhere deep down. It's never really made clear why she likes her, or how her negative attitude towards her could even get so extreme in light of this.

Why did she so quickly realise the error of her ways?
>It doesn't really make sense. I guess the shock of something finally being out of her control? In the grand scheme of things it seems she only genuinely liked Chariot for a few years, so its weird the ending treats it like there was more there.

>>159847084
>What just generally motivates Diana?
You forgot her love for magic, which was a defininf character trait.

>>159846646
Must have been all the ramen.

>>159847084
>>159847130
wtf I like Diana now!

>>159847084
>>159847130

Chekmate, Blind Croixfags.

>>159847084
>>Uhhhh, she saw Chariot sat on a bench looking glum and I guess pitied her?
We don't even know how they met, its aggravating.

>she wants to destroy the things Chariot loves too
Also because Akko gave no fucks about the 7 words and just wanted to find Chariot, Croix's salt at this was quite understandable.

>>159847425
>Also because Akko gave no fucks about the 7 words and just wanted to find Chariot, Croix's salt at this was quite understandable.
Fair point, I glossed over that one. But it's pretty much akin to her reaction to Chariot having been endowed with the rod. Basically "I'm more worthy of it than these idiots", except amplified because one idiot is glorifying another idiot too.

>>159847084
>>159847130
You're looking way too far into some points while totally disregarding others. Does it matter to the plot how Croix and Chariot became friends in the first place? It doesn't, because the focus is on their present relationship. Does it matter to the plot how Diana and Akko became friends in the first place? It does, because the focus is on how they aren't going to repeat the mistakes of their predecessors. Hence the second OP. These are simply different priorities. Plus, Diana is a returning character while Croix is a newcomer to the series.

>>159847569
>except amplified because one idiot is glorifying another idiot too.
Kek, Akko and Chariot are so cute.

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>>159846986
I want to kiss her mid sentence as she's shitposting!

>>159847569
>Basically "I'm more worthy of it than these idiots"
As a motivation there really isn't anything bad about this though. It's completely relateable because everyone probably felt this at some point in their life, only this time it's basically her life goal, "stolen" by her cute but nonchalant idiot friend who really doesn't seem like she even wants it and then fucking up and squandering her gift, confirming her thought even further that she was the wrong choice.
I've seen people holding year long grudges for far less.

>>159845455
This was a great suggestion, though. Diana doing the final Shiny Arc with Chariot is more memorable and narratively fitting.

>>159847743
>Does it matter to the plot how Croix and Chariot became friends in the first place?
Kind of? It doesn't make sense to make an antagonist that was obviously going to be redeemed by the end from the OP, and just do her story halfway.

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Kwaa > Kurwa > Croicks > Chroist

>>159847743
>Does it matter to the plot how Croix and Chariot became friends in the first place? It doesn't, because the focus is on their present relationship.
Of course it does, what are you talking about? You need these details to understand the extent of their friendship, to know what they've effectively lost, and to understand how its apparent strength can end up overpowering the shitstorm that's brewed up between them in the meantime, with their final relationship status so neatly tied up at the end of the show with a neat little bow.

Like, if I was Chariot I would be harboring some fucking deep-seated resentment.
>she basically tried to kill me and endangered the ones I love and almost caused a nuclear armageddon all over a petty selfishness but it seems she's learned the error of her ways on a flip of a coin so I forgive her now and long for her to return from witch jail
This makes little sense to me anon. Because the supposed justification for it wasn't divulged.

>>159848029
That's more of a matter of script writing altogether rather than a specific character.

>>159847981
The problem is we aren't told why she wanted to be the greatest witch or why she felt so passionate about saving magic.

>>159848097
We've been saying this for months already that they didn't show enough of them actually being friends during their school years, like that Polaris flashback scene. It would've made their falling out actually quite heartbreaking if you got to see them being best chums before that.

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>>159847827
She's such a cutie! I wanna hug her and listen to her complain all day long!

>>159848097
We know they are/were friends. We know exactly what went down between them, what Croix thinks of it, what Chariot thinks of it, and how that results in the eventual outcome we see in the show. Everyone one of these details, the extent of their friendship, what they've effectively lost, and "how its apparent strength can end up overpowering the shitstorm that's brewed up between them" is directly shown.
That we know exactly how Chariot feels and why is a testament to the opposite of what you're saying, and, "if I was this character I would feel differently" isn't exactly a compelling argument. Neither is "this character is too forgiving."

This is what I meant by overanalyzing.

>>159847981
I wasn't saying it's bad, I was just saying her hatred of Chariot and her hatred of Akko are in the same ballpark

But I would say there does need to be more than that. I don't think Croix as Frank Grimes makes all that much of a compelling villain.

Anyone got those C&C greentext that some anon posted in the previous thread? I'm too lazy to go search for them

>>159848341
(cont.)
I do agree with >>159848296, though. Pretty much everyone would have benefited from more screentime, which is obvious.

>>159848176
But we know she does, which is really all that matters.

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I want to suck Chariot's tatas until milk comes out!

>>159848403
The futa ones?

>>159848341
Have you not heard the old adage "show don't tell"? Simply knowing these things isn't enough, they need to feel earned.

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>>159848428
She looks like an alien in that photo lmao

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I want to be a cute little witch with a nice bully butt!

>>159848460
That's exactly what happened in the show, I would argue. We're shown their interactions, not told, and the rest can be easily inferred. Of course, you're not wrong that they need to feel earned.

>>159848450
no, the Croix gets banned from Dota ones.

Can't find translated chapter 1 of Terio manga? Is it exist?

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>>159848525
I want to be a plucky little witch who loves plump rumps!

>>159848616
I'd rather have the futa ones.

Diana feels like a more rounded out and multifaceted character than Croix but there is really nothing wrong with that considering their roles.

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How is it possible to be this cool?

>>159848544
To clarify, when I'm talking about "show don't tell", I mean that what you're saying is we should be satisfied with the implied meat of the relationship being offscreen and we just understand that it apparently must be there by inferring from the end result. This isn't a satisfying way to tell a story, it's like watching only the last third of a movie and thinking "well there's another hour of this movie that I've missed so I guess what I'm seeing now would make sense had I seen it."

"I guess their friendship was strong enough in the end because somehow they're inexplicably okay with each other now" is telling the audience that unseen stuff was there, rather than having shown it.

>>159848772
That would be a fair point if this show was only about Croix and Chariot, but it isn't. It's the Diana and Akko show, which is totally fine.

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>ITT: Diana and Croix shitposers get mad at eachother for no reason.

I think that's not the problem here, they did show us plenty to establish that they actually were close friends, like the Polaris scene, the headpat and the photo Ursula kept around and the fact that they trekked to Arcturus together.
What they didn't do is giving them any scenes to establish any emotional commitment to their friendship so the audience would feel happy with them and sad with their falling out, which just made the conclusion to the episode 23 flashback feel strange and out of touch.

>>159848309
>listen to her shitpost all day long!

>>159848848
I don't think anyone is mad.

>>159848839
It's was the Akko show, they repeatedly said this. Diana became more important as the story progressed and the staff started to feel they needed to give Diana more spotlight.

>>159848848
The shitposting already died down, stop trying to fan the flames. There's actually actual discussion for once.

>>159848850
Accidentally ate my quote
>>159848460

>>159848772
And in general anime is mired with telling rather than showing across the board, mainly because of budget constraints.

I actually kinda quite liked the scene with Diana chatting with Akko, but I'm sure it could have been improved if they wrangled a way to give us more to look at than the two of them just sitting there.

>>159848848
>ITT, shitposters and baiters get BTFO by people actually having a civilized discussion.

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>>159848850
I like that a lot of the issues people bring up when talking about specific characters lies not with the characters themselves but rather with the way the script-writing was handled as a whole. The show is flawed, but we all still love it.
>now someone says "speak for yourself!"

>>159848924
I felt both that scene and the final scene with Akko and Chariot in episode 24 needed to be feel more climatic instead of being just two persons talking with each other. At least Diana and Akko's scene got climatic closure later in episode 25 and Imaishi's suggestion was genius since it lead to a direct call back to episode 23.

>>159849048
Isn't that always the case though?
They are purely fictional, so every problem relating a character can always traced back to problems in the way they wrote them.

>>159849066
I don't mind that it was more down to earth and personal. That made it more clear and satisfying IMO.

>>159849048
You said this earlier and I thought someone else would pick you up on it, but this is a weird thing to say, they're fictional characters, they're essentially defined by the script because the whole thing is a construct from the ground up. Without the script there would be no character to speak of, so of course a character problem is a script problem, you can't really say "the script didn't do the character justice" or something like that when the script is what defines the character in the first place.

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>>159848649
>who loves plump rumps
What are you trying to imply there, anon?

>>159849066
In hindsight I'm fine with them just talking to each other, I just wish the Noir Rod monster had a less anticlimactic battle.
But that was probably related to them scrambling all their talent together for the final episode that the last few suffered from mediocre animation quality.

>>159849124
In a very general sense I suppose that's true, but there's also a difference between "the individual actions of a character" versus "how the script as a whole is approached."

So, what kinda stupid shit will Akko,Diana and Chariot get up to while the majority of the spotlight is focused on their friends now?

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>>159849248
That you have a bountiful behind of course!

>>159849266
Episode 22 had good animation but it still had that long recycled animation flashback.

>>159849294
I don't know what you expect S2 to be like, but I don't expect Akko or Diana to lose their current roles. All Yoshinari said is he wants to do a few episodes without Akko, just like how they had episodes without Lotte and Sucy.

>>159849216
>you can't really say "the script didn't do the character justice" or something like that when the script is what defines the character in the first place.
This isn't necessarily true either, they'll always have more cool ideas about characters and their development than they'll manage to put into the show. I'm sure when the databook comes out people will be complaining about all the cool ideas they didn't put into the actual anime, like with the superpowered shaman Lotte.

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>>159849248
Just let me eat your ass, Barbara!

>>159849387
The Lotte thing got discarded since the first OVA, like Sucymom or Elizabeth.

>>159849216
What I'm saying is that it's not that a specific character was poorly written, but the entire script could have been handled better in general (outside of maybe Akko and Diana).

>>159849435
I think a lot of their problems might have been driven by needing to think about things in a way that would save them budget. KLK was the same. They discarded a few cool scenes from the many artbooks they released due to budget.

>>159849435
Even Diana could have been handled better, the stalking in episode 15? was cute but after that she was off the radar till she left Luna Nova.

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Where are the lewds of this shitposting leaf?

>>159849512
That's possible. I'm actually a fan of how budget saving measures in shows can result in more interesting or inventive scenes/animation, but it doesn't always work out. They did say something about the production in regards to that in one of their panel Q&As, IIRC.