>harem mc has male friend
>his personality and looks are more or less equal with him
>all harem girls shit on him with the only reason being that the otaku self insert can't be threatened and all other male characters need to be rendered chaste
>>159825205
>personality and looks are more or less equal with him
>personality
>Sunohara
>>159825205
The best harem I've ever read is Jitsu Wa because it does the exact opposite of that. All the MC's friends are actually fleshed out respected characters who interact and get into a relationship with the girls.
>>159825205
Maybe, if Sunohara wasn't retarded in his interactions w/ the girls, they would've liked him more? I dunno, just a thought.
>>159825205
Why post Sunohara when there are actual examples of what you described?
>>159825205
The only girls that shit on Sunohara were Kyou and Tomoyo.
>>159829287
Oh, and Misae. In the VN Sunohara tries to skin her cat so he can sell its fur, by the way.
>>159829287
>That one scene where Kyou hits on Sunohara
Sunohara is best wingman. Tomoya doesn't deserve him.
>>159825205
Only eunuchs are permitted in a harem. How does this come as a surprise?
What would you rather have, the harem owner getting cucked?
This is why I wish Little Busters received a sequel, as everyone put themselves in a pretty unique situation.
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>>159829382
>Sunohara is best wingman
>tfw basically played the VN only to see him being a bro and dropped it as soon as it looked like he wasnt going to be there anymore
We need more wingmen.
>>159829641
Sunohara is just comic relief in most of the routes. From what I can recall he's only actually helpful in Kyou's and Nagisa's routes, and I guess at the end of Mei's route. He's only in After Story for a few scenes and he has a cameo in Tomoyo After. So yeah if you were playing the VNs for Sunohara I can see why you would be disappointed.
There's always the joke route where Tomoya turns gay and makes Sunohara date him, of course.
>>159825205
Sunohara definitely could have taken an imouto route if he wanted to.
>>159825205
>posts sunohara as example
It's a pity that harems are going full fantasy and removing even the Irrelevant Comic Relief Male Best Friend so that the cast is just the MC and 20 girls who worship him.
>>159829791
Actually I went in without knowing anything besides the fact that it has the nakige tag. Got bored and only enjoyed the VN when Sunohara was present, leading to the already posted results.
>>159825205
They are either that or homo for the MC.
>tfw you will see a based bro get his own harem.
>>159830062
How about a whole series where the MC is the best friend to the harem-center.
>>159830242
>Ore wo Suki Nano wa Omae Dake ka yo
>>159830242
Ah, a MC who I can actually self insert to.
>>159830358
>>159830448
Sunohara should have been a girl
>>159830478
>Spanish PTSD kicks in
>>159825205
>harem mc has male friend
Astolfo
But this is canon