Am I the only one who despises all forms of fan service in anime?

>>159466987
Watch more anime and get over it, retard. You'll run out of manime before you get to the required 300 completed to post on /a/.

>>159467010
I can tolerate it

it just goes against my preferences

Yes, you are literally the only person who holds that opinion.

>>159466987
>implying you're favourite anime doesn't have fan service
Why do you think you like it in the first place, retard?

>>159467060
Gee maybe I care about character development and story arcs

Fuck this sexualized normalfag world honestly

>>159466987
Fan service is a pretty broad term.

>>159466987
You probably don't even know what is fanservice,; and watch more anime, you'll learn to appreciate it, like a good vine.

>>159466987
You're not, only horny 12 year olds think it's acceptable.

>>159467032
I-Is this sarcasm

>>159466987
Fan service isn't just anime titties in your face. That's just one of the most common forms of fan service. So yes you are probably the only one.

>>159466987
If fanservice bothers you this much you shouldn't be watching Anime in the first place.

>>159467098
>vine
*wine, what the hell is wrong with me.

>>159467120
No this is Patrick.

>>159467087
>character development and story arcs
Those are fan service.

>>159466987
Of course not. But at the same time wanting it to disappear is impossible, so there's not much to discuss.

That's a pretty Reddit opinion my dude

yes I do too. also otaku culture disgusts me and I think anno was right

>>159467176
are you pretending to be retarded?

>>159467216
Are you?

>>159466987
Fanservice is fine as long as it's subtle or tasteful in more serious shows.

>>159467219
no, are you?

>>159467216
>he doesn't know how many people screamed "GET IN THE ROBOT" during the first few episodes of EVA.
Anon, character developments are fan service. You're just used to the feminist definition of that word.

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>>159466987
>all forms

>>159467245
I wouldn't know, I don't watch garbage anime

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Fanservice is such a cheap way to attract manchildren it hurts.

>>159467273
Doesn't sound like you watch any anime. Go back to where you came from.

>>159467273
Epic comeback, /b/ro.

>>159467288
Sorry to disappoint but that's fanservice as well, edgy boy.

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>>159467309

>>159466987
To some extent. I don't really mind it, but it's not as if I'll go out of my way to watch a show that revolves around it either. It gets boring after a while after all.

>>159467284
>Getting this defensive after being outted as a manchild virgin loser who lusts after cartoon characters
Sad

>>159466987
>Am I the only one
You might just be the special snowflake of this generation.

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>>159466987
>>159467087
>>159467216
>>159467273
>>159467288
>>159467330
>>159467365
>I only watch mature anime for mature people, such as myself

Depend on the fanservice
I dislike pantsu shit because 99% of the time they just threw it in your face without trying to be creative about it.

>>159467509
throw*

>>159467492
That's not at all how I see it

This is in no way derived from any feeling of elitism

I never claimed to not have garbage taste

>>159466987
>fan service
The fact that you used the word fanservice without specifying ecchi fanservice shows you think both are synonyms, i.e. a casualfag. There's all types of fanservice for all types of people. BL-fanservice for fujoshi, gun-fanservice for military otaku, sport fanservice, yuri fanservice, yaoi fanservice, car fanservice, shipping fanservice, motorcycle fanservice, otaku culture fanservice,...etc.

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>>159467492

>>159467561
I'm referring to all forms of sexual fanservice

I think most people ITT understood that, but your point is valid

>>159466987
I don't care too much for panty-shots, butt-shots, or pretty much anything that can show an animators lack of knowledge of human physiology if that's what you meant by fanservice.

>>159467580
>I'm referring to all forms of sexual fanservice
Nothing in the OP says anything about sexual though.

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If all a series has to offer is promises of service that they never deliver on, you're probably watching a bad series.

>>159467627
He probably just learned in this thread that fanservice isn't only sexual.

>>159466987
I don't really like it, but don't really hate it. If it's there, as long as the show is fun to watch it's okay.

>>159467561
>shipping fanservice
Is that a fanservice for buyfags?

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>>159467740
Heh

>>159467580
Adding ecchi to a story from another genre is like adding moe or comedy, it's fine if it's additional service to a workable story. But if the story relies solely on the service without having anything else to offer like >>159467646 says, it's a bad thing that people often said it was killing the industry. Good thing lately, this kind of thing isn't as common as it was a few years back. If you're complaining about ecchi in a harem ecchi story, the fault lies with you.

>>159467740
It's service for people who like to lie down in piers and pretend to be ships.

>>159467904
>>159467646
The problem is that it isn't entirely benign

Fanservice often dehumanizes a character or breaks immersion

>>159466987
>all forms
You know literally any time a show does something that will appeal to its fans it's fan service, right? Even in LotGH, Ruenthal vs Schenkopf is fan service. Yang and Reinhard having a a conversation is fan service for that matter.

>>159467988
It really depends what kind of fanservice we're talking about, I like when a show without fanservice has some random but natural panty shots.

>>159467988
>often
Not often. That depends on how competent the people placing the service scenes are. So you're essentially complaining about bad placing and bad timing that breaks the flow of the plot not fanservice itself. Adding some well-drawn eye-candy to a show be it cute or sexy usually adds to the visuals if the people making the show aren't literal retards.

>>159466987
If the show has enough substance to keep you interested, then I don't mind fanservice, but I fucking hate when they do an episode where everybody goes to a beach/pool just to show off their hot bodies for 20 minutes.

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>>159466987
Why? You gay or something?

>>159468298
This

The teenagers that inhabit this board will disagree

>>159466987
If it's not the fanservice that carries the show then I don't mind it.

>>159468298
>>159468384
I'm an adult and I disagree. Visuals are an important aspect of anime productions.

Nothing wrong with people showing off their bodies on the beach. Stop the femnazi bullcrap.

>>159468356
You're joking, right?

You clearly don't even properly know what fanservice is.

>>159468401
Fanservice is just as legitimate as any other storytelling devices.

Think hentai. A good hentai is based on how good the sex scenes are.

>>159468434
Yeah I'm a dumbass and should have phrased things differently, this has already been determined

Unlike westerners, nips aren't afraid of the human body.

>>159468455
are you retarded? Answer honestly.

>>159468423
>>159468498
Please stop posting and go lurk a bit before you embarrass yourself anymore.

>>159468498
Well how about you fuck off to reddit and refrain from posting such ignorant nonsense in the future?

>>159468527
Put back your name OP.

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>>159468298
I fucking hate it when they go to the beach but nobody is swimming. Just splashing water around like retards.

>>159466987
It's very annoying to read something that isn't hentai or ecchi and just getting sexual stuff. Like dude I'm not here to fap, I'm here to read about the struggles of the imperial household in the Sengokou period.

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terms /a/ uses that trigger you

>world building
>character development
>arc

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>>159469135
Yeah I fucking hate it when that happens. It's a Sengoku period drama and then suddenly these perverts are talking about sexy teacups

>>159468981
Yeah in japan people don"t swim they just soak a bit in the sea water then go home.

>>159468981
I never understood the whole not being able to swim thing? How is it even possible to be physically incapable of doing something so simple and instinctual?

>>159469465
It's even more baffling if you know the blonde's (in the picture) background story. Her mother gave her all sorts of lessons like piano and other useless shit, yet she can't fucking swim.

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>>159469336
>tfw you completely shut down their monk

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>>159466987
I bet you think this isn't fanservice

>>159469650
what did he mean by this

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>>159469865

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>>159469865
I wish you're baiting anon cause that's fucking stupid

I don't watch anime, i only read manga

>>159466987
Sometimes it's offensive

Not in the 2ecchi4me sort of way

Just patronizing

>>159466987
Most fanservice is good, or at least fine, but occasionally a creator will throw ass and titties in the viewers' faces to distract them from the mediocre plot, which is when it gets annoying. At that point, the best thing to do is either masturbate or drop the show.

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I don't really like sexual fan service too much but I really enjoy pointless gore so not sure if I have the right to complain.

>>159466987
I don't dislike all fanservice, but I loathe any fanservice that's shoved down my throat, as well as characters that are designed solely for the sake of fanservice.

Fanservice is at it's best when it's incidental (i.e Gunbuster).

Light fanservice is ok to me. Like letting the character be cute, or showing a little cleverage once in a while, without letting it interfere with the plot, it's ok. Like Naruto, OP, DBZ.

But to a manga littered with fanservice like Fairy Tail or Souma, no thank you.

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>>159472997
>I only read shounenshit
Did you write this?

>>159468356
Wtf is this shit? That's atrocious

>>159473055
What manga is this?

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>>159473117

>>159473157
Caring about the sauce of a meme.

>>159473117
The reviewer is talking about Diabolik Lovers.

>>159466987
I love it, not because I fap to it because it's a bother to do so while watching.

I love it because it keeps normalfags out of the hobby.

>>159474476
you're fucking retarded, it's dumb normalfags like you who think with their dicks

>>159466987

No but that doesn't make you not an autist

Yes and you're also a faggot. The reddit community and SJWs will welcome you fully

>>159474866
>implying normalfags don't hate fanservice because its "creepy" and "childish"

No, okama-kun. You're the normalfag just like all those toonami babbies who just watch shounenshit. I bet you think OPM and SnK aren't normalfag

>>159475254
Why would you care what normalfags watch? Just watch shit you like.

>>159475427
To keep them out. Bring out all the lolis and ecchi fanservice so the normalfag 2matoor4ecchi flock back to shitty capeshit and tumblr cartoon

(I don't mind it in some of the older ones, mainly because it felt less like the character traits and growth were *primarily* aimed towards fan-service and wish-fulfillment...first make a good character, my dick will naturally become diamonds before a single side-boob is seen)

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>>159475254
>normalfags have an upstanding moral compass

>>159467288
I don't mind some fan service, problem is it has become synonymous with lewd pandering.

>>159466987
no, I agree with you, but it's a waste of time trying to discuss it on this place of manbabies who watch anime as a surrogate for their missing romantic life, rather than to enjoy a good story.

>>159476133
Well duh, normalfags are hypocritical and hate anything sexual because they're insecure that it's creepy and weird

>>159476217
Depends on who you talk to, but most of the time, the whole "surrogate" thing is just a meme.

Yea sexual gimmicky characters make me consider dropping a show, although i never do because i dont bother watching those types of shows in the first place

>>159476217
Then read a book or you just watch shit that is on some top 10 in a facebook weeb group

>>159476266
I thought normalfags loved DxD or hotd.

>>159466987
I don't mind it but it makes it harder to watch in the living room since I still live with my parents

>>159474476
>it keeps normalfags out of the hobby.
no, we just watch good anime and read good manga, while you fill your brain with shit.

>>159476362
What on some a youtube clip comment? Nope, normalfags hate ecchi especially lolis and eat up shitty shounen OPM and SnK

>>159476480
I always thought that normalfags loves to eat shit as long as it has cowtits fanservice.

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>>159476266
>
>in an age where people celebrate sexuality in the streets
keep lying to yourself pervert you're no better than your "normalfag" boogeyman
for context pic related was taken in 2008 of a gay drinking piss and fapping in public under state protection

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I love it

>>159476353
Not him but I enjoy watching anime with lots of pointless violence and retarded plot. How much of those do we get these days? Maybe one every few years, simply not enough.

>>159476561
Well, you're wrong. They eat anything resembling capeshit/shounenshit/edgyshit.

Oh, boy, another shitty "I don't like sexual fanservice" thread. How the fuck did most of you even come to like anime if this turns you off so much?

>>159476665
How many of these did we get back then?

>>159476411
>there are no good anime or good manga with fanservice

>>159471107
is this webm supposed to represent pointless gore because it isn't

>>159476610
Newsflash it ain't 2008 and those people are what you the thr classical weebs. Yeah, they celebrate sexuality, GAY sexuality and hate anything else because its "creepy" and "objectifying" but keep telling yourself you ain't a normalfag

>>159466987
For me it feels like an insult.

I wonder how horrified japs are of human relationships, because love interests are becoming more and more retarded.

Also, i wonder how some 40 year old man feels drawing a panty shot so some fat smelly bastard can go kawaiii moe moe.

makes me sad.

>>159476708
Its always happen on this season

>>159476838
>not the same because its gays
what's slut walk?
what's the pornography business?

>>159476953
Anon, I think you're lost, what are you doing here?

>>159476953
very true

>>159476967
Yeah, the slut walk that's code for dyke march and pornography always has stigma and never celebrated in mainstream media as anything other than objectification. Nice try though,must be nice mentally stuck in the mid-2000s

>>159476953
If that's was his intetion then he's doing their job they like and you're just a faggot pirating their work

>>159476718
Maybe not tv shows, but lots of ova's and movies. Stuff like MD Geist, Angel Cop, Violence Jack, Devilman(this one got an ova recently though but I didn't watch it yet) etc...
>>159476826
I didn't mean literally pointless, just so stupidly over the top that it makes you laugh. If I remember correctly that episode opens with that scene which makes it even better.

>>159476953
The term itself is insulting.

Here's how I see it: Why erotism is fine when it's done in movies and series, but bad when done anime? Why the double standards? Why movies like Bitter moon are regarded as pieces of art while fanservice in anime is treated as shit for perverts when it's literally the same shit?

Also, fanservice is literally everything placed in the story to please fans, so it's literally impossible for a fan to hate every kind of fanservice. Assuming you are using the popular definition of the word, it's also likely that you do like fanservice but either doesn't realize, or don't want to admit it.

>>159477015
dont get me wrong i absolutely love a good romance or harem.

but it feels like it went overboard and today it is hard to find anything but slife of life - cute girls doing cute things.

>>159477164
But, just imagine it maan...

You go to an ACTUAL university - you probably know how to draw, know who rembrandt is and what not, spend for years dreaming about art, and your dream of a serious art work gets destroyed by moe anime gyaru gyaru Love! 1000.


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>>159476953
>Someone is making money out of the sexual desire of others
Stop the fucking presses.

God, people are really, really retarded. Our society is totally cucked.

>>159477266
>it is hard to find anything but slife of life - cute girls doing cute things
Actually right now there are a lot less SOL than let's say, 10 years ago? Do you even know what you're talking about?

>>159476953
>I wonder how horrified japs are of human relationships, because love interests are becoming more and more retarded.

explain

>>159477246
Because it's more natural in movies in series (nudity or sex). In anime it's usually just some bizarre perverted shit with close-up and embarrassed girls.

>fanservice is literally everything placed in the story to please fans
This alone is bad. A work of art should be an expression of individual artists, his thoughts and feelings contained into his creation. If someone creates something for fans then he is not an artist but a merchant.

>>159477266
Nope, those universities are but a meme where uncreative fucks just indoctrinate themselves on what's "acceptable" taught by failed hacks. Artists express themselves and do what they love, so no. You're just a faggot

>>159477312
Of course, this is not bad. But as an actual job i bet you get jaded fast.

In a way, the more leeway you have over an artist, the less of an artist he is.

>>159477376
The way i see it, japanese society must be really frustrating or unfullfilling, and you see anime becoming more fantasy like and all the female characters losing any "mature" quality - only childlike quirks remain because, fuck, imagine having your delusion of a perfect woman crushed even in your product?

So everything becomes more babylike.

Sometimes, this is good, sometimes bad.

For me, i wonder if there is any manga that deals with bullying in jap schools or what not to read it.

>>159477420
You are a sad excuse of a human being where have you been hiding from society? How is it news that sex sells? Are you underage?

>>159477266
>but it feels like it went overboard and today it is hard to find anything but slife of life - cute girls doing cute things.
Are you blind? There's variety nearly every season.

>>159477420
And when they express themselves through ecchi fanservice, you're gonna cry about it like a faggot, right?

>>159477246
>Why erotism is fine when it's done in movies and series, but bad when done anime
I really don't find it fine. Those critics who decide what is art and what isn't can suck my dick.

>>159477539
No, I will say that their work is worthless.

>>159477455
>Artists express themselves and do what they love

And how many artists will never get this chance because anything but moe is not profitable?

I dont think it is just doing what you want - someone needs to cover the expenses, or you need to live while chasing that dream. And it is possible that PRECISELY because you think it should be more serious, no one wants it.

A mediocre harem still gets better ratings and purchase than a horror, or sci fi anime in the end.

>>159477500
Those types still think Kon is airing for some reason.

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>>159477496
>all the female characters losing any "mature" quality - only childlike quirks remain

what about the exceptions?

being uncomfortable with anything in fiction is just a sign of immaturity.

>>159467010
>required 300
it's 800, faggot. get back to lurking.

>>159477498
>its the current year pops
>grow up kiddo
you're not even consistent in your insults is this the effect of consuming trash products on your brain

>>159477615
What give you the impression that moe artists don't love what they draw?

>>159477699
But this is irrelevant. Most moe shows are uncreative garbage.

>>159477752
t. watched under thirty series

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>>159477266
Japs aren't the first, nor they will be the last to use art as a means to express sexuality and erotism. Some of the most praised and famous works of art in history are basically erotic or blatant objectification of women.
>>159477420
>Because it's more natural in movies in series (nudity or sex).
That's quite literally just how you perceive it. Nothing but an arbitrary view on the matter.

>In anime it's usually just some bizarre perverted shit with close-up and embarrassed girls.
In Bitter moon there's scenes where the guy says he likes to drink his wife's piss and another where he dresses like a little pig while she chases him up with a whip. That's totally degenerate and perverted shit. You are basically saying ''my perverted shit is better than yours'', which is bullshit.

>A work of art should be an expression of individual artists
A work of art, is, and always was also, to please other people. A artist that doesn't have his work recognized is basically nothing. Art that doesn't appeal to anyone is shit.

>, his thoughts and feelings contained into his creation.
And erotism/sexuality isn't part of his thoughts and feelings? Why you pretend that making something arousing is bad or unnatural when sex is something that dominates 80% of our thoughts?

Also, reminder that some of the best artists in history loved to drew perverted stuff and girls depicted in extreme objectified ways.


You're full of shit. You are a prude. You don't understand art. You are a normalfag.

Fuck off.

>>159476561
You're confusing normalfags to 13 year old teens who just popped their first boner.

>>159477752
Most fiction is uncreative garbage.

>>159477699
Well, it is hypocritical that while i complain about moe, i do the same thing - demanding that the current standard changes. Still, i do wonder - sometimes for me, moe seems like it is limiting anime as a medium.

>>159477786
>Why you pretend that making something arousing is bad or unnatural when sex is something that dominates 80% of our thoughts?
Sex is for animals, I try to be above animals.

>>159477615
Nope, you're just imposing your shiity views on the artists thinking they don't like doing this.

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>>159477863
Fedora tier post right here.

>>159477843
You're making a biased complaint that newfags have made since sailor moon sprung into existence. Moe isn't new or limiting the "industry". Japanese people like cute things.

>>159477868
well, it could be true i guess.

>>159477934
> Japanese people like cute things.

True.

>>159477863
Goddamn, I thought the cucked westerner was a meme but bloody hell. Don't trip on those mountain dewritos, fedoracuck

>>159477843
You can just watch western animation if you want to see ugly art and character designs.

>>159477863
I wish your parents thought the same thing so they wouldn't give birth to such a numale sissy faggot that makes cuck posts on the internet.

>>159477786
>In Bitter moon
How is it portrayed? With close-ups? Does the film have something else to offer?

>bullshit
It's not bullshit. I like perverted stuff if it's interesting and creative. Ecchi anime is not interesting or creative.

>>159477615
>anything but moe is not profitable
But that's wrong.
>mediocre harem still gets better ratings and purchase than a horror, or sci fi anime
Tell that to all those battle harem shows that sold like shit.

>>159476953
Human relationships are retarded. They're potraying them just fine.

>>159477990
For me the big issue is as i get older (24 btw) there is less and less anime to keep me interested. I used to love most romance stuff but these days i cant really get into it. I already dropped vidya so anime is like the last dying hobby of mine.

>>159478123
>24
Leave. We'll talk again when you're 30.

>>159477584
Again, this is retarded. Sex is a very big part of us. It's drive for many of our actions and thoughts. It changes our behavior. It's one of our strongest urges and it's a very complex matter.

Why It shouldn't be expressed artistically? Why this is sudden a problem? Humans have sex, they like sex, they like erotism and they are attracted to everything that stimulates us in a sexual way. Deal with it.

>>159478123
Nice blog. Just take a break from anime for a while if you don't like it dumbass. No one will miss you.

I feel the same, its one of the reasons anime will never be seen as a legitimate story telling medium.

>>159478151
im 30 year old man.i like watching cute girls doing cute things aguu~

>>159477863
Good thing your bloodline ends with you then.

>>159467288
What is this? Looks great.

>>159478198
Same but unironically.

>>159478009
>It's not bullshit. I like perverted stuff if it's interesting and creative. Ecchi anime is not interesting or creative.
Excuse me? Japan is one of the most creative and innovative countries when it comes to the production of perverted stuff in art. Most western stuff is very tame and lame in comparison.

>>159476953
Why does it matter? You like it when people make things that appeal to you so where's the harm in something appealing to people who like things you don't? I know you want to strawman people who like sexual fan service as gross basement-dwellers but they run the whole spectrum of weight and social skills just like the fanbase of literally anything else. It's just odd that you're coming to anime, something more geared toward the niche of people who enjoy sexual fan service in general and then complaining that it's not to your liking. I don't like capeshit or cop dramas so I just don't watch Western TV or movies but you aren't going to hear from me whenever said things get made because I know to just avoid the media more geared toward it.

TL;DR: Sexual fan service fills a niche just like the stuff you like so coming to the media that specializes in it and complaining is retarded.

>>159478197
In the end, the west wins again with superior literature and supreme works of art, while the glorious east creates shovelware of cute moe more horseshit.

Ha!

Truly, we are chosen to be victorious.

>>159478123
>24
So a fuckboy or a cuck who think they're all "grown up" . Come back when you're not a cuck who is insecure with anything sexual or anything else in general

>>159478278
>reddit spacing

>>159478244
congrats you're a human failure

>>159477786

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1PJHrTI7zI
Yeah, compare this and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDxaV9fH-Bo

Truly the same. That two minutes of Bitter Moon already look better and more interesting than any moe/ecchi shit released this year. 2 minutes were enough to establish a more interesting relationship than most anime do in 12 episodes.

>>159477920
>>159477985
>>159477998
Keep yourselves entertained with your biological desires, meanwhile I will aspire for something far greater.
>>159478200
Do you think I care about such things?

>>159478278
The vast majority of western art and literature has been total garbage after WII. I'll take my cute moe nip cartoons over the run of the mill Hollywood film.

>>159478354
>Hollywood
>Western art

Sorry, cant hear you over my glorious European literature. Go jerk off to baka baka onii chaan.

>twf even japs consider all western art supreme

silly weeaboo.

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>>159478197
>Yeah man, I hate this anime fanservice shit. It's why I can't take the medium seriously
>Do you see that Bro? Game of Thrones is starting. It's a mature show for mature people such as myself, not like these chinese cartoons shit
>20 nude girls appear while character is explaining his war plan
>So...do you see Sir Brandon. I....*fucks some prostitute while he explains*will send my armies from behind
>*Girls eating each other while other character responds*
>See Bro! This is truly the mature and complex story for mature and complex individuals I was talking about!

>>159478354
>i choose eating shit over drinking piss
reasonable choices over here but true question proposes itself why not both?

>>159478339
>I will aspire for something far greater
>not I aspire for something far greater

>>159477266
>moe anime gyaru gyaru Love! 1000.
Do you even watch these cute girl shows before complaining or did you just hear they were bad from your anime community and just assume they're all bad?

>>159478339
>meanwhile I will aspire for something far greater.

like wasting your time on message boards like 4chan?

Am I the only one who hates how modern anime depicts women?

I don't mean that in a SJW kind of way, but rather in the sense that most women in anime are depicted as being girly rather than womanly.

In older anime, female characters tended to be very sexy and confident, where as now they tend to be weak moeblob that try to do cutesy and innane shit, with poor body proportions.

>>159478339
>Do you think I care about such things?
Neither do I but I find it your delusions of grandeur amusing. Especially the part where you think you'll do anything of worth in your lifetime.

>>159478429
Name quality literature written by anyone born after WWII. I like quality writing as well, but it's pretty much a dead art. The same is true for classical music.

>>159466987
But I like muh JoJo references.

>>159478501
Cute is stronger.

>>159478501
>In older anime, female characters tended to be very sexy and confident
Not really.

>>159478501
Yes, I hate how they look and how they act. In older anime many characters were women, nowadays there are barely any women in anime.

>>159478501
There's actually more strong and confident women characters now than before. You're just blind by personal perception

>>159478501
No fuck off. The girls in anime are dominant enough as it is. Everytime a clueless MC gets beaten to shit by tsundere girls for no reason. Rarely there has been an MC that can avoid this trope

>>159466987
Probably. Even non-anime has gratuitous amounts of something to please the audience, especially sexual.

>>159478574
Yes, remember when in older anime there was more wom-

Wait, that never fucking happened. Anime was always dominated by teenagers and young girls with older women being the exception, as it should be.

>>159477615
Artists in Japan aren't going to dislike doing it just because you dislike it.
>>159477752
Give me some examples. Also, stop using the term moe. Using it is praising the shows. You're essentially calling the characters in these shows you allegedly dislike endearing.

>>159478501
Stop watching high school anime

>>159478511
infinite jest

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>>159466987
Probably. But I was really happy when Trigger made LWA without any pantsushots.

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>>159478501
wait for the inevitable anime

>>159478613
They should put a somalian as the MC.

>i-i didn't ask you to see me naked b-baka
>slap
>I AM MOHAMMED MBETULLU
> I WILL AVENGE MY HONOR
>Uehara Yukiko was found dead at...


Problem solved.

God. I hate /pol/, but I have to concur that they are right on this point, the west is truly cucked beyond repair.

Also, the fact this thread is still up is embarassing and proof /a/ isn't what it used to be

>>159478501
I always liked strong girls in my animu. Moe shit annoys me.

>>159478669
Thanks for the rec. I'll try it one of these days.

>>159478761
There is nothing wrong with this thread. We are discussing shitty trends in modern anime.

I dislike how most anime depicts everyone as retarded.
Retard fanservice needs to stop.

>>159478815
>SJW shit that always attracts shitposting to the maximum and was discussed to death several times already
>Shit that shouldn't belong on this board
>Not anime, just people complaining that they get upset when they see boobs
>Not anime
No, fuck off

>>159478815
>modern anime
It's always the same type of retards new to anime that think everything used to be "cool and mature" and that moe and sexiness is a new thing thats ruining the industry.

moeshit

>>159478613
this.women are always portrayed as helpless useless vaginas or men with curves and boobs.rarely they find the right balance

>>159478887
>discussin animu is not animu
Okay.

It's a show ruiner. I love slice-of-life anime but it's exceptionally prone to excessive fanservice. Even Non Non Biyori had a fucking fanservice episode, and Yama no Susume's second season was completely ludicrous. I would have loved Flying Witch if it didn't constantly degenerate into ass worship.

>>159478687
If it were the exact same except with pantyshots, would you really unironically like it less?

>>159478915
And what's the right balance?

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>>159478815
>trends in modern anime
>imfuckingplying
Got to love nostalgiafags.

>>159478434
who are you quoting?

Fanservice goes beyond accidental groped and pantsu shots. Everything from gun porn like >>159467288 to long pans of a beautifully drawn scenery is fanservice. Every anime has fanservice, even if it's not of the sexual kind.

>>159478761
Old /a/ would be checking digits by the first 10 posts.

>>159478934
You must be gay.

>>159478917
>Discussing animu=Complaining that sexuality upsets you

>>159478935
Yes. I would feel a slight bit disgusted and that would make me like it less.

>>159466987
>fan service
Do you know what this even means?

>>159478815
>in modern anime
You think that sexual fanservice was invented in fucking 2005? Holy fucking shit you guys are retarded, if anything right now there are less fanservice than there used to be, especially with harem/ecchi shows dying since some years now.

>>159466987
I think /lit/ is a better fit for you.

>>159478934
Every episode of Non Non Biyori had fanservice because of all the scenery porn.

>>159478501
The M.A.O. bitch in Kado was the fucking worst example of this. Highly successful government official who starts acting like fucking Taiga when her husbando is around.

>>159466987
im with you

>>159478980
Only in your own imagination.

>>159479028
>I'm with stupid
That doesn't really help much.

>>159478815
>modern anime
Newfag fuck off. Fanservice has been there since the 70s. You're embarassing yourself with your shitty power level

>>159478982
That is fucking hilarious.

>>159479075
Nope, it's not

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>>159466987
OP you are wrong.

Rate my waifu

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>>159467740
Underrated post

I like dragons and there should be more dragons in anime.

>>159478802
Wait, how can you claim there's no good post ww 2 writing but not even know a /lit/ core book like IJ?

>>159479065
Yamato literally had a perverted robot who pulled dresses to see panties.

I will never watch a anime just for fan servicematrix.
But light fanservice or some fanservice from time to time don't bother me and I enjoy it. If you get triggered by a sexy girls you're likely a dumblrcunt or a faggot.

>>159479075
No, it's pretty sad actually.

>>159478509
My worth would be probably worthless to most people. Sex is a primal and bodily desire, most people just accept it and never think about it. Succumbing to it makes you a slave of your body. I don't want to be a slave, I want my mind to be free.

>>159478959
This is a very stupid definition making the term itself without a real definition. If everything can be fan service then nothing is fan service.

>>159479148
Definitely not sad

>>159466987
I tolerate it while willy normies shake off their wankers to that shit

>>159478948
compared to male stats
-2 strength
+1 charm
+1 perception
compassionate and motherly personality
i don't know im not a writer

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>>159479181

>>159466987
>>>/crunchyroll/

>>159475254
I bet you think normalfags hated Eromanga Sensei

>>159479125
Because I'm bitter and angry. Most of the well-acclaimed "newer" fiction I've found to be mediocre so I never did bother much with them.

>>159479224
You don;t even know what you want

>>159479224
>Motherly personality meme
Kek

>>159479211
more proof that anyone who uses "normies" is actually a normalfag in disguise.

>>159479181
>>>/reddit/

>>159479304
this

>>159479184
>fanservice is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience

The definition of the word is in the fucking name. Just because you're too stupid to understand it doesn't mean the word is too vague. Fanservice is literally content added to appeal to the fanbase. This can be anything from gore to titties to long scenery shots.

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>>159479181
>a slave of your body
>still shits a breathes
What a hypocrite

Watching anime and saying that you don't like fanservice or that you don't get sexually attracted to it makes me laugh so much.

It's like saying that you do like Stallone movies, except you dislike the fighting scenes, explosions and car chases.

>>159479224
>women
>good perception

That's why all great artists are men, right?

Being able to shit talk stacey is not good perception.

>>159479260
No, my friend. Those are incestfags

Fanservice breaks my story immersion.

What boards are raiding this thread?

>>159479401
No, normalfags and ironic weebs were the vast majority of the fanbase.

>>159466987
If you liked LoGH then you are lying about your hatred of all fanservice

>>159479447
The usual. /v/ and /co/

>>159479446
Yes. Whenever I'm talking with a female friend and she is using a shirt with cleavage it breaks my immersion.

Fuck women displaying sexuality, that's fucking disgusting and doesn't happen in real life.

>>159466987
>All fanservice is nudity

>>159479184
Shut up Syndrome.

>>159479379
my post is influenced by a study that shows women are better at memorizing and map reading

>>159479366
>The term originated in Japanese,[4][5] in the anime and manga fandom, but has been used in other languages and media.
This is the important part. Even people who watch anime know that nudity in many shows is completely unnecessary. This term doesn't even exist in non-otaku fiction.

>>159479479
prove it.
Because all the hate this show garners not just because of the writing or the plot but because simply of the sexualizations of cartoon underage tells me otherwise

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>>159479530
>using a shirt

>>159479530
What does your friend's cleavage have to do with anything?

>>159479372
One step at a time

>>159479530
Yeah, good example.

Did she also go kyaaa, start blushing, then slap you so hard you got a broken bone? Then her 12 year old sister appeared hugging you, pressing her nonexistant tits against you, while you got a nosebleed?

Man, gotta love realism.

>but that's animu

Then accept animu is childish i guess?

>>159479589
Why sexuality breaks your immersion when it happens in real life all the time?

>>159479181
The logical conclusion to that problem would be to just end your life.

>>159479224
>motherly personality
Shittiest taste possible, fuck off Freud.

Is this the official pretending to be retarded thread?

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>>159479616
>a slave of your body
>uses feet

>>159479572
You are calm, and composed. I like you.
We will go on adventures together.

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So, if you defend fanservice, will you also defend fujoservice?

>>159479572
That's probably to compensate for their horrid sense of direction. Women would get lost under a large blanket without a man to guide them out.

You see this digits? Look at them.

>>159479630
Who said anything about sexuality?

>>159479630
There is natural sexuality and this >>159479626

Most anime portray sexuality in a very childish and perverted manner. Hell, in most ecchi shows the characters don't have sex.

>>159479654
No, that is called harem anime.

You are the MC.

>>159479488
>one (1) instance in the whole series and movies and side stories
wtf LOGH is just as bad as eromanga sensei now

>>159479576
Nobody is claiming it's necessary yiu mongoloid. It's put in to appeal to the fanbase, nothing more.

>>159479674
I hate both. Ecchi, moe, fujo, it's all garbage.

>>159479654
it's just a typical I Hate Fanservice thread.

>>159479724

I thought in harem anime the protagonists were actually supposed to be retarded

>>159479626
>your life will never be a comedy
sad

>>159479748
Which is bad because most of the time fanservice means sexual fanservice. It implies that most anime fans are perverted manchildren if this is what they want to see.

>>159479799
It's mystery harem! The protag is a retard pretending to be retarded!

>>159479641
Then the cycle would begin anew.

You miss a lot of good anime that way.

>>159479833
>most of the time fanservice means sexual fanservice
No it doesn't.

>>159479833
>It implies that most anime fans are perverted manchildren if this is what they want to see.

But that's accurate. That's why most of the shows cater to them, and not people like you. If you can't stand it that much then this is not the medium for you.

>>159479849
I thought you don't believe in those things?

>>159479894
When was the last time you've used the term reffering to anything other than that?

>>159479626
>>159479713
>Did she also go kyaaa, start blushing, then slap you so hard you got a broken bone?
God forbid a anime for trying to play a scene for laughs. I forgot sex is serious business and we shouldn't joke with it.

>Then her 12 year old sister appeared hugging you
Sadly, that didn't happen. That's why we get fiction though, It's supposed to be our idealizations, desires and thoughts brought to life.

>Realism
No work of fiction is realistic. Every work of fiction steams from the personal perception of the author and thus, is subjected to be affected by his personal experiences and views. Also, fiction shouldn't be realistic, nor it should try to mimic reality. It can do that, but it's by no means a requirement or necessary.

>childish
The only thing that's childish here is you. Ironically.

>>159479927
Depends on what you think those things are.

>>159479833
See >>159467561

>>159479953
>steams
stems*

>>159479950
Literally every time I watch a mecha show.

>>159479997
That's close enough to sex

>>159479833
>being a pervert who likes sexy things means you're a manchild
Fuck you.

>>159479707
Explain your post then faggot. Why fanservice breaks your immersion and what kind of fanservice does that?

>>159479953
>It's supposed to be our idealizations, desires and thoughts brought to life.
So, you're now attacking anyone who don't want your fetishes and escapism material in every show they watch?

>>159479260
Why would I even watch it?

>>159480024
Don't shame me just because I fap to robots.

>>159480032
Go back to watching Precure, fat ass.

>>159479700
That's just, like, your opinion, man.

>>159479953
>God forbid a anime for trying to play a scene for laughs.
Except this is all they do. 99% of ecchi shit jokes around sex and almost always in the most immature manner.

>ITT: Stop liking things I like
This is the 16 billionth time we had this thread and we become increasingly more efficient at it.

>>159479953
>No work of fiction is realistic

The world you are looking for is "fantasy", or "fantastical".

>God forbid a anime for trying to play a scene for laughs.

Then most of anime is, itself, a joke i guess.

>Also, fiction shouldn't be realistic, nor it should try to mimic reality.

Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Kurosawa. Hell, that is not an argument, that is you being butthurt.

> That's why we get fiction though, It's supposed to be our idealizations, desires and thoughts brought to life.

So your imagination is so undeveloped THIS challenges you? Squealing hamsters that flash pantsu at you? This is why it's all a big fat joke - THIS is why fucking otaku are hated in glorious nippon.

>Hey sis, show me your panties, it's okay, it's kawaii.

>>159480131
>watch ecchi
>get upset that they joke about sex

>>159480176
>watch anime
>get upset because it's anime

>>159480107
I never even watched a Precure series before and don't have much interest in doing so.
great doujins, though.

>>159480131
That's like complaining that a sports anime is 99% about the games.

>>159480126
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151207081824.htm

Sorry fujo, the truth hurts.

>>159480236
And that's this thread in a nutshell.

>>159477990
But there is good stuff too in western cartoons

>>159480236
Isn't that what most tumblr and westacucks complain about. It's too Anime like that's a detriment to a fucking anime

>>159480094
No, that's just your poor reading comprehension skills and cluelessness about what should be the role of art and fiction in our lives speaking for you.

Also, every entertainment is escapism.
>>159480131
>Except this is all they do
I haven't watched an anime that did that in 2 years. You should stop watching ecchi shit if you dislike the genre. Also, even if they all did, you are just moving to goalposts here.

>and almost always in the most immature manner.
What's the mature way to play a sex joke? I'm sure westerns series are really mature about it.

>Behave, dress, and act like an uberslut
>Still a virgin

Shit like this is embarrassing.
I can tolerate fanservice so long as it is consistent with the character in question, but when the character itself makes no sense, then fuck that.

>>159480073
That's not my post, faggot, but I'll tell you why I agree with it. I don't like the mood of the narrative being broken by tits, panties and other ugyuu shit. It's annoying and pointless wasting of my time on something I'm not trying to get from the story. I.e. the last thing I would want from LWA is looking on Akko's ass when she sits on a broom. It's not a story about hot witches, it's a story about kids learning magic. Showing those girls' asses would be completely inappropriate for that kind of a story.

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>>159480309
>But there is good stuff too in western cartoons

>>159480317
>No, that's just your poor reading comprehension skills and cluelessness about what should be the role of art and fiction in our lives speaking for you
>It's not porn, dad, it's called hentai and it's a form of art
Yeah, right

>>159480342
Like 40% of young Japs (men and women) are virgins, so it actually isn't totally outlandish.

>>159480342
look anon just because they wear a whore's uniform doesn't automatically mean they are one

>>159480342
gotta meet the status quo for the otaku's nip shekels. non-virgins don't sell for as much in purityfagland.

>>159466987
Yes, fanservice sells.

>>159480366
Not that anon, but there is. Not much, mind you, but occasionally something decent comes out. Usually it's capeshit, but still.

>>159480396
Get the fuck out of here.

...Are they shy or what?

>>159480342
In a very herbivorous setting like high school. I can see people avoiding slutty looking girls especially if they have cliques. Not all high school are like that hell home that is an american highschool

>>159480403
Whatever you say, retard.

>>159480403
But I'm going to assume they're whores and disbelieve lies about them being pure when they dress like that. Looking at you, Galko.

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>>159479379
>That's why all great artists are men, right?
The best hentai artist on the market right now are women though

>>159480424
Are you fucking new? This is old news lurk moar

>>159480424
No idea. My only guess is that they have like no sex drive. It's true though. It's not like America where everyone sluts it up.

>Moreover, many of them have never got close and cuddly. Around 42 percent of the men and 44.2 percent of the women admitted they were virgins.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/16/national/social-issues/sexless-japan-almost-half-young-men-women-virgins-survey/

>>159480440
anon, I was kidding. jesus calm down.

>>159480472
Asami and Shindo-l are women?

>>159480472
>hentai
>art

pfffft. Women begging for scraps! Let them draw titties, true artists chisel tiny penises on marble hahaha!

>>159480485
>My only guess is that they have like no sex drive.
Then why do they make literally thousands upon thousands of hentai and H doushinji?

>>159480485
So my best chance for 3D pigs being pure would be to settle for an ugly jap woman? That's a shame.

>>159480539
For the plot of course.

>>159480472
Till this day I'm still wondering if Yuzuki N' is a woman.

there is literally nothing wrong with being a virgin

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>>159480497
Where the fuck you think you are?

>>159480168
>Then most of anime is, itself, a joke i guess.
I'm sorry you only watch ecchi shit adapted from LNs written by literal teenagers.

>The world you are looking for is "fantasy", or "fantastical".
No, I quite literally mean that no fiction portrays reality in a objective way because they are subjected to the author's personal perception.

>Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Kurosawa. Hell, that is not an argument, that is you being butthurt.
Why are you name dropping these faggots? Are you retarded? What part of fiction doesn't need to be realistic and that no fiction is objectively realistic didn't you understand?

>So your imagination is so undeveloped THIS challenges you?
Strawman.

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>>159480555
>555
trips confirmed

>>159480386
Keep quoting things I never said and pretending that you are countering my arguments. It's amusing.