One Piece

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>Sanji-kun
>Nami-san

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Interview translations by Greed and Sandman:
>Oda talks about him watching Movies, mainly old ones, liking documentaries and observing his staff playing games. He is very interested in new thing and values the opinion of his younger staff on random things a lot.
>Between sleeping and working, he prefers working, as sleeping is a waste of time according to him. He would love to become a robot.
>He is very specific about scenery he creates and wouldn't want to have it any other way, because the background creates the atmosphere. He says if the Background is bad, readers will notice it, but if it's good, even if they don't notice that, it will stay in their mind.
>He reconfirms that he draws all living things by himself and doesn't allow assistants to do them, but the background, when they aren't that important are done by the assistants.
>His hands have yet to reach their limit and until he hits that point, he will continue to draw One Piece. (Although he already has to wear bandages from time to time etc.)
>He says that his editor's job is much more stressful than his, because his editor has to handle all the shit he doesnt want to. As stated in the past, he wants is editor to work until he can't anymore for One Piece, but his family supports him too.
>He gets asked if he will ever run out of ideas, which he declines. One Piece is only limited by time. He also says if he did One Piece without a deadline (like Togashi practically does HxH) he would never be able to properly draw it. The weekly deadlines motivate and help him, instead of the opposite.

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>the absolute state of Luffyfags

Luffy has to have gear 5/ a Yonko kill button up his sleeve. He's been too confident despite being beaten down the whole arc

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Oda is an absolute God

>>159400330
We need more edited gifs and pics showing luffy getting owned and beaten by big mom

>>159400424
Stupid and gay

>>159400424
She's a devil you blind idiot. Hence her pitchforks, red sweater, and horned cap.

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Where are the Carrotbros?

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>spinoff part 1 is literally a single doublespread long
Hack?

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>>159400462

>>159400493
why couldn't Jinbe do that? He was like right next to Luffy.

>>159400173
Will Stussy reveal to BM that she ate Caramel?

>>159400481
You take things too literally

>>159400570
Pudding edited out the children beating the crap out of Caramel and dragging her body to the sea after finding out she was evil.

>>159400462
gotta wait for the chapter to drop so we get material

>>159400424
I don't get it

>>159400424
Did you eat the Gomu Gomu no mi: shipping model? Because that is a massive stretch.

>>159400645
I think Pudding erasing the memory is possible, but it's more likely she ate them.

She ate the table and benches. No way she didn't eat the kids slamming food down her throat too.

Pudding is a Cp0 agent

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>>159400462

>>159400173
We all thought pudding was gonna save the day with her memory powers , what if it's with her magic carpet instead , she catches sanji and luffy when they're falling

>>159400902
i like how she carries around his little sister

>>159400918
how the fuck does the magic carpet even work?

like, I can understand Zeus and Prometheus, but the carpet makes 0 sense. Flight isn't part of Mom's powers.

>>159400902
>>159400500
10/10

>>159400645
Oda isn't enough of a hack to show us a flashback like that one and then just say lol no that wasn't what happened at all

What if Oda is just fooling us into thinking Pudding will help the strawhats later on? I think its possible Big Mom will remember something important if Pudding is knocked out.

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>You're weak as shit, Luffy. It's time to make me the Captain now.

>>159400987
all the homies can move despite having no limbs or muscles

the carpet just flaps to fly

>>159400999
Caramel could have given life to the table and benches to fight for her and that's why the kids broke them before dealing with Caramel herself.

>>159401014
We're already escaping , germa can fly , everyone in bege body , and gastino is flying him away , now all they need is for someone to rescue luffy and sanji which will be pudding with her magic carpet

What other manga do you guys read?

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Year of Jinbe 's death

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>>159400918
>what if it's with her magic carpet instead , she catches sanji and luffy when they're falling
so basically this except luffy is the monkey

guys what if morgans is an awakened albatross zoan

>>159401221
JoJo, Berserk, and Fairy Tail. Also Terra Formars.

>>159400918
>>159401187
Luffy can fly using G4 and Sanji can sky walk. Unless Big Mom beat them semi-unconcious.
And couldn't the Germa save them too?

If you put those sea stone chains on Brook does he die? Shouldn't he just die if he touches sea water?

>>159401360
If he was awakened he'd look like monster point chopper or any of the awakened zoans in impel down. I think there's just a race of bird dudes that have a monopoly on the news.

>>159401044
begone thot

>>159401463
No because seastone and water only prevents you from actively using your powers. Luffy can still be stretched, Buggy doesn't bleed to death.

If Blackbeard touched him it could be a different scenario though since Yami Yami disables even Luffy's rubberiness.

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I miss when Chopper couldn't control his monster point. It was such a great all or nothing ability. It was also a lot bigger and intimidating back then.

>>159401463
No, for the millionth time neither seastone nor seawater completely negate DF powers. They only make you weak.

>>159401463
But he is already dead yohohohohohoh

Reminder that Oda thinks shippers should go read girls' manga.

>I like to draw party scenes. So I don’t want to draw anything that would ruin that atmosphere. And this is a manga for boys so I won’t draw anything about relationships. I get a lot of letters from female readers asking me to cover some kind of relationship but if that’s what you want, go read a girl’s manga, that’s not my job. I don’t care if someone falls for Luffy, but it’s something that would be over before you know it. But knowing Luffy, I don’t think that kind of thing would be a problem. (laughs)

>>159401435
Aren't they already knocked out

>>159400173
Maybe this has already been discussed before but I gotta ask, why is Oda such a zorofag? I reread one piece recently and pretty much everyone who isn't one the crew and isn't a villain is in constant awe of zoro, hell even in the crew we have chopper, usopp, and brook who all worship zoro.
>Despite not having a devil fruit breaks 100 mill pre-time skip (but sanji doesn't? Sanji and zoro were fighting on even terms for a good portion of the series)
>Has asura hacks outta nowhere
>Can tank a fuck ton of stuff
>Everyone always praises him for being such a badass despite not doing much more than other members of the crew like sanji, robin, or our lord and savior god ussop (ussop was the fucking mvp of dressrosa)
>Self insert for japs cause "muh katana can cut through anything, samurai is strongest there is"
>"Flaws" are that he has a bad sense of direction and likes fighting
Is zoro a straight up garystu?

Is Sabo Yonkou tier?

>>159401684
Lol no. Oda doesn't even like Zoro that much. Which is why he always ends up jobbing where it matters most.

>>159401684
He's definitely beat more impressive enemies than Sanji as a whole and I don't really think it's that close

>>159401652
>inb4 "Buh Oda Changed Hes Mind"

>>159401684
Get back to making cakes for girls, Sanji.

>>159401684
Zoro has devoted his life just to getting stronger, comparing him to Sanji is absurd, if anything Sanji is the one who's overpowered.

>>159401721
First Commander teir , but dragon is yonko teir

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>>159401724
Zoro is his favourite character, don't kidd yourself.

>>159401684

>Has asura hacks outta nowhere

Come on.
Everyone was pulling out new shit in Enies Lobby.

Ass pulling new techniques to beat a strong oppenent wasn't something solely restricted to Zoro here.

>Is zoro a straight up garystu?

A Gary-Stu would some someone like that faggot MC from Re:Monster.

Who is 1# or simply has the highest potential at literally anything.

Zoro is good at one thing and one thing only, and that's fighting, and seeing as this is a battle shonen, it matters most.

If this was some cooking shit Sanji would be right up there.

>>159401862
No not really. Is that why he made Zoro end up jobbing to a chimney, stairs, the Yeti Cool brothers and even Carrot? Zoro is just a comedic take on the "reserved tough guy" meme.

>>159401721
No but Koala is.

>>159401895
>OP is a battle shounen.

Nice.

>>159401862
You are wrong about that.
Oda's favorites are Sanji and Robin. They are by far the most deep and developed of the crew. Oda has dedicated inordinately large amounts of time developing their characters compared to the rest of the crew.Sanji has so many of the best moments.
This is not counting Luffy obviously.

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What is his endgame?

>>159402148
Titfucking Koala as she lactates.

>>159402060
is this canon?

>>159401684
Because fighting is the only thing Zoro contributes to the crew he has to justify his position far more, he is the only strawhat with the explicit goal to become strong. Zoro only eats, sleeps and trains, it is not strange for him to be the second strongest, aside from that say Sanji has an advantage against him by virtue of being more agile with Sky Walk.

>>159402219
Yes,

>>159401221
One Punch Man and HxH mostly. I'm a big fan of mainstream shounen

REVERIE WHEN?

>>159402219
Yes, that near-gibberish written by someone that's clearly illiterate is a piece of canon that's only just been discovered.

>>159401221
Just OP

>>159401741
>During alabasta beat mister 2
>During Enies lobby beats wolf guy who is just as strong as the giraffe
>Post time skip takes out as many fodder as Zoro and fucks up a pacifista
I think it's closer than people think
>>159401824
Sanji was fighting pirates all his life, it's reasonable for him to get stronger over time.
>>159401895
Fair enough, though I feel like a lot of the other power ups were more justified like gear 2-3 (had some set up, fit within his power, had legit drawbacks) and sogeking and nami both upgraded their gear and used strategy to win, chopper's monster form is completely uncontrollable.
You know what, sanji should've been in shokugeki no souma, is it a stupid idea? Yes. Would it be entertaining as fuck? Yes.
>>159402229
Also a fair point.

>>159402306
December

>>159402148
Overthrow gubberment, replace with democratic republic.

Then in a shock twist ending assume dictatorship.

Official SH cock size chart

>Franky
>Zoro
>Robin
>Usopp
>Luffy
>Chopper
>Carrot
>Nami
>Sanji
>Brook

>>159402364
I think there was a pretty big gap between Bon-chan and Daz and I think Kaku was the clear number 2 of CP9 but you're right on the post timeskip. Neither has really had that one crazy moment or fight.

>>159402476
>Robin in 3rd place
Wut

>>159400424
Lydia is better than any One Piece girl

>>159402307
it's a summary of the ace novel in the one piece magazine

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Post shamed Zoros

>>159402539
If you turn it upside down it's just Zoro doing a Mario impression.

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>>159402539

>>159402476
Personally,I'd swap Zoro with Chopper and put Luffy just under Zoro. But still pretty accurate

>>159402476
How come you can't see Franky's monster cock through his pants then?

>>159402645
It's retractable.

>>159402512
>I think there was a pretty big gap between Bon-chan and Da
The gap wasn't as large as you'd think, given their initial scuffle upon meeting each other. Interestingly enough their combat dynamic is similar to the Zoro/Sanji situation, in that Daz has an ability much more suited for combat, whilst Bon-chan has much greater utility with his powers. Both are strong as fuck, but Daz is always going to have an advantage in a fight, given he's more focused on utilizing his abilities for that purpose. The same can be daif for Zoro and Sanji, given Zoro dedicates pretty much all his time to getting stronger, tougher and more skilled whilst Sanji obvious puts more attention elsewhere. So too is it the same in an actual combat situation where Sanji is much more versatile, in that he can take a more stealthy approach and look for information or approach things from behind the scenes, or make use of his much greater maneuverability to move around the area and help where needed, as he did with Tashigi in Punk Hazard.

>>159402689
PASTA MACHINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o-fiVWsq98

>>159402364
Wolf guy was ranked considerably beow Kaku, before he even got his giraffe power though. Before visiting /a/ I did not know that there were people seriously treating Sanjis and Zoros rivalry as more as a running gag.

>>159402748
>considerably
it was a very small difference, caused by jabra slacking off while kaku was on a mission

and the douriki measurement doesn't count DF boost, jabra himself said he still had that over kaku (before kaku also got a DF)

>>159402476
Poor Brook

>>159402748
>Wolf guy was ranked considerably beow Kaku
>Kaku doriki 2000
>Wolf doriki 2180
You can say that belli count is bs and not a true representative of strength but oda specifically introduced these power levels for these characters and they expressed that they were rivals.

>>159402906
Whoops, Kaku was at 2200

>>159402748
>>159402906
What's Stussy's doriki level

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>>159402627
>Three dead bodies
TCB can't even kill a sleeping Zori

>>159402906
kaku 2200 you mean

>>159402844
>>159402906
Fair enough

>>159402954
Yeah, I corrected myself here >>159402943

>>159402748
Jabra was the only person in CP9 that could move while in tekkai. He had the strongest tekkai in CP9 and the 2nd strongest shigen after Lucci. Kaku only had Rankyaku and could punch harder.
Zoro couldn't break the tekkai at all. He had to hit Kaku moving.
Zoro could not have beaten Jabra.

>ywn see wb fighting in his prime
Why live

>>159401221
BnHA
Promised Neverland
One Punch Man
SnK
Tokyo Ghoul:re
Prison School
Berserk
Shokugeki no Soma
Chi no Wadachi
Happiness
Jagaaaaaan
Fairy Tail
Nanatsu no Taizai

>>159401221
everything currently in the catalog

jagan
hajime no ippo
dr.stone

>>159402989
He might be the only person alive that could move with tekkai. We've never seen anyone else do it.

>>159403026
>>159403042
Weebs

Does somebody else want to see Chopper use his Horn Point to bury through the ground at high speed again ? It was a really cool and unique ability that even gave him an advantage compared to the rest of the crew and that form looked far better than his Kung Fu Point, I am a bit disappointed that he only used it on Fishmen Island.

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>>159403069
Gotta problem anon?

>>159403162
At least you post BASED Fidel. You have good taste.

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>>159403162
;_;

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>>159403219
Still waiting

Will we get an "I've come to end this war" moment? Some big twist thing like BB showing up or something?

>>159403069
Wait what the fuck? You know the board you're posting in?

>>159400330
i dont get it, i love luffy, i thought it was awesome he was able to go toe-to-toe with a yonkou, and the foreshadowing in the chapter only tells us that he has room for growth and WILL get stronger. this is a win for "luffyfags" i don't understand why you would want for him to fail, he's the main character?

>>159402476
>Luffy could stretch his dick
>not auto 1st

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>>159400482
I tried carrotposting for a while, no one else joined in, so I decided to stop. It's just you now.

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>>159402476
>>159402689

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>>159402989
>Zoro couldn't break the tekkai at all
Kaku got caught in his tornado attack while using tekkai and had to move because it was too strong. If he didn't move tekkai would've been broken. Also, Kaku and Jabra couldn't even beat Zoro while he was chained to Usopp

>>159403295
4chan is a contrarian board anon.
Just revel in their smugness for now cause their BTFO is gonna be epic

"He who laughs last, laughs best"

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>>159400462

>>159403131
I think there's a real opportunity for Chopper to find a useful role in combat and skirmishes from here on out, using his multiple forms and their variety of strengths to help when the situation demands it. It would synergise well with the seeming move towards a supportive role that Nami and Usopp are being tailored for, given their recent acts when fighting is going on. There's a bit too many combat orientated characters about currently who are more deserving of actual fights, so giving Nami, Usopp and Chopper the job of helping those fights or skirmishes seems like a fair trade off; teamed with the occasional confrontation that makes use of their more offense orientated abilities.

That way Chopper can differentiate himself through a more melee orientated style in comparison to Usopp and Nami, with the option of going Monster Point should some extra muscle be needed too. It worked quite well this current arc in the mirror world, Chopper and Carrot's exploits were vital to the success of the infiltration.

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>>159403389

>>159403295
>everytime Luffy gets stomped it's foreshadowing that he'll get stronger
>th-this is a win for Luffyfags

Top kek

>>159403423
Now put big mom and luffy's faces on it

>>159403402
What am I looking at here?

Which one has more fangirls? Law or Sabo?

>>159403501
Franky's Stanky

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>>159401824
I wholeheartedly agree. Sanjis focus was never fighting, and yet somehow he is one of the top brawlers in the crew. SANJI is the overpowered one, considering he literally never trains. Luffy and Zoro have a reasonable amount of strength considering they were working towards their dreams since they were children, all Sanji had been doing up until then was being a fucking bus boy, and occasionally beating up fodder-tier pirates. He was still copmletely outclassed by don krieg, a complete joke of a pirate. And then suddenly, two arcs later, after fighting a few more people, he's suddenly part of "the monster trio" Sanjis strength is way more undeserved than the other crewmembers.This is coming from a sanjifag.

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Oda, where's my friend Zoro?

>>159403295
>he was able to go toe-to-toe with a yonkou
except he apparently got stomped in seconds
>this is a win for "luffyfags"
sure thing mate
>i don't understand why you would want for him to fail, he's the main character?
because it's not good storytelling in any way for him to win here.

>>159403501
Proof that Franky's penis is on the outside

>>159400173
Just finished Choppers flashback. Does anyone here now of a good way to fucking kill myself

>>159403521
Eisu > Lar >= Sahbo > Kobe

Big Mom obviously had had taking down Luffy and the Vinsmokes, just wait till the pics come out and be BTFO.

>>159402207
god I want to do that.

>>159403295
>he's the MC so he should just beat everyone via asspull lol
this is why people hate luffyfags

>>159400324
How do bandages help?

Is the chapter early next week?

Raid Suit Sanji (Knives) > Raid Suit Sanji > Zoro >= Sanji >>>>>Base Luffy

>>159403550
>except he apparently got stomped in seconds
Read the spoilers. Luffy said he wanted to beat Kaido and then would come back for Big Mom.
So Luffy wasn't really trying to fight her. Big Mom is just too autistic to pick up on the social queues and went full retard strength on a guy not interested in fighting her.

>>159403405
I'd say that'd more because Jabra and kaku were messing each other up and kind of fucking around, also it should be noted that Zoro couldn't beat kaku till he went asura mode so if Jabra and kaku actually worked together properly they would've fucked zoro up.
>>159403547
At least during the time skip he has a proper amount of training, also now considering we know he was breed to be great but was deemed a "failure" he could've just been a late bloomer compared to his brothers.

>>159403671
And Sanji (Knives) > Zoro

>>159403686
So now Luffyfags are saying he wasn't trying and he could beat her if he went all out

I'm impressed with the excuses you can pull out of your asses.

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Today's a good day for us Linlin fans everywhere.

>>159401684
Killer got to 160 mill pre-time skip with no fruit.

Shanks, Mihawk, Rayleigh and Garp are some of the strongest characters in the series.

>>159403671
>>159403707
Actually...why doesn't sanji ever use knives? Yeah he can't get his hands hurt but considering he uses his hands to balance himself to do spin kicks I don't think it's too much of a stretch to use knives.

>>159403746
>Fans of an autistic cannibal

No wonder 4chan is your safe space anon.

>>159403686
She still stomped him easily although he was using G4.

Still think Luffy could BTFO her if he tried next time?

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ZORO PLEASE SAVE US

>>159403659
Pretty sure you replied to the wrong comment, retard. That has literally nothing to do with what I said.

>>159403686
>goes G4
>wasn't trying
so luffy just stood there a took a beating?

>>159403783
Knives aren't for fighting, they're for cooking.

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What happens if you're both a Luffyfag AND a Linlinbro? I think I'm the real winner here.

I also like Caesar, Katakuri, AND Reiju. I don't think there is a possible way for me to lose this arc.

>>159403779
I always chalked that up to the fact that they have a hell of a lot more experience and training, for instance, in the first chapter Shanks loses his arm to a monster, a monster that luffy then one shots, if that's the case past shanks doesn't seem to be that strong.
>>159403830
Then daggers.

>>159403405
>Survives Zoro's continuous attack to the neck with no damage
How is this an argument for Zoro fighting Jabra? He could move while in tekkai remember? He would just moonlight ten shigen the fuck out of Zoro and kill him through his attack.
Sanji 2 shotted Jabra with Diablo Jambe while tanking his shigen. Zoro would have lost that fight for sure.

>>159403431
I agree I even think Choppers strenght is somewhat underrated, imo he is only below Franky and the monster trio, with significant distance to the rest. Of all strawhats I think Chopper had it the worst post-timeskip, after a strong showing on Fishmen-Island his monster form got one-shotted by Luffy and more importantly he failed as adoctor when Luffy ate the poisonous fish. I was always intrigued by his different forms and him analyzing zombie Oars weakness on Thriller Bark was the shit, we need more of that.

>>159403550
>>159403445

Yes, it IS a win for luffyfags. I never said it's a win for luffy, he obviously lost.

This is pretty clearly a win for luffyfags considering Oda literally STRAIGHT UP TOLD US that he's going to beat kaido, and then come back and beat big mom. If you disagree with this, you are literally disagreeing with Oda himself.

>>159403830
>knives arent for fighting
Get attacked with a knife and then say that. Oh you couldn't because youd be dead.

>>159403908
it's a loss for the luffyfags who overestimate him to yonko level and said he would beat big mom here

>>159402148
He's gonna die so Sabo can take charge of the revolutionary army, and in the final saga after Luffy becomes pirate king, they'll fight together as the two most wanted men in the world against the world government.

>>159403783
His legs are by now probably far more developed than his arms and his unconventional style has it's own advantages. He would have to develop a new style, almost from scratch.

>>159403921
Not if I kick them.

>>159403888
Robin is actually really strong and when he pulls out all of the stops usopp isn't easy to take down, so I don't think it's fair to say there's a significant distance. Even Brook and nami can deal a lot of damage when in a pinch.
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>>159403994
It's just that sanji has no devil fruit powers and is bare handed, surely some sort of weapon or armor could help?

>>159403783
>>159403830
He's fine using knives for food based opponents (noodle guy on the train in Water 7 arc).

>>159403953
Slow down friend. Arc isn't over yet.

>>159403921
Those are Sanji's words. Maybe try reading better.

>>159404067
That was to prepare a dish.

>>159403867
>How is this an argument for Zoro fighting Jabra?
I never said it was, it was an argument for Zoro breaking tekkai. Also did you not read the part where I said if Kaku didn't move his tekkai would've been broken? There's certain opponents that Zoro couldn't beat that Sanji could and vice versa. For example Sanji wouldn't have beaten Jazz Boner in Alabasta due to his crazy body.

>>159404028
>Teleports behind you
Nothin personal kid

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>>159404071
What are you implying?

>>159404071
But Luffy and Big Mom fight is

Is Big Mom supposed to be a reference to Angela Merkel? She is known by her nickname "Mama Merkel", and just like Big Mom she wants a country of diversity (and also looks like a fat little nasty goblin) while also trying to hoard new technologies, dangerous weapons and money. There are some striking similarities, only Merkel doesn't have dozens of children.

>>159404123
>sky walks above you
You're makin' me sleepy.

>>159404141
I never dabble in theories or try to predict an arc. Anything can happen. This may end up as another impel down, or it may be alabasta/skypiea 2.0. I hope luffy escapes because thats a logical/non asspull way of confronting the situation but Oda may always end up making BM fall.

Dont really understand where people get all of this confidence from. That's all.

>Just to spite a few posters /a/ is willing to celebrate our beloved senpai getting btfo
Why are you guys so petty?

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>>159404085
A dish called defeat

But seriously, Sanji, just use fucking knives or swords or daggers or whatever.

>>159404038
There's a lot of potential ways you could augment Sanji to make him stronger in the short term, the raid suit being the most obvious option most currently available. However, Sanji's current skill set is incredibly good for the position he plays on the crew, from a combat stand point. He's displayed that he's specialized in CoO and can use CoA both offensively and defensively. Add that to all the unique shit he can do, especially sky walking and you have a perfectly fine skill set. The only thing Sanji really needs is actual fights with appropriately challenging opponents with no handicaps involved. That way he can progressively get more adept at using his already extensive skills and progress naturally to meet the New World's threats.

>>159404182
No

Would any of you guys seriously drop One Piece if Big Mom gets beaten this arc?

>>159404182
Nah, she's a reference to Steve Urkel because she's invincible and an anime character.

>>159404231
Why does he fucking need them? I don't understand "Sanji needs a weapon" fags. He's a kick-based martial artist. That's his niche in battle. It's like saying "Zoro should punch people more!"

>>159404215
>Dont really understand where people get all of this confidence from
Maybe because Big Mom going down here wouldn't make any sense at all?

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>>159403888
>more importantly he failed as a doctor

How do you go from curing an entire country of biologically foreign creatures of a deadly poison gas, and being hailed as a world class doctor....to being considered a failure because someone gorged themself on a substance that causes instant death? Chopper doesn't deserve this.

Would Jinbei be the second or third strongest SH if he joined

>>159404231
I doubt knives would do much in the New World since everybody and their mother knows CoA and Sanji specializes in CoO. They could easily break his weapons.

>>159404377
Fourth. By the time he joins Sanji, Luffy, and Zoro would be approaching admiral tier.

>>159404294
No because I wouldn't stop reading something I've been with for 6 years.

I'd be pretty fucking mad though.

>>159403953
As someone rooting for luffy, any luffyfags overestimating his power, saying he can take on a yonkou, are in for some disappointment. This shonen is about growth, and little by little getting closer to your dreams. Taking down a yonkou is not going to be so easy.

>>159404219
Only underage faggots like Luffy. Just like barto

>>159404294
Yes. Would be the biggest asspull in One Piece BY FAR.

>>159404038
Robins power is very strong and Usopp resilience and skill is considerable, but I was just talking about physical strength were I believe Chopper has them beaten, even Brook who is probably a better fighter overall due to hism immense speed.

I think Sanji probably would not really benefit from armor seeing how it usually is not very effective in One Piece (the raid suits being the only exception I can think of) and how Sanji is a speedy guy. A weapon might be more plausible but he is doing pretty great without one and itmight take away from his kicks if he broadens his focus.

>>159404420
I'm 24 and I like Luffy. I like all the straw hats, but Usopp is my favorite.

>>159404219
Seriously, what the fuck is the point of these threads anymore, if you're not rooting for the main character? Just leave.

>>159404420
Fuck off Barto is an amazing character. He's a heel, that makes him better than 70% of the characters in OP.

>>159404377
Third

>>159404231
"Why do not we just homogenise all fighting types into guys with swords."

>>159404291
>>159404304
>>159404452
Good points, really thinking about it, Sanji does have a lot of strong points and does already have a pretty diverse skill set. I actually don't think sanji should get a raid suit, he's already shown that he doesn't really care for their acceptance and even if germa gave him one he'd probably never use it unless the crew was in grave danger.
>>159404385
You do know you can use CoA on your weapons? Pretty sure sanji can use CoA and CoO, though he probably couldn't use CoA on a weapon without training.
>>159404406
They're not even close to admiral tier yet, mind you admirals are at the level of yonko

>>159404294
I'd be disappointed, but I wouldn't drop something I've been reading for 15 years because of that. Like people talk about asspulls, but I can't think of anything outside of maybe Asura. Making up something just completely unbelievable is the only way out of this besides retreat.

>>159404345
I am not saying he is a failure but he was unable to help Luffy in that situation, failing as a doctor in that instance.

Is Shanks yonkou tier?

>>159404377
I think his team-up with Sanji on Fishmen Island indicated that they are around the same level.

>>159402476
are you kiddin me, Brook has a huge boner

>>159404452
I actually disagree on the Sanji point. Sanji's offensive power has been repeatedly praised, particularly this arc. Teamed with his ability to use CoA now and his incredible speed and maneuverability and he's completely fine on the offensive front; his only major weakness being a lack of ranged attacks which is fine, given having gaps in skill sets makes things more interesting from a strategic point of view.

Where Sanji has struggled considerably is in the defence department. Albeit odds were heavily stacked against him, but the two obvious circumstances that come to mind are Vergo, Doflamingo and the original Pacifista battle. Given how reliant he is on his legs for both attack, defense and movement he's incredibly vulnerable to injury in a fight. As such, the more useful thing he could get that would directly improve his ability to fight would be a defensive upgrade. That doesn't have to come in the form of armor, albeit that it's the easiest option, but being more durable in a fight will be key for him moving forwards.

A potentially interesting take on that situation though is the idea that he could gain a defensive increase through avoidability, developing his CoO to allow him to avoid a much greater range of attacks than he currently can. I like the idea, though I think he'd need to be a bit tougher even if he did so as you're never going to be able to dodge every attack.

>>159404572
Then why did it take 3 admirals and 6 shiggydiggys to kill a dying Mighty Whitey?

Besides, Jinbei isn't joining any time soon.

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>>159400173
I find annoying that Big Mom is beating everyone offscreen

>>159404420
Why do you even read One Piece lol

>>159404649
Most of the fights that were "asspuls" made a lot of sense in the story even if they were kind of dumb. I think beating BM here would take some skill we haven't even seen slightly hinted at and would be majorly dumb.

>>159404572
>mind you admirals are at the level of yonko

naw m8 that's wrong, that's all wrong. whitebeard stomped in 1v1 matches with admirals (until he was finally beaten down and weak and even then he almost killed akainu). 1 Yonko= 3 Admirals roughly in strength. Maybe four or five for what we have seen so far. Blackbeard was able to hold off Garp and Sengoku, we have no idea what he's capable of now. Keep in mind, Garp could've easily killed Akainu if Sengoku didn't hold him back. Admirals are way overrated. Also, Luffy was pretty evenly matched with Fujitora which I think was the point of their fight at the end of Dressrosa. Admirals are dog shit, we will see Zoro beating an admiral soon I imagine.

>>159404294
Imagine if Luffy vs Lucci happened today.

>The fuck? Where the hell Luffy pulled these "gears" from? Oda is a fucking hack!

>9 Swords Style: Asura? Are you fucking kidding me?

>Sanji can ignite his legs on fire, holy shit Oda, I thought you were better than this.

>>159404447
I doubt you were even born when the Gears got brought up in Enies Lobby.

>>159404219
>>159404499
Because I don't want my MC to be a Mary sue who one shots people wherever he goes.

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>>159404572
>unless the crew was in grave danger.
I like the potential narrative impact that the raid suit could have for Sanji as a character. That being the conflict between not wanting to be seen as a Vinsmoke, nor be seen as indebted to them but realising that Luffy's goal to become Pirate King will forever put him in a situation where conflict is inevitable. Given the lengths that Luffy went for him, even in the face out outright rejection, Sanji would have to weigh up how much he would hate using the raid suit in comparison to not being as able to support Luffy as he possibly could be.

Be in debted to someone you hate or not be able to repay your debt to someone you love as well as you could. That's some tough shit to deal with there and I think it'd be a great character development opportunity for Sanji.

No shitty raid-suit boots though. Judge/Default version of the suit or bust.

>>159404829

>The fuck? Where the hell Luffy pulled these "gears" from? Oda is a fucking hack!

Luffy pulled out Gear 2nd,3rd before he even got to Lucci.

>>159404871
Luffy has never one shot a major enemy, barring Bellamy where where one shotting him was the entire point. He didn't even beat Dofy on his own.

>>159404829
Luffyfags thought Gear 2 made Luffy as strong as Aokiji

I want to feed Big Mom a Toblerone-shaped cock.

>>159404661
He... he's A YONKOU.

>>159404729
/a/'s definition of asspull is "anything not explicitly stated". Beating Big Mom now would just be ridiculous, and a disservice to hype that has been built up for years. Big Mom even talked about pirates having to make concessions in the new world. Well lets have Luffy make one now.

>>159404704
I agree that he is a bit of a glass cannon, but armor would not fit his style and is generally not reliable in One Piece (Don Creek was pretty much high-end) Sanji is naturally geared more towards speed and evasion, he should use these talents.

>>159404882
I was thinking something similar, though considering how a big take away from this arc was that sanji was willing to give up his life for his crew I think we already know the lengths he'd go to protect them, sure he'd hate putting on the suit but if it meant saving them he'd do it in a heartbeat.

>>159404959
is he yonkou level though?

>Chapter 1
>Where the fuck did this stupid fruit come from that made the OP too powerful come from?
>Deus ex Shanks
>Shounen timeskip and we're only in chapter 1
>0/10 shit comic

>>159404871
>who one shots people wherever he goes.

- Got almost bitten in half by Arlong
- Got wrecked fucking twice by Crocodile
- Got golden ball'd by Enel
- Got absolutely schooled by Aokiji
- Got swatted like a fly Lucci, had to pull Gears out of thin air to become a match.
- Got educated about the dangers of the New World by Kuma.

Luffy the fucking "Mary Sue".

I ship Diamond Jozu and Joyboy.

>>159405016
No Big Mom would fuck his dick up. Idk how he reached the status he has.

>>159404719
You just have to accept Oda isn't big on fight scenes anymore.

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>>159405016
He clashed with Whitebeard before the war over ace, and the force of it split the clouds overhead.

>>159405085
>Captured and nearly executed by Buggy
>Had to flee from Smoker twice and only got away because of daddy/big brother.

>>159405085
I swear man. These Spee D. Readers are retarded.

>>159404907
He debuted Gear 2nd against Blueno, 3rd was against Lucci; the point is that he pulled it out without no foreshadowing whatsoever, to the point Toei felt that the making a connection to Luffy just getting the handle of the Gears in a Movie was in order, Movie 7 if I'm not wrong.

>>159404719
I find it annoying that Brook almost soloed Big Mom but she oneshot Luffy and company like jobbers.

>>159405085
He even got seriously hit by mere, elite soldiers on Marineford, where he got slapped around by Momonga and Dalmation without landing a counter hit

>>159404719
He's hiding the fact she's actually a shitter and depends on her gay clouds.

>>159405158
So he's around vice-admiral level then?

>>159405184
Toei did that to tease fans. They do that shit all time with Kamen Rider, Sentai and other properties that get movies.

They did it with Gear 4 in Movie Gold too.

>>159405186
I think the reason brook lasted so long was BM wanted to capture him, not murder the fuck out of him

>>159405184
He went to do G3 at the end of Blueno, then did it again to smash a door down on the way to Lucci. Not disagreeing, just correcting the details.

>>159405186
he didnt almost solo shit

He injured one of her three main souls. Which was cured with a bandage.

You guys use terms like "almost" and "btfo" very loosely

>>159405186
More like his power allowed him not to go down immediately when BM was not being serious

>>159405304
I agree that anon is exaggerating, it wasn't even close and she was likely going easy on him because he wanted him in her collection. But I still think the cut will have implications later, they specifically pointed out that it was hurting more than it should.

So... Fishman Island destruction prophecy is coming?

>>159405005
That's what would make it interesting in my eyes, it would bring the Vinsmoke subplot with him in the future as a way of developing his character through identify problems. It could force him to recognize his negative elements and counter with his positive ones and ultimately find that balance of living for his own desires relative to sacrificing or living for others sake, an issue he is likely always going to wrestle with, given his past.

In addition, it could bring up that idea of self-identity into the mix, similar to Ace, in that he finds a way to move away from the identity that his past and armor would identify him as and instead forge his own identity in the world as Black Leg Sanji, Master Chef.

>>159405003
Yeah, that's why I included the CoO avoidance option. I like the idea of that being his primary way to deal with enemy attacks, as you say it fits the glass cannon theme that aligns with his much reduced feats of endurance in comparison to Zoro and Luffy. However, I do think he'd have to be able to take some hits, given the type of opponents he's likely to encounter from here on out. That way some level of increased durability would be good, even if it comes purely from combat experience simply allowing him to tank more hits without being eliminated from the fighting.

>>159405391
I think Brooks power could be very significant if he fought together with others, essentielly nerfing BM to an extent

>>159405261
No the same, movies have their own timeline but Movie 7 is set out like it happens before Water Seven, Luffy defeats the villain by "triggering" Gear 2 by accident, not even aware he did a Jet Bazooka, that is supposed to bridge the idea that Luffy supposedly was working with his Gears offscreen after the movie to one day used it properly.

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>>159401221
>read

Who has time? Who else /Spee D. Reader/ here?

>>159405494
Yeah and Toei did it to tease the form and market it early.

They didn't give two shits about foreshadowing it better.

>>159405184

>3rd was against Lucci

He first used it in chapter 403 on a steel door before he fought Lucci.

>>159405425
>Black Leg Sanji, Master Chef
Take your Halo crossover fanfic elsewhere.

>>159405092
we still don't know who Joyboy exactly is

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>>159401221

Promised Neverland
Fire Punch
Jagaaaaan
HXH
Prison School
Berserk
OPM
Dancing Policemen
Black General
Nana and Vagabond (if they ever return).

Recently finished Pluto and going through Junji Ito's Frakenstein.

>>159405391
There actually was a fight two fights that really brought home the whole "regardless of how powerful you are there's someone who's your kryptonite" the easy one to mention is Bon vs the poison warden, but one that's more striking is the straw hats vs the first pacifista, it wasn't actually the monster trio who brought it down, but a combination of nami, robin, and usopp. I think what oda might be setting up is thgat brook will play a key role in her defeat, though he certainly won't be fighting her alone, kind of like the last fight in thriller bark against the giant where the crew were stalling until luffy could land the final blow.
>>159405425
It could be interesting, it's likely that after this event everyone will recognize that he's a vinsmoke considering the reporter attended the wedding and all, he'd have to deal with the fact that in the eyes of the world he's part of germa despite wanting nothing to do with them, the suit would be symbolic of that. It would actually not only provide a parallel between him and ace, but also between luffy and sanji, though luffy doesn't give a shit about dragon the world considers him dragon's son, though there are no hangups in luffy's case, it actually gives a nice dynamic between the two, both having similiar circumstances but treating them in different ways, it would actually bring sanji and luffy closer together in a very meaningful way.

>>159404829
Endless exposition is a problem in anime and manga, and I appreciate Oda avoids it. Gears are acceptable to me because they're straight forward, and don't require much explanation
>I realize you guys outclass me so I came up with a way to keep up with you
Personally I feel like that is all we need to know. I think in fiction when you're dealing with this kind of stuff its best to not explain to much of it. The more you try to ground it in reality the stupider it starts to sound. Example. Star Wars and The Force.

>>159405864

Fruit powers in general lend themselves well for asspull moves.

You can take a shit power and make it top tier by using some move based on a pun, a concept or creative use of the base power.

>>159401221
one punch man web comic
mob psycho 100
boku no hero academia
promised neverland
kingdom
berserk
hunter x hunter
attack on titan
dr.stones
seven deadly sins
TG re
re:zero WN
jagaaaaan

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How can anti-Luffyfags even live with themselves? Luffy getting BTFO always means he is gonna get back and win later, the question is when, this can happen in 20 chapters or more, doesn't matter.

Hope you guys don't kill yourselves when he awakens his devil fruit.

>>159406065
ops forgot prison school and vinland saga

>>159405864
Completely agree. And that same idea will be applied again. Hence "something big" in 873 and WCI heating up. If the SH were to truly fall, the climax would have been the tea party and what we are in now would have been the cooldown period. The arc isn't even close to being over yet.

But I'll let the posters here gloat. I'll be gentle with them later.

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>>159402528
Robin is so Lydia it isn't even funny

Blackbeard is the only yonko luffy is going to solo. You're delusional if you think otherwise

>>159405085
DAE sick of luffy literal plot armor his way to victory? also luffyfags BTFO sana canon WILL happen sweetie!

>>159406080
it's fine if he wins WHEN it makes sense , right now it doesn't

>>159406133
Nah. Sabo and Luffy vs Blackbeard.

He'll solo Shanks if they fight.

>>159406117
>"something big"
not referring to chapter contents retard
there is no chapter on the date

>>159406215
Sabo and Shanks are both going to job to Blackbeard

>>159405733
>it would actually bring sanji and luffy closer together in a very meaningful way.
For sure. I always felt that, given their relative ages, Sanji filled a just-slightly older brother role with Luffy. He takes care of those things that he feels Luffy isn't as able to do himself, teamed with keeping him fed and healthy, yet not overindulging him too much and trying to keep him somewhat disciplined.

Luffy too bringing out those positive sides of Sanji's personality, particularly in regards to the benefits of cooking and All Blue. Luffy also showing his willingness to deal with those negative elements of Sanji's personality, particularly his self sacrificial nature.

That's why their confrontation this arc was so harsh to read, two characters who really bring out some of the best in each other when the situation calls for it.

Adding in another way for them to bond, particularly in the absence of Ace feels like a great souvenir from WCI which has so heavily focused on the two of them.

>>159406189
>right now it doesn't
It did in Water 7?

>>159406289

Shanks is definitely jobbing to Blackbeard.

Sabo on the other hand will be more related to the part of the final leg of the manga dealing with the Gorosei.

>>159406328
yes. it did

>>159406055
Yeah, they are basically stand powers, Oda needed to introduce haki to balance out logia fruits otherwise they would be to broken

>>159406349
hope not, really don't want sabo lasting very long. easily the worst character in the series

>>159406389
How so?

>>159406289
>>159406349
Given that Blackbeard is responsible for Ace's death, and now attacked the Revolutionaries Sabo is no doubt going to play a hand in his defeat.

I assume the Reverie is going to focus on Sabo and Vivi personally.

>>159406460

Agreed, but Oda wrote him in as some sort of living memory to Ace so he's not going away anytime soon.

If anything he'll spend the entire manga avenging Ace and making everyone in his path job to him.

>>159406131
True desu. Oda may very well have based part of Robins character from Lydia on Beetlejuice.

>>159406488
because the power jump was small, he had already beaten the weakest schichibukai so cp9 members shouldn't be too much of a difference. he's nowhere even close to the levels of big mom and kaido though

>>159406460
Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of OP fans disagree with you. Sabo isn't going anywhere.

>>159403783
the better question is: why isn't he using knives already, seeing most of the enemies are food-based

>>159406133
Isn't Blackbeard literally the best Yonko to take down as a crew?

He's fucking defined as placing power above all else, killing his own former crewmate+captain and recruiting via a fucking "World's most horrifying Mass Murderers" cage match to the death.
He's stronger than Luffy sure, but that's going to be kicked out from under him when his crew stops fearing him. BB's crew will betray him as soon as he shows weakness, Luffy's will aid him in his time of need.

I think ultimately BB will be left stranded on Raftel with nothing but empty power and the rum in his belt.

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>>159406311
This panel always gets to me.

Everyone knows Luffy doesn't lie.

>>159400173
>he was sent to an island filled with okamas while luffy and zoro were sent to legends
>defeated some giant fishman fodder with the help of jimbei
>lost to nosebleeds
>lost to an explosion
>leg broken by a vice admiral
>owned by doffy
>defeated a fodder sheepshead with brook's support
>placed his crew in jeopardy and got captured by bege
>off paneled yonji fodder
>lost to judge
>lost to explosive handcuffs
>couldn't protect chef from niji
>lost to niji
>got mocked by pudding.
>lost to rain and cigarette lighter
>lost to dog on the street
>kicked bobbin but he came back instantly
>got pushed back by some random genie
>WORST OF ALL he hit luffy
>overruled katakuri's foresight.
19L 1W. 20th L coming this chapter.

>>159406460
He was a good character in the flashback, but amnesia tends to ruin characters and he was pretty bland in Dress Rosa

>>159403808
>Zoro/Chopper images

:3

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>>159407352
DELET

>>159405535
I'll be honest, I just look at the pictures and kind of skim things, reading is a pain in the ass. Proud escapefag here. Does anyone really think they aren't escaping this arc? Fucking luffyfags.

>>159403808
Best boys.

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>>159407309
This is the one which always gets me in the whole sequence. It was probably at that point that Sanji fully understood just what his decision meant for him, no more adventures, no more All Blue, no more Straw Hats. Brutal stuff, especially considering that his gambit had failed completely and Luffy wasn't put off at all, even with the beating he gave him. The Pudding reveal as well was just the cherry on top of the shit sundae for Sanji, he was able to turn on the dismissive thinking again, only to have it pulled out from under him in such a cruel way. I wonder how Luffy would react to Pudding when they next meet, considering what she told him and Nami in the prison.

I'm definitely looking forward to Nami's stance on his actions and return once things quiet down. Luffy's so ready to forgive if he believes that something isn't right and I'm sure that support will be necessary when Sanji eventually returns to the rest of the Straw Hats. He and Robin will have something extra to bond over at the very least.

>>159407352
Sanji > Vergo > Zoro though
Sanji > Jabra > Zoro though

>>159400324
I gotta disagree unless i really like the series I ignore most of the background. I legit never noticed the minks lives in giant fruit

>>159403808
>no helmet
COOOOPPPPSSSS

>>159407352
We will laugh at you though, Luffyfags. We already know Sanji is a loser. But we want to laugh at you kids for thinking Luffy is yonkou level

>>159407352
Pales in comparison to Zoro's lost of jobbings. All most all of Sanji's worst moments were recent. Zoro has been getting shit on the whole story.

I think it is a bit sad that we are probably never going to see an arc like the Davy Back Fight again, without any global players but a lot of creative opponents, powers and scenarios.

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>>159407752
>Implying pic related wont be waiting at raftel to challenge Luffy & co to their ultimate rematch

You guys know Oda set him up to be the final boss... right?

>>159407752
I think Shanks v Luffy may end up with a Davy Back

>>159401480
wait
monster point is chopper awakening? it actually... would make sense

>All this shitposting over maybes

Fucking theoryfags are the worst

>>159401572
so teach is the only one who can kill brook?

>>159400324
fucking hell he sounds just like me and my process for writing a novel

thanks for this

Is possible that Kaido is one of Big Mom's husbands?

>>159407977
Beastiality is depraved.

>>159407901
Not him but the zoan awakening thing is still pretty much a theory but it's the absolute best theory and supported heavily by the impel down monster guards; I'm pretty sure they get referred to as awakened too but that might be me misremembering

>>159407882
That is a really cool idea I would love that, I just meant that everything has to have high stakes nowadays, if they fight to many shichibukai you lose perspective of how strong other normal pirates are

>>159407977
His most desperate suicide attempt

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>>159407680
>implying i'm a luffyfag
>>159407693
>implying i'm a zorofag

>>159407882
I think so too. Luffy and Shanks will need a friendly battle. Something where afterwards they have a big party and celebrate no matter who won.

>>159402476
>Luffy below anyone

He can literally blow air and make it whatever size he wants

>>159408018
>I'm pretty sure they get referred to as awakened too but that might be me misremembering
They are specifically told to be awakened by Crocodile.

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I miss Enel. He was a much more frightening and intimidating villain than Big Meme ever was.

>>159407633
that was the only good part, all the rest was cringe

>>159400173
>A has Logia and can beat B
>B is strong so he can beat C
>C has haki and so he can beat A
Are you smart /a/? Who is the strongest?

>>159407352
Dont forget

>Lost to Violet


Im a Sanjifag and even i knew that was a setup

>>159403808
That chapter cover is Toriyama as fuck.

So is everybody supposed to forget that Caesar is a madman that uses toddlers as guinea pigs, making them addicted to poison?

>>159408428
remember when the villains were actually intimidating? cp9 were almost 10 years ago...

>>159405085
I enjoyed how Luffy just kept getting up despite getting his ass kicked.

>>159408428

People forget this dude easily had one of the most OP devil fruits in the entire series and still jobbed to Luffy

>implying that Luffy doesnt beat everyone in his way even if he loses the first fight

>>159408563
He's such a lovable villain.

>>159408428
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>>159406460
Ace came out of nowhere too.

Luffy x Hancock
Zoro x Tashigi
Sanji x Purin
Usopp x Kaya
Brook has no dick so he can't bone anyone
Franky x Robin?
Chopper x Milky
Jinbe x some mermaid whore probably

>>159408578
Yeah, I read the last chapter too

>>159408602
Luffy beat him pretty fairly.

>>159408563
No, that is what makes it so satisfying seeing him bossed around and used as a pawn

>>159408648
Um, no sweetie. It will be Sanji x Nami

>>159408563
He's basically inserted himself into strawhat culture and redeemed himself by getting rid of the gas that he created on Zou. He and Jinbe confirmed next strawhats

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chapter when

>>159408672
Um, no. It will be Nami x Vivi. Read the manga, Nami is lesbian.

>>159408689
You wishbone

>>159408689
They'll keep using him as they see fit. They'll get his heart back from Bege and just run around ordering him to do shit.

>>159408428
that's because of his design. BM's design and her behaviour make her look like a joke. but she's still a yonko and is on the same level as kaido, wb, shanks, bb etc. now she's finally beginning to flex her muscles and show us why she's a top pirate and can keep monsters such as katakuri, smoothie, cracker etc. under control. she casually blocked luffy's g4 punch which sent doffy (who easily controlled joz during the war) flying. she's strong as fuck but her design makes her not intimidating for few

Was it KingKong gun tho?

>>159408695
4 hours approx.

>>159408428
BM, Doffy, Kaido, and Jack are all easily more intimidating than Enel

>>159408822
if she blocked kkg with ease then luffy is doomed. if it was a base G4 punch then there's a sliver of hope left for those who think bm is going down in this arc

>>159408822
No, it was the Chinese knock off version. Ching Chong Gun.

>>159404572
>They're not even close to admiral tier yet, mind you admirals are at the level of yonko
If an admiral was as powerful as the Yonkou, there'd be no Yonkou. The Marines have 3 of them plus Garp and a couple other Vice Admirals that could fill in the job. They'd stomp every other army in the world.

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>>159408563
Caesar was a fucking lunatic at that point, who was obsessed with experimentation and surpassing Vegapunk. He was doing unethical experiments on human subjects under the world government for years, laboring away, detached in his lab.

Did any of those kids die? Nope, none of the kids died. They also got super strength and endurance because CC is a world-class genius. Vegapunk is probably taking the credit and experimenting on those kids again right now because the navy and WG are totally fucked, much moreso than Caesar. CC even points out that Admiral Akainu would support his ideas.

Caesar is in fact, so far gone by the time we see him on Punk Hazard he tries holding a conversation with Smiley. He gets upset when Smiley doesn't stop and talk to him. He's totally nuts, the Strawhats will put him back on the right path and he will get his heart back.

>>159408428
Because Skypia was like it's own little world where he was completely unchallenged, no matter how strong the villain of the arc is now there are always other powerful pirates in the discussion

>>159405425
But Sanji's arc in this was getting over his family and this very last two chapters had him making Judge admit that he was not his father. If anything, you're talking about regressing Sanji's character by making him depend on the family that hated and abandoned him. It'd give him angst, not development.

>>159408487
(Will of) D

>>159408957
calm down Mastah

>>159408957
There's no doubt that Caesar has lost his path, but he is not beyond redemption. There is potential for good within him: his followers genuinely loved and respected him. Just like a scientist, Caesar treated his "subjects" humanely before he killed them. Whenever he spoke of killing them, it was always for the sake of "experimentation," Caesar almost NEVER fails to reason doing things for the sake of experimentation.

Even when threatening to get revenge on Luffy in his crew, he claims he will think of the perfect experiment to get rid of them with.

There are a few evil acts that go against this, but it's massively outweighed by his general sort of "mad scientist" motivation that Oda constantly pushed

>>159407977

He's the father of Katakuri

Señor vs Franky is the best fight in the history of one piece

>>159408648
Franky x Robin doesn't work. They have totally different sleep schedules.

>>159409282
He was mostly dicking around in his lab, blowing money on hookers and blow while he killed off his own men whenever they stopped amusing him. He poisoned kids with addictive drugs just to keep them from running away on an island where they could never do that anyway, and hired hitmen to take out his security detail's captain because he lost a fight. He's overjoyed to learn his weapon is slaughtering people on another island, and bitches the whole time he's forced to save people from it while still demanding credit.

Caesar is absolutely hilarious, but he's scum. He's an awful person that the manga relishes in abusing, degrading and mocking. It makes no illusions of him as a good person or a friend of the Strawhats, he's just a recurring amusing asshole like Buggy but with FAR worse crimes under his belt.

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>>159408563
And? If I learned anything from Naruto its that you can say and do anything as long as you say sorry.

>>159407309
Luffy is going to eat that bento for a whole minute in the anime. Like Yoruichi in Bleach.

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>>159409330
Nope. Streusen's his dad

>>159409500
>Caesar was CANON banging bookers
And this was in the anime too. Seems like Oda is done shying away from mature topics.

>>159409117
I think Judge's near death acknowledgement that he fucked his sons over by taking their emotions away will end up coming back in some way regarding Sanji's development. I don't think Sanji will end up with a raid suit, but I do think he won't leave WCI hating his family the way he does now.

>>159409606
Hookers* kek

>>159408648
I think Luffy x Vivi is more likely.
We'll have to wait for the arc to end to see if Sani x Purin happens.
Until then my bets Sanji x Nami.

>>159409500
People are afraid of losing him. That's why they want him to join. Him becoming good would take away half his charm though.

>>159400493

What is this from