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So the final chapter of Muv-Luv Alternative dropped a week ago.

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So the final chapter of Muv-Luv Alternative dropped a week ago. It's a lot more hopeful than I thought it'd be. It's 2049. Humanity is still around and they've gotten pretty advanced. They now have G-Reactors of their own, hyperadvanced TSFs, massed produced Susanoo types, Rutherford-Kouzuki Fields, and FTL space travel. Kasumi is the commissioner of United Humankind (総監/commissioner of the 人類統合体 ), and they're sending an envoy (backed by force) through a warpgate to make peace with the Siliconians (the BETA's creators).

Apparently, the Master (looking even more like Theo from Schwarzesmarken) never got on board with United Humankind for whatever reason (he's shown, all shadow like, when Kasumi mentions that some humans are resisting their unification efforts).

Manga was written by Kouki himself, so I'd say that it supersedes all other canon. Thank /m/ for the uploads.
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>>159386063
>Subject
>in the name field

God, I'm such a faggot sometimes.
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>>159386179
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>>159386137
Boy's just jealous that he couldn't escape to a universe where he could be reunited with his dead waifus.
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>>159386280
Last page.
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>>159386063
Kasumi's looking pretty good for a woman in her sixties.
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>>159386487
Anti aging tech. Yui and Yuuya were still head turners despite being in their 50s in that one side story.
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>"No one cares, stupid bunny. Shut up."
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>>159386487
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So they have eternal loli technologies,.
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Why does Theo hate charismatic utilitarians?
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>>159387338
Mankind's greatest achievement.
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>>159387338
Takeru returned to the wrong universe.
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>>159387370
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>>159386063
How is Kasumi here? I thought the actual alternative Kasumi was sent to extra world?
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How is Matika cuter than Cryska when their designs are so similar?
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>>159386137
Why would Theo resist United Mankind?

Isn't that what Katia wanted? Isn't that why he was fighting against Beatrix, who believed that mankind could never work together?
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>>159388013
>what Katia wanted
To get as many cute girls killed as possible?
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>>159387450
>actual alternative Kasumi was sent to extra world?
age's 10th anniversary confirmed otherwise; we can think of the one in AF as a deep copy.
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>>159388013
>Why would Theo resist United Mankind?
Because he had no ideals of his own in '83, his motivation wasn't even Iris' or Katia's Ideals, just getting back at the Stasi. The VN more than proves it. And Beatrix was just a extremely unstable, cynical Yuuko who did her own dirty work and had abandoned her morals. If he recognized the similarities between them, it would follow that he would fight against her and her spiritual heirs.
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>>159386467
>those last few speech bubbles
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eEcBuYj4v8#t=1m03s
Classy, age. Very classy.
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>>159389167
Dumbfriede.
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>>159388973
>The VN more than proves it.
How? Wasn't his motivation to protect Iris and realize a future that was kinder to his people?
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>>159386063
But anime adaptation of the trilogy when?
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>>159390579
It'd be impossible to adapt/turn a profit.
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>>159388099
I need those Kyoko CGs
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>>159390349
>Wasn't his motivation to protect Iris
Indeed, but she is easily and quickly replaced after her death or rightfully swapped out for Lise. He also idolized her too much to understand what she wanted and blocked out anything that didn't fit into his ideal of her. In the end, what he believed she wanted and what she really wanted are two different things, that overlapped for a while, but likely would have diverged more and more in time.

>and realize a future that was kinder to his people?
Because she wanted it. But once she isn't there to remind him, he doesn't seem to mind too much that its only the people who are wearing the hats who changed and the rebellions only major achievement is allowing the people to flee west, which is only a positive because the line falls. There were no higher ethics or ideals involved, he was in it out of infatuation, hatred and revenge.

The perfect example is when he hears Beatrix out on her plan, and specifically condems the parts which overlap with the rebels, calling them naive and silly, and considers the rest of it quite viable. While blindly supporting them when they come out of Katia's mouth, believing them to be what Iris wanted.
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>>159386063
>finally an ending to the MLA timeline where bratty savior saves the world
>it's happy

I doubt there's a point in sending envoys to the Siliconians. They're probably dead by this point. I would even argue that it'd a dangerous idea.

If humanity is so advanced then haven't they trampled all over the beta at this point?
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>>159392903
Probably cause there's 50 gorillion of them
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>>159392949
The universe is crawling with them but they're gone from Earth, Moon, and Mars by this point, right?
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>>159392626
>The perfect example is when he hears Beatrix out on her plan, and specifically condems the parts which overlap with the rebels, calling them naive and silly, and considers the rest of it quite viable.
I thought it was the other way around, where he agrees with the parts that Katia espouses, but sees everything else as stupid or defeatist.
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>>159386063
Is the mango being scanlated by any group? When will we be able to read the entire thing?

People threw an insane amount of money into the Muv Luv kickstarter, there's more than enough people interested in the series to justify this.
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>>159393279
Most of the people who threw money for the kickstarter had already read the VN and don't have much interest in the manga adaptation.
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>>159386063
>Rutherford-Kouzuki Fields
Are those like Lazaford fields?
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>>159393142
No, he thinks that trusting the west to help them is stupid and naive, and that her belief that the line can be held is overly optimistic. Her reasoning on why full mobilization, centralized control and fusion of Stasi and NVA are supposedly necessary he understands, accepts as reasonable and then discards based on Iris having told him that Beatrix is evil.

>>159393279
>is the mango being scanlated by any group?
Yes
>When will we be able to read the entire thing?
Years from now, they are still at the coup arc.
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>>159393318
I don't think there's anybody who's read and enjoyed the VN that would not love to know how that world's storyline ends.

Do they consider the girls who died in Operation Ouka to be saints or something? That sounds like what would happen.

>>159393459
>still at the coup arc
Is it moving at a snail's pace?
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>>159393524
I'd rather get more TDA.
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>>159393580
I'd love more TDA myself too but we all know how that world ends.
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>>159388099
So... did they?
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>>159393524
>Is it moving at a snail's pace?
Assuming it's still Tonigobe doing it, yes, and with really fucking poor English that just makes it a chore to read.
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>>159393524
>Do they consider the girls who died in Operation Ouka to be saints or something?
Aren't the Valkyries' Ops top secret and their deaths covered up? I remember that Izumi's death was reported as a training accident. Its likely that they simply were glossed over in official reports.

>Is it moving at a snail's pace?
The(ir?) translator seems quite amateurish to me. Its likely he can't translate that fast or has something in RL that gets in the way. Or both.

>>159393862
They already did, but anons still are denying it.
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>>159394366
The translator has kept the same poor translation quality for several years, actually. As for IRL stuff, he primarily focuses on translating commissioned H-manga/doujins with other translations being secondary.
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>>159394366
They also implied that in the far future, when humanity had already been saved, that the Valkyries would get recognition for their bravery.
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>>159394497
What are they saying about the 666th and Argos Flight?
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>>159394497
So Kasumi is finally going to give them their due?
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>>159394598
>666th and Argos Flight?
Everyone in germany most likely sucks the formers dick, and the UN likely tried to cover up the fact that the main test pilot of the latter deserted with the top of the line TSF they were developing. They should have had pretty good PR before that though.
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>>159394601
I am not OP, just saying what I remember from the VN.

The /m/ thread is here.
>>>/m/15636200
Scroll down.
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>>159394711
The 666th did give them their freedom, hope, and ultimately lives. If the stasi had won, they'd have been ground to dust against the BETA.
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>>159387370
So Beatrix won at the end? mankind united focusing on BETA guided by a strong leader.
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>>159395942
>So Beatrix won at the end?
No, someone realized her goal on a larger scale, using far less fucked up methods. Her diagnostic was right, but the cure she offered wasn't viable.
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>>159395942
More like Katia's goals.
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>>159396415
Considering that working with the west was perhaps the only thing both Katia and Beatrix agreed on, and Theo apparently opposes it, he isn't necessarily wrong.
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>>159396656
Well, Katia was correct in both means and ends. Beatrix means were evil and ultimately lead to her destruction.
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>>159397947
No. It took a literal TSF piloting god and greatest genius of all time to undo the fuck up that happened after the rebels won. And many waifu material girls had to be sacrificed. Moderates are the most evil group in Muv-Luv.
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>>159397947
>Katia was correct in both means
You mean she lucked out when one time Beatrix switched sides, one time the West came to rescue the rebels from their folly and one time the BETA offensive was held. The methods she tacitly endorsed could and would have led to the collapse of the front months ahead of the most pessimistic scedule. Katia never really expresses anything more than "remove Stasi" and "work with the west".
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>>159392533
Don't have em, but I do have Yui's friend:

http://imgur.com/a/Xe65u
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>>159399372
>Yuuhi lewds
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>>159399372
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>>159398969
Context
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>>159399372

Damn, is there no wide shot of her in just her underwear? Only the zoom in?
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>>159401179
Yui rapes Kyoko in a fit of rage. Seriously, that's what happens. It's like they're trying to up the Beatrix scene from the last SM scenario.
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Rutherford fields are fucking awesome.
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Rutherford_Field

I don't care about the Susano. Give me Rutherford fields. Tear down BETA waves with Rutherford fields.
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>>159386137
>>159386063

So Theo and the rest of Allegiance really were BETA worshippers.

What a dumb big brother. Imouto deserved far better.
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That's great and all but WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FINAL TDA CHAPTERS KOUKI
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>>159402321
Why did they made a dumb spinoff instead of putting that stuff directly in MLA?
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>>159402362
No Idea.
All reason why I want it is since it fills in what happened after unlimited.
It basically completes it
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>>159402907
He gets blown to another dimension where he's a test pilot and has to chase after a stolen mech across the stardust fields.
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>>159402017
Don't know about that. It seems like Theo went and did a Beatrix and decided to burn everything down rather than change his ways when a better option presented itself. Being so driven can be dangerous if you become rutted on your path.
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When is KimiMuv Part 6 coming out?
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>>159386063

Shit ending.
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>>159403601
It makes sense but wooshing Takeru away takes away any kind of weight it could have.
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>>159386137
Theo looks scarier than Beatrix or Sandek here.
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>>159386179
>space based TSFs
This makes me rock hard.
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>>159403185
why do people want Kurogane to get send to another universe where his waifu's don't exist?
Ain't that cruel?
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>>159403652
>>159387370
>>159388013
>>159388973
>>159396656
>>159402017
>>159403434

Theo =/= Master

There is literally no concrete proof yet.
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>>159402017
You know that one panel doesn't confirm Theo being the Master or his inner workings anymore than anything else on the Master thats come before right? I'm just waiting on them actually doing that entire story arc to explain the how and why everything happened but as of yet the more they drag this out the more the superficial visual similarities between the two feel like a red herring no pun intended.

>>159404262
Yeah that.
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>>159404262
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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>>159404335
>you don't have proof thing exists
>well you can't prove thing doesn't exist so there
Careful anon.
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>>159404398
There's visual proof Theo is the master, we're not speaking purely on unknown terms.
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>>159404461
Its not proof though its evidence that makes it more likely and I agree with you but theres a lot left before its proven let alone explicitly confirmed.
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>>159394601
You got the last lines of the mango (from Kasumi,also here >>159389167) but it's not saying much.
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>>159404509
>Its not proof though its evidence
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>>159386179
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>>159406762
Proof requires sufficient evidence the two words are not interchangeable.
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