Do you think the movies will make Sakura as popular as she ought

>>159081127
>She's a wormslut for crying out loud.
ftfy

>>159081127
She's always been decently popular since the very start. She's not at the top like Saber and Rin because she's not meant to be a shallow otaku-pandering character like them, but a deep and controversial one.

>>159082516
Well, she did beat Rin that one time, though.

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>>159082516
>deep

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>>159081127
Stilgar, have we Wormsign?

>>159084156
Nice crossboarder reaction pic.

>>159084177
holy shit my sides
you win, anon

>>159081127
I hope it flops so the fate Ride may end.

>>159082516
The only thing deep about wormslut are her holes

Those worms dug really deep

>>159081127
She has a really nice rack. That's about it.

>>159084177
>>159084208
>>159084325
>no new IP

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>>159084361

>>159081127
She's always been Top 5 in Fate popularity rankings, and Top 10 in TM overall popularity rankings.

She's as popular as she can get.

The fact that a the she is a wormslut makes her so best girl. She is popular already.

>>159082516
>she's not meant to be a shallow otaku-pandering character

Did we read the same VN?

>>159084756
Did you read HF? It was all about her inner darkness getting exposed.

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>>159082516
>Sakura
>deep

>>159081127
Post Sakura and Shirou kissing please

WORMS

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As far as I'm concerned, Mind of Steel should have been the true end for her route.

If she was truly pure and strong of will, she would've tried to endlessly rebel and commit suicide. Better proudly dead than a fucktoy tool. Enduring torment to be a fucktoy tool and harm others IS NOT a sign of strength or conviction but defeat. Enough other Fate gals who die true than a tool to not give a fuck about Sakura.

>>159084250
Fuck no. There's alot of characters that need more spotlight. Like muh moe autistic alien who'd defy her creators/purpose and fight her own existence to keep you safe.

>>159084156
>>159086487
There seems to be a correlation between negative opinions of Sakura and crossboarder reaction images. I wonder why that could be.

>>159086952
>hurr the innocent victim should die for the sins of the one who made them that way
In HF True, she's pure, strong of will and alive. By not giving up and deciding to stay alive, Sakura was able to finally get rid of Zouken. That's something to be proud of.

>>159084939
Aside from that she's still the same generic "good girl" archetype.

>>159087283
There are plenty of "victims". Nothing particularly admirable about them or the base human desire to try and survive regardless of your own dignity, use and risk to others yadda yadda. However, the ones to truly admire and waifu are those who are MARTYR material. Again, better proudly dead than wormslut fucktoy.

Getting "rid" of Zouken wasn't her achievement. It was after innocent lives were spent and the one she loves had to give up his fucking dream (and the future people he would have saved). In Japan there's a proverb that defending a man's PRIDE is the DUTY of a woman. If she was a good woman she would've done that and killed herself earlier so none of that shit would've happened.

Shinji has a knife against you? Grab it and slash your throat and tell Shirou to not give the Matou pigs a fucking thing. Now that would've been badass.

>>159087283
>not giving up and deciding to stay alive
Stop romanticizing it. Sakura had long resigned herself to her fate. She didn't "decide to stay alive", she was too cowardly to do anything on her own. If taking everyone's beatings and only later snapping and killing them later makes her courageous, then that would apply to every nerd who goes on a shooting rampage as well.

>>159087552
>better proudly dead than wormslut fucktoy.
Good thing she wasn't a "wormslut fucktoy", but a lovable, pitiable innocent victim who deserved happiness to make up for all that she had been through. Disagree with that, and you're just a fundamentally disgusting person.

>Getting "rid" of Zouken wasn't her achievement.
It was, though. She crushed his main worm with her very own fingers.

>It was after innocent lives were spent
Due to the actions of Zouken and the grail. Made her killing him all the more heroic, not to mention she was intending on sacrificing her life to destroy the grail.
>the one she loves had to give up his fucking dream
If his dream entailed killing innocent victims like her for the sake of the rapist delinquent scum we saw in nightmare scenes, then he obviously was much better off without it.

> If she was a good woman she would've done that and killed herself
You do realize Shirou's mind breaks completely in the Geas end where Sakura gets killed in front of him, right? Also, nobody had died when he first made his decision. There is no "if", she is good.

>>159087806
No, you stop criticizing it. She was courageous, get over it.

>>159088105
>She was courageous, get over it.
Sure anon, it takes a lot of courage to be your brother's cum dump.

>>159088286
>getting raped means you're a coward
It takes a lot of courage to go against someone who's been experimenting on your body since you were five.

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>>159081127
She's already the best.

And Shirou's canon wife

>>159081127

WORM

>>159088569
Good answer anon.

She's literally a whore, given everything that she did with Shinji. It even says in the game that she fucks like an experienced prostitute.

>>159088105
>fundamentally disgusting person
But not wrong.

>>159088445
Shinji wasn't involved in any of that.

>>159089293
Exactly, the one she stood up to was the far more dangerous Zouken. The reason she didn't stand up to Shinji wasn't due to cowardice in the first place, but due to her being far too kind for her own good and pitying him.

>>159089622
>but due to her being far too kind for her own good and pitying him.

In other words she's a disgusting whore.

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>>159089076
Shirou and Kotomine selling out but not Sakura implies that it's merchandise based on the old F/SN anime. In that case, it makes perfect sense, considering she was a complete non-entity there. Making fun of her for secondaries not being familiar with her yet is pretty silly to say the least.

>>159082516
The only thing deep about Sakura is her throat.

I liked her until it got to the part in the VN about her relationship with Shinji. Since then her character just disgusts me.

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>>159090001

>>159090141
>no new IP
>more "muh shinji" bullshit

>>159090152
Rin saving Shinji pissed me off pretty bad.

Ufotable better not skimp out on the gory details of what happens to Shinji in HF.

>>159088445
>getting raped means you're a coward
Letting Shinji do as he pleased made her a coward. "Too kind" is an excuse to dress it, she had low self-esteem and let people step on her because she felt she deserved it and it was safer than acting out.

That one tiny and stupid act meant nothing; it was the power she acquired through circumstance and her boyfriend's sacrifices for her sake that made the difference. The most Sakura did was go on a murderous rampage and antagonize the people who cared about her, getting btfo by both Kirei and Rin and forced to face what a weak person she was.

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>>159090062
No point in using logic with those committed to misunderstanding/hating her anon.

Best girl, best route, and best pairing. End of discussion.

>>159090243
It's a legitimate complaint. Sakura isn't Kohaku or something. She's not entirely a victim. She enjoyed getting fucked all the time.

>>159090306
His death was instantaneous and not particularly gory.

>>159081127

WORMS
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>>159090253
Why? He is Sakura's brother.

>>159090451
He tried to rape Rin prior to her saving him. Also everything that he did to Sakura that you learn about in HF. At least Ilya had Berserker kill him in Fate.

>>159081127
Her popularity has always been decent. She's just not that popular like Saber (who still fucking tops in polls even though FSN ended a few yrs ago) and Rin. And no, I don't think it'd change especially when she gets overshadowed by characters like Rin, Ilya and Kirei in her own route. She'll get easily overshadowed by Saber Alter as well considering the nips has a huge boner for her. Funny thing is Rin was better in HF than in UBW.

>>159090321
>"Too kind" is an excuse to dress it
Literally Nasu's own words.
>That one tiny and stupid act meant nothing; it was the power she acquired through circumstance and her boyfriend's sacrifices for her sake that made the difference.
What one act? If you had actually read the route instead of shitposting memes, you would know that she does it several times over the course of the route, such as saving Shirou from getting killed by him and True Assassin.
>The most Sakura did was go on a murderous rampage
She never does that.
>antagonize the people who cared about her,
She wants Rin and Shirou to run away on the final night so she can sacrifice herself, though. If anything, Rin's the one who keeps antagonizing the people close to her in HF.

>>159090516
He didn't get to rape Rin and changed his character after the experience. Rin doesn't hate him, she doesn't care about him, but Sakura does.

>>159090378
>She enjoyed getting fucked all the time.
Even Shinji and his delusional perspective reveals that she was at best apathetic, though.

>>159090702
>He didn't get to rape Rin
Only because Lancer saved her.
>and changed his character after the experience
According to Shirou who in UBW is completely clueless about Sakura's actual circumstances

>>159090709
>she was at best apathetic
It says that she had no emotional response to any of it. On the physical level was "drowned in lewdness."

>>159090636
>Literally Nasu's own words.
So what? Anyone can dress up behavior. Sakura was a glorified sex doll/punching bag for most of the series.
>What one act?
Going off to face her grandpa alone.
>She never does that.
She literally does that.
>She wants Rin and Shirou to run away on the final night so she can sacrifice herself, though.
Rendering all her boyfriend's actions meaningless is something to applaud?

>>159090834
>It says that she had no emotional response to any of it.
Which is the part that matters. Enjoyment is an emotion.

>>159090834
>Only because Lancer saved her.
He still didn't do it. Just showed what she already knew, he's a pathetic person. Do you remember how easily he was thwarted?

And Shirou knows how Shinji is. If he says he returned to normal, he's probably right.

>>159090900
>Sakura was a glorified sex doll/punching bag for most of the series.
She was raised to believe that was all she could ever be since she was five, so blaming her for that is ridiculous. However, her feelings for Shinji were explicitly stated to be pity. Even Shinji is aware of it as seen in his flashback, and that's what fuels his inferiority complex even more.
>Going off to face her grandpa alone.
And she went against several times before that in the route too. In fact, the very reason Shinji gets Rider in the first place is because she goes against Zouken's wishes to have her fight in the war, and she thinks Rider can't do much harm with Shinji as a master.
>She literally does that.
Nope, she only kills four villains in self-defense.
>Rendering all her boyfriend's actions meaningless is something to applaud?
Funny, weren't you just advocating for her to commit suicide?

>>159090939
You're playing semantics at this point. On the physical level she clearly enjoyed it. The game makes a point of this multiple times. But I guess despite fucking him like an animal for years she's still pure because she didn't love him or something. Lol.

>>159091038
>And Shirou knows how Shinji is.
No he doesn't know how Shinji is. The most he knows is that Shinji has hit her in the past and orders her around. He never even learns all of it in HF.

>>159090621
I would not be surprised if Ufotable adds new Saber Alter scenes.

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>>159088569
Saber is Shirou's canon soulmate though.

>>159091220
>No he doesn't know how Shinji is.
He knows Shinji's personality. If he says he's changed, he has. The hidden history of the Matou siblings is irrelevant to this.

Shirou just needs to man up and marry Luvia.

>>159091281
Yes of course his platonic soulmate. Those two are basically kindred spirits in how much they're alike.

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>>159091423
>platonic soulmate
It's not good to lie to yourself.

Saber - knows how to please men and suck cocks
Rin - fucks Saber and masturbates to Shirou fucking Saber
Sakura - worms, sex slave of her brother

Why are they all sluts

>>159091413
But Luvia pleases Tsundere Maji for free.

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>>159091220
>On the physical level she clearly enjoyed it. The game makes a point of this multiple times.
[citation needed]
That would also be due to the experiments Zouken conducted on her body if so, hence why it doesn't mean shit how her body reacted. Her needing mana to live doesn't mean she enjoyed getting raped. Pic out of context, but related.
>she's still pure because she didn't love him or something.
Yes, that actually is exactly how it works. Her feelings for Shirou are pure, so she still is pure no matter what Zouken and Shinji did to her.
>Lol.
Holy shit, lurk more.

>>159091190
>She was raised to believe that was all she could ever be since she was five
She wasn't raised to believe that, she developed that belief.
>However, her feelings for Shinji were explicitly stated to be pity.
So what? That doesn't preclude her being having low self-esteem, being weak-willed and cowardly. Her pity extends from feelings of guilt over taking what he felt was his. So she let him boss her around and do what he wanted. See, don't need to be some pure angel to this, and Sakura was most certainly not one.
>the very reason Shinji gets Rider in the first place is because she goes against Zouken's wishes to have her fight in the war
Shinji wanted to be a Master. Sakura didn't challenge that because she wouldn't challenge him and she didn't want to participate anyway.
>Nope, she only kills four villains in self-defense.
Nah, she was just a raging murderer. Even admitted it.
>Funny, weren't you just advocating for her to commit suicide?
Nope, that was another poster. What's funny is you being up Nasu even though Nasu also says Shinji is a bro despite being a selfish dick, which makes you whiteknights angry.

>>159082516
>illya not top girl
shit taste rins a 2nd

>>159091190
Also, good job trying to skirt over the fact she was going to render all of Shirou's sacrifices meaningless. She's a shitty heroine just for that.

>>159091876
>she developed that belief.
Through how she was raised. Let's not pretend Shinji didn't constantly call her the most misogynistic slurs he could think of.
>See, don't need to be some pure angel to this, and Sakura was most certainly not one.
Her feeling guilt and pity despite how awfully Shinji behaves kind of makes it clear what a pure angel she is. Usually, one would maybe feel some at first, then go "fuck it" after the first punch. She outright had a mental breakdown and thought she had become a monster beyond redemption for accidentally killing him in self-defense.
>Sakura didn't challenge that because she wouldn't challenge him and she didn't want to participate anyway.
Exactly, but she had to turn down Zouken when he told her about the grail war. The interlude at the start of HF explicitly notes that she's risking her life when asking Zouken if she can opt out of the war. Her relinquishing Rider to Shinji comes after that.
>Nah, she was just a raging murderer. Even admitted it.
Sure, she was angry at them, but she was definitely justified to kill Shinji, Kotomine, Zouken and True Assassin.
>which makes you whiteknights angry.
Assuming makes an ass out of you.

>>159091996
You might as well say Saber was a shitty heroine because she went back to die in the end despite Shirou risking his life to save her multiple times in Fate. From Sakura's perspective, she had no idea what Shirou wanted to accomplish at that point (remember, he kept Rule Breaker a secret until the very last second), and Rin made it seem like she was just obsessed with killing Sakura. Sakura was trying to die a noble death while saving those she loved from dying a meaningless death.

Why were the worms in Kariya outwardly visible while Sakura's are concealed?

>>159092340
Kariya's worm training was rushed and done much later in his life than it should have been. Him being a man and his lack of magic potential had to do with it too.

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Does anyone remember this scene from the UBW anime? I've gone through the entire OST and not found the track on it. Am I just retarded?

>>159081127
>wormslut
>popular
>ought to be

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>>159091413
Luvia should just take what belongs to her

>>159091281
Sakura is THE WIFE anon, no matter the universe

Sakura is fine. I rather like her, certainly favorite of three main heroines, though not by very large margin.
I do not adore or worship her though.
She is ultimately just a human, a flawed being. Portrayal of woman that actually comes off as realistic.

What she needed, was a man who'd give her life a direction, while being kind to her. Half of problems in HF, is Shirou being unwilling to act like one, because it would have to involve some "harsh love", something overprotective Mr nice would feel very reluctant about.

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>>159096520
But she is.

>>159090621
Saber Alter was always a less popular variant of Saber. But due to recent events, I'd suppose she on her own can beat out Sakura.

>>159099212
Nice post ESL-kun, but avoid the overusage of commas.

>>159099212
>Portrayal of woman that actually comes off as realistic.

That's one of the reasons she's shit

>>159090321

Actually, if you read Nasu's Q&A about the UBW anime, he says that had Sakura known about the Bloodfort, she would have "turned Shinji into even more of a wakame". So calling her a coward is patently wrong. Hell, Nasu says in Complete Material II that Sakura would be much happier if she stopped having empathy for people, so that tells you she wasn't just giving in, she was trying to live her life as best she could. See Rider's scene in Hollow for why she is so loyal to Sakura. It's enlightening.

Fighting in the war or killing herself is meaningless, as both provide no good alternatives for her. She was a character that was honestly fucked over, so killing herself ultimately has no pride or anything correlating to it, she just ends up dead for nothing. There is no badass part to that.

It's like people deluding themselves and trying to hype someone up as a sacrifice as being a good thing, when they are asking that person to end their life for them. If there is anything disgusting, it's the disingenuous nature of romanticizing sacrifice. In this instance, she always had a way to live and the protagonists are being tricked into thinking her only choice is euthanasia throughout the whole route, so these ideas of her killing herself are even sillier.

Also, this thread already had the answer to the question long ago, Sakura is an iconic Fate character, who has been more popular than even the MC and a lot of other popular TM characters for a long time, getting regular birthday celebrations even from other people in the anime industry, the movie will give her more exposure, but she has been one of TM's most popular for close to a decade now.

>ITT: yet another Fate thread becomes endless circlejerking about plot details instead of posting Fate girls

>>159101383
>he says that had Sakura known about the Bloodfort, she would have "turned Shinji into even more of a wakame"

This kind of shit is meaningless. Oh, if she knew about the bloodfort. That said while she's getting raped by him for years without resisting it. The more I think about her character the more I hate her.

>>159090516
Yeah but Shinji overall is a pretty cool guy and Slutkura deserved it anyways, for being a mass murderer and all. If anything, she got away too lightly.

>>159099366

The thing is, there is a difference between Alter as a seperate character, and Alter as Saber, darkened.

There were people back in the day who were surprised that Dark Sakura was loooowww on the list compared to normal Sakura, and on a Monogatari poll, there were people flabbergasted that Black Hanekawa was soundly beaten by the regular, and this was back when Black Hanekawa (and in the FSN comparison Dark Sakura) had more enthusiastic art pieces than their regular selves. Now that is not the case. Times change.

A poll made now would be swayed heavily because of the Servants, because of GO, and the fact the large majority of its playerbase know nothing about the original work, and only would vote based on who seems shallowly prettier or superficially "awesome", so yeah, Saber Alter would be higher on the list than she would in the past. Though you'd have to accept the votes would be largely from people who don't really care for characters or TM in general.

>>159101545

She did resist him wholesale in the beginning, the issue has always been that when she does, he always brings up that she took his place, or that she is tainted now, so he would spread her shame around town. She knows the guy is delusional beyond delusional, and will do worse things if she refuses, on top of her feeling pity for him not seeing the truth of the Matou family despite seeing it firsthand. It's a difficult thing because she was raised with him and knows what being fucked over as the child of a magus feels like, though of course, she was the more hosed of the two.

As a magus, she could bring him to heel, that has always been a thing, but she doesn't want to do that primarily because she hates doing those type of things. It's like how she could casually drain people to offset the worms soul sucking her all the time, but she hates the Matou's magic of "stealing from others". That was something you see when she talks to Shirou privately about magecraft.

>>159092404

Wrong. Kariya even says himself that the reason Sakura seems tougher than he is, is because that is true. Her potential is oceans ahead of his and her max MP is miles higher. Him being rushed is the reason he'll die quicker, but he would always die anyway. Why do you think he left the household years before and never looked back?

The worms will devour a person who can't support them, male or female.

>>159102043
>She did resist him wholesale in the beginning, the issue has always been that when she does, he always brings up that she took his place, or that she is tainted now, so he would spread her shame around town.
No, she only resisted him the first time that he raped her. After that she did whatever he told her to do. That's specifically what the VN says.
>She knows the guy is delusional beyond delusional, and will do worse things if she refuses, on top of her feeling pity for him not seeing the truth of the Matou family despite seeing it firsthand. ...
Yes, her poor rapist brother. He got emotionally wounded so being his sex slave makes sense. She is a disgusting character and everything you typed out just reinforces it.

>>159091281
More like his canon noble confidant.

>>159093155
The part where Rin is trying to deny to Lancer that main dude likes her?

CP fourth run fucking when?

>>159102317

The VN tells us these things through two perspectives, one is Sakura, who always exaggerates that she is dirty and whatnot, as abuse victims tend to do.

Another is Shinji, who is delusional. Who thinks that whatever he does to Sakura, she enjoys it despite the hollowness of her eyes and the clearly written fact that she does resist and tell him to stop, and he always reminds her of everything. If anything, the text proves that he uses a mixture of blackmail and playing up the pity card, then gets violent if that doesn't work, because we have evidence of physical abuse as well.

If you are saying that is disgusting, you must be new to the fact that this is common behavior from abuse victims. There are usually two types, those who internalize it, like Sakura, and those who express it violently toward other people than the aggressor.

See how she treats him post UBW, she takes it as water under the bridge and encourages him, and moves on. And this is without therapy mind you. If anything, it's hilarious the abuse victim is the one who gives therapy to the abuser. The problem with Nasu is that he tries to make it seem like Shinji was a decent person, when he is ultimately a spoiled brat, by Nasu's own admission, when he says that Shinji let go of his aspirations toward magecraft, but altogether there were no fundamental changes post UBW. No apologies or anything. It's weird admittedly.

So what would have happened if Gil went full REEEEEE and used a full power Ea?

>>159090621

In HF Sakura has some pretty good scenes. And an animation where you are able to see firsthand the good sort of stuff she does in HF because it's not stuck to Shirou's viewpoint might help things out a little.

Like when she sends Rider to help Shirou out at the temple, she is openly opposing Zouken, using life energy to power Rider that she is almost fatally low on, and does so without fanfare or asking for credit. Seeing that context will be important for understanding Sakura has no good options, and unlike Saber or Rin, can't hotblood shounen power her way out of things.

>>159102995
I hope he survives in the movies. I really do.

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>>159091413
>Shirou just needs to man up and marry Caren*

is there anything better then having babies with the daughter of the guy who killed your dad?

So how is ufotable gonna fuck up Nine Lives Blade Works?

>>159103508
They'll skip lines of the chant

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>>159081127
it'll be an uphill battle to say the least. Everything in the popularity polls is skewed because TYPE-MOON's made male characters people really really like, an in Archer's case, popular enough to trump a main heroin (Arceuid).

>>159081127
>as popular as she ought to be
I suppose there is a chance the movies will make her even less popular. we can always hope.

>>159101652
>for being a mass murderer and all
>the literal first person she kills is Shinji, and then she only kills three other villains
What did he mean by this?

>>159101652
>shinji
every right to kill him
>zouken
every right to kill himx10
>Gilgamesh
self defense

>the shadow
isnt sakura

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>>159102995
He was right.
Shirou is just a more autistic Shinji.
He deserved to die just as much.

>>159103910
>Shirou is just a more autistic Shinji.
except shirou can manage to do something without fucking up

>>159103750

It's more like, every one of those characters is pretty decently popular, so up to the top ten you are getting into iconic range.

The Mahoyo characters excluded, since it was brand new at the time, and most of the fan comments about Aoko were literally, "Boobs, boobs, boobs".

Plus that poll was made off numbers of who would you take as your first, second, and third favorites. So characters get inflated numbers by being liked by people who had them as their second or third favorite, because the total decided the ranking.

So for example, that means Sakura is liked by a good number of people who also like Rin, and there are also a decent number of Rin fans who probably like Sakura.

The fact that the purple haired kouhai got into the top ten like three polls in a row means her popularity is fine.

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Sakura is the best Stay Night and when this movie finally comes out, all the casuals will know it too.

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>>159088569
>>159091281
Yet, Rin is only one who got canonically knocked up by Shirou.

>>159105500

Probably because Saber can't have kids.

And it wasn't written for Sakura yet. Plus it only implies it for Rin, she hasn't gotten tested yet. She basically just banged the boy on an unsafe day and gave him the cliche, "you're gonna take responsibility, tee-hee" that you get.

>>159081127
No one likes her, and no one ever will.

>>159106457
>wormslutfag

>>159090621
Nah, her popularity will definitely rise with the films. Western fans may dislike her but the nips don't.

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>>159081127
No but they'll finally give Medusa the spotlight after being the first Servant killed in the last two routes.

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I'm so glad the director of HF is a Sakurafag.

Spark Liner High end canon end.

>>159081127
Nope.

Unless they change literally everything about her from the VN she will still end up as an unlikable cunt who ruins an otherwise great route.

Wasn't there supposed to be a new PV, anyway?

All the HF film will do is confirm that the niche Sakura fanbase are the most cancerous people here.

>movie

Why are people pretending that this wont be completely shit?

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I personally can't wait for the scene where Shinji becomes Lancer.

>>159110054
Sakurafags have never had much in the way of hope. Let them have their moment here, however pointless it may be.

MATOU SAKURA PLEASES WORMS FOR FREE OHOHOHOHOH

>>159109987
whats wrong with her?

>>159106457
Saber isn't a Heroic Spirit yet, and even then you could always dunk the grail on her. Or pull an Angry Manjew/JANNU and hijack a human body.

Sakura gets the focus in HF movies
Sakura shares the focus with Miyu as main girl the focus in the Prisma movie (they will probably even add a scene of the Anisworths giving Sakura the Lancelot card)

Its like Pottery It Rhythms

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>>159109932

It's a good feeling.

Expect Shadow Chibi plushies for the blu-ray box set.

>>159110054
Because it will be three movies and not a Studio Deen 90 minute UBW fiasco.

>>159109987
Considering this very thread shows how Sakura haters are samefagging meme-spewing crossboarders, that's clearly not the case.

>>159109987
>Sakura fanbase are the most cancerous people here.
kek, literally every time sakura is mentiones people shit on her, i doubt its the sakurafags who are the problem

>>159109336
Western fans don't really dislike her either except for a vocal as fuck minority of meming edgelords. Sakura hatred is nearly always tied to /pol/faggotry.

>>159112720
>/pol/faggotry.
don't bring /pol/ into this, its either people who genuinely dislike her or the kind of contrarian edeglord who likes shinji unironically- no need for /pol/ shit