>4th Espada >Strongest one What did Kubo mean by this?

>>159080532
the strongest was Barragan, no espada had the abilities to take him down
Aizen put him 2nd just make him mad

>>159080532
>ichigo beats kenpachi with shikai
>cannot beat A FUCKING HOLLOW (that "minnion" guy) with bankai, needs mask
>kenpachi beats 4th espada by swinging his sword with both hands

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>>159081134
>>159080532
>the strongest was Barragan

>>159081390
Yammy was truly the strongest jobber ever

>>159081336
That was 5th espada.

>>159081628
>rukia horrified to see a menos grande claiming that it would require a special operation by SS
>they end up being cannon fodder

>>159080532
It's not size that matters it's how you use it

>>159080532
If I remember correctly he said he never showed his final transformation to Aizen, thus why he was only at number 4.

I think the real joke was the Vostro Lord's supposedly being stronger than the captians, but then they got beat by then even one on one anyway.

>>159081787
rukia was a noob who got rekt by a low level hollow which led to giving her powers to ichigo in the first place

>>159080532
I think it goes Barragan > Ulqui > Starrk >Fodder

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>>159081390
Here is your zero espada - now, plain zero!

>>159081390
>"Strongest Espada"
>Off paneled

>>159080532
They are ranked by reiatsu. His second form wasn't known publicly hence he is still 4th espada.

>>159081134
Ulquiorra can just throw Lanza de ranpardo at him from a distance. And his regeneration is the "best" (despite not being very impressive to me) so it should help somewhat against respira.

>>159082662
>Lanza de ranpardo
Lanza de Relampago.

>>159082047
>Vostro Lord
Vasto Lorde.

Why you guys still talking about Bleach after all this time?

>>159083322
>Lanza de Relampago.
Lanza del Relampago

>>159081787
Kubo made shit up as he went along.

>>159082662
from a distance he would just detoriate it and make it explode before it hits him like soi fon's bankai
ulquiorra would have to hit him at point blank range but then he would be in respira's range

who is the final boss of bleach? i got bored during the rescue rukia arc

>>159083919
I got bored mid espada arc, but imagine it would be Aizen

>>159083411
It's been a while

If Kubo kept Ulquo alive, would Bleach be better?

>>159080532
I still love this design.

In the first release he sits at 4th, in the second he is the strongest.
Tho I found him more impressive than Harribel even in his first release/

As much as I want to shit on Ulquiorra, I can't help but like what he did in the series. He symbolized despair, and he certainly brought it. He is one of the few shonen antagonists who actually broke the hero, even for a little bit.

-He forced Ichigo to admit that he came to Hueco Mundo not to save Orihime, but to fight Grimmjow.
-Despite all of the training Ichigo did to match the Hollows, Ulquiorra unleashed a second ressurection to widen the immeasurable gap even more. -Hell, Ichigo didn't even beat him, Hollow Ichigo did. He had to sacrifice everything to achieve victory and that should have had longer lasting effects.

>>159084475
Probably

I actually thought he was going to come back when I read the chapter that was just a teaser for the hell movie, since it had two other "dead" espada alive again.
I didn't know it was a movie trailer and had my hopes up for a while.

>>159083919
>>159084296
No it was the leader of the faggot Quincy's

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>>159080532
I love Ulquiorra!

>>159084729
Nice points anon, I agree. He's the type of character I don't usually like but he contributed greatly to the series. The part where he asks Ichigo why he keeps fighting and Ichigo talks about the war being over, then Ulquiorra reveals the 4 tattoo, so good.

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>>159084729
>people STILL think ichigo didn't go to HM to save Orihime

C'mon now, he was visibly depressed after she was kidnapped. For Ichigo to save someone or something, fighting is always involved. Do you seriously think Ichigo was some asshole who didn't care for her when he showed multiple times that he did/does before her kidnapping? Talk about getting such an easy character so wrong. Majority of Bleach readers really are dumb as shit.

>>159084729
Hollow Ichigo IS Ichigo.
There's never been an evil Ichigo or dark mirror Ichigo. That's litterally him and his true power unleashed.

His fight with Ulquirra forced him to unleash the true nature of his bankai and zanpaktou.

>>159080532
Glad to see this thread isn't infested by Starrkfags.

The most formidable Espada was unquestionably either Ulquiorra or Barragan.

All Espadas suck. End of discussion.

>>159089125
Chad pls go

>>159089125
I found them more endearing than the majority of the Vizards and Sternritters.

>>159084729
Hollow Ichigo was his real Zanpakuto spirit. The Zangetsu he normally used was actually his Quincy powers.

>>159080532
He should have came back as Orihime's seventh fairy.

>>159088733
>getting such an easy character so wrong
It's what happens whenever Orihime is involved. People refuse to see the most obvious signs.

>>159088733
In my opinion, he cared about both equally. If it was just about Orihime he would have ran with her just like they said.

>>159089481
>running
Running would have done nothing. How would he have escaped?

>>159083507
>Lanza del Relampago
Lanza del Relámpago.

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>My greatest power isn't my offensive capabilities, but rather my regeneration.....
>*Proceeds to use one of the most visibly impressive attacks in Bleach at that time, an attack he can seemingly spam without any significant stamina problems*

What did he mean by this?

>>159089607
He didn't even regenerate much either. What a shame.

>>159089607
It's powerful, but since he has a hard time controlling it he doesn't consider it as great of an asset as his regeneration. Ulquiorra is about precision and strategy, he wouldn't be that fond of an attack with such unpredictable results.

>>159089607
Compare to Starrk who could fire a thousand Cero without breaking a sweat.

>>159089748
>Starks Ceros that aren't even as big as buildings in The FKT arc

>>159089748
Starrk jobbed though. Ulquiorra should have won.

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>>159089481
Except running away would have done nothing since they would've just showed up in his hometown which would've just endangered more people. Ichigo knew that to truly save Orihime(along with those helping to save her) that he had to fight the final boss which was actually Ulquiorra; it's just like how he saved Rukia in the SS arc yet stuck around to fight Byakuya because he knew he had to fight the "final boss" in order to truly save her and everyone else(he gave a speech about how he had to save Orihime, Chad, Uryu, everyone helping to save her etc)

Fighting is very much connected to saving for Ichigo.

Consider the following:
The quality of Bleach deteriorated when Kubo stopped listening to Punk and started listening to Edgy nu-metal.

That is the most visible split between the aesthetics of SS and HM arcs.

>>159081336
t. Retarded level 1 speedreader who didnt notice that his powers were in conflict and thus reduced his reiryoku considerably

>>159089790
>>159089748

Starrk's wolves, his strongest technique, were also rather unimpressive, both visually and in regards to how it affected characters. Love and Rose, after all, could still fight after being hit by an entire barrage of them.

>>159090031
To be honest Starrk didn't even want to fight. His feet hurt and the music was too loud.

>>159089642
>I can regenerate, except for my vital organs
Then what is the point Kubo, you fucking hack

>>159089215
The Vizards were all boring, jobber trash. The only ones that were even remotely entertaining were Shinji, Hachi, Kensei and Mashiro (because the ass was fat).

The Sternritter were fine for the most part. The sheer number of them meant that some of them needed to be offscreened, but SR of any plot importance were interesting and had powers that weren't just generic as all hell.

>>159089790
>>159089797
>>159090031
I'm talking in terms of tactical offensive specialization here, not just reiatsu quantity, compared to R2 Ulquiorra who specializes in regeneration, with Lanza being more of a signature move. In terms of actual powerlevel I think R2 Ulqiorra > Starrk Resurrection > R1 Ulquiorra but we didn't see much of his first form either.

There was a new poll in JUMP and it focused on the most popular series and Bleach got third beating even One Piece and HxH. How does Kubo keep getting away with it lads?

>>159089517
>Lanza del Relámpago.
La Indestrucible e Increible Lanza de la Destrucción de los Murcielagos y del Relámpago del mundo.

Fucking speedreaders I swear.

>>159090671
>Murcielagos
Murciélagos.

>>159090711
well don't I look like a faggot

>>159090670
Bleach: RE when?

>>159090864
Just a little.

>>159090899
Hopefully never. Just animate Zombie powder please.

>>159090280
The worst part is that he turned to dust. What the fuck is the point of that.

>>159090950
It's the yearly Zombie Powder was good meme. My favorite.

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>>159090961
To break my heart.

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>>159090899
Hopefully soon.

>>159091007
>Zombie Powder wasn't good
You take that back right now faggot, fight me.

As much as I want to shit on Ulquiorra, I can't help but like what he did in the series. He symbolized despair, and he certainly brought it to the readers. He is one of the few shonen antagonists who posed a challenge for the hero to overcome, even for a little bit.

-He is the reason Ichigo came to Hueco Mundo, to save Orihime.
-Despite all of the constant volumes long battles against the Hollows, Kubo unleashed a second ressurection to pad out the arc even more. -Hell, Ichigo didn't even beat him, Togashi did. Kubo had to rip off everything to achieve victory and even Togashi gave more shits about the random power up despite the series ending 10 chapters later.

>>159083919
>>159084296
>>159085116

Nazi Jews Quincies.

>>159091138
You hit the nail on the head, anon.

>>159091078
It's true. The only reason that people think it is good is because of the abrupt ending.

>>159089517
Learn fucking Spanish

that is a misplaced accent

YOU FUCK

>>159080532
4 means death in japan, and they are dead guys, so its obvious the 4 would be the stronger.

>>159090031
>Starrk's wolves
Los Lobos

>>159091834
>Unohana
>Ulquiorra
>Askin Nak Le Varr (The Deathdealing)

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>>159081511
>>159082400
>>159082407
>Everyone still taking this reveal seriously

It was a fucking joke goddamn. He had the highest spiritual pressure but was too retarded to use it. That shit was obvious.

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I mis him..

>>159088733
>Majority of Bleach readers really are dumb as shit
Best quote of the day. Most of the hatred Bleach gets is because of idiots who speedread everything.

>>159090670
Source

>>159090671
>>159090711
La Indestructible(corrected spelling) e increíble(missed the í) lanza de la destrucción de los murciélagos y del relámpago del mundo.*

Capitalization doesn't work the same in Spanish.

>>159092665
he is a retard, there wasn't any new pool. Some anon in the WSJ thread posted the number of votes some jump series got in their first respective character pools. And Bleach its at third place, Naruto its the one with more votes BTW.

>>159092401
I miss the chair

>>159092952
why does he returned to the chair again? every one who was stronger than him was dead by that point.

4 means Death in japan. It was a Japanese Pun

>>159092882
>Bleach first popularity poll was at the middle of the Soul Society arc
>One Piece first popularity poll was at the middle of Krieg arc
Well, It actually makes sense that Bleach had more votes at that point than OP.

>>159089070
>starrkfags
?

>>159089797
Stark had two wins homie. He was beating Shinigami ass.

>>159092999
>Ichigo

>>159090294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hLS1Id8QIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4JJP_Ecpww

Bazz B, Haschwalth, and Askin were the best Sternritters and they deserve to be animated flawlessly.

>>159093787
Didn't Ichigo lost his powers during the Iwach fight?

>>159093788
Bazz B a shit. Just a Quincy edition of Renji just like how Grimmjow was a Hollow edition of him.

>>159093788
I really hate Bazz B, his flashback was just a big waste of time because he died without doing anything relevant. I still hate Thor more BTW.

>>159092999
to keep him from doing whatever he wanted, he literally became invincible after his fight with Ichigo

Kurotsuchi created the chair and seals from the same stuff they use in Mugen to seal away spiritual pressure, thus limiting his spiritual pressure low enough for Aizen to remain under control

>>159093991
I know that, but he got free from the chair in the final fight, and after yhwach death Ichigo was powerless and every captain was dead or rekt, so I don't understand why Aizen decided to just sit again in the chair and don't just escaped.

>>159080532
Isn't 4 spelled like death in Japan and considered a very unlucky number

Symbolism and shit, idk

>>159094133
again, Kurotsuchi controlled how much spiritual pressure Aizen released; he just turned up the control afterwards and was able to re-seal Aizen in Mugen

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>>159094255
so Kurotsuchi can control Aizen even when the chair its destroyed, also IIRC Kurotsuchi was actually the only captain who never got rekt in the whole arc and was in good shape at the end of the fight, so I think it makes sense.

>>159092999
He got his heart broken, because Ichigo and Orihime chose eachother, and not him.

>>159094433
it wasn't the chair that controlled his spiritual pressure, it was the seals that were placed on him once he had sat on the chair; if I'm not mistaken, it was mentioned in one of the novels that Urahara also helped with Aizen's new seals after the battle with Ywach

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>Wandenreich were so fucking forgettable

>>159095086
>if I'm not mistaken, it was mentioned in one of the novels that Urahara also helped with Aizen's new seals after the battle with Ywach
I haven't read any of the novels, but I'm glad Urahara its confirmed to be alive.

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>>159095162
Kubo should've just axed the story and continue to release artbooks upon artbooks of bleach casual wear.

>tfw we never saw Hell and demons properly

>>159095270
>tfw we never saw Aizen Bankai

>>159095296
he probably couldn't think of it's abilities. the shikai was already broken as hell.

>>159080532
Its literally canon that Aizen just numbered them however he felt like
Barragan is number 2 to make him butthurt and keep him off his high horse, Ulquiorra is probably 4 because he wasn't in the top 3 Aizen wanted to take with to Karakura since he wanted him to fight Ichigo instead, also because he was pretending not to know about Segunda Etapa
That one faggot Arrancar was promoted from not an espada all the way to 6 just to fuck with Grimmjow
Yammy was probably zero as a joke, Aizen and Gin probably had a giggle behind his back

>>159095414
But anon, what about Aaaaroniero arururu?
Did he deserve his 9th spot?

>>159095214
I think the only ones that died from the Gotei 13 were Yamamoto, Sasakibe (his VC), and Ukitake

those who were zombiefied were said to have been cured by Kurotsuchi too

>tfw Szayelapporo is still dying

>>159092244
>make Running Man joke
>why are you taking this so seriously?!

wut

>>159080532
Hes the strongest espada just like filipinos are the strongest race.

Aizen sama is a miracle of the universe.

>>159080532
>Segunda Etapa introduced
>Only Ulquiorra has it
>Didn't serve any meaningful narrative purpose since Ulquiorra was already pretty much winning the fight when he used it
>Not explained what it is or why he has access to it
>Doesn't make much sense as a powerup since Resurreccion is supposed to be a reversion to their hollow form, and some Arrancar like Barragan for example clearly revert fully to their original Hollow form when using it, so its not like its necessarily an incomplete transformation
>Years later
>Grimmjow hyped up to be returning but doesn't show up on-panel
>Several years after Kubo starts hyping him he finally actually shows up
>Is only helping the shinigami so he can fight Ichigo again apparently
>Only comes back for the very definitely final battle
>Oh shit, its time, we're gonna get a Grimmjow Segunda Etapa, and a bunch of exposition on Arrancar, Resurreccion, what Grimmjow has been up to, etc
>Lolnope, Grimmjow jobs offscreen, then shows up to deal a finishing blow even though pretty much any other character could've done it, and then disappears forever
Why, Kubo. This is just one of the like 20 plot points that you really seemed like you were building up to in the last arc that all just faded into nothing.
You could remove Segunda Etapa from the Ulquiorra fight and Grimmjow from the final arc entirely with virtually no effort or editing and it wouldn't seem like anything was missing whatsoever.
The final arc was the biggest pileup of missed potential I've ever seen in a manga.

>>159095787
my theory on Segunda Etapa is that he made the design later but he already delivered Murcielago, so he shoehorned it with that

>>159095377
But like Kyouka Suigetsu is so obviously overpowered that Kubo ought to have realized that and made its ability Aizen's Bankai in the first place.
>>159095498
Rukia only beat him because he was fucking stupid
His power was pretty dang good actually, that's probably why he was among the Espada more than anything else. Imagine if Aizen brought him to Karakura and had him absorb all the Espada after they died, he'd have a retarded amount of reiatsu and be stacked with OP abilities

>>159080532
That the ranking was meaningless bullshit.

>>159095867
Knowing Kubo this actually makes a lot of sense, I'm also gonna assume this was pretty much the case. Designing cool things and then fitting them into the story rather than vice versa really does seem like his MO with Bleach.

Reminder that these were the most powerful characters:

1. M
2. X
3. Yhwach
4. C
5. Zaraki

>>159094433
Could Giorno beat Yhwach with Almighty activated?

>>159096124
Wrong, and I hope those aren't supposed to be in order.
Real top 5:
1. Yhwach
2. Rape Monk
3. M
4. Aizen
5. X

>>159096252
I'll be honest, I completely forgot rape monk existed. Yes, that is in order though.
1. M
2. X
3. Yhwach
4. Rape Monk
5. C
6. Zaraki
7. Aizen
8. V

>>159093965
>I still hate Thor more BTW.

Gerard Valkyrie was fun while he lasted. I just wanted more back story on him and Pernida and why they jumped to Yhwach side leaving behind the Soul King. Would of been interesting, but nope, Kubo.

>>159096252
>>159096281
If Yhwach is capable of using the powers he can bestow on people (never shown), he is stronger than X, but M is clearly stronger either way since what made him ridiculous had nothing do with the power Yhwach gave him

M and X were both passively immortal, Yhwach actually had to do shit to essentially be immortal

>>159096476
>M is clearly stronger either way since what made him ridiculous had nothing do with the power Yhwach gave him
It all came from his Schrift which Yhwach gave him. What are you getting at?
Plus didn't he explain his ability to come back stronger as being due to the fear in his opponents? If he was going 1v1 against someone who wasn't remotely afraid of him it might very well just not work.

>>159081134

Starkk absolutely could have killed Barrigan with long distance Cero barrages. Los Lobos would have been worthless against him, but not Starkk's other moves. Don't doubt the Primera, son.

>>159096854
nope, Barrigan would have just accelerated time and decomposed the Cero

>>159096252
>>159096281
Why exactly did Ichibei lose to Yhwach anyway?
Why did his zanpakuto take all his powers away except for his Schrift?
Isn't it sorta weird that he even had a Schrift when like the whole idea of a Schrift is a power he gives to someone?
"The Almighty" is a named power, so why couldn't he erase it?
Or was the situation more like when Yhwach revived himself against Aizen/Ichigo/Renji? That didn't make sense to me either though. If you're dead/powerless, then how can you use your power to change that? It would make perfect sense if he preemptively used his power to make such a thing never even happen, but he didn't, he did it after the fact.

>>159084729
>>159088468

Ulq's weird, borderline disturbing relationship with Orihime and the violent and dangerous nature of his relationship with Grimmjow also added a ton to their respective parts in the Mexico arc IMO. If that story had been better written it absolutely had the potential to surpass Soul Society rather than just leave everyone disappointed.

>>159096942
And then it would just turn into a reiatsu battle, lol.
Can Barragan keep up using his Respira as long as Starrk can keep up his cero barrage?
It would be the most boring fight, just Starrk shooting at Barragan until someone gets tired and dies

>>159095787
I figured the Segunda Etapa was essentially Arrancar Bankai.

>>159080532

It's called "writing yourself into a corner", followed by the only possible solution, retconning everything.

>>159096942

Don't you remember that Superior Spirit Pressure and negate abilities like Respira? Aizen did it with Soi Fon's bee sting, full power Starrk might have been able to do it to Barrigan considering his fused form was so strong it killed literally everything around him with sheer spirit pressure. Stark only died to a bullshit sneak attack allowing actual metal to be put through his chest.

>>159097326
>Aizen did it with Soi Fon's bee sting

It wasn't even Aizen.

>>159081336
Read Kenpachi vs Kenpachi, kthxbye. -Kubo

>>159097402

OR WAS IT

Nah it wasn't.

OR WAS IT?!

Aizen was truly the greatest.

>>159082047
Bankai is also supposedly very rare, and that the gap of power between lieutenant and captain is huge.

Cue: Ikkaku, Sasakibe, Renji, Rukia (record speed from unseated-to-captain?), and presumably Iba & Isane

>>159097054
I really wish Orihime had tried to even shed some light on the complicated feelings she seemed to have for Ulquiorra after the fact. It was just dropped and never mentioned again, or thought of at all despite such a poignant moment before Ulquiorra faded away.

>>159097578

I mean, people who have any spiritual powers are a huge minority in Soul Society, and the Soul Reaper's entire standing army is only about 3500 soldiers if you include the Stealth Force and Kido Corps. We see, what, a total of 30ish characters with Bankai over the course of the entire story including past history? I'd say that qualifies as rare.

Also there is still a big power gap between Lts. and Captains. Only a few of them have discovered their Bankai after the time skip. Rangiku and Momo and several other characters have no indication of having learned theirs by the end, including several Vizards.

>>159097709
>the complicated feelings she seemed to have for Ulquiorra
No.

>>159083507
Plasma de relampago.

>>159097054
>>159097709

I remember moving Grimmjow up quite a few slots on my mental coolness list when Ulq tried to get between him and Ichigo and he showed not even a hint of hesitation and asked Ulq if the thought of fighting him made him terrified because a battle between the two of them could literally tear Los Noches to the ground. Grimmjow's sheer bravado made me believe he would not only fight Ulq then and there, but could kill him if he did, despite all story-logic making it obvious he was far lower level. It gave me that feeling I often had in Soul Society that my expectations were never safe and any chaotic thing might happen to throw things off the rails.

>>159097578
>Iba and Isane
It surprised me to see these two become captains before Hisagi did who we know has a Bankai.
I guess they're both pretty senior lieutenants so it's not outlandish for them to have Bankai but it still makes me wonder if maybe they changed up the captain requirements due to all the casualties and they don't actually have Bankai.

>>159098052

They didn't change the requirements when the Vizard incident cost them 5 captains and a ton of lieutenants overnight.

>>159097995
Grimmjow would never stand a chance against Ulquiorra if the latter were serious. Not only is Grimmjow a hothead and liable to make a stupid move, but Ulquiorra's Segunda Etapa would overpower him easily.

>>159098079
True. I hope Narita's novel sheds some light on this. Maybe Hisagi doesn't want to be a captain.
Also I forgot about how Lisa is also a captain now.
You'd think if she had Bankai during the Aizen arc she would've used it against Halibel, but then again you could say the same thing about Love, Rose, and Shinji.
Her attaining it during the timeskip between arcs or between the ending and the epilogue would be pretty strange too, considering she'd have been training her hardest preparing for the confrontation with Aizen.
Its especially weird since Love was a former captain and would probably be considered first.
Kubo really went out of his way to keep all of the promotions within their own division even though this isn't some sort of SS rule or anything.

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>>159093281
>Bleach first popularity poll was at the middle of the Soul Society arc
That is incorrect. Bleach first poll was at chapter 51 (pic is the first Bleach poll)

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For the ones that still dont understand how it went. Like, 95% of readers.

>>159098166


You say that, but when Grimmjow threatens him Ulq doesn't respond with taunts or his typical careful explanations of just how far beyond the other guy he is and how inevitable the opponents death and humiliation is. Compare how Ulq acts with Ichigo and his stoic silence at Grimmjow's threat to fight him seems pretty significant.

Anyway, I wasn't saying I thought Grimmjow could win, I was saying his bravado in that scene conveyed the sense that he thought he could without any hint that he was bluffing or acting irrationally, and it left a big impression. It was an intense moment.

>>159098174
Or Yama's vice captain.

>>159098174

>Her attaining it during the timeskip between arcs or between the ending and the epilogue would be pretty strange too, considering she'd have been training her hardest preparing for the confrontation with Aizen.

I was under the impression that the Vizards weren't actually sure if they were going to help or not when the battle with Aizen came. They were all pretty bitter and I remember a couple of pages with group poignant silences with topics related to Aizen or Soul Society came up. Its possible she wasn't preparing for that battle at all.

Then again, she's the only one who went and talked to a former Gotei 13 associate when the group joined the battle, implying she was the least bitter, or at least that her bond with Kyoraku was stronger than that bitterness, so if anybody out of the group would have been training for the battle it was her.

i hope kubos tendons deteriorate

>>159098396

So, like, did Kisuke know about all this shit? How could he have possibly known that Ichigo was capable of creating a a Zanpakuto out of nothing without an Asauchi if Ichigo was some bizarre new life form?

Also, why was Shiro playing nice with Old Man Zangetsu all those times if he was YUHA BACH reducing Ichigo's power and thus endangering Shiro, who was shown to have a very strong drive to survive in all his appearances?

>>159080532
4 is the number most closely associated with death in Japan

>>159097004
Kubo was high with meth when he did the arc, don't question anything.

>>159092952
I miss the glasses.

>>159097004
Becasue

O

>>159091007

zombie powder WAS good.

>>159095254

this

>>159098820
>did Kisuke know about all this shit?
He was up to date with the events so I would say its safe to assume he did know what was going on and the possible outcomes. Besides when its time to science and experiments, he can out-keikaku Aizen.
Zangetsu is not Yhwach. Zangetsu is, literally, the Quincy blood in Ichigo, which takes the form of a young Yhwach to manifest. Also Isshin was sealing most of the clusterfuck of reiatsu inside Ichigo (including Hichigo/Shiro), at least til Hichigo broke free. Then, as you said, it was a battle to see who would be top or bottom.

>>159097709
>I really wish Orihime had tried to even shed some light on the complicated feelings she seemed to have for Ulquiorra after the fact.
She pitied him.

>>159098396

Wait, does this mean that everything that happened in the inner world to learn Final Getsuga was a lie? Old Man As Young Man said he was Tensa Zangetsu, but was the version of Hollow Ichigo that had the form that beat Ulq the ACTUAL Tensa Zangetsu? And what them fusing into a new being represent? And what are Zanpakuto Spirits generally then? Are they also inner hollows? And how does all this compute with normal Vizards and Arrancars who aren't Ichigo The Mutant?

This mythos is weird.

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>>159092488
That's just a recolored version of Kuukaku's shark and Kuukaku's swimsuit.

>>159080532
The Espada ranks are by how much spiritual pressure they have, not how strong they are.

>>159097004

The reason why Yhwach did not lose the Almighty was because for two reasons. The first one was because Yhwach did not have the Almighty yet, so Ichibee couldn't take it away. When Yhwach activated the Almighty, Yhwach was unable to steal it away because of it's own protection abilities. Every ability Yhwach sees cannot harm him anymore. So basically if Yhwach had started the fight with the Almighty, he would have lost.

Yhwach was able to use the Almighty after Ichigo killed him, because he was god. The Soul King was implied to be a corpse and still able to see the future and he was able to attack the Shinigami after his seals were removed. Yhwach was able to do the same until Kazui did something. It's also stated that Yhwach has an influence over Soul Society because he is the Soul King and that he may be not gone for good.

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>>159093788
>that perfect scene
>just kidding! Byakuya's not dead guys
Fuck fangirls, he deserves to be reunited with his waifu

>>159099246

Remember when for a brief, glorious moment we thought Kubo, or more likely his editors, actually had the massive balls to kill Byakuya and Toushiro right out of the gate of the final arc to show just how serious fucking business this was?

That was a good moment.

>>159081390
Literally killed off screen.

>>159095086
Yes, it was mentioned.
>“I wanted to talk to Kurosaki Ichigo a little more. Urahara Kisuke is attentive to small details though isn’t he?”
>Ichigo is currently staying at the residence of Kukaku Shiba in Rukongai with his father Kurosaki Isshin as well as Inoue Orihime and the others.
>If one considers his war potential, Ichigo probably should’ve been at the scene to seal Aizen, however it was a precautionary measure taken against Aizen who could somehow influence the likes of the hollow inside Ichigo.
>“Since Ichigo-kun is originally an outsider huh? Besides, if you have something to tell him, he’s already finished with you, don’t you think?”
>Speaking as if he was dodging the subject, Kyōraku adjusted his conical hat, he looked down at Aizen with his intact left eye.
>Although the seals have become even more powerful than before thanks to Urahara Kisuke, he was still not going to let his guard down.
>Kurotsuchi Mayuri who had just come out of his lifesaving device had tried to create new physical restraints himself but there was no time to wait around for that, “You trust the likes of Urahara Kisuke’s countermeasures right?” he said.

>>159099111
It wasnt a lie, the confusing thing here is that there are basically two Zangetsus, and I dont mean old man zangetsu/tensa zangetsu.
Zanpakutos=blank hollows created to be used as swords.
Ichigo's sword=a real hollow (Shiro)
Shiro=Zangetsu
Thats cool and all but that would also mean that Ichigo's Zanpakuto manifestation would be a fucking hollow and quite literally would attempt to cannibalize its own user (I use that term because Shiro and Ichigo always were one, think of it as a split personality case). So Zangetsu itself never manifests, EVER. But Yhwach (Ichigo's quincy blood) does manifest, and tricks Ichigo into thinking he is Zangetsu, Ichigo calls him Old Man Zangetsu. The part during the FGT, where OMZ and Hichigo combine into Young Man Zangetsu, it did happen, because in the end everything IS Ichigo. True Zangetsu was supposed to be the dual wielding but we never got to see its manifestation I think. Vasto Lorde Ichigo during Ulquiorra's fight was an after effect of Ichigo dying, his heart was gone and so was Yhwach, leaving Shiro in complete control of both hollow and shinigami powers in a body that could withstand both thanks to the quincy blood.
Vizards basically are shinigamis who take the blank hollow out of their sword and transform it into an actual hollow, they need to tame it in order to use its powers and mask. Just as Shiro, it tries to kill its user, but we never got to see a peek inside any of the Vizards head.

>>159098754
Step on a lego

Bleach was interesting. I wonder why people didn't like it and why it was axed.

>>159098976
I wanted to see him without his glasses and with his hair down.

>>159099517
Because it was full of asspulls. Because it left more plot threads hanging in limbo than there are stones on Everest.

>>159096650
>Plus didn't he explain his ability to come back stronger as being due to the fear in his opponents?
That's F

>>159099517
It didn't get axed. Kubo had to rush it because of his failing health. He is now working with Narita to solve as many plot points as possible.
>>159099602
Yeah, everything about that is wrong.

>>159099517
Starting with the royal guard getting completely dumpstered, the power levels went from stupid to retarded.

>>159099660
>his failing health
Seriously? Source?

>>159099517
>I wonder why people didn't like it and why it was axed.
The final arc started on chapter 480 and he still managed to miss some things and leave an unsatisfying final battle.
>m-muh quincy alphabet

>>159099428

What about Zanpakuto Spirits? They can't just be the blank hollow evolving a personality through the process of becoming a Zanpakuto from an Asauchi right? Surely the Vizards would have mentioned it at some point or recognized what was happening to them during the transformation if they were becoming like their sword spirits, they were all Lts and Captains, they would have all met their Spirits to learn their Shikai/Bankai. Also if becoming a Vizard is based on some interacting with your Zanpakuto, how can they still have their swords/releases after the transformation? Is the power split, or duplicated or something?

Are Arrancar related to this mess in any way at all? The new meta seems to be "All powers are Hollow powers basically, its just how they get manifested that changes them. Except Quincies."

...for that matter, are Flash Steps and Kido and Shunko and other shinigami powers also from manifesting hollow powers in a controlled way with the sword? Are they just mutant abilities for manipulating spiritons like qunicy powers?

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>>159099517
My guess is that it was the editors/producers fault. The Quincy invasion was quite the wild ride with shinigamis dropping like flies everywhere, top shit. And after that everything goes to shit, that was, I think, the moment people tried to order Kubo what to do.
>Whats this Royal Guard thing, Kubo-sensei? make them lose so the baddies look powerful, it wont retcon anything
>No no Kuso-sensei, you need to pay attention to these other characters, drop the current battle
>Kubo-sensei please, bring these characters back to life, they are popular
>This Soulg King plot is complicated, just delete it, fans wont notice
>Uh-oh, for some strange reason people dislike my I mean, our work, please drop the current fight and concentrate on Hitsugaya
>Make the MC lose the battle after his final power up, its super interesting that way
>Why did this character battle offscreen? What? I told you to? Yaa gomen gomen, its okay, no biggie
And so on. Seriously, from a fan point of view, you can notice in the manga that at some point everything Kubo prepared went the opposite direction for no apparent reason.

>>159099804
I think Kubo is just a shit writer. The first two arcs were a fluke.

>>159099804
Or maybe Kubo is just a hack.
We'll never know

>>159099415
>“I wanted to talk to Kurosaki Ichigo a little more. Urahara Kisuke is attentive to small details though isn’t he?”
FUCK YOU URAHARA I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU

>>159099797
Everything I told you, and the stuff in >>159098396 is confirmed. More than that is just assumption, or was left unresolved. To my understanding Asauchi=Zanpakuto spirit. But about what happens to said spirit if the user becomes a Vizard, we dont know, the only example we saw was Ichigo, and he was a special case. We know that Zanpakutos develop a spirit over time and that being a Vizard means awakening the hollow inside your sword, and that the whole deal of hollowfication is a inner fight a la Hichigo vs Ichigo. That was left unresolved, I can only think of 2 scenarios, either they stay as separate entities and the Vizard learns to control the hollow with training (we saw them training to maintain their masks up as much as possible) or they merge like Hichigo and OMZ did.

I dont think Arrancars are related to this whole fuckery. I mean, Quincies and Shinigamis both fucked with science and shit to get powerful, with Hollows its a natural development, evolution.

About the shinigami powers, I dont think I have read about their origins or what they are. But I do remember that the war between races was already there way before Zanpakutos were a thing, perhaps they are native offensive/defensive shinigami powers before the Royal Guard nigger decided to start his hollow farm.

>>159098079
>>159098174
After the defection of Aizen's trio, Renji came to persuade Ikkaku into taking a captain position as though the Gotei is in a rush to fill in vacant positions and always on a lookout for anyone with bankai. But then we learned that Sasakibe is allowed to refuse captaincy for hundreds of years, Love didn't return to being a captain simply because he couldn't give up Jump (he also isn't made to accept a part-time job in exchange for te refusal like Yoruichi), Ukitake's position is left vacant for 10 years even though Rukia has bankai.

When it comes to Soul Society rules and mechanics, Kubo is simply never consistent.

Is there a good summary of the information from the novels somewhere?

Do you not know of Kubo's fetish of dismemberment? Even then, his regen lets him use that eye-technique which essentially lets him act as a recording device, and who knows what else.

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>>159100149
>Ikkaku
Man, it fucking hurts to remember him. One of my favorite characters with a sick bankai. And it gets fucking broken with no repair available. God fucking dammit.

>>159100388
>>159089607
Ah Christ

>>159099678
Several comments he made in the Jump comments, his tweet about that little boy and his interview with the author of AssClass. He even had to server a tendon because his arm got damaged so much while working.

>>159099517
>Bleach was interesting
It stopped being interesting halfway through the Ulquoirra fight

>>159099836
>>159099857
Everything about Kubo's writing issues can be explained by these quotes:

>SJ: Which comes first, the story or the art?
>TK: Of course, it’s either the pictures, or the characters – sometimes I have ideas for the characters’ appearances, or sometimes their personality. Once you get those characters set, then the story kind of moves on by itself.

>Q: What comes first? The characters, or the story's plot?
>Tite Kubo: (emphatically) Characters first!

>>159097326

Starrk died because he lost his will to fight.

>>159100177
There's the full translation of all chapters out so far.

Unless you're just too lazy to read the whole thing, in which case I don't think there's any cliffnotes version of it.

>>159097995
Actually, Grimmjow thought a fight between him and Ulquiorra would at the least result in a mutual kill (how wrong he was)

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>>159080532
4 has negative superstition around it in japan because it's so similar to DEATH.

Deepest lore.

>>159081787
You're thinking of the anime.

In the manga, the Menos always required something extraordinary to defeat. Like the protag, or the Visoreds.

>>159082047
Name ONE VL that was defeated one-on-one.

Ichigo doesn't count for obvious reasons.

>>159100982
Ulquiorra, and where the fuck did the idea that Ichigo was a Vasto Lorde in his hollow form come from?

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>>159080532
>>159100865
Actually this.

>>159101014
I meant that Ichigo defeating Ulquiorra doesn't count because he's way over captain level, he's the protag, and it was a hollow victory for him

>>159101052
Couldn't you apply that kind of logic to a lot of the other fights as well, since all of the people involved in VL fights were pretty special themselves?

But regardless, how about Hachigen vs Barragan, since he's really the only reason why they won, and no-one else really contributed majorly besides being punching bags. Did the others protect him in any special regard that would make it impossible for him to solo Barragan?

>>159095296
>>159095377
Maybe Aizen never even bothered to learn Bankai

>>159101299
They gave him time and insight to come up with that plan. Barragan also blabbered valuable intel during that time.

If they had started one on one, Barragan's miasma could've killed Hachigen on the first try.

>>159095787
>Doesn't make much sense as a powerup since Resurreccion is supposed to be a reversion to their hollow form
I always thought it was essentially hollows bankai. Shame Kubo forgot all about it and never made more Arrancar that achieved Segunda Etapa.

>>159095414
What about Starrk though?
Also, Nnoitra, Szayel and the black guy were ranked pretty accurately given their power

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>>159101434
>expect Nel or Grimmjow to pull it off during the final arc
>they never do

Were any hollows aside from Harribel actually canonically confirmed to be Vasto Lorde?

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>>159092454
Here's the version without that woman's head.

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>>159092488
And this.

Reminder: Klab wants your money, bruh.

>tfw no bleach game to mess around with anons in

>>159090899
When Kubo runs out of money

>>159101535
Grimmjow partialy released his black clawed hands, which he only has in Resureccion, vs Askin. I think he might have an upgrade.

>>159101818
>strawberries on (the) top
nice touch

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Will they ever continue the anime? Or is there too much shonen shit on the market that they can't compete?

>>159089373
No,both were his zanpakuto spirits.If Ichigo himself can't find a balance between the 2,one of them always end up taking over as the main one.

>>159101775
No Orihime?

>>159091730
esdrújulas mofo

>>159092401
>Never used his Bankai
>Even against Bach

>>159081511
but it was 2vs1, it wasn't a fair fight

>>159092401
He deserved better.

>>159093965
I can understand that if he didn't give us that backstory. Also his entire flashback is the reason why Juha Bach died because Haschwalth realized he was wrong.

>>159099602
Every series has asspulls, my dude even your favorites. Do you want me to give you some examples?

>>159101905
Try Brave Souls, it's alot of fun.

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I love Ulquiorra

>>159106117
Did you really want the Orochimaru ending with him going to Ichigo's wedding and shit? It would've been much better but come on now.

>>159106715
Hey, if Aizen didn't kidnap Orihime, the bond between Ichigo and her wouldn't be as strong as it is now. He DESERVED to be at that wedding for being Ichigo's hidden wingman.

>>159101535
At least Grimmjow killed two sternritters and Nel saved everyone in the Posion Dome. Now compare that to Naruto's last arc.

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>>159103613
Is Ichigo too dense to get that he is being warmly invited?

>>159106839
Yeah and if Orochimaru didn't take Sasuke away, made him a missing-nin, and basically have the whole government killed Nardo wouldn't have loved Sasuke AND Hinata so much. Well at least Aizen was a war hero.

>>159106845
>Now compare that to Naruto's last arc.
What's the comparison?

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>>159104341
She is only a 3-star unit, unfortunately.

>>159093886
Not even Kubo understands what happened during Wristwatch's fight.

>Yammy releases
>his tattoo goes from 10 to 0
>Ulquioarra releases 2nd etapa
>his tattoo disappears
What did he mean by this?

>>159107063
There was only three characters and a couple of hokages that did anything relevant. Everyone else was just fucking fodder or only won because the enemies were 'wrong along' or some shit.

>>159107171
He lost his Espada status because he hid his Segunda Etapa from Aizen

>>159106845
Actually it's unknown if he killed Askin. Nel sensed his Reiatsu and was going to save him. Even in the novels it's unknown. When Liltotto asked if Askin really died, Haschwalth's aide refused to answer.

>>159081787
I mean yeah
it would require like a platoon of normal shinigami
captains and shit are just way way above etc

>>159106839
He wanted Ichigo for himself.

>>159100426
ikakku
>sick bankai
nigga what
I liked him too but what the fuck

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>>159106576
1) It's shit
2) The multiplayer is shit
3) I lost my tablet after I misplaced it on the top of my car

>>159098174
>Maybe Hisagi doesn't want to be a captain.
It already was addressed in the first chapter that he isn't suited for the job. That he's the perfect vice-captain in both the good and bad ways. i.e. dude is too busy hero worshipping Kensei, and misunderstanding Tousen's philosophy to be an effective leader, and besides you know if Kensei ever does die even if he gets the captain promotion Mashiro would just beat him up and take the position for herself.

>>159095787
>Didn't serve any meaningful narrative purpose since Ulquiorra was already pretty much winning the fight when he used it
It served the purpose of showing that Ulquiorra was gradually losing his shit, getting increasingly frustrated and human as the fight went on.

>>159080532
Considering that Aizen set-up for Ichigo to fight Ulq, i'm pretty sure he knew about SE.
Besides the powergap between 1st an 2nd and 3rd is so fucking huge that if you factored in SE he'd only be 3rd at best.

What is Tokinada's endgame?

>>159108926
>Tokinada's endgame
To be the supreme edgelord. Seriously it astounds me that Narita spent the first chapter going an "Aizen did nothing wrong" only to introduce his antagonist as somebody whose only character trait is 'evil sadist'. Also if the big controlling factor in SS is actually the four noble clans than why don't Byakuya or Yoruichi/Yuushiro have to answer for anything?

>>159109158
Yoruichi doesn't give a shit and Byakuya probably doesn't know yet. It's said that his grandfather is still alive, so he most likely knows all that stuff.

Tokinada is so sadistic because Narita really wanted to get justice for Kakyou's murder and he's going to mild that out for all it's worth. But there is probably going to be more depth too him. See what he did with Szayel's clone. Tokinada acknowledges that his wife was a very good person and he probably wants a new Soul King for a reason.

>>159109158
Because there are no good or bad guys in Bleach, only special-interests groups.

Ichigo is no different. He fought SS when one of his friends was endangered, but couldn't care less when SS kills people that aren't his friends.

>>159109445
He was also pretty hostile to the shinigami when he went to take Ginjo's body back.

>>159109445
Exactly. Ichigo never gave a shit about SS and how it ran things after he rescued Rukia.

>>159109417
Where was it said that his grandfather is alive?

>>159109445
>Because there are no good or bad guys in Bleach, only special-interests groups.
That's kind of what I was trying to say, but it may not have come across. What made me really get into Bleach was that most characters ascribed to their own particular set of codes that often differed from those on the same side. My point was that unlike other sadists like Gin, or Mayuri, we have yet to see if Tokinada has anything more to him than just the sadism. It's very disappointing after opening the novel with a decent defense of Aizen's beliefs.

Is Bleach an isekai?

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>>159109445
>He fought SS when one of his friends was endangered, but couldn't care less when SS kills people that aren't his friends.
He is consistent in that he'll fight to protect whoever he wants, without answering to anyone or any ideal.

>>159109783
>most characters ascribed to their own particular set of codes
Except that most of the characters are hypocrites.

>>159109929
No. The "good guys" in Bleach still believe in good and evil despite there being zero difference between them and their opponents.

>>159109929
>>159109587
>>159109641
Also the one time he was given a direct order from Yamamoto he ignored it. It astounds me to know there are people that believed his 'destiny' was to become a captain for an organization he's relatively indifferent to with exception to the few members he consider friends.

>>159109774
Second databook, I think. At the very least he is on extended leave.

>>159109993
>Except that most of the characters are hypocrites
do you have any examples? I mean I'll admit moralfags like Hisagi are blatantly wrong with their beliefs but it's more just misplaced pride with him than anything else.

>>159109993
>No. The "good guys" in Bleach still believe in good and evil despite there being zero difference between them and their opponents.

Give me one example where the Shinigami ever claimed to be "the good guys".

>>159110117
That one jobber RG cunt calling Aizen "pure evil" or something like that. Nobody contests what she said and it's interpreted as in-universe fact.

Calling Aizen and his company "traitors" is far-fetched as well. It's not really convincing if you, after supporting a genocidal regime, get angry from a "betrayal".

Rukia also marketed SS and Shinigami as some noble warriors who must dedicate themselves to save all souls. What a load of bollocks that was.

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Reminder
>he came the closest to killing Aizen but was upended but something nobody foresaw
>let Ichigo live giving him the chance to be strong enough to beat Aizen
>according to Rangiku he died trying to be a hero
>Kira said that he was actually very kind
>despite this he still wasn't allowed to be buried in the Seireitei
and all because he decided to prank Rukia.

>>159110303
She said that if Aizen was an evil man (which he objectively was) than Yhwach is even worse (also true); she never said that the RG was an objective good or even anything close.

>>159110365
I still don't get why he went to bully Rukia. Did Kubo just want to falseflag him as a villain with that? Either way, kind or not, he definitely has sadistic streaks.

>>159110451
>objectively evil
There was no difference in any of the three parties. Each one was ready to kill tens of thousands if it would serve their goals. The goal of SS is Nobles ruling over dispensable rabble. Aizen's goal was a mystery, but at least there was a chance of improvement for the common folk (save the population of Karakura).

I can't remember what exactly Yhwach's goal was, but even total annihilation of all life could be an improvement for more people than it would be a detriment to.

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>>159110544
>Did Kubo just want to falseflag him as a villain with that
Yes. That was basically Gin's role for the SS arc. Aizen was murdered and Kubo wanted the real killer to be the least likely candidate so he had someone walking around being a red herring by being so obviously twisted. To better reinforce what he meant by 'least likely' suspect early plans were for Aizen to be truly dead and that Hanataro was the traitor.

>>159110686
>There was no difference in any of the three parties.

Again, name one thing that the RG did that was objectively evil.

>>159110051
I really don't remember any suggestion that Ginrei is still alive in databooks, beyond an absence of any mentions of his being dead.

>>159110787
The part about Aizen was never stated.

>>159110880
Supporting a regime that only serves a select few that contribute virtually nothing but reap all the benefits while suppressing and killing everyone who has any objections about it.

do you even NAP

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>>159081134
>Aizen put him 2nd just make him mad
That does sound like something Aizen would do

>>159110544
>>159110787
Kubo said he didn't fully decide on whether Gin would be a good guy or an outright villain throughout hid character. He let the flow of the story give him the answer. Gin could have very well been evil if Kubo written things differently.

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>>159110965
"a poster of all the captains. Ukitake, who hadn't made an appearance yet, has his back turned, and Aizen, who is about to die, has his eyes closed."
-Kubo in the artbook
I don't recall where the interview was but he had said that he didn't decide on who killed Aizen until afterward but that he wanted the perpetrator to be the least likely suspect and ultimately came to the conclusion that the victim themselves was the least likely. Hanataro at a time had been meant to be a villain but Kubo changed that because he thought that'd be too much of a stretch.

>>159081390
Was that the biggest asspull in manga history?

>>159111183
>hurr the system is flawed
>therefore everyone would be better off with no system whatsoever

t. retard

>>159110544
He made shit up as he went along.

>>159111281
>I'm Arrancar Diez, Yammy

Not even close.

>>159110787
>>159110965
Jump Festa December 2008
>Kubo: "At first I did not plan Aizen to become the shadow behind everything. I just thought he will become the enemy after he was killed" The flow to Kubo’s plan: There was trouble in Seireitei--> that’s it! Lets kill Aizen!--> The most exciting person to make him/her the culprit--> That’s it! Let’s make himself the culprit!
This seems like at the time Kubo wrote Aizen's deat, he is not yet decided to be a villain.

Aizen was the true hero of Bleach. He wanted to fix things.

>>159111268
>>159110787
I don't remember the bit about Hanatarou.

>>159111406
Kubo said it in a fanbook, I think. 13 Blades?

>>159111296
The system is inherently fucked up. Even anarchy would be an improvement. Without the centralization, those with power and goodwill would have no need to concentrate under the parasite nobles, and would better utilize their strength for those they CLAIM to protect.

Just let the nobles be eaten by hollows. Why care so much? Many times more people suffer because manpower cant be spared from protecting the center.

>>159111478
>Even anarchy would be an improvement.

So you'd prefer a permanent state of undeath for all things instead of a natural cycle of life and death? You're not really taking context into consideration.

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>>159096281
Being immortal or having brute strength doesn't mean you're stronger though. M was strong but he wasn't against any people with ridiculous hax so he looked more impressive. No way was he stronger than Yhwach or probably even Ichibe who could both either shut down his powers via ink or Almighty or defeat him in some other way (rename him to an ant/change the future so that he loses).

>>159097004
"The Almighty" isn't a physical thing, Ichibe can only remove the names of things he has physically covered with ink, i.e. Yhwach, his sword. He cannot cover "The Almighty" physically with ink.

>>159095296
Yhwach changed the future so that all Bankai were broken so we never would have seen it without it going the same way as Tensa Zangetsu did the first time.

>>159110095
Komamura fell into revenge after preaching against it.

>>159111620
Actually I'd just prefer a state of death for all conscious beings. I was just arguing from the point of view of the protags of the story that claim all sorts of illogical things, not from my personal self.

Life was a mistake.

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>>159111458
Ah, ok. Found it.
>Popularity Poll Results:
>21st- Hanatarou Yamada
>Kubo says that he actually planned to make Hanatarou a villain in the Soul Society Arc, but because he just wasn’t really the type, Kubo just couldn’t do that development.

I wonder if Kubo's serious or just joking... but if he had gone that route it might have gone down as one of the greatest KUBOOOOOOs

>>159111737
So you're a literal teenager?

>>159111804
>implying life has a positive value
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinatalism

>>159111662
And he recognizes this as hypocritical that's the point. He only ever truly could preach against it because he had never seen the world with the eyes of someone that wanted revenge.

>>159111884
Back to /tv/ with you, Rust

>>159090031
The most ipressive thing about them was how he turned a part of his soul into an attack.
And for someone who was so lonely he devided himself to fight using his onl "companion" as an extensible weapon while constantly fearing it would desapear was an interesting sight.
Especially since he died because he lost his will to fight after Lilinet was gone.

>>159080532
Because they felt like spending 2 fucking seconds on Starrk and Barragan

>>159110880
Ichibe stole 100 nights from SS' future

>>159111374
He did nothing wrong.

>>159108065
You don't actually hate it but you do hate yourself. Start over and play the Inheritance Zone with some friends.

>>159112080
He did nothing right either.

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>>159111660
Who put the black clothes/seals on Aizen? Dis he do this himself?
I envy the ones who were watching him do it.

>>159089607
>>159089790
Did you learn nothing from Isshin vs Grand Fisher?

>>159112231
He exists.

>>159107548
He's a complete monster but he probably defected to the Shinigami side if he survived.

>>159112319
>but he probably defected to the Shinigami side if he survived.

Nah, he was set on seeing the future Yhwach would create.

>>159100716
>muh planned ahead writing

Togashi also writes his manga through instinct, mangaka who plan ahead have shit tier imagination.

>>159110544
I see it that he hates everyone in Soul Society except Rangiku of course. I mean there was little need to do so many fucked up things along the way but Aizen is what he hated most.

>>159112368
He didn't have much choice, with Yhwach gone there will be no new world. Also he came to respect Urahara so much, that he wanted him to survive.

>>159112368
Juha died so he'd probably hang around Urahara since he wants to see the future he would bring this time.

>>159112467
>I mean there was little need to do so many fucked up things along the way
Honestly other than killing the third seat, who may or may not have been one of the guys who fucked with Rangiku, he didn't truly do all too many things.
>inb4 Hiyori
she survived anyway and she doesn't like Soul Society or Shinigami in the first place so the last thing she'd care about it whether or not they consider her feelings.

>>159110544
Remember that he and Tousen were the only Captains that Byukauya said "had a fear of death".

Perhaps he was jealous of how selflessly Rukia chose her own fate, and perhaps it had an impact on him when he would make a similar choice in the future.

>>159112735
>Remember that he and Tousen were the only Captains that Byukauya said "had a fear of death".
It was Gin and Kenpachi and well that obviously went out the wayside considering Gin's final gambit, and Kenpachi's statement to Isane.

>>159112893
Byakuya talking to Gin said "you and the 9th division Captain" so Tousen was directly included, which should surprise no one.

>>159112956
I can't find where that said. Was it an anime only thing?

What's Isane's Shikai?

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>>159113745
this

who has the powerlevel chart

4 means death in Japanese

Why wasn't Barragan the main villain for the Hueco Mundo arc?

>>159117446
Why should he? The only good thing about him was design, and maybe pre-release power. His personality is nothing interesting and while Respira wasn't bad concept itself, it wouldn't make for a good battle (the one we got was the only really possible one).

Aizen wasn't better though, especially toward the end.

>>159095296
>>159095377
Aizens Bankai activated as soon as Ichigo transformed into the Final Getsuga Tensho. Everything afterwards was just Aizen fucking with us.

How did Shinji die?

>>159119545
After releasing his Bankai.

>>159113745
Jobbing.

>>159080532
As much as Ulq' is mah nig,' he isn't the strongest. He just has a second powered up state that Aizen didn't see.

>>159097709
I'm on the same boat. Orihime was continuously mind fucked through the entire Mexico arc; it is a shame that we never got to see her reflecting on what happened.

>>159121304
Why would she want to reflect on her time in HM? It was basically hell; she had to see the man she loved with a hole in his chest, Uryu getting hurt by said person, feel Rukias reiatsu get dimmer while she was held prisoner and was able to do nothing etc.

>>159121458
Plus she was imprisoned and bullied by jealous arrancar bitches.

>>159089070
>Starrkfags

I like Barragan too, but Starrk is like, the second coolest Espada.

>>159121304
What was odd was that Orihime was set up to be a big figure in that arc only for her to barely do anything. At first it appeared that Aizen kidnapped her because he found her power fascinating and useful only for him to not use her at all. Plus, she mentions how she wants to reject the Hogyoku's existence only to not do anything.

>>159081336
Kenpachi only lost because he was suppressed during the whole fight until the very end, in which Ichigo drew power from his hollow to match Kenpachi

>>159121990
>Kenpachi only lost because he was suppressed during the whole fight

Wait, didn't Kenpachi take off his eye patch at some point?

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>the strongest

>>159111364

This really highlights that Kubo has really good native story instincts, because Aizen's turn felt super well-earned when it happened.

>>159122288
Nnoitra is a spoon and his weapon is a fork.

>>159110544

Because he could do it in front of Rukia's guards in order to draw even more attention on himself for being obviously evil. This was Aizen's entire plan.

>the TV station, Pierrot and director want to do the anime
>shueisha doesn't

Fucking why? did kubo piss them off that much.

>>159122288

Is Nel the strongest Hollow ever? She was Espada #3 as a Privaron, ie she became an Arrancar without Aizen's help and thus was supposedly noticeably weaker than the ones that came about by Aizen's efforts. If only Starrk and Barrigan were higher ranked than her, and they WERE Aizen products, doesn't that imply she was natively stronger than them, or at least as strong as them?

>>159111792
that would have been fucking incredible

>>159110365
My favorite character and winner of a gold star in by book for actively lying to the protagonist about his power then using this false assumption to his advantage. I can't think of many other characters in anime who have done this.

>>159122909
Post timeskip it might be possible. She at the very least seems to have no problem handling Grimmjow. Fighting against Harribel could go either way.

>>159089403
>Annoys her every night
>It the only that has the ability to transform into a normal sized form
>Orihime keeps him around when Ichigo isn't in the house

>>159097578
>record speed from unseated-to-captain?
A decade to go from vice to captain is pretty standard.
But byakuya wasn't even seated 100 years ago, and became captain 40 years ago.
I mean, when you consider that rukia became a shinigami around 40 years prior to the story, she's basically on par with byakuya, gin, hitsugaya, and urahara in terms of how quickly she became captain.

>>159089403
Or instead grants his essence to her offensive fairy. Changing his wings into a bat form and turning his secondary color green.

>>159123458
>Annoys her every night

Why? He keeps asking her where the heart is?

>We're never getting another proper bleach game or supplemental
>It'll just be the inevitably terrible live action movie and the shitty mobile gatcha
The world built, even if it did get super retarded at the end, is way too rich to let sit and rot.

>>159123521
This reminds me that of the original 13 captains we met in the SS arc, for one reason or another seven posts had to be refilled within three years. Only six of the original captains managed to keep their position.

>>159123622
We get at least three novels, which is not bad and depending on the result of those and the movie there might be more. Shuheisha seems to have no problem. It really depends on Kubo.

>>159123622

>the shitty mobile gatcha

I don't like Bleach but I do like BBS. It's not the best but I think it's alright.

>>159123666
I'd kill for an animated mini arc of Gin and co screwing around in ghost mexico like they do in BBS. One of the things that keeps me coming back to it.