One Piece

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>Another god.DAMN. Boring,Talking Chapter

Fuck this series
FUCK.
IT.

>>159054595
Jinbe confirmed for escaping alive to join the crew permanently.

Wano leaks, oda is a hack so they're true >>159054483

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>>159054595
So is sanji naturally blonde or is it actually supposed to be yellow to the sibling hair color theme?

>>159054595
Yawn. At least HxH is back.

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>>159054595
>Reiju flinches from BM's attack, but Luffy and Sanji come out from Bege's body and back her up

Monologue about why they should leave and not fight BigMeme.

Fucks all that shit and fights BigMeme.

Oda needs to stop making the parallels with Roger already

>>159054696
Also Caesar. I don't see how they possibly ever get rid of Caesar now.

>>159054696
The escape plan is going to fail and Jinbe will sacrifice himself. Screencap this.

Hope Oda has plans for sanji.Him telling of his dad is cool and all but I want to see him fight.Probably won't tho.

>>159054595
Sounds pretty retarded.

Ceaser doesn't even fly that fast and carrying Capone in the air will just slow him down.

Katakuri can easily snipe Ceaser in the air as well.

>>159054759
The flaming yellow will have his day.

>>159054717
He's naturally blonde.Maybe he'll get black hair and become the black ranger tho.Judge is already the yellow ranger.

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>Literally "Man, I wish Zoro was here" the chapter

>>159054728
Next chapter will be a short flashback of Luffy ordering Jimbe to protect Nami and his crew(LuNa moment) and leave and saying he will help the Vinsmokes stall BigMom and leave with them. Sanji comes as well.

>>159054759
Think he'll get a Raid Suit too?

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>>159054730
And Carrot. Can't add 2 dudes and not add another girl in.

>>159054827
In same chapter after flashback has ended rest of crew decide to leave beges body and back up luffy. Ceaser/Bege/Bege's wife

>>159054811
Black Leg Sanji. If he has a raid suit he should be nicknamed Burning Black.

>>159054853
Maybe, if it looks decent unlike the ones everyone else is wearing(except my baby reiju)

>>159054635
>Waaaahhhh nothing happens the chapter
Go play video games if you don't want story, you underage nigger.

In b4
>hurrr you just suck Oda's cock

>>159054909
That's the problem. There's very little story development this chapter.

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>>159054863
>>159054696
>>159054730
>still thinks someone will join the crew post- timeskip

when will this meme end?

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>>159054818
>>159054868
>black sheep of the family
>black leg

Holy crap everything makes sense now.

>>159054728
She'll hunt them down to Elbaf seeking revenge most likely.
Not going to lie though, I think Oda prematurely blew his load with Big Mom. If they run and deal with her later, all hype for her is gone as far as I'm concerned. She's an interesting antagonist, but I'm already over her. I'm far more excited for Shanks, Blackbeard, and Kaido to a lesser extent.

>>159054982
>all hype for her
If you deal with her now, all Yonkos will be shitty diappointments who you can kill off with three people.

>>159054944
his grudge towards Zoro also makes sense now

and the fact he's fated to fight Kizaru

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WHERE IS MY FRIEND ZORO

>Just got a quick info regarding Hunter x Hunter for you today. The series takes about 2-3 times as long to translate as One Piece (the 2nd longest series in our weekly line-up), but at the same time, for many of us on the team, it's their favorite.

one piece fags on suicide watch.

shouldn't sanji be the one carrying Capone since he flies way faster than Caesar and has a stronger CoO than Katakuri?

Can sanji cook boneless pizza?

Also, a real question. Do Katakuri, Pudding, Jinbei, or Pedro do anything this chapter or is that it?

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>>159054982
Waiting for the truth bomb to come out that she ate mother caramel and the kids.

>>159054982
Not at all. You really think crew will leave behind Luffy and Sanji to their demise(fending of BM). They're gonna fight as well.

>>159055073
They just feel bad for you cause this is gonna be the only

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>>159054935
>arc now switching to evasion
>everything between Judge and Sanji
>plus the Vinsmokes staying behind

It's not that nothing is happening in the story, you're simply too stupid to understand the importance of what is going on. You're the generic shonen retard that only pays attention when people are hitting each other. You probably shouldn't read One Piece if you brush aside something like this.

>>159054935
>Fit all developments possible inside 18 pages, please

If you want a rushed story, just reread the last arc of Bleach, you boondocks nigger.

>>159055088
>truth bomb
maybe she eventually found out the truth and just had Pudding to erase that nasty memory

she really hates to talk about caramel with other people

>>159055118
>>arc now switching to evasion
Nope. Last panel proves that this is gonna be an all out brawl.

>>159055073
The 2ch leaker prefers HxH and always does it first, too.

OPtards are literally shit eaters

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>>159055073
Oh no, three people like Hiatus X Hiatus, whatever will we do?

>>159055118
B-B-B-BUT ANON, YOU JUST SUCK ODA'S COCK YOU FANBOY.

That's the reply you'll get soon enough.

>>159055118
That really isn't that much. And I do prefer story development over pointless fighting, so don't accuse me of that.

>>159055073
Jaminis box will save us

>>159055073
>literal whos
>HxH is slower than OP
damn, really gets to me. I learned something shitty about HxH today and I also saw a HxH fag desperately try to defend his shonen when nobody was talking about HxH in the first place. Traumatizing.

>>159055130
>a rushed story, just reread the last arc of Bleach
What. Do you mean the last like ten chapters, or what? The arc overall was a glacial piece of shit where eight billion irrelevant characters fought it out with nothing of importance resulting.

>hunterxhunter has the better chapter
>again

oh it's bad, real bad.

>>159055153
BUT SALES DON'T MEAN QUALITY YOU OPSHITTERS REEEEEEEE

WE HXH FANS GET 34 VOLUMES WITHIN 19 YEARS OF SERIALIZATION BECAUSE WE ENJOY """QUALITY"""

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Oda, where's my friend Zoro?

Togashi uses his breaks to gives us great chapters.

Oda doesn't do fuck all with his so we get shit boring plot slowing down chapters like this.

>>159055133
That freak out made it pretty clear she still doesn't know...err never knew

>>159055189
Why is that bad? I like both, but HxH has consistently been more interesting (when it's actually published.)

>>159055048
>Zoro's hair color gives Sanji PTSD

OOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

>>159055073
>HxHfags as our spoiler providers
fucking horrible

>>159055182
>Deus Ex arrow out of nowhere
>Gerald and other Sternritters even the ones we don't know what their powers are getting killed off by Yhwach
>No resolution to some characters and plot threads

Shit was rushed as fuck.

>>159054982
Thats dumb because if anything it proves BM is the most dangerous. They have to run from her.
She will be hunting them even after they escape. Big Mom Is basically Godzilla. She is the monster of the world.

>>159054730
What are you talking about?
Ceasar is old news. Gangster Gastino is new Mugiwara.

>>159055179
>HxH is not an easy series to translate by any means. Not only is it extremely text-heavy, but often also worded very ambiguously, with complex grammar and vocabulary; especially so in the current arc where Togashi is throwing one complex scenario into the mix after another, along with dictionary-styled explanations for them all — leaving us feeling like Gon.

Keep reading your kiddyshit, OPtard

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>>159055138
Luffy and Sanji can both fly and it's far more likely that, being the two strongest, they are helping to distract the several dozen BM members to give the others more time to prepare the escape. If anything, your response is at least as unconfirmed as mine. I however, have the benefit of Nami literally saying they will escape and Luffy relaxing enough to listen to her
>>159055164
>entire arc changing direction from assault to retreat
>the Zeff thing that has been hanging over Sanji's head for IRL years is now resolved
>some sort of conclusion to the whole Sanji Vinsmoke mini arc
>Vinsmokes staying behind to protect the SHs after their prior relationship

No, I really can't help but get the impression that you're a generic fight fag that can't understand anything but people hitting each other.

Timeskip was a mistake
Luffy getting more allies was a mistake
Oda will never top Enies Lobby

If you had to give Luffy a different DF, which would you give him and why?

Remember, it's purpose is to keep the fights interesting, so don't just pick a strong one.

>>159055268
>I however, have the benefit of Nami literally saying they will escape and Luffy relaxing enough to listen to her

As cowardly as Nami is, she's not gonna leave behind her captain. Other crewmembers will come out of Bege's body next chapter, and Caesar and Bege will escape.

>>159055265
I will. You can continue to feel obligated to go into other threads and pick fights just to feel secure in reading your own manga, instead of, you know, just discussing your own manga in your own thread.

I'm not even sure how you thought the image of an HxH fag feeling it necessary to defend their manga in threads where nobody gives a shit would somehow not make that anon look pathetic. Why aren't you discussing your manga if it's so good?

>>159055234
So, like I just said, you meant the last like ten chapters.

>>159055203
Yeah man, I'd rather Oda rush out and get to things without further explanation, proper flow, build up, and character depth, but hey, apparently you're not allowed to have an opinion in favor of a One Piece chapter these days because that means you're automatically an Oda cocksucker instead of being reasonable, amirite?

>>159055265
>extremely text heavy
Because Togashi can't draw for shit. He should really just write a novel. All those panels of just text walls.

>>159055203
>>159055073
>>159055199
>my favorite weekly battle shounen is better than yours!
Do you fags never get tired of arguing over which midget is the tallest?

>>159055268
>No, I really can't help but get the impression that you're a generic fight fag that can't understand anything but people hitting each other.
Well, that's your problem. You've been on 4chan too long and view everything in terms of an overly adversarial dichotomy.

>>159055027
She's simply not as interesting as people like Shanks, Blackbeard, Kaido, Akainu, or Dragon after this arc. All imo, so feel free to disagree.

Elbaf is going to be Fishman Island all over again.

What if Sanji's legs were swords and Zoro's swords were legs

>>159054595
If they retreat without beating her, won't the BM pirates just kill Zeff?

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>>159055318
>not going to leave behind her captain
and as I said, Luffy and Sanji could just be stalling while Nami gets shit ready to leave. Why would Luffy and Sanji just stand around doing nothing?

And again, both Luffy and Sanji can fly. You don't seem to understand that the entirety of my post made clear that both Luffy and Sanji can still intend to leave with Nami even if they are currently assisting the Vinsmokes. I'm not sure why you came up with such a shitty reply when the post you're replying to already made clear that Luffy is still gungho on leaving with Nami

>>159055265
Wow, sounds like HxH is even more about boring talking than even this week's OP. And people already complained about this OP chapter being about boring talking like this anon>>159054635, so I guess HxH will be even worse.

>>159055364
A lot of these people lack substance in their lives, so they insist on these pointless little pissing contests.

>>159055383
>And again, both Luffy and Sanji can fly.

You really think its that easy to escape against all of BM's forces? Holding them off by themselves is a suicide mission. The rest of the crew will fight back.

>>159055364
HxH is a yearly battle shonen

>>159055372
Shit taste desu senpai. I disagree.

>>159055330
>>159055364

I'd be happy if something actually happened and we didn't have to wait two weeks for this shit.

All we get is Big Mom punching Capone again and boring shit between Sanji and his dad. Unless the spoiler guy neglected to mention Luffy was in G4 at the end of the chapter it's shit.

At this point of the arc Oda needs to speed things up not slow down.

>>159055270
Gave reason to strengthen the crew
Road to become the pirate king means you're gonna gain allies
He did that 2 arcs before Enies Lobby

>>159055391
HxH has substance and is well written, One Piece only has one dimensional characters and recycled shonen formula plot so people are naturally disappointed when people aren't fighting.

>>159055055
WANO KUNI

>>159055366
>strawhats either fight and stay or stall and leave
>not a dichotomy
come on, not even that guy

>>159055220
>Sanji is Yellow
>Zoro is Green

I won't be surprised if Shanks turned out to be Luffy's uncle and was legit watching over him after his sister's death.

>>159055200
wano kuni

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>>159055366
I explained to you the significance of the events occurring in the chapter. If you disagree with their significance, argue it. I can only assume you agree with me over you being wrong if you refuse to challenge it in any way.

>>159055432
>speed things up
Escaping sounds like speeding things up to me.

You can't just jump straight down to exiting the premise, things need to flow and progress, not rush. Sanji's interaction with Judge is an important character moment.

>>159055451
I'm talking about his view of either he's right or everybody thinks in terms of his strawman, rather than allowing for more options.

>>159055456
What if Shanks is Dragon's wife?

>>159055438
>substance

O

>>159055372
>She's simply not as interesting
Nah, gotta wait for the Elbaf Arc.

>Elbaf is going to be Fishman Island all over again
That one I agree with. Too much hype for a dissappointing arc and only good for the SH beating up Big Mom and Katakuri.

>>159055478
They aren't going to abandon germa 66 to stall for time and die.

>>159055490
but that's irrelevant to the argument they're currently having

>>159055423
Oda should have just left some hints as to her connection to Elbaf and had the giants explain her backstory. Face it, Oda blew his load and revealed too much. They should either beat her, or Oda shouldn't have fleshed her out to the extent that he has this arc.

>>159055415
>you really think it's that easy
Yes. They can all fly. Not sure what your problem is. It says right in the spoilers
>She persuades him that it will be okay to fight once they meet up with Zoro and the others

All they have to do is hold them back until Caesar has flown a sufficient distance away, and than fly into Bege. Easy.

>>159055478
What sounds like a lot of story development to you doesn't sound like a lot to me. That's all there is to it. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy the story and can only enjoy fighting scenes.

>>159055530
the germa have flying boots too

>>159055530
Germa can run across water and are known to be incredibly powerful/durable in their raid suits. At least Judge can fly as well. Don't see them dying.

>>159055537
No, it isn't. You just misunderstood what I meant. If you're not the guy I responded to anyway, then buzz off.

>>159055556
>Yes. They can all fly. Not sure what your problem is. It says right in the spoilers

Really think BM doesn't have the ability to catch them? Or Katakuri or Smoothie. Holding them off is a suicide mission anon.

She literally one shotted Bege. The crew knows that, and will come back to aid their captain and damsel in distress. Remember entire arc was about getting back Sanji, they wont leave him by himself at this point.

>>159055562
>that's just my opinion stop harassing me
if you're going to post shit like
>>159054935
that is clearly trying to make an objective statement. Don't go crying when people argue otherwise.

>>159055391
The problem with One Piece is its terrible world building and hamfisted attempts at tackling social issues without any nuance whatsoever. The world of OP feels artificial, every arc and location has some relation to the strawhats, it's built around them rather than existing as separate beings with their own historical and social context that can fully function without their existence. Also the rich and privileged exploiting the poor done redundantly in the most cringe manner. Let's not forget the shallow one dimensional characters with Sabo being a literal shoehorned replacement for Ace. Terrible twist, it rendered the entirety of post-timeskip meaningless, not to mention the drawn out pacing and cluttering of panels.

HxH is more deconstruction of shonen. No power of friendship or punching harder/yelling louder to win like Luffy, no clear-cut "villains", no clear-cut MC (as it changes depending on the arc), experimental art that goes from detailed and hyper-realistic to cartoony and sketchy (you really have to read the manga for this), every arc is 100% different to the point where they are different genres while One Piece just recycles the same arc.

>>159055502
what if dragon is Luffy's mother?

Dora D. Monkey

>>159055612
>terrible world building

I agree with almost everything you posted except this. Oda is a master of world building and info dumps, those are the best parts of OP.

>>159055594
>Really think BM doesn't have the ability to catch them? Or Katakuri or Smoothie.
No, I don't think they do. They were fighting each other prior to BM screaming. Brook injured BM's soul weapons. I think they are at least fast enough to maneuver away.
>Sanji, they wont leave him by himself at this point.
Again, flying.
>muh Bege
Urouge got away and he didn't have warlords, worst generations, and a assassin team decked out in raid suits. I don't really see an issue if all they are trying to do is run.

>>159055600
I'm not crying about anything. I don't view Sanji telling his dad off and someone getting ready to fight as much of a story development. The fact that everything can be boiled to a few bullet points that you posted suggests little happens. I really view this entire argument as silly and trivial. It seems like it matters more to you than it does to me. I hope we're both satisfied with the full chapter.

>>159054938
either when the series ends. or when somebody else joins.

>>159055641
Wrong. The world of OP feels 100% artifical and made FOR the protagonists to come and save from the evil ruler every time, it's garbage and a few pretty backgrounds don't save it .

>>159055684
>Urouge got away and he didn't have warlords, worst generations, and a assassin team decked out in raid suits
Urouge also wasn't dealing with the strongest BM crew right in front of him.

>>159055612
> and location has some relation to the strawhats, it's built around them rather than existing as separate beings with their own historical and social context that can fully function without their existence
In what sense do any of the arcs show that besides locations that the SHs live in.

Oda hasn't made a good arc since the timeskip, the absolute madman!

>>159055612
>HxH is more deconstruction of shonen.
I prefer HxH but this is just wrong. There is a clear cut MC and power or friendship. It's just that Togashi uses other things differently.

>>159055718
>evil ruler
>Mock Town
>Orange Town
>Syrup Village
>Baratie
>Water 7
>Long Ring Long Land
>Sabody
>Fishman Island
>Zou
>Little Garden
>Loguetown

All of which were just bad guys who happened to drop by. The area itself was in no way ruled by evil and the person there in no way commanded the area. If all that you're complaining about is that the SHs ended up fighting ANY sort of bad guy during the arc, I think you're stretching pretty far.

>>159055684
Urouge never saw Big Mom and got btfo'd by Cracker, anon.

>>159055720
>Urouge also wasn't dealing with the strongest BM crew right in front of him.

You don't know that. We know he had to at least deal with Cracker. No one else on his crew stands out so he likely fought solo.

>actually responding to the HxH falseflagger
O

>>159055837
Nice semantics, you know exactly what I mean. They are all made for Luffy to beat up the bad guy while his crew beats up the lackeys, this is why the series deservedly gets slack for recycling arcs.

>If all that you're complaining about is that the SHs ended up fighting ANY sort of bad guy during the arc, I think you're stretching pretty far
How so? Hunter x Hunter had entire arcs without fights including the protagonists and in Chimera Ant Gon never even meets Meruem. We are comparing them so OP should be held to HxH's standard.

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>>159055687
>I'm sure you care really hard
well I don't so I guess you look stupid now. Like I said, you made a post claiming the chapter was objectively lacking, I argued otherwise, and now each of your posts is trying to distance your self from the responsibility of forming a retort.
>The fact that everything can be boiled to a few bullet points that you posted suggests little happens.
Maybe if you're a retard because >>159055268
already explained the importance of each one and this is from only a single chapter. You never even tried to argue the importance that I attributed to them beyond "yeah well, I don't care".
>I really view this entire argument as silly and trivial.
You're the only one attaching arbitrary importance to this back and forth. I disagree with you and think you're a bitch. Any importance you add to that is only you trying to console your self. Don't post shit like >>159054935
if you're not looking for people to disagree with you. This is a discussion board. Not a blog.

This is still more bearable than shipperfags currently

>>159055959
you also said
> The world of OP feels artificial, every arc and location has some relation to the strawhats, it's built around them rather than existing as separate beings with their own historical and social context that can fully function without their existence.
and as none of those arcs had an evil ruler, any of those places could function without the Straw Hats

Or are you going to tell me that Mock Town or Long Ring Long Land Island were history without the SHs? Maybe you shouldn't say stupid shit like "Every arc and location" and immediately go "w..well that's not really at all true"

>>159055959
> Hunter x Hunter had entire arcs without fights including the protagonists and in Chimera Ant Gon never even meets Meruem. We are comparing them so OP should be held to HxH's standard.

Because simply having enemies to fight isn't a bad thing in of itself. Beyond that, as >>159056013
all the crap about the locations having no historical or social context is baseless. Your only argument is that One Piece has battles which isn't bad.

>159055520
MY

I don't know if I'll be able to read an arc without Reiju in it after this.

Soooo It's implied that Blackbeard took Whitebeard's fruit power by eating part of him right?
Since Big Mom got the mother's power by eating her... Right?

>>159056013
Yeah it does because the stories crafted around those locations follow the exact formula that revolves around the main protagonists beating up bad guys. There is no convincing world building to be had there.

>>159056046
>every arc following a repetitive simplistic formula isn't a bad thing in of itself
This is pure delusion

>>159055959
Luffy sure beat up some big bad at Sabaody
or Impel Down
or Marineford

Please do explain what you mean by 100% artificial considering it's fictional of course it's 100% artificial at least in the literal sense. And since there is a world building that does consistently take place, the world feels constantly moving and feel real. I don't know where did this whole "artificial" thing come from.

>>159056055
RUBBER

>>159056100
>pure delusion
Because you disagree with it?

>>159056065
No. It's still a mystery.

>>159055959
> They are all made for Luffy to beat up the bad guy while his crew beats up the lackeys,
That really does not take away from the great world-building of the series. It is not even related to world-building at all.

From the Togashi- Oda 2011 interview

O: The arc of ants is almost finished? I think the second half of the arc ant is very special, and it inspired me a lot.

T: Thank you. I just drew it that way as if, as there were lots of breaks in between. there have been some changes in my style for the ant arc. I am impressed that OP always retains the same style.

Friendly reminder that even Oda himself admitted that the Chimera Ant arc is something "special", meaning he could never be able to implement it in his formulatic as fuck manga. Get over it OPtards

>>159056158
You really enjoy Luffy arriving at a new island revolving around some simplistic strawman (DURR DE FISHMAN RACISM), yelling "I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS!!!" to the bad guy and then punching them to death ad infinitum? That is hilarious

>>159056065
Caramel's fruit can make her soul posses animals

who says it can't half-posses humans

>>159056100
An arc cannot be considered repetitive or simplistic merely on the grounds that it involves fighting any sort of bad guy.
>the exact formula that revolves around the main protagonists beating up bad guys.
it involves the main protags beating up bad guys but as I attempted to show with the examples, that does not mean the locations require the protags or revolve around the bad guy involved. Simply having bad guys does not imply only one formula
>There is no convincing world building to be had there.
Again, all the examples involve bad guys that do not control the location they are in. World building happens that does not require the SHs or the bad guy of the arc and it can happen at the same time.

Beyond that, we constantly return to places around the world that the Straw Hats no longer inhabit. We also have shit like the Marineford war being set up in the background that largely had the SHs being absent besides them setting up a vacant warlord seat.

You seem to confuse HxH telling a story a certain way with that being the objective best way to tell the story with anything doing so differently being trash. That's pretty retarded. OP does not need to copy HxH format to be good if not better. OP can have a bad guy in every arc and still surpass HxH and this post and the post I made prior to this one explains why.

>>159054595
>Reiju
Instant 10/10 chapter

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>>159056188
>"I am impressed that OP always retains the same style"

Oh Togashi...

>>159056065
Blackbeard probably did the reverse. He turned into darkness, entered WB and got the power directly.
>B-but Blackbeard can't turn into darkness!!
Just like Mr. 0 can't turn into sand when water is touching him, BB probably can't turn into darkness when light is touching him.

I leave for one goddamn hour and here come the Hunter x Hunter fags on their high horses because there series came back (I give it four more chapters before it goes on hiatus again). You insufferable faggots make me feel bad for liking that series.

>>159056202
>you really enjoy my simplified retelling?
Seriously what is the point of even making a post that retarded? Do you think you're going to convince anyone with such a shitty argument? I guess we can take that one really shitty HxH page and end the argument there by calling all of HxH shit and claiming that everything is as bad as that one page.

>>159055962
You really aren't making as cogent of points as you believe you are. I believe all of this information presented in the spoilers, as significant as it may be, is a pretty linear development and more could have happened in this chapter. In my view, (and solely based on the spoilers) *most* chapters of One Piece manage to accomplish more. In it's summarized form, it sounds like a comparatively uneventful chapter to me.
You may continue sperging about that as much as you'd like, but I suggest you calm down (seems like you're getting pretty emotionally invested into your replies). If I'm so stupid, then don't even reply. Try to enjoy the manga and the discussion thereof.

Diet, sunlight, and exercise may help you.

More like Cunter x Cunter honestly.

>>159056281
>whole post is just ad hominem and based on a translated spoiler
wew lad

>>159056281
Kill yourself.

>>159056293
More like One Piece of Shit, amirite?

>>159056188
>trying this hard to defend your own manga
>when nobody asked you to in the first place
All you convinced me of is that HxHfags are so insecure that they'd rather go into threads and try to attract attention rather than read their own manga.

>>159056100
>exact formula
I admit, the smug absolute certainty tone is starting to get me.

The stories crafted around Skypiea and the history behind it doesn't revolve around Luffy and co beating up Enel and his subordinates. The Straw Hats don't even know the backstory of Norland and Calgara.

Story gives the main characters motivations and reasons to fight. And the stories about the location themselves can be separate from Luffy and co's motivation. Luffy beat up Enel because they're caught up in the latter's survival game, Luffy beat up Doflamingo because he's allied with Law who's going to take down a Yonkou, which is one of Luffy's goals. The story about Doflamingo usurping King Riku and the citizens' suffering are only additional motivations for Luffy when Luffy's goal to beat up Doflamingo is because of his alliance and that he doesn't like Doflamingo.

You said exact formula, but Marineford, WCI, Sabaody, and Impel Down are break offs from the typical arrive at destination -> beat up bad guys formula.

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OPtards getting blown the fuck out ITT

>>159056278
Luffy literally says "I'm going to kick _________'s ass" every arc. Oda doesn't even try to hide the recycling and storytelling made for 12 year olds. Seriously OPtards are shit eaters

>>159056318
>doesn't know what an ad hominem is
Wew. Keep fighting! You're going to win!

>>159056324
More like not everyone likes the same things, do ya get me?

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shit chapter desu

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>>159056281
I'll tell you for the third time to actually argue any of the significance I attributed to the events of this chapter as you're still just claiming that it's not significant without giving any reasoning why.
>I'm not mad you're mad
I think you should refer to the chart. If you don't have an actual argument to go with your shittalking, you're just going to come off as a child going
>yeah? Well you're stupid
You can claim I'm as mad as you want. If you can't argue anything I posted, it's only going to make you look like the asshat. (Which it looks like already happened)

>>159056361
No, we have to argue about it, YOU FAGGOT RETARD BITCH NIGGER!

>>159056351
>thinks Anonymous is one person
I'm sorry to tell you this but more than just me can read your posts. If you think I'm the only person currently on 4chan that's willing to call you retarded, you might not be ready for a discussion board at all.
see >>159056386
if you're looking to respond to me.

When the fuck is Gastino gonna show up

>>159054595
So you be sayin' there is going to be either three way war Kaido - SH - BM in Wano or SH - BM in Elbaf
Damn. i was hoping that big meme will be btfo in this arc.

>>159056386
You can pretend to be Mr. Logical all you want, but it's clear you're not applying the principle of charity, as I did for you. You also resorted to insults first.
I am saying it it not that important to me, not to advance the argument, but to let you know it isn't that important to me. I don't want to keep wasting your time. Thanks.

>>159056202
Generalization and "hmph, you enjoy this shit? heh, hilarious" condescending shit. And you expect to be taken seriously?

You don't seem to understand basic structure, flow, and character motivations/reasons. Each arc has a different story, but of course you decided to leave them out to make a gross generalization.

And look at that hyperbole "ad infinitum" shit. What about where Luffy didn't win shit in Marineford, completely lost in Sabaody and Impel Down, and is about to run away right now from Big Mom? What about those are the exact same formula?

>>159056442
see
>if you don't have an actual argument to go with your shittalking, you're just going to come off as a child going
>yeah? Well you're stupid

>>159055612
>experimental art that goes from detailed and hyper-realistic to cartoony and sketchy (you really have to read the manga for this)
ah haha haahaah HahahahAhahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA*inhales*ayy...ehe...ehe..BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAA

>>159056442
I can't believe people actually try to polish their shitpost

>>159056464
OK, anon. You're 100% right. You are a genius and a very cool guy as well. Are you happy now?

>retards falling for HxH bait
Still better than shipperfags, though.
I hope HxH goes back to hiatus soon, nothing interesting is happening anyway.

>>159056482
Is that inaccurate?

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>>159056482
?

Gon could beat up Luffy.

>>159056517
Why is there always so much dick contest among HxHfags? I've never gotten the whole deal of
>lel HxH>OP you 5yo wanpissfag BTFO

MHA > HxH

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>>159056517
Of course an OPtard would consider the most complex arc in shonen history "nothing interesting". Go back to getting exciting yourself over Oda's recycled arc #44332 please

>Sanji is going to be the one carrying Bege/everyone away from there
>He's going to run away, leaving Pudding stranded at the alter
I-it wasn't meant to end like this ;_;

>>159056595
>they just happen to spill into the thread when new chapter spoilers hit
It's hard to watch another manga have content so often. It's not like they have anything to discuss.

>>159055612

>terrible world building

in my opinion it's the HxH that feels completely artificial

>>159056641
Do you think someone like Pudding would let him?

>>159056631
Thing is, this is a One Piece thread, not a HxH thread. Both are good.

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>>159055612
>>159056568
>>159056531
>experimental art that goes from detailed and hyper-realistic to cartoony and sketchy (you really have to read the manga for this)
>experimental art
?

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>>159056629
>MHA
>durrr super saiyan punch x10000!!!
>better than anything
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'd like to make a joke about Hunter X Hunterbut the characters are so forgettable I'm having trouble coming up with anything.

>>159056188
O

>>159056676
What's the question mark? In that one reply chain there is an example of both.

>>159056661
HxH has maturity and tact to its world, like how Chimera Ant's setting mirrors North Korea to reinforce its theme and the protagonists are always individuals doing their own thing, even Gon who has no role in the current arc. The OP protagonists stick together like a fucking JRPG party with no agency, utter cringe juvenile writing.

>>159056676
>>experimental art that goes from detailed and hyper-realistic to cartoony and sketchy (you really have to read the manga for this)
>>to cartoony and sketchy
That's what he said, are OPtards seriously illiterate?

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Seeing as this is a mixed discussion thread, tell me; does Luffy's body have the properties of both gum and rubber?

Pudding is going to sneak onto the ship through Brulee's mirror world.

>>159056766
Brulee already got caught, faggot.

And why the fuck would she join the SHs, you shipping trash?

>>159056680
Who cares, it's more fun. HxH stopped being fun around the ant arc...

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>>159054595
>Vinsmoke family conflict talk no jutsu'd away

Is Oda ever gonna explain why Sanij's mom has the same name as the hero in that famous comic strip or is it up to our imaginations?

>>159056595
>Why is there always so much dick contest among HxHfags?
HxH's nature attracts the worst kind of childish oretentious fags, who feel the need to flaunt their presumed intellectual superiority.
The one in this thread is just shitposting though. Probably falseflagging, even.

>>159056787
>you shipping trash

THAT'S RIGHT, YOU TELL EM HONEY!

>>159056795
>oretentious
At least they can spell

>>159056752
Rubber, but not gum. Hisoka is therefore better, which means HxH is better, which means Togashi wins the pussy orgy Super Bowl World Series and gets to fuck all the waifus in the world.
Togashi - 3 Billion
Oda - 1
/a/ - negative googolplex

>>159056814
>nitpicking a typo

>>159056795
Do you mean ostentatious? I agree with most of your post though. Anyone who legitimately thinks that HxH is "deep" hasn't read very much in their lives. Both HxH and OP are enjoyable stories. I don't see why people feel the need to choose one over the other and are so tribalistic with their fandom.

>>159056820
I'm a one piece fanboy and even I can't argue with this.

>>159056670
I agree, they are both good. I think the main difference is this, One Piece is just more accessible, it's accessibility incarnate. It knows its audience, has complete focus on what it is, the writing is simple but managed, world, lore, and powers are easy to understand, it makes sure you know who you are rooting for, what the series is about, and why you should enjoy it and it delivers

HxH is good but is inaccessible as fuck, quality of arcs wax and wane constantly and so does the artwork, at times you root for the "villains" more than the "heroes" which turns off younger audiences, lot of exposition dumps to explain every 500-page system that Togashi comes up with, tone goes from light-hearted card games to dark brutal and realistic (kinda the point but still), you don't really get to the subversive dark elements until the third arc, most information from one arc tends not to transfer to the other (Card Games -> Species War -> Politics Drama -> ???), and the hiatuses just in case you want to still stick by.

>>159056744
>an artist being so uncaring for his work that presents barely sketched panels to the editor as a final work for publication is somewhat conciously experimenting with his conceptualization of art as some sort of new and revolutionary approach to manga drawing

>according to HxHfags every toilet is a Duchamp 'Fountain'

Seriously, you can't make that up

You fucking retards

You guys all fall for the epic fucktard who wants a retarded fandom war between HxH and OP

He is even shitposting and pretending to be an One Piece elitist in the HxH thread

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>>159056922
As a fan of both series, you summed it up perfectly. Good post anon

>>159056946
OK.
>saitama_ok.png

>>159054595
we won BigMombros!!!

>>159056936
If the entire manga was finished with napkin sketches, I would be OK with it. I wouldn't pretend it was some visual masterpiece, but that's how compelling the other elements are to me and many other fans.

>>159056065
What if the part that passes on the Devil Fruit is the heart of the previous user?

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>>159056997
Feels good, doesn't it?

At least she will be defeated in the Elbaf Arc.

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>>159056936
You're too stupid to enjoy HxH, and you're too intellectually void to really appreciate any inspired work of art. Balzac's struggles against the benchmark of wealth, Henry Miller's chaotic idolisation of the flawed, fucking Gilgamesh or Henry IV's record of friendship. Togashi is an author who isn't afraid to reference fucking Devilman and zero contract labourers. Go grow up, then come back and read Hunter x Hunter. Maybe you'll understand the significance of it.

>>159056946
You know, I'm starting to give up on these threads. People on this fucking board get baited so easily it's not even funny. Every one piece thread is 70% shitposting. No interesting discussion going on.

>>159057055
Even if you're right, don't be such a dick about it. Did you never learn the importance of not being a dick?

>>159057055
>grow up and suck off this children's comic book
Jesus, HxH fans are delusional.

>samefag arguing with himself because he's a boring faggot
Go learn how to draw or something.

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>>159057135
>samefag accusing others of samefagging

Who gives a shit about redditxreddit
fuck off.

>>159057055
This is some quality shitposting.

>>159057155
Guilty conscience, samefag?

>>159057169
You must be 18 years of age or older to post on this website.

>>159057088
You only have to come to this thread for spoilers, for the chapter shitposting and then you leave until next wednesday

All the Hunter X Hunter fans here nred to fuck off. I love the series but all you guys are doing is making it and us look bad.

[samefagging intensifies]

If you need human contact so bad, there are a thousand better places to get it.

>>159057228
That projection.

>>159057247
>MUST REPLY...

which is worse, hxhtards or the shippingfags?

>>159057354
You.

>MUH LUFFY VS BIG MOM
>MUH LUFFY CAN SHUT DOWN BIG MOM WITH NAMI AND BROOK
>MUH GEAR 5 MONKEY FUCK TRANSFORMATION

Luffyfags btfo.

>MUH BOBBINS WILL HYPNOTIZE BIG MOM AND HER FAMILY
>MUH PUDDING WILL MANIPULATE MOM AND SAVE THE STRAWHATS
>MUH BIG MOM WILL ALLY WITH THE STRAWHATS

Joyboytards btfo.

>>159057088
I'm wiling to bet that these one piece threads statistically have the most newfags. It'd a popular shonen after all.

>>159057386
Discounting Dragon Ball threads?

>>159057354
You, by far

>>159057354
Shippingfags by far.

When was it mentioned that the Noah wad originally going to move the fishmen up to the surface? Did the translation I'm reading fuck that part up?

>>159057354
Shipping, hxhfags have the decency to kill themselves each time it goes on hiatus, so for the most part they're usually just gone.

>>159057449
It wasn't a translation fuck up. It was definitely mentioned during the Fishman Island arc. I think Neptune said it.

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>>159057449
It was never said what it's purpose was, just that some promise was made around it.

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>Kadio wrecked 3 supernova
>People think Big Mom will lose to Luffy and Sanii

>>159054595
Ahaha, Nami is sounds hardcore.

The plan seems dumb so it will probably fail and they will be forced to fight. Hopefully.

>>159057483
No I'm saying the translation left out that part. All I remember Neptune saying was that they made a promise to Joyboy to protect the ship.

>>159057528
who is Sanii?

>>159057602
He's Gastino's brother

>>159057602
Kadio's adopted son / gay rape victim.

>>159057602
The hair faggot from Toriko

>>159057528
Luffy will win through the power of bants.

>Who was that woman in the picture?
>You probably ate her, you fat fuck

>>159057537
>forced to fight
You mean stalling Big Mom while the others escape?

Is Luffy going to go Super Saiyan 5 to beat Big Mom?

873: Gear5 or Awakening

Screencap this, it'll happen

>>159057602
They're ship, Thousand Sanii! She will fight the soul sun.

>>159057701
I don't think he'll defeat Big Mom this arc

>>159057701
Yes, then Super Pirate God Super Pirate against Blackbeard.

>>159057723
What did you mean by that ESL-kun?

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OPtards will dfend this.

>>159057774
Pretty sure he's making fun of >>159057528
rather than being ESL himself.

>>159057781
Stuff like that works perfectly in OP because it doesn't take itself too seriously.

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>>159057781
>poundman
stop injecting your personal fantasies into One Piece you faggot

>>159057781
>dfend
Very LQ bait, anon. Mommy loves you anyway.

>>159057781
I-I-IF YOU DON"T LIKE THIS FORM THEN YOU ARE NOT A TRUE FAN OF ONE PIECE

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>>159057781
What's there to defend?

Reminder that One piece is for kids

>Q: Why do Doflamingo and Violet call each other "Doffy" and "Viola"?

>Oda: Actually there is a profound setting about it, but I'm afraid I can't tell you. I told my editor about it, though. Considering ONE PIECE is Shonen manga, I'd like to hide it since the reason is for adult audience. Dressrosa is a nation of passion, indeed!!

>I'd like to hide it since the reason is for adult audience.

>>159057847
Sasuga straw man false flagger-kun

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What does this mean?

>>159057872
>muh flaseflagging
one piece tards everyone

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>>159057781
HxHfags will dfend this.

>>159057865
Wait, they fucked? Did she consent?

>>159057899
a iconic transformation?

>>159057864
I don't see any edgy haki flames and mascara, do you?

>>159057939
>edgy haki flames
It's the pattern of his devil fruit, actually. The anime even went out of its way to point this out (because japanese audiences are so bad at thinking for themselves that they needed to point this out.)

>>159057964
>OPtard reaching this hard

>>159057964
OP audience are bad at thinking, that's why they read a manga like Wan Piss where everything is straightforward with no nuance

>>159057901
All sex with Doffy is automatically consensual.

>>159057865
Doffy fucking ruined that royal pussy!

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>>159057964

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>>159058022

>>159057979
Nah, the nips in general are like that. Notice how whenever something interesting happens in any manga/anime, there has to be a side character there pointing out exactly what is happening even when it is prefectly clear to everyone?

>>159058042
An entire country of aspies.

>>159058068
It's their drone culture. If you had chinks in your classes at university you would know that it is even worse in China.

>>159054711
>Wano
>Kaidou
When will you retards learn?

>us one piece bros are getting BTFO'ed
I-ITS NOT NOT FAIR BROS I THOUGHT ONE PIECE IS THE GREATEST MASTERPIECE OF ALL TIME?

>>159058108
I have had some, but they were Hong Kong elite, so not exactly run of the mill Chinese. I do know what you mean, however.

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>>159058121
have a small zehahaha for your effort

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>>159057964
>>159058041
>speed reader reaching this hard
lmao that pattern looks nothing like this

>>159058121
>I THOUGHT ONE PIECE IS THE GREATEST MASTERPIECE
it is..

>>159057865
I bet he railed Monet too.

>>159058022
>>159058041
Oh wow didn't know that, coolio

>>159058142
one piecetard BTFO
will he ever recover?

>>159058161
For sure. Guy probably nailed everything that moved.

>>159058142
>OPtards will defend this too

>>159057528
>3 supernova
4,Killer is a supernova too.Kaido is way stronger than Big Mom as well so it might be possible.

>>159058214
(You)

>>159057781
Why was Gear 2nd so good but this so bad?

>>159058223
>Kaido is way stronger
Dumb Kaidofag

>>159058232
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>159057528
Kaidou wrecked Kidd. We don't know about Killer and Hawkins. Apu joined him.

>OPtards going full damage control
like clockwork

Wan Piss fags BTFO

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>>159058142
>people think that these two are the """""same pattern""""
really makes you think

>>159058259
You are such an enlightened being.

>>159057964
>It's the pattern of his devil fruit, actually. The anime even went out of its way to point this out
That was damage control in order to justify Oda's terrible design.

>>159058241
>strongest living thing in the world
>no one can defeat him one on one
Big Mom will likely go down this arc to 1/10 the forces thatw ill take down Kaido,Big Meme would be lucky to push Kaido to a mid difficulty fight.

>>159057964
pathetic

>>159057964
The anime didn't point jackshit

It's just edgy tribal tattoos to appease fightingfags who endured 100 chapters of Doflamingo/Law wanking

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>>159055073
>Just got a quick info regarding Hunter x Hunter for you today. The series takes about 2-3 times as long to translate as One Piece (the 2nd longest series in our weekly line-up), but at the same time, for many of us on the team, it's their favorite.

>>159057964
>this is your common optard that defends oda's shit designs

>>159058312
>forgetting the SBS question where Oda makes a joking statement that your mom is stronger than Kaido

>>159058142
Looks more like the mera mera fruit. Though I don't see why it should look like that.

ITT: Wan Piss tards getting BTFO'ED
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>159058358
I know it was a joke,but the fact that Oda used Kaido as an example instead of Shanks,BB or Akainu only proves more that Kaido is the strongets in the series.Too bad there are somany stupid motherfuckers out there that refuse to acknowledge that simply becuase they're blind fanboys of soem other character.

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>you literally can't defend this

>>159055073
I wish Madhouse got One Piece.

>>159058449
Madhouse doesn't want Wan Piss.

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Why is armament covering only parts of his body a problem? We've known about it for a long time. The pattern could be any random thing if Oda felt like it.

>>159058476
Why are you here?

>>159058492
Because it's a terrible and edgy design.

>>159058428
The eistence of Nen alone is a bigger fucking asspull than anything in OP put together

>you can't see Nen unless you actually know how to use it yet Killua was able to recognize Zeno's attack despite not knowing Nen even existed while he stayed with his family

Speaking of that,how the fuck did Killua know abotu Aluka's powers yet he didnt know abotu Nen?The existence of the Dark continent is also an asspull since we had previously seen pictures of the globe and it looked eactly like a reversed Earth.

>>159058492
Oda only knows how to make deviant tier shit designs.

>>159058515
How's that?

>>159058492

Ignore them, they're morons and don't even know what it's referencing.

>>159058537
Wrong thread. HxH thread is over there --->

>>159054595
So um, if they run away, what's gonna stop Big Mom from having Zeff and the Baratie crew killed?

>>159058582
The power of Jesus Christ's love.

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>>159058142
Enel got fat.

>>159058142
>>159058614
>OPtards will defend this obvious copypaste

>>159054595
Nothing happened the chapter.

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Wtf LuNabros??????? What happenee??

>>159058636
Correct.

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>>159058628
Oda redraws everything oddly enough, unlike other authors who actually do copy old pages in flashbacks.

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>>159058660

>>159058614
How did Enel survive on the moon? What does he eat? Where does he drink from? Can he breath at all?
How do Odafags defend this?

>>159058686
He's made of plasma.

>>159054595
>Bege undos his castle. Ichiji blocks countless number of bullets that come flying in.
How'd he do this?

>>159054595
Why are shitposters trying to create some sort of retarded feud between OP and HxH?

>>159058753
It's one or two retarded faggots that have nothing going on in their lives. Don't try to understand them, just report and ignore.

>>159055432
You sound like a Narutard.

>>159058723
Their bodies are stronger than regular bullets, though I'm not sure why they aren't all armed with the special guns. Not sure if the bullets are fired by haki users or if they're seastone either or Luffy could have just bounced them back. Kind of need spoiler pics to know what's going on.

>>159058723
The Germa bros are good human shields
Ironic considering they get their underlings to take bullets for them

>>159058907
Well, Sanji caved Yonji's face in with a kick, presumably imbued in haki
I have yet to see a haki-coated bullet, and I don't expect it to be stronger than Sanji's kicks at this point.
I know I'm asssuming a bit, but I guess that makes the Vinsmoke bros kevlar-level bulletproof.

>sabo had a piece of luffys vivre card
>revolutionaries immediately get fucked by the blackbeard pirates

What if blackbeard finds it and follows luffy to raftel because of this?

>>159057928
>memetic
ftfy

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>>159054595
Chiffon, hey, Chiffon. You aware you were ok with KILLING her? Remember?

>>159057964
>referencing the anime
fuck off

>>159058346
Well, many people here are autistic, so that's understandable

>>159057888
Jack is the 11th member

>>159059197
>/a/

>>159059204
90%.

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Leave Big Meme to me Luffy-kun!

>>159059069
>revolutionaries immediately get fucked by the blackbeard pirates
[citation needed]

>When Shippingfags leave HxHbaiters take their spot
Hot pockets if you aren't going to do your job, at least ban these threads from existing.

HxH is the DC to OP's Marvel.

Tries to be more serious and the fans pull a '2deep4u' mentality when discussing the quality.

>>159059335
>comparing OP and HxH to the worst western trash
Kys

>>159059302
More like butthurt shipperfags taking HxHbaiters very seriously.

>>159059240
SHE'S IN

>>159054595
>it's a filler chapter
The Hack can't keep getting away with it

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You're a big girl.

>>159054595
>She persuades him that it will be okay to fight once they meet up with Zoro
ZORO CONFIRMED BIG MOM KILLER

>>159054595
>She persuades him that it will be okay to fight once they meet up with Zoro and the others.

Imagine shitposting so hard that your "when's zoro" meme becomes real

>>159059485
>I want the main story issuesto be solved NOW and I want it ALL TOGETHER and QUICK and SIMPLE!
kys

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>>159059256
quit speedreading.

>>159059572
Nami is REALLY pissed at Sanji.

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reminder

>>159058614
>Enel's final form was fat lightning

I miss skypeia.

>>159059485
>filler
Kys