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Can you really blame Subaru for picking this otherwordly beauty

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Can you really blame Subaru for picking this otherwordly beauty over some plain maid?
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>>158848749
Yeah, this otherworldy beauty that will become a nightmare that consumed an entire country. Though, to be fair, he probably didn't sign up for that bit.
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>>158848749
Why can't he have both? I don't think that it was ever mentioned to be against societal norms.
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Emilia is a qt.
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>>158848749
why does that furry looking thing have such a huge ballsack and why is it resting on her head
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>>158848749
Absolutely not.
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>>158848749
I have a remarkably good taste in waifus and I'd rather pick Julius. He's the best waifu that's a fact.
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So what happen to her after anime part?
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>>158850890
Its revealed she is mentally 14 years old.
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>>158848749

Yes. She's a plain character devoid of any charisma who's trying to win an election to run a country. I'm still mad at her for asking Felt "politely" for her jewel back, one that gives her the ability to run for the election in the first place.

I would slit that peasant chick's throat.
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>>158850989
The best /a/ge, right?
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>>158850890
this. i didn't bother to read the light novel, so what are the essential further developments?
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>>158848749

No. I love Emilia
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>>158851108
I see what you did there anon :^)
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She has the best character design and she's the most genuinely nice person in the series.

There's simply no other character that you can point to and say "Yes. That is a good person. I can trust them."
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>>158848749
yes, yes I can
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She looks too much like Asuna. I wouldn't call a recolor of an already generic-looking character an "otherworldly beauty".
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>>158848749
I don't because that means I can breed the maid.
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>>158851373
>She looks too much like Asuna
I've never thought once about Asuna while seeing Emilia and even I still don't. Asuna a shit.
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>>158849503
If a pure girl like Emilia thinks that's the right thing to do, she most likely has a reason anon.
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wtf I love Emilia now
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Emilia > Remshit
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>>158848749
No.
Ram is ugly compared to Emilia. So I would probably do the same.
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>>158848749
Of course no. Everybody makes mistakes.
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Yes
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>>158851311
>half elf
>a good person you can trust
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>>158848749
Not really but still Rem is better for him than Emilia.
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>>158848749
no but rem is better for him
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>>158852039
>>158852077
You don't get to decide that.
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>>158851311
Hey man, I'd trust Reinhardt with my life.
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I don't like this series, but Emilia design is great.
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>>158852039
>>158852077
>for him
Stop using ram as your selfinsert hambeast.
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>>158851311
>>158852225
I agree with that anon, Reinhardt would be the best choice. Speaking of him, did he do anything relevant in the light novel?
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Anal sex with Emilia.
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Nope, not at all.
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>>158852039
But he doesn't deserve Rem
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>Emilia
- stands to be the queen
- impeccable manners, educated, nobility
- beautiful
- can heal you and do cool magic shit
- protected by an OP spirit
>Rem
- a servant with no prospects
- an ogre from a fucking ogre village
- bigger tits which can be an dvantage if you're a pleb
- can go hulk smash and probably murder you as collateral
- has an annoying bitter twin sister who's liable to go full Kohaku on you
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>>158854436
That's also not wrong.
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>>158854787
>an ogre from a fucking ogre village
Literally this. Inferior genes, looks, manners, status, and relatives. How can she even compete with Emilia?
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>>158854787
>stands to be the queen
Well goodbye to the kingdom

>impeccable manners, educated, nobility
She acts like a 9 year old

>beautiful
I give you that she is very pretty

>can heal you and do cool magic shit
Wow literally every other person can do that

>protected by an OP spirit
Which will kill you and half of the world if you mess up even once.
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>>158854787
You forgot that Emilia would not be able to do jackshit without Subaru. She would have been killed by Betelegeuse, she would fail the trials pathetically, she would have been killed by Regulus. And that is just scratching the surface.
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>>158855248
To the current novel how many times has she died if not for subaru?
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>>158854787
This. Rem is unironically a shit girl and I don't see what people see in her other then her devotion to subaru.
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>>158848749
Why is she so retarded /a/?
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>>158848749

No, of course not. However, he has already indicated to both of them that he would like to make a three-way relationship work, with him, Rem, and Emilia. Rem has okay'ed it and Emilia did not seem to mind. Emilia is more uncertain about whether she would pair with Subaru at all. I do not think Rem is really a part of the equation for Emilia.

Something really fun is going to be the final arcs of this series. For the finale, Subaru will no longer have Return by Death and will have to confront everything at the end without it. That should be high octane. Of course, we should think about when he gets his Return by Death ability to begin with-- the answer is when he promises "I am going to save you."

Still, I think that we can expect the romance to conclude happily for all parties. While the journey will probably get a lot more painful, I do not think the destination is going to be all that grim.
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>>158855248
To be fair that's mostly a flaw of how the story is written.
Kill Emilia for shock value and so that Subaru can fall into despair only to regain his confidence and find the path to the happy ending.

This basic structure has been repeated over and over again because it's what made the series popular but it's at the expense of the characters and quality of the series.
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>>158848749
Nope, Ram really is mean to him. There's no reason to pick her over the cute half elf.
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>>158848749
Yes. He has shit taste just like (You).

>>158854878
>implying Rem tries or needs to compete
She's way above and beyond that.
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>>158857879
Who?
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Serious question: why are Remfags so easy to bait?
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>>158848749
No. Emilia is beauty and grace. Rem is an ugly shit.
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>>158858429
Rem is attractive, she's just not as attractive as Emilia.
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>>158848749
>the plain maid said she will love him forever
>she said she was willing to have kids with him
>probably rough wild sex with her every day

>over a girl who din du shit on the serie
>with a relation that will go nowhere for a long time
>it will take them 5 years to hold hand and kiss
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>>158858370
>no one actually likes Emilia, they just like to bait Remfags

I feel so bad for Emilia. She deserves better fans tbqh.
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>>158858835
Poor bait. See, you guys just can't do it.
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>>158851311
>Trusting the half elf
You know shit is eventually going to go bad right?
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>>158858835
> She deserves better fans tbqh.
you mean she deserves fans in the first place.
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>>158848749
Yes, Emilia's personality is complete shit. When she's not being obnoxious, she's just boring.
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>>158848749
a little lower so I can see her armpits, please
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Animeonlyfag here. Is Satella the witch who once herself was the future after going way too far back before the beginning but then saved after now? And if so, why?
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>>158848749
I can't

Emilia is best girl
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>>158848749
Why didn't Subaru fuck one - kill himself - then fuck the other?
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>>158860428
fuck off degenerate.
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Is the rest of the story post anime more fucking loops?
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>>158860698
Because Subaru hates dying.
Besides, he'd be even scummier for trying to pull that shit.
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>>158848749
No but he should have killed the little fur fag floating around her. Seriously, fuck that thing.
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I want to sniff and lick Emilia's butt.
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>>158849503
Yandere maid killed him because he smelled bad
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>>158860641
yes
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I want to be friends with Emilia
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>>158854964
>She acts like a 9 year old
You say this like it's a bad thing. Women that act as little girls turn me on.
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Rem and Emilia are both shit.
Without Subaru they'd both be dead.
WITHOUT HIM IT'D BE MUCH WORSE
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>>158848749
show full picture please, wanna see her armpit
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>>158855248
Potato would have died since arc 2 if Subaru hadn't appeared and saved her sorry ass so what you mean?
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>>158848749
Well its a good thing he never did
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>>158852301
He appears in arc 5 and is involved in the major fight there and has some backstory/family stuff, but major things involving him are probably pretty endgame.
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>Shitty thread dies
>The butthurt Emiliafags who swore only Remfags start things immediately make a thread specifically to shit on Rem because they aren't done being butthurt yet
Gee, really proving your point there guys, good job.
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>>158850666
Because its a dick, and she's an elf.
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>>158867778
>I'm so happy that a cheater and scumbag says he loves the potato and wants to fuck her!
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>>158868040
Not really fuck, rather marry and start a family with. Or at least have a deep relationship between the two.
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>>158868164
>between the two.
no, the three.
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still /r/ing Emilia in a jojo pose with puck as her stand
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>>158858370
Because in reality they know their waifu's chances to win are minimal when the author has to write a sidestory for her to win So they constantly Defcon1 and need to shit Emilia while cherrypickng from the text to make themselves feel better.
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>>158868586
>This projection because their 'designated waifu' is literally losing to a coma patient
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Who gives more cancer in the isekai threads: remfags, konosubafags or louisefags
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>>158867778
>Subaru: "-I love Emilia"
>Rem: "-Yes"
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>>158868225
This would be nice.
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>>158868688
>Losing to something that well never get to first, second and third base ever. Unlike the other waifu who has conquered one of them, twice.

Yeah, this isn't working out for so far.

>>158868705
remfags
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>>158868858
>Losing to something that the universe is trying really hard to kill
>Losing to something the universe constantly cockblocks
>Losing to something that's in a coma
>Losing to something that actually fucking killed Subaru once
>Losing to a maid
Yes, Emilia is that much of a fuck up
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>>158868365
what will happen if you stab Emilia with Keening?
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I wonder how inferior Rem feels compared to Emilia
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>>158869114
She probably has an inferiority complex towards Emilia.
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>>158868949
Oh, and
>Losing to something that is actively helping you and sabotaging herself
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>>158868971
you would become as powerful as Vivec
The witch cult is the same as the 6th house cult with Satella as Dagoth Ur and Subaru as Nerevarine
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>>158868688
>losing
Emilia doesn't even try yet Subaru will always consider her his #1 kek.
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>>158869133
She has an inferiority complex towards everything. That's like asking if water is wet.
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>>158869150
She's literally trying right now and the relationship went nowhere in a year.
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>>158869207
And she's been molested by multiple other people in that time, and didn't even mind it.
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I want to marry Emilia.
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>>158849577
If he can pick two, then he should pick Ran and Rem. If not then solely Emelia.
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>>158869282
Me too anon. She's so perfect.
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>>158849577
It seems like it's technically legal, but everyone definitely reacts to it as if it's against societal norms.
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>>158869207
It will develop faster after Subaru wakes the potato up and gets the guilty off his chest.
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>>158848749
It's funny because Emilia is a more realistic character than Rem, and her being Satella(Which plenty of non-Remfags predicted) has her beat Rem at her own waifubait game.

EMT.
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>>158869563
EMM
>Emilia-tan
>Maji
>Majou
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>>158869114
I bet she cries to sleep every night while she hears Subaru fucking Emilia in the other room
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>>158848749
what does her armpits smell?
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>>158869821
Do elves have noses in their armpits?
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>>158869563
>Implying being associated with Satella is good
Satella is the worst girl. She destroyed half the world, killed 5 other GOAT girls and has split personality. In addition she overruns the world with her shadows and almost permanently kills Subaru just cause he said he could RBD in a realm Satella couldn't touch.
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>>158869821
It's known in the Re: Zero universe that half-elves don't bathe.
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>>158851311
>elves
>trustworthy
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>>158859659
she probably doesn't to be honest
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>>158869972
Emilia is going to betray Subaru. He's already got 2 sin archbishop authorities, and he's definitely going to get a third one (Gluttony) in order to save Rem. He's not going to stop there, Wrath, Lust, Pride and eventually Envy will be his eventually as well. Do you think a half elf wench will associate with one who has the demonic power of the archbishops and envious witch? She's definitely becoming king, I wouldn't be very comfortable as a citizen if a half elf had a follower who has the nature of evil as his power.
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>>158870048
We actually specifically know that they do, and she bathes naked with Arch.
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Name one good thing about Emilia besides her looks. Protip: you can't.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvJsG4F2Img
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>>158870324
She counts stairs like no other. Checkmate remfags.
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>>158869821
Like roses.
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>>158869821
Like witch stank. Black roses and lavender or something was it?
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>>158870369
Yeah, but does she stack rocks?
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>>158870324
That girl looks so scary and bloodthirsty. Whoever finds her attractive must be wrong in the head.
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>>158870496
What did he mean by this?
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>>158870457
That's what people say, but everyone who actually smells it says it smells like nose rape.
>>158870496
The words look like English, but I'm afraid I can't quite parse them. What's this guy saying?
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>>158870496
Scary is just another word for cute
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>Rem is a female version of this
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I wouldn't be surprised if Stella is the true heroine of Re:zero. Emilla is the false heroine who the hero usually goes after because of their fated first encounter. Although in this case Stella is just using Emilla as a stand in because of the similarities she has with he by manipulating Subaru feelings towards Emilla until he reaches her. Rem is the sub-heroine that ended up getting very popular.
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>>158870792
that one is ram
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>>158870544
It's a shame that there's not many fanart of berserk Ram. I'd love to see the sisters going ham together.
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>>158848749
>lowly ogre vs beautiful elf
Rem could never compete.
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>>158848749
Yes.
Felt was right fucking there.
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>>158870529
Damn she actually looks very good at times. But how comes she only copies her sister's look rather than come up with her own hairstyle?
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>>158872093
Wait til she wakes up.
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>>158869170
Is Rem wet?
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>>158870145
agreed, but you get what I was trying to say...
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>>158872480
Any time Subaru pats her head.
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>>158868365
Ignore the sketchiness, but I was afraid the thread died before I finished.
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"first girl wins" has ruined countless stories
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Season two when?
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>>158871743
Felt is Reinhard's.
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I'm not gonna lie I don't even watch this shit and what I know comes from a friend who reads the LN and he's currently in Japan so I've got to ask you guys.
Who's winning the shipping?
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>>158873003
I greatly appreciate it
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>>158873161
First girl was Felt though.
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>>158873380
>Who's winning the shipping?
No one.
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>>158873380
>Who's winning the shipping?
not first girl, surprisingly
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>>158848749

Honestly, once I started putting my penis regularly into a girl, I wouldn't care. I mean, everyone knows that once you have a girlfriend, you could care less about other women.

You're already getting laid regularly, so you're simply not as interested after that.
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>>158873388
I'm glad you liked it.
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>Subaru is representative of all of the sins
>People think he won't choose Rem when he also embodies Greed, Lust and Pride
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>>158874188
What do those stuffs have to do with Rem?
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>>158874338
Rem is basically the physical embodiment of the seven heavenly virtues.
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>>158870479
Oh shit, I forgot about that. Uh, she can throw snowballs?
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>>158873380
Real answer, nobody. All shipping is on hold until one of them stops being dead and the other stops being retarded. Its a neck and neck race.
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>>158874628
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>>158851311
>she's the most genuinely nice person in the series.

She literally made a contract with a demon to kill everyone on the planet in the event of her death.
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You know you suck when in Brotto's eyes, you're 3rd from the bottom in terms of people he should respect Emilia barely beats Roswaa in this regard.
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>>158875064
I have to ask, except for Pack and Subaru does anyone legitimately like her? Rem and Ram don't think highly of her, Otto doesn't think highly of her, Roswaal uses her as a pawn, Echidna HATES her, Sirius of Wrath despises her and everyone in general hates Silver Haired elfs.
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Do fans of Re:Zero think it's better than SAO?
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>>158875407
probably, since it is.
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>>158874524
How so? Like, how can she embody Pride when her self-esteem is shit and she herself is selfless as fuck?
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>>158869972
There's nothing wrong with being a yandere.
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>>158875407

Look, I don't think it's perfect. But it's a hundred times better than SAO. I mean that's a ridiculously low bar.
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>>158875572
Indeed
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>>158848749
Remfag is cancer
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>>158875407
Isekai is better then just vmmorpg
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>>158875162
Regulus, although his bar for 'legitimately likes' seems to be approximately the same as most Emiliafags and how they justify Subaru, so I guess he counts.
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>>158875718
Also SAO is basically one of the worst fake games ever made.
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>>158875630
Hypocrite Sadistic Cunt
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>>158848749
>Which will kill you and half of the world if you mess up even once.
To add, would also do the same if Barusu stuck his dick inside this crazy.
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>>158875630
That's just a psycho cunt. Satella genuinely loves Subaru.
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>>158875407
It is a fact, SAO tries to be more interesting than .hack but fails miserably.
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>>158875162
Lets see, Rem, Ram, Freddie and Petra have a certain professional distance from her. Of these, Rem things badly of her and is frustrated by her, but due to her own personality blames herself for feeling this way and dislikes it. Petra probably has some moderately positive opinion of her because of the stuff with the village. Freddie seems pretty neutral, she's just a servant. Ram has the 'best' relationship with her, having spent to most time with her and desiring her to be strong. She still thinks fairly low of Emilia's abilities, but as of arc 4 is maybe hopeful, perhaps desperately so.

Otto seems to have a low opinion of her, but I don't really know why, since initially it seemed like he would be one of the few people backing Emilia for her own sake out of understanding her issues. But since she almost never interacts with him maybe that's more of a neutral opinion, but he still places a little girl that bullies him above her.

Garf probably has a positive opinion of her because she freed Sanctuary. He has mixed feelings about that, but he at least has to respect her being able to do it.

Betty thinks she's dumb and childish, so that seems generally unpositive, although Betty is fairly tsundere, but it seems somewhat legitimate and maybe pitying in her case.

Roswaal holds her in contempt and thinks she's worthless and was trying to swap her out for a better pawn, caring nothing for her aside from the blood running through her veins.

Clind is probably in about the same boat as Freddie and Annerose seems to like her for whatever reason.

Most other people outside her camp hold her in disdain except for the most uncaring or friendly of people, like Ricardo and Mimi.
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>>158876066
>Lovemelovemelovemelovemelovemelovemelovemeloveme
Seems sane to me
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>>158873380
using a car race analogy:
Emilia doesn't know how to start her car, let alone drive it
Rem crashed hers right before the finish line
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>>158876510
>Rem crashed hers right before the finish line
Nah, some asshole stole her engine and slashed her tires.
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>>158876066
>ILOVEYOUILOVEYOUILOVEYOUILOVEYOUILOVEYOU
Sane
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>>158876612
and then another asshole blew up the repair shop
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>>158876706
And Emilia still doesn't know what a key is or where it goes.
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>>158876755
Rem will stop right at the finish line and wait until Emilia catches up so she and Rem would pass the line together.
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>>158876755
At least she now knows the windshield wipers aren't how you give the car gas
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>>158876066
Do we know who loves Subaru the most in the story? Subaru seems to have the strongest reactions to Satella's affectionate and loving words despite not remembering anything about her so it must be Satella (and Emilia eventually) right?
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>>158877280
Rem
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>>158877324
Rem's love is strong enough to make Subaru consider her his second wife yes.
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>>158877280
I think this excludes Satella though
嫉妬の魔女を除いて現時点でスバルへの好感度が最も高いのは誰ですか?
レムです
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>>158878218
But I thought Satella and the Witch of Envy were two separate personalities.
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>>158878270
Debatable. The other witches think they are, Echidna thinks they're not. Echidna is the smartest witch and the most knowledgeable but none of them expanded on their reasoning as to why/why not so its kind of up in the air.
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>>158878218
I'm curious about why they exclude Satella in that conversation. Perhaps it is spoiler since Satella's overwhelming love for Subaru is essentially Emilia's for him?
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>>158878504
Questioner excluded her for some reason, I guess they assume her love is the strongest/most insane.
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>>158848749
Nope, EMT is the best and has never killed him unlike certain other overrated side character.
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>>158878811
>Never tried to kill him
If what people are assuming about Satella and Emilia are correct, Emilia was nearly going to kill him for real, no RBD nonsense.
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>>158879453
Well she's giving him RbD in the first place, so its only fair. But Rem never murdered a bunch of innocent people and all of Subaru's friends either, so maybe that's a wash.
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>>158879728
Unless Satella is Rem, in which case she did.
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>Emilia literally thinks babies are made from kissing
Is there a purer waifu around?
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>>158879987
Holy shit Emilia really is waifubait.
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>>158879828
>Satella is a half-elf
>She also looks exactly like Emilia
>but she is Rem!
?
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I'd pick Bowel Hunter
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>>158848749
Is there going to be a second season?
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>>158880252
Absolutely.
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>>158879987
Rem doesn't think anything right now, so yes.
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>>158880135
top-tier taste tbqh
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>>158880403
When!?
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>>158880113
Its a wacky and mostly nonsense theory, but it goes something like she somehow gets uber shadow magic, goes back to the past, eats up all the sins and using Lust's authority makes herself look exactly like Emilia. There's almost nothing to it beyond wild speculation and Satella calling him Subaru-kun one time.
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>>158880467
Didn't Emelia tell Suburu that her name was Satella once?
Is that significant?
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>>158880044
Nice dubs
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>>158880463
It should be next year or so I think. The first season was a huge success so I doubt they will pass off the chance to make another season and earn more money from it.
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How have Subaru come being in love with a psycho-butcher? The best adjective for her is dangerous.
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>>158880509
Not really, the reasons she did so are sort of dumb but also explained. She was essentially telling him to fuck off. If he had any common sense for the world they were in he would either be scared or assume she was completely crazy.
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>>158880649
How come you speak no english?
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>>158880704
There was a door.
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>>158880467
>Satella calling him Subaru-kun one time.
Emilia can easily learn it from Rem, can't she?
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>>158880427

Or Crusch-sama, Elsa and Crusch are my two favourites but I'd side with any of them if I was in Subaru's position. Rezero had too many best girls.
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Emilia is a half elf demonspawn who deserves to be crucified
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>>158880963
Oh Subaru will crucify her, with his dick.
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I literally dropped this series at "I love Emilia".
They could've made it easy, but no Subaru has to fuck up again and again.
This is worse than a Mexican soap opera in the amount of things that go horribly wrong for no reason at all besides the stupidity of the characters.
Also doesn't help that the plot is going nowhere and boring as fuck.
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>>158881165
Rem getting cucked hard after her epic speech was easily the best part of the horrible third arc.
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>>158880928
>implying you can have too many best girls
anon pls
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>>158881250
Why?
Is this an edgelord or an NTR thing?
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>>158881414
No, its fairly complicated and hard to explain fully, but this happened.
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>>158881501
So you're saying it's just for people with an NTR fetish.
Glad that's cleared up.
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>>158881414
It's not NTR since the guy will fuck two girls equally.
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>>158881531
That image also skips that that speech is a title drop more or less. But no, its not really an NTR thing because Rem is really bad at taking no for an answer and two days later they're trying to suck face.

And then she dies
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>>158881165
>Really thinking they can fit everything into one arc
Your first mistake. Plots way too big and enemies are way too powerful to fit in the 3rd arc, Greed is so strong Reinhard the strongest thing in the Re:zeroverse is needed to beat him.
>Thinking Emilia cucked Rem
Your second mistake. Dialogue between Emilia and Subaru about her implies that he is going to give more attention to Rem once he cures her from potatoness. Do not fall for the cuck meme, also it was Rem who Carmilla the Witch of LUST (not to be confused with archbishop of Lust) shifted into,
not Emilia.
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>>158881606
>>158881613
So you're saying that even in the LN/manga this shit still isn't closer to getting any significant progress in the plot?
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>>158881613
>Dialogue between Emilia and Subaru about her implies that he is going to give more attention to Rem
Don't you know Subaru is always all talk and no action? What makes you think any of that will happen?
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>>158881822
Because where Rem is concerned he's all action no talk because he can't have conversations about her with anyone else? He spent a year researching leads, invented and made a custom wheelchair, and is leading an expedition to save her.
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>>158881661
Nope, not really. All that's really been added is that there's some Seal somewhere that Emilia is the key to and some bitch wants through it.
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>>158881661
Farthest Tappei has written is arc 6 in the WN, there is a total of 11 arcs. The LN is almost done arc 4
>>158881822
Then you don't know Subaru post-from zero. The man has grown some balls as he even insulted the Jealous witch for referring to him as Subaru-kun
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>>158881940
>>158881943
well fuck I'm glad I dropped it
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>>158881960
You could join us in the unending wait for new content. It should be about 3 years tops before we start seeing something fresh, and after we get to that point Tappei is a relatively fast writer, he could probably finish a volume in 2-3 months tops.
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Anyone know why Rem became Satella repellent?
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>>158882273
Perhaps it's envy's weakness. Envy is the desire to obtain superior qualities of another or deprive them of it. Perhaps Rem's love is something she could never obtain or deprive (at least with her authority) and thus she weakens her.
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>>158882514
That's maybe possible, Envy didn't take too kindly to Petra's handkerchief either, which Echidna said was suitable because it was full of love. Of course it was basically just a lightsaber for Subaru to kill himself with so maybe Petra should be careful with her feelings in the future.
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>>158882514
Petra's scarf seemed to have similar effects after Echidna enhanced it.

Envy seems to be weak to love.
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>>158848749
I just finished this yesterday and it was actually pretty good. I wish I could've watched it with /a/ also bettelgeuse was one of my fav characters. But there are still alot of open questions.
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>>158880877
No, much easier for Rem to learn shadow magic to travel back in time and eat Lust's authority to become an Emilia look alike.
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>>158855923
Did the story even get that far? If that's the case it should b finished, but he's stull releasing chapters isn't he?
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>>158860698
Have you even read the web novel? He doesn't choose his checkpoints, what woul happen if his checkpoint becomes the moment he unloads into one of them?
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>>158883603

No, but I think it is absolutely certain that there is no other way for the finale to play out. The audience cannot be in suspense if we know there is no way Subaru can fail. Plus, that is a huge trope, the "no more lives" or the "final loop to get it right" that happens in these kinds of stories.

I cannot imagine a world where that does not happen.
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>>158883603
The story isn't very far at all really. Things tend to happen quickly when shit does start so even the big 'end game' plots could come up and be resolved relatively fast, but those things aren't even really on the radar. They are currently mostly just trying to unfuck up the shit that got fucked up in arc 5 (and 3)
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>>158883660
>what woul happen if his checkpoint becomes the moment he unloads into one of them?
He kills himself a bunch
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>>158849503
We have nuclear bombs that dwarf the witch of envy in destructive power.
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How can the Onilets even compete?
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>>158875486
>>158875623
>>158876146
>>158875806
You're only fooling yourself. SAO has a better MC, better action, and a slightly less pandering plot.
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>>158883830
I don't think we do, she destroyed half the world. Its not a big world, but its big enough, and I don't even know if its current size is considered the undestroyed half of the world. The biggest one we've ever made blew up a few hundred miles, and the Re: Zero world is certainly bigger than that.
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>>158883844
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=63535307
How indeed
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>>158852010
>>158852039
>>158852077
>>158854436
>>158857879
>>158858500

Who's this Rem people keep talking about?
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>>158875407
Re: Zero has one good episode. SAO has none.
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>>158884125
Is that the edgy episode that /a/ couldn't stop jackassing on about?
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>>158884179
It's the cuck episode
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>>158883948
We have enough nuclear bombs to wipe out the entire world many times over, and we have technology to build larger nukes that by themselves can destroy continents. And dont even get me started on anti matter bombs.
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>>158884614
We have enough to cause the human race to go extinct, but we're extremely far from being able to destroy this entire planet. Earth gives zero shits about us.
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>>158884683
So you're telling me if we nuke Satella she'll go extinct like Hiroshima?
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>just watched ep18
>started crying like a little bitch at Rem's confession at the end
>Subaru just stone cold rejects it with "I love Emilia"

I want to punch him so hard
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>>158875407
They are contrarian hipsters, so probably.
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>>158884746
If you've read the "From Zero" chapter

>Nobody made expectations for Subaru. She is the only person who didn’t abandon him and didn’t accept the Subaru who abandoned even himself.
>This is the “curse” that Subaru cast on her.

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>[Rem: You woke up with a smile, told me the words I wanted to hear the most when I wanted to hear them the most, from the person I wanted to hear them from the most.]
>The frequency of the “curse” that Subaru cast on her is spoken from her mouth.
>That “curse” profoundly and gently restrained her heart with the chains called faith, and she was tied by them like this now as well.

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>Because he only continued to show his unattractive side…
>Because Subaru himself cast an everlasting “curse” on her…
>He had an obligation to fulfill that duty.

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>He raises his face, looks forward, and then looks into Rem’s eyes. She calmly and kindly waits for Subaru to let out his answer.
>Because Subaru wanted to be the Natsuki Subaru that she loves…
>[Subaru: ??I love Emilia.]
>[Rem: ??Yes.]
>Rem responds to Subaru’s confession by nodding with a smile that made it seem as if she knew everything.
>And while knowing how cruel he was being to her smile and her kindness

Which is further emphasized

>Did he really have enough merit to him for a girl as well-done as Rem to love him so much?
>Even now he had to wonder it. That said, he was simultaneously thinking that he'd have to become a man who matched up to that merit.

Basically he thinks of himself as a man not worthy of Rem. Not like it matters because he confessed to Rem twice and tried to kiss her, then sneaks into her room every night after arc 3. Since people keep getting confused as to what that confession really is in retrospect.
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>>158884746
The anime really fucked up what that confession was really about huh?
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>>158884740
Wasn't there something about her being invincible or something? Like even if you destroy her body she's still alive somehow? I totally forgot how it works but somehow she became powerful enough to escape death.
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>>158884740
She's literally immortal, so you can't kill her. And as long as Reinhard is in the blast radius your nuke will simply fail to detonate at all.
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>>158884793
That was a good way to make the anime more popular though so I kind of understand why they intentionally "fucked it up."
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>>158884614
You said we currently have nukes that dwarf her power. We don't. You could use more nukes, or you could use hypothetical weapons, but we don't currently have a single warhead that would match the destruction she caused let alone dwarf it.
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So since the atmosphere here seems to be lax we are able to discuss yes?
So we know that there is a third Oni that exists that has the same eyes as Rem, and that Capella has been doing some shady shit with them so what do you expect to happen knowing this info?
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>>158884746
Cant blame Subaru for prefering Emilia over the cuckold and murderous oni
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>>158884866
>Q: If you hit Reinhard with a tactical nuke, how would he deal with it?
>A: It wouldn’t go off.
Blessing of Arrow Avoidance is a helluva drug
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>>158884907
If you wanted to make the anime more popular they could have just included the ending of arc 3 as well as not mess up the Subaru/Rem relationship. Since the end of arc 3 is what got the readers hooked and got it an anime in the first place, or at least what caused the WN popularity to skyrocket.
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>>158849503
>nightmare that consumed an entire country.
Imagine what she could do to your dick. I won;t complain if she needs to wipe out a few species to get in the mood.
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>>158884938
We don't have details on it so its not really suitable for discussion, because the devil will be in the details. Like, yay for the Oni race I guess, except the only third survivor is also female so they're still basically SoL.
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>>158885001
Timestop Shadow Handjobs
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>>158885006
Yeah but trying to assasinate Rem in her sleep isn't something that isn't normal so.
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>>158884938
It all depends on what Capella poured down their ears. If I recall the description correctly, the description is something unpleasant about it creating a feeling of rejection. Not in her body, but in her soul.

2ch doesn't think it's dragon blood, because there aren't any physical marks, but it wasn't exactly poured into any wounds. Just their ears. So if anything's turned black, it'd just be their cute Oni brains.
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>>158881822
Actions talk louder than words in regards to Rem. While with Emilia he may be loud as fuck and acts a little douchey he is the exact opposite when it comes to Rem. Subaru has took the mantle of "Rem's hero" as his purpose for a reason, even if the only people who know his real motives being Petra, himself and the witches.
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>>158885155
>the description is something unpleasant about it creating a feeling of rejection. Not in her body, but in her soul.
That makes it sound like witch shit. Which I suppose makes a little sense as almost everything else that can detect witch stink is tied to witches. Puck, Betty, Lewes and mabeasts are witch creations, and there's the witches themselves. Outside of them its just Rem (and I guess the new girl) that can do it. I guess Pete can, but its unknown if he had that power before and its spirit related or tied to his Archbishopness and Satella obsession, though other Archbishops don't seem to be able to smell it.
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>>158884768
>Even now he had to wonder it. That said, he was simultaneously thinking that he'd have to become a man who matched up to that merit.
That's great to see Subaru realize his limitations and aim to improve himself and become better for the sake of others. I wonder if Subaru also feels that way towards Emilia.
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>>158885260
That actually reminds me of Echidna's tea and Subaru's reaction to it. What she gave him wasn't an Authority, but rather the Witch Factor that would allow him to use it. So, I'm currently wondering if it's possible Capella's Gospel assigned her to prepare an Oni girl to eventually receive an Authority.
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I think Subaru should forget both of them and choose the REAL best girl
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>>158885289
Sadly he does not, there was even a chapter in arc 4 where Otto points it out as to Subaru always regressing around Emilia.
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>>158848749
the anime made it seem like subarus primary motivation was the kindness and selflessness she showed toward him in the first episode, but i guess the manga has pretty much established it was some unhealthy fucked up obsession he had. kind of disappointing desu
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>>158876510
I feel that this would make a great comic.
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>>158885289
Subaru feels the exact opposite when it comes to Emilia, with her he becomes complacent and lazy, as per what arc 3 has signified at least.
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>>158885570
Arc 4 brings out a whole bunch of issues Subaru has from his early childhood, and explains why he was a neet.
Emilia showing him some human decency tripped 90% of his flags.
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>>158885398
She's extra dead and crispy, so I don't think that's going to work out.
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>>158885364
Now we're getting into 2ch Rem is/will be Pride territory.
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>>158885398
In the ayamatsu he did. Villainous characters are required to set a country on fire.
>To be concluded in only a short time, Elsa Granhiert's last blood meal.
>“—Fuck!”
>Subaru cannot die here.
>Averting his gaze from Elsa's battle and Meili's corpse, he breaks into a run down the hill.
>The spillovers of battle echo behind him, distant.
>Buildings collapse one after another throughout the blazing Capital, shrieks and wails echoing through. Children calling for parents, parents calling for children, men calling for women, women calling for men in the screeching pandemonium.
>Yes. This is what Subaru created.
>Created this hell, destroyed Reinhardt's false image, and achieved his goal.
What a wild ride
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>>158885636
does this mean he's reconsidering his commitment to emilia?
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>>158885364
>wasn't an Authority, but rather the Witch Factor that would allow him
It was some unspecified substance (outside of being Echidna's bodily fluids) that let him acclimatize to the factor he already had
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>>158885767
No not really, because of other factors and his greedy nature. There are cracks but its probably more to do with no progress being possible while circumstances are what they are. We'll see how he acts with the roadblock removed.
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>>158885597
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>>158885813
Thinking about it, there isn't really much difference as far as I can tell between an actual witch and the archbishops, except maybe the actual witches being more archetypal, so maybe Capella's 'bodily fluids' can have a similar effect. We know her blood does different fucked up stuff.
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>>158885767
Romantically? Possibly, though you can argue this stance. But as faction leader he is not.
We need Rem to revive to see what really happens, since she is the reason as to why Subaru doesn't want a romantic relationship yet.
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>>158885822
i like the layers complicating the story, i just really bought his motivation in the anime.
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How would one go about killing Reinhardt? Is it even feasible at all?
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>>158885942
You can't. Either he lets him kill you or he kills himself and trust me, Subaru has tried a number of times.
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>>158885942
You have to convince him to die, either allowing you to kill him or killing himself. Anything else and it won't work, and even if you manage some bullshit that does kill him he can come back.
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>>158885970
>>158885990
And the 'easiest' way to go about doing that is convincing the entire world that he needs to die and he will then acquiesce to the peer pressure and off himself or let you kill him.
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>>158885745
If only if Rem never met Subaru we could have had this Subaru instead
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>>158886033
The Echidna one has met Rem, and he's still butthurt about it.
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>>158886033
I love this picture so much, I want to see more of it.
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i really really really like felix
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>>158886058
But that one didn't set a country on fire
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>>158885970
>>158885990
Why is he so postgame-level OP again? I'd get it if he was simply overpowered but his supposed invincibility just makes me uncomfortable. I've heard he could go toe to toe with fucking Satella.
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>>158886078
I really want to see a gag chapter of all of them in a room one day.
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Remfags are mostly women. That includes me. Because it hits too close to home. You find a dorky guy you love who is on your level and he can't even see you that way because he's orbiting some stacy that wants nothing to do with him. And then he complains to you about being friendzoned and how women only want chad. All the while you are trying your best to be perfect wife material, but the other girl is hot so you might as well kys.
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>>158886182
We don't know. Since its mostly blessing related the best guess is that the world really, really likes him. Except we also know he could beat the thing that maybe hands out blessings. He inherited the Sword Saint Blessing, but its really almost irrelevant because the bulk of his power comes from the other billion blessings he has.
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>>158886182
The reason why he is OP is because Reinhardt is the hero of the story.
>I've heard he could go toe to toe with fucking Satella.
He'd probably be able to beat Satella
>>158886199
You really need to be less obvious when making bait
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>>158886244
>He'd probably be able to beat Satella
Nah, they fight to a draw. Keep in mind Satella is immortal, so being able to fight her to a draw means Reinhard isn't even getting touched.

Also Rem won a 2016 best character poll among Fujoshi with Yuri on Ice in the mix. Rem is scary.
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>>158886244
I wasn't baiting desu I was venting because I'm frustrated.
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>>158851311
She wanted equality if I recall correctly. She is a revolutionary schemer who wants to end everything good.
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>>158886356
She actually doesn't even want that. The anime broke down the speeches into really simplistic bite-sized chunks and more or less invented Emilia's 'motivation'

She's a terrible liar and she doesn't like doing it. She has no grand ambitions or plans for what she wants to do with a kingdom, she's doing it because a clown says it could maybe get her access to a thing that could unfreeze her village and then she can apologize to everyone for being shitty. That's pretty much it. Her bits about 'equality' are relating specifically to her in that she doesn't want the other candidates or the council to look down on her or write her off because she's a half-elf.
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>>158886199
>woman being friendzoned
is that more or less pathetic than a guy doing it? at least men can do things to become attractive, if you're born an ugly woman you don't have a chance
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>>158870226
Well that and Subaru killed both of her parents, if that isn't motivation enough if she ever finds out.
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>>158886556
Her parents were already dead, Subaru killed her maybe new dad and locked her maybe new mom in jail because killing her is a bad idea.
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>>158886622
Couldn't just someone who's invincible/immortal kill her? Just ask Reinhard to poke her a bit
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>>158886914
You can arrange it. I'm not sure if her power kills Reinhard and he revives or if he's just immune/resistant to it so he survives. You could also set up a trap that will kill her outside the effective range of her power or simply leave her somewhere far away to starve/dehydrate to death. Or if you're unscrupulous you could have a single sacrificial pawn.

There are ways to do it, but she's a good source of information, although not really that ideal since there's nothing you can really do to her without pain.
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>>158875162
>I have to ask, except for Pack and Subaru does anyone legitimately like her?

Yes, mainly after Arc 4. Before that most of them didn't even know her that well.
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>>158881885
>He spent a year researching leads, in

No he didn't. Subaru spent a year training.

>leading an expedition to save her.
It's not just to save her.

>>158885632
Except work as hard he did just to save her. When he became her Knight in Arc 4 he stated training and practicing eqieuittte to meet Emilia's expectations and that of his position. He tells his mom and dad in Echidna's dream world that Emilia is one of his two pillars that gives him a purpose.
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>>158887539
Oh fuck ESL found this thread again well time to take all chapter discussions elsewhere.
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>>158887585
Around when would LN spoilers come out?
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>>158887539
Yep, it was silly while it lasted, but to page 10 it goes.
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>>158886033
I wonder what would have happened to the Ayamatsu Subaru if he met with Rem. Think he'd have a mental breakdown as his pure and unadulterated love for Emilia shows a crack created by the blue oni?
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>>158887585
Who the fuck are you talking to?

>>158887843
Nothing. Rem and Subaru had no attraction to either until after arc 2. Rem at that point doesn't' care about anything that doesn't involve her sister and Rsowaal. Without Emilia who brought him to mansion where he took his job there is no opportunity to get know each other.

Basically their relationship as appears in the main story is too dependent on outside factors to work out like it did.
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Just checking but did everyone else find Subaru to be a braying jackass of an unlikable character?
The other characters all seem to be reasonable people that act in almost normal ways but Subaru acts as a turbo retard all the time.
Everyone else just accepts his misbehavior like it's enduring and encourages him to keep being stupid and inappropriate.

Is this some aspect of Jap cultural mindset they is being exercised?
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>>158888058
You're super exaggerating. He had his goofball moments and could be insensitive in the first 3 arcs but he was usually pretty reasonable and functional on a whole.Roswaal was more eccentric in comparison.
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>>158888058
>Everyone else just accepts his misbehavior like it's enduring and encourages him to keep being stupid and inappropriate.

Didn't that same misbehavior end up with Julius beating him to a bloody pulp, Emilia nagging at him, Ram bullying and Rem butchering? I'm an anime-only fag but isn't his current story-line one where Subaru looks more like an ultra-arrogant imbecile but who can actually do shit when is needed? I mean sure he acts like a real fucking NEET but at least he's been saving not only Emilia but also her village, her workers and even going as far as to put a dent on Emilia's confidence on Roswaal?.
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>>158888174
>but isn't his current story-line one where Subaru looks more like an ultra-arrogant imbecile but who can actually do shit when is needed
Pretty much
>Ram: “Timing. A man of only good timeliness, that is what Barusu is.”
>He's a man who is ordinarily useless, and you have no idea what role he could possibly serve—but nevertheless the character named Natsuki Subaru had a mysterious propensity to be at the places you wanted him in, at the times you wanted him there.
>When Emilia strayed away from Ram at the Capital, Subaru protected her in Ram's place.
>Wounded, he was taken to the mansion, and there came the ruckus with the witchbeasts. This again
concluded in Subaru saving both the village and the children, and he participated in exterminating the beasts. He was not the contributor of the greatest services, but his presence truly did help.
>When Emilia returned from the Capital and entrusted the mansion to Ram, and signs of unrest began to spread across the surrounding region, Subaru returned with a military unit in tow and beautifully repelled the danger.
>The man named Natsuki Subaru was a man with abnormally good timing.
>Ram found not a single appealing thing in him, and nothing sexually charming about him either.
>She had no idea as to what his good points were, and on occasions felt frustrated with him.
>Although she could not remember what it was that frustrated her, or what it was that was tugging at her.
>Regardless, Natsuki Subaru amounted to nothing more than that.
>Which was why for this affair, Ram would again—
>Ram: “It's safe to trust in the goodness of Barusu's timing. —Once Barusu thinks he's seen a chance, and so acts with that belief, that remains the only single method to salvage any victory.”
Probably some tsundere mixed in too though.
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>>158888058
>that pic
so meaty
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>>158890627
That's just mean
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>>158848749
no
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>>158885597
probably happened died and tried again with Rem this time.
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>>158886033
Why is Echidna If Subaru mad at Rem If Subaru? Doesn't the former also love Rem (or just care about her since he's seemingly lost his sanity and capability of truly loving someone) and is actively looking for a cure for her coma?
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>>158885852
Well, that's my point. Subaru's "physiology" seems to have been altered in some way so it could handle the Witch Factor, and just having the power sitting inside you isn't enough. I'm suggesting here that Rem wasn't given an Authority, but that she was altered so that she could receive one at a later date.

Capella doesn't know which Oni it'll be, so she chose multiple just to be on the safe side.
>>158885731
I'm not saying its Pride. The Witch Cult has cycled through Archbishops before, so it makes sense that Gospels might help choose potential successors and replacements.
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>>158896586
He obviously thinks Rem IF Subaru is a coward who would just hide behind his wife, and is too scared to die. At the age he is in that picture, that'd be half-true at best. He's definitely terrified of dying, but he's not a coward about it.

I mean, when do you think his reset point might be? He knows the hell that awaits him.
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Hey guys, remember when I was talking about cut lines from certain scenes, like the one about Subaru continuing to be Rem's hero? And some guy saying Japanese fans probably wouldn't care?

I decided to actually look at the twitter discussion for the book, only to find that someone had probably noticed that change before me and was already complaining.

https://twitter.com/shikenx/status/875900199729856512
https://twitter.com/shikenx/status/875895350313267201
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>>158897193
I think his reset point is at the same time it used to be, during Arc 3 in front of Rem and Kadomon.

Imagine him dying of old age alongside his kids and grandkids, with Rem sobbing at the bedside that he was betraying her wish for her to die first, and as he dies, he wakes up some decades in the past.

That would cement it as a bad end and a true deterrent against running away from problems.
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>>158897193
Rigel would get fucked if Subaru dies and returns to a checkpoint set at a time when Rigel isn't conceived yet. He might no longer exist if that's the case.
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>>158897693
There's actually a fanfiction one-off about it. The author gave a hopeful tone, but I still thought it was cool.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12158480/1/IF-Once-more-from-zero
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>>158898106
And fuck off. General impressions tend to be simplified. When I'm nitpicking, I look for other nitpickers who will specify exactly what they liked or disliked. A book review site only tells you if something is good. People actually discussing the work in a more open forum will tell you what they think could have been better.
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Speaking of volume 13, has the LN and WN differences document been updated?
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>>158897585
That doesn't really change anything. Only a few obsessed Remfags while majority of fans have been positive on the LN.

Here some v13 impressions fro example:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E3%83%AA%E3%82%BC%E3%83%AD13%E5%B7%BB%E6%84%9F%E6%83%B3?src=hash

https://bookmeter.com/books/11881865

Hell the one of most positive impression is from another Remfag. So yeah I don't think the majority fans give a shit. They are obessed who wining the some meta as anon here are.
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>>158898232
That's irrelevant and makes no sense anyway This is still the opinion of the majority and where the money coming from. Fags like you who only care about one specific thing mean shit to Tappei. You better dropping the series and going elsewhere if that's your attitude cause this reality.
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>>158898293
So where does everyone read the WN or LN translation? is it on madokami?
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>>158898622
https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
Read the available Arc 3 Interludes and Arc 4 chapters on TranslationChicken, and when you run out, move to anon. You can buy the LN from stores.
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>people is willing to eat shit
breaking news
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>>158898293
It just came out. Give it a couple of days.
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>>158897693
>Rem sobbing at the bedside that he was betraying her wish for her to die first
Do onis have shorter or longer lifespan than human beings? They are stronger, faster, and tougher so I think they might as well live longer.
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Why are there so little Emilia guro on sadpanda.
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>>158898317
Dude, book review sites aren't where common discussion is held, and certainly not where people discuss their particular gripes.

I have seen places where the attitude is different, and where the discussion is every bit as meta and actually shittier than it is here. I have seen waifuwars waged in moonrunes, in just as offensive a manner as is done here. People discuss things differently in different places.
>>158898440
I care about quite a few things. I don't really care if that means shit to Tappei. I care if it means shit to the people who care. If the general impression is positive, that's fine. I like to look at the specific impressions of specific scenes.

"It was good" or "it was bad" means nothing to me. I want to see the specifics of what they liked or disliked. Some people go into that, and some people don't. I don't get why you're so offended when people talk about things they find questionable.
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>>158898827
Guro goes to Rem in MU. Worst Emilia'll get is mindbreak.
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>>158898864
Oh, and just found something on 2ch about Emilia and Roswaal's conversation being cut.
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>>158899025
After Garfiel vs Emilia, right?
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>>158898827
I am surprised that no one buy that エミレム惨殺CG集 by akumaster.
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>>158899090
The one about turning lies to wishes.
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>>158899025
I'm a Remfag but that was one of her best scenes in the entire arc. What the hell.
This is starting to get really silly.
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>>158898815
Onis have human lifespans
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>>158898864
>Dude, book review sites aren't where common discussion is held

Right. The point of these sites to give their opinion and impression of the work in question. These from people have bought the books and telling their friends to to by books. Their imprssions aren't adhering to what you want so discrediting. If the majority of people were hating the work and the changes work you would be parroting anything they say and attributing to Rem not being catered to even more in the narrative. So don't even pull that horseit. This series selling and gathering acclaim with or without her.

>I have seen places where the attitude is different, and where the discussion is every bit as meta and actually shittier than it is here. I have seen waifuwars waged in moonrunes, in just as offensive a manner as is done here. People discuss things differently in different places.

There are places like for any series, it doesn't mean they matter. Those places are also bashing the WN to begin with and even accused Tappei of plagiarism with no basis.

>I care about quite a few things. I don't really care if that means shit to Tappei. I care if it means shit to the people who care. If the general impression is positive, that's fine. I like to look at the specific impressions of specific scenes.

Many of these readers are mentioning specific scenes in these impressions, this isn't much of an excuse. They have certainly gone a bit more in depth these those two links you posted. Honestly if you have search for negative impressions in a sea of positive ones that should tell you are just cherrying picking desperately to subvert reality.

>"It was good" or "it was bad" means nothing to me

Except most of impressions aren't written like that. Especially the ones on bookmeter.
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>>158898864
What did we tell you about replying to ESL anon? It never ends well and it kills threads and discussion, just sage and hope he goes away so we can finally talk about stuff like arc 5
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>>158899601
I second this. ESL is retarded so whoever argues with him is also retarded.
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>>158899233
Most of the Japanese don't seem to care though from what I've seen. Their too busy talking about how awesome Otto is, how good the Emilia and Subaru fight and subsequent kiss was in the graveyard or liking Garfiel all better after his trial.

Some of them are even saying this is the best volume so far. So the changes are affecting much at all.
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So do you think anything will come out of that oculus proposal?
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>>158899601
>>158899672
Says the retards who believe Rem is wining. You guys have been shitting up threads from the very start so your one to talk.
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>>158899601
It never ends well is more like it just never ends, we are talking about the same guy who contused lust for love as legitimate and though elementary schoolers being friends as some adult love story. The man is a walking wall, who makes the same arguments and asking for quotes of chapters that have been discussed to death over a year ago.
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>>158899747
Unlikely. Kadokawa probably have their own long term plans for this series and their aren't gonna just drop them to include some millionaire. Money isn't' an issue for them.
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>>158899601
Yeah, I decided it's not worth it. I'll just hide his posts from now on. Anyhow, I saw this post listing changes.

印象に残った改変は

・ロズっちとの契約をしなかった点
・ガーフが最初からリューズが複数いると知ってた点
・オットーが姉様を説得する下りのオールカット
・パックソがお別れの言葉を告げたこと
・殴り合いせずにガーフが獣化したこと

この辺かな
カットされた部分は部分で好きだったけど
これもまた良し

Something about Otto persuading Nee-sama was cut entirely, no contract is formed with Roswaal, Garfiel already knows there are multiple Lewes's, Puck actually says goodbye, and something about the fistfight with Garf is different.
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>>158899767
>Says the retards who believe Rem is wining
Oh this is rich
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>>158899783
>It never ends well is more like it just never ends, we are talking about the same guy who contused lust for love as legitimate and though elementary schoolers being friends as some adult love story.

Spoken by the same idiots who think Suabru he only loves Rem even when tells you to your face. Yeah, you're right. It never ends well with delusion fuck grasping at straws and can't face reality of their shipping being a second string.

> asking for quotes of chapters that have been discussed to death over a year ago.

>asking for quotes of chapters that have been discussed to death over a year ago.

Pffft, I'm the one who has been giving you quotes. You actually dismiss them. Pathetic.
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>>158899931
>Garfiel already knows there are multiple Lewes's

Yep, you see this in volume 12.
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>>158899931
>no contract is formed with Roswaal
Isn't this really fucking stupid considering the clown knows he can reset?
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>>158900200
I don't mean the basic clones. In the original, Garf didn't know there was more than one Granny Lewes.
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I want a story about Ferri bullying Subaru.
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>>158900244
Well, I don't know how it handles that, but that's what people seem to be saying. No contract with Roswaal.
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>>158900244
yeah, that shit is stupid. hopefully he just understood it wrong
>>158900250
I thought he was only ignorant on Omega's existence? Hell, there's a Lewes that identifies herself to Subaru as Lewes Shima in one of the loops right in front of Garfiel
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1/4) いやー、今回も面白かった! web版からそれぞれの行動の理由が補強されて更に物語に入り込めるようになった印象。 そんな物語を彩る挿絵もあとがきにあるように男性メインが多めで、特に309Pの笑顔が眩しい!

(2/4) 目まぐるしく変わる視点でそれぞれのキャラがそれぞれの活躍をして、皆が主役のような輝きを放っていると感じた。そんな彼らの活躍も熱いシーン、絶望的なシーン色々あるけど熱量は衰えず、日中リゼロを求めて歩き回った疲れも忘れて読み進める手が止まらなかった

(3/4) 三章のタイトルとか264P最初の方のスバルのセリフ、ついでに「今一歩の〜」といった「おお!」と言ってしまう部分が所々あってその度に顔がニヤけるのを抑えられなかった。

(4/4) 「嫌なら、よけろ」 スバルが男を見せて疑いようのない方法で自分の想いを伝えるこの場面はweb版から好きで、あまり大きな変更はなかったように感じるけど挿絵が入って嬉しかったしより一層好きになった
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>>158900244
Rsowaal is also incredibility arrogant in both the LN and WN. He didn't have to abide by the contract at all. Even Emilia points out that as from one with Spirits ones between mortals are non binding. He thought Subaru could escape no matter what regardless.
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>>158899931
Here is to hoping that they still keep a semblance of those scenes or just rearranging o events.
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>>158900340
>I thought he was only ignorant on Omega's existence? Hell, there's a Lewes that identifies herself to Subaru as Lewes Shima in one of the loops right in front of Garfiel
Yes, but that's in the LN. That doesn't happen in the WN, which is why Garf thinks Lewes is possibly going senile. Because she "forgets" things.
>yeah, that shit is stupid. hopefully he just understood it wrong
It's a very short sentence. Half-assed translation here.
>ロズっちとの契約をしなかった
Contract with Ros-chi wasn't made.
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>>158900534
But Roswaal deliberately made it a soulbound magical contract, like the one he had with Ram.
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>>158900340
> thought he was only ignorant on Omega's existence? Hell, there's a Lewes that identifies herself to Subaru as Lewes Shima in one of the loops right in front of Garfiel

Yes, it happens in volume 11.
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>>158900579
Right, but the idea for the contract was initially brought to him Subaru which he took up out of arrogance. Considering if Subaru succeeded the the soulbound part wouldn't matter. So Tappei just keep at a bet instead since it was still a long-shot. That's my reasoning.

I'm also guessing that he doesn't even know that Subaru can't take the trial anymore because Subaru never tells him which probably plays a part in that.
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>>158900872
I suppose it could turn out a number of way. I'm also wondering what the implications are for Puck saying goodbye. No Emilia tantrum?
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>>158900244
No contract with Roswaal means no more "Subaru kissed Emilia because he was desperate and didn't want to lose bet against Roswaal" narrative ha.
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>>158901296
Didn't he make a bet anyway?
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>>158901296
It was stupid narrative to begin with and only made any sense if Subaru wasn't in love with her and didn't seriously want her to be King even though he's been throwing his all throughout the arc to make that happen.

The primary reason he insisted that Emilia be the one to finish the trials was because he believe she could do it and to prove Roswaal wrong about her. He doesn't see her or Garfiel as tools for short term gains.
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>>158901779
this is borderline strawman

the argument always was that the fact that he needed to kiss her because of the circumstances masks how much is his conviction about actually having a romantic relationship with her
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>>158902220
The circumstances where he kissed her are irrelevant when he would have done so given the chance. If he weren't in love with her he wouldn't have done it anyway. So this just splitting hairs for no reason. The whole thing at Sanctuary only has any real meaning to Subaru if benefits Emilia and brings them closer which it does.

This just a shallow (bad) argument for people who don't want believe the story supports them.
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>>158898317
You said literally no one complains and the entire Japanese fanbase doesn't care. He only really needs one person to prove you wrong because you stupidly spoke in absolutes.
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>>158899857
Dunno, when someone asked him about it again he said that good things take time, so he can't have been completely rebuffed.
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>>158900244
I dunno, I felt the contract was confusing because it seemed pretty ambiguous whether they were binding or not. I've never seen anything that seemed to indicate a contract actually did much of anything, and there was a thing were Emilia basically said they don't really matter but are important anyway. Just a bit confusing.
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>>158904206
I never said that nor would anybody talk like that. Most=/=None. Please take your strawman and shove up your ass.
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>>158901296
Literally never anyone's argument. He still makes the bet.
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>>158904384
Yeah, I remember Emilia near the beginning of Arc 4 implying that their of an honor thing. It's only with Spirits where bad things supernatural happen when they are broken.
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>>158848749
Considering how stupid the love interests develop in this series i can't blame that shit character for going for the prettiest, mos exotic girl, especially since she's so kind and boring.
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>>158904384
There are different kinds of contracts. Some are just verbal. Some are actually magic. Ram's contract is actually backed by magic. She literally can't properly defy Roswaal until the terms allow her to.

On the other hand, Rem's contract with Roswaal is purely verbal. She can do whatever she wants. She just made a promise.
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>>158904562
Other than special cases anyway.
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>>158904562
>It's only with Spirits where bad things supernatural happen when they are broken.

Isn't it implied by Otto that contracts with magicians can also cause shit to get fucked in some way?
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>>158904763
Yeah there was some talk about it, but it seemed to go against what Emilia was saying earlier. And then we never really see the results of any of that so its just weird. There's also the weird assumption that the contract would persist through RbD which is never confirmed nor denied. Maybe Tappei decided that it wouldn't persist through a reset so Roswaal doesn't bother?
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>>158904590
not to mention shes the only one that hasnt tried to violently murder him
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>>158904384
There are literally lines talking about how the contract with Roswaal was special, something that would cling to the soul and perhaps not even RBD could negate it. Ram specifically makes mentions of how she's sure the Gospel has failed, because her contract isn't stopping her from defying Roswaal.

There were even suggestions that these kinds of contracts can even manipulate the personality and attitude of those who have made them, which was why Roswaal was surprised that Ram still loved him after the contract was broken.
>>158904763
Pretty sure he says it outright. I'm pretty sure there was a description of Roswaal doing some magic shit to seal the contract with Subaru, in case people forgot about that.
>>158904910
>but it seemed to go against what Emilia was saying earlier.
Maybe Emilia doesn't know everything and had no reason to bring up the subject of special magic contracts that no one uses anymore. Where is the contradiction?

The purpose of the contract is that it gives people a way to trust Roswaal. His actions are now limited by that contract, however he may twist the terms.
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>>158904968
Betty hasn't tried to violently murder him, just gave him the ol' sucky sucky when they first met.
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>>158904297
Maybe, but it just sounds pretty unrealistic. And honestly in terms of enriching the story overall money would be better spent on the actual side stories that contribute to the plot tangibly. The Rem IFs are ultimately there for Rem herself, does little to expand the backstories of established characters nor provide any foreshadowing of future events. They work better as bonus novels that might get a manga adaptation.
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>>158905113
>nor provide any foreshadowing of future events
But they literally do. Now we know it's extremely likely that Capella pissed in Rem's ears.
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>>158905113
>nor provide any foreshadowing of future events.
Yeah about that
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>>158904910
>Maybe Tappei decided that it wouldn't persist through a reset so Roswaal doesn't bother?
That'd be weird since there are heavy implications that RbD makes Subaru's soul travel through time(lines?). Given the contract between Roswall and Subs had been inscribed into each one's souls, it would definitely persist even if Subs redos thousands of times.
The contract itself could be a small plothole in later arcs in the WN, hence why he could also have ditched it altogether.

>>158905113
>does little to expand the backstories of established characters nor provide any foreshadowing of future events
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>foreshadowing that Capella did something to select onis that enable them to smell witch, an ability that few select characters can do
>foreshadowing that Hoshin was not a normal person, but another isekai'd
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PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUUUUUUUSE TONIGHT
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>>158904590
>TD;DR People have different tastes

Okay.

>>158905040
>Maybe Emilia doesn't know everything and had no reason to bring up the subject of special magic contracts that no one uses anymore. Where is the contradiction?

Vows are Spirit User's lifeline. She would most certainly know the most about contracts. Besides she didn't say every contract besides spiritual ones were non binding. Just that people also from pledges even like a normal promise.

>>158904910
I think Tappei realize that contract and bet where essentially achieving the same thing. If Suabru lost after this loop he more likely would have given up anyway because no matte how effort he put in he couldn't see a way out. If he won the soulbound contract wouldn't even matter anyway.
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>>158905294
EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME
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>>158905453
>If he won the soulbound contract wouldn't even matter anyway.
The contract was part of convincing Roswaal that he could get something tangible from this loop, and also placing restrictions on Roswaal's future behavior.
>>158905453
>Vows are Spirit User's lifeline. She would most certainly know the most about contracts.
Insofar as they were relevant to her practices. Making magic contracts with other people is different then with spirits.
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>>158905453
>>158905599
fucking cringe
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>>158905599
>The contract was part of convincing Roswaal that he could get something tangible from this loop, and also placing restrictions on Roswaal's future behavior.
Yeah, seems a bit weird he's riding on Subaru's best behavior, although like the other guy said maybe he places a lot more faith in Subaru just giving up and he's not really concerned about it because he expects Subaru to show up to him as a broken man eventually. Need specifics on how the scene was rewritten I guess.
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>>158905162
Tappei says we are not going to Kararagi or anything other country so whatever makes into MU will most likely be minor. Crusch and Wilhelm's stories are more important because it actually deals with stuff that happened in Lugnica.

>>158905239
>>158905113
Most of that is learned in MU and Hoshin is literally just lore. Subaru has already speculated he might have been earth in Arc 5. And very few people will be watching the Rem IF for that anyway, even fewer will remember those details.

I dunno the series just something you in for SoL with Rem and Subaru.
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>>158905838
Arc 7 will involve foreign agents. It's as relevant as any random backstory stuff might be.
>>158905239
>>foreshadowing that Capella did something to select onis that enable them to smell witch, an ability that few select characters can do
So, what do we actually know about this part so far? Capella seems to have modified some Oni, while largely ignoring others. Whatever she does to them, it's mentioned as fucking with their souls. We don't know when it was done to Rem, since she has no memories after seeing Ram's horn cut off. However, she does show the same symptoms, and the Capella scene is largely irrelevant in the IF's events unless it's meant to connect to Rem.

So, Capella probably did something to Rem, perhaps in a similar way to the bodily fluid shit Echidna did to Subaru. At the same time, Aldebaran seems to have a particular discomfort with Rem, but not Ram, suggesting he probably knows what was done to her and it makes him uncomfortable.
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What's the chance that Subaru will confess to Satella and they live happily ever after ?
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>>158906162
As of now, absolutely fucking none
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>>158905239
>foreshadowing that Capella did something to select onis that enable them to smell witch, an ability that few select characters can do
But why blue eyed onis only? What's so special about those blue eyes when a bunch of other girls in the series also have them just like Rem?
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>>158905599
>The contract was part of convincing Roswaal that he could get something tangible from this loop, and also placing restrictions on Roswaal's future behavior

With how arrogant was Roswaal was during this whole thing does it matter? The bet would have been no more more than formality to him of an inescapable trap. The only thing would worry him is if Subaru couldn't do the trials which would cause him to act more carefully. I'm guessing unlike the WN Subaru doesn't tell him so he still thinks things will go as pre-ordained no matter what he does.
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>>158906307
Because muh gospel. That's all we can really say about it right now until Capella and Subaru and possibly even Rem meet in the MU.
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>>158906307
Probably the Gospel being vague. Or it could have just been Oni children, and those were the only ones who weren't crippled. The only other Oni child has red eyes, so the instructions saying "get the one with blue eyes" would basically just exclude Ram.
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>>158905838
>Just blatantly ignores the stuff involving Rem that is going to come up regarding Al, the Iron Fangs, and the Witch Cult in a later arc
It's all just wafuu and wasou, nobody cares right. There's no way foreign agents from Kararagi might take an interest in the Selection, its not like someone from Kararagi is running or anything.
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>>158906076
This is plausible and nice but if was actually important it would be MU anyway. I mean everything you need to know about Wilhelm is already in the MU, he sidestory just expands on it.
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>>158906186
Subaru might not, but his boner will, and it doesn't take that long for it to get a happy ending.
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>>158906518
So then it probably will be in the MU. It's just not ready to be fully revealed yet. However, it definitely has foreshadowing for the MU.
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>>158906455
I said nothing about anything that might happen MU, so I don't know what in world you going on about.

Tappei hasn't forced anyone to read random side stories to get the bead on what's going on so why suddenly happened now? You can even ignore the stuff with Liliana before she appears properly the story.
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>>158906644
I suppose
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>>158906711
>side-stories can't foreshadow

wow, it's like you're being particularly obtuse
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>>158906844
Well, why else would they put Capella in the story, if there wasn't some relevance to it? For whatever reason, we've got this odd Rem subplot building up that has absolutely nothing to do with just waking her up. And it's been set up from very early in the story.
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>>158907113
Oh, its ESL, nevermind then. Just another poor attempt to say nothing Rem is in matters, foreshadows, or has relevance from the guy who swears up and down he never does that.
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>Q: Out of the extra chapters that you’ve written up to this point, are there any characters that will appear in the main story?
>A: Pretty much all of them will appear.

I want to believe
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>>158907843
>The stuff with Capella just sounds like her usually random fuckery, like turning people into flies or experiment with her on Subaru and Crusch.
It's not. "Quota/assignment complete!" is not "I'm just randomly fucking around with Oni for no reason". They specifically seem to have targeted Oni.
>She already basically made peace with that part of her history.
None of which prevents it from coming back to bite her in the ass. If Capella is relying on the Gospel and has multiple possible candidates who could fit the description, she might just expect the right ones would survive.
>>158907487
What would the implications be if Rem actually were selected as a potential replacement Bishop?
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I need chibi Rems and Emilias quick
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>>158908043
So wait wait wait, Raze, Tia and Halibel will show up in the MU then?
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>>158908043
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>>158908184
>>158908043
WAIT DOES THIS MEAN RIGEL AND SPICA WILL BECOME CANON
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>>158908065
Why are you even arguing with the idiot. This is a guy who said the Emilia backstory must be much more important and plot relevant than any stupid Rem one simply because it has Emilia in it so it must be better. Then he torpedoed his own statement by getting into a stupid discussion about Puck's foreshadowing and looked up on the wiki for the underwhelming answer to the circumstances behind Puck's contract and declared victory without a single hint of irony.

>This Emilia stuff is so much more important but despite not knowing what's in it it must be so because muh Emilia
>It could even tell you stuff about Puck!
>What, you actually care about what Puck is on about, nobody in Japan does, they all love the LN changes and nobody complains
>Here, the super secret Puck stuff in the Emilia backstory I looked up on the wiki is underwhelming, don't you feel stupid now!
>Emilia backstory still must be so much more important and have such better world building and secrets than some stupid Rem novel
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>>158908246
he said pretty much all of them

that gives room for them to be excluded, plus there would be no time for Subaru and Rem to get busy in the main story. Tappei said the real ride hasn't even started
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>>158908184
They might. Halibel has at least been mentioned in passing in the MU, and with the timing of the MU vs the Rem IF they're quickly coming up on the timeframe Raze is active in.
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>>158908410
Raze would only become active once Rem gets unpotatoed.
Maybe that's what's the dramatic twist to her waking up. Raze is active and just remembered her existence, so she goes to kill her. And ties in to Meili's attack in Arc 2 and Arc 4.
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>>158908328
It gave me an opportunity to say thing I already wanted to say.
>>158908511
Why would Reize want to kill the potato?
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>>158908511
Does she know Rem beforehand? I thought she was just aggroing on Subaru and Rem doesn't like that.
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>>158908328
>Emilia backstory
Woudn't that have loli Emilia in teenage body? Hopefully she has still has some attitude left, I liked the brat in the flashbacks
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>>158908549
>Why would Reize want to kill the potato?
Same reason why she's been trying to kill the potato in Rem IF I think?
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>>158908549
>>158908599
Because she's close to someone who reeks of witch, and Raze does seem to have a huge grudge against the Witch Cult much like Rem used to.

Then again, I'm basing this off pretty much nothing since there's a lot we don't know about the Rem IF novel that Remon is (thankfully) translating.
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>>158908623
They murder a friendly monkey spirit or something.
>>158908696
Because she's pregnant with Witch babies?
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>>158908879
If Raze's goal is to kill as many Witch Cultists as possible, why didn't she just move to Lugnica from the beginning because there seems to be way more of those fuckers in Lugnica than in a peaceful town in Kararagi?
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>>158909165
The weakest Archbishop is probably Subaru.
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>>158909165
They normally don't concentrate their activity in Lugnica. It's weird that they've been doing that recently.
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>>158908410
I some of them will be mentioned, but the story being set mainly in Luginca limit a lot. Heck we still don't even know everything about this country there is till a wealth of stuff address.
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>>158908065
>It's not. "Quota/assignment complete!" is not "I'm just randomly fucking around with Oni for no reason". They specifically seem to have targeted Oni.

Were in my post did I say they didn't?

I said Rem wasn't specific targeted. If the did why Witch Cult member TRY TO KILL HER?

Infact why slaughter everyone at all?

And yes Capella is known for experimenting and doing shits for fun and giggles according to WN readers.

>None of which prevents it from coming back to bite her in the ass. If Capella is relying on the Gospel and has multiple possible candidates who could fit the description, she might just expect the right ones would survive.

Which could happen but it is all presumptions at the moment.

>What would the implications be if Rem actually were selected as a potential replacement Bishop?

I think there would be hints by now such as star name if that was the case. Besides you can't replace an Archbishop. They are define by and created compatibly with the Witch Gene. As long as Subaru still around nobody looks to be getting any.

>>158908328
Jesus fucking Christ will you shut up? Are you 3 or something? Just because a salty Remfag doesn't mean said any of shit you claimed I did. Even now I have not once insult Rem but then you go pull this victim complex bullshit. Take your insecure ass elsewhere, I'm done talking to an ingrate.
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>>158910490
okay ESL
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>>158848749
Ram is better than Emilia and Rem.
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>>158910490
>If the did why Witch Cult member TRY TO KILL HER?
If Rem couldn't survive until the day she's appointed as the new Sin Archbishop then she's not suitable for that seat. That's how they narrow down the number of suitable candidates I think.
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>>158911054
Haha no.
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>>158911094
That's how I reason it out. The Witch Cult Gospels are vaguer and more flexible, but they presumably still only need one Oni. Chances are Capella's assignment or quota didn't say jack shit about what to do with them afterwards.

Also, the Witch Cult is extremely disorganized. Some people were there just because they wanted to smell Oni burn, and that guy wasn't even an actual Witch Cultist.
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>>158909165
They were only in Lugnica to kill Emilia. Guess what already happened.
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>>158911094
That seems to have been only Petegeuse's way of doing thing though. It seems be special case.

The other Archbishop outside Regulus say anything about how tested for Gene beyond whether reacts to you or not.

>>158911353
I feel like it was just a pet project for Capella like Regulus whole wife collection thing.
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>>158911353
>Also, the Witch Cult is extremely disorganized. Some people were there just because they wanted to smell Oni burn, and that guy wasn't even an actual Witch Cultist.
This. Whatever Capella is doing is not necessarily related to anything else the cult does. Regulus will kill any other cultist or even Pandora as his whimsy. Sirius hates the Gluttonies and sells them out. Only Pete even cares about the trial thing, and the rest have selfish reasons.
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>>158911742
Seriously, just fuck off retard, you have nothing to add.
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>>158911742
>I feel like it was just a pet project for Capella like Regulus whole wife collection thing.
Why introduce a completely meaningless plot point? Why does she refer to it as an assignment? Why create Oni who can smell the Witch Scent, and would no doubt be filled with thoughts of vengeance?
>>158911837
My guess is that it's related to her Gospel, since she'd have needed to track down Oni who were living in very obscure regions. There's probably relevance to it, but Capella might not even know the reasons herself.
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>Shitmilia
No
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I disliked Emilia at first, but now that the dust has settled, I can see now that she is great.

If Beatrice is the Shinobu of Reddit:Zero, then Emilia is the Senjougahara and Rem is Hachikuji.
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The fact of Reize having the same eye color of Rem is explicitly pointed out.

What if Capella's actions happened because her gospel told her to inject the ting in a blue-eyed oni? (the undisclosed gospel's agenda being to inject it to Rem)
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>>158911916
It's not a plot point though. It's most likely lore related. If we're you think would be introduced in the main series much eariler like the rest of foundational concepts like Al's mysterious nature and connection to the Rem or Ram.
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>>158911916
It seems weird because its really tangential to what she seems to be on about normally. Its hard to see how it ties to her happiness, which is the reason the archbishops to do stuff.
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>>158912141
>Arc 2's conflict revolves around her being to smell the witch scent which is then confirmed to be basically unique to her as a person
>They never mentioned it at all before, it's not important, its nothing, why would you think it matters, just a random lore bit with no relevance, never going to come up
Seriously, fucking kill yourself.
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>>158912141
>introduced in the main series much eariler
When would be convenient, without spoiling important details? We have the plot point that Rem can smell the Witch, and she has no idea why. It's not a normal Oni ability. That's where the first hints come in. Then we have this thing with Al. This Capella scene is just a clue as to where to look, but it doesn't explain the purpose of it.
>>158912166
It's kind of obvious that the Gospels serve to do more than instruct their users on how to be happy.
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>>158912228
Why don't you shut fuck up and contribute something you addle as brain piece of shit? All you have done is insult fucking people posted shit not only does anyone who read any version of story know about, but fucking little.

Capella muddling with their senses in one unrelated incident that is never brought up in the main up to this point doesn't she fucking grand scheme in mind.

Foreshadowing doesn't work retroactively.
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>>158912358
The point is that not everybody is going to be interested in reading the Rem IF all this detail is sashed away. If this critical to understanding anything the future than that is bad writing on Tappei's part. The Echidna IF also contains some important, but some of it at least I produced in the series first like the Dragon Blood being some miracle agent.

That's why I'm skeptical here.
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>>158912638
He literally brought up relevant information to show that this plot point has been hinted at since the 2nd Arc, and has had additional clues piled atop it to suggest that it's something that will be further explored in the MU. And you have the gall to claim he didn't contribute anything?
>>158912872
Nothing in the sidestories is critical to understanding anything either.
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>>158913020
He brought a plot point relating to something main series has not once hinted at, retroactively. That means shit and none of the foreshadowing has worked like that so far.

Not. A. Single. One.

If something big does happen with you dance all you like about it and be like I told you so!

But just some personal shit Capella was you can fuck off. I've brought plenty reason information, just because it doesn't support your argument doesn't it's contribution. That not how discussion works.
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>>158912872
>Dragon Blood being some miracle agent.
Subaru has some Dragon AIDS in his blood, doesn't he? He should try cutting himself to get his blood and making Rem drink it. Maybe it will work and Rem will wake up.
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>>158913020
>Nothing in the sidestories is critical to understanding anything either

Which is exactly why you need not lend on these so hard. There lots stuff in these sidestorirs that connect to main series, but are only really revalant in the MU.

If all this stuff is introduced in the main storyline down the line fine. Otherwise it's just miscellaneous knowledge. That sounds entirely fair to me.
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>>158913838
I think Capella's black dragon blood is apparently different from Volcania's
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>>158913829
>something main series has not once hinted at, retroactively.
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>>158914025
revalant in the MU.

I mean *AU
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>>158913829
You've literally contributed nothing besides incomprehensible english. And no, you haven't even read the fucking third Arc. The main series has indeed specifically noted her ability to smell the Witch being unusual and mysterious in origin. So he's actually entirely right to bring it up. It is our first clue that there's something strange up with Rem. Al is our second clue. The IF story provides us with a third.

There's nothing "retroactive" here, but I guess that means you misunderstood someone's point because you assume everyone else besides you is retarded.
>>158914025
>Otherwise it's just miscellaneous knowledge. That sounds entirely fair to me.
You really have no way to sort data, do you? This is a clue that adds to a few other clues that were dropped, while still leaving room for it to be properly explained later.

You just come across as an asshole who gets annoyed whenever people are interested in discussing or reading things you aren't. You actively seem to try to kill speculation and discussion.
>>158914135
It's not even slightly relevant to the plot of the AU.
>>158914098
2ch doesn't seem entirely sure, last I saw them discussing the matter. There were some debates over what caused Capella's blood to react as it did.
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>>158914127
Um what are trying to say? Rem and any oni van smell the Witch's Miasma as can spirits like Betty. We know about this because introduced in Arc 2 long before Arc 3.
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>>158914127
Also mentioned in a Q&A that it's not just something people are born with.
>>158914264
>and any oni
They can't. That's the point that people have been trying to drill in here.

Oni can't normally smell Miasma.
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>>158914264
>any oni van smell the Witch's Miasma
This girl can't. Otherwise, arc 2 would've been a lot tougher for Subaru.
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>>158914264
>Rem and any oni van smell the Witch's Miasma
Nope, looks like you haven't read shit yet again. Rem's power is unique among people who are not intimately tied to witches. And you don't think that's foreshadowing or weird, because you are a fucking idiot who has read nothing.
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>>158914205
Okay it seems like your entirely incapable of handling anything opposed to your opinion and massive circlejerk or they don't contribute. Instead of at least agreeing to disagree and letting story fucking play out to see if not just a minor plot point you act all defensive like child over a hill that isn't worth dying on.

You can screw off.
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Are the fucking translated light novels past the anime yet
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>>158914462
No
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>>158914529
HOLY FUCK HOW.
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>>158914439
You can't prove considering her state.

>>158914454
>>158914316
Nothing in the series has outright claimed this. If there is any passage that literally says only Rem can smell the miasma please post. I don't want conjecture.
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>>158914316
>Oni can't normally smell Miasma.
Oh, and this is mentioned in Arc 3 of the WN, by the way. It's in Rem's internal monologue about her ability. Her best guess was that she somehow acquired a mutation after the Witch Cult attacked her village.
>>158914460
Do you have any self awareness at all?
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>>158914529
Not him but what is the release date for the next volume?
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>>158914597
>Nothing in the series has outright claimed this.
Confirmed for not reading Arc 3. Rem has an internal monologue about this very subject.
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>>158914634

October 31
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>>158914553
I honestly don't know
>>158914634
October 31st
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>>158914597
Plus though Meili and witchbeasts we know that having horns related to sensing the for non spirits.
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>>158914597
Ram couldn't smell miasma even before losing her horn, is something peculiar to Rem and fery few elses
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>>158914553
The LNs 1-9 are still worth to read though. The anime skipped all kinds of things.
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>>158914529
That is so fucking pathetic.
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>>158914750
All of the Dogs in Arc 2 had their horns broken, something explicitly mentioned in both WN and LN. They all still reacted to the scent.
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>>158914786
I will eventually but I really don't want to just hit the same wall as the anime did. At this point I'm better off just learning Japanese since that will be faster apparently.
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>>158914750
Witchbeasts who lost their horn can sense the miasma anyway and Ram could not sense it even with the horn

so no the horn is not the crux
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>>158914553
>>158914634
>>158914815
LN Volumes 1-9 are still worth to read though. The anime skipped all kinds of things.
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>>158914658
I have only read the arc 3 manga, not LN or WN.

Even in your image it says that only few people can smell the miasma, but it is a vague statement because it can mean anything from group of people to an individual. Since Ram list her horn there is no way prove what you say.
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>>158914597
>Nothing in the series has outright claimed this.
Except arc 3 and their backstory, maybe try reading something for once in your shit life.
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>>158915032
I didn't post that page. But I did read the thing from the WN.

Firstly, Witchbeasts can smell miasma whether or not their horn is fine, as proven by Meili's dogs. Secondly, Rem refers to her ability as the one area in which she's superior to her sister, horn or not, and that's not something to be taken lightly.
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>>158914844
Supposedly the whale, rabbits and blacksnakes also had their horns broken by Daphne, though it didn't really seem like they did so that's weird. Its also maybe how Ley is able to control it, but it still didn't look like its horn was broken, so that's all weird.
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>>158914752
Again where is this stated?

>>158914844
I'm pretty those dogs had horns on them in the manga and anime, but I'll have go check. I haven't read Arc 2 LN yet, just the manga.

But if so I will relent on that. The whole business isn't properly defined anyway.
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>>158915287
Well I will take your word for it. Manga leaves out some stuff anyway.

Thanks for being civil unlike this shit heel >>158915173
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>>158915509
Of course the manga leaves stuff out. It'd be hard for me to find the exact chapter number where Rem has her internal monologue, but it's made pretty clear that it's not an Oni ability. As in, she internally states that it's not an Oni ability, and goes on about how while they do have keen senses and can detect mana and track prey, they don't smell miasma.

That's why this Capella scene is relevant. This other Oni girl doesn't start smelling miasma until the shit Capella poured down her ear takes effect.
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>>158848749
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>>158915509
Seriously, you just spent the last several hours arguing that foreshadowing doesn't foreshadow anything and that everyone should stop having discussions because you declared them unimportant based on your literal ignorance of having read fucking nothing from this series and arguing against shit everyone fucking knows because everyone else has read this shit already.

You are fucking cancer and need to fuck the fuck off.
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>>158915653
Oh, and all because you can literally not stand the fact that Rem has plot relevance. She does. Fucking deal with it retard.
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>>158915389
Rem herself admits that sensing miasma it's the only thing she actually has over her sister
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>>158915632
I'm still skeptic about the Capella stuff until the MU, but I will go rest. Like none of the versions of the story establish a clearly definition around miasma.

Other than that I'll just wait to see how things with pan out.
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142 days until Ferri and Crusch-sama's backstory novel is released translated. I'm getting so excited bros. I've already waited almost a year.
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>>158916082
with Al
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>>158916136
And Meili. I'm waiting to see if she remembers something. She is not to be trusted.

And speaking of that, do we think Mom is a new character or could Capella be Mom?
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>>158915653
>>158915745

You need mental help. Getting into random fights with people you don't and trying above your strawman and victim complex isn't gonna make you look asinine.
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>>158912358
Gospel holders' IQ must be very shit, well, except that one girl, because their actions are entirely determined by their books and they couldn't do shit on their own.
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>>158916237
Maybe? There is no hint of connection between the two. If she really Emeralds Lungica she might not even left the country.
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>>158916082
It is unclear how Capella relates to Rem, since there's only one piece of evidence to support that she might have been involved at the village. When Rem finally awoke after the point her memories go blank, and we have no clear details on what happened in between, she was able to smell the Witch.

Reize/Raze, or however the fuck you want to spell her name, is given a similar backstory where her village is attacked. Only there's no blank period in her memories. She has something poured down her ear, by someone speaking with Capella's mannerisms, and she can smell the Witch afterwards.

The only plot relevance this has in the IF is to explain why Raise is the way she is, and why she can smell the Witch. Which begs us to question the origin of Rem's own Witch Sense.

And remember, Rem doesn't remember anything after Ram got her horn chopped off, and Ram is overprotective and doesn't like sharing certain facts with her little sister.
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>>158916293
>Getting into random fights with people you don't and trying above your strawman and victim complex isn't gonna make you look asinine.
Look at this shit. Ignoring what you were trying to say being hilariously ironic, your poor grasp of language makes this say the opposite of what you intended. Just fuck off.
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>>158916498
This is some weak rebuttal

The fact that capella was only experimenting on blue-eyed onis can really indicate it was the gospel telling her to inject that thing into a person with such characteristichs
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>>158916498
I think much less that than revere those things religions. It's basically their bible which has always been right.
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>>158916668
Hmm, the anime and manga never implied parts of her memory was missing. Her flashback seem pretty clear and related what relevant. Interesting.
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>>158916646
Yeah, not sure what I think. She could just be some new scary lady, its not like new characters have stopped being introduced anyway.
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>>158916942
It pretty much directly states that her memories cut off after she sees Ram's horn flying through the air and has her thought about it. Maybe she passed out from shock. Who knows?

However, in Oni Sisters, her sister who has just lost a vital organ and been having horrendously debilitating seizures, has been sitting and waiting some significant amount of time for Rem to wake up. Rem, who was never actually injured, somehow takes longer to recover than Ram.
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>>158916668
>And remember, Rem doesn't remember anything after Ram got her horn chopped off, and Ram is overprotective and doesn't like sharing certain facts with her little sister.
Although wasn't it Faust that was kicking her ass? And he just wants to see them burn? Although I suppose it covers some weirdness in the timing where it seemed that Ram had gotten away with Rem before bumping into Roswaal whereas the previous portrayal was more like Roswaal interrupting a finishing blow.
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>>158916720
Again it could another Regulus situation. I don't think the gospel is telling to go around collecting trophy wivives. Do far pretty much of Bishops are self-centered assailed whom for the most part forfill the objectives of their gospel entirely for their own desires.
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>>158917124
>the previous portrayal was more like Roswaal interrupting a finishing blow.
That's how it looks like in the anime. Rem's memories cut off before that point.
>Although wasn't it Faust that was kicking her ass? And he just wants to see them burn?
Yes. Which leads me to ask exactly what happened. If that was the exact moment Roswaal showed up, Faust should have been dead.
>>158917237
>I don't think the gospel is telling to go around collecting trophy wivives.
It actually is. That was his motive for appearing in Arc 5. His Gospel literally told him he'd find a new wife there.
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>>158917237
>assailed

Assholes. Damn auto-correct.
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>>158917263
>It actually is. That was his motive for appearing in Arc 5. His Gospel literally told him he'd find a new wife there.

Okay this sounds like the Archbishops are being lured in to for filling other objectives by using a carrot and stick method.

I guess that is only way to control this kind of group.
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>>158885745
Just read this. That was pretty good. Hoped for more Elsa but oh well.

Though at the end when he gets Emilia to kill him, wouldn't Return Death activate and prevent things from ever moving forward?
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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