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https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2017/06/21/reif-starting-life-in-a-different-world-chapter-2-3-months/
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>>158822465
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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>>158822519
Rem:zero
Emilia:one
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>>158822465
so who attacked them in this chapter?
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>>158822706
unknown
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Please don't let the heat from the last thread in here.
Shame there isn't an illustration for IP release, but I really don't think they can actually cut it out of the story like Puck
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>>158822562
what are you counting?
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>>158822706
Spoiler

>>158822784
Do we even know if he still has it? They seemed to have changed a lot of stuff around. Its an important tool in his arsenal so its be fucking strange for him to not, but I don't see where they fit it in. It was already sort of bordering on asspull territory before but now I feel like it would come out of literally nowhere.

Also I don't really want to get into it, but if you want a laugh, go read the 'quote' from From Zero he typed up and then never speak of it again.
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Translated Light Novel Volume 4.

https://mega.nz/#!GBkjgaRQ!N9HyN1mFeB0deRG6-dTANJ8X51ePW7vEKAZGNbVCGVA
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Halibel seems to be very fucking strong. Any chance this wolf man will win in a fight against Reinhard?
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>>158822465
>Getting their fluids on the kimono

These lewd fucks I swear
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>>158822985
I'd still put my bets on Reinhardt. He's just that retardedly strong.
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>>158822465
>Subaru was happy to have a child with a girl so precious to him.
>[Subaru: ──Rem!]
>[Rem: Fua!?]
>Subaru gives in to the urge hurting his chest, and he hugs Rem without thinking.

>That sudden action surprises Rem, and the warmth she felt from Subaru, who was very close to her, makes her goggle in astonishment. Subaru brings his lips near her ears, and with everything he felt, he said,

>[Subaru: Thank you, Rem. ──Thank you. Thank you, Rem.]
>[Rem: Subaru…-ku……]
>[Subaru: I’m so happy. We have a kid……a family.]
Fuck, that was more emotional than I expected. Thank you, Remon.
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>>158823042
That wasn't the line. Remon fixed it.
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>>158822881
I'm still not sure what the point for 80% of those changes are but cutting IP out seems like a chore to write around since unlike Puck it becomes relevant fast, unless they have a good plan about how to handle it.
Christ, how does that even happen
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>>158823068
That was definitely one of my favorite scenes. Haven't started properly reading through the translations yet, as my eyes need to rest, but I'm glad I can finally start discussing this without having to keep important details a secret.
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>>158823090
He didn't really make it any less lewd. They're still talking about only doing 'just a little' naughty things in the kimono as opposed to mentioning getting anything on it.
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>>158822307
No he says that never the beginning of Arc 4. He also says that he needs Rem's help to give him courage to face Emilia and be supportive to her, because he doesn't find himself worthy.

One of Subaru's constant conflicts and part of the reason why he fought Julius was because in reality he was jealous could do what he couldn't That because he is strong both in mind and physical ability he would be a way better supporter for Emilia if things were different. Arc 3 and 4 eventually taught he didn't need to be like Julius to support Emilia and he become someone she could trust wholly because his own efforts. Just being there when she at her worst emotionally and helping her to pick up and restart her life finally allow her open up to him earnestly. This reflected in their conversation from the start of last loop in Arc 4 all the way to Knighthood ceremony chapter.

That's all I'm saying about that.

>>158822784
There shouldn't even be any heat. It's completely retarded for some people here to deny what Asian fanbase knows and continue make excuses and denials. It serves no point. It's just further proof that in here developments and whatnot don't matter to some people unless about their waifu.

Anyway, looking forward to more volume 13 scans. I'm hoping that mini flashback Emilia had of Fortuna, Juice and herself prior to the trials is still there. If not hopefully it's merged into the her trials somehow.
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>>158823213
Oh, I know. The scene was pretty damned lewd.
>>158822706
An angry prostitute.
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>>158823332
Fuck off
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>>158823332
go away
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>>158823332
Go back.
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>>158823332
This thread's about the Rem IF, now go away
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>>158823332
Fuck off retard

>Hurr durr its always Remfags starting shit Emiliafags never jump into new threads to keep shit going
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>>158823332
fuck off cancer and stop bullshit cherry picking parts like "from zero"
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>>158823332
Be gone.
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>>158823399
No isn't. It's general Re:Zero thread like nearly every other one.

>>158823364
>>158823366
>>158823396
>>158823407
No, you fuck off.
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>>158823407
If he ever says that, he's a hypocrite. There are times he's jumped in and started this shit when people were saying good things about Rem, because he thought that was their way of insulting Emilia.
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>>158823413
I will when you stop doing that yourself Remfag.
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>>158823332
>There shouldn't even be any heat.
>still tries to continue the conversation from the last thread
Your lack of self-awareness is ridiculous. Please do us a favor and leave.
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>>158823485
Screw off ya cunt. Go learn English, actually read the story, and then stay fucked off anyway.
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>there actually are unironic Emiliafags
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>>158823559
And they're surprisingly more cancerous than most Remfags, which is quite the challenge.
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>>158823559
is this a new "every thread" post?
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So is Oni infertility a defense mechanism because Oni apparently can't withstand transforming while pregnant? Seems like a pretty big drawback.
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I just want Subaru to be happy regardless of who he ends up being with the dude has suffered long enough
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>>158823655
I don't think he's suffered enough. SOON
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Reminder that Ram will chew out Subaru every thread until Rem wakes up
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>>158823559
I'm afraid of asking this, but is there any Roswaalfag here?
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>>158823625
seems to be something like that, the moment Rem tried to enter Oni mode it backfired and she fainted
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>>158823738
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>>158823750
He's one of my favorite characters, in the sense that he's great to hate, but I wouldn't call myself a Roswaalfag.
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>>158823750
No, they don't exist.
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>>158823504
What the fuck are even talking about?

You find any excuse to insult Emilia (and Subaru when he doesn't act the way you want) on your own.

You don't see anyone shitting on Subaru's feelings fro Rem, but you constantly do for Emilia. The only people with problem here is you.

It doesn't help you that you treat everyone who either doesn't support Rem x Suabru or isn't against just has preference something else as one monolithic entity called ESL-kun like you were doing to several anons in the last thread.

Pathetic.
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I love Garfiel but I wasn't that invested in his backstory. Seeing it actually illustrated however helps me like it a lot more, and I'm starting to feel really sorry for mom.
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>>158823842
Wait, his mom is... Meili?
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>>158823332
If you honestly think Subaru, who was perfect Archbishop material before From Zero, was remotely genuine about his feelings for Emilia you are sorely mistaken. Archbishops are scum, I'd bet the Pride factor would have jumped halfway across the country if not for it being trapped in a box or bonded to someone else.
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>>158823832
Look, ESL-kun. I recognize your typing style. I'll even bite the bullet to say that I recognize it from a variety of places. I've seen you overreact to things that had absolutely nothing to do with Emilia, because you assumed there was offense to Emilia.
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>>158823832
nigga we know you are esl from your lack of understanding English
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>>158823931
Is there a general hierarchy to the deadliness of the sins and the power they give? Pride is often cited as dangerous, and there was additional details about Typhon the Pride Witch and how she was using a fraction of her Authorities potential.
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>>158823545
Except your that because actually a buthurt waifufag who doesn't want to be over will keep shitting another ship for your own ship.

Notice I said that was my last comment on it? So now what?

How about you have some self-awareness and stop talking about it? Like right now. But you won't.

>>158823625
Honestly is this only thing talk about in the IF? How about Kararagi in general beyond the mentioned characters?

I'm kind of wishing he would actually do a side story set in Vollachia Empire, which is based of the Spanish empire but mix of spartan culture.
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>>158822465
>[Rem: Plus, I was able to tell all your coworkers to take good care of you.]

>[Subaru: I’m definitely going to be teased by everyone tomorrow……]

>[Rem: ──?]
She did that on purpose, didn't she? That cheeky cute. Or perhaps she wanted to check on the women Subaru works with.
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>>158823750
I like him as a character, but he's a fuckass. I'm curious what he'll continue to do and I'm actually more invested in the Roswaal/Echidna/Ram/Rem side of the plot that whatever witch fuckery is supposed to be the main plot, although a lot of it sort of runs together.
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>>158823919
>Has brown hair
>WN Meili jumped worldlines and through time to become Garfiel's mom.
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>>158824175
>Honestly is this only thing talk about in the IF? How about Kararagi in general beyond the mentioned characters?
Dunno, how about you use your sick wiki skills to see what it says about Kararagi. And if we wanted to have a conversation with someone who's only knowledge is to read a wiki we'd just read it our fucking selves.
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>>158823931
Ofcourse of I do. Rem and everyone else validated his feelings. The problem was his emotionally baggage that where attached to them form his lack of self worth. He finally rid himself of all thanks to his repeated failures, Rem and finally facing his own past. So all that is left is his feels for her untainted by doubts of his own ability.

He says to his mom and dad that he has to people who become his pillars now. It's ridiculous to deny other than petty waifuism. Let the man love for godsake.
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>>158824045
it really depends on how it manifests through the user, but tappei stated that he decided to make Envy the most dangerous one
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>>158823332

subaru never find himsef worthy for Rem not emilia

If you've read the "From Zero" chapter

>Nobody made expectations for Subaru. She is the only person who didn’t abandon him and didn’t accept the Subaru who abandoned even himself.
>This is the “curse” that Subaru cast on her.

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>[Rem: You woke up with a smile, told me the words I wanted to hear the most when I wanted to hear them the most, from the person I wanted to hear them from the most.]
>The frequency of the “curse” that Subaru cast on her is spoken from her mouth.
>That “curse” profoundly and gently restrained her heart with the chains called faith, and she was tied by them like this now as well.

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>Because he only continued to show his unattractive side…
>Because Subaru himself cast an everlasting “curse” on her…
>He had an obligation to fulfill that duty.

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>He raises his face, looks forward, and then looks into Rem’s eyes. She calmly and kindly waits for Subaru to let out his answer.
>Because Subaru wanted to be the Natsuki Subaru that she loves…
>[Subaru: ??I love Emilia.]
>[Rem: ??Yes.]
>Rem responds to Subaru’s confession by nodding with a smile that made it seem as if she knew everything.
>And while knowing how cruel he was being to her smile and her kindness

Which is further emphasized

>Did he really have enough merit to him for a girl as well-done as Rem to love him so much?
>Even now he had to wonder it. That said, he was simultaneously thinking that he'd have to become a man who matched up to that merit.

Basically he thinks of himself as a man not worthy of Rem.

Subaru's goal in arc 3 went from "I gotta save Emilia" to "I must not disappoint Rem" by the end of it.

He wants to be loved by her, but he's also afraid of disappointing her since she has huge expectations for him
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>>158824175
>Notice I said that was my last comment on it? So now what?
I also noticed how you kept commenting on it afterwards. Really makes one think. Hint: Deleting your posts doesn't make people magically forget you made them.
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>>158824407
Look at you. Still acting like a salty fucking waifufag and bothering to talk about the series. And also making baseless claims. Fuck.Off.
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>>158824293
Well, Echidna is a more interesting character than Satella, so that's only natural.
>>158824480
>Subaru's goal in arc 3 went from "I gotta save Emilia" to "I must not disappoint Rem" by the end of it.
I'd say he still wanted to save Emilia, but "not disappointing Rem" did seem to be what got him through everything up to the whale.
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>>158824175
>I'm kind of wishing he would actually do a side story set in Vollachia Empire, which is based of the Spanish empire but mix of spartan culture.
Unfortunately, there aren't any magazine scans surviving from that month that I'm aware of. Though I could be wrong.
>How about Kararagi in general beyond the mentioned characters?
There's a tidbit on prostitution.
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>>158824480
This not what I'm talking about. Himself not finding himself worthily of Rem doesn't mean he finds himself worthy of Emilia. It's not mutually exclusive He outlines his reason why:

>"You!! What you...! What you can know about me?!

>Subaru hit the wall alongside him with his fist, shattering it and spilling blood on the wall.

>" I am this kind of man! I have no power but my wishes are huge, i am not smart but i pursue impossible dreams, i can do nothing but i keep pushing myself in vane...!!!

>Everyone had something good and they used that for reach their goals. However, Natsuki Subaru doesn't have anything like that but he wished so much.

>"I...! I... I hate myself!!"

His comment about Rem and dissuade his feelings about Emilia when Julius showed him how weak he was. He just afterwards. That's what's Tappei was trying convey to you. This why your supposed to have some sympathy for him because it wasn't like eh was not trying
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>>158824990
>and dissuade
doesn't
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>>158824660
>Unfortunately, there aren't any magazine scans surviving from that month that I'm aware of. Though I could be wrong.

I see. Thanks anyway.

>There's a tidbit on prostitution.
Well slavery is legal there so there no surprise this is too. I was kind of hope we got mention about some important government figures or something. Tia and that wolf guy is interesting, but those look to be the only other actual characters talked about. But that's not what story is about I suppose.
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>>158824990
Not that anon but are you actually too incompetent to quote the actual lines? Why do you type them yourself?
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>>158825218
>I see. Thanks anyway.
Yeah, it was from 2015. Consistent scans don't start until 2016. Though that time does make it a likely candidate for a Tanpenshuu volume.
>I was kind of hope we got mention about some important government figures or something.
Riften is probably the closest to an important figure in this story here. But really, the closest thing you're going to get to deepest lore is at the tail end of this story.
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>Remfags in denial
My sides
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So I missed the last couple threads. What exactly happened that everyone is losing their minds right now?
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>>158825722
LN got to the point where Subaru and Emilia kissed so there is an official art and some are baiting the Remfags about it
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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Can someone please post ninja Rem
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>>158825770
Too bad this picture is way cuter.
>>158825899
I'll go dig that one up in a second.
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>>158825899
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>>158823068
Oh god my heart
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>>158825770
>Using Damage Control Kiss as ship fuel
Emiliafags can't be reasoned with. Has spfag returned? Do we need to shut him up again?
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>>158825958
So what's this one supposed to be? A joke that coma Rem is dreaming about kissing Subaru? Probably not canon since she'd have lost her memories of him.
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>>158826007
Get the graphs and the translations, we need more information to break through these delusions
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>>158825998
That's the happiest Subaru will ever be in any LN or WN chapter ever.
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>>158826030
it's foreshadowing
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>>158826056
Rem's awakening will get close to this one
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>>158826007
SPfag has better English, and can actually read Japanese.
>>158826052
Please don't start shit. There's no need to prolong this nonsense.
>>158826030
The artist usually puts something at the end of each book. Sometimes concept art, sometimes a sort of gag page.
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>>158826149
Or in short, that picture is there because the artist wanted to draw a SubaRem kiss scene.
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>>158826078
Rem's keikaku.
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>>158826056
I just want Subaru and Rem to be happy ;_;
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>>158825994
Thanks bro
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>>158826030
It's just basically just some kind of extinguisher so that the readers who support Rem don't get too mad.
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>>158826217
I'm deeply concerned about the amount of time he will have to wait for the LN to get to that point.
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>>158825958
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>>158827245
At least flatten her chest first.
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>>158827340
Someone with good Photoshop skill should do it.
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>>158827245
DELET
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>>158823750
He's fun to hate
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>>158827245
Rem doing Ram cosplay. How can I tell? Rem is not a flattie
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Does anyone know what Rem's official breast size is? I know they're smaller than Emilia's.
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>>158822870
extra chromosomes
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>>158828288
It's: still growing
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>>158828510
Not that anon but the manga confuses me. Is Rem supposed to have cowtits?
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>>158828717
it's a fucking manga for a LN
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>>158828717
they're supposed to be noticeably big
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>>158828717
Big dreams need big containers anon
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>>158828717
Only moderately large, but on one of the smallest girls with a mature body.
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>>158823332
>reddit spacing
>Emiliafag
What did he mean by this?
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>>158828835
>>158828981
They are way too big in that pic.
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>>158829010
It means exactly what you think.
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Emilia is going to win, who cares about Rem? She is ugly af and her head looks like a fucking blue coconut. She already has a shitty non canon what if story, Remshitters are wasting their time.
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>>158828016
Stay cucked, Garf.
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>>158829985
Gaaf doesn't deserve this.
He will be making kittens with mimi
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>>158822465
I really wanted to like this show but it become to unbelievable and the the "suffering" got mundane. If felt so goddamn forced that everyone got along and became friends really quick in episode 19

And after the shit he had been through and how they treated him in the episodes prior, he should have literally hated everyone's fucking guts for eternity. And the fur fag Puck should have been destroyed. That damn thing is pure evil and a piece of shit.
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Imagine if Subaru was a character in Re:Creators. How fucked would Tappei be?
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>>158830202
In the real world, Subaru is an extremely physically fit man with short range telekinesis. I'm sure he'd want to talk Tappei into making a few adjustments to his story.

Harem chapter is canon.
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>>158830159
Adaptations will be adaptations anon, effectively half of everything got cut in the anime but there are good reasons for why Subaru cares for the people around him. Maybe except Puck and Roswaal, who he punches, and tried to strangle and nearly neck snapped.
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>>158830325
He didn't try to strangle he actually strangled him Ram style. Too bad Gaaf had to cockblock him from finishing the job.
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>>158830159
>If felt so goddamn forced that everyone got along and became friends really quick in episode 19

This is what the anime really sort of botched, since the didn't become friends at all. At least everyone except Crusch and Wilhelm that is. Since the alliance between the Emilia factions and others effectively broke up at the end of arc 3 due to Ferris.
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>>158830473
>The alliance between the Emilia factions and others effectively broke up at the end of arc 3 due to Ferris.

Wow, what a cunt.
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Next season when?
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>>158830643
Never.
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>make a girl lose so hard that the fans throw a fit and force you to make a spin-off where she wins
What a shitty author
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>>158830751
>Spinoff was made long before Re:Zero was popular
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>>158830751
It's a non-canon "What If" story.
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>>158830751
He made it pretty much just to rub salt in the wound
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>>158830751
She didn't lost yet, if you talk here some anons argue she even won, which she technically did. With Subaru going full devoted husbando on her.
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>>158830751
Subaru still loves Rem in the Mu and still wants to spend the rest of his lie with her, its just that happy endings are hard to come by in Re:Zero. Even Wilhelm in the end never got his happy ending.
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>>158830751
If only you knew just how much Subaru loves Rem anon
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>>158830858
Wilhelm got his revenge how is that not happy?
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>>158830945
The man was forced to kill and bury his own wife in arc 5, that's anything but happy.
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>>158830945
Seeing his wife die in his hands is happy alright.
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>>158830985
>This might be Subaru and Rem's fate soon

Arc 6 despair incoming
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>>158831152
the theme of an arc doesn't necessarily focus on Subaru, it can also be about Julius' despair
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>>158831236
It also could be Ram or the the entire cast
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>>158830804
>she didn't lose yet
>she technically won

Subaru outright told her that he loves Emilia. The author literally wrote an alternative route so that Rem fans can be happy which pretty much engraves her loss in stone when it comes to the canon story. Now she's been gone for god knows how long and there are still no signs of her coming back soon.

All you can hope for is a harem ending but I doubt that'll happen.
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>>158822870
Number of times they've had sex with Subaru
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>>158831522
I'm not happy with the Rem IF ending. Why would someone be happy about it that early in the story? It just makes more people ship these two.
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>>158831522
>implying that the story is a shitty harem show about a girl "winning"
I'm disappointed about how people think that Rem and Emilia are competing against each other, it's like you miss the whole point of these characters
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>>158831522
>Subaru outright told her that he loves Emilia.

See
>>158824480
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>>158831522
Do you know what Subaru also outright said and did after the "I love Emilia"? Do you know what Carmilla appeared as?
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>>158832023
he doesn't because he didn't read
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Good Night Ferri and Crusch-sama
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>>158832023
Is that scene supposed to be important? There's barely fan art of it.
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>>158832756
>barely fanart
don't make me spam them
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>>158832863
fan art of Carmella scene? I'd appreciate if you could do it since I've only had like one or two fan arts of that scene. I'm desperately looking for more.
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>>158833091
Probably because the Carmilla scene involves Subaru wanting to pummel her after trying to copy his waifu. Due to how heavy this series gets people tend to gravitate towards the lightheartedness to avoid crippling depression.
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>>158833091
I only got a comic
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and there's the real deal
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>>158833244
>>158833281
Carmilla did nothing wrong. It was Echidna's fault! She deserved to be punched by Subaru instead.
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I feel bad for Remfags. I really do.
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>>158830385
One day Subaru is finally going to kill someone through strangulation instead of kekkaikus
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>>158833749
Same
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>>158833595
Narcissist
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>>158822465
Why do old ladies like Subaru so much?
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>>158833749
>most fanarts
>most comics
>most translations
>most merchandise
You know that re:zero will end in like 5 years and that nobody here will give a shit until then about it cause the threads will be dead until then?
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>>158834026
What?
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>[Halibel: ‘Feudal lord’. You sure know some outdated words. That’s what the king was called before Kararagi settled down.]

Well shit. Was Hoshina feudal lord pre-isekai?
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>>158834508
ROSWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
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>>158834508
I don't think the ages line up right for that to be true, the consensus here was that she was straggler the witch cult didn't kill.
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>>158834555
That's not a consensus. That's literally the thing it says in the book. She grew up in a village of outcasts, and Capella pissed in her ear.
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>>158834593
oh shit I didn't see that
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>>158822465
I wanted happy marriage shenanigans not this
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>And another note, scans will not be released. I don’t care if you know japanese, think the translation is shit, and want the scans. Fuck off and go buy the book yourself, really. And I don’t care if its “just an IF” and I “could be translating other things”. I love Rem so I’ve always translated everything related to Rem, and that’s how it’s always going to be. I don’t care if Rem has 1000 more translations than everyone else. It’s unbelievable how unappreciated and self-entitled people can be. It gets really tiring…

damn that emiliafag from earlier BTFO
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>>158834818
You know you fucked up when you pissed off a translator who is working for free
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>>158834886
and he almost took the ball and went home
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>>158834886
There were lots of translators back then who would drop pieces here and there that people were interested in the future arcs. Then waifu wars drove them away, then came the spfag era. I hope Remon and summaryanon stay strong.
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>[???: ──Congratulations.]

Fucking amazing
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>>158825770
>>158826007
Baiting who? There was that one buthurt Remfag who around saying the kiss doesn't' matter and Subaru doesn't love Emilia was the one who started it. You don't ever see any Emiliafag saying about Rem x Subaru. SOme of them need to accept that Subaru both of them as he says and get over it already.
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>>158835334
okay ESL
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>>158832023
>Do you know what Subaru also outright said and did after the "I love Emilia"?

This a bit inaccurate. He said after second time he interrelated that he loved Emilia at the Flugel Tree. Rem brought the polygamy in response. So you didn't discredit his point there.

> Do you know what Carmilla appeared as?

Which honestly doesn't much of anything in context because prior to Carmilia appearing he said wanted to see Rem anyway. He reaching the point he did in From Zero where he to worn down emotionally and Rem is only person he could show his weakness to.

>>158834886
You mean like Remfags pissed off Spbro who was also working for free? Maybe if people stop shitting on each others waifu and accept comes out of characters own mouths and thoughts instead just selective cherrying picking dialogue that doesn't even contradict anything.
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>>158835627
>You mean like Remfags pissed off Spbro who was also working for free?
Are you seriously calling him a bro? He distorted facts to suit his biases, blatantly called himself cancer, and deliberately stirred up shitstorms.

We don't need his kind here.
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>>158835627
>Rem brought the polygamy in response
No, she did it in response to him admitting he also had feelings for her

>You mean like Remfags pissed off Spbro who was also working for free?
this is rich
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>>158835627
>You mean like Remfags pissed off Spbro who was also working for free?
He was Mitrospeed-tier bad You don't piss of spfag, spfag pisses off you.
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>>158835627
For one I did say AFTER he said "I love Emilia" which still makes my statement correct, since that confession after after both of those events. Also:

>The heaviness of Rem’s feelings, along with her resolve, was now too being felt. Leaning his back against the huge tree, Subaru took one deep breath.
>Despite having warm feelings swell up within his chest, Subaru used his courage to speak.
>[Subaru: I—I love Emilia.]
>[Rem: Yes.]
>It was the words that were said once before to her. Even while knowing that these words were terrible words that hurt her, Subaru still spoke them again. But,
>[Subaru: But]
>[————–]
>[Subaru: But, when I look at you, my heart flutters. …You can think of me as a terrible guy.]
>He thought these words were terrible but convenient. However, they were words that were not lies; they were Subaru’s true feelings. Even though he couldn’t answer Rem’s feelings, her words were the only ones that would make his heart warm up to this degree.
>As a reaction to Subaru’s feelings, Rem sighed a timid “hohh” that made it seem as if she had caught a fever.

Real convincing for his love of Emilia under the Fugel Tree huh?
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>>158835901
That was actually spfags own translation reposted there, I'm pretty sure. His little circlejerk would always pick and choose which of his translations they'd accept as real, but he'd only ever spout shit at Remfags.

In the end, he was just a waifu warrior who wanted to fight for the honor of his silver-haired princess.
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>>158835901
>I was the anon that posted why "some idiots saying that this is a fake"
And it was so good to see all those Emiliafags obliterated by Remon and non biased translators.
Were they actually fake?
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>>158836449
They were real translations.
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>>158835694
He didn't distort anything. Everything he said would happen in Arc 4 came true, discredited Remfags who were lying about the arc. They you guys gang up on one thing he had opinion on because it didn't fit you viewpoint. Don't make excuses for deliberating driving somebody out.

>>158835696
>No, she did it in response to him admitting he also had feelings for her

Nope read that scene again. He only admitted internal that she also made his heart race, but the polygamy was all her. He said he would be okay with if he.

>>158836014
>For one I did say AFTER he said "I love Emilia" which still makes my statement correct, since that confession after after both of those events.

Right, but make sound like said it immediately after the first time which during From Zero which wasn't true. You were being misleading. Subaru's was entirely serious about what he said as was Rem.

>>158836061
So what? It didn't make his translations any less accurate. Remon is complete Remfag, but it doesn't make his translations less true either. You waive the right to care biases when you accept either one of their works.
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>>158836626
>because I read the WN?
>Because
>I
>read
>WN?
I conceded defeat way too easily, I should have pressed on but for now I'm going to scream like pic related in joy.
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>>158836785
>discredited Remfags who were lying about the arc.
There were no lies about Arc 4 going around, at least none related to Rem. The biggest Arc 4 lie was about Hector.

Spfag was always extremely quick to shit on Remfags.
>Remon is complete Remfag,
Yes. But he doesn't deliberately start shitstorms, or act like a narcissistic nitwit while insulting everyone.
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>>158836785
>Don't make excuses for deliberating driving somebody out.
Spfag was literally the ringleader of a bunch of asshats trying to drive Remfags out of the thread. He picked a fight, and he lost.
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>>158836785
>[Subaru: I—I love Emilia.]

>[Rem: Yes.]

>It was the words that were said once before to her. Even while knowing that these words were terrible words that hurt her, Subaru still spoke them again. But,

>[Subaru: But]

>[————–]

>[Subaru: But, when I look at you, my heart flutters. …You can think of me as a terrible guy.]

I indeed read that scene again and I was right, who would have thought
So much for the others being the ones distorting the facts
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>>158836949

>Spfag was always extremely quick to shit on
No he only started doing when they kept posting misinformation and trying to discredit him.

Keep in mind he didn't hate Rem was his 3rd favorite character, just her cancerous base who picked fights with anyone they felt threatened their circlejerk.

>Yes. But he doesn't deliberately start shitstorms, or act like a narcissistic nitwit while insulting everyone.

No he just doesn't piss of Remfags because he's a Remfag himself and posts what their want to hear.
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>>158837241
I distinctly remember spfag downplaying Rem's role in arc 4 and her presence as a motivator for Subaru during the Garfiel fight and Satella meeting
I also remember that he somehow didn't realize that Garfiel and Frederica were rape babies which makes me doubt about half of his reading comprehension
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>>158837100
That scene not From Zero. That happens at the Flugel like I said?

This is the scene you saw it in the anime which adapted it word for word without the mononlogue:

>"... Rem"


>"Yes."

>Rem respond quietly to the call from Subaru.
Subaru raises his head and look forward, to Rem's eyes.

>Rem wait calm and kindly the answer from Subaru.

>Is why Subaru, wanting to stay like the Natsuki Subaru that she love,

>"-I love Emilia"

>"-Yes"

>Rem keep smiling with a comprehensive smile front Subaru's statement
>Subaru follows, even understanding that it was cruel for the kind and the smile of Rem.

I never argued against him saying what you quote after he said "I love Emilia" the SECOND time.
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>>158837370
Because Subaru was motivated by a lot of things not just Rem. It's never just Rem. He was also motivated by his mothers loving words as with Emilia's presence in those scenes you mentioned. He was breaking the notion that she had monopoly on him that is all.
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>>158837393
you buffoon

>>158835627
>>158836785
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>>158837505
No, the way it went was he was saying that Rem was irrelevant in arc 4, so the examples of her being a motivating force came up, and he dismissed them
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>>158837241
>No he only started doing when they kept posting misinformation and trying to discredit him.
They stopped posting misinformation very shortly after it was corrected. He was also definitely taking every opportunity to shit on Remfags. He directly called himself cancer, so he knew what he was doing.

I actually used to defend him, but after a certain point I realized that he was deliberately encouraging the shitstorm.
>No he just doesn't piss of Remfags because he's a Remfag himself and posts what their want to hear.
Remon generally doesn't shit on people or suck his own dick. He doesn't start circlejerks either. His presence in these threads is extremely unobtrusive. Comparing Spfag to Remonwater is probably the worst insult you could muster.

Fuck you and fuck off.
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>>158837241
As someone who was there in the times of spfag, I'll tell you that he was very very cancerous. That arrogant fuck could be written into the story as the Pride Archbishop, he was that full of himself.
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>>158837827
As someone who was there, the atmosphere before he arrived was more confusions and clumsy efforts to sort through spoilers where half of them were fake. I would usually try to request if any WNfags were around to verify, but there would usually be a bunch who were full of shit. The wiki summary had barely started yet, and people didn't even know that Subaru loved Rem.

So the misinformation supposedly being spread by Remfags was mostly just an expression of the ongoing confusion. I don't recall much hostility in those early threads. Just lots of people hoping a WNfag would pass by to clear things up.

When SPfag came, that seemed pretty good at first, except he started blaming Remfags in particular rather than noticing the obvious. That there were misleading spoilers about everything, including Hector's abilities and backstory, and it really had nothing to do with Remfags. There were just a bunch of bizarre half-truths in those days.

However, SPfag started being a huge douche, and that's when waifuwars started properly. Anyone who thinks he was the victim needs to get their head examined.
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>>158823068
Why did Subaru want Rem to be pregnant? Didn't he know she was still underage?
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>>158838596
Look, he's been poking holes in his own goddamn condoms. If he didn't get results, he was going to start worrying he was sterile.
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>>158838596
They were both pretty much 18 at that time.
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>>158838332
I remember when people thought those guys in the back were the three Gluttonies and the old man at the bottom was Regulus.
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>>158836785
If I recall spfag lied about Subaru not loving Rem, he also said Subaru moved on and left Rem even going so far to say that Rem was not a big motivator for Subaru's actions but instead the biggest factor was Emilia and she was going to be this amazing girl who does all these amazing things in arc 4 without giving proper details.
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>>158838683
Yes, those were the times. It was a fucking mess. The existence of so much general misinformation was something that made it feel odd when Spfag immediately started pointing to Remfags as the problem.
>>158838806
Oh yes, he liked to tell the narrative that Subaru would probably dump Rem if Emilia ever started showing interest in him, and that he wouldn't be very conflicted about it if she wasn't willing to go for the polygamy route. He'd say he still liked Rem, but he'd also say shit like how anime Rem was an improvement. Which is an indication that someone doesn't actually like Rem at all.

After I finally got around to start reading the WN, I really just can't see how he could have come to the conclusion that the anime improved her. Unless he just didn't like any of the flaws that made her interesting, and just has a preference for sweet innocent girls who are nothing but sweet and innocent.

Which he probably does, now that I think about it. I mean, he is an Emiliafag and he did make comments about how Rem pretending to be dying was cruel.
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all this talk about old times made me want to look up the mitrospeed spoilers out of 'nostalgia', and they were even more ridiculous than i remember.

>"I never knew normal people in such a simple village could scream so much, especially the children. One of them wouldn't shut up so I gently took its head and let it look at its body who has done good to finally shut up".
>"Oh and this half-elv, I thought their blood was said to be incredibly light, almost pink but in the end all that came out of her was the usual red of intestines"
>"You're and Oni, aren't you? Only Oni could endure pain to that degree. So we missed one...no two there was one just like you with pink hair. I wonder why she couldn't endure as much as you, she died way too quickly for my taste. Maybe she was missing...this" Betelgeuse brings out Rem's horn which is her weakpoint. He takes his knife and cuts around her forehead, into her skull and scrapes out the horn.

what a guy.
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>>158839106
Sounds edgy enough to be in a mindbreak doujin.
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>>158839106
I especially remember how when people read the spoilers it was being compared to the Eclipse from Berserk. Where the hell was he pulling this shit from?
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>>158837559
He never said Rem was irrelevant. He said her role is minor and it is. 98% of Arc 4 scenes do not mention or include her. She simply too inactive to play much of a role. Remfags were just getting unnecessary triggered but that fact because they desperate for any scrap Rem after she was put on a bus.

>>158837616
>They stopped posting misinformation very shortly after it was corrected. He was also definitely taking every opportunity to shit on Remfags. He directly called himself cancer, so he knew what he was doing.

No some of them kept doing that and finally pissed him off. Remember it's like he came here there starting shit he was generally well respected by half anons and even other Remfags It's the militant part of you group that ruined things for everybody. Besides Translators are valuable commodity and we lucky to have have any after all the others guys we had just left.

>Remon generally doesn't shit on people or suck his own dick. He doesn't start circlejerks either. His presence in these threads is extremely unobtrusive. Comparing Spfag to Remonwater is probably the worst insult you could muster.

>Fuck you and fuck off.

Again it's not hard this Remfag circlejerk 80% of the time.

>>158837827
That's revisionism and I was there too and wasn't always like that. It only got like that at the end.

>>158838666
Does it matter? They ran away, so they could do whatever they want. Rem could fully monopolize his feelings since there was no Emilia to hold things back.

>>158838806
That guy translated From Zero and later Flugel Tree scenes and some stuff Arc 4 show that Subaru did indeed love her so that wouldn't make sense. The only people saying Subaru doesn't love someone are the Remfags.
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>>158839106
Fucking Mitrospeed
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>>158839320
If you look for the trip spfag in the archives I can accurately tell you that almost everything you said in 100% wrong. I'm also surprised you would be defending spfag of all people.

Unless...
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>>158839446
Spfag can actually read moonrunes and type out fluent English. ESL-kun here is just a jackass who acts like he knows more than anyone else, and would pull stupid shit like actively contradict things I had just read straight from the WN.
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>>158839526
>fluent English
not really no
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>>158839320
If only I had my spfag pastebin with me
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>>158839634
I remember the From Zero pastebin having cut out some crucial lines from it in an attempt to have it have less of an impact.
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>>158839320
>Rem could fully monopolize his feelings since there was no Emilia to hold things back.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Subaru and Rem almost suck face in this pic related?
Seems like when Subaru is with one girl, he would completely forget about the other girl, which is expected from a two timer by the way.
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>>158839624
I don't recall it being that bad. Though to be honest, I usually just blanked out when I saw a shitstorm going on. Usually between spfag and that one Remfag who was pointing out he was disregarding certain scenes. It was just a load of cancerous bullshit, though it eventually turned out that Remfag had a point. Though I think I do recall spfag would occasionally misunderstand what people were saying.

As annoying as that one angry Remfag was, I consider his presence preferable to spfags obnoxious arrogance. With or without translations. A translator who actively starts waifuwars isn't worth the trouble, especially if they start acting like a petty asshat.
>>158839772
I don't think the From Zero pastebin was directly his. It was a translation of a translation, and seemingly a rather loose one at that.
>>158839806
>Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Subaru and Rem almost suck face in this pic related?
You're not wrong at all. Subaru's attention was draw to her lips, hearts were racing, and shit was going to go down. Until the catfaggot ruined the moment.
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>>158839711
No you're just making conspiracy shit up. This exactly the problem lots of people have Remfags. Even anime portray that chapter nearly word for word and multiple WN readers and not just attest to it's accuracy which what Spfag translated.

But I've realized that if text isn't cherry picked to conform to your delusions it doesn't matter to some of you. Yet you wonder why you see so many SubaruxEmilia fanart and why Subaru says and does what he does for Emilia. Continue to make excuse for anything that doesn't go your way instead of accepting what is there. You're ones are gonna be crying about what every other person who wasn't being willfully ignorant knew about Subaru's feelings which will never be just for Rem in the MU.
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>>158839806
>Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Subaru and Rem almost suck face in this pic related?

Yeah, and he still loved Emilia who also kissed.

>Seems like when Subaru is with one girl, he would completely forget about the other girl,

He wasn't thinking about Rem at all in his scene with Emilia and even when he was dying. SO it goes both ways?

>which is expected from a two timer by the way.
No much of two timer when one of the partners has was one not only to express interest polygamy and but planned convince the other partner herself. Suabru and Rem had already consented to it, it's just Emilia if ever comes up again. Rem bringing up will always remain true and the onus is on her.
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>>158840104
Honestly, you might have a point buried somewhere deep in that shit. But still, please shut the fuck up and go away. Other people have been able to have this conversation in a more civil manner. You just shit things up.

Do other Emiliafags even like you?
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>>158822985
Zero.
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>>158840313
>He wasn't thinking about Rem at all in his scene with Emilia and even when he was dying. SO it goes both ways?

What is the cathedral and giving up on his lost loop?
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>>158840442
Of course I have point. It's you who needs to stop lying to yourself. I'm sure anyone who gives a shit about the accuracy of the story and not their headcanon likes me. Waifufaggory or not. I ain't even shitting on Rem because the story has been written his feeling aren't contradicted by loving either girl.

For good measure here is the how the two felt after the 2nd kiss scene in Arc 4 chapter 110:

>It is unlike his first time, with its cold taste of DEATH. His second kiss tastes of LIFE, hot.
In simultaneous movement, their lips separate.

>They draw their faces away from each other, both forgetting to breathe as they gaze at the other.

>Flushed cheeks. Watery eyes. The him reflected in Emilia's eyes also looks entirely enchanted.

>The pathetic expression leads Subaru to come back to his senses first, him remembering how to breathe as he proceeds.

>Subaru: “I love you.”

That's not look or feel of person putting up pretense. Especially expose to all the flaws of the person their affection.

If your on "Emilia is shit and Rem is wining train" of course you won't like it.
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>>158840557
That happened before he met Emilia. Now he just wanted to die by her side.
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>>158840693
>It's you who needs to stop lying to yourself.
Honestly, I don't participate in waifuwars. I just participate in telling you to fuck off.
>I'm sure anyone who gives a shit about the accuracy of the story and not their headcanon likes me.
No. I really don't like you much at all.
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Holy fuck, spfag really was an autistic cancer. Why are all Shitmiliamongs rabid faggots who always have to shit on Rem?
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>>158840942
9/10 this is spfag
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>>158840835
>Honestly, I don't participate in waifuwars. I just participate in telling you to fuck off.

Then you can fuck off, because you just admit you are a shitposter. An actual well reasoned neutral party would side on those of the text regardless who it is from. Tappe's word trumps interpretation.

>No. I really don't like you much at all.

Likewise. But only because you said it first. I'm not petty enough to hate somebody I don't know.
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>>158840942
Where is anyone shitting on Rem? By saying Suabru loves Emilia too? Is that what you call shitting Rem? Then Tappei has been doing it since the start of this series.

Christ, cut it out with faux victim complex.
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>Rem will never love you
Why live.
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>>158841009
>because you just admit you are a shitposter.
Nope. I just think everything you say is entirely unproductive because of your attitude. You regularly misunderstand what people say and act like you know more than you do. You may occasionally have points, but they're never points anyone is actually unfamiliar with. Because you don't actually know anything more than anyone else.

You contribute nothing meaningful besides the same tired old arguments over frivolous nonsense. So get out.
>Likewise. But only because you said it first. I'm not petty enough to hate somebody I don't know.
Please stop talking like you're an especially rational person. I know from personal experience that anyone who talks like that had their head firmly lodged up their own ass.
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>>158840693
After reading what Emilia believed about kisses, that scene takes on a whole new layer of mind blown.
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All Emiliafags should fuck off and die.
>come into a thread for the Rem/Subaru novel and start vomiting all over the place
Disgusting.
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>>158840693
>Those descriptions of Subaru and Emilia's kiss
I really wish Subaru and Rem's kiss, if ever there's one, will be just as good. But eh Subaru and Rem kissing is the thing I least expect so I'm sad now.
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>>158841237
>You regularly misunderstand what people say and act like you know more than you do

You have regularly posting lies, like "Rem is wining" and Subaru only kissed Emilia for some calculated Machiavellian reasons and doesn't love her. That's own words. What is there to misunderstand?

>You may occasionally have points

Everything I had said is either based on the text or from it. I did without of having to discredit Subaru's love Rem unlike the opposition.

>Because you don't actually know anything more than anyone else

My points have nothing to do with me knowing more than anyone else. You read the chapters where my support comes from yourself.

>You contribute nothing meaningful besides the same tired old arguments over frivolous nonsense. So get out.

Coming from the side who speaks about nothing but oni-babies and occasionally shitting on Emilia? No you get out.

>Please stop talking like you're an especially rational person. I know from personal experience that anyone who talks like that had their head firmly lodged up their own ass.

I'm more rational than you at least. Don't need to shit another ship to support my ship thank. Because all my evidence is in the text.
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>>158841280
This not Rem:Zero so no.

>>158841450
Tappei's a good writer who great these type of scenes in general. I'm sure it will be just as good. Heck the Rem IF stuff is pretty damn sold.
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>>158841494
>That's own words. What is there to misunderstand?
Whose own words? I've never said anything of the sort.
>Coming from the side who speaks about nothing but oni-babies and occasionally shitting on Emilia? No you get out.
I've had my best lore discussions with the resident Remfags of these threads. It's you, and the other people who do nothing but complain about Remfags, who get in the way.
>Don't need to shit another ship to support my ship thank.
Sorry, you have me confused for someone else. I just don't talk about the things that don't interest me. I'm just sick of you dragging waifuwars into everything.
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How the fuck is this stupid retard still posting, I've been gone for 12 hours.
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is WN translator anon busy or something?
chapters were being released daily a week ago but now we haven't had anything since the 16th.
Is he working on a bunch at once maybe?
I need muh fix
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>>158822985
No, the entire world could collectively fight Reinhard and he would lose, but only because he would give up if the whole world banded against him and not because he's incapable of winning. He is effectively invincible.
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>>158842226
I'm not specifically sure what he's up to now, but he's capable of releasing a chapter a day if he's not busy, which seems to indicate that he is. Even if its with frivolous things like distracting himself with games he's sort of earned it because that productivity is insane.

I also need my fix
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>>158841921
>I've had my best lore discussions with the resident Remfags of these threads. It's you, and the other people who do nothing but complain about Remfags, who get in the way.

You're faux ignorance isn't gonna work me dude.

>Sorry, you have me confused for someone else. I just don't talk about the things that don't interest me. I'm just sick of you dragging waifuwars into everything.

Sure, whatever you say buddy.

>>158842162
I'm here whenever I want. Things have been fine when certain anons aren't shitting things for no reason beyond being salty.

Why don't you try being constructive post something instead do whining about other people? Nobody is stopping you.
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>>158842226
That's what I've been wondering myself. Otherwise I'm just waiting on HQ volume 13 scans and spoilers that won't come until a couple of days.
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>>158842269
I agree, he a pretty cool dude for doing all this translating so quickly.
he says to not expect much as he dose it pretty much on the fly without reviewing much but all the translations he's done are very readable and it would be very hard to find any bias in his translation.
he's the hero we need but not the one we deserve
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>>158842298
Autism.
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Rem is a shitty waifu
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>>158842298
>Sure, whatever you say buddy.
I'm sure that sounded cooler in your head.
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>>158841537
>This not Rem:Zero so no.
>Topic of the thread is Rem Natsuki IF
>Come into the thread to yell at people to shut up about Rem and that they shouldn't talk about Rem in a thread about the Rem IF
>Have literally nothing else to talk about and don't put up a new or different topic of conversation or participate in the minor conversations that aren't about Rem
Emiliafag logic. Here's an idea, if you want to talk about something else, start talking about something else and see if people join you, instead of bitching that people are talking about a thing you don't want to talk about and hate while having nothing to actually talk about.

Even the fucking catfag is better because he just doesn't participate in talks that don't involve Felix/Crush Camp but doesn't make stupid demands that people stop talking about Re: Zero in Re: Zero threads.

And before you say something dumb like 'nobody does that'
>>158824175
>S-stop talking about Rem! Talk about something else, no I have no idea what the book says because I refuse to read anything so I can't actually have a discussion, just stop talking about Rem in a thread about the Rem IF!
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>>158842397
He just copied me from the earlier thread, its cute watching him try and steal new phrases like he understands them.
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>>158842390
Rem is literally the best waifu of all time. Kill yourself.
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>>158842298
>Why don't you try being constructive post something instead do whining about other people? Nobody is stopping you.
You have literally said nothing in the 30+ posts you've been spamming for the last twelve hours. Literally nothing. Not a shred of discussion, no insights, literally. nothing.

Your incredible contribution is to deny that you are the idiot you obviously are, because your posting style is so uniquely shit that I have literally never seen another person on the entirety of 4chan that is worse.
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If someone created a Markov bot that generated sentences from ESL's posts and posted them in this thread, would anyone be able to tell the difference?
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>>158842554
Probably not, although his exact brand of ESL stupid is actually pretty hard to replicate, which is why its so obvious when its him. I threatened to make a bot of the catfag back in the day because that would be much easier and no one would be able to tell the difference.
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>>158840756
Anon I really hope you understood the context of that scene narratively rather than isolating it to fit your bias.
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>>158842602
>I threatened to make a bot of the catfag back in the day because that would be much easier and no one would be able to tell the difference.
Well, he usually only makes about three different types of posts. If I ever bothered paying attention to him for ten minutes, I could probably do a perfect impersonation.

On the other hand, ESL's pattern is in how his English fluctuates from "terrible" to "someone could make a meme out of this".
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>>158842406
>Topic of the thread is Rem Natsuki IF

Stop. You are either a dumbass or a newfag. It has never worked this way. Fuck off.

>
Even the fucking catfag is better because he just doesn't participate in talks that don't involve Felix/Crush Camp but doesn't make stupid demands that people stop talking about Re: Zero in Re: Zero threads.

Speak for yourself Remfag. At least Catfag doesn't' act like he own a fucking thread on /a/ of all places. Don't tell other people what to do.

>>158842446
How boy we got a real narcissist here. One who so arrogant to think he invented a common phase. You're fucked in the head.

>>158842488
Speaking of the idiot who starting shit even after the thread has calmed down. Pathetic.

>>158842652
Understood it plenty. It's trying to shove your bias to force something that isn't' there. It's not like you even need to do this prove something that comes out of Subaru's own mouth.
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>>158843547
>Title: Arc 6

>Emilia: The original plan was to come to the Pleides watchtower to save Rem, Julius, and the others that had been hurt by Gluttony, but because of the difficulty of the second layer, Julius' defeat, Ram being sick, problems with the food supply, etc... On top of that, it turns out that it was actually Echidna inside Anastasia, and if we don't do something about it, her life is in danger. And Subaru, our cornerstone, has lost his memory...?

>Emilia: No problem! It's times like this that calm us down!

>Beatrice: We're completely used to problems like this, I suppose.

>text beside Beatrice: Good grief, you know.

>text to Subaru's right: These two are

>text to Subaru's left: way too mentally strong...

>Meili: Looks like trouble, indeed.

>Shaula: Looks like trouble, uhuh.

>lower-left caption: the broken ones
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Why are Emiliafags so prone to blatant contradictions?
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Is Vol 13 the end of Arc 4? The volume's final chapter title is the same as web chapter 117 and the arc ends at around chapter 130.
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>>158844034
No him but where?
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>>158842446
Bit self-centred don't ya think?
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>>158844364
The entire argument with the spfag apologist is very sad
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>>158844068
No, it most likely won't end until vol 15.
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>>158844034
Irrelevant when remturd has no chance of winning, as expected of generic waifubait.
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>>158844476
Where would volume 14 end then?
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>>158844480
I was sure there was another shitposter missing
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>>158844425
Just because you hate Spfag doesn't make what I said about him contradictory.

Beyond that instead of talking about irrelevant things such as people who are no longer or other posters, you could know discuss the series or do what this guy >>158843547 did.

Seriously, give it a rest
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>>158844525
We have all the shitposters except cat faggot
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>>158844506
Probably halfway between the Subaru and Emilia chapters. Betty's backstory needs to be addressed to since it's most likely not in this volume.

>>158844525
Only person shitposting is you for starting up this shit again. No had said towards Remfags for awhile and there you go. Don't pretend you don't instigate.
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>>158844588

How many times do I have to say this: I am not a shitposter. Me posting things that you don't like doesn't make me a shitposter.
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>>158844724
"Rem is a waifubait" is recurring bullshit and you know it
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>>158845055
So is the "Subaru doesn't love Emilia and the kiss don't matter" that was shit was going on. Both side do the same shit so you lsoe the moral ground here.

Moreover it was response to this >>158844034
which wasn't called. If you don't' want fights... just stop asking for one? Just let this thread die if you can't contribute productively. Bashing others has nothing to do with Re:Zero
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>>158845173
>Subaru doesn't love Emilia and the kiss don't matter

Not him but I don't think you understand, nobody says Subaru doesn't love Emilia other than shitposters, which can be spotted easily. What people do say are that his love stems from X, weather it be a hero complex or something else, there are even those who argue Subaru's love as childish, which can be legitimately argued plus that those kisses were not in the grounds of genuinity not that they did not count. Since everyone acknowledges that both Subaru and Emilia kissed, but rather their main gripe about it is that it was out of necessity rather what happened in comparison to Subaru and Rem's near-kiss. There are also the tugging of the rope whether Subaru loves both equally since he clearly treats one of the two more affectionately.

Also need I remind you that the fight was brought here much earlier and tempers are still flaring from one obvious individual.
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>>158845806
I might also add that anons are also now frustrated due to being unable to talk about the series due to the hair triggers that appear on these threads. Chapter discussion died down and since the "vibe" of these threads have been soiled in compensation as to not attract anyone that would a start a shitfest. Namely one who argues for literally 3 days on the same points that have been addressed to over and over again. With people being tired as to trying to just enjoy the series.
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I just finished the anime. Why is Suburu immortal and why is he in a parallel world? Is there going to be a second season?
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>>158846057
>Is there going to be a second season?
Nope.
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>>158823068
Congratulations
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>>158846057
>Suburu immortal and why is he in a parallel world?
Immortal due to RbD that was given to by Satella we don't know her real motive behind everything is, or at least the WoE.
>second season?
I hope if its going to be done by the same studio
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>>158846057
Well Subaru isn't technically immortal his consciousness travels from differing timeline according to Echidna but its just pure speculation at this point. Other than that RbD is being used for something real shady.
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>>158846152
*I hope not
I mean
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New collaboration! It's time to grind again.
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>>158846495
Divine gate is probably the most boring mobile game I have ever played.
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>>158847499

I'm liking it so far.
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>>158846152
Didnt Satella give him RbD so he can kill her one day?
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I haven't read anything in like 6 months. Last time I read was arc 4 chapter 91. Does that random anon still translate for us/his friend? Anyone got the mega link for that arc so I can pick back up?
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But I wanted Ferri.
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>>158847682
https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg
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>>158843664
Been playing the trails series these days, so i've not been coming over to translate new comics when they pop up, sorry about that.
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>>158847870
Thanks, I appreciate it.
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This thread is the most cancerous thing I've ever seen and you should feel bad
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>>158847979
Just some slightly small clean up on the bottom.
>>158848099
Remfags are way too jumpy over the smallest shit, and the baiters know that so the threads turn to shit real fast. That, or people that want to discuss something, and if it even remotely talks down on Rem, or Subaru's love for her, everyone goes full retard.
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>>158848089
No problem anon, have a good read.
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Where's Arc 5 chapter 4?
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>>158848333
anon's taking a break of something, remain calm
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>>158848361
Again?
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>>158848599
he's doing it for free, he could just read through it all and not worry about any of us but he still does it anyway because he loves us
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>>158848099
Blame the damage controlling Remfags.
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>>158848099
>>158848126
>>158848683
Come on, what would we do without the Remfags that get triggered at anything that isn't their waifu?
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anyone want to discuss arc 5 chapter 2, the betty dialouges were hilarious and cute.
“After participating in your training and being manhandled by this cat, Betty is exhausted,
I suppose... Subaru, carry me, in fact.” Beatrice spreads her arms out, reaching for Subaru, and he scoops her into his arms.

2cute
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>>158849071
Subaru, Emilia, and Otto are fully occupying the seat opposite Joshua and Mimi. They could
scooch together to open room for Beatrice, but it would look lame. And so Beatrice promptly seats
herself on Subaru's lap.
Subaru naturally loops his hands around Beatrice's waist, making sure she won't fall.
Subaru: “Now, finally getting to the main topic...”
Joshua: “P-Please wait! Who is this girl?”

<3
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>>158849071
Everyone was great in these three chapters.
“It's obvious what I mean, in fact. Precursors are destined to be excelled, I suppose. His best place is as an ornament on the glorious road that Subaru and I—nhaaha!”
Smug Beako is adorable
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>>158822465
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Cute Ferri poster
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I want reddit to leave
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Ferri is the cutest, kindest, and purest.
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>>158854042
No on all accounts
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>>158854073

Who is cuter, who is kinder, who is purer?
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>>158854415
Well, a whole ton of characters are kinder, Emilia is the purest while Rem is the cutest.

To further emphasize how I differentiate waifus. Rem is cute, Emilia is beautiful, Ram is sexy.
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>>158854587

No on all accounts
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>>158854667
How the fuck would he be purer than Emilia
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>>158854767
How the fuck would someone like him even be defined as pure?
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>>158854767

By being.
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>>158854042
>>158854415
>>158854667
>>158854807
Fuck off catfag.
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>>158848126
>Remfags are way too jumpy over the smallest shit, and the baiters know that so the threads turn to shit real fast. That, or people that want to discuss something, and if it even remotely talks down on Rem, or Subaru's love for her, everyone goes full retard.
Eh, I find that to be half-true at best. I could go on and on explaining my particular dislike of one particular poster, but it basically comes down to him being more of a sperg than the worst Remfag I know here. Who is also pretty bad.

This one particular poster has a habit of claiming I meant something other than what I did, and that things I say are just some kind of code for insulting Emilia. I've alluded to scenes that he's never read before, talking about how they add to characterization, and he's jumped down my throat and dismissed them as insignificant while accusing me of insulting his waifu. Which I never actually did in the entire conversation.

I was content to ignore him before then, but I justifiably dislike it when people stuff words into my mouth, act like they know more than me when they actually don't, and start shitting on entire conversations because they don't think people get to have opinions. He makes it difficult to talk about Rem, Emilia, or things that have little connection to either. Nothing he's said has ever been remotely productive.

I had a more productive conversation with the guy who called me a retard, because he wanted people to talk about something other than Rem and got pissy when they didn't do it the way he liked. And that guy was a shit.
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>>158823738
>>158823776
That'd be nice but I doubt the cuck sisters can do any shit.
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Sleepy Ferri is the Miracle Of The Universe.
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>>158855256
I bet your parents beat you as a kid for being a huge faggot
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>>158854929
Christ, at some point I'm going to have to fucking archive posts and categorize them so we finally stop with these half-assed answers of "nothing is actually happening in these threads, guiz".
It's sometimes sad that these are anonymous boards, otherwise I could also show that "it's the same 2-3 guys stirring shit" is just a meme.
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>>158855453

I bet you got detention all the time for being a huge bully.
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I love Ferri and Crusch-sama.
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>>158855473
>otherwise I could also show that "it's the same 2-3 guys stirring shit" is just a meme.
It usually is the same 2-3 guys, unless they have very similar typing styles and use the exact same arguments. Do you think Catfaggot is more than one person?
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>>158855721

Bro, I'm not stirring shit.
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>>158855765
I know you're not, but I'm using you as an example of someone with an extremely recognizable posting style. Whenever you post, we can tell it's you.
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>>158855721
Actually there should be at least another one though I'm not sure if the second one's just trolling
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Pretty
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>>158855871

I'm your only Ferribro here.
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>>158855721
No, they're not the same 2-3 people anyway. Your view of "writing styles" and "arguments" is flawed for very simple reasons, e.g. the arguments are recycled because there are literally just those few arguments, the writing styles don't change because there's no creative writing involved besides the minimum necessary (we also write one liners mostly).
If there wasn't something telling us how many posters there are in this thread, I could easily say there are like 4-5 Remfags, just because it's easy to recycle everything we say here.
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>>158855948
No, I'm talking about the spacing between lines, quality of English, and regular appeals to how much better the Japanese fanbase is.
>I could easily say there are like 4-5 Remfags, just because it's easy to recycle everything we say here.
True, but that's generally because there's nothing particularly distinctive about our typing styles. I rather doubt every particularly touchy Emiliafag is an illiterate. That's just the one we have here.
>>158855871
Catfaggot always has a space at the top of his posts.
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Hey everyone. Is there a mega link with all the epubs? I know I am retarded but I just can't find anything. Would greatly appreciate any help anons.

Or am I searching for the wrong thing? Did the translations start from anime ending?
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Does anyone have that list of buffs Reinhard has activated at all times?
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>>158856233
https://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
Read the available Arc 3 Interludes and Arc 4 chapters on TranslationChicken, and when you run out, move to anon.
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>>158856171
>No, I'm talking about the spacing between lines, quality of English, and regular appeals to how much better the Japanese fanbase is.
>to how much better the Japanese fanbase is.
>I rather doubt every particularly touchy Emiliafag is an illiterate. That's just the one we have here.
I'm not sure what you get from people claiming the Japanese fanbase is better, I'm really thinking your method is rather faulty, but sure, whatever.
You can keep on thinking there's only one Emiliafag that is shitting themselves, suit yourself.
>>158856233
No epubs, only pdfs.
https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg
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>>158856298
>http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/141268110/#141280228
>http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/141268110/#141280768
>>158855948
>the writing styles don't change because there's no creative writing involved besides the minimum necessary (we also write one liners mostly).
He regularly replies with walls of text
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It's useless to discuss with the catfags, they're like deranged religious fanatics and would argue against reality without a flinch

They would say that Felix is extremely nice even if he were to repeatedly gratuitously insult people (which he does)
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>>158856368
>>158856369
Thanks so much!
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>>158856369
>I'm not sure what you get from people claiming the Japanese fanbase is better,
He always uses the same argument and bring up the subject of fanart. Seems to have only exposed himself to a few venues of discussion, but acts like he understands the Japanese fanbase completely.
>You can keep on thinking there's only one Emiliafag that is shitting themselves, suit yourself.
There are plenty of Emiliafags who are just fine, so I'd rather take the optimistic approach and say it's one guy. Otherwise, they're all deliberately imitating a particularly awful posting style.
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>>158856530
>>158856577
>he
>He always uses
>it's still one single guy
You people.
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>>158856734
Well, it might be two. There was a slight change in the awful spacing of his posts. However, I'm not sure if that actually means anything, or he just made a minor correction. But yes. It's probably one guy, and I'm pretty sure I actually know who he is.
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To summarize, the two anon posters taught me:
>there's one emiliafag that keeps on stirring shit
>there's one remfag but we don't know for sure that keeps on stirring shit
>there's one catfag that tells us the truth about how amazing Ferri is
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>>158856548

But Ferri truly is extremely nice
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>>158856839
Is he the guy we call ESL___?
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>>158856883
Nah, there are multiple Emiliafags. Most keep quiet because events have built up a hostile atmosphere towards Emiliafags, which is a shame. ESL is his own unique entity.

Catfaggot, not to be compared with Felixfags in general, is always immediately recognizable. Just look at how the lines are spaced there. He'll usually say things like "Ferri" or "bro". He's an alright guy most of the time. >>158857049

As for Remfags? There's one who gets really fucking angry, who I believe is one of the guy's who would always argue with spfag. Pair him up with any prickly Emiliafag, and we get 600 posts of bullshit. There may be more than one of him, because I mostly recognize him by how touchy he gets. Not sure what his relation is to the "Rem is winning" crowd, who I assume are the same people who say Emilia and Subaru's relationship is forced. Aside from those, you have the segment which is generally more chill.
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>>158842237
I hope one day there'll be someone that can defeat Reinhard and proceed to humiliate him until he finally kills himself. Life's been going easy on him so its about time he got a taste of suffering and misery.
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>>158857381
Of course he is. I'm sure in his head that he's the one sane man in a world gone mad.
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Man, people really like that cover.
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These threads are on the brink of destruction. Emiliafags run rampant in the lands, the rivers flow red in bad English, and discussion is entirely meta.
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>>158857390
>He's an alright guy most of the time.
So when is he not?
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>>158857638
When he gets mad when I make fun of Felix
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>>158857554
Yeah, I'm sick of it already. I've said what I said. So, let's return to relevant conversation. What are you expecting from the IF? What kind of shit do you hope to see?
>>158857638
When he starts drawing pictures of Rem getting raped.
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>>158857710
Speaking of IFs, any good moments in Arc 5 for Wrath or Gluttony to branch off?
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>>158857390
Make up your mind, you faggot. So there are multiple people stirring shit:
>Nah, there are multiple Emiliafags. Most keep quiet
>BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL
>Not sure what his relation is to the "Rem is winning" crowd, who I assume are the same people who say Emilia and Subaru's relationship is forced
>>158857554
This faggot up here is a fine example of shit stirring retard.
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>>158857554
Are you deliberately trying to start shit again? Sure ESL is bad but you faggots are always the ones who start the arguments so kindly fuck off so we can go back to having nice threads.
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>>158857824
Hrm. I haven't read through Arc 5, but obviously we need an IF where Subaru shirks his responsibilities as strategist and disregards the lives of the men under his command, so he can go fight Gluttony himself.
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>>158857710
>What are you expecting from the IF?
>tons of useless interactions that add no value to character development since the IF is non-canon.
>some hints that might or might not be relevant to the main story.
>cool (but also useless?) worldbuilding.
I enjoy it overall but it'a shame that it's just an IF.
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Tappei still hasn't retweeted this pic. Please do...
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>I'm not the problem! You are!
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Remfags really need to leave if you guys are going to start shit and not let people enjoy the series there is s reason why people call it Re:Undertale due to how cancerous you faggots are
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>>158857955
That sounds great. But if we get an IF where he actually kills Ley it would need to be after Rem wakes up/dies since he shouldn't spoil whether killing him would actually work
>>158858018
>add no value to character development since the IF is non-canon
Not really development but seeing alternate sides to character always adds something valuable. Same logic as the loops in the MU
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As someone who doesnt read the LN, someone gibe me a run down on all the good spoilers
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>>158858187
>seeing alternate sides to character always adds something valuable.
Like what?
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>>158857871
>So there are multiple people stirring shit:
Most of that shit stirring is background noise, not huge walls of text or attacks on subjects of conversation. I usually ignore bullshit until someone starts getting angry that people are even talking about a subject they don't like. Even then, that's only if they're persistent.
>BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL
Well, duh. But someone who says, "I think Emilia is cute and nice, and very interesting" is different from a wall of text in barely comprehensible English.
>>158858018
I generally don't measure these matters in pure practical value. However, the hints in the story really do add nothing unless they somehow tie into the MU.
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>>158858183
So you guys moved in and are forcing the residents out? I've been here long enough to know you fags haven't been in here for very long.
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>>158858183
They are to obssessed with non canon material because of ship bias rather than translating other side chapters that have actual impact
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>>158858232

When Ferri was born, he was locked in his family's mansion basement for 9 years because he had cat ears. Then Crusch-sama saved him.
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>>158858236
Showing sides of them we wouldn't see in the MU to increase our understanding of them and adding more weight to the relationships and decisions in MU.
Ayamatsu probably less so because everything is so fucked to a comical extent just because Subaru was too dumb to call for guards
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>>158858421
Ayamatsu shows different sides of Elsa.
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>>158858232
Emilia kissed Subaru and Rem gets erased by Ley
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>>158858421
>Showing sides of them we wouldn't see in the MU
But those sides are non-canon.
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>>158858232
Emilia is Stella and Subaru is Flugel
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>>158858232
There is a solid argument on why Subaru loves Rem more than Emilia.
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>>158858350
oh look it's this faggot again, learn japanese and translate stuff unlike faggots like you rembros are translating stuff
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>>158858269
Long time residents or not you people are the reason why the fanbase is dying the cancer and insecurity on these threads are what stops people from dicussing
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>>158857925
Literally the entire first half of this thread is ESL not fucking shutting up after spending literally an entire previous thread not shutting up. But yeah everyone else *always* starts the arguments, poor wittle ESL is just a victim.
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>>158858550
>people acting differently in different situations isn't canon
You must be retarded, anon.
It's the situations that aren't canon, but those facets of their personalities you don't see in the canon material are.
>>158858269
>>158858608
Fuck off, you shit stirring faggots.
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>>158858232
>Savouring the sensation of teeth biting all across his body at once, Subaru was now keenly experiencing the pain of over one hundred creatures ingesting him simultaneously.
>He shrieks. Rolled onto his back and looking to the sky, his throat trembles. A fuzzy little creature instantly encroaches inside his opened mouth. It shreds apart his tongue, sharp teeth piercing the back of his throat, gnashing down his oesophagus to his stomach.
>It internally collides with another which invaded from his rectum, their competition displacing his slivered organs to and fro, turning Natsuki Subaru to mince.
>>158858550
I'm not going to argue that it canonically matters but I would assume lots of events from the IF can be applied to MU like Ferri becoming a broken fucktoy if he didn't meet Crusch or Reinhard and Heinkel's relationship being better without Wilhelm.
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>>158858639
Then came him saying that spfag was a victim as well and didnt du nuffin wrong, and thats where the ball got rolling really. Why defend spfag of all people, seriously.
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>>158858550
They show how the behavior could change in different circumstances. So we know things like how Rem could be quite good with kids if she tried, or what a nightmare Subaru could become if he totally lost it and clung to an obsession as the sole thing that gave his life meaning.
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OOOOOPS
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>>158858187
>Same logic as the loops in the MU
Characters in the MU and IFs are not the same so they are incomparable. The characters in IF are OOC to begin with (since they behaved and acted differently so the story would branch off and lead to the IF scenarios), so what they do in those IFs would barely affect their characterization in the main story.
But then it's pretty cool to see different story branches with IFs so I kinda like that, like Echidna likes using Subaru to take different paths and study them.
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>>158858786
>The characters in IF are OOC to begin with (since they behaved and acted differently so the story would branch off and lead to the IF scenarios)
You do understand how people's personalities work, right?
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>>158858632
Actually that would be you. We literally can't discuss anything regarding the main plot because you butthurt twats won't shut up about your waifu Emilia. The relationship between her and Subaru is fucked up. The story literally says, at multiple points, that it is fucked up. Subaru continually tries to make it better and 'real' and it still continues to be fucked up to the point that our status quo is a non relationship because neither him nor Emilia are even capable of being in one. And you idiots hold this up as the pinnacle of romance and won't let anyone point out that the author is clearly doing this for some reason but we don't know what yet because its end game.

So then its like, fine, we can't talk about the main plot or main heroine at all so lets talk about other stuff. OH WAIT, any mention of Rem at all is an affront to Emilia so you gotta jump in there to talk shit or talk about how much better at everything Emilia is or how dead Rem is or other stupid shit even if nobody mentioned her in 3 threads.

You want to know why discussion is dying? Because there is literally an entire half the plot, the supposed MAIN PLOT that we simply cannot talk about or speculate about because you fucks are insecure that your perfect main heroine waifu isn't actually perfect, WHICH WAS LITERALLY THE POINT OF AN ARC.
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Ferri is so pretty
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>>158858615
Fuck off all we here in these threads ever since the anime ended is rem rem rem rem and I am sick of it at least with spfag there was actual discussion going on even if he was cancer
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>>158858861
this
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>>158858861
So you're that really touchy Remfag then.
The anon posters were right, you might just be one person.
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>>158858892
>the most popular character is discussed the most
gee wiz
>>158858915
>let me disregard his argument and pass it off as invalid
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>>158858861
Which is all getting retconned in the LN
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>>158858786
>The characters in IF are OOC to begin with (since they behaved and acted differently so the story would branch off and lead to the IF scenarios),
No, they're another possible choice they could've made. The entire point of the IFs is 'given X, how would the characters react'
You could maybe argue the initial change is OOC but after that the characters will behave as they would given their new circumstances.
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>>158858969
What is? Prove it.
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Holy shit what is happening here?
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>>158858969
wouldn't even be surprised desu
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>>158858969
Rem's side might but while Emilia got some more development it doesn't seem she's going to actually get better romance wise.
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>>158858969
The Subaru confessing to Rem is still in
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>>158858969
No, everything is still fucked up in the LN. He still spergs in arc 3, he still gets From Zero'd, he still gets decked by Otto. We'll have to wait until the end of the arc to see if he has Katawa dick still, but its likely.
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>>158858960
What argument? You're recycling the same old garbage. See here:
>>158857390
>Not sure what his relation is to the "Rem is winning" crowd, who I assume are the same people who say Emilia and Subaru's relationship is forced. Aside from those, you have the segment which is generally more chill.
You're in full force.
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>>158858833
Their behaviors in the IFs are still in character, but because they made some decisions that they would never do in the main story so they should also be considered OOC.
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>>158859035
Either she does on this current arc, or only on arc 9 or 10. Now is the perfect setup for her to actually get that side of hers developed because of Subaru's memory loss and some foreshadowing that RbD's failed loops might be revealed to some characters during Arc 6.
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>>158858997
Mincing words and adding more Emilia scenes rather putting on goggles just look at how every aspect of Rem romance is slowly getting written out by tappei to be irrelevant. He wrote himself a hole and is trying to get back on track with his original plotline of saving Emilia.
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Bros, could you please be really really really really really kind and help me to get this Ferri story translated?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/77jqa7kpt0gll81/AACc1yw_vyfIYF02le5R9Hcra?dl=0
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>>158859093
>Their behaviors in the IFs are still in character, but because they made some decisions that they would never do in the main story so they should also be considered OOC.
This is pure contradiction unless you're going to deny the IFs are a possibility.
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>>158859050
But everything else is pulled out except the carmilla scene so I dont see your point there
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>>158859093
>they made some decisions that they would never do in the main story
It might be Tappei adding some outside influence to help steer the decisions. Since he never specifies what exactly changed.
Subaru not accepting Echidna in the first place was because the other Witches interfered after all.
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>>158858915
This'll be fun. Go ahead, you say you know who I am, link all my posts.
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>>158859079
The very beginning of their relationship is forced? With Subaru being thrown in as her "savior" and he had the whole "knight in shining armor" mentality, and Emilia doesn't reciprocate at all she just goes "I don't understand".

>“You see? I’m like, if she has to end up with someone, might as well be me, even if I’m ‘unworthy.’ It might take a lot of persistence, but that’s my win-win ideal.”
>“You certainly act according to some very amusing logic. >Fascinating, really. However, in the end I am a mere driver. I do not think I shall be of much service."

And in the WN his motives were less their ideal with him just trying to lose his virginity.

>>158859246
>Witch of lust scene
>post white whale confession
You're probably just going to call me optimistic, even if they cut small details the groundwork is still there.
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>>158859259
Right, because that changes anything in what I said, you're still really touchy and retarded. Recycling the same old again.
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>>158858892
bullshit it was always remfags who talked about the story when the anime aired,
>in these threads ever since the anime ended is rem rem rem rem

then fuck off to plebbit like the other shitmiliafags, ESLfags is also from there, and most majority of the readers are remfags deal with it, it's not different in chinese or japanese forums either
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I want to know how many people are here right now. Lurkers can answer too.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13267529
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>>158859158
No, I'd say he's actually smart.
>wrote WN with lots of Rem romance in it to convince people that Rem romance is guaranteed.
>slowly retcons Rem romance in LN to pave the way for his Emilia romance.
>Remfags will keep buying his shit thinking the LN will still follow WN despite all the changes, but it ends up that Emilia will win at the end of the story.
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>>158859079
>who I assume are the same people who say Emilia and Subaru's relationship is forced.
It IS forced. Subaru is literally forcing it. He forces lots of things, its what he does. He's greedy, he won't give up on something just because it turned out to be shit. And yes, he does this to Rem as well for certain things, like the haircut promise. It is a not uncommon theory here AND in Japan that Subaru is being manipulated to having feelings for Emilia by Satella. I personally don't subscribe to that theory, but its a common enough interpretation that its at least giving off that sort of vibe.

But no, instead of talking about why the relationship is screwy, seeing what that maybe means, and then maybe finding new acceptance of it or parts that work, we can't have any of that. Because nooooooooo muh Emilia is just as good as a stupid potato, her fucked up relationship that was called fucked up has always been good, it didn't get torpedoed and rebuilt twice it was alwaaaaaaaays perfect.
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>>158859451
I'm just going to tell you the threads are at half population compared to the Arc 4 threads.
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>>158859357
So you claim to know that I'm 'that one guy' but you can't actually identify 'that one guy'

An Emiliafag is a complete idiot, I'm fucking shocked.
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>>158859377
Speaking of touchy remfags
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>>158859560
nice namecalling
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>>158859505
How do you know? The amount of IPs is about the same.
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>>158859250
>It might be Tappei adding some outside influence to help steer the decisions.
Canon Rem will never abandon her sister and "the real Subaru." What could make her think differently and come up with the decision to run away?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13267620
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>>158859695
Not him but before it was a regular 100 to 120 posters now it has been cut effectively by half ever since the near christmas of chapter 79 or at least has been on the declince since then.
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>>158859246
He still spergs out at Satella for calling him Subaru-kun.

Honestly though, the problems with Emilia's characterization aren't something that's fixed by screentime or trying to make her look more sympathetic or strong. I feel that's taking the wrong angle. Garfiel and Otto have some pretty fucking lame backstories, but I generally prefer their characters because they actually set up a fun little web of character interactions.

So far, I actually don't like Freddie or Petra all that much, though Petra has a leg up because of how she interacts with Betty.
>>158859757
It's impossible to tell. Subaru didn't even tell her that Ram was in danger at any point in the WN, until after From Zero. Chances are that he was somehow more convincing about the matter.
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>>158859353
>The very beginning of their relationship is forced? With Subaru being thrown in as her "savior" and he had the whole "knight in shining armor" mentality, and Emilia doesn't reciprocate at all she just goes "I don't understand".
Is this you taking everything being discussed here out of context or is it just me not understanding your clearly complex train of thought?
When someone mentions a "forced relationship", no one is talking about how they met up, rather how they've ended up being together or how they'll end up being together.
>And in the WN his motives were less their ideal with him just trying to lose his virginity.
Lust does not deny love for another, and lust is pretty much the first step towards finding a mate (AKA "love"), except in extreme fringe cases.
>>158859493
>It IS forced. Subaru is literally forcing it.
How?
>he won't give up on something just because it turned out to be shit.
So that means that his feelings for Emilia aren't a thing? How? How does this prove anything? Actually:
>t is a not uncommon theory here AND in Japan that Subaru is being manipulated to having feelings for Emilia by Satella.
It's still a theory and it also seems to be a half-assed way of yours to hamfist your views here.
With this though, you've indirectly admitted that he does have feelings for her, without Satella's interference.
>>158859535
Then you're proving me right on the matter that there are multiple touchy retarded Remfags. Thanks.
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>>158859695
The threads moved a lot faster, if there isn't a shitstorm these threads are lucky to get past 300 posts before page 10. The past few threads have been nothing but shitstorms. Posters are just making 1 or 2 posts on topic but get drowned out by the shitposting. The demographics have also changed, the main fan base has diminished in here and so the comfy homogeneous threads are long gone.
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>>158859493
Also, lets do some comparison. Aside from the relationship to Subaru, Emilia has relatively little to talk about. You can speculate some about her and Fortuna and Pete, you can even bemoan Arch. And as evidenced in these threads, those things do come up. As soon as Emilia has something else interesting to talk about people will actually talk about. But for some reason in the main story, she's basically static. She treats everyone roughly with the same basic niceness, and all her conversations with pretty much anyone go over her head so she just sits there. She is, in a story full of dynamic characters and dynamic character interactions the most dull by far. Which is bizarre. The only logical conclusion is that the author is doing it on purpose, because he's also said writing for Emilia is time consuming and difficult because she must be a certain way. So the question is what is this slow burn building to?

As a current example of what she could be, her interactions with Roswaal in arc 4 were actually very good. It was dynamic and exciting and different. Essentially her childish mentality blasting through all his layers and layers of plotting and scheming and lies works well. But she just doesn't interact with others enough.

But nope. Can't have that talk either unless all the Emiliafags are asleep because otherwise they'll start bitching about how 'NO did you see she totally smiled one time when Garf said something, she has GREAT character interactions and is SO dynamic. Much more dynamic that a stupid potato that can't even move.'
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>>158859818
all of the above
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>>158859900
We lost all the DEEPEST LORE posting as well, which used to be common in these threads as well as crack theories which I miss deeply.
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>>158859859
Their relationship did not develop naturally therefore it is forced.
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>>158859818
>Who starts shit? Us, that guy or everyone else?
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>>158860000
What does your post have to do with the Strawpoll?
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>>158859993
I'm not sure you get it though, their relationship isn't romantic, so there's no way their relationship is forced when "forced relationship" is mostly used with romantic relationships.
None of his relationships developed naturally, by your logic at least. He basically HAD to befriend Rem and Ram because he would have been torn apart by Rem if he didn't do so, and of course, it all started with Emilia, since he followed her like a doggy.
From all the characters, I believe only Otto had some natural development with him, but even with Otto, it was still an issue of "need".
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>>158859857
>Otto
The content was sort of lame but I fucking loved it. The way the latter halt was told was pretty hilarious and I get a bit touchy every time Subaru assumes something wrong about Otto's past.
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>>158859900
There was once a time that shitposter-kun's posts were drowned out with actual discussion but sadly nowadays its an entirely different story
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>>158859818
How exactly are Emiliafags easiest to bait?
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>>158860153
you just talk about a different character once and its all over
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>>158860092
It must be a hard concept for you, but when you have population: 98% Remfags, 1 Catfag and 1.2% Emiliafags, you'll always get whatever the majority isn't.
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>>158860170
And how is that baiting Emiliafags?
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>>158859859
Look at that. An Emiliafag that literally cannot read. I am once again shocked to the fucking core.
>How?
He's forcing himself to chase after, and has been doing so since arc 1. His reasoning for doing this is largely his fetishes and his expectations for what his life would be like. His expectations are immediately BTFO and the ways he treats people is pointed out as shit. So he tries again, this time coming up with different justification, but this is proven to be self-serving and shit, so it causes a breakdown. So he tries again, this time with even more different reasoning that sounds less self serving, and it is, but its still wrong because he's not treating Emilia like a person. So then he tries again, starting from basically nothing and that's where we're at right now. His relationship up through arc 4 is negative, now its just stuck in neutral and neither him nor Emilia know how to proceed, so they just fall into a fairly regular vapid pattern when they interact. Emilia is slowly making progress on this front but again, its a slow fucking burn.

>So that means that his feelings for Emilia aren't a thing? How? How does this prove anything?
Nobody says his feelings for Emilia aren't a thing. They say the relationship is forced and dumb, but not that Subaru doesn't care. Only twitchy butthurt Emiliafags say this as a stupid strawman that has literally never been said once.

>It's still a theory and it also seems to be a half-assed way of yours to hamfist your views here.
Nice copying half the sentence where I specifically said I DIDN'T think that was the case. Subaru has enough between Emilia checking all his boxes, his obsession with tropes, and his greed to justify why he's pursuing her.

>With this though, you've indirectly admitted that he does have feelings for her, without Satella's interference.
Gee, its almost like I DIRECTLY stated that you stupid fuckass.

Emliafag reading skills/10
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>>158860245
You'd think it wouldn't be, but it is, thus they are the easiest to bait. Any discussion at all, any picture at all can send them into a stupid frenzy about how Remfags are the devil.
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>>158859857
>Chances are that he was somehow more convincing about the matter.
Canon Subaru didn't want to run away at all so him trying even harder to convince Rem sounds OOC already.
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>>158860327
But baiting is done on purpose to annoy the fags, talking about other characters isn't baiting.
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>>158860358
yes he would that's the fucking point
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>>158860153
My guess is it's because they're often baited entirely by accident.
>>158860092
Not that guy, but everyone is going to have biases there.
>>158860129
Yes, it was a pretty charming little story. But it was fucking lame at the same time. Garfiel's backstory is a bit sad, but it's also hilariously lame. His motives are retarded. But despite his terrible motives and backstory, he still makes for a compelling threat and a fun guy once he gets over it.

Arc 4 introduced a lot of characters to the regular cast, but I personally think only Otto and Garf were particularly memorable. I couldn't give a shit about the lolicon. Lewes isn't much of anything. Annerose adds fairly little. But Otto and Garf? I like them.
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>>158860358
We don't have detailing on the scene, so its hard to say whether it was Rem doing something different by accepting his offer under the same circumstances we saw or Subaru doing something different by being less obviously distressed when suggesting it. I'm think its maybe more the former than the latter given how the Rem seems to coddle him more, but its hard to say.
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>>158860417
They can get baited by stuff that isn't bait, how is that not the easiest? You do it on accident by saying something like 'Rem is cute'
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>>158860245
Its what causes them to trigger a shitfest. At least Remfags have resistance to such things and self moderate not to fall for bait extremely obvious bait. Only when it gets persistent and the falseflagging comes is where the action starts, you have a couple of posts poking at them they would ignore or at least attempt to humor it. But with Emiliafags literally anything and I mean anything can send them into a frenzy. Which makes their shitstorms so unpredictable at times. Which reserves most of the discussion back as to try and not to offend anyone.
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>>158860262
>His reasoning for doing this is largely his fetishes
I'm a Remfag but I do think Subaru's reason for being in love with Emilia is reasonable desu. Subaru loves Emilia because she saved him, just like Rem loves Subaru because he saved her. Is it really that hard to understand the relationships between those characters?
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Is Rem still the most popular character in the series?
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>>158860429
Clind confuses me. I keep expecting there to be more to him, but I really have no idea what. Based on his age he seems to be sort of like a childhood friend to Roswaal I think, and I'm pretty sure he's just about the only non-demihuman working for Roswaal, which is itself weird. And then there's his strange personality. But that said he's maybe just a completely random guy like the Pearlbatons. Weird so they're sort of memorable, but mostly just around.

Lewes I liked a fair bit because loligranny conversations are funny, but she doesn't serve that much purpose now.

Annerose hasn't done all that much so I'm kind of meh about her.
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>>158860262
>He's forcing himself to chase after, and has been doing so since arc 1.
No, this never actually happens. If he has feelings for her, why would he stop "chasing her"?
Actually, you're pretty much wrong since he does stop actively chasing her, because he's waiting to wake up Rem first and THEN resolve the situation with Emilia.
>His reasoning
No, please, do remind us when he says "I really like slutty elves, that's why I love Emilia, lol.".
>His expectations are immediately BTFO and the ways he treats people is pointed out as shit.
This is fucking arc 3, did you read the rest of the WN or are you going to hound that arc forever with your own arrested development?
>but its still wrong because he's not treating Emilia like a person.
>starting from basically nothing and that's where we're at right now
>His relationship up through arc 4 is negative
It's like development for you is an alien concept. You're saying it's forced because he develops as a person and starts to understand his feelings for her more (he's still a moron).
Also, after Arc 3, this isn't the case anymore, what he does in Arc 4 is actually letting Emilia do whatever the fuck she wants and not understanding that she needs support because she's weak.
>now its just stuck in neutral and neither him nor Emilia know how to proceed
Because Emilia is ignorant, because Subaru is waiting to wake up Rem.
>They say the relationship is forced and dumb
How is it possible for a relationship to be forced when they're not even in a relationship? They're going to develop towards it, but they're not there, you know.
How is it dumb? Because you don't like it?
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>>158860153
You just say that Subaru's feeling for Emilia is the witches doing and it's a field day.
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I'm looking forward to the day when I wake up and come here, go to Twitter or somewhere else and I see that this is getting animated. It will happen. Translation announcement happened way sooner than I expected.
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>>158860806
>You just say that Subaru's feeling for Emilia is the witches doing
But that's true.
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>>158860610
I understand what it is, but he's mostly latching onto any excuse to keep following around the girl of his dreams and live the Isekai life, at least initially. Its why that has largely been dropped as a point of motivation for why he wants to be around Emilia, now he's being more honest and less self-justifying about it. Just in episode one he flipped around from 'she's my fetish girl' to 'I guess I gotta follow her because she's just soooooo nice she'll never get anything done without me' to 'because she saved my I owe her so I guess I have no choice but to follow the pixie girl of my dreams' with a decent dash of 'her life is actually in danger so I should save her because its right' and 'oh god I'm so alone in this world I need a hug'

Its a complicated mix of things, but its all based on him projecting things onto Emilia, because at no point is he actually seeing her. So he needs to break all this down and push past the bullshit to try and make something real of it, and the first time he does that he recognizes that this is going to take a long ass time.
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>>158860806
Emiliafags just can't handle the truth.
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>>158860975
>because at no point is he actually seeing her.
This is still arc 3, Arc 4 ends this issue.
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>>158860732
>No, please, do remind us when he says "I really like slutty elves, that's why I love Emilia, lol.".
Arc 1, Arc 2, all the memeflirting, Arc 6. She's his ideal beauty. But leave it to an Emiliafag to have not read the work.

>This is fucking arc 3, did you read the rest of the WN or are you going to hound that arc forever with your own arrested development?
Arc 2, but leave it to an Emiliafag to have not read the work.

>How is it possible for a relationship to be forced when they're not even in a relationship? They're going to develop towards it, but they're not there, you know.
>How is it dumb? Because you don't like it?
How hard is reading for you fucks? Seriously.
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>>158860902

Or I may be awake when the announcement happens.
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>>158861072
>Talking about Arc 1 and his initial reasoning
>BUT ARC 4 CHANGES EVERYTHING
>Post literally makes reference to this changing later and the current state of affairs
Emiliafags continue to be the goddamn MASTERS of the English language.
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>>158860966
>>158861023
I wouldn't be surprised but it'd feel like a bit of a copout at this point.
And would probably turn into "B-but I still love you" eventually.
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>>158860654
Yes, by a long shot.

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/105296
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>>158861147
Well, as I explained earlier, Subaru likes turning fake bullshit into real things. So yes, even if he found out his feelings were forced he would try and make it real, or something.
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>>158861197
God bless Rem. She's so precious.
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>>158861084
>Arc 1, Arc 2, all the memeflirting
Thanks, reminder that I told you about how development is alien to you.
Also:
>Arc 6. She's his ideal beauty.
Are you some kind of idiot? If you're not talking about the amnesia Subaru, it seems you're missing the point.
Him preferring her looks isn't some kind of alien concept, especially when he loves her.
It's when he prefers ONLY her looks, which is the issue of Arc 1-3.
>Arc 2, but leave it to an Emiliafag to have not read the work.
Arc 3 is literally the clearer version.
>How hard is reading for you fucks? Seriously.
So you have no argument.
>>158861141
>Emiliafags continue to be the goddamn MASTERS of the English language.
>and the first time he does that he recognizes that this is going to take a long ass time.
To me it seems that you're either really bad at understanding what you're reading or you're contradicting yourself.
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>>158861223
It would be like the fourth time already. I'm really not looking forward to that.
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>>158860654
Pretty sure.
>>158860711
At this point, I'm going to be honest and say that the characters I like most are Ram, Rem, Subaru, Roswaal, Otto, and Garf. Slightly mixed feelings on Betty, she's probably going to get added to the list. And I think a large part of that is that they have a good network of social interactions.

Everyone shits on Otto, but he's good friends with Garf and Subaru. Ram and Rem have their sister thing, Rem wants to fuck Subaru, and Ram wants to fuck Roswaal. Garf is getting cucked by Roswaal, but apparently he's going to have a thing with Mimi. Everyone hates Roswaal. Rem bullies Garf, and Ram bullies Subaru. Adding to that, they're all fairly entertaining characters.

So far, Emilia mostly has Annerose and Subaru, and hardly anyone seems to care about Annerose. She also interacts a little with Freddie, but Fred is pretty damned boring.
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>>158860806
Just like how Rem loves Subaru because of the smell right?
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>>158861398
But she despises the smell and thinks it's evil.
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>>158861435
It grows on her after Subaru saves her.
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>>158861398
She loves Subaru in spite of the smell.
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>>158861481
No, she still thinks the miasma is evil and it worries her whenever it intensifies, even thinks it's the source of the negative influence on his attitude.
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I actively want less normal interactions with Otto. When it's not a mission, this "Fuck you, Otto, jk" shtick gets annoying really fast.
Garf is certainly more interesting than Otto.
And I like Frederica, Clind and Annerose, I would like to get more from them as characters, but Tappei will never deliver on that I'll assume.
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>>158861857
>this "Fuck you, Otto, jk" shtick gets annoying really fast.
I agree that part is pretty boring. It'd be better if people stopped shitting on him. But he's got a little book that's going to make everything better.
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>>158861950
I never got the whole "Book of Wisdom" plotline in Arc 5. What the fuck was even happening?
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>>158862047
I haven't even read Arc 5 yet. From what I heard, Otto was getting the book fixed, and the Witch Cult was interested in getting a better Gospel. Or something.
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>>158861857
I loved this scene
>Subaru's sentence cuts off halfway.
>He cannot keep joking for he senses something grave in Otto's gaze as he looks at Subaru. As
though he is trying to talk about something important.
>Subaru shuts his mouth, and Emilia tilts her head. Otto looks at the two while a mere microsecond of hesitation flashes through him.
>But it all disperses when Emilia glances back.
because Otto has been established as Subaru's greatest keikaku partner during Arc 4, so seeing things turn serious between them after all their banter got a big reaction out of me.
Do we even know what he wanted to discuss? The gospel?
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>>158862117
Yeah, but what book? Echidna's from the dream realm? How the fuck did they even get their hands on it? Roswaal's burned down, so maybe they mean Beatrice's? But it was left in the archive and burned as well, no?
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>>158862203
>Roswaal's burned down
You may have noticed something about the condition of the book in most of the Otto pictures.
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>>158862156
>Do we even know what he wanted to discuss? The gospel?
I think so, yes. Omega mentioned he already took the thing.
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>>158862242
>Otto pictures
I rarely look at fan art, so yeah there's that. Am I'm pretty sure it wasn't pointed out or hinted that Otto took it. Maybe I should re-read that part again, then.
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>>158862380
Omega mentions something about it in her Chapter, about the young man taking the Gospel. So basically, when no one was looking, Otto just went and took what remained of the book and decided to ship it off somewhere for repairs without telling anyone.

Which is probably his real motive for going to Pristella.
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I want to see more of Julius and how he can overcome his shit in arc 6. Now that I think about it, I still have no idea about his backstory and his reason for serving under the jew merchant. Some people said its pretty sad and heart-wrenching so I want to learn about it even more.
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>>158862502
>>158862283
>>158862242
Now, Otto sounds more interesting than before.
A betrayal would be nice, actually.
We'd return to the scumbag Otto, in a way to say, he never actually changed, he was just playing a role.
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>>158860902
The reality is, itt will never happen.
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>>158862587
Tappei confirmed that his friendship with Subaru is at 100%, so we won't get a complete reversal at least.
He could still fall victim to witchfuckery or break bad though
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>>158862587
Doubt he's gonna pull it. If he didn't betray Subaru for sending him on a suicide mission in Arc 4 out of friendship, he's not gonna do it unless he gets corrupted by the book in some way.
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>>158862581
>Some people said its pretty sad and heart-wrenching
Who said? Haven't heard that.
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>>158858615
There are morse useful things to translate than the IF
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>>158862681
Corrupted? Otto doesn't need to be corrupted. He just needs to see truth and consequences, and understand the necessary steps that must be taken.
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>>158862700
The nips if I recall correctly. Some of his backstories with Anastasia are mentioned in a store special it seems.
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>>158862745
True, but the translators are doing everything for free so you should pay them some respect and let them be already.
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>>158862758
So a corrupted Otto would basically be Ayamatsu Subaru except not on steroids?
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>>158862745
A large number plus the fucking translator himself want the IF translated, fuck off.
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>>158862888
Such a hypocritical statement from someone who cased off spfag
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>>158862905
No. I'm saying that if Otto's repaired Gospel started giving him hints about very nasty shit going down if the Emilia factions continues as is and somehow gets their audience with the Dragon, he might make a decision for the greater good. Or not.

The point is, that thing could feed him a ton of unpleasant truths.
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>>158862934
People didn't tell spfag to fuck off because of his translations.
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>>158845806
>>158845902
Sigh you don't seem to get it. You interpretation about any relationship is are ultimately just your projections. Whether you find it childish does not change the relationship is legitimate, been built up and exist because the author wants it like everything else in the story. Furthermore Subaru's actions having a practical benefit and still genuine show of emotion is not mutual exclusive. That should self-evident by basic reasoning and the only reason to ignore this promote bias laden justification for your ship. You are being intentionally intellectually dishonest.

I can easily just as write that the reason Rem got removed is because Tappei doesn't like pure emotionally dependent relationships without conflict to grow the individuals thus why Subaru and Emilia get more focus Subaru and Rem. Then you rush to the defense of this ship in anyway possible to tell me I'm wrong but doesn't change that it can be legitimately argued.

Neither my viewpoint nor theirs doesn'' sound like what Tappei is going for. If discredit any of the pairings he would done so a long time ago stop making minute excuses about stuff that core to story. The fact that you twist and reduce nearly everything between two characters into some meta waifu contest despite the scenes themselves (From Zero, Reason to Believe etc) being more about people coming to terms with each other says a lot about how shallow you are.
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>>158863278
Not the guy you are responding to but what the fuck are you trying to say?
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BTW, Subaru's official age is confirmed to be 17.

via HaruSabin's twitter.
https://twitter.com/HaruSabin/status/876724164681318400
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i just want all this waifuposting to stop, the threads always end up shit up because of all the waifufags either fighting each other or just talking about rem and emilia without any actual discussion getting done. even if rem and emilia are important to the story, there are tons of other stuff to talk about, and yet, 90% of the thread ends up being about either rem or emilia, with another 5% dedicated to the catfag and the other 5% being some small discussion about the actual plot, the lore, or other characters
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>>158863437
im pretty sure that was already confirmed since in his backstory we get told he became a Hikkikomori around the start of his third year of highschool.
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>>158863389
TD;LR stop making excuses to discredit another ship to prop in your own in every way possible especially when it not reflected in the story.
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>>158863389
Not the guy you're answering to, but is it that difficult to read normal English?
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>>158863530
I remember some guy trying argue that wasn't his real and the admin of the Re;Zero wiki was wrong despite Angelo being a stick for misinformation.
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>>158863544
are you telling me that is normal english?
>Sigh
I should be getting on his case of being from fucking reddit
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>>158863437
He's not 17 anymore.
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>>158863719
so he's 16 now?
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>>158863458
Agreed. A lot of would died down they just accept there two legitimate pairings for Subaru and move on. It's not as if all these grasps at straws will have any affect who ends up with who in the end. The only reason to continue the same tired discussion is if you have your head too far up your ass to be self-aware.
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>>158863458
Honestly, sometimes I actually wish the author would opt for harem route, despite myself hating it to death, so all shippingfags would stop arguing over who the MC should pick and shut up altogether. Or an ending where everyone dies too. Either one will get the job done and help get rid of the waifu wars for good.
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>>158863437
hello slowpoke. this was stated already in arc1
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>>158863719
As of Arc 5 yes which also noted on the wiki.
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>>158863691
That's like, fucking middle school English, you dumb shit.
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>>158863782
>ending
>end the waifuwars
How does that do us any good?
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>>158863850
That English is obviously the posters second or third language. It honestly is hard to read, especially when he doesn't even know what he is talking about.
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>>158863884
Yeah you're right. I guess the author should kill one of the girls then (so there wouldn't be any love triangle shit anymore) or remove every single romance aspect of the story so people would stop talking about shipping all the time then.
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>>158863949
He's missing like 2-3 commas, if you can't understand it anyway, then you're probably retarded, or you just didn't read.
>when he doesn't even know what he is talking about.
So you're saying Tappei can't write his story the way he wants, because you don't like it.
Because that's what denying that post entails.
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>>158864067
No, my issue is your timing. These threads will be dead when the WN is over.
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>>158863278
I'm sorry, but we were talking about Otto now.
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I can help ESLbro to improve his English really fast.
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>>158864204
can you help me improve my japanese really fast too?
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>>158864232

No
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>>158864261
understandable, have a nice day.
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>>158864129
That's why I'm saying the author should do something that doesn't take much time like killing off one of the girls or establishing the harem route early, etc. at this point of the story.
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ESLbro, you can use this https://app.grammarly.com/
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>>158864132
Speaking of the gospel
>Seeing Roswaal get stuck for words, Subaru's eyes widen in surprise.
>While the white cosmetics prevent the colour of Roswaal's face from showing through, Roswaal's refusal of Subaru's proposal is so intense it could even be called an overreaction.
>The rapid change in Roswaal's attitude informs Subaru that his statements locked on to Roswaal's weak point far more than he had imagined.
>In the gospel's text, or otherwise the writ, there is something Roswaal is hiding which he cannot let be known. Was his stubborn adherence to the prophecies also something originally spurred by that hidden something?
>If not, then how could someone on the level of Roswaal have not noticed the contradiction of the gospel?
still needs to be cleared up
>>158864090
Not him but the grammar is much worse than missing commas, still readable though.
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>>158863278
While I am not going to read the entirety of your post I will say they are not projections. Nor is it a justification of any ship, as these are all what have been described narratively in the story itself and even Tappei commenting on it i.e. the comparison of relationships based on a Q&A. While there are interpretations there are none of which where it has any form of bias to a degree where you would disagree with the material. While you can also easily say Rem got removed because of Tappei disliking the character relationship is in itself dishonest and a shallow interpretation that will and has been counter pointed. There is a different in what can easily be said and what is said is being actually beleivable.
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>>158863278
This doesnt sound like an arguements but more like a long written out ad hominem about Remfags again.
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>>158864313
>still needs to be cleared up
Oh yes. I'm 100% certain that's a seeded plot point, probably there for Otto to find out later since we still don't know what it is. You got any ideas of your own?
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>>158864313
He's just fanatical about his waifu and he's an autist that believes nothing changes, especially love. That's mostly because of how long he lived.
Which funnily enough, is a contradiction to what Echidna believes.

Tappei was saying in the Q&A that if Echidna would direct her mantra towards Roswaal, he'd be broken.
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Use Grammarly, ESLbro.
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>>158864518
At least, that's what I think the answer is. It's not as if Subaru's first person narration is always spot on, is it?
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>>158864518
>Tappei was saying in the Q&A that if Echidna would direct her mantra towards Roswaal, he'd be broken.
Which Q&A was this? That actually reminds me. Wasn't Echidna the villain in an early draft?
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>>158864710
https://pastebin.com/TUV8u3yq
This is all Q&A's combined.
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>>158864495
Seems like >>158864518 is the most concrete answer we can get at the moment. I couldn't even speculate what the fuck it could be.
Would be funny if it was really just Subaru underestimating how muh gospel Roswaal actually is.
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>>158864765
>muh gospel
This always gets me.
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>>158864806
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>>158864839
Last volume better have an illustration of his ass getting shittalked by Emilia
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/a/ Grammar

Cmon guys, this all we have to talk about the this thread should just die.

>>158863787
Again this what some other dude was arguing last month.

>>158864447
Do you even know what a ad hominem is? Nowhere personally attack Remfags. Just calling them out hypocritical behavior and double standards.

But seriously the waifu should just be dropped if can't talk about your waifu without shit flinging. Nobody ever wins this argument and usually amount to nothing. You come up all self-serving reasoning you want to bend any narrative in your way, but no tangible affect on anything in reality no matter how much you want it. Just how you perceive the story. If Subaru gonna end up with Emilia, Rem, both or neither then he is.
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>>158864839
Roscchi is basically Gollum when comes to the gospel.
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>>158863278
>Furthermore Subaru's actions having a practical benefit and still genuine show of emotion is not mutual exclusive.

Here is the problem with this. Each of them played out differently as this also applies to Rem and the whale battle. The difference is what the narrative focuses on and how that romance is played out. That is where the illigitimacy or extent of genuinity of the Suba and Emi relationship stems from in the story. This is not a justification of any ship as you can read the entire thing without prior bias and see where it is stemming from. The older WNfags thought of this, so it is not a innaccurate assessment either.
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>>158864736
Ah, saw it. Well, that seems like it'd be fun. Anyhow, even though I don't recall where I saw it, I did find that mention that Echidna could have been the main villain pretty interesting. She's actually surprisingly present in this story.

Sphinx, a Lewes clone experiment, seems to have been involved in the Demihuman wars. No idea how she escaped sanctuary or what her purpose was since I don't recall seeing a summary of the EX novel. There's Dream Echidna and Omega, doing god knows what, and finally we have a scarf meddling in the election and urging Subaru to take on the tower.

Echidna has a hand in a lot of things, which makes sense given her book can read the future. Her purpose with Puck is currently unknown, but it's pretty obvious her influence probably runs throughout events for the past 400 years. That actually makes me wonder how Gospels are created, and if it's not just another Echidna double manipulating the Witch Cult.
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>>158863278
Didnt Tappei say that Subaru and Emilia's relationship are like a pair of elementary schoolers of some sort?
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>>158865309
>Q: How well do the members of the various royal candidate’s camps get along?
>A: Crusch - Ferris is a happy couple (Crusch is the husband), Anastasia - Julius are a boss and subodinate that understand each other, Priscilla - Al are a bad influence on each other. Emilia - Subaru are friends like a boy and girl in elementary school. Felt - Reinhard are like co-workers where one hates the other, and the other tries to be nice anyways.
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>>158865309
One of them is ignorant, the other is retarded. So I'd say that's correct even if Tappei didn't or did say it.
Honestly, I still believe it's just hard for Subaru to understand what the fuck he's going through because of all the added bullshit he had to go through 6 arcs into the story.
Add the fact that Rem going comatose actually hindered his development with Emilia, and here we have it.
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>>158865309
>>158865386
>Q: Aldebaran was previously a mercenary; how is his loyalty?
>A: It’s unusually high. Giving the friendship between the royal candidates and their attendants, in rough order: Crusch - Ferris > Priscilla - Al > Anastasia - Julius > Emilia - Subaru > Felt - Reinhard. Emilia - Subaru might be a little higher at the end of Arc 4.
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>>158865309
Yes, it's developing.
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>>158865115
Learn English and stop lying. The person responsible for destroying threads has no right to tell me these threads should die.
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>>158865115
>You come up all self-serving reasoning you want to bend any narrative in your way, but no tangible affect on anything in reality no matter how much you want it. Just how you perceive the story. If Subaru gonna end up with Emilia, Rem, both or neither then he is.
I can honestly say the same for you and your bias towards Emilia but really to dismiss arguements and evidence to support it without isolating and looking at the story as a whole as "these delusional remfags" is in itself hypocritical.
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>>158865445
>after 1 year still nothing changed
>developing.
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>>158865801
>it doesn't change at all!
>Emilia - Subaru might be a little higher at the end of Arc 4.
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>>158865801
And it's mostly Subaru's fault.
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So people only hang off this shit for the side characters, right? Subaru is the height of an uninteresting, bland LN protagonist that the author wants us to believe is far more clever than any of the writing really is. As for his side chicks, even when you have scenes like Emilia telling him to fuck off for good they just revert to doormat status in a couple volumes so the stock standard shipfest bullshit can continue. I feel bad for anyone who fags a character from this series because your waifus deserve better than utter mediocrity.
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>>158865850
Have you read the series?
What is the time-span between arcs 4-5 anon?
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>>158865211
No it doesn't. It was never written that way. There as no reason for Tappei to do unless he cares more about egging in waifuwars then writing a freaking plot and developing characters. It's just stupid talking point among the others you just want parrot for no reason other than bias. Nobody gives a shit if fit your waifu's romance was more romantic. You just make excuses to assure the reality of Subaru losing his first kiss to Emilia with any flimsy justification necessary. Its' enough for you that Subaru confessed to Rem first apparently.

>>158865309
Something like that. It's constantly developing relationship between two people who feel for each other but are awkward in expressing themselves. That's what makes it authentic.
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>>158865887
Fuck off Subaru is fun as fuck. Thats what makes the other half of the dynamic more interesting.
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>>158865887

Crusch-sama is with Ferri.
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>>158865914
>Something like that. It's constantly developing relationship between two people who feel for each other but are awkward in expressing themselves. That's what makes it authentic.

This is the man who has the balls to say that he is on the side of reality and truth.
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>>158865904
They do have chemistry and shit. They even fought together in arc 5 so what you mean?
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>>158865887
Subaru is the big reason why this series is enjoyable he himself is pretty fleshed out. Though it would be nice if Emilia realizes and leaves Subaru to find a better man, having him be whipped and bullied by Rem is more enjoyable than the memeflirting.
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>>158865990
What's wrong with what he said specifically?
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>>158865887
I can enjoy his suffering, his douchiness, his happiness and his heroism.
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>>158866027
Holy shit you cant even read the context of your own post. Are you actually trying to cover yourself up right now?
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>>158866064
I swear to almighty you cannot be this dense
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>>158865914
>That's what makes it authentic.
This got a chortle. I honestly don't think any of the romances have a particularly authentic feel. Most of the romance just seems to be a particular collision of brain problems.
>>158865887
>that the author wants us to believe is far more clever than any of the writing really is.
I do dislike it when the story sucks his dick too much. It just doesn't feel right.
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>>158866160
It's what, 30 words? Is it a hard endeavor for you?
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>>158866027
Arc 4 thier dynamic remained stagnant. With Subaru himself stating it in arc 6. I really dont know how you are not getting that.
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>>158866166
>I do dislike it when the story sucks his dick too much. It just doesn't feel right.
You mean, you dislike the fact that his almost impossible to achieve objectives are being achieved and thus, properly acknowledged by those that know about it?
What's wrong with you?
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>>158865461
Fuck of with your boogieman.

>>158865680
Yes, I have bias towards just as you bias to Rem. I don't use as an excuse to attack her or relationship with Subaru at every and any possible in disregard of the characters themselves. So no, I'm not the same for me because that is huge fundamental difference. I'm pretty sure if said the same things as some Remfags do about Emilia you would be acting know different. That is precisely why it is pointless. I can live without Subaru and EMilai getting together if that is what Tappei wants, but you and some Remfags clearly can't which why you desperate for an minutiae justification you can find. That says a lot more about you then me.

So continue to ignore anything that's in actual text doesn't support your narrative. You are the one gonna end look like a fool end for playing mental gymnastics.
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>>158866228
Where does he say that, and in what context?
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>>158866211
How would you from translate this:
>Q: How well do the members of the various royal candidate’s camps get along?
>A: Crusch - Ferris is a happy couple (Crusch is the husband), Anastasia - Julius are a boss and subodinate that understand each other, Priscilla - Al are a bad influence on each other. Emilia - Subaru are friends like a boy and girl in elementary school. Felt - Reinhard are like co-workers where one hates the other, and the other tries to be nice anyways.
To this?
>Something like that. It's constantly developing relationship between two people who feel for each other but are awkward in expressing themselves. That's what makes it authentic.
Tell me
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>>158865850
>loyalty=/=romance, and rearead chapter 3 of arc5 again because subaru said this
>>158865856
not it's not when he no problem with Rem
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>>158866121
Subaru's relationship with Emilia is developing as shown by their interactions post arc 4. Just because it doesn't progress much romantically doesn't mean it doesn't develop at all.
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>>158866258
No. I actually meant more those scenes in those silly bathing chapters where everyone's talking how Subaru's had such an influence on everyone. I'm very particular about very particular things.
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>>158866027
you also forgot the part where emilia was again a damsel in distress
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>>158865990
>This is the man who has the balls to say that he is on the side of reality and truth.

If that's what call having common sense then yeah. Thanks for admitting you can't even do something as basic as that.

>>158866166
Says fucking you. You opinion no worth than any calling Rem waifubait had her relationship with Subaru unhealthy. So screw off contrarian
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>>158866293
The end of arc 5 (not arc 6 forgive me) where Subaru visits Rem. Its on lemonwater's site for god sakes and even discussed to death on these threads almost a year ago. Why is it every Emiliafag I come across has not read the series and has only rwad the wiki or very specific chapters they base thier entire opinions upon?
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>>158866374
Is potato a damsel in distress?
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>>158865938
He's not fun as fuck in the slightest, everything that falls out of his mouth is shamelessly ripped from some other LN. Even when he starts grasping at being a badass, it's like he's only taking credit for the accomplishments of other people. I love protagonists like Subaru, I want to respect the progress he's made and the suffering he's overcome, they even acknowledge the terrible burden he's got to bear by being characterized by all this shit that he has to make never happen by the time he's done solving the problem. The series takes itself so fucking seriously on his characterization when the author apparently just doesn't have the talent for it and shit like beamspam Orochimaru and Jared Leto's Gospel are happening right over there. I guess it's my fault for losing my ability to give the writing credit at some point, but everything about Subaru feels like a disingenuous, cheap LN protag who was a little bit of good writing away from being great.

>>158865947
At least someone is protecting her perfect smile.
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>>158866211

>Is it a hard endeavor for you?
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>>158866374
Save that for when Summaryanon gets to it.
For how long is she captured anyway?
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>>158866311
Because it's an easy conclusion to get to, with Subaru's indecisiveness and Emilia's ignorance.
>>158866342
It is his fault. He's postponing Emilia because Rem is comatose. He's postponing Rem because she's comatose.
>>158866401
Quote it.
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>>158866293
He doesn't. "It's just more "Rem is the best!" "How dare Tappei not put her over everything!" fanboy nonsense. It's more apparent you cam't reason with nuts who too far up their ass to care.
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>>158866396
>Says fucking you. You opinion no worth than any calling Rem waifubait had her relationship with Subaru unhealthy. So screw off contrarian
Right, and this one is definitely ESL-kun. No question about it.

I'd actually be perfectly willing to discuss issues with Rem and Subaru's relationship. You may have noticed that I called all romance in this series a collision of brain problems.
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>>158866421
Yes, but Remfags have huge double standards you see.
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>>158866421
As of right now she sort of is. Except this damsel isnt always a damsel but more of a Shike than a Princess Peach since I cannot think of a better analogy right now.
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>>158866520
>You may have noticed that I called all romance in this series a collision of brain problems.
If it's not one extreme, it's the other.
Why must you do this?
What examples can you give besides extreme ones like Regulus, or more "obvious" ones like Ram?
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>>158866421
except she isn't, because unlike emilia can't do nothing because being comatose
>>158866531
really pathetic taht subaru needs to save emilia in every arc also stated by subaru himself in arc 4
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>>158866531
Potato is a damsel in distress because she basically got killed in a big fight.
>>158866598
Why even bring up Regulus? We've got Roswaal, Ram, Rem, Subaru, and probably someone I don't remember right now. Tappei himself says that his story is full of Yanderes.
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>>158866491
>Quote it.
https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/10/05/arc-5-subaru-visits-rem/

Like I said, wiki or never read the series except specific chapters.
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>>158866477
She actually participates in the fight immediately, so just a desperate snipe for something horribly minor. It's like saying Rem was dnd because Subaru saved from getting killed by dogs.

She also has other battles in that arc, but far be to let reality stop delusion.
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>>158866667
>Rem
No.
>Subaru
No.
>Ram
Already mentioned it, then again, you have to remember why exactly in real life we don't like wife beaters and sociopaths in a relationship. Hint, it usually has to do with choice, or lack of it.
Ram wants this though, and has no issue being a mega masochist.
But yes, I'll give you her at least.
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>>158866491
>Because it's an easy conclusion to get to, with Subaru's indecisiveness and Emilia's ignorance.
How in the flying fuck is that an easy conclusion to get to based on those two quotes?
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>>158866562
Does it really matter what kind of damsel that potato is? She still gets a bunch of people killed over and over again as they risk their lives to go to the tower to wake her lazy sleeping ass up while she does basically nothing.
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>>158866693
>t's like saying Rem was dnd because Subaru saved from getting killed by dogs.

fuck off ESLfag you still posting this bullshit, when it was never stated she would die,
>She actually participates in the fight immediately

bullshit stop saying things without reading the source
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>>158866432

>At least someone is protecting her perfect smile.

Yes, Ferri will always protect Crusch-sama's smile.
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>>158866709
And I'm going to repeat this. It's all related to their brain problems. The issues with the Emilia romance? Also brain problems, in that she's retarded.
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>>158866743
Its as if you assume that she has any active choice in being the damsel. Because she is the kind of girl that would go kekkaiku and run head first into battle rather than someone who runs away in a cave or hide in a basement. Her state was due to fighting to save Crusch and others. Not due to cowardice or emotional instability.
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>>158866520
Nah, so far you more interested in discussing oni pregnancies and how much Rem is the BEST!

You have infantile notion of what romance is and attack others ships with petty insult and self-serving excuses. Then come down on any one who isn't' stooping to your level idiocy.
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>>158866799
What the fuck are you doing? It looks just like the one you deleted
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>>158866901

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>>158866712
I don't know, what can you take from my post and associate with elementary schoolers when it comes to romance?
Anon, think for yourself, it's not hard, especially when my post points it out already.
>>158866673
This is a chapter Summaryanon just translated, you moron. It's the beginning of Arc 5, it's chapter 3, not the end.
It's the same chapter I used to rightfully blame Subaru for not developing their relationship.
>>158866818
It's clear you don't have any horse in this discussion, my dude.
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>>158866851
>excuses
Potato would never stay alive without being rescued all the time so that makes her a damsel in distress, period.
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>>158866969
You and I have very different views on elemntary schoolers then. I will pray for you.
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>>158866661
>except she isn't, because unlike emilia can't do nothing because being comatose

Being comatose is irrelevant to being a DnD but as i said double standards.

>>158866667
Emilia got incapacitated and caught when she was in battle too, but not like you hypocrites care about that unless it's Rem. You're beyond petty, childish and dishonest.
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>>158866866
Where have I done any of those things you mentioned? Or am I just part of some homogeneous gestalt entity to you, where anyone who thinks you're retarded is the exact same person?

I genuinely don't think any of the relationships in this series were formed by well-adjusted people for well-adjusted reasons. And that's entertaining in its own way.
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