Death Toll has gone full retard with Satanophany. The diagnosis

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example of the notes they used for the latest chapter

>/a/ - Anime & Manga
Fuck off

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previous chapters, most of their notes were in the margin.

literally who reads tl notes anyway

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so right now it is still easy to remove the notes, though I wonder how shitty the releases would get in the future

Go away

>>158540161
i need to know what keikaku means.

this fucking shit thread again?

>>158540161
they are now in the panels so why wouldn't you read them?

>>158539829
Satanophany is a garbage series for garbage people, you deserve it

>>158540211
No matter how bad they get, all you really have to do is put the the raw picture in a layer below their translated one and remove the shitty parts with the notes.

>>158540367
Truth

>>158540248
These notes are mostly """jokes""", this group does this all the time.

>Some people were complaining that we did a shitty job, so we did a SHITTIER job ON PURPOSE
>For the lulz of course
>That'll teach 'em

>>158540420
That is what I am thinking about doing for the previous chapters and the ones going forward.

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>>158539829
>we're enjoying this silliness
>that's why we're acting like buttmad children
>don't mess with us.... are you'll.... regret it... kiddo......
I never tire of this shit.

Learn Japanese. The only reason anyone ever translates for free is for attention.

>>158540501
And the poor innocent readers get hit with collateral damage like always, and the scanlators will say "we didn't want to do this, but we were forced to"

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These notes are obnoxious

>>158539829
>Ironically ruining the scanlation

I don't even read this fuck and even I would pick this shit up just to remove those fucking scanlator notes. Fuck.

It's all about the obsession of having their "LEL SO FUNNEY" comment read by people.

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>>158540760
everyone except the cleaner/redrawer feels the need to make a comment.

>>158539829
I am going to snipe their stupid manga to make them even more butthurt, bring it on bitch!

>>158541228
They are actually behind two chapters behind. If you can get the next 2 out they will probably go nuclear.

>>158541228
Please do.

>>158539829
If there is one thing that i am glad about official simulcast of almost all shows in the season being a norm.
It's the fact that it removed faggots like those people.

>>158541656
THIS.

>>158539829
Not gonna read a long rant from some pathetic losers who got butthurt that someone or in this case almost everyone said that the xDlulrandom notes need to fuck off.

Why don't you know japanese already? It's the current year.

Their notes are almost as bad as the series they scanlate. I don't even know how to feel about it.

>I really hope the cause was anon making TL note edits in last chapter's thread.
link the thread

>>158539829
>people expect quality from scangroups

I mean... I understand this if you are new in the scene. This kind of behaviour is pretty normal for them.

>>158542089
There's a difference between expecting quality and expecting the groups to not willingly shit on their own works.

>>158541958
Here is where some guy starts making edits
>>157944255
I don't recall anything else that may have caused this

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It's this guy who triggered them

>>158542584
Very nice. I'll be replacing these death toll scans immediately, what site is that?

>>158542670
batoto, would be kino if someone just reuploaded them there lmao

>>158542584
that guy is a real hero

I been reading TLNotes for 20 years, what's wrong with them? Just enjoy your mango.

>>158542770
Look at some of the images in the thread, they're not TL notes, its the translator acting like the manga is his personal message board.

>>158542726
I don't think Batoto would allow that, they side with the scanlators no matter how full retard they go. Guess scanlators fee-fees are more important than presenting the best possible version of a work.

>>158542930
The goddess is probably the best choice

>>158539829
>summarise
>s
Of course it's some fucking eurotards. They're always the most insufferable cunts I've ever worked with in scanlation.

>>158540367
This. My first thought is 'thank god this is happening to a crappy series instead of something I actually want to read.'

>yurishit
>gets shitty scanlators
Really gets these cranium cracking

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>>158542323
>For those who don't like them, tough grid, mac. You're on the short end of the electrical fuse of doom, stretched across the circuit board of unlimited amplification.

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>>158539829
>but seriously we're not mad at all we're totally having fun with this
>Picking a fight with a scanlator who has been involved in secret raids with over 300 confirmed kills is a fool's errand
>better grit your damn teeth

Maybe they should've had their editor read their statement before releasing it.

>>158542770
>Weird sound effect kanji
>Some moonspeak pun or concept or reference
>TLNote; It's like this
This is okay.

>FeMC does something stupid
>TLNote; lmao dis bitch stupid
>mfw

>>158543639
>T/N: ewwww

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>>158543834
>Editor: I agree

>>158543834
>>158543865
>TL/N: fags.

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>>158543834
>T/N: lol wait until you see the next page

There's useful explanatory translation notes, then there's dumping your group's chat logs all over someone's manga.

>>158539829
>have gone

OP, Death Toll have been doing this for literally years. They were doing it with Destroy/Revolution, for example.

They are a dogshit group and always have been.

>>158541227
Well you wouldn't clean your house just to take a shit in the middle of it.

>scanlator drama
Always funny.

Good thing I dont' follow this series.

>>158542237
It's the same thing in the end. They just don't care.

>>158542584
A fucking hero.

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>>158543639
>Weird sound effect

Like fucking chirp?

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>>158542930
Unless you're making inoffensive political jokes in the credits page you made and are triggering people because of it. Then, your translations might be taken down.

>>158541227
If the cleaner has any pride in their work, they're pissed people are putting unneeded text over perfectly good drawings.

>>158544822
>>158543639
But is "sfx:France" okay?

>>158545361

It's called an accordion.

>>158542726
I just made the mistake of reading the rest of the comments for satanophany, death toll is cancer

>Yes, we're doing the scanlation and you have to sit through our bullshit. You're powerless. All you can do is rant and rant and rant. It won't affect our behaviour or our enjoyment in the notes; if it does affect it, it will be by spurring us onto doubling down in the notes.

>We don't care what you or anyone else thinks of our behaviour. We're not trying to be popular. And if you come with the eternal rejoinder, "you must care or you wouldn't even respond", I can only say: yes, we care about as much as we do when we see a circus monkey's antics. We may say something, even applaud, but it won't really leave a dent into how we go about life.

>You can't make us stop, so shut up or get out. Or, you know, keep writhing and squirming in the comment section for our delight.

There was some more inane stuff after that post, but it ends with the guy calmly taking a shit on death toll by releasing his own version.

>>158539829
The most hilarious thing about scanlators throwing tantrums over someone "stealing" and modifying their releases is the fact that they are the ones who stole and modified the original manga.

>>158539829
Jesus Christ, are they 12 or something?

>>158539878
They have the right to do whatever they want with their translations, but it still looks and is retarded. It surprises me that they can't realize it for themselves.

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>>158545601
I don't think accordion would be appropriate here.

>>158539829
What the fuck is this? Give me a quick rundown

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Reminds me of the scans for Isekai Maou to Shoukan. They got pretty mad when someone did the same thing, but they at least got over it. putting your chat log over random panels is just horrible.

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>>158545731
So they're not only doing it for the imaginary epeen, but they also think they're some kind of badass overlord because people think their scanlations are shit.

This is why im just learning japanese. Tired of relying on autistic faggots when I can just use my own autistic faggot brain that I trust.

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>>158545897
>a scanlation group makes many dumb notes in the margins
>batoto guy decides he has enough
>uses eraser tool on their releases
>group decide to put notes over the artwork until he stops

>>158546144
I tried to learn Japanese, but after 3 years I'm not even close to being able to read manga. It's really frustrating, but at the same time it makes me think how reliable the available translations are.

>>158545731
Literal hotpockets. They take their job seriously, they do it for free, they do it because it is the only amount of power and control they will ever have in their pathetic lives

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>>158546616
Fuck man, you studied wrong.

>>158546395
Maybe he'll pick up some redraw skills now.

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>>158547552
Just keep on going until they hit rock bottom

>>158547552
He doesn't have to redraw anything though

>>158547643
Which means it's even easier to squeeze more drama out of this shitfest.

Here's the thing they fail to understand. The mangaka put a lot of work into these series. By graffiting all over them, these chucklefucks are saying "We're better, we are making your work better."

That is some monumental ego there. How much do you want to bet none of them are over the age of 18?

>>158547904
They can't be older than 16.

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>>158547610
I was gonna make a joke about how they should just post it on every panel of the page to make it complete. Then I googled the group's name. Holy shit my sides.

>>158547202
Not him but what's the best way to learn?

>>158539829
>shitoto bans Rapeman from uploading mango due to credit page hurting manchildren feelings
>these fuckers are free to go despite shitting over manga pages
Really makes you think.

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TIL there are loyal buttkissers and apologists for everything in life.

>>158548241
What do you expect from a fujoshi-run site that allows explicit yaoi porn to stay but removes tons of other mild shit?

>>158546616
You might actually be retarded. Any /a/non would be able to start reading in a couple months, maybe a year if you study wrong.

>>158548217
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

>>158548311
There are always apologists for literally everything.

>>158548311

These are the same people who use Mangahere for the 'hilarious' tsukkomis.

>>158548383
And if there aren't enough you can always samefag it too.

>>158548311
TIL some people need to be culled for the good of society. Its these people.

>>158548311
Some people will become apologists for stuff they don't even believe for the sole reason of pissing off the people who are complaining.

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>>158548187
At least in that pic you can still read everything.

>>158548241
>bans Rapeman from uploading
Wait, when did that happen? I've known they were always very hypocritical about what they allow and don't, but one of the credits pages for Muurenase gets him banned?

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>>158548526
What a waste of energy.

>>158548655
Probably one of his islam-bashing credit page did the trick.

>>158548655
Happened 2 weeks+ ago.
Some faggots got butthurt from the credit page and they removed every series TL by man of rape.

Holy shit, if I weren't busy with other stuff I'd just do my own release without the tl notes and post it on Batoto.
I've never even read this series, I just want to see how assblasted they'd get.

>>158548311
>witty comments

>>158548952

That's what they are getting buttdevistated about. A dude is literally doing that.

>>158548753
Well at least it didn't discourage him from continuing. I can get potentially why they removed Muurenase but not all of his other series. Pretty heavy handed there.

>>158549194
I mean actually posting it as an "official" release, not just putting some DL links in the comments. Anyone who follows the series would be notified about it, and MU would permanently not have them listed as the only group working on the series anymore.

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>>158549194
Any idea where he's getting his raws? The ones I found for chapter 11 are too low-res, and since I'm not actually reading the series I don't want to have to do any real redrawing work.

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>>158549378
Just kidding, I found them.

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>>158549467

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>>158549548

now just do a chapter and post it to batoto to watch them rage.

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>>158549585

>>158549616
So much this.

Thank goodness I know Japanese. Having to wait for translations and endure scanlator drama must be hell.

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>>158549636
I think that's all of them.

>>158549616
Gimme a sec.

>>158548753
Glad I was never a fan of Batoto. I hope they get fucked more opm style.

>>158539829
scanlators and their self-importance will never end.

Arrogance will always be a thing, best to just ignore them and pay them no attention. They crave attention.

>>158549737
Oh wait, he already did chapter 11. That was stupid of me to not look first.

>>158549835
>best to just ignore and pay them no attention to the people who provide you your manga.

>>158550018
>best to appease the baboons shitting on their own work, their redrawer's work, and the manga artist's work

>>158550018
death toll pls

>>158550018
>you should like people who don't actually care about the manga and just work on it to have their dick sucked
Someone who slaps unrelated text over a mangaka's hard work for the sake of their own ego doesn't deserve an ounce of praise.

Plenty of translators and editors do their thing because they want to make a good product and spread the creator's work. This group is not one of them.

>>158545731
Oh man, it's times like these I just wished someone else started scanlating the same projects as those retards. I'd love to see how much butthurt they would get.

>>158549851
Good work anyway

>>158550266
If anyone has time to TL 12 and 13 I'm happy to typeset.

>>158549835
Why are scanlators so much worse than fansubbers when it comes to this?

>>158550500
I dunno about that, the fansub cartel is a mess too.

>>158550500
Scanlating is a lot more work, and ripped subs like HorribleSubs have taken over fansubbing.

>>158539829
Translators add some notes to pirated manga. Big deal. Who gives a shit? Translating is a thankless job, let them have some fun doing it. Some anons are acting like this ecchi manga is some masterpiece that's being scribbled on.

>>158550732
Death Toll devs get out.

You're acting like making edited comment-less versions is scribbling on their masterpiece scanlation.

>>158550732
death toll plz

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>>158550732
>Translating is a thankless job,
You're talking to /a/, where completely anonymous scanlations are done all the time, purely because people like the manga and think scanlating it is it's own reward. No who does this shit anonymously complains if someone changes their work, jumps in mid-chapter, or beats them to finishing something.

"Ohhh but the poor group's not getting any recognition for their hard work! You should be nice to them!" is hardly going to convince anyone.

>>158550946
I'm just glad manga that will never be licensed have dedicated teams translating them. Its all I can ask for.

>>158550732
I'm thankful for scanlations but getting angry because someone took out their T/N is ridiculous.

>>158550732
They are being faggots because someone edited their notes out. I'm pretty sure the next step is >>158548187 tier stuff.

>>158550732
>Who gives a shit?
A lot of people it seems

>let them have some fun doing it
ok, just release a clean version too

I hope they drop it so I can look forward to the "why isn't anyone translating this" shitposting threads

>>158550018
>steal someone's work
>claim its your own
>claim all rights to it
>get butthurt when someone else ignores it

Scanlators have literally no rights to ownership of the manga and any derivatives. Not legal nor moral.

The whole thing is a false sense of self-importance. Literally comes from lack of understanding of the concept of ownership.

>>158552349
good, that way some anon will tranlate it

>>158552595
I won't at least

>>158539829
Why are you hating on people adding some fun? This manga is complete dreck.

>>158552935
didn't ask you to do it

>>158552595
If anon cares about the series, it would already be worked on right now

>>158552995
>adding some fun
Death Tool pls. Someone has already removed their notes from every chapter, so it is currently a non issue anyway.

>>158553364
You are changing their hard work, darn right they have every right to be pissed.

>>158554449
They change the work of the mangaka, so they shouldn't complain if somebody changes their work.

>>158554449
Random notes aren't hard work. The mangaka put in the hard work while drawing. I'll give them the translation as something they worked on, but they have no ownership over it.

>>158554724
>changes their work for the better

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>>158545887
Dammit Rapeman.

>>158554882
This, the manga is terrible, so have some fun with it.

>>158555733
>Waiter, this soup is terribly bland and barely edible, so could you take a giant shit in the bowl to give it some flavor?

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Post your favorite rapeman edit

>>158555733
Then why work on it?

>>158555939
See, this is how to do edits. Post them as a secondary after you make clean pages. All hail rapeman.

>>158555939
Heh, now that is funny and it doesn't shit the manga pages.

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>>158555939
This isnt technically rapeman's but still.

>>158555939
>>158556378
These are much better than any notes Death Toll puts in, and they are separated from the rest of the manga. Now I'm beginning to wonder the process for adding notes. Do the translator and editor just say in the script where to put their notes, and then the typesetter does it and also adds their own? Or maybe they pass around the .psd so everyone adds their own shit?

Whitepod's translations are always full of ghetto talk.

>>158557409
A cringeworthy comment for every single panel of the manga.

>>158539829
>EOPs
Who fucking cares, they can do whatever they want and its your choice to read them or not and conversely YOU can do whatever you want with their scans and nobody can give a shit whats all the butthurt about?

I have now been motivated to learn Japanese. I will report back in 8 months when I can read manga and watch anime as they were intended to be experienced.

>>158557409
Whitepod doesn't do any translating thankfully. I didn't know he was desecrating any other manga though. What else is he working on?

I was taking an unofficial extended leave from translating a manga for Death Toll, had no idea they were doing this. I did hear from their leader last week asking if I knew any redrawers that could help out.

If you're reading this Wraith, you better reconsider this stunt. It's dumb as hell.

>>158539829
the series seems cool but the faggot shit and crappy jokes they force in makes it unreadable...which renders their translation of it a waste of time.

tldr:

>translate stuff to be read
>make it unreadable

>>158559665
at least he's unfunny in an acceptable way

>>158559665
Crossboarders go home.

>>158556378
>>158555939
This is just as disgusting to be honest. Who genuinely reads manga to end up with shitty third party jokes?

Sounds pretty hilarious, if I gave any fucks about this trash I'd shit out translations for the latest chapters just to make them REEEEE.

Someone link the raws for the next chapter.

>shittoado allows this
>but bans rapeman
I cannot understand this.

>>158560253
Chapter 12: http://bzland.net/?topic=86399.0
Chapter 13: http://bzland.net/?topic=86699.0

>>158561272
Didnt you shill yourself enough itt.