What is your favorite anime studio? Mine is Toei. They make

For me it's Kyoto Animation, the best Japanese animation studio.

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>>158304446
Other shows but same desu

I like Toonami

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Green Bunny, they made the best fap material

Studio Mir

J.C. Staff has made 3 of my favorite shows, so them.

Sunrise and Bee Train

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Trigger

>>158304980
The only studio to save anime.

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Shaft
They make softcore porn

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Xebec from their first series until today has been really enjoyable.
Girls much healthier than in the past.

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Toei for this and
>>158304748
that.

I like Kyoani. They made Tea Girls and Tomato Market.

I like BONES.
They make nice endings.

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The best.

Bones and Madhouse

>>158304446
Toei. They make World Trigger ;_; and Tiger Mask

>>158305323
this desu

>>158305275
Its still a worse job than working at mcdonalds.

>>158304980
This.

>>158304446
Studio Ghibli for sure

>>158304446
How the fuck can anyone like this shit? They have the worst animation in the industry

>>158305275
>[The Sound of Silence intensifies]

>>158305612
That's your opinions.

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>>158304446
Hiroshi Harada

>>158304446
This, Toei did nothing wrong

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>>158305612
fucking >>>THIS<<<

Of course Toei, wait people like other studios? Wat?

>>158307269
>cherrypicking this hard

>>158304446
Funny. Toei is my least favourite studio because of One Piece.

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>>158305612
OP was being ironic, but >>158304748, >>158305068, and myself aren't. They have a strong track record for their original productions and a fare share of industry talent originated at Toei. They also work on too much shit for their long running anime to not be QUALITY.

>>158305612
Toei has been around for like 60 years dude

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>>158307873
>thinking it's cherrypicking
>being **THIS** in denial

>>158308435
>Showing average animation

Are you retarded?

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>>158304446
I like Progressive Government Sponsored Works.

Madhouse for Kaiji, Tatami Galaxy and Hunter x Hunter.

But mainly Ginax for everything they ever did

>>158308668
Some of the rushes in this aren't all that bad, but that's all DBS's fighting is. Fighting in DBZ rarely came to just out-right fast rushes with no real choreography. In DBS that's ALL WE GET.

Please watch the show or anything Toei makes before defending them. They set the budget low because they're stingey as fuck. They could make DBS and One Piece look ten times better than any other anime from another industry.

They fail because they hire fourth-rate animators who don't give that much of a shit. They just grind the episodes out to make that paycheck and have no real passion for what they do.

Toei somehow makes someone like Naotoshi Shida fuck up on a scene and make it look like shit pretty often.

They're a shit industry. Don't defend them or else you look like you're a goddamned PC fool.

>>158310120
Why are you jumping lines like a retard?

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Mine is also Toei, as it happens. For different reasons, though.

>>158305612
>>158307269
Newfags,

All of the bad scenes on Toei's shonenshit are outsourced at Toei Philippines, made by flips. It's highly expensive to produce 1000+ episodes per series, so they resort on cheaper methods. And the budgets for those anime are supported by Shueisha, Bandai, and Fuji TV, they only offer 100,000 ~ 150,000 per episode.

The good ones are made by nips from their main studios in Japan, like on their anime movies, or on Kado episode 5, the Wam origami sakuga. When it comes to Toei originals, the only part of Toei Philippines is digital coloring. And Precure sponsored by Mcdonalds annually.

There's a lot of veteran animators at Toei, they can do realistic movements without tracing/rotoscoping, latest examples are, Tiger Mask W and Kado's origami sakuga on episode 5, unlike Tsuki ga Kirei, Mappa Bahamut's dance scene, and Pierrot's Nardo. And qt girls, introverted animators, like Hifumi on New Game!, there was a reference about them in Shirobako. These qts only work on girly stuff. These scenes are just one of their latest work. Those introvert qt girls are good. http://youtu.be/OL_cKZ5WgUQ

Budget matters.
http://youtu.be/NgrHuB6aurs
http://youtu.be/cq8p0FD248c

A1 Pictures and their amateur Koreans are much more worse, watch QUALITY Code and Otaku Teacher. Corrupted A1 businessmen made these cheap anims so that third world countries on South East Asia can afford it.

Watch these.
>>158304748
>>158305068
Ayakashi, Mononoke, Kuchuu Buranko,
and Kyousougiga, first series by a new director, still better than your seasonal trash.

Latest one is Kado AOTS spring 2017.

>>158304446
For me, it's gotta be Gainax

>>158310406
>It's highly expensive to produce 1000+ episodes per series
On the other hand, 1000 episode series make a shit load of money.

It's not an excuse

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Gainax has a special place in my heart.
Just you wait until their next arab funded masterpiece

>>158304446
DEEN. When they make everyone mad, I smile.

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>>158310636
really difficult to understand, for some people

>>158310479
Did you read? Those animus budgets are supported by Shueisha, Bandai, and Fuji TV, they only offer 100,000 ~ 150,000 per episode.
Blame them it's their own property, not Toei's, they think it's alright because they're popular.

Look at Precure, originally owned ip, sponsored by Mcdonals annually.

Your average animu have 200,000.

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>>158310406
factor time, huh? now I feel old to defend animation made out for kids audience, and how much can you make just for one piece and dragon ball "super", a fucking lot, still the industry deserve to fill their pockets after a bad filling --animated-- episode

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Doga Kobo

Stop this toei love, theyve made literally one good show.

Kyoanus. They made Keion, Haruhi, and Icecream.
>>158304880
In that case, DR Movie it is for me. I'd pick JM Animation for best Korean outsoursourcing animation studio, but they've never actually worked on anime, only on American animation.

>>158311361
Name one from Doga Kobo.

I saw four good shows from Toei listed in this thread.

>>158311351
They don't originally own those ips, so you don't deserve it.

>>158309615
Hanasaku Iroha and Shirobako were so fucking good. P.A. Works is the only anime studio that can actually compete against KyoAni.

A-1

>>158311861
Yru yuri
gekkan shoujo

I dont like their shows that muchi just like doga kobo.

but toei is actively bad. One piece adaptation is dog shit, same for all the dragon ball shows, they make long ass shows with shit animation, boring visuals and the worst possible kind of pacing. their movies and one cour shows are good tho

>>158311361
That's just ignorant

>>158304522
This, Kyoto Animation makes feel-good anime

>>158312132
Ive seen their shows what am i ignorant of?

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>>158305057
Xebecposter?

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Bones

>>158312227
Like 60 years of history

>>158305009
That's an enormous sponge.

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>>158311361
>theyve made literally one good show

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Production IG. Solid balance of every type of show. And they aren't afraid to try new things.

They also are one of the few studios who can have a solid story along with ecchi.

>>158308362
So what?

>>158312631
The fuck does that matter if it doesnt hold up

>>158312084
Maybe if you stop watching low budget shonenshit, you'll up your standard.

Watch their decent shows, compare them to your shit taste.

Toei is the reason why many western cartoons had great animation in the past.

And them alongside Tezuka's Mushi Pro pretty much revolutionised the anime industry back in the 50s.

>>158312712
So like, Dragon Ball or whatever you're complaining about is a drop in the bucket

>>158312783
If

>>158312823
I like mononoke, kyousou giga is boring, kado is uninteresting and i havent seen kuchuu buranko

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>>158312712
>>158312783
Many of them were hits.

Denying Toei's 60 years of rich anime history is just stupid and makes you look like giant retards.

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I'll say Silver Link to throw out an undermentioned one here.

>>158305611

Overrated tripe. --Miyazaki

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>>158311861
>>158312084
>>158311351


I used to love one piece as an anime, yes is dog shit now because of hype, new animators getting in the industry and bad fillers, even inside the real episodes animated from the manga. I'm felling sick of the reality of this, one show that I loved is getting so boring past the last 4 years. (let's not talk about DBS, I didn't last the 2 first episodes)

>>158313050
Hardly

Netflix Originals
They're the ones who are really leading the industry right now and pushing anime in a new direction. All these other studios itt are just shilling out the same garbage season after season. Netflix gives fans what they really want.

>>158312964
This mentality is fucking dumb, theyve done shit for the industry sure but their shows arent good, theyre all stepping stones and should never be replicated, its fine to apprecaite them but theyre legit one of the worst studios for tv aniamtion.

>>158310636
For the longest time I thought Gurren Laggan was trigger. I don't know why.

>>158313050
>Makes the same movie a bunch of times
>Genius
Miyazaki is overatted shit

>>158313211
What have you seen?

>>158313085
I don't love DBS but its 10x better than GT to me. Also the first 10 episodes are admittedly trash.

>>158313215
Well, Trigger is mostly comprised of the TTLG staff

Madhouse makes pretty cartoons.

>>158313302
They're both trash anyway.

>>158313291
DB, DBZ, OP, Hokuto no ken, mononoke, kyousou giga, digimon, yugioh, tiger mask, kado, toriko, terra e.

>>158313085
Fuck off shonenshits.

>>158312955
Can't help you.

>>158313211
worst budget = worst animation
made by Filipinos

>>158312084
>they make
>implying it's their call
You don't know a fucking thing about anime production, do you? With dragon ball kai nearing ending, Fuji TV were going to have a timeslot empty so seeing Dragon Ball Z latest movies did great at selling they decided with Shueisha to start a new series cross-media: Dragon Ball Super. They etablished a production committee and hired Toei to animate it. The problem is Toei didn't have enough time to start an healthy production (need at least 6 months of pre-production to not screw the schedule) but Fuji TV told them they have two months to work on that and that's it.
The first couple of episodes were fine but it all started to fall into pieces when they catched up the schedule and didn't have enough time to finish episode 5. And it's not like they didn't make their hardest, they basically put everyone of the studio on it, just look the ending's credits. And from then it keeps getting fucked, directors leaved the show right after they finished the arc they were assigned to work in because of the terrible state of production.
Things got better with Black arc and now with have two top series directors and a new producer on board saving Super's ass. Current SDs even got a Bones AD to work on the show and he wish he could work again on it. Shida is teaching animators how to animate, anyway things are well better than the beginning and if it keeps going like that the quality will soon be on par with your seasonal shows.

>>158313651
QED

>>158312852
>Toei is the reason why many western cartoons had great animation in the past.
LOL no
You're confusing Toei with TMS
And either way they only did a few western cartoons

Toei doesn't take anime industry seriously anymore. They're doing nothing but quick cash grab most of the time.
Even so, their occasional serious attempt on short original series always out of the box & better than the rest of the industry.

Also, It's funny reading all these 'MUH KYOANI IS BEST STUDIOS EVAA' from /a/ but in reality none of their anime can't even compete with Toei short series like Mononoke, Kuchuu Buranko, or Kyusou Giga.

>>158310406
>they can do realistic movements without tracing/rotoscoping......Kado's origami sakuga on episode 5
But that was rotoscoped.

>>158304446
I really like kindaichi case,bobobo,gash bell,Slam dunk,beet the vandel buster(I hope for a remake now that the manga is out of hiatus)

Ghibli for people with taste

>>158314461
It's not.

>>158312709

Real Drive was an overlooked gem.

TMS Entertainment is so fucking underrated

>>158310120
>In DBS that's ALL WE GET.
Not true, sometimes we get terribly animated recreations of past fight scenes between those rushes.

>>158313215
Trigger is basically Gainax from 2007 to 2010

>>158317448

Reminder: Avoid shows made by Trigger.

>>158304980
I never finished Ninja Slayer. Where can I find THE good subs? You know wich ones I'm talking about.

>>158312246
nah i hope it does tho

>>158317448(You)

>>158312709
Stay classy mate, IG is my fav too. One of titans who still mantain its anime quality in general (next to Sunrise).
Also, good studio doesn't need meme-spouting fans who always shill on every studio faggotry thread.

>>158304446
Memes aside. Toei has to be the worst fucking animation studio out there right?

>>158312964
>can't even shade, no backgrounds, black in white being acceptable in the 60s
Good job proving Toei a shit and always has been there.

>>158323666
Only if you're a newfag.

>>158314947
How old were you when you watched your first ghibli movie? I can't discredit the opinion of a child. We all know children rule the world and we should all listen to what they have to say.

>>158323876
Mad?

>>158318934
Thanks, almost forgot

>>158310406
Damn, you are stupid. Other studios hire TAP too to do IBs and DC. Look at the credits. Blame Toei main and crappy budget. TAP can animate well if they wanted to, like Nazo kanojo X or that harem library series and etc. It's funny they do more effort to other studios than their main studio.

>>158310406
But there's not a single Toei show that's exempt from this. You can outline a shonen show but you've got no reason to. All Toei shows are QUALITY as fuck.

>>158304446
Crunchyroll

>>158313863
He meant in the 80s not 90s. And they do great animation back then

>>158311130
And budget has nothing to do with it. Toei's shows look like trash regardless of budget.

>>158310406
>blaming budget and flips
They work on too many (long running) shows, plain and simple. DBS' particular problem was that the staff didn't have enough time (announced out of nowhere, director was previously busy, etc.) to work on the show, hence the production collapse.
Not to mention, iirc, Toei budgets are actually average/high for the industry?

This is most exemplified in Crystal S1/S2 looking like ass vs Crystal S3 looking pretty damn good. For whatever reason, Crystal S1/S2 was worked on at the very last minute, while Crystal S3 was animated so far ahead of time that many animators forgot which episodes they worked on.

>>158323897
>Mad?
Nah. Not at all. I mean their animation series were great in the 80's-90's.

>>158324821
No they weren't. You're either blinded by nostalgia or misappropriate the term 'great'. I'm just going to assume you're a newfag and be done with it.

Or you know what? Prove it. Prove they were great. Go ahead I'm waiting.

>>158324864
>He mad
JEJ.

>>158325269
>still no proof
But it's clear you're just trying to bump this thread by resetting your router.

>>158304446
>image

is that a cat in a hat?

>>158325411
original design we're so proud of we'll stuff it in your face every opportunity we get

>>158312783
>The fuck does that matter if it doesnt hold up
Fuck off with that bullshit.

>>158325411
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wonderful_World_of_Puss_%27n_Boots

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>>158305113
This, Tea girls a best.

>>158325505
Why not just link to the actual thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puss_in_Boots

>>158325730
I need a gender bender on this one

>>158324532
Toei's junk was pretty awful(TMNT and Transformers lol)
TMS did some Animaniacs and Batman

>>158314442
Madhouse has made plenty of more experimental anime than Toei ever has, and they've made it much better than the people from Toei ever could. Same thing with Manglobe, Studio 4C, and maybe even Production I.G

IG and Madhouse for me

>>158304446
Wit.

Trigger

>>158327572
>Manglobe
F

>>158310636
Well, none of the people who made the stuff that made Gainax famous even work for them anymore.

>>158304446

I guess mine is Kyoto Animation because they made K-on, Haruhi, nichijou and Tamako Market.

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>>158330346
>Tamako Market
What did people see in this? Other than the delicious brown it was kinda bad. Is it a meme? I felt the same about Chuuni

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>>158304446
Speaking of Toei, subs for their isekai mahou shoujo when?

>>158330648
Yes, it was kind of boring. However, don't forget that it was also the story of Tamako living her everyday life in the shopping district, spending time together with everybody else, as part of her family, as well as part of the community. It's a feeling that people living in a big city rarely ever get to experience, being part of a community, being able to rely on other people, as well as helping other people. Everybody has a need to belong somewhere, yet not everybody is able to satisfy that need.

>>158331379
There's many anime that do that better.

>>158331376
it's a single movie. It might as-well not exist. I applaud them for not fronting the genre in the title. It shows they have some confidence.

>>158304446
>Prisma Illya
>No-Rin
>Anne Happy
>Girlfriend Beta
>Non Non Biyori
I have nothing but faith in Silver Link to consistently produce good work. (Ignore Brave Witches and Masamune. Those are blights on a near perfect studio)

>>158326694
They did the first seasons of those while the koreans did the succeeding ones.

>>158324545
>>158323666
>>158324504
Fuck off.

>>158324453
Toei Phil also did Kabaneri, they only did digital coloring. Those shonenshits have tight schedule these amateur flips can't take it.

Now, fuck off stupid fag.

>>158333152
>4 yous
What was meant by this?

>>158324797
Toei shonenshits have below average budget, most of those One Piece episodes have 100,000 per episode budget, that's why it look like that. 200,000 is average, most of your seasonal animus have 200,000 ~ 250,000 per episode.

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>>158304446
Studio Pierrot IN THE 80s
80s

>>158326694

The best animation I saw in a Batman episode actually came from Sunrise. I was shocked so I looked it up. Turns out Sunrise only worked on that one episode.

Some of the other best animation actually came from the Korean studio which did the vast majority of the episodes. When given a proper budget and not just pushed onto the low tier episodes, Korean studios can do a good job.

>>158333295
Fuck off, failed shitposter-kun.

>>158333350
>all that QUALITY
Looks like old dogs don't learn new tricks after all

>>158333468
?

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gainax because of ttgl and flcl
also eva but meh

Toei. They are making best magical girl anime since the 60ths.

>>158333691
Yes.

Watch Doremi you faggots.

>>158305057
I normally like xebec, but god damn is clockwork planet a piece of shit. I expected crappy story with watch porn and a side of regular porn, instead I got GEARS EVERYWHERE and animation quality befitting of a shoestring budget 2 episode hentai ova

>>158333345
150k is average. Seed and Destiny had what's considered high budgets at 250k and 330k respectively.

Production IG or David

>>158333691

Princess Tutu and CardCaptor Sakura came out in the 60s?

>>158333856
I want to watch Doremi and Precure but they're made by Toei so they'll be shit.

>>158334128
>princess tutu
>mahou shoujo

>>158334081
Again this is implying that budget is all that is important. It depends on how much that goes to animating/directing and also depends on talent.

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>>158334199

>princess tutu
>mahou shoujo
Uh...yes? What do you think mahou shoujo is? Besides, the guy who made it also worked on doremi, sailor moon and half a dozen others.

>>158334270
>the guy who made it also worked on
That doesn't mean shit. I didn't know doremi and sailor moon were by the same author though. Might as-well just skip doremi since SM was trash. Tutu was alright but got repetitive quickly.

>>158333856
the first thing ive done with ab freeleech is snatch all of ojamajo doremi again

>>158334324

>I didn't know doremi and sailor moon were by the same author though.
It's not. I'm talking about the guy who was in charge of adapting those stories into anime. Princess Tutu and Doremi started off as original anime productions with Junichi Sato as head director, planner and storyboard artist. Sailor Moon started off as a manga and Junichi Sato adapted it into an anime (which many people consider to be better than the manga).

The point is, Junichi Sato is arguably the most influential person in the mahou shoujo genre in the last three decades.

And you still haven't given me a reason that Princess Tutu isn't mahou shoujo. You just stated that you don't like it. If we exclude everything we don't like as not being part of the genre, then no genre would exist.

>>158334128
Mahoutsukai Sally did.
And there were Himitsu no Akko-chan, Mahou no Mako-chan, Mahou Tsukai Chappy, Cutey Honey, Majokko Megu-chan, Hana no Ko Lunlun, Mahou Shoujo Lalabel, Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon, Ojamajo Doremi, Pretty Cure. Every one was the best show of it's time. And Toei have made Devilman, Mazinger, Dororon Enma-kun, Getter Robo, Shounen Tokugawa Ieyasu, Candy Candy, Captain Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Stop! Hibari-kun, Hokuto no Ken, Dragon Ball (only original series was good though, it became shit with Dragon Ball Z), Saint Seiya, Lady Lady!!, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne, Ashita no Nadja, that are superior anime.

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>>158304446
>They make Dragon Ball and One Piece
Both of which are crap in anime form

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>>158334219
No, I'm with you. I was the one arguing that the DBS disaster was a result of the poor scheduling rather than a low budget. Though I was wrong about Toei budgets being higher since I got that impression from their animators being paid better than the rest of the industry.

>>158334448
>It's not. I'm talking about the guy who was in charge of adapting those stories into anime
Oh, so a literal nobody jew at Toei then? You're not making a case for him if you use Sailor Moon as an example.
>muh influential
Literally means jackshit. Being influential isn't what makes an anime qualitatively better to watch. I don't watch anime to get history lessons.

>which many people consider to be better than the manga
Many people consider Miyazaki a great director. Ad populum does not an argument make.

>And you still haven't given me a reason that Princess Tutu isn't mahou shoujo
I simply don't care. A genre is just that.
>then no genre would exist
People just make up genres as they see fit. There's nothing objective about calling something a genre. If you want to refrain from making pointless arguments just say what elements an anime has or shares with other shows. That's objectively talking about a show. You can call Tutu a mahou shoujo for all I care. It's not an argument that can be won.

>no genre would exist
How can our reflections be real if mirrors don't exist?

>>158334468

Your opinion sure is hot. But it's just that, an opinion. And its kind of sad that you went and did so much research to respond to another opinion that was obviously just a joke.

>>158334081
Miyabi Line exist because of 200,000 per episode series, there are more seasonal anime now than long-running ones, and seiiyuu are more profitable now, meaning more expenditures, plus combining weak yen to dollars. Girlish Number staff made a point about this.

>>158334199
Fuck off.

Kyoani in sheer consistent excellence

I like that Toei is willing to let their animators experiment and be inconsistent on big properties like One Piece and Dragonball. I'd take that over Pierrot.

Ideally once One Piece is done a studio like madhouse will give it the HxH treatment.

>>158334598

>Oh, so a literal nobody jew at Toei then?
Junichi Sato is a freelance worker who has worked for over a dozen studios. Princess Tutu was not made under Toei. And it's quite hilarious how mad you're getting. So much so you're openly admitting you don't even know what you're talking about.

>Literally means jackshit. Being influential isn't what makes an anime qualitatively better to watch.
The people who work on a show is directly related to what makes them good. You just seem to have some huge hatred for Sailor Moon so you are just discounting Junichi Sato and all the other shows he's worked on. And you didn't even know who he was 10 minutes ago.

I hope you also didn't like Eva, Slayers, Gundam or Aria. He worked on all those too.

>>158334654
Manabi Line*

>>158334598
SatoJun being called a literal nobody is pretty funny, thanks.

>>158334688
>experiment and be inconsistent on big properties like One Piece and Dragonball
no, that's just them not giving a fuck. You're thinking of Precure.

>>158310406
lol Toei Philippines have been around since 1980s you faggot. The outsourcing has been going on for decades already and they did have significant contributions with titles like DBZ and one piece. The islands even had the earliest access to DBZ, much earlier than North America, because of this

>>158334598
> literal nobody jew at Toei
He is not at Toei. And he created Aria The Animation, Kaleido Star and Tamayura, which are the best anime in the history.

>>158304446

Bones, Gainax, KyoAni, IG, PA Works.

I feel like there's good shit coming from all over the place these days, though, so I don't really want to pick.

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>>158334774

Funniest thing I've heard since Crispin Freeman admitting he doesn't know who Yoko Kanno is.

>>158330346

Amusingly I also love KyoAni, but for an entirely different set of shows.

>>158334707
>you're mad
I'm not mad in the slightest, not an argument however.
I never claimed Tutu was made by Toei, in fact I know it wasn't because it had proper shading. Aren't you just jumping to conclusions here? Where am I openly admitting anything?

>The people who work on a show is directly related to what makes them good.
Again, didn't claim the opposite so I'm not sure why you felt the need to reiterate that.

>You just seem to have some huge hatred for Sailor Moon
>hatred
Stop using words you don't understand the meaning of. You're also projecting and dramatizing by adding meaningless fluff to your statements. Neither 'huge nor hate' is applicable there. Stop being such a drama queen.

>so you are just discounting Junichi Sato and all the other shows he's worked on
I'm doing no such thing. Unless by all shows you meant to say 'not all' because that's what I did. Again, this drama thing really doesn't help you ever so I advise you to stop.

>and you didn't even know who he was 10 minutes ago
What has that to do with anything? Either the time frame or not knowing a name? It seems like a vague attempt at discrediting any of my statements but neither of those things is actually wrong. I can have opinions without knowing a name. The name is literally irrelevant for the most part. The name itself doesn't change anything. So knowing the name is not important. Neither is the timeframe. Feel free to tell me how either is relevant though.

>I hope you also didn't like
Is this relevant to the argument at all? Doesn't it depend on the source at all?


I'm sorry I spend time actually watching anime and not dicksucking gooks who are as replaceable as ever.

>>158334899
>Kaleido Star
So that's why Season 2 was so awful. Really makes you think. Again nothing in Kaleido Star from a Director's stand-point stood out to me. Tamayura was repetitive and just a boring story. Aria is badly directd

>>158334945
>funniest thing since
You must live an extremely boring life.

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>>158334883
I'm not, because Precure doesn't pull the ratings or have the culture presence that those series do.

I respect Toei for their history, but I don't really care about their output.

>>158335060
> I can have opinions without knowing a name
Sure you can. But your opinion wouldn't mean shit.

>>158335281
>Feel free to tell me how either is relevant though.
Go ahead.

>>158335060

>Is this relevant to the argument at all?
You don't even know what the argument is. You're twisting the argument to only fit your view by misinterpreting my points and completely changing yours. In just one post, you claimed a guy you don't even know and every show he ever worked on was automatically shit because he worked on one show for Toei. When I pointed out the flaw in this logic, you pulled out the full bingo a 4chan idiocy. "Stop using words you don't know! None of that is relevant! You just don't understand!"

There is no argument when one side doesn't understand what the other side was arguing about. I doubt you even understand your own argument now. You're just throwing out shit in hopes that I won't respond. And you know what, you're gonna get your wish now.

>>158335314
It's to complicated. Such stupid motherfuckers as you wouldn't understand.

>>158335346
>You don't even know what the argument is
Tell me.

>You're twisting the argument to only fit your view by misinterpreting my points
I'm quite literally quoting you.

>In just one post, you claimed a guy you don't even know and every show he ever worked on was automatically shit because he worked on one show for Toei.
Had you actually quoted me instead. You would see this not be the case. But feel free to actually quote me again. Because you still aren't quoting me. That's what greentexts are for. Conveniently ignoring parts of my posts is also not helping your case.

>you pulled out the full bingo a 4chan idiocy
Not an argument. Just meaningless drama.

>"Stop using words you don't know! None of that is relevant! You just don't understand!"
Are you actually using quotation marks on 4chan? Greentext exists for a reason. You're not quoting me though at this point despite the quotation marks. Why not actually quote the person you're talking to?

>There is no argument when one side doesn't understand what the other side was arguing about.
again just an attempt at moving goal posts. You haven't responded to anything I've actually said a single time. You're just jumping to conclusions time and again.

>>158335392
So you've got no argument. I think that makes your side look rather ignorant. Namecalling is meaningless when you're not willing to present an actual point. It doesn't insult me in the slightest knowing you aren't capable of actually explaining your point.

>>158334891
Those days were gone, these are the new generation of Filipino animators, amateur Penoys need experience. All of their episode have QUALITY in it, watch DBS episode 5 not BD ver., they tried to make a key animation, but failed horribly.

>>158334589
Toei have the highest salary rate, but DBS can't even reach 200,000 budget per episode, and the series having schedule problems.

>>158335615
>Toei have the highest salary rate
I doubt that's a number fairly calculated

Well, one fag manged to kill another thread. Time for a mod to delete this mess.

>>158335643
>stop talking about anime this way
not your safespace

>>158335680

It's ironic that you bring up safespaces since you're literally arguing like the people who use that term. You are in effect trying to create a safespace for yourself by drowning out all contrary opinions.

>>158335796
>you're arguing like the people who use that term
Well that's because I am using the term no?

>by drowning out all contrary opinions
Doing no such thing. The fuck is wrong with you?

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>>158335860

>this is not your safespace!
>sounds like you're the one who wants the safespace
>well I did use the term, no?

Are you for real?

>>158335910
>>sounds like you're the one who wants the safespace
Literally was never said before this point. You're trying to make an argument please refrain from quoting people that don't exist.

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Honestly, pre-zombie Gainax was my shit.

I want to believe in Trigger, since they are very hit or miss, but the hits are amazing.

Kyoani makes constantly quality shows to look for but some of them don't fill me as much emotionally.

Shaft got old really fast after watching like three or four other shows that took Monogatari's aesthetic and style and made it far less unique and special. Madoka is still great.

Bones is constantly good stuff but it really relies on the source material. Same with Madhouse.

I don't care that much for other studios, except for their individual shows.

>>158335633
It's fairly calculated, you can also stay on their 5 star class hotels, and work on artistic workplace. Toei earned $2.5 Billion last year, next to Pokemon $3.3 Billion and Sanrio $4.4 Billion, other studios even Sunrise can only dream earning that high.

>>158335940

>Literally was never said before this point.
>You are in effect trying to create a safespace

You are a complete idiot.

"B-But that wasn't what he said!"

I'm the one who made both posts and I'm telling you that's exactly what I was saying. You're rushing to contradict anything someone says in response to you that you lost track of your own train of thought and contradicted yourself. You also did this above with your failed toei arguments. Good job.

80s AIC

>>158335994
How much of that money goes into advertisement though? advertising is pricey. And doesn't how much they make and how much they pay be opposites?

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>>158333469
>QUALITY
Cels nigga also that was a bad screen shot.

>>158304446
Shin-Ei Animation is still my favorite studio.

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>>158336010
>>sounds like you're the one who wants the safespace
But keep quoting non-existent beings, or if you quoted yourself right there you have a wrong grasp on how green-text works. But keep posting tumblr .gifs as if I needed any indication you're a poseur.

>>158336061
>webm
Eureka Seven did it better.
>cels
As much as I love cels. It doesn't excuse the body proportions being off like that or the lack of shading.

>>158336156

>But keep quoting non-existent beings
I don't exist?

>or if you quoted yourself right there you have a wrong grasp on how green-text works.
I think you're the one who doesn't understand how greentext is used on 4chan if you think people only use it for direct quotation. Are you new by any chance?

>But keep posting tumblr .gifs
That gif came from 4chan. But go ahead and keep deflecting in anger any time something doesn't work with your argument. At least in that aspect, you've learned exactly how 4chan argues.

It's also rich that you get mad at someone posting a 'tumblr gif' and then you post an edited image that looks closer to something that would come from tumblr. And from a show you claimed you didn't like about 10 posts ago.

I think you are legitimately touched in the head.

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Gonzo

TRIGGER NIGGER

There are better studios when it comes to doing series, but for none but Trigger I never tend to focus on them when I value an anime.
"This is good/bad" for me is not something that one should judge the creator, just the thing created itself

Trigger for some reason gives two vibes that i like a lot about them:
1)that they seem to be westaboos
2)that they have a blast doing their works, and I think it shows

Trigger studio is not my favorite because it does the best anime, but because I've noticed that coming from them I'm unconciously willing to be more lenient when criticizing their works, most likely due to wishing them to get great like rooting for the underdog

>>158336344
>reddit spacing
stop

>I don't exist
Didn't say this.

>4chan if you think people only use it for direct quotation. Are you new by any chance?
Never claimed this.

>That gif came from 4chan
tumblr .gif doesn't refer to its origin.

>you're just angry
not an argument

>you've learned how 4CHAN argues
4chan isn't an individual. I am. Also not an argument.

>you're just mad
not an argument

>you posted something that would come from tumblr
Again. Nothing wrong with that. I posted cels.
>it's from a show you claimed you didn't like 10 posts ago
I don't think that's right because I fucking love sakura. Surprised you didn't use the word 'hate' here. Perhaps you learned being a drama queen is pointless after all.

>you're just touched in the head
nvm, you didn't learn a thing. Still no argument

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>>158336344
Also Sakura is not made by Toei and that image is actually pretty in-character had you seen the show. So nothing inherently tumblr about it. The more you know really. I fucking love cels.

>>158336459

>reddit spacing
Not gonna read the rest of your post since you can't go one post without deflecting. Try again and actually stick to my points and maybe I'll grace you with a response.

>>158336525
>since you can't go one post without deflecting
I'm not deflecting at all. I'm still responding to every ounce of your post merely pointing out your reddit spacing as an observational fact.

>>158336518

>Also Sakura is not made by Toei
I never said this.

>and that image is actually pretty in-character had you seen the show.
No it isn't.

>>158336585
I never claimed to dislike sakura, I've only talked about Toei shows. So yes you did claim Sakura was made by Toei

Madhouse.

>>158336059
No, all of their big properties are well-known, their advertisements are miniscule, companies go with them to make advertisements with their ips, and they're on Billions of dollars, on other studios, rarely, two are lucky enough to reach 100 Million dollars, the rest are on the red or 1$ ~ 50$ Million, you do the math. Googlfu it.

>>158336613

>I never claimed to dislike sakura
When someone above made a joke post about CCS and Princess Tutu being good shows, you wrote out a huge rant of shows and emphasized at the end that all of them are better than CCS.

>I've only talked about Toei shows.
You also talked about a lot of shows you thought were Toei but someone corrected you that they weren't. But instead of admitting you were wrong, you started deflecting like mad.

>So yes you did claim Sakura was made by Toei
Please quote where I said CCS was made by Toei. You are seriously the craziest person I have ever talked to.

>>158304446
one piece is all QUALITY now. it started deterioating around the halfway point.

IMO:
1. madhouse
2. bones
3. trigger

honorary mention to gainax for TTGL

>>158336743

I'm not really a part of the debate you guys have been having, but I do want to point out that not all the money an anime studio makes comes from the shows. Toei probably makes the bulk of its money from merchandise and investments in outside ventures. Though I don't know if you are arguing for how much money these companies make from just their anime or how much they make from all revenue streams. If you're arguing that Toei is one of the more profitable because of all their investments combined, then it's probably true.

>>158325730
SAME FACE
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>>158336965
It's not a debate.

Toei biggest earnings came from licensing, last year biggest contributors are Dubai's biggest theme park, the Saudis, and Mcdonalds, next are local distributors and advertisements, next is merchandising, last ones are movie earnings and license agreememts, the rest are sponsors, side projects, outsourcing etc.

Dogakobo is based.

>>158337873

So basically like I said. Their biggest revenue comes from sources outside of anime. Again, I wasn't part of the original discussion so I don't know if you were arguing about who makes the most money from anime or just the total earnings of each company.

>>158337873
forgot Bandai

>>158338165
salary

>>158338165
It's not an argument.

>>158323853
>shadefag
fuck off ktaing

>>158336780
>TTGL
shitty getter robo clone

>>158304446
you think your fucking funny m8?

Telecom Animation Film.

>>158338165
Clearing it out, 2.5$ Billion last year are all from Toei animation only, license animation ips, not including the other Toei studio with Japanese celebrities, so by your logic, all of those $ came from their animus.

Gainex was my favorite

Shaft is freaking fantastic, their animation is top tier almost always.

Bones and Madhouse do a lot of good stuff.

There's not a lot, but I have really enjoyed almost everything whitefox has done.

>>158339771
haven't watched getter robo, so I don't care.
looks like some obscure -in-too-deep- weaboo shit

>>158342798
Fuck off, it's just you're too young for this.

>>158342984
>too young
being a fossil and watching one of the few robot anime at the time doesn't mean you have superior ""taste""

>>158342798
Getter Robo isn't obscure

>>158304980
What's this ugly looking animation?

>>158304446
Old classic movie.

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>>158304446
only acceptable answer

>>158347102
It's actually unacceptable because at this point why not just Gainax?

>>158336062
Just for Crayon Shin-chan or is there anything else?

Kyoto Animation

>>158343217
watch it, no childish nonsense bullshit excuse, and make your own opinion, you faggot