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Leave Vegeta to me.
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Best female kaioshin coming through
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>>157493346
Who will lose first Universe 9 or Universe 10?
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>>157493463
9
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>>157493463
U10, who believes on proteins anyway?
That team really need evil Goku back
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>>157493346
anons, do you think Toei plans to expand on the U6 Saiyans or something? There is a lot of potential in a full saiyan planet adventure.
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>>157493463
I think people are propably underestimating U10 somewhat. They will propably perform bad but their individual strenght might be nothing to sneeze at.
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>>157493530
I fucking hope so.
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>>157493591
Nah, they are basically being treated as a joke and that is exactly what they are. First team to job, clearly.
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>>157493583
They had to have watched DBZ Abridged
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>>157493530
lol no who cares about saiyans
I was interested after the U6/U7 tournament but now I'm more interested in other universes
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>>157493530
Hopefully not. The nu-saiyans from U6 are boring.
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>>157493591
I'm glad my boy Gowasu is still doing the Godtube thing though
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>>157493486
but Cabba belongs to Cauli
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>>157493651
all that talk about godtube wasnt for show
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>>157493346
Where are my Shueishabros at?
Fellow JUMP-lads and DB Roomies report in.
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>>157493591
Poor Gowasu is fucked.
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Dragon Ball Super Episode 91: Fucking Nothing Happens! Will Universe 7's Audience Die of Boredom?!
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>>157493672
This. With the exclusion of the more powerful universes from the tournament we've pretty much been given a heads up on what the future arcs will be.
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Best team coming through.
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>>157493583
>this image is what will be seen once any hentai poster on /a/ doesn't follow the rules.
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>>157493698
I fucking love their outfits. Shame they are wasted on noncanon characters.
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>>157493733
Team leader guy looks like he's fairly tough... Hopefully.
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Are these the most lazy designed and drawn characters in anime?
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I miss how saiyans used to be beefcakes.
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>>157493692
*Cauli belongs to Kale
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>>157493733
>best team
>its just a ningen without rob and other 9 ningens with robs
U10 is totally fucked
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>>157493810
>>157493864
Dudes it's a mirror universe so it's normal for them to look alike and the opposite of the saiyans at the same time
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>>157493733

I love these guys. It's the first time in a long while that it felt like old DB/DBZ humor was executed well. That scene when they whipped out their protein shakes and started drinking had the perfect timing and reminded me of the Ginyu Force.

It'd be great if they were actually the real deal in a fight, though they'll probably job hard.
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>>157493810
>Saiyans are suddenly anorexic
>They wonder why people don't like the artstyle

really makes me think
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>>157493810
>most lazy designed
That spot is reserved for Hit
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>>157493810
I've seen worse, but yeah it is pretty bad.
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>>157493733
Honestly everyone is saying they are a joke but you never know a characters power in DB until they get serious in a fight. Goku is a fucking clown but he can get serious and kick ass.
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>>157493698
Are there any jump-ladies around?
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>>157493651
Toei hates TFS , rightfully so for stealing their product.
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>>157493890
This is what they want you to think, anon.
Don't fall for Toreyama's trap.
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>>157494008
>Stealing
That's not how fair use works.
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Why is Caulifla so perfect?
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What did Grand Priest mean by this
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>>157493988
Just like Monaka, right? They clearly look like the Monaka of this arc, except they are a whole team of Monakas. I can picture something like Master Roshi soloing their entire team in seconds.
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>>157493733
>The one in front of the lead guy is a fucking bird

Too bad they forbid flying.
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>>157493346
>4 hours until the tournament
>literally only 5 people on earth know that the universe could be destroyed

what did son goku mean by this?
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>>157493346
>ToP starts
>80% of the participants gets blown away by some stupid skill
>all these episodes were a huge waste of time
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>>157494011
Anon, don't do this to yourself. If you are going to hype yourself for a team, then do it for one which actually has a chance of having a good performance. Teams like U10 are clearly the jobbers of the early game.
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>>157493871
I hope yurifags get btfo.
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>>157494011
Toriyama's trap was always making small guys the strongest while the much bigger people weaker.
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>>157493810
anyone made an edit like pic related for caulifa yet
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Wonder why no one is talking about the fact that Beerus is still pissed off at Buu for eating his pudding. I remember that when Goku tried recruiting Buu for U6, Buu was pissed of at Beerus too. Love the very small dynamic between the two, considering Buu nearly caused Beerus' death.
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>>157494044
She looks like she's really happy about something. She gonna hug Cabba?
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Leave Cauliflower to us.
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>>157494064
Well it seems like next episode the rest of their team finds out considering how in the PV they said they're dropping out too.

Also, about your pic, is ChiChi Black ALSO Zamasu?
Did he possess two ningens so he could fuck himself as a ningen? Is this some kind of fetish thing?
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>>157494045
You assume he's doing a jerking off motion, what he's doing is that thing where you'd hit someone on the back/shoulders signifying they're working out/toughening up. That's all.
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>>157493810
A few extra subtle muscle tones would've easily fixed them.
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>>157494045
Art of all the angels doing this when?
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>>157493463
Universe 9
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>>157494087
when I read that I thought about puar or oolong turning into a giant fan and literally blowing them away
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>>157493924
Yeah but it doesn't make U6 saiyans any less shit for being Auschwitz twigs.
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>>157494106
It's pretty clear the furries are the jobbers since they already fought and they sucked ass.
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>>157494064
You mean Son Gohan, Goku wanted to tell them, but Gohan stopped him.
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>>157493988

Yeah but Super has a bad track record of that.

>Poo and Magetta job hard while the saiyan and super serious Hit are the stronkest
>Zamasu is a bishonen
>Furry squad gets BTFO
>Toppo barely keeps up with Goku and I doubt he'll perform better the second time

A this point the only goofy character that's somewhat relevant is Buu, and guess what he's OUT.
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>>157494163
No anon, Bergamo won't suck ass this time
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>>157494150
She has big muscles. She can beat jiren or nappa in an arm restling macth any day
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>>157494064
I'd be totally down for Chi Chi Black
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Elder Kai offers to unlock fucking goku's hidden power. Gets told it takes too long. Why don't they just kick Vegeta out of the fucking time chamber for a few god damn minutes.
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>>157494129
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>>157494169
Eh, Magetta was probably their second strongest. I actually really liked him.
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>>157494231

Incoming Shindol NTR doujin
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>>157494231
Leave the whole U6 to us.
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YAMCHA FOR BUU'S SPOT
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>>157494218
To be honest she could propably beat them with her pinkie.
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>>157494114
Regardless, the one thing for sure is that Kale despises Cabba so much she becomes femBroly. Maybe it is an autistic reason like OG Broly's hate for Goku.
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Mangastream translation is out.
http://readms.net/r/dragon_ball_super/024/4279/
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>>157494223
Can the door even be opened from the outside?
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>>157494223
because Goku can't focus and stay still for 25 hours without sleeping
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>>157494169
Magetta can be unstoppable if you block/remove his ears, no insults will stop him
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Is the Japanese version of Kai any good? I always hear great things about Kai, and I've tried to watch the dub, but I just can't stand it. Sabat and Schemmel both sound like shit now, Gohan's new VA is fucking terrible, and I just don't care for a lot of the new VAs either.
I never watched Dragon Ball in Japanese until Super, but now I've gotten used to the voices, so maybe I that would be the way to go.
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>>157494231
I hope Freeza murders the U6 Saiyans.
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>>157494223
Because them even bringing that up in the first place is as stupid as them not kicking out Vegeta.
Why didn't they unlock Goku's potential ages ago when they had spare time?
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>>157494261

Magetta is based and strong but his weakspot will cripple him out of relevance forever.
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>>157494035
They're making money off something that someone else made and owns. It's stealing, you whiteknighting TFS /r/eddit cuck.
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>>157494223
wouldn't it be like 10 minutes of real time for 25 hours in the chamber?
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>>157494306
Piccolo did it during the buu saga
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>>157494298
>manga "FUCK SHIT COCKSUCKER ASSHOLE" stream
nah
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>>157494169
Just you wait Magetta will return and kick the living shit out of Vegeta before throwing him out of bounds. Nobody insults a metalman like that.
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>>157493810
I like the Caulifla pants though.
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I hope Champa picks Yamcha for U6's team. Yamcha thinks it's just a normal tour and beating his friends wouldn't really matter. Champa thinks highly of Yamcha because of the baseball episode. I know it's not gonna happen, but I can still hope. Oh and, Yamcha x Kale too. If Bulma got herself a saiyan price, Yamcha needs the legendary saiyan woman.
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>>157494350
I didn't make up the law on fair use. It is parody. Parody falls under fair use.
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>>157493698
Always here Jump-lad.
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>>157494298
>niggastream
why should we care?
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>>157494298
Terrible
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>>157494417
Maybe we could have a cool Yamcha and Tien fight since they have always kinda been rivals and Tien is basically the Yamcha of Super at this point.
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>>157494419
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>>157494360
>manga "FUCK SHIT COCKSUCKER ASSHOLE" stream
But that's what makes Niggastream entertaining, anon.
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>>157494163
If I had to rank each team on the probability of being jobbers:
U10
U2
U9
U3
U4
U6
U7
U11


U9 is most likely going to job at some point, but U10 clearly will job first then anyone else.
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>>157494485
Dude has such a cuckface, it's ridiculous.
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>>157494417
>Yamcha joins Trio de Dangers
>Combination attack involving Wolf Fang Fist
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lol asspulls
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Frieza tournament MVP confirmed.
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>>157494417
>>157494471
>>157494541
make it happen
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>>157494503
I honestly don't know which universe is which

7 - Goku
6 - Hit
11 - Jiren?
2 - Magical Fat Girls
3 - ?
4 - ?
10 - Protein

Is furry 3 or 4?
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>>157494549
i thought Shin didn't know about Elder Kai's ritual.
Why can he suddenly do it now, in the universe where Elder Kai never awoke?
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>>157494582
>Implying he won't be the one that Zen disintegrates
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>>157494585
3 - Robots
4 - ? but Mouse god
9 - Furry
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>>157494585
Furry is 9. Rest is correct, but really, you should remember U10 for ZAMAS and Gowasu.
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>>157494585
Neither. Furry are 9. 3 is robots and 4 is insects.
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>>157494549
literally trying to salvage everything off Gohan so they can finally write him dying on the way back to his home planet
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>>157494637
3 is robots???? Fuck yeah i'm all for team robot.
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>>157494311
Yeah the kai jap is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arr_hU-iGB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZaWINhwToo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDNxBR4_afQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9-6gm3RdQI
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>>157494617
it's another ritual
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>>157494652
4 is insects? How do you know?
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7 is the furryverse.

Earth is literally ruled by King Furry. Saiyans are technically furries too because monkey people.
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>>157494628
After killing Frost.
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>>157494641
I never watched before Tournament of Power arc.
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>>157494672
This, I don't get how so many people are getting so confused over this.
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>>157494672
Another 25-hour weird dance ritual?
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>ywn sleep with Puar
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>>157493698
I want Goku's Heroes outfit in Super
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>>157494703
I see. Why would you do that, though? Did you hear about all those characters coming back?
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>>157494684
Damon, the insect fighter that leaked, is from U4.
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>>157494710
Old Kai's ritual was 5 hour long dance + 20 hours unlocking powers.
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>>157494721
so why doesn't puar be a woman all the time to please yamcha? or is that too gay? I mean they are sleeping together
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>>157494709
Why didn't Gohan have to do it?
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Honestly, this tournament's rules really favours U6 if they use the correct strategy. No flying and only way to lose is getting out of bounds?

>Match starts
>Everyone covers Magetta (who has earplugs) so he gets to the center of the stage where he's fucking invincible due to weight and defense
>Have the rest of the team fight around him to stop anyone from taking the plugs out while he spams lava attacks., and since everyone is grounded the lava becomes a stage hazard.
>Use Poo as a mobile shield, probably pair him up with a squishy but capable fighter that can stop opponents from just grabbing Poo.
>Let Hit and the saiyans trim down the competition
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>>157494721
wasnt yamcha suposed to be rich? his apartment looks kind of shitty
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>>157494485
Not an argument
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>>157494549
this kinda ruins trunks as a character.
he was supposed to be training all these years to defend earth if needed, and stoping babidi's plans by his own.

not to mention elder's kai dance is his main technique.
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>>157494752
Ah, I must have missed that then. Any pictures?
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>>157494763
I bet Hit is gonna btfo most of the fighters with his time stop bullshit
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>>157494054
Or he could be some kind of insect-humanoid creature.
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>>157494710
Elder Kai's ritual was a 5 hour long dance.

The apprentice ritual is different.

What's the point of becoming a Supreme Kai though if it takes away your healing powers though? At this point it seems like remaining an apprentice is more useful.
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>>157494768
Maybe he doesn't care? He lives alone with his cat.
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>>157494747
Basically I didn't really care about the adventures of Goku and Vegeta while everyone else sucked. Once I heard other characters may have some fights and be somewhat relevant I hopped on board. I knew some stuff that happened from my friend who would update me but I never watched any of it.
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>>157494617
It's unexplained but essentially the Initiation Ritual could just be another similar dance and not exactly the same as a Potential Unlocking Ritual.
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>>157494805
It's still there on the website. Hasn't been deleted yet.
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>>157494810

Nah, the tournament is happening in a dimension with no time, so he's crippled in that front. No King Crimson bullshit out of him.
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Reminder that my waifu is going to beat the living shit out of your U6 ape twats
Dumb monkeylovers the time of your pathetic fanfiction characters is fucking over
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>>157494810
And then, he will job to Jiren (losing to Jiren in a possibly spectacular way to make Jiren look very strong. I.e. what jobbing means, right?)
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>>157494805
No, it's just a couple of lines of description from toei's websites source code.
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>>157494829
this

what even are the powers of a kaioshin? creating kacchin metal? he can't even teleport like kibito
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>>157494763
>Poo

Uhhhh what the hell is there seriously a character named Shit?
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>>157494768
>NEVER THOUGHT
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>>157494884
Didn't he warp them from Zeno's palace after the exhibition matches?
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>>157493346
Well that guy looks intimidating.
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>>157494878
I actually hope for a good Vegeta vs Hit Fight with Vegeta winning.
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>>157494805
Guy behind smugpup in the intro
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>>157493591
They are the jabroni universe along with the dog fucker one
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>>157494884
Well, they can use the time rings. Apprentices can't do that.
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>>157494889
he's probably talking about the winnie the pooh lookalike
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>>157494861
>>157494883
>>157494957
Thank you.
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>>157494763
>They'll blind Magetta somehow, rendering him unable to do anything since he can't hear
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>>157494869
i really like this design.
it reminds me to those wonderboy characters and those covers of arale riding dinosaurs.

is there a name for it?
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>>157494889
There isn't, his name is Botamo. His design is just like Winnie the Pooh though.
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>>157494889
His actual name is Botamo, people call him Poo because he looks like Pooh-bear
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>>157494884
>he can't even teleport like kibito
Yeah he can that's how he and Gowasu saved Trunks and Mai.
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>>157494993
>Krillin's only job
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>>157494941
I'd also hope for Vegeta to catch a break and contribute something meaningful this time. Frost, Cabba and Magetta weren't all that impressive in U6 vs U7, and he easily lost to Hit.
Wouldn't be mad if Vegeta beat him now.
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>>157494884
GoD is linked with you, so as long as you God isn't crap like Beerus, he'd always keep you safe.
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>>157494829
Perhaps it diverts and unlocks potential within your mind instead of letting the Kai/Force magic flow out of you?
Perhaps the trade off is the access to a diverse variety of telekinetic magic abilities such as telepathy, advanced force pushes and even wormholes?
No matter how you look at it it fits in line with Shin not being a healer early as the Buu saga.
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>>157494993

Maybe Tien can make himself useful and just tribeam the floor under him until there's no stage left and he falls off.
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>>157493733
>mfw they turn out to be stronger than captain ayy lmao
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>>157495036
Vegeta will probably defeat an idol.
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>All those mechas from U3 in the preview
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>>157495023
>>157494929
yeah ok so he can teleport, what else can he do? he has not shown any special unique power, he's not even that strong
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Who /universe3/ here?
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>>157494996
Brianne de Chateau for her normal identity, she transforms into Riburianne via mahou shoujo transformation sequence which is the fat teletubbie you see in the intro.
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>G-Goku and Zamasu are even! T-Toyocucks!
>G-Goku grappled with Zamasu! He's s-stronger!
It's always funny when Toeishills get BTFO after crying about an untranslated partial chapter and then go entirely silent.
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>>157494219
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>>157494884
Shin does "Kai-Kai" teleportation all the time, he even tp'd again this last chapter to save Vegeta after Goku IT'd in.
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Nice
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>>157495110
I am teamrobot since
>>157495117
let me down. I was so happy to see a cute waifu and then she turned into a fat piece of garbage wtf.
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>>157494972
Except all you gotta do is wear some green potaras and you're fine on that end.

Zamasu managed to keep his healing abilities as an apprentice, create katchin blocks, wormholes, and use the time rings.

Being a genuine Kaioshin sucks it seems.
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>>157495028
>>157495058
Aaaaand their jobs are done. They will get knocked out soon after.
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>>157495142
He's still much stronger than he should be. I actually think this chapter would've been a good time to introduce SSBKKx10, would've shown why Goku was not using it before, and we already knew the consequences. His mastered SSB form basically feels like it anyways. >>157495143
Holy shit, thank you.
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>>157495110
>All these robotbros in U3
>Magetta is stuck with anorexic kids, purple dickhead, notfreeza and pooh
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>>157495097
>>157495110
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Why is everyone assuming the wormholes are Future Zamasu's doing? Didn't Black have space time powers in the anime?
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>>157495153
So god damn kawaii
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>>157495076
Could Vegetafags ever recover if he lost to an idol?
Though she isn't more ridiculous than Buu or anything.
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>>157494549
Fuuuucking duuuuumb!
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>>157495288
Yeah they'd be fine. Other characters have been treated much worse.
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>>157495142
Don't forget those retards claiming Goku was Mafuba'ing his God ki.
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>>157493583
If Zeno and Popo are related that'll be the deepest fucking lore. What was Popo anyways? did he have a backstory? I watched Dragon Ball a total of 1 times when I was like 8.
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>>157495210
I'd actually be fine with them achieving even that actually. I want all 10 of them to get a shining moment. And SOMETHING for Yamcha, it's never funny when the inside joke becomes official. Toriyama had Yamcha lose, but at least he didn't make a joke out of it. Yamcha dying to Saibamen wasn't supposed to be funny, Germany stabbing him wasn't a joke, or Tien breaking his leg. I guess him losing to kami was supposed to be funny, but that was literally God himself. He was supposed to bring really unlucky, not someone to be shit on.
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>>157495239
Arbitrarily adding a 10X multiplier is stupid and shouldn't be brought back.
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>>157495239
>He's still much stronger than he should be
Not really. Black hasn't completed SSR and Zamasu is weaker than Trunks.

SSG Goku rekted SS2 Trunks in a split second.
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>>157495244
Purple dickhead did nothing wrong though
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>>157495339
he's a genie
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>>157495370
Dude he kills people, hes evil.
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>>157495288
I actually don't see that happening, if it does happen, it'd be a blow sure though.
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>>157495399
It's his job, also he makes donuts, which isn't evil
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>>157495339
Soon.
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Please please let these robots be homages to Mazinger, Getter, Tetsujin and other classic Super robots of the 70's.
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>>157495434
Zen-Po?
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>>157495399
Are you twelve by any chance?
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>>157495369
But then why didn't goku do this before and kill Black before all this BS happened? Is this why Toyo never had Goku fight Black 1v1? All of Vegeta's gains are for nothing now.
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>>157495399
he's chaotic neutral tbqh
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>>157494884
Matter creation, telekinesis, matter manipulation, teleportation, telepathy and enough power to blow up stars if not solar systems.
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>>157495338
I was the one that translated the leak stating that the use of words was similar but they never directly state he used the Mafuuba.
It wasn't as emphasized in the English translations but Vegeta stated he "sealed" his Ki within, nothing more. nothing less.
Regardless it's still a mystery when and where Goku perfected the "sealing" capability.
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>>157495402
It's a team fight, they'll probably just go ATATATATATA at each other for a bit and that'll be the whole extent of that 1v1.
Someone has to make her unconscious body trip over Tenshinhan's foot so it looks like he did something.
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>>157495459
Pooh.
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>>157495402
It will happen.
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>>157495462
>>157495480
Wow read Batman comics. If you kill you are evil. It's as simple as that.
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>>157495399
People dying is part of the natural cycle,kid.
He's just making it faster so we can get away from this filthy world. It's justified.
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First Kaneki and now Cabba will have his dick wet.

Who will be next, Sanji? Deku?
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>>157495399
He was letting Goku go, he probably has some morales. But, even if he does kill people, he's still not evil. He's not good either. Neutral.
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>>157495475
>But then why didn't goku do this before
Read the chapter anon, he clearly states that it's breaking his body. Also he was in charge of sealing Zamasu which Vegeta couldn't do.
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>>157495527
So Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan, Beerus, or pretty much anyone else in Dragon Ball is evil?
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>>157495534
Samurai Jack. Oh wait, forget about it.
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>>157495420
So if I use a donut to kill someone I'm not evil?
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>120 fighters and still not a single dead warrior from the other universes Other World
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Episodes 94 and 95 spoilers when
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>>157495559
Yes they crossed the line.
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>>157493733
Gowasu's video when?
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>>157495583
17 minutes
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>>157494419
Fair use is a legal recourse, not a law.
If toei wanted to they could go to court and btfo TFS because the retards are profiting from their copyrighted material via ad revenue and merchandise.
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>>157495339

Nah, no backstory. Just a random fat black guy.
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>>157495567
I don't know, you should ask Hit about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFb8mjFnN8
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>>157495475
>All of Vegeta's gains are for nothing now.
At least it's not as bad as Black stabbing himself to surpass Vegeta, making his one year of training pointless.
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Just watched episode, I felt so cockblocked not getting smug pup, not even in the previews.
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>>157495434
Fuck you I almost choked on my coffee
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>>157495480
>chaotic neutral
Would'n he be Lawful Neutral? Since he is part of organization and seems to follow some set of rules/principles. If he was Chaotic he would just do thing for fun. Goku is Chaotic.
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so what do you guys think this tournament will be like
>5 episodes of weakling fights
>1 episode where goku gets serious and goes ssj blue xkk 1000 and everyone gets blown off the level except one strong guy probably the ayy
>1 episode final fight
>i want all universe be back so we fight again
>hooray happy end
>some hamfisted reason that they must now fight the other 4 universes
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>>157495555
He could've still ended Black very fast before his body would break down. Sealing Zamasu was not even a priority at that point, when Vegeta was fighting Black, Goku didn't even mind that Zamasu got freed from the mafuba, as he said, Zamasu wasn't even capable of killing Trunks alone. Vegeta could keep Zamasu busy and Goku could kill Black fast.
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Why didn't the elder kai and Goku simply going to the hyperbolic time chamber and spend 25 hours in the hyperbolic time chamber getting Goku powers unlocked. If it's one day out there and one day in the chamber then surely 25 hours will be like a min or so
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>>157493346
I thought this was interesting when Shin mentioned being a disciple of the GRAND Supreme Kai.
Both Viz and MS fucked up and didn't translate well by forgetting to mention him.
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>>157495675
Don't worry anon he'll show up soon, just like Goggles-Chan and Damon
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>>157495661
Do Turles and Gotenks help him make donuts?
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>>157495534
probably sanji once his bride stops trying to kill him
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>>157495762
Whoops pic glitches out.
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>>157495762
Like that excuses the fact that they completely pulled that out of their ass.
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>>157495707
I fully expect a few universes will remain on the stage when the time runs out at there will be an elimination bracket
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>>157495488
>Matter creation, telekinesis, matter manipulation, teleportation, telepathy and enough power to blow up stars if not solar systems.
All abilities Zamasu has despite only being an apprentice.
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>>157495665
Even after all that, I don't actually think the clones actually managed to do anything to home other than keep him busy.
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>>157495785
No, they aren't from or can't go to U6
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>>157494829
>What's the point of becoming a Supreme Kai though if it takes away your healing powers though?

seriously. losing them like that is just weird
it's like they just needed an apprentice to have something to do

>>157494884
>>157495488
would be nice to see Shin on the job.
creating life , planets etc.
being a deity of creation and all
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>>157494119
is there an edit like that but for Magi?
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>>157495864
But then how can Hit go to U6 to fight Goku?
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>>157495825
Zamasu was a standard Kai too though.
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>>157495762
>Both Viz and MS fucked up and didn't translate well by forgetting to mention him.
God fucking dammit.
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>>157495732
>He could've still ended Black very fast before his body would break down
Baseless assumptions

>Sealing Zamasu was not even a priority at that point, when Vegeta was fighting Black
You're talking about when Future Zamasu was constantly healing him?

>Goku didn't even mind that Zamasu got freed from the mafuba,
No he pretty much admited he fucked up.

>as he said, Zamasu wasn't even capable of killing Trunks alone
Not completely true, even though Zamasu isn't physically strong he has a ton of haxed powers, plus he's immortal.

>Vegeta could keep Zamasu busy and Goku could kill Black fast.
See above.
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>>157495913
I don't remember, I don't think that was mentioned in those episodes
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>>157494125
More than likely the classic anime scene where the girl trips and falls on top of the guy.
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>>157495913
Vados propably shipped him over with the cube.
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>>157493864
what a literally faggot
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>>157495610

DBZA is basically the anime community's Mother 4. It is a rip off but can't can't be taken down easily, especially since Funimation collaborated with TFS on a scene that got cut in the end.
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When will Beerus be relevant again?

>Right before tournament, surprise announcement before it starts
>If a team is reduced to 1 member, that universe's GoD can enter the ring and fight alongside that member for 5 minutes
>Later on, universe 11 fighting with universe 7
>Gohan fighting Toppo, Jiren is fighting both Goku and Vegeta
>11 is trying to take out Gohan and then double KO Goku and Vegeta, 7 is trying to take them both out at the same time
>Toppo and Gohan ring out at the same time
>11's GoD enters immediately
>Not even a minute in, Jiren and his GoD have Goku and Vegeta up against the edge of the ring, the GoD was surprised that it even took that long but now he's gonna knock them both out, eliminating U7
>Vegeta again realizes that Goku is the best and that he's just pulling Goku down, like in the Buu arc
>Vegeta tells Goku to win for him, Vegeta jumps off
>Beerus enters the fight

Would be hype y/n
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>Beerus will never hug you
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>>157493547
Is she best girl?
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Is anyone else bothered by how much extra time Vegeta is spending in the Time Chamber in comparison to Goku? At this rate he's going to be 20+ years older than him and maybe even die of old before the series is over.
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>>157495836
Because Black didn't want to kill them yet. Do you even remember this arc?
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>>157496051
kys
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>>157494150
handjob edit when?
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>>157495258
Well, both are pretty much Zamasu.
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>>157496051
That sounds retarded sorry anon.
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What's an actual reason that Freeza would agree to the tournament and not just kill somebody for the hell of it?
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>>157496071
>anyone dying of old age when the dragon balls exist
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>>157496051
Pedro finally woke up.
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>>157495958
Reading the chapter in which Zamasu and Black fused. Vegeta was beating Black up, and Goku was beating Zamasu up. He wasn't letting him get to black or run away. If the position of Goku and Vegeta was reversed, how would it matter? Goku would've ended Black very fast, Vegeta could've held Zamasu back like Goku did.
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>>157496105
Goku wishes him back to life if he helps them.
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>>157496105
Letting him wish for inmortality if they win
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I guess Krillin and 18 will accept if they're just told the truth about the tournament
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>>157496105
Beerus.
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>>157496105
Well to start the fact that the entire Universe is in peril means Frieza may be completely erased as well since the afterlife goes with it for that Universe. 2nd i'd imagine they cut a deal that Frieza can return to life if he cooperates.
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>>157495762
That's interesting.

Is it possible there's only really one Supreme Kai at a time, and apprentices can fill the role so the GoD doesn't die?
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>>157496161
Nope. They will be replaced by Cell and Yamcha.
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>>157493733
team leader has same forehead pattern as krillin - will be beaten by krillin, tien and roshi
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>>157496128
>If the position of Goku and Vegeta was reversed, how would it matter?
See >>157495555
>he was in charge of sealing Zamasu which Vegeta couldn't do.

and >>157495958
>Not completely true, even though Zamasu isn't physically strong he has a ton of haxed powers, plus he's immortal.
Goku knew about these Vegeta didn't.
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>>157496146
>>157496148
And Freeza would actually believe that? What makes you think Goku would keep his promise?

>>157496170
>>157496177
Why would Freeza give a shit at this point? Nonexistence would be better than Hell. And you get to fuck over Goku.
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>>157496105
Being taken out of the cocoon.
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>>157496128
According to whom?
Goku was not confirmed to be considerably stronger than Vegeta prior to this chapter where the ki sealing powerup asspull was introduced, trying to rationalize the powerup as him holding back all along contradicts their portrayal in earlier arcs.

if anything he would've gotten destroyed by Black
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>>157496105
not getting his soul erased
getting out of his cocoon
winning the day as best warrior and getting his wish
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>>157488885
I'm sorry anon but I'm too busy to freezapost for you
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>>157496034
>not liking beefcake saiyans
Your taste a shit
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>Trunks becomes Supreme kai of U7
>Beerus comes back
>Hakai
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>>157495665
I do prefer Vegeta's training kept him better than Black but weaker than MZamasu, as opposed to this bullshit in the anime.
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Heres to hoping Gowasu realizes how fucked he is and somehow gets Goku Black/Zamasu into the tournament
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>>157495707
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>>157496249
Because he can possibly escape hell and get revenge for himself?
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>>157495805
It's been like that since the original Buu saga where Shin got Kibito to heal Gohan lying in the woods after fighting Fat Buu you moron.
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>>157494064
Fuck this faggot's disgusting fan art!
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>>157496074
I admit it's been a long time but, by this time Black was full on murder mode. He wasn't wasting time by then, and this was AFTER Vegeta beat the shit out of Black and humiliated him. I don't believe Black was still playing around after getting his ass handed to him. And remember, Black agreed that the saiyans were no longer someone that he could take lightly anymore. Which is why he fused immediately. I don't think there is any proper evidence to say that he was actually stronger than Vegeta am even after his rage boost.
I'd concede defeat if proven wrong though.
My actually point was that Goku being always capable of going MSSB means that Vegeta's gains were for nothing, i need the anime this allowed him to finally beat Black, something no one by then had managed to do. But in the manga, Goku could always do it, but let Vegeta do it for his feels, AGAIN.
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>>157496288
>goku black form zamasu technically isn't a god anymore so he'd be allowed into the tournament

okay
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>>157496315
I'm talking about Trunks getting the healing powers, you fucknugget.
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>>157496312
I would personally kill somebody in the tournament just for fun at that point then.
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>>157496367
But then he just goes right back to hell or gets erased?
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>>157495665
On top of that Goku beats Merged Zamasu in a beam clash without Kaioken, damaging half his body.
While Trunks and Vegeta working together couldn't do the same.
Toei really took a shit over Vegeta's training.
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>>157496379
So? You get to erase Goku too, who killed you twice.
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>>157496262
But isn't that what toyo means? Goku didn't just unlock MSSB, he did that a log time ago. So he was just holding back.
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>>157496343
>Do you even remember this arc?

>by this time Black was full on murder mode

So no then.
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>>157494064
20 years in gimp definitive edition pro
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Why doesn't Kaioshin make everyone their disciples? That way they wouldn't need senzu so much anymore!
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>>157496354
That's just your opinion considering he was already foreshadowed as getting the Kai treatment wielding the Z Sword earlier on.
Perhaps you're just jaded because the anime continuity's Dabura flashback was vomit inducing?
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>>157493591
>yfw Future Trunks appears in the tournament and fights seriously with Vegeta
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>>157496274
I like tits, faggot
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>>157496408
But Vegeta and Trunks were alright after the clash, Goku destroyed both his hands after the clash, something that has never happened in the series before, and the damage to Zamasu was probably because of the consecutive damage from Galic Gun and Kamehameha, not Goku alone.
>>157496449
I'd like some evidence please.
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>>157496408
It's unapologetic Goku wank but still somewhat justified by the fact Goku broke his arms just for doing that, something that had never happened before.
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>>157496446
So Vegito could be even stronger by going MSSB? He would have been instanly defused if he did that
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How come the dragon can bring dead people who were obliterated (krillin) in the past but couldn't bring back frieza in super?
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>>157496408
It's worse when Goku in the manga didn't reveal his techique at all.

In your webm, goku has to go all out, while in the manga, he casually fight with merged zamasu.
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>>157496552
>I'd like some evidence please
Episode 64
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>>157496541
You sound insecure anon.
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>>157496585
Dragon does whatever the fuck it wants.
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>>157496249
>What makes you think Goku would keep his promise?

Goku would love to have Freeza revived so he can have another sparring partner.
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>>157493346
I actually thought this thing was supposed to be Buu's counterpart.
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>>157496077
>>157496104
>>157496119
It's hard to believe so many people have this shit taste.
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>>157494721
>Yamcha never made it big league with the Z-Fighters
>he hasn't broken out of the Minor Leagues
>friends don't rely on or respect him
>lives in a shity old apartment
>wears the same clothes

he probably had to sell his gi to someone online pretending it was Goku's to get mad cash just to eke out another day of his shitty existence.

breaks my heart.
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>>157493430
She looks like that fatty korean dictator.
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>>157496552
>>157496555
>But Vegeta and Trunks were alright after the clash
>Goku destroyed both his hands after the clash
And?

Two SSB tiers were out done by one SSB tier because he hurt hands.
Really?
wew
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>>157496585
Pretty sure that was Porunga and he said it was an added bonus. (Bulma thanks and winks at him after)
Shenron on the other hand has different properties even though he fitness an upgrade by Dende.
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>>157496559
What are you talking about? I'm saying that if Goku could always turn MSSB, why didn't he do it the last time they fought?
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>>157494721
Did he lose his baseball contract or something? His apartment looks like shit.
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>>157496600
>casually fight
Lies
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>>157496600
It wasn't casual, he God Ki leaking out of his body after hurting his hand represents that he's pushing his limit.
Vegeta comments that holding in all that God Ki can rip his body apart at any moment. He's trying his very best pushing his limit just to wait out the last remaining minutes.
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Waitwaitwait so:

Didn't Zamasu become the kaioshin of his own world? Isn't that why he can use the time rings?
So how come he can still heal? And how come trunks isn't the Kaioshin of his own universe, when his Kaioshin master died?
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>>157496696
oh yeah i forgot it was a different dragon
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>>157496296
Fixed
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>>157496600
I was able to move on with the shitty clash beam from toeicraps but it's fucking shit that goku fight easily with merged zamasu in the manga.

There is many ways to stall merged zamasu, toyotaro don't need to make Goku as powerul as him.

That's bullshit, GOKU>EVERYONE all over again
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>>157496763
>>157496776

That's casual for him. The point is goku's power level alone is enough for him to face off against a fusion between black, who was already stronger than him, and zamasu the immortal kaioshin.

It's idiotic.
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>>157496763
I'm sorry but when you go from this......
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>>157496829
>That's casual for him.
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>>157496602
What exactly did he say suggesting that he didn't want to kill the saiyans yet? Despite all his earlier lines contradicting that?
>>157496689
Kamehameha is a better technique, Vegeta had been fighting Black before that, Goku was doing nothing but just casually keeping zamasu out. And yes, Goku putting enough energy to destroy his hands when something like that had been unprecedented in the series is a big deal.
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>>157496851
>goku pushing himself
>not the absolute norm

Eat shit apologist scum.
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>>157496847
....to this.

It's dissapointing as fuck.

He should have been a threat to Vegeto at least
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>>157496782
Stealing potaras off a dead Supreme Kai may give you access to the time ring artifact but you cannot deceive the actual Potara fusion duration meant for Supreme Kais to fuse permanently.
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>>157496856
>Kamehameha is a better technique,
>v-vegeta was tried!!!!
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Reminder:

Toei, Tori, Toyo, they all planned for the Tournament to have six Saiyans.
Just enough for a proper Ritual.
Gohan will tell the Saiyans to join together, to get one more fighter up to God tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEo19bPO33o
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>>157496689
Nigger please, showing actual damage to the body when life-risking techniques are being shown is a break of pace from the omnipresent cliche of said techniques being spammed with reckless abandon.
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>>157496881
>pushing himself to your limit
>is casually fight
Retard
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>>157496931
For what reason?
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>>157493346
He want Vegeta P?
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>>157496782
arbitrary rules made on the spot by toyo.
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>>157496782
He killed Gowasu before he was officially made a Kaioshin, so he still has apprentice status.
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>>157496954
>Goku never pushed himself numerous times before

Are you trying?
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>>157496782
Zamasu is not a kaoishin in the manga, that's an important plot point in it actually. Time Rings unlock when the wearer in also wearing potaras, nothing else required, Zamasu's life isn't linked with a GoD, he wasn't promoted officially. So him whining about being a God fighting ningen is hypocritical since he isn't a God himself, only an apprentice. This is also why his fusion with Black isn't permanent and will (should) run out in 20 minutes.
Mai looks very pretty in tags picture.
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>>157496600
I gotta admit the manga has overall handled the black arc better.
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>>157496931
And what is that gonna do? Vegeta already got God powers just because. Not like God form would help anyone in U7. Gohan doesn't want it, Goku and Vegeta have it. And U6 has no idea about it which they are competing against.
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>>157493346
She kind of a less memorable Kirio Hikifune from Bleach given how Kirio actually had more to her
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Poor Puar
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>>157496898
>He should have been a threat to Vegeto at least
He's a fusion between one SSB level character and someone who isn't even SS2 strength?

Reminder SSG alone is above an implied SS3 Vegito in Battle of Gods.

Merged Zamasu isn't gonna be that much more powerful. Of course he's weak as shit. It'd be more stupid if he was Vegito level. It only makes since he could put up a fight in the anime because future Zamasu is SSB level for some reason.
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Is this tournament the biggest ever in anime history? Even bigger than Yu Yu Hakusho's Dark Tournament?

It would be fair since Dragon Ball started with the tournament troupe. I don't think this is going to be worst than 8/10. Hype is fucking real.
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>>157496906
Vegeta WAS tired, and again, Goku broke his limbs, Vegeta and Trunks week just panting after the clash.
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>>157496898
>I'm sorry but when you go from this......
Pay attention Goku overcame the weakness of SSB.
Also the same shit happened in the anime without an answer.
Goku and Vegeta get one shotted by Zamasu's lighting.
Then suddenly this>>157496408
>He should have been a threat to Vegeto at least

Vegeto Two SSBs
Merged Zamasu SSR and one person weaker than Trunks
Nope.
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>>157497084
>I don't think this is going to be worst than 8/10.
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
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>>157496931
>Kale gets the ritual
>Legendary power and Godly power combine
You thought this was just for a one-off thing? You thought this would be Broly exclusive?
TOEI PLAYED YOU ALL FROM THE START.
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>>157496990
That's not abritrary, there's. I evidence that a disciple gets promoted the moment a SKai dies.
Basic Kais not getting full Supreme Kai fusion duration isn't lore breaking or anything either.
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>>157497052
>And what is that gonna do? Vegeta already got God powers just because. Not like God form would help anyone in U7. Gohan doesn't want it, Goku and Vegeta have it. And U6 has no idea about it which they are competing against.

They make it canon.
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>>157497069
Do you really think Puar would keep his penis for the transformation into a young girl?
Roshi isn't a faggot.
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>>157497043
The first part yeah, then it went shit since merged zamasu happened.

>>157497072
They're gods god dammit, if they can fuck with time, they can do things to make their fusion more powerful.

There is a shitton of ways to do that but no, the secret asspull is for goku (who keep it to himself BTW)

>>157497100
>In the anime

We're talking about the manga here.

See above
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>>157497134
>there's. I evidence that a disciple gets promoted the moment a SKai dies.
Except Zamasu isn't an official Supreme Kai, and it's implied Rumoosh is dead.
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>>157495110
>When you're the U3 waiting room to see what mecha and toku are referenced
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>>157496856
>What exactly did he say suggesting that he didn't want to kill the saiyans yet?
See >>157496602
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So current power levels are

Goku >>>> Vegetto > Whis > Beerus > Merged Zamasu > Gohan > Vegeta
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>>157497159
>roshi not liking futa
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>>157497084
I guess since there are 80 entrants but its silly to even have that many when they can't give good fights for all of them.

>>157497135
>>157497118
But why would they power up the enemy?
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>>157496600
>casually fight
Retarded Toeishills crying about a chapter they didn't read as usual.
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>>157494617
>>157494672
>>157494852
>>157494710
OR, get this, the dance is the kai thing, but the sitting there with hands out is the witch side of things. It will be revealed that Gohan can also heal because of this.
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>>157496931
As much as I liked the God form, didn't they basically say Goku absorbed that power into himself anyway? What would making him red again accomplish?
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>>157497187
Tyler Bate > Goku > Whis
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>>157497187
>Goku >>>> Vegetto > Whis > Beerus > Merged Zamasu > Gohan > Vegeta
You missed Zeno
>Goku>>>>Zeno
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>>157497162
>They're gods god dammit, if they can fuck with time, they can do things to make their fusion more powerful.
>There is a shitton of ways to do that but no, the secret asspull is for goku (who keep it to himself BTW)
Except mastering SS forms has been a thing since the Cell saga, and it's clear SSB is breaking Goku's body apart as he struggles to wait out the remaining 20 minutes.

Hell Trunks mastered SS2. It's a lot less of an asspull than Merged Zamasu suddenly being way stronger than he should reasonably be. Not like he doesn't already have immortality and fucking magical/psychic powers in addition to his saiyan skills already.
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>>157497187
Maybe, Merged Zamasu was better against Vegeta than Goku.

BTW, base goku and base vegeta survive to an attack which was meant to Vegeto.
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>>157497162
>they can do things to make their fusion more powerful.
Nice headcanon.
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>>157497168
Sorry that's a spelling error, for some reason my auto correct goes haywire on 4chan only.
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>>157497118
>>157497135
oh god no no no PLEASE NO
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>>157497162
Actually I feel like they've done the merged zamasu part better too.
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>>157497257
Implying it won't be Gohan that gets it to win the tournament.
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>>157497230
Because Goku loves to fight strong enemies and they might ally until the end.

Honestly if they do a ritual though it's more likely they use Gohan and combine the potential unleashed with God.
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>>157497237
>Except mastering SS forms has been a thing
Yeah I know, but goku showed it to everyone, it was never a secret.

Here, no training (off screen), he just have it since the beginning.

Also, new things are good you know
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>>157497271
this is acutally true

zeno is either omnipotent or almost omnipotent
toriyama said that when goku is fired up his power goes beyond omnipotence
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>>157497230
U6 and U7 will team up fairly quickly. Guaranteed.
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>>157497323
Gohan doesn't want it. He wants his own special snowflake form.
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Manga
Whis>>Beerus=Vegetto>>Merged Zamasu>Goku>Vegeta>>>>Trunks
Anime
SSBx10 Goku>>>>Whis>>Beerus>>Trunks>>Vegetto=Bio Merged Zamasu>>Goku>>Merged Zamasu>>Vegeta
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>>157497374
>SSBx10 Goku>>>>Whis>>Beerus
WRONG
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>>157497257
Ladies and gentlemen, your Tournament of Power MVP.

>>157497118
>>157497135
NO!
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>>157497284
If toyo wanted it, they would have been able to.

They're gods, there is many possible ways to create that for toyo.

>>157497321
Zamasu is shit from the start but him being overpowered in the anime was entertaining, his god-like stance and the seiyuu were great.

In the manga, he may consistent but he's pretty generic
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>>157497373
He wants power from Ultimate, not SSJ. Ultimate SSG. I can see it. I still want Gohan to lose in the first minute, but I feel he'll be the winner of the tournament.
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>>157497323
This would be nice but won't happen. Unless it involves Ultimate form in some way.
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>>157497351
>Yeah I know, but goku showed it to everyone, it was never a secret.
Even Vegeta knew, despite not having mastered SSB, that using the form that way could break apart your body. It wasn't a secret, it's just dangerous, impractical and only being used for this emergency..
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>>157497237
>>157496763

Sorry nigger but having a character say "I hope my body can take this strain" is not how you portray body-straining techniques.
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>>157497391
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/
>if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6.
>Whis would be about a 15.

Reminder pic related is at least 60.
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>>157497118
>super saiyan god is skinny
>legendary super saiyan is monstrously swole

How would that even look?
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>>157497043
I don't really see how really. I understand it's your opinion but,if the anime adapted the manga's version, it would be hated a lot more.
Trunks completely sidelined, his greatest role yet is to be a shittier Namek dende.
Goku completely outdoing Vegeta AGAIN, despite Vegeta's year long training.
Black is boring really, he was much more fun to watch in the anime. His sophistication, went along great with his character as somehow whi saw himself above everyone else. He gets pissed off at someone like every other second in the manga.
Black technically never lost a single fight in the anime, that was really interesting, he would come up with something, b ut he would win or draw, in the manga he's a giant jobber.
Merged Zamasu was just like a jrpg God should be, completely original moves, his susanoo like bird, him not wanting to even touch the saiyans, to his beautiful halo should his status perfectly.
His half deformed body, while ugly, also clearly showed his dichotomy between his immortal and mortal half.
I actually liked SSRage, I understand people not liking it, but someone other than Goku and Gohan unlocking something new was a fresh change of pace.
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>>157497016
Are you intentionally missing the point or are you just that fucking stupid?
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>>157497444
>Even Vegeta knew

Fucking speedreader, it was thanks to the fusion that he's now aware of it.

It was a secret.
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>>157497458
>Reminder pic related is at least 60.
W R O N G

R

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>>157497459
It would be MAXIMUMEST
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>>157497323
Does Gohan need it though? He fared well against his dad in a super saiyan form of God saiyan.

That shit confuses the hell out of me. Isn't a god supposed to be exponentially stronger than anything else? How did Goku have trouble with Gohan or hell, any other universe fighter? Especially since Blue is EVEN STRONGER.
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>>157497458
Retconned by the time RoF came out.
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>>157497458
The way the multiplier doesn't make sense is probably why SSBKK isn't used in the manga.
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>>157497118
>>157497135
SO BEGINS THE YEAR OF LEGENDARY
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>>157497043
Me too anon.
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>>157497043
I agree.
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>>157497528
Instead toyble uses "mastered forms" to achieve the same effect.
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>>157494350
You're retarded they are not making any profits off their parody
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>>157497494
He doesn't need it or want it and he said so himself in the episode. He is taking a different path, not going down the same God Ki path of Goku and Vegeta.
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>>157497478
It was thanks to the fusion he knew Goku surpassed him, but it's because he's also Super Saiyan Blue that he knew keeping the power inside would fuck him up.
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>tournament begins
>9 fighters of each universe jump outside of the platform
>the 8 fighters remaining just sit down and wait for the 48 minutes to be over
>since each universe has 1 fighter left on the platform it's a tie and nobody gets deleted
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>>157496782
>Didn't Zamasu become the kaioshin of his own world?
No. He killed Gowasu before ever being elevated to legit Supreme Kai. It's a major plot point and the sole reason why Merged Zamasu's fusion has a time limit.

>Isn't that why he can use the time rings?
Time Rings become usable when the user is wearing Potara. Zamasu basically tricked the Time Ring into believing he's a Supreme Kai.

>So how come he can still heal?
Because he's still technically an apprentice Kaioshin.

>And how come trunks isn't the Kaioshin of his own universe, when his Kaioshin master died?
Because you aren't automatically elevated to Supreme Kaioshin when your master dies.

>>157496990
You're a retard who doesn't understand anything he reads.
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>>157497374
>>157497458
>Goku's power times ten is stronger than Vegetto
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>>157497444
You love the manga but you don't know shit about the last chapter?

Vegeta know about it because he fused with Goku, it was a fucking secret.

Also, Goku can sense energy, he should have know that Blacck was much more powerful than Vegeta but no, he grapple with zamasu then job to him.
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>>157497424
>Zamasu is shit from the start but him being overpowered in the anime was entertaining
Just because you find it entertaining doesn't make it less bad writing anon. You simply enjoy it. I enjoy the writing making more sense. I mean super is badly written overall but the anime goes above and beyond while the manga at least tries.
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>>157497458
Are people like you still using those arbitrary numbers that no longer mean anything, since the release of fucking ROF?
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>>157497459
Probably just like Super Saiyan God since it's just the base appearance but red, and SSGSS is what SSG power looks like while Super Saiyan.
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>>157497601
I don't care, DB isn't a masterpiece of writing anyway, it was entertaining.

Sorry if this trigger you.
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I fucking hate anime AND manga fanboys.
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>>157497118
>>157497135
>mfw
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>>157497462
The amount of asspull and stupid shit like time loop paradoxes fucked with the story too much in the anime.
The unexplained broken zenkai actually made me hate the show for being so retarded.
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>>157497062
>Kirio Hikifune

Who?

>Bleach

What?
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>>157497561
Makes more sense than insane multipliers from Kaioken.
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>>157497674
>I fucking hate anime AND manga
fixed that for you
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>>157493591
>implying loli's universe is anything other than doomed

Gowasu probably wants to end it all anyways, he raised a ningenphobic Shin, his GoD is a dumb fucking elephant, no one watches his godtube channel, nothing left to live for.
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>>157497601
So you want generic baddies with no personalities as long as their power levels make more sense? Would you also like a completely boring black solving maths equations instead and doing nothing else as long as the equations are correct? And I thought people like you are only being intentionally ironic
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>>157497723
>no one watches his godtube channel
TAKE IT BACK
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>>157497458
>There are STILL people too retarded to realize the 6 10 15 thing was retconned eons ago
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>>157497462
>Black technically never lost a single fight in the anime, that was really interesting,
I knew Blackfags just wanted a power fantasy character.
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>>157497458
What it actually means is Whis have so many multipliers if Goku would want to match him he'd need to be super saiyan 15
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>>157497118
>>157497135
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Surely there are some other creatures capable of Henge out there in DBZ

Why hasn't Roshi recruited his own personal one animal harem yet
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>>157497767
That's not wrong, Zamasu was the only legit good reason and he's not here anymore
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>>157497561
Id prefer that over stupid numbers and blatantly named multipliers
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>>157497316
>>157497415
good luck Cabbage
you're gonna need it
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>>157493733

What's with the flying manlet?
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>>157497723
>GOWASU-SAMA!
>LEAVE THE TOURNAMENT OF POWER TO ME!
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>>157493810

You take that back AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>157497703
The manga has its ass pulls too, a total least anime ass pulls were made to make the story meet interesting, s hike the manga ones are just fucking why?
I agree with the anime time fuckery, but at least it gave Zamasu a proper motivation to pick Goku as his body, manga Zamasu picked him just cause.
Zenkai are basically the same in both versions too.
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>>157497567
Are you fucking stupid? Have you not been on their website and seen all the TFS merchandise? Do you not realize they have a YouTube partnership?

Kill yourself you whiteknighting piece of trash.
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>>157497777
>I knew Blackfags just wanted a power fantasy character.
congratulations?
what the fuck do you thought black goku was even about, seeing a different side of a character? fucking tea?
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>>157497884
>a total least anime ass pulls were made to make the story meet interesting
Not really.
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>>157497600
You can't sense God Ki. It was confirmed earlier in the BoG arc of the manga as well for good measure.
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>>157494045

loli angel gave the bodybuilders handjobs off camera
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>>157497600
Stop trying to argue when you can't even speak English, Pedro.
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>>157497316
>>157497415
YOU GONNA GET MAXIMUM'D, BOY
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>>157497674
Both media are shit.

One is made by a fanfic tier anime studio.

The other is made by a fanfic tier mangaka.

Both are well know for their shit work


People like the Anime because it seems to be entertaining

People like the manga because it keep consistency.

The anime is retarded as fuck, destroyed goku, shit animation.

The manga is boring, shit choregraphy, relies too much on the old trope (he actual arc feels like buu's arc, goku>everyone as always).

About the "canon" part, toyotaro's words show that only the outline is canon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti89i2EZjWE
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>>157497600
Is english your second language?
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>>157497316
Do you think he will regret showing SSJ to them?
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>>157497955
Someone say maximum?
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>>157494231

he's a bigger guy
>>
At what point did DBS become another waifubait series?
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>>157497884
Zenkais are completely different don't lie. Black in the anime was complete fucked up and wasn't pushed to a near death experience whatsoever.
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>>157495339
>What was Popo anyways?
He's the attendant of earth's god, like what Whis is to Beerus or Kibito is to Shin.
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How wet do you think loli angel will get during this tournament fights?
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>>157498010
No shit Sherlock
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>>157497930
Are you retarded?

Only those who don't have god ki can't sense god ki.

God ki's user can sense the other gods ki.

Those who love the manga don't know shit about DB, not even DBS.
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>>157494485

if his voice was deeper he'd be a hit with the ladies

he sort of looks like ben affleck
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>>157498031
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>>157497777
It's not a power fantasy for me, I absolutely loved it when Vegeta beat the shit out of him.
This also reminded me, the anime had many moments which I loved in the arc, Goku and Black casually talking and ignoring Black and Zamasu while Zamasu and Black give their speech, knowing that no one is listening but continuing for their own gratification. And the Vegetto scene when Zamasu starts crying and Vegetto just looks on.
I also liked that despite killing the gods and especially Gowasu, he never gloated about that, he only did that because they would try and stop him, while manga Black gloated about killing Gowasu twice and laughing about doing it a 3rd time.
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>>157498072
Damn I wish I had a nutoei saiyan body
I get my shit kicked in all the time
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>>157498072
>punch him
>he get 10x times zenkai boost
thats not what near death experience is
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>>157494721
>tfw Yamcha sleeps with untransformed Puar

Roshi will never know true love.
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>>157498068
From what I remember the only line that suggests this is from the anime only episode in the RoF arc. No where else is it hinted at.
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>>157497948
>>157497996
He mean that Goku was aware about Black's strengt but let Vegeta fight him, Goku chose to fight zamasu who can be handled by Vegeta, then jobs to him.

MUH PRIDE SAIYANS is retarded when it involve trunks's future
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>>157497043
Black arc in the manga has been a total dissapointment on every level.
-Zamasu and Black are poorly fleshed out and their motivations are so poorly established their actions come out as plot-convenient developments.
-Even from the start when Zamasu becomes black, something the anime used as an established moment of his character with tons of buildup just happens casually after watching some youtube video.
-Black and Zamasu are exactly alike in the manga having no nuances that set them apart from one another, even though going through entirely different experiences would result in that.
-Trunks is sidelined and does nothing for the entirety of the arc, even though it would be extremely easy to make him relevant (SSJG ritual, RoSAT).
-No actual compelling moments between him and vegeta either, the anime had a "passing the torch" subplot which just helped highlight how shitty Goku is as a parent
-No Goku vs Black fight
-No Goku suffering first-hand the consequences of his shitty decisions.
-No tag team dynamics between Black and Zamasu
-No actual use of the plot point that Goku's body was stolen other than the zenkai, no black smugly using Goku's techniques against him.
-No Goku+Vegeta team up vs F. Zamasu.

Even from a conceptual standpoint the black arc is underwhelming, and the execution has been supbar in these latest chapters to boot.
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>>157494485
Who is he?
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>>157498114
>I also liked that despite killing the gods and especially Gowasu, he never gloated about that,
Except he made a joke about killing Gowasu for a 3rd time.
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>>157498146
I was agreeing with you.
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Hey, my boy. I just met a girl you might like.
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>>157497600
You realize there's a difference between keeping a secret and not just saying "HEY I CAN DO THIS THING IN SUPER SAIYAN BLUE BUT IT'LL FUCKING DESTROY ME"

If YOU re-read the chapter, Vegeta notes to himself that holding the power within his body could break him at a moment's notice. He probably knew that sealing SSB's power inside him was a possibility, but only Goku would take the risk, while Vegeta learned to switch between SSG and SSB.

And Black wasn't much more powerful than Vegeta, Vegeta's stamina was finally starting to wear out before he trained. And Goku didn't really job to Zamasu, he only failed to seal him. Zamasu was weaker than Trunks.
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>>157498158
Do you use your mind?

Goku can sense Beerus's ki thanks to his god ki, same shit for shin and the old kai.
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>>157498228
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The last manga chapter was pretty ok tho, Trunks being able to heal was actually hinted through the chapters and etc. Just kind of weird that they have to be a disciple to be able to use this ability and loose it when they advance. Sounds kind of stupid.
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>>157494869
>>157493346
How can someone be so perfect?
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>>157497462
>Trunks completely sidelined, his greatest role yet is to be a shittier Namek dende.
Better than him being the lord of out of no where, never explained asspulss.
>Goku completely outdoing Vegeta AGAIN, despite Vegeta's year long training.
Goku outdoes both vegeta and trunks at the same time in the anime while doing nothing but screaming louder. Atleast in the manga his improved performance actually makes sense.
>Black is boring really, he was much more fun to watch in the anime. His sophistication, went along great with his character as somehow whi saw himself above everyone else. He gets pissed off at someone like every other second in the manga.
It's almost like he's megalomaniac and not a mary sue. When you have the villain run circles around the heroes it makes the asspulls all the more bullshit.
>Black technically never lost a single fight in the anime, that was really interesting, he would come up with something, b ut he would win or draw, in the manga he's a giant jobber.
That's bad writing. Having black just be as strong as he needs to be is nonsensical
>Merged Zamasu was just like a jrpg God should be
This is not a jrpg
>his susanoo like bird
No. When you're comparing to post shippuden naruto your taste is shit.
>His half deformed body, while ugly, also clearly showed his dichotomy between his immortal and mortal half.
This was interesting.
>I actually liked SSRage, I understand people not liking it, but someone other than Goku and Gohan unlocking something new was a fresh change of pace.
Had SSR made a lick of sense I'd like it to, but it doesn't. It's a blatant asspull that was so bad they didn't even attempt to pull an explaination out with it.

Super as a whole is bad, but the anime is everything wrong with super cranked up to 11.
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>>157498169
You forgot
-Merged Zamasu has been ruined and his moveset is generic instead of feeling godly
>Merged Zamasu having a time-limit for a completely nonsensical reason
-There's zero tension because all the Earthlings are dead
-No ki-sword
-Vegito did even less than in the anime
-Last chapter was how not to pacing 101
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Man this thread was fun. Why did all these manga fags have to come and start arguing about Zamasu and old shit no one cares about anymore?
>>
How do I become intelligent like Hit?
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>>157498238
>If YOU re-read the chapter, Vegeta notes to himself that holding the power within his body could break him at a moment's notice

Still, Goku keep it for himself.

>And Black wasn't much more powerful than Vegeta
Lies, even with a senzu beans, black fucked his SSB with SSJ alone
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>>157498048
>you will never help rebuild U10 after it gets destroyed by impregnating loli angel over and over again
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>>157498246
Can you post that chapter?
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>>157498300
If people are still discussing it, it's because they care.
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>>157498293
>Had SSR made a lick of sense I'd like it to, but it doesn't. It's a blatant asspull that was so bad they didn't even attempt to pull an explaination out with it.
Basically they stole Toyotaro's mastered SS2 design from the manga because anime Trunks' SS2 design is just fucking Super Saiyan with sparks.
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>>157498295
>his moveset is generic instead of feeling godly
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>>157497069
>implying puar is male
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>>157498347
Check in kissmanga.
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>>157498293
>Black being strong is ''nonsensical'' and ''bad writing''
>LOL IT LOOKS LIKE NARUTO SO POINT INVALID LOL XD

These are the people who come here to shit on Super
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>>157498186
In the anime too? I remember that happened in the manga, but in the anime he barely said anything to him.
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>>157498308
Hit isn't smart though.
>made the donut but didn't confirm the kill
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>>157498367
No its because you guys clearly have autism and are putting way too much thought into a low level form of entertainment.
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>>157498169
>-Zamasu and Black are poorly fleshed out and their motivations are so poorly established their actions come out as plot-convenient developments.
Opinion.
>-Even from the start when Zamasu becomes black, something the anime used as an established moment of his character with tons of buildup just happens casually after watching some youtube video.
What tons of buildup are you referring to?
>-Black and Zamasu are exactly alike in the manga having no nuances that set them apart from one another, even though going through entirely different experiences would result in that.
You're entirely full of shit and you know it.
>-Trunks is sidelined and does nothing for the entirety of the arc, even though it would be extremely easy to make him relevant (SSJG ritual, RoSAT).
I can agree with this, but it's better than an asspull Mary Sue ending.
>-No actual compelling moments between him and vegeta either, the anime had a "passing the torch" subplot which just helped highlight how shitty Goku is as a parent
No it didn't.
>-No Goku vs Black fight
Who cares, that fight was shit anyway.
>-No Goku suffering first-hand the consequences of his shitty decisions.
They're all suffering because Goku's stupid ass let Vegeta take Black knowing full-well that Black was stronger.
>-No tag team dynamics between Black and Zamasu
Who gives a fuck, literally all they did was shoot two energy balls that swirled around each other and then joined into one big ball. Ooh, such tag team dynamics.
>-No actual use of the plot point that Goku's body was stolen other than the zenkai, no black smugly using Goku's techniques against him.
>other than the zenkai
Which is arguably the most important, retard.
>-No Goku+Vegeta team up vs F. Zamasu.
Who the fuck cares? This didn't even make sense, he wouldn't be able to move.

Your taste is shit and you have no actual points. As expected of a Toeicuck.
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>>157498400
I mean the chapter where Goku senses Beerus.
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>>157498382
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>>157496052
>Beerus will never have sex with Shin for an entire chapter
Why can't Dragon Ball be a Seinen
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>>157493346
That's not even Ribrianne's final form!
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>>157498169
>>157498295
BUT MUH '''''''CONSISTENCY'''''''
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>>157498414
>In the anime too?
That's what I said didn't I?
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>>157496296

Where did Hitto-kun go?

also, jobgeta, defeating anyone, kek
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>>157498295
>-Merged Zamasu has been ruined and his moveset is generic instead of feeling godly
Yeah, I sure do miss him summoning the Winged Dragon of Ra.
>Merged Zamasu having a time-limit for a completely nonsensical reason
If you're too retarded to understand the reason, that's on you, Toeishill.
>-There's zero tension because all the Earthlings are dead
As they fucking should be. The Resistance makes no sense.
>-No ki-sword
Who cares?
>-Vegito did even less than in the anime
That was pretty gay I admit.
>-Last chapter was how not to pacing 101
I bet you ate up the latest episode, didn't you?
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>>157497069
I RECOGNIZE THAT BULGE
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>>157498317
>Lies, even with a senzu beans, black fucked his SSB with SSJ alone
? That was literally SSB being weaker with every second, while Black was starting to achieve Rose.
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Why is kale acting horny and desperate like some high school girl?
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>>157498444
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>>157498431
Not him but your post is full of subjective opinion, not really any argument.
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>>157498183
MasakoX, the voice of Goku in Dragon Ball Z Abridged, and a real cringeworthy cuck.
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>>157498544
>>157498544
>>157498544
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>>157498431
>>157498506
>both counter-arguments are literally ''lol who cares'' and ''no u''

Toyopedros, everyone
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>>157498494
three for three, veggie
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>>157498317
>Still, Goku keep it for himself.
Again, is english your second language? You sound like a god damn pedro.
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>>157495110
>>157495110

>they have a giant fucking mecha on their team
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>Ruining a perfectly good character design by making her fat
Toei must be stopped.
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>>157498545
>Not him but your post is full of subjective opinion
So is the person he's replying to.
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>>157498515
Except that Vegeta used a senzu beans, but black still fucked him with SSJ.

No excuse here
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>>157498543
>Toei tracing a 20 years old game

How desperate do you have to be?
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>>157498447
>Why can't Dragon Ball be a Seinen
Damn it anon, I want it to happen too.
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>>157493346
Home come no other fighter in any universe try to use divine ki?
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>>157498183
Some idiot. no one really knows
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>>157498545
The same as the post I was responding to.
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>>157498545
I've never heard of opinions that aren't subjective.
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>>157498647

Their whizes are even dumber than Whiz

Case in point: u10's loli whiz
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>>157498610
He show things that are not in the manga, that's all.

While the other just reply "it's shit, it's shit, it's shit", he talk like if his opinion matter more than anyone else's opinion
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>>157498183

the pioneer of abridged anime series
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>>157498614
Vegeta didn't use a senzu bean before Zamasu got up and started beating him as SS2 you god damn spic.

Reread the chapters pedro.
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>>157498293
>Better than him being the lord of out of no where, never explained asspulss.

Which toyble could've avoided by getting him to use the SSJG ritual, or a zenkai if he hadn't conveniently written it out for the heroes, or the RoSAT or the Kai unlock.
You get the point.
>Goku outdoes both vegeta and trunks at the same time in the anime while doing nothing but screaming louder. Atleast in the manga his improved performance actually makes sense.
Double standards, Goku only outdoes Trunks and Vegeta after putting unprecedented amounts of effort in his one attack, ending up breaking his arms whereas the manga's shit portrayal does the generic "I hope my body can take it" cliche
>It's almost like he's megalomaniac and not a mary sue. When you have the villain run circles around the heroes it makes the asspulls all the more bullshit.
Sorry retard but Black and Zamasu had clear flaws as characters, the anime's portrayal of their god-complex was spot on, stop using terms like mary sue if you want ot be taken seriously.
>That's bad writing. Having black just be as strong as he needs to be is nonsensical
That's not an argument, just the fac that a character is strong isn't automatically black's ability to improve was established in the anime long before it became relevant.
>This is not a jrpg
IT totally is though, Trunks is the healer, Vegeta is the Tank and Goku is the MC, the manga even has class-exclusive techniques too!.
>Had SSR made a lick of sense I'd like it to, but it doesn't. It's a blatant asspull that was so bad they didn't even attempt to pull an explaination out with it.
Rage powerups are the quintessential DB cliche, complaining about their existence is retarded.
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>>157498609
>Toei

It's a Toriyama design you fucking retard
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>>157498581
>arguments
>against opinions
Why are you retards so obsessed with attempting to prove something that's impossible to prove? Get a fucking hobby or something.
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Is Krillin cool?
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>>157498647
Because under normal circumstances no one has access to an angel but the GoD of that universe and thus no room of god ki to train in.
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>>157498070
>he sort of looks like ben affleck
Anon, are you fucking kidding me?
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>>157498293
How is being more useless than Dende was in Namek, or hell, even the Queen of uselessness, Sakurai in Naruto did way more. He is just standing at the sides with Mai. A fucking senzu bean does his job better. Yes, i would definitely like other characters getting more boosts to get more important roles than them being pointless and useless because it's not "consistent" enough for some people.
Vegeta and Trunks were just out of breath after the clash, and this was after Vegeta had fought Black alone. Goku broke both his hands completely, something never done before to win one clash.
>It's almost like he's megalomaniac and not a mary sue. When you have the villain run circles around the heroes it makes the asspulls all the more bullshit.
How is being yet another megalomaniac better than anime black? Black made up plans, it was clear, he knew what he was doing, so he succeeded. Why should he not run circles around the heroes? He's the antagonist, he needs to have a character, not just be "consistent", not to mention, being a megalomaniac doesn't mean he can't be written well.
>That's bad writing. Having black just be as strong as he needs to be is nonsensical
Why is that bad writing? He had Goku's body, but powered up by kaoishin soul. It made sense for him to be stronger, he wasn't as strong as he needed to be, Vegeta beat him up, and that meant something because of how invincible he seemed before. After that he got angry and got a power up, just like saiyans had always gotten before for their benefits, t his time against them, but it didn't really help him Michael as he only used it to buy time.
>This is not a jrpg
No, but it looked and was very cool.
>No. When you're comparing to post shippuden naruto your taste is shit.
I'm talking about cool designs, i don't care about Naruto.
Trunks having power are equal ass pulls, why didn't Gohan get the ritual done?
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>>157498492
Would need evidence.
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His plan is to make a porn video?

What would Zamasu say?
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Why did Gowasu turn out to be such a joke? Not even a Blackfag but I'm glad he killed him. Gowasu is such a fucking retard it hurts
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M A D

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>>157499386
You are just a hater, gowasu is the biggest godtuber and he is just making what he thinks its fun
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>>157499386
>another troll hating on Gowasu

He makes quality content and never screams at the camera like an idiot for views and asks for donations, he's the most honest godtuber there is, ok?
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>>157498755
>>157498405
>>157498368
Okay so from what I can gather the chief praise of the anime is "I think it looks cool and I like and or self insert as trunks or black." Which don't get me wrong, is fine and dandy. But that doesn't make it good. It just means you like something bad. The anime grossly mishandled the black arc starting the moment goku and vegeta went to the future. Black ass pulls SSR, immortal Zamasu, black, and trunks ass pull power so much that they might aswell not form change at all and just be as strong as they need to be whenever it calls for it, cause that's literally all that happens. Trunks asspulls new abilities to stay relevant in ways that are so blatantly forced that they literally don't explain them. We never found out what SSRage or how it works in the show and outside the show the writers give so little of a damn the official explanation is "he got really really mad.". LSSj SSG got more development in the movies they were introduced in than SSRage did in multiple episodes of existence. It's the most poorly written form in the history of the show, which is saying something. Black gets as strong as he needs to be because goku's body lmao WHILE FIGHTING GOKU. You can't say "I get benefits from having goku's body that goku doesn't even have" with a straight face. that's idiotic. It's okay that you guys like bad writing, one of you apparently even like post SRA naruto which just shows how unqualified you are to critique anything. Nothing wrong with having shit taste, I like my fair share of bad shows too, but trying to pass them off as good just because you like them is just silly.

Also if you guys think this is some "manga vs anime" wankery don't be stupid. This isn't /v/, there's no point in such a stupid debate. whether the manga or anime is better is subjective. however the manga clearly handled the black arc in a way that made sense unlike it's counter part which was sloppy and made no sense.
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>>157498036
So how strong is he, relative to kami?
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>>157493346
So smugpup gonnabe the MVP of U9?
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>>157500005
Weaker
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>>157493583
So why is popo blue in kai, but black in super? Did the nips not give a fuck anymore?
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>>157493810
I'm sad Toriyama doesn't draw muscles anymore, we could have had hot sweaty saiyan musclegirls.
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>>157500436
I think he's only blue in 4Kids version of Kai
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