Koe no Katachi

>>157383482
No, considering the movie is 2 hours long that's roughly the equivalent of 6 episodes. I couldn't imagine it being twice as long and this is coming from someone who read the manga and knows what they cut. Probably 8 episodes max is fine.

I actually imagine the initial storyboard to be longer and they had to trim some things to bring the run time down to 2 hours. A director's cut version for this would've been great

>>157383699
hmm, I think I should've read the first.

>>157383482
they rushed and removed so much...it felt incomplete for some reason

>>157383841
What did they remove that made it seem that way?

I'm glad they took out the film crap

>>157383699
The cut every single character arc from every single side character.

The climax of the movie banks entirely on said character relationships which is never explored in the film, thus the emotional impact is non existant, and all the drama feels forced and unjustified.

The movie format absolutely ruined all the subtile, detailed build up in the manga.

how are the TT&edited and UD subs?

the wait is killing me

>>157388448
Personally I'm waiting considering they're just edits of the google translate arab subs.

>>157388727
It's getting released in the UK streaming on Monday on a billion platforms. Surely someone will rip it from there?

>>157388853

HS already confirmed that they'll be ripping it from there. It's just a matter of waiting.

>>157389034
I might just pay for it. I wouldn't mind seeing more anime films getting released that way in future so supporting it might not be such a bad idea.

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>>157383482
>Mfw seeing Ishida cry at the end

Fuck man that really got me. I haven't teared up a bit to something for a long time.

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What was her deal?

It's been some time since I've read the manga, did they change her character? Did they make her less of an intentional cunt and more of an unware cunt?

>>157389648
she seemed to be unaware of how much of a cunt she truly was. Her character also gets no meaningful resolution. She seems to have 180'd by the end thanks to scenes we dont see

I dont even know why the bishounen character was in the narrative at all. I'll assume he did something in the manga.

>>157389887
He's just kinda solidified as really creepy and punches the MC at some point for some reason I can't actually remember

>>157383841
In the last portion it feel a bit rushed but for the most part, they removed things that just extend and doesnt add too much and they adapted the situations and between them very nice.
The funeral scene I've found much intimate and personal and cut for the good thing, the movie subplot.

sssuuubbbbssss

>>157385932
Isn't the whole story about making friends no matter who you are even if you can't speak? That's what I thought anyways. Although it does tackle the theme of bullying and what it can lead to.

>>157392249
>>157389887
He punches Ishida because he learned that he was the one who bullied Shoko and Ishida said it was okay to punch him. They cut out the punch scene unfortunately. He used to be bullied so thats why he hates bullies and I'm guessing that he knew Ishida was bullied so he asked to be friends with him.

>>157383699
24 episode anime with the first 4 covering the one shot. Then anime original ending fixing everything about volume 7. There you go, I made AOTY.

>>157393476
it tackles it more deeply and you get to know characters more in the manga, it felt like the movie was way too rushed like it had somewhere to go, like catch a fucking train

>>157383482
Yes. When watching, I really haven't noticed at first how much I assumed due my reading the manga. Some things seem really rushed in the movie.

>tfw just watched it
FUCK FUCK I want a qt deaf gf now.
>mfw shoko saying "i'b doinbg maiy besd"
FUCKING KILL ME, the seiyuu must be a godess

>>157393536
They didn't just cut the punch scene.
They literally could not show it because it makes no sense without all his character build up.
The same goes for every single character in the movie to be honest.

>>157383841
now you got the taste of this trash studio.

How good are [Mashiro] subs?

>>157398370
I want to know this as well. I also want to know why the damn thing won't download.

>>157383482
NO stop even thinking that. It wouldn't have been a fraction as good.

>>157395646
made me want to cry

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>>157398659
>why the damn thing won't download.

>>157398941
But it's 150kb only. How shitty is your internet speed that it'd take so much time to share it? I can share it with all those leechers in 1 second, literally, and I'd still have bandwidth left. Just fucking give me the file already and everyone else will have it in no time.

>>157383482
It would've been better if it was a single episode based on the oneshot, the manga was a mistake

>>157398370
SEED THIS YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!

Can someone link the source for the [Mashiro] subs. What's their page?

>>157399119
Maybe it's an Australian.

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What was she saying in this scene?

>>157399221

Found this is it legit? >>157394151

>>157395646
Damn, all those scenes with Shouko trying to talk really got me.

>>157385895
>Nishimiya mom's husband leaving her after they find out Shouko is deaf and he blames it on her genes plus some other scenes of her
>Shouko in bed
>Yuzuru taking a photo of their grandmother
>Ueno in Ishida's hospital room
>Teacher got less screen time and the scene where Shouko and Ishida confront him again was also cut because it was part of the movie subplot
>Ishida's monologue about what being friends means was changed as well (I think, don't remember much?)

>>157399379
https://nyaa.si/view/924556

>>157399399
It was very cute when Ueno signed baka

>>157399429
Fuck off jaka
>>157399379
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/view/924245

>>157399429
>>157399499

Ya i know there are torrents im just saying that if everyone is bitching about seeds just download that.

>>157383482
Literally every anime movie would've been better as a ~12 ep series. Except for Sinkai, his have no plots to begin with.

>>157383482
if this shit remained an one-shot, it would have been a fucking masterpiece.

Its been quite a while I've read it but Kyoani made Kawai a saint or what? she and her fuckboy.

>>157383482
No because television is inherently inferior to cinema and the artistic vision of the auteur is diluted.

>>157399661
What is wrong with you?

>>157399799
Auteur theory has no place in animation, honestly. Film is still better for other reasons.

>>157399775
she act's like it but she's worst girl by far
atleast sexonlegs is upfront with being a bitch

>>157399799
>>157399999

I always hated these blanket statements. Calling anything always better than something else is pretty fucking stupid. Everything depends on the context of the situation and how its being compared.

>>157400213
"almost always" better then, if that works for you

>>157399799
Most people grow out of idiotic "medium hierarchies" after middle school.

>>157399999
Quints of truth.
Film schools rejects fuck off from my anime.

>>157400270
"Cinema creates memories, television creates oblivion"
"When you go to the movies, you have to look up. When you watch TV, you look down."

>>157400396
I watch both on my PC.

>>157400396
Nice quote, was it from 1995?

>>157400396
Maybe it sounded more clever in 1960.

People are really using those shitty subs when HS has already stated they'll be ripping this from itunes UK on the 22th (literally just a 3 day).

>>157400651
>HS
made me reply/8

I knew what it was before watching it and it still made me feel absolutely miserable. Kids are such fucking assholes.

>>157383482
I wish the drama wasn't as forced and unrealistic. Like fuck, MC should've just said fuck off to that black haired psychopath girl from the start. Also the suicide part was just stupid too and the ending was underwhelming.

Now that the dust has settled, was it really a flop?

>>157400651
The new subs by 35mm are perfectly fine.

>>157383482
This movie is a complete disaster. Worst editing I've seen in a long time.
Keeping most of the major characters and events but removing 95% of the characterizations, arcs and interactions made all the drama fall flat and the actions seem nonsensical, as the movie rushes from a key scene to another with none of them having any weight whatsoever. Why even keep grandma's death, red haired guy and Kawai just to half ass them in such a way? And even the hated movie subplot was important to the narrative, making tension between the characters build up until they snapped. Here drama ensues out of nowhere for no reason.
I've never been the greatest fan of Yamada but I didn't think she could be responsable for a movie so poorly put together.

>>157400735
MC became a cuck after he bullied Nishimiya. He couldn't tell anyone off because of muh "act nice to everyone" despite them being unreasonable cunts.

>>157401015
Is the manga better? I feel like I got rused into watching this

>>157401104
What do you think?

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>>157400801
Just wait for the supposed Oscar.

>>157401173
It doesn't air on burgerland tho

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Why is nobody talking about this scene?
the fuck happened here, did he confess his love?

>>157401015
And I forgot two of the worst offenders: how they kept the confession scene, already a mistake in the manga but even worse here, since Shoujo jumps between half a dozens emotions states in the span of minutes, and how they kept the 2 bullies saving Hishida from drowning, but without foreshadowing it and justifing their presence and then barely even addressing the thing after the fact.
Who the hell handled the script?

>>157401274
Who fucking knows, rather early in the movie she tried to confess herself (hurr durr moon) and then it's completely forgotten for the rest of the movie. It's a fucking mess.

>>157401222
That rule doesn't apply to the animation category

>>157401274
koi fish appeared in this scene so I assumed there was a confession

Any 1080p Rips on mega ? Torrents take too long

>>157401373
No.

>>157401104
I didn't appreciate the direction it took after the first volumes, but at least the execution was good, and the characterizations solid.
The movie ruined the good scenes and interactions it had while fixing nothing.

>>157401274
Shits rage inducing kek

>>157400967
Are they better than Mashiro?

>>157401545
I haven't watched it with Mashiro subs but from what I can tell from its .ass file, the Mashiro subs are another edit of the TT subs (the Aegisub Project Garbage shows that the TT release was used as a base and the dialogue does seem stiff still). So I'm guessing 35mm is most definitely better since it's a proper original translation.

>>157399290
Read the manga.

tl note: koi means love

>>157399419
You forgot the part where Mashiba punched Ishida

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This shit could have been hella good, what a plot, pure gold. but the execution was clearly rushed

what a weak movie. really. the animation is great. but the story is bland and sappy.

>>157401436
>I didn't appreciate the direction it took after the first volumes
why?

>>157399419
>Nishimiya mom's husband leaving her after they find out Shouko is deaf and he blames it on her genes plus some other scenes of her
thank god, this was forced as fuck.

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>>157399419
>>157385895
how could you forget this scene?

Pacing was way awkward. I kinda liked that they shaved off the whole movie making subplot since I thought it was way out of place, but at the same time you do lose a fair bit of characterization because of it.

But then I found the manga pretty damn awkward too.

In the end, the oneshot is still what I enjoyed the most.

>>157402251
But that misunderstanding was lame.

I actually think they made broccoli head much more likable in the movie though. He's sort of an annoying snot in the manga but in the movie he was brotier

>>157402251
thank god, this was forced as fuck [2]

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>>157401813
>>157399419
and this scene
seriously, they might as well remove mashiba completely in the movie

>>157402196
but it's not
that scene explained very well why grandma care so much for shoko's mom and why shoko's mom is such a hardass for her daughters

>>157402395
Yeah, but it's still forced because it makes the father and grandparents look like evil villains just for the sake of drama. I know that in real life there are parents who abandon their children for the most idiotic reasons, but the way it was done was too contrived:
>I refuse to accept this disgusting and defective garbage as a daughter. Goodbye.
If he had just run away it would be more acceptable. But, hey, we need to make the reader feel sorry for the mother and the grandmother, so let's make the father a monster.

>>157402373
Broccoli's lying pant nature is totally overshadowed by his hero worship nature. It is much easier to be written around, I think.

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>>157400735
the author handled it pretty well in the manga
soooo much stuff got cut out in the movie

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>>157402395
Now I am also reminded of the scene when Nishimiya's mother tells them not to use sign language during dinner because it's unsightly.
Just really wish they animated all her scenes.

>>157402622
Nah, in the manga is forced and unrealistic too.

An anime TV series would be great. Imagine anime newfags waiting weeks and weeks for the HEALING.

>>157402675
your life is forced and unrealistic

>>157388448
>>157389034
Editanon from yesterday here. Tfw spend 10 of the last 24 hours total cleaning up that script only to find out there are now like 7 other released and HS is ripping it soon. A-At least I learned how to use Aegisub?

>>157402714
Good practice for when you shitsub Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni for us.

>mfw bitchmom shares her VA with Yukari-sensei

>>157402395
>no bully hunting in the movie
>no BTFOing the jerk teacher in the movie
What's the point of Mashiba being in the movie anyway?

>>157403332
He really should have been cut entirely.

This whole movie looks like Hibike. An anime film looks the same as an tv show does. Disappointed.

>>157403546
What's it like being blind?

>>157403609
What's it like being retarded?

>>157399419
>number 2 was cut
What, really? You mean the one following the daydream? That was the most memorable part. That panel from the manga gets posted everywhere.

Okay, seems like [TT&Edited] and [UD] subs just came out of the cartel. Which one would you guys prefer?

>>157403917
Just get those
http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/6985555

I used them and they were fine.

Anyone got the better .ass subs?

>>157403940
How "fine" are they compared to the others.

>>157404114
How is anyone supposed to tell?
Nobody watches the same movie several times just to compare subtitles.

>>157404582
Or maybe just look at a few sentences and compare them?

>>157402564
the author already made ueno a psychopathic bitch and kawai a backstabbing bastard, why stop halfway. it shaped up the mom's character
and it also sacrificed the impact of grandma's death in the movie

>Every episode probably would end with cliffhanger with Ueno or Kawai or Nishimom.

>>157403841
They really did cut it out.

I feel like they skipped a bit too much.

I think the movie is a decent adaptation and condenses it well, because the manga did definitely drag a bit at times, but they skipped a lot of Shouko stuff, didn't they? Even her dream sequence.

I liked the ending better though.

>>157406089
Her dream is there but shortened. You can still see her being friends with Ueno and the rest of the class before waking up.

And I agree that movie ending was better, when he drops his hands from his ears and all the crowd noises start coming back in was a great scene.

>>157406224
I feel like it lost a lot of impact because it was shortened, but maybe that's just me.

I'm a little bummed they took out the group photo at the end too, I liked that.

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I'm glad they didn't cut the best character

>>157403546
Hibike looked like a film

>not waiting for HS

How much mom drama did they cut? Mom drama was my favorite part.

>>157406606
They cut Nishimiya's mom getting drunk with Ishida's mom.

>>157406777
Fuck that was what made the mom drama all worth it.

>>157406523
the brazillian bull

It was really a bad adaptation, the OP is good the rest not, if you guys really think that his was "good" is just because you're a hardcore kyoani fan

>>157383482

>mc bullies the fuck out of a girl until she changes schools
>grows up
>"woe is me i'm so bored i'm gonna kill myself bawwww"
>girl that he bullied endlessly sees him and is all in love with him and shit

Why the fuck did people like this trash? The MC doesn't have a single redeeming quality, and the heroine being all over him, let alone forgiving him, doesn't make any sense.

>>157407004
What if I think it's good but am not a hardcore Kyoani fan?

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>>157407000
Pedro is the only dad in the whole show that doesn't run away from his spawn.

Sure he might spend some time away, but he is just working to give a better life for his daughter and family.

He is also a great brother-in-law

>>157407019
because he was nice to her after he grew up

it might've worked IRL too if MC was a 9/10 and the girl was a forgiving person

>>157407004
I've not watched a lot of Koyani's works personally, but I think it was decent middleground as far as adaptations go. It did cut quite a bit, but the manga really did drag on too much as well.

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>>157407092
>Okaaa-saaan

>>157407039
Then you have objectively bad taste, or you haven't read the manga.

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>>157407092
I wonder if MC's sister has a Japanese cuck husband and Maria is the result of his cuck pregnancy fetish

Holy shit, kids are fucking cruel.
Glad I'll never have one.

>>157407323
I don't think so, if that was a thing then the husband would be taking care of Maria to truly heighten the cuck aspect of the releationship

Literally crying lads. What's with the garbage subs though? Should have waited for the Monday rip.

Is Your Name just as tear jerking?

>>157407380
>implying this would happen irl

lel, I got bullied hard in middle school but after that no one gave a shit after I went to HS

>>157407474
yeah, cause grade school kids are the same as high school ones

>>157407219
What if I have good taste and have read the manga many times?

>>157407474
Yeah but japanese schools is all about MUH RUMORS

>>157407474
I bullied some kid in HS and he's basically an outcast NEET sitting in his room in isolation playing vidya and watching anime all day now

Only good things has happened to me so this karma crap is bs

>>157407019
You either didnt watch it or watched it with shitty subs

>>157407666
But how did you bully yourself?

>>157407666
You're a faggot

>>157407791
Shit happens when you're an insecure delusional teen that hasn't grown up yet

I apologized to him at graduation for being a cunt at least.

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>>157383482
what was she wearing?

>>157407890
I can't disagree with this.

Good on you for apologizing.

>>157407892
SEX

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>>157407892

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I want ishida's mom to comfort nishimiya's mom sexually.

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>>157383482
Just finished watching. I agree that it felt pretty rushed at points. I think the biggest problem was the very low emotional involvement I had in most of the supporting characters. It's a mistake new writers often make, so I'm not sure what happened here. The obvious solution would've been to cut 2-3 of the characters and take more time to focus on the rest.

I really liked pic related though. Kinda have a soft spot for girls like her.

>>157407892
>SIS PUT SOME CLOTHES ON

>>157408421
What kind of girl is she?

>ywn find true love

Fuck

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It physically pains me that they didn't include this scene despite it being there and important too in the source.

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>>157408421
Speaking of emotional involvement, did I miss something with this girl? Why am I supposed to feel anything but disgust towards her? She was a complete backstabbing cunt literally from start to finish and her victim mentality was fucking infuriating. Zero personal responsibility. And in the end they just include her in his circle of friends. What the hell.

>>157408473
a child

>>157408623
manga explained her backstory.

>>157408473
Timid, small, introverted, doesn't like to socialize, tomboyish looks, simple character design that doesn't stand out, likes to be by herself and invest time in her hobbies, hard to approach.

>>157408685
I figured as much. Cut her part from the movie and use the time to develop everyone else a little more.

>>157408754
I am literally her in all forms except physical.

>>157408820
pls be in London

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>>157408623
This movie has a lot of this.
Who the fuck even is this guy? Why is he there? fuck this movie just gets worse the more i think about it.

>>157408957
It's a classic case of the writers being too familiar with the source material. Subconsciously they think that the viewers will understand the character and intentions of the characters, because they themselves do. I'd almost say they didn't even once give the script to someone who doesn't know the source manga.

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>>157408820
>>157408754
Forgot to add very low self-esteem, especially in regards of her femininity.

>>157399999
kek

>>157407323
Pedro even helped Ishida from his sister's ex when that his brother stole ishida's shoes and beat him up

>>157409021
Is it better rip? wounraw has a black line is bother me

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Just remembered what this reminded me of. Can't say I wouldn't have preferred a similar ending for this movie.

>>157409381
Post screenshot of the black line? I'm currently downloading woun, if it's a nuisance I'd delete it

>>157409381
anime land and reinforce cut out black bars but they're both 1036p
and yes, they're superior

>>157409451
>>157407199

>>157409381
Go with that or ReinForce's.

>>157409451
Wounraw's botched the crop, so there are slight black bars above and under the image.

>>157409506
Why are you guys using that one? The 35mm sub that's 1080p on pantsu is better

>>157409630
I'm using the 35mm subs slapped onto Reinforce's raw.

>>157385932
>all the drama feels forced and unjustified.
So, just like the manga?

>>157409222
so you see her as someone you want to protect and take care of, lightly

>>157410206
Sure. And after a while tell her that I like her to see her adorable reaction.

>>157409966
No, the manga is quite realistic on how this kind of group dynamics work.

this manga hit close to home several times, personally.

>>157406777
Fucking why.

>>157402564
>but it's still forced because it makes the father and grandparents look like evil villains just for the sake of drama.
Sometimes, people are like that.

>>157409222
I want to take her close and kiss her deeply consent optional

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>>157411920
I wanna surprise her by hugging her from behind and holding her tight.

>>157412105
I want to tell her she should buy Sony mirrorless instead.

With all the improvement by making the character better especially Ueno (she becomes your average teenager), Kawai is still the shittiest character.
I wonder how shit she is in manga since I don't read the manga.

>>157412275
She's a fucking spawn of hell in the manga, but it's okay since she gets btfo'd by the pretty boy.

>>157412105
You should start having a kid.

Subs uploaded with 1080p by Chitoge on nyaa pantsu = absolute garbage. Commie-like editing, no honorifics, western name order and totally simplified dialogues.

>>157383482

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>>157412425
Why's that?

>>157412499
Then you'll have your own Yuzuru to hug and grow with!

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It is safe to got watch this with a normalfag girl?

>>157400651
HS / CR and good subs. Dude wake up.
[Mashiro] subs are actually decent enough. Couldn't ask for more. Not localized, faithful to the source, honorifics and proper name order.

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>>157412449
So, are there ANY good subs out yet then?

>>157412629
Yes. Should've watch the Tamako Love Story instead though.

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>>157412623
Life isn't that simple.

Anyone know where I can get [35mm] subs as a separate file?

>>157409630
Garbage, unless you love commie editing and 100% burgrization.

>>157410994
Nah, it's not so black and white like KnK makes it seem. The point is that the story does not try to delve into why he acts like this. He is bad because the story needs him to be. The end. It's cheap.

>>157412745
Life is a palate of flavors, bitter and sweet.

>>157412825
Do you really want cartel subs that badly?

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>>157412976
That it is for sure.

>>157412825
https://my.mixtape.moe/wrmoej.ass
I just ripped them and attached the fonts to it. They haven't been changed otherwise, so you might need to retime them slightly for a different raw.

>>157410523
>the manga is quite realistic

I really don't understand who thinks this manga is realistic. Real life is complex, does not fit into simple melodramatic archtypes like the pure victim, the bad bully, the ignorant teacher, the evil father.

>>157412856
Explain. I watched them and it was fine. Only annoying thing was that the names were in western format. Everything else was fine. It's the best subs available till the official sub release.

>>157401739
No, it's not original translation. Just heavily edited and localized previous subs. Most likely a Cartel's work.

>>157413125
All honorifics were taken off, many dialogues are totally off (sometimes just way too oversimplified), many things are lost in translation. Sorry, but I can't call it good subs, or even watchable.

So, 35mm or Mashiro?

>>157413247
Kobeni

>>157413247
If you read the manga, raw, if you haven't, wait for something better.

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>>157413272
>https://my.mixtape.moe/wrmoej.ass

>>157413247
Definitely mashiro. You can compare it in one of text comparing tools. 35mm = simplifed, westernized, without honorifics and any TS Mashiro, so the choice is obvious.

>>157413322
But isn't Mashiro just an edited TT sub?

>>157413272
>not Benio

>>157413353
Just like 35mm.
OK, let's put it in different words.
If you like commie way of subbing, take 35mm, if you don't like commie way of subbing take mashiro or wait for better option.

Should I watch it with 35mm subs and then rewatch it on Monday with official subs or just wait until Monday?

>>157413438
>>157413247
Kill yourself.

>>157413438
Raw then rewatch or just wait. Better to just take in the movie than to watch bad subs

Fuck it I'm waiting. This is going to be the worst weekend of the year.

>>157383482
Remember thaifag? I do.

>>157400651
The Mashiro subs >>157411796 are actually good and there are plenty of nice looking raws out there.

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>>157413604
Jesus, just get any subs. Why do you care so much? If it's that important to you, go learn Japanese.

>>157413702
You are the worst kind of pleb.

It ends the same as in the manga? cause that end was shit.

>>157383482
It seemed just fine to watch when you've read the manga.

>>157413702
are you retarded?

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>>157413748
>>157413847
I'm saying if you actually care about translation quality that much, it might be a good idea to just learn the language instead. I never understood how some people can spend hours debating translations when they haven't even made any attempt at learning the language themselves.

Honestly, most conversations in modern anime aren't all that hard to follow, this movie is no exception, save for some scenes.

>>157400735
The drama came off as extremely realistic actually, bar a couple very convenient meetings. Maybe you have autism.

>>157407199
she fucks him?!

>>157413432
>Just like 35mm
Actually they're an original translation.

>>157414015
most of people who are debating about translation actually know the Japanese pretty well (including me). I know English very well (at least if it comes to understanding) and I'm still watching English movies with English subs. Same goes to anime. I'm watching it with English subs, because it's my final check to my understanding. Subs like 35mm are awful exactly because of this. I don't know any source for Japanese subs, so...

>>157414224
Sauce. And even if it's an original translation, it doesn't meant that it's any good (which I confirmed to myself when I was checking the text file)

Good movie. One of the few cases where the adaption is leaps better than the source.

>>157414293
>Sauce
Their description on the torrent: https://nyaa.si/view/924538

>CTRL+F Yuzuru
>2 results
WHAT THE FUCK
She was so fucking cute and I really can't accept that this is all I get of her. Spinoff or something, please...

>>157413040
People who have had very similar life experiences, with scenarios that play out just like they have in my real life? A lot of It felt realistic to me

>>157414374
Cartel site, cartel subs. Commie did many original translations in the past too and we all know this shit.

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>>157414426
Agree desu. Don't really have anything to add.

>>157414229
I don't know, man. I've been in those threads, and most of the time I don't get that feeling. People just like to complain. Also, you really shouldn't watch movies with subtitles thinking it'll help you learn the language.

This could of been the greatest love story ever told

>>157414028
Her daughter does

Do we have an active link for the movie?

>>157414582
>Also, you really shouldn't watch movies with subtitles thinking it'll help you learn the language.
WAT. Where did I say something like this? Seriously, I hate overthinking.
But in the other side, except grammar (which I learnt from great Satou Eriko's book), I learnt Japanese almost only by reading raw manga with dictionary in hand and repeating vocabulary kanji everyday.

>>157414761
https://anidex.info/?page=torrent&id=44689

>>157414447
Not an argument

>>157414840
Fair enough. I personally prefer clearly separating things that have to do with studying from things I do to relax/enjoy, but I guess whatever works.

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Who UENO here

>>157414995
Read the thread.

>>157415073
That bitch in particular and Kawai can go choke on a dick and die.

>>157415074
No, fuck off with your tracker politics. The whole point of having multiple sites is that shit can be uploaded on all of them.

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>>157415134
I wish she'd choke on my dick

New release from [TjardoSubs], whoever they are, using [Mashiro] subtitles. Worth it?
https://nyaa.si/view/924702

>>157415205
A polished turd is still a turd, just wait for decent subs in the next days.

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>going through all this bullshit when you can just wait a couple of days and watch the movie in the same quality with objectively better subs
i wouldn't be surprised if you guys were the same people that watched shitty releases of kimi no nawa just because you "couldn't wait"

>>157400967
Got a link?

>>157415570
lurk more

>>157415537
Jokes on you, I'm wating for KnK's better subs and I indeed watched the KnnW leak.

>>157414650
Does anybody else think they should of did a movie only ending and made it all about a love story

>>157414447
What do you mean by "cartel"? Never heard that term in reference to anime before, could you elaborate?

>>157415705
Please, don't.

>>157415608
What a constructive response. Don't ask questions, instead just wait around hoping for the answer to appear. Is that how you typically live your life?

Either way, fuck it I'll just try the modified [Mashiro] subbed version on Nyaa. Thanks for nothing.

>>157414015
People use subs for things in english too, like I do. Shitty english subs are still annoying for things in english. Stop being a moronic cuck, there's no excuse.

>>157415648
This. Shinkai didn't deserve any better.

>>157415753
If you know about nyaa then don't ask to be spoonfed.

>>157415705
Pasta:
cartel
A circlejerk group of fansubbers involved with various subgroups and related services. They have some strong ideas about how things should be done and who should be in charge and regularly weasel their way into relevant groups to push their ideas, or attempt to exclude those that don't. They go out of their way to push non-cartel sub groups out of the picture, and used nyaa as a way to blacklist competition and promote their own work.
Basically, a group of egotists that try to bully competition out of the scene so they can pretend their mediocre work is 'the best available' because it's the only thing available. When CR went legit, they hired up most of the talented members of the fansub scene (hence the death of fansubs). The cartel is made up mostly of the people who were so bad at what they do, CR wouldn't hire them.
Daiz
Cartel member and notorious shill. He has a script that notifies him whenever he's mentioned on /a/ so he can jump to the defense of whatever autistic crusade he's currently on, hence why mentioning him constantly became a meme. He was involved with pushing 10bit encoding, which was controversial at the time due to compatibility issues and being unfriendly to low-performance pcs, and is affiliated with fakku
Herkz
Another Cartel member and shill. He is a mentally ill tranny and a brony. Also an unironic feminist and Hillary supporter. His twitter is a salt mine.

Cartel groups:
Commie, DDY, FFF, Vivid, GJM (at least partially) and many of their copycats.

>>157415812
How on earth is asking for a link asking to be spoonfed? That is literally the most retarded thing I've heard in months.

>>157414440
I have gone through quite similar things, but I'm grown up now, my view of the world and society is not so simplistic as to think that I suffered bullying because I was a nice child and the others were assholes. This is putting emotion above reason, and I think that's why this manga is so famous, not because is realistic.

>>157383482
I think extending the movie would be better.
To show other scenes just to flesh out how shitty his "friends" really are.

>>157407092
>pushing racemixing in Japan
of-fucking-course they are. What a load of bullshit. Enjoy your multicult pozzed anime with forced diversity.

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I'm okay with kids doing stupid things for the sake of the plot but honestly.... I was kept saying myself:
>Kids don't act like this in real life

And then sometimes the teenagers started doing the same shit...

did this just recently get subbed? been seeing a lot of threads about this recently

>>157383482
How is this show in theaters everywhere except NA?

>>157416488
yes

or atleast with spanish subs since yesterday

Seeing the public reaction regarding this movie, is like this movie is the most emotional thing to ever and will happen to them. Are people this easy to emotionally manipulate? What is it with anime movie that people treat it like Interstellar? "Lel don´t think to hard about it, is the emotional feel moments that counts".

>>157416881
It's a much better film than Interstellar

>>157416881
anything slightly emotional will get the weebs all riled up. That's why your lie in april is so highly regarded despite being a piece of shit

>>157416881
Read the manga you fucking illiterate pleb

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Oh fuck catfight?

>>157417032
>Implying that the movie isn´t better than the manga
Even if the movie turned the side characters into fucking nobodies, is stil x10 better than the shit manga that was dragging the drama for another two volumes you little emo teen.

>>157402374
this

>>157417151
Shit, was that in the manga as well?
I didn't even notice it while watching the movie earlier today.

>>157417151
It's not a fight if she didn't hit back

Seems like a lot of people came out of the woodwork pretending the manga was even good. I haven't got round to watching the movie but there was so much god awful bullshit that needed to be trimmed from the manga anyway, especially towards the end with the bullshit movie subplot. Is the movie really that bad? It seems like it'd be worth watching for the fumbled deaf dialogue alone.

So did anyone actually watch it with the Mashiro subs?

>>157417803
It's a nice watch
But I reckon non manga readers would be a bit confused

>>157417870
I just did, nothing wrong with it

>Yuki Kaneko
>Tamako Market's Midori
>Koe no Katachi's Ueno

Bitch seiyuu

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>>157383482
>better of 12 episodes

This is how you spot stupid secondaries

Are there any other movies similar to this one? Somehow I really got into it.

>>157418652
Bullying in school? No
Romance? Yes

>>157418652
Similar in what way?

>>157416106
That doesn't matter, a lot of what happens in the movies, is true to life, things play out realistic besides all the unique story plot points of course.

>>157418771
Like dramatic/symbolism

>>157419073
Trying to come up with things, it's tough. Tamako Love Story comes to mind. Maybe Colorful, or Anthem of the Heart. None of those are close to the calibre of this movie, though.

>>157419336
well thanks for suggesting. I'll look em up.

>>157419073
Colorful is worth checking out.

>>157399799
Try watching Hyouka.

>>157414015
Don't bother. You're taking to people too lazy add stupid to actually learn moon, as who likely don't speak English at a native level, but think they know what determines a good Japanese to English translation.

>>157419852
Yeah maybe a good nap will help him cool off from his frustrations over TV anime

>>157420031
>Hyouka is boring
Might as well just come out and say "I have double digit IQ".

which version of this shit should i download

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Wait why are the Mashiro subs in Japanese? From reading the threads people compared them to the TT subs and generally they sounded like they were in English. Did I just download a 10 gig raw for nothing?

>>157420107
I didn't say it was boring

>>157420214
It even says "english subtitle" on panstu cat and is listed under English subs on both pantsu and nyaa.si

Can anyone tell me what gives?

>>157420337
Did you see if there's another sub track you can switch to

>>157420389
There's no two. One is the japanese one, and the other says FORCED but doesn't display anything and is also labeled as japanese. Did the subs work for you?

>>157420289
I want her to be the mother of my 6 children.

>>157420452
*there are two

>Miyoko and Yuzuru

Damn, short haired qts for sure

>>157420389
This is seriously annoying me. It's list as english subs everywhere on the trackers

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>>157420452
I got a different copy so can't help you sorry

>>157420281
No, you implied it by saying it would put him to sleep. Life in the slow lane must be hard.

>>157420591
I know Ueno is pretty cruel, but like, damn

>>157420649
That was not my intention

Are the Mashiro subs actually english?

>>157420814
>This piece of media will put you to sleep
>But I'm not implying it's boring
Anon, please.

>>157416881
People that frequent 4chan, are males and has watched a lot of shit are probably less prone to bawwing at things

>>157420913
I didn't say it would put him to sleep

>>157408623
I read the manga and I still think she is a lying backstabbing bitch.

>>157420913
Hyoka is trash. Deal with it pleb

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Keit-ai destroyed it at the box office even though it's KyoAni's highest grossing theatrical movie.

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>>157407666
>Only good things has happened to me so this karma crap is bs
>says this while using 4chan

>>157421221
What's your point?

>>157399419
And the film ?? What about the film ? It's not even mentionned at all what the fuck

>>157412105
Imagine how fun it would be to manhandle her tiny body. I'd just walk around the house looking for things to bend her over and fuck her on.

>>157407412
Pretty much. Definitely watch it.

Can't wait to get a Blu Ray ~rip~ of this

So [ReinForce] have included separate flac audio for headphones in a .dts file. How do I use that audio instead of the default one?

Using KCP

So what's the consensus on Mashiro subs?

>>157421909
Way better than pseudocartel bullshit 35mm

Is [Nii-sama] Koe no Katachi [1080p].mkv any good ?

Alright I finished the film. Have to say most of the complaints were invalid, I didn't care about the red head, the childhood friends or Kawai and supposedly Shouko's mother is better explored in the manga but aside from those minor complaints this might be the rawest and most sensitive anime film I've ever seen. So tender and fragile it'd break if you even give it a slight touch. It's so refreshing in its sincerity and how non-exploitative it is with the subject matter but above all the way it portrays Ishida's head space, the empathetic way it handled all of the characters and the double meaning of "A Silent Voice" is incredible. What it means to forgive and to consider yourself worthy of forgiveness, the actual sentiment of redemption beyond selfishness and image. There was this expressionistic touch to the directing, the precise sound design and its varying audibility, the skillful uses of ellipses, just remarkable. I'm almost contemplating calling this the best film of 2016 over Moonlight. I want Yamada to solely make original films now because pretty much all of the issues here was because of the presence of side characters from the source material.

>best film of 2016 over Moonlight
>even considering Moonlight

Opinion discarded

>>157421985
its just mashiro

>>157422464
isn't that movie just a "dude he's black AND gay" gimmick?

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>>157383482
Holy shit the directing fucking sucks, they cut fucking everything, fucking hell.

>>157422464
Is moonlight that movie about a black dude and his white girlfriend visiting her parents who are some sort of crazy people? I saw the trailer yesterday on a youtube ad and looked fun.

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>>157383482
This movie was a solid 7/10.
I liked the plot, and the first half is really good, but all the side character needed more development (and after reading this thread, it seems like the manga had it).
Also it felt like something where there just for drama sake (that little blond bitch...I swear, even her friend was an angel in comparision at the end).
I also didnt understand why MC had to apologies with everyone outside of fat bro and red hair, he told the fucking truth.

Outside of that, imoto photographer and MC mum where the best girls.

>>157423009
That's "Get Out"

>>157422928
The way they just cut away from scenes without explaining anything is infuriating.

the two of them are fighting in the classroom, then it just cuts to a totally different scene, giving the conflict no resolution or anything, why would they let a literal autist direct a film like this?

>>157423075
Jesus christ you're just an idiot who can't take hints.

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They make it seem like he just stumbled upon shoko randomly, whilist the manga clearly shows how he had found her, why he was looking for her etc, what is this mess

>>157423151
What's the hint? Scenes ends with her pounding her fist in his face.
Where is the hint, what did i miss, explain because i'm clearly retarded or something.

>>157423329
yamada melodrama

>>157423329
No it doesn't, it shows him walking directly toward the sign language class and peeking inside
That's looking for someone by definition Anon, not stumbling upon her

>>157423329
>They make it seem like he just stumbled upon Shoko randomly
Not at all, it was obvious he had been looking for her/tracked her down. Clarified even more when we get to that point again post-timeskip. Events in the first 5-10 min weren't in chronological order, but it was still pretty simple to follow along.

>>157423075
>>157423361
You're just furthering my conviction that everyone complaining about 'forced melodrama' is just too autistic to understand human interaction. The scene gives a great look into the relationship between the two of them at that point, what more are you asking for?

>>157423494
Except that he doesn't see her in the sign language class, and it's not really clear he's looking for her there.

When I saw that scene I interpreted it as Ishiba attending sign language class and by happenstance Shouko was there and turned the corner as he was about to head in.

In retrospect I understand that interpretation is incorrect, but in the moment it was a completely reasonable perspective.

I prefer Ueno much more over Kawai. At least Ueno is aware that she's a total bitch

>>157423494
They don't do anything to explain what's going on in his head, at this point in the film the viewer has no reason to think that he's searching for her, the scene itself mimicked the manga, it was everything leading up to the scene that was completely absent.
>>157423530
You're fucking retarded, i buy the drama it's fine, my issue is with the directing and cutting of the scenes.

He is beating the living shit out of this girl, and then they just switch to a completely different shot and don't give us any kind of conclusion to the scene, it's fucking horrendous.

>>157423655
>>157423655
maybe they were going for that

>>157423655
At that point weren't you already shown his calendar with the pages ripped off? It wasn't a routine thing for him going to that class

>>157423706
Fucken eh, this cannot be understated. Kawai is a cunt, at least Ueno recognizes reality. She may not agree she acted badly, but she acknowledges how she acted and why she did it. Kawai just shifts the blame and pretends she did nothing wrong.

>>157423766
They had shown the calendar but I don't see your point. The calendar only establishes things specifically related to his suicide, that being quitting work, selling his shit, w/e else was on there.

>>157423742
Maybe they were. I was replying to someone disagreeing with that maybe though. They said it was very clear that Ishida was searching for Shouko there.

>>157423736
>He is beating the living shit out of this girl
Not at all, they were pretty evenly matched and it wasn't a particularly vicious fight in the first place. Ended up with her in the dominant position attacking him too.
> and then they just switch to a completely different shot and don't give us any kind of conclusion to the scene
They'd stopped fighting before the scene switch, what more of a conclusion do you want?

>>157423655
In the manga, it shows other classmates come by and see them, as their fighting in the shoe locker in a wide open area.
In the film they are alone in an empty classroom, there's no reason to believe anything stopped them, yet the scene just cuts, i'm left like "what the fuck happened?, it's just over okay i guess?"
it's like this every other scene, fucking terrible.

So are the subs out?

>>157423832
The calendar shows he had planned out the last days of his life (supposedly) so you could assume him meeting Shouko was not happenstance

>>157421045
>Respond to a post recommending someone Hyouka with a comment about napping
What did anon mean by this?