>in fma 2003, lior was a dirty, run down city full of brown

widescreen format is cancer

>>157310944
it was racist

>>157310944
2003 was actually trying to say something with its themes. Brotherhood was just a vehical for cool fights.

>>157310944
People that praise FMAB are just being ironic right? Haha, you guys got me.

>>157310944
2003 was some anti bush propaganda

Brotherhood is an actual cool shounen series

>>157310944
Kek, after like 10 years that dude with purple shirt took it off.

>>157313793
This, FMAB wasn't a 2deep4u donut steel fanfiction, it was just a fantastic anime

Was the 2003 one non-digital? I don't remember when they stopped doing cel animation but it was the 4:3 era.

>>157314462
FMA 2003 was digital, but it was the time that digital painting tried to mimic cel painting, most shows of that era looks washed by this, FMA color process was better done though.

>comparing 2003's first 26-ish episodes to Brotherhood's beginning when it's common knowledge they are superior in every way

It's just that the series goes to have some inconsisten plot points later, while Urasawa's story keeps the heat. It's Bones anime, after all. However, 2003 still looks much better.

>>157310944
Casual racism

>>157310944
Is it me or does the 2003 Al looks so much more moe?

>>157310944
>lior was a dirty, run down
>not up to date with modern civilization

Thats not true.

>>157320146
Why are you misquoting him and then disagreeing with the part he didn't say?

>>157313893
Tell that to everyone who put it on the higest rated anime of a lot of pages.

>>157311706
Explain why?

It's almost inevitable at this point to have a show in this format and it's for now the standard.

>>157320527
You pretty much confirm what he just said.
We call things cancer when they grow from a minor fringe item to an all-encompassing [evil] that you can no longer get rid of.
You can still disagree with him on whether or not widescreen is bad. I personally dislike widescreen, but I don't feel up for an argument right now.

>>157320586
I see, in that case just state why you don't like them.

I'm also not in the mood of an argument, nor is it productive to do it.

>>157310944
They got rid of the poc, obviously.

>>157320527
Why? Because the extra screenspace makes it more difficult to make everything detailed?

>>157320586
most retarded comment ive read all day

>>157310944
Gentrification

>>157314035
Doesn't say much coming from a dumb kid like yourself.

>>157314035
>actual cool shounen
These three words, what do they mean in conjunction with one another? I do not understand.

I literally don't get Brotherhoodfags who overrated the show to death while throwing the much better paced, animated and directed version because "it's not faithful to the manga", as if that means anything at all when it comes to quality. And even if they value faithfulness that much, Brotherhood butchers the first arcs, badly.

It's sad how many people fall for the brotherhood meme. It looks bland, every scene has these pastel tones without shading or lighting or any care to make a scene communicate an emotional tone, and it keeps shoving those embarrassing chibi panels that make no sense outside a manga just because they had no creative vision whatsoever when adapting the material.

>>157324431
Are you sure?

>>157324431
are you crazy

>>157324431
2/10

>>157325971
It isn't bait, retard.

2003 was better overall but the finale to FMAB is far superior to the clusterfuck of 2003.

>>157310944
they lost the war then got immigrants, even al and ed are more relaxed with the new population

>>157316808
he got a smaller chin, hands and waste while his gesture is more scared too

>>157327353
Kill yourself /pol/fag.

>>157325030
>>157325204
>>157325971
>>>http://myanimelist.net/

>>157327010
FMAB finale was just your standard JRPG endgame with a limpdicked wannabe-third impact thrown in there.

But, I did like the Epilogue and Ed's resolution with not-God, that shit was great.

>>157310944
they became white

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>>157310944
reminder.
brohood master was 576p at best.

>>157320156
Not him but I think you might need to reread OP

>>157329873
And what about the master for 2003?

>>157324431
Too obvious.

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>>157330221
Yeah because it's the truth.

>>157330329
FMA 2003 was almost 15 years ago and still looks so good.

>>157330329
I seriously don't understand people who believe FMAB > 2003

>>157330509
It's just that a big amount of people don't care about presentation, directing or pacing at all. In terms of pure story and characters I think FMAB is more interesting, more consistent and makes more sense overall.
Almost everything else, especially cinematographically is worse.
But people simply don't care about directing. The fact that a piece of garbage as ero manga sensei is becoming so popular right now proofs that.

>>157330841
>It's just that a big amount of people don't care about presentation, directing or pacing at all
Hence why they value "muh faithful to the manga" more than basic visual qualities of a visual medium. You'd be hard pressed to find bigger plebs.
>In terms of pure story and characters I think FMAB is more interesting, more consistent and makes more sense overall
Story, yes, but characters, no. FMAB portrays characters as shonen tropes, and the overall bigger scope of the story compared to 2003 as well as FMAB's bigger focus on long fights doesn't allow character development nearly as well. 2003 is a character driven story about Ed and Al and the characters they meet, FMAB is an epic scoped plot driven story about a bigger struggle in the entire nation. I can understand people who prefer epic plot-driven stories as opposed to character driven more focused ones, but there is a tradeoff when it comes to character development.

This is true especially early on, as Brotherhood rushes things along and you don't get to really meet the characters as well. It gets better paced later, but by that time the story is already way bigger in scope and the individual character struggles don't seem nearly as important anymore.
I'd be okay with the insane, almost dogmatic praise FMAB gets if at least they didn't rush the early portions by assuming people already watched the original or read the manga, and it had better directing and more depth to the visuals. As it is, I look at the people gushing over it as a perfect show and I feel like I'm going mad.

>>157330841
Are you even trying? You are comparing Eromanga sensei with one of the best Shonen anime/manga of all times, FMAB was well animated and the music was superb, the coreography in the battles was well done and the history is faithful to the manga so take your fucking nostalgia glasses off and just accept the fact that you aren't special and you liked FMAB way more than the 2003 adaptation.

>>157324251
Grandpa,
take your pills, switch off your pc and go to bed.

>>157331586
Why waste time and episodes redoing something you already did in FMA 2003?
It's super popular, everyone watched it so it was pointless
That said FMAB was much better paced, even in the first part
FMA 2003 moves at a snail's pace in the beginning
Also why suddenly mention eromanga sensei, they're completely different genres

>>157320586
>i hate mor screen
Do you enjoy still using an inferior CRT monitor?

>>157331887
>faithful to the manga
Irrelevant.

>>157310944
ITT: Anime-only fags try to defend their inability to read as well as their love for fanfiction.

>>157310944
FMA wanted a desert city to be the opening to its world. FMAB had to abide by the countrywide transmutation circle so it was a generic german city. FMA had much more varied backdroos and areas than FMAB did

>>157332095
FMA: B as well as the manga were generic battle shounens. Get over it.

>>157310944
you do realize that Lior is never drawn to look like a dirty middle eastern town in the manga right? The whole point of Lior in the manga is to show that even good people, living in a relatively simple place can be manipulated into doing bad things.

>>157310944
Gentrification.

>>157331990
>That said FMAB was much better paced, even in the first part

Oh man, hahahaha.
>Here's our mother, we love her very much!
>Cuts to a literal shot of her grave immediately, and we are supposed to feel bad

If you think FMAB isn't rushed then I can disregard everything you will ever say. That and anyone who mentions "faithful to the manga" as an argument for the quality of the work.

>>157332095
Which is why the american comic industry is still going strong.

>>157332118
>generic german city

there's literally nothing german about that city amerifat.

>>157332146
It's because FMAB is a quick refresh of the beginning instead of the overly drawn out slog the original series was
It's the same way that Eva rebuild 1 is to the first episodes of Eva

>>157330329
Watching the nina scene in brotherhood made me feel nothing while in the 2003 I was a mess after it.

I haven't even finished brotherhood because it just felt lackluster compared to 2003

>>157332476
The soundtrack being a shit compared to 2003's probably played a big part of it.

>>157321545
>extra screenspace
You're retarded. There's no extra space, it's just a different shape. Imagine if the 4x3 image were much bigger, and at a much higher resolution, than the 16:9. Would the picture on the right still have "extra screenspace"?

>>157332656
Anon look at OPs fucking picture, it's pretty clear that FMAB is using a horizontally extended frame from what FMA used, not a vertically matted one. If it wasn't more screenspace then we wouldn't even be able to see Al's head, and yet we see both his head and a large area to Ed's right.

Just dropped Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood at episode 9. That was just too stupid. Unforgivably stupid even.

The reason it's so highly rated everywhere is because idiots adore it.

>>157333150
What's your top 5 anime anon?

>>157334043
I don't know about >>157333150 but my 5 top anime are

Shin Sekai Yori
Shiki
FMA 2003
Psycho Pass
Gintama

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>>157310944
>drawn with crayon
>drawn with a tame, not overly saturated color pallete
Pick one.
This is why I cant fucking stand shitty older anime. Pic unrelated.

>>157334183
Holy newfag batman. Why aren't you watching anime instead of posting here?

>>157334444
If by crayon you mean drawn with relatively detailed backgrounds and colors other than grayed out pastels, then I pick crayon.

>>157310944
We can fight all we want but I still can't believe Bones adapted FMA two fucking times and Brotherhood actually followed the manga. I can forgive them for their 2003 fanfiction.

>>157334841
Just looks at edwards fucking hair even the contours are better

>>157335598
Only significant difference in that aspect is the outline color, which I will admit is better in Brotherhood.

>>157324431
Manga fags are always autistic about 1-to-1 adaptations. I never really take their opinion seriously.

>>157310944
Iraq War went bad.

I can guarantee that if the first anime is anything like Brotherhood it wouldn't leave a lasting legacy that the 2003 series has achieved.

>>157310944
1. I explained here
2. They were still clearly poorer and more brown than the rest of the nation.

>>157332118
>generic german city
Wut

Not even the more european parts of the nation are "germanic". The setting is based upon 1900 Northwest Europe/Britain.

>>157332476
Yeah it's almost like one occurred in 2003-2004 and the other was 6-7 years later and we all aged in that time?

You austists need to understand that FMAB was made with the explicit understanding that most viewers had seen FMA 2003 already. They went relatively quickly through the first 20 episodes because they weren't going to rehash every part of FMA 2003 and lose space for the new episodes.

>>157336990
Exactly. The combination of the two balances each one out and emphasizes their strengths.

Whenever I rewatch, I personally watch the first 25 episodes of FMA and then move on to episode 20 in FMA brotherhood. Odd how I remember waiting months on end for the new releases back in 2010.

>>157336728
What I don't get is why not just read the manga then. If you go to a different medium, you are supposed to expand the work to fit that medium.
That's what adapting means, it doesn't mean a 1:1 translation.

What I truly wanted is a FMA adaptation that is as well directed and put together as 2003, but adapts the manga story to the end, would probably be like 95+ episodes. But we got this awful situation where you have to choose between the better made but alternative adaptation, or the faithful but subpar (compared to 2003, still better than most anime) adaptation.

>>157337140
>You austists need to understand that FMAB was made with the explicit understanding that most viewers had seen FMA 2003 already. They went relatively quickly through the first 20 episodes because they weren't going to rehash every part of FMA 2003 and lose space for the new episodes.

Judging a work on its own merits is not autism, it's common sense. How the fuck do you recommend FMA for a newcomer, for example?
Watch the 2003 adaptation that doesn't actually represent the canon but get a fulfilling experience beginning to end, or watch the 2009 adaptation that assumes you are already familiar with a big part of the franchise?

It's shit, don't defend it. The first arcs of Brotherhood taint it. If anything, saying you have to watch external material to "understand" a work is more autistic than anything else, like the EU Star Wars fags.

>>157334183
Fuck off idiot

>>157331990
Because its generally not good story telling to assume your audience has watched another version of the story.

>>157337624
>>157339359
This.

>>157330329
Man, I just rewatched both scenes, the 2003 version really was better in basically every way.

I know FMAB has an amazing OST, but it still didn't even come close to the stellar 2003 masterpiece.

They really should've used this in Brotherhood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQLrkW33f0

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>>157332148

>>157342574
That was a pretty good movie.

>>157314035
The series itself was left wing anti-war propaganda.

>>157342878
I could go for a Sandman cartoon

>>157343126
Spiderman 3 wasn't a very good movie

>>157343723
hue

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>>157343723
I still can't believe Spidey killed all of those innocent people

FMA Brotherhood is a shounen.

FMA 2003 is a seinen.

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>>157343723
Talking about a different sandman, dude from DC.

Vertigo stuff like Hellblazer deserve recognition, but live action tv shows aren't going to do any justice for them.

Everyone pretended to like the Constantine tv series because it was 'faithful', but even I think the keanu film was better in quality


Sorry for being very off-topic about this, but I just wanted to vent

>>157330329
these both look terrible

>>157330329
The visuals weren't even the main problem here.

Brotherhood just rushed through that whole arc in 1 episode, where the original built it up over 3 episodes.

>>157310944
>a white population


This happened anon.

>>157346425
Still beats having the entire 2nd half of the story full of fanfiction and shit ending. Brotherhood >>>> 2003

>people hate widescreen now
What the fuck, has /a/ really became that contrarian? How the fuck is watching an anime stretched to widescreen or having black borders better than widescreen?

>>157346542
Neither, is better, all that matters is the quality in which something is produced and framed. No one has verified whether the complaint is about artists getting lazy and not putting as much detail into the wider aspect ratio, so I assume this is just typical contrarianism

>>157346511
2003's first 20 episodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brotherhood

>>157344889

D.C fucked over Hellblazer. They should've just let it stay done

>>157346511
Except brotherhood also has a terrible ending
>guess we fightin god nao xd
>friendship punch wins!!!!1111
I can write a fanfiction ending with sonichu beating god with a rasengan and then having a kid with elmo and it would still be better than that extremely generic,dull and bland turd

2deep4u original ending > MAKA WINS WITH VALOR PUNCH EVERYONE HAPPYXD ending

>>157349312
I realize you're being hyperbolic but you prefer the mess of 2003 over FMAB? Why? The "friendship punch" or whatever the fuck you mean wasn't some sort of deus ex machina, everything that was done to defeat Father was pretty reasonable.

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>ishval episode
>it ain't me starts playing

>>157349312
>2deep4u original ending
>Get in fool, we goin nazi hunting

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>>157349692
The ending of FMA (ignoring the movie) was impactful and consistent with the themes of sacrifice and loss that were prevalent earlier in the series. The villain was on the weaker side, but she was much more down to earth than the literally god they ended up with in brotherhood, and that suited the first series well. The interconnectedness of the characters made their contributions to the story feel more meaningful, and since the cast was smaller nearly all of them got satisfying character arcs. I probably haven't fully watched the ending to 2003 since before brotherhood aired, and I still remember it clearly, but honestly, I can't recall a single detail about the finale of brotherhood.

Shamballa was admittedly a mess, but in its defense the director and Arakawa supposedly wrote about 14 episodes worth of material for it, and it suffered from heavy cuts. Maybe if the original script was done justice things would have turned out better.

Story
FMAB >> FMA
Visuals
FMA>=FMAB
Soundtrack
FMA >> FMAB