What's the current recommended player for watching animu?

Install gentoo.

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pic related
absolutely disgusting

mpv-hc

>>157164518
I have never used any other codec pack aside from the K-Lite pack ever since It have ever been created, played all formats know so far, even the whole 10bit stuff, so yeah

VLC

https://files.nyaa.se/HOW_DO_I_PLAYED_BACK.txt

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>>157165431
Exactly what I needed, thanks.
Same screenshot with new settings. Much better now.

>>157164518

FFS use Worksafe request.

>>>/wsr/

mpv
everything else is shit

>>157164518
MPC-HC with MadVR and xysubfilter.

>>157164518
I use potplayer.

>>157165431
>nyaa.se
Anon....

>>157166419
https://files.nyaa.pantsu.cat/HOW_DO_I_PLAYED_BACK.txt
My bad.

>>157164518
Install MPC-HC
Install MadVR
Install xysubfilter
In MadVR, enable debanding on high for Horriblesubs or other poor quality sources. Enable smooth motion "only if there would be motion judder without it." Uncheck everything under trade quality for performance. Now, while playing a 720p file, set the image upscaling settings as high as you can without experiencing frame drops. NGU Sharp is best for good sources, NGU Anti Alias is best for poor sources. Then set your chroma upscaling as high as you can without frame drops.
That's it.
Do not use codec packs like CCCP or KCP as they can and will cause playback problems later on which manual installation of MPC/MadVR/xysubfilter will not. I base this statement on personal experience.
There has been literally zero reason to use KCP or CCCP since MPC-HC installs started containing LAV filters by default.
If MadVR is slow for you even on low settings, install mpv instead. mpv is objectively worse than MPC-HC for good PCs until it obtains an upscaling algorithm equivalent or superior to NGU. It's nice for toasters, though, as it's less intensive.

>>157166163
>Same screenshot
Moron.

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>>157164518
I serve a plex server to my playstayshun and pipe that into my Smart TV.

>>157166544
Yeah it's 1 frame difference but you can clearly see the reduced banding still.

>>157166315
This. Put the convert script in your config directory, and you can make webms from mpv.

>>157164518
I just use Vanilla MPC

>>157164518
CCCP is obsolete, use mpv with this config:
>>157143867
https://mpv.io/installation/

I still use CCCP. There's a chance I'm retarded though.

What's the best way to watch on a pi? Don't say Kodi.

mpv or mpc-hc

if it ain't broke don't fix it. CCCP masterrace

>>157166619
>and you can make webms from mpv.

How can you do that, care to spoonfeed me?

>>157166761
That config is redundant and even wrong.
The profile profile=opengl-hq already sets vo as opengl. It also has deband on by default. Some of those scalers are subjective in their quality increase.

>>157166615
you really cant at all.

>>157167179
https://gist.github.com/Zehkul/25ea7ae77b30af959be0
It's not being updated anymore though, so expect bugs (I had to edit it to stop using metadata title as filename, as illegal characters broke output).

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>>157167265
Here you go. The exact same frame also taken after all the filters so you can see it better.

>>157167473
Well fuck me. It's still not after the filters. Anyway the banding is basically completely gone with the madVR filters.

>>157167410
thanks anon

Does madVR let you watch anime on one screen and shitpost on /a/ on the other? If i remember right it locked focus to one screen while in fullscreen mode, or restored the player window when focus was lost.

>>157167658
It has settings to enable exclusive fullscreen but it's disabled by default. I'm doing the exact thing now no problem.

>>157167658
Are you one of those retards that watches anime in 2.5x speed so your mal stats look cool?
Either you watch something or you don't.

>>157167807
Wathicng at 2.5x speed is silly. Instead I have skip set to 2500ms and I use it about every half second. The half second is enough to read the subtitles and 2500 is just enough to jump to next line so I can follow dialogues 90%+ while saving 83% of time. When there is something cool happening I stop skipping though. Also that's only for mediocre series. If it's good I'll watch without skipping but there is only 1 or 2 series like that per season. And I don't have MAL or any other online profile so it's not for e-peen. It's just that most series are largely boring and I'm just skimming them for those select good parts.

>>157167807
What the fuck are you talking about you stupid nigger?

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>>157167807
>he doesn't shitpost on /a/ about the anime he's watching while he's watching it

What is wrong with you?

>>157168072
Why would you need to watch anime whilst at the same time posting on /a/?
The only explanation I can think of is that you let it run in the background so you can boast about how much more shows you watched than your imaginary friends.

>>157168220
I literally don't even have a mal. Stop projecting you fucking faggot.

>>157168248
That's not the point, I'm genuinely confused as to why you would want to watch shit on a second monitor while not even paying attention to it?

>>157168335
It's very possible to pay attention to several things at once.

>>157164518
>>157164716
>>157166346
>>157166387
>>157166526
>>157166749
>>157166761


>not using mpv +madvr
you are all pleb

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>>157166387
My negro

I just open video files in notepad and read them out loud.

>>157168398
No, it's not.

>>157164518
LAV Filters megamix
No need to thank me.

It comes down to a simple question:

>Are you autistic?
See >157166526 and the myriad other posts telling you to download a billion different programs and sacrifice your unborn child to the heathen gods

>Are you normal?

Use VLC like a normal human being and enjoy how everything just f.u.c.k.i.n.g. w.o.r.k.s

No other posts are needed, everything below this line is moot.

>>157168609
Are you still not done yet faggot? The only reason I ask is because my CCCP setup at the moment has sync issues with monitors running at different refresh rates with certain applications forcing priority of my card, which affects the quality of my animu. You come accusing me of some speed anime watcher or whatever the fuck you're going on about which I literally couldn't give a shit about. I fucking hate reddit.

>>157164600
>>157166163
>>157167473
What should I see here?

>>157168734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding

>>157168734
autism

>>157168724
That was someone else, I agree with him.
You imply that disagreeing is reddit but you're too new to not have set up your shit right.
Fuck off.

>>157168734
Someone not using "reduce banding" on high
They all look the same

>>157168837
This

Why do people care about not being able to see their their anime in pristine quality?

If you took a picture of a turd with a shitty camera and an expensive one, you're still looking at a turd at the end of the day.

>>157168693
>using an inferior player just because you're too lazy and/or stupid to learn something else
Not an excuse. If you spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours watching anime, you might as well take a couple minutes to learn a superior player. Streamfags use vlc, as does your tech illiterate grandparent who googles "best media player current year" and clicks the first link.

>>157168068
Woah, there's someone else that does this

I've mostly stopped doing it after learning enough japanese to watch raws though. I'm trying to watch as much as possible with subs turned off and skipping around like that doesn't work when you don't have subtitles

>>157168930
I'm using it but MPC takes screenshots without applying all the filters. There is no banding on the screen when watching. I know you can set processing order in mplayer to set screenshotting last so you get true result. Does MPC have similar switch?

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>>157168930
How do I use it irl?

>>157169076
Install the latest patch, it should be in video options.

>>157168987
Exactly, which is why I stream. Who cares if the quality is a bit off. It's so much easier and the steams are all 720p nowadays anyway.

>>157168994
Not the guy you're replying to, but your multiple different programs don't actually do anything better than VLC does. It's just a placebo affect to make you feel superior for using 4 different programs instead of one.

>>157168994
>VLC
>Inferior player

I bet you still post mudkipz and think LOLcats are hilarious as well, considering you're living 10 fucking years in the past.

>>157169153
Even given the same source decoder and filters can make a big difference in final mage quality. Streams run in browsers and use shitty decoders optimized for performance. With good setup you have state-of-the-art decoders optimized for quality with filters to remove annoying artifacts like banding and ringing.

>>157169249
>>157169161
> don't actually do anything better than VLC does
Does VLC have deband filter?

>>157168517
now I know you're shitposting

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>>157168693
>loading font cache
>just fucking works

>>157169325
VLC doesn't have not being a piece of shit

Use mpv. Madvr is gay botnetware and nonfree shitware. Don't forget to install GNU/Linux.
>Inb4 muh werk, we all know your time is worthless

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>>157164518

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>>157168693
sure

>not using quicktime the player that's always there for you and the first one

>>157169804
this shit has trouble with subtitle rendering when OPs and EDs are seperate files

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>>157170125
WRONG.

>>157170203
Yeah okay fag, don't address a technical issue with your free open sores software.

>being so bad at software development that your software doesn't even have a practical, functional GUI

>>157170550
I don't have that problem. Thus, it's either been fix or you fucked up somewhere. Shoo, philistine

>>157170661
All I can say is think is it's been fixed, I wasn't the only one with the issue and the other person with the issue got no help from /g/. libass is the problem.

>>157170621
If you're talking about mpv, it does have a functional screen controller where you can control the playback. And as for configuration, you only need to configure it once and that's it.

what about linux

>>157164518
mpv if you're willing to invest a little bit of time to get the config you want, otherwise vanilla MPC-HC.
No further autism is necessary for MPC-HC, because if you're going to be autistic about quality then it's best to use mpv.

>>157171031
>new version of MadVR comes out
>easily play with and learn all the new features without doing any research using the competently designed GUI
>new version of mpv comes out
>spend years trying to find new config lines
>spend more years figuring out what they're supposed to do because nobody but three /g/ autists uses or talks about mpv on the internet

>>157171078
Linux is a kernel, what about it?

>>157170049
>not using quicktime the player that's always there for you and the first one
Not using Real Player, the player that's always there for you and the first one.

>>157171221
>because if you're going to be autistic about quality then it's best to use mpv.
Except mpv does not produce higher quality imagery than MadVR.

>>157171313
>buffering

>>157171283
https://mpv.io/manual/master/
Ctrl+F
Look at that, no need to deal with any autists on /g/.

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>>157171283
>too dumb to figure out mpv
How you gonna install Gentoo with that mindset bud? Gotta step up your game.

>>157164518
mpv with the opengl-hq profile

>>157171283
echo "profile=opengl-hq" >> ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf

That's all the configuration you have to do to get decent playback.

>>157171319
But it does. And it uses less resources while doing so.
Either way, who the fuck cares whether it's mpv or MadVR that has the 0.01% better image quality?

>>157171468
When you're too dumb to install a real nigga free OS, that 0.1% starts looking real important.

>>157171386
Literally 209 page downs on a 1080p monitor.
>new version of MadVR comes out
>easily play with and learn all the new features without doing any research using the competently designed GUI
>new version of mpv comes out
>have to read 209 fucking pages of manual to find all the new config lines

>>157166557
If it's a smart TV then why not pipe plex directly in?

>>157167187
default deband is 1 iteration

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>>157171539
Imagine being this retarded. Geez, what a life that'd be!

>>157171468
>but it does
Compare ewa_lanczossharp with NGU Sharp when upscaling a quality BD rip then come back and tell me that again. You are wrong.

>>157171634
>he doesn't know about user shaders
Hah! Come back in 20 years, kiddo.

>>157171539
What is a changelog?

>>157164518
What insufferable autist thought it was a good idea to put commie shit on this?

>>157171701
Name a user shader which produces better upscaling than NGU Sharp (or NGU AA for poor quality sources), and provide a screenshot comparison demonstrating its superiority to NGU.
>in b4 NNEDI3
Madshi is considering REPLACING NNEDI3 in MadVR with NGU AA for a reason.

>>157171768
Ssimsuperres + adaptive sharpen 2pass

Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.

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>>157171768
>adaptive sharpen
Please put on a tripcode so I can filter you. That shit is fucking terrible.

>>157171768
How do I take a full screen(upcaled) ss with mpc?
With mpv is ctrl+s.

>>157171926 meant for >>157171804

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>>157171926
Not an argument. So mad he couldn't even quote the right person.
MadVRetards btfo again.

>>157171950
Print screen, paste to Photoshop. Doesn't work in exclusive mode.

>>157171926
Change the strength, retard.

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>mpv

>>157172152
>falsifying screenshots
How pathetic can mpctards get?

>>157172152
>downloading dvdrips when BDrips are available
>bitching about sharpening
The purest form of autism I've had the horror of coming across.

>>157168987
Don't look at turds then.

>>157170125
Not at all. Bloatgrills' Monogatari releases have the OPs and EDs as separate files, and MPV handles it just fine. Try getting a build that's not from 2013.

>>157172152
Now compare it to nnedi at 64 neurons. MPV can use filters other than lanczos.

>>157172502
He can't, remember? Config files and manpages are too advanced for the miniscule brains of mpctards.

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>>157164518
If you know what you're doing mpv. If not just get mpc-hc straight from the devs and madVR. If you're anal you can get the latest LAV filters and vsfilter as well though the internal one should be fine provided you're keeping mpc up to date.

If you prioritize framerate/smoothness and your monitor is 1080p or less get SVP before madVR or high end upscalers in mpv. If you're on a toaster use EVR custom as the renderer instead of madVR.

https://imouto.my/tutorials/madvr/
http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2317
https://wiki.mikejung.biz/MadVR#madVR_Overview

All of these are useful for mpc-hc config for anime. I recommend only making resolution/megapixel based profile selections. The .avi/.mp4/.mkv container and group name parameters will usually just set the wrong profile on.

if (srcHeight < 720) "SD"
else "HD"
else if (srcHeight >= 1080) "FullHD"

If you have it, I suppose you could make a 4K profile as well.

The great thing about mpv's config files is that you can use it on any computer and it's the same (except the hardware decoding). If you dualboot like me you can copy the config file to both OS and not have to bother with separate GUI menu configs.

>>157172542
I am set in my ways anon. Until multigpu or newer apis are implemented, there just isn't much incentive to transition.

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What's this mpv meme people are pushing now? Give me one good reason to switch from mpc with madvr.

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>>157172594
Thanks anon, had a good laugh with that webm

>>157172036
>having to paste into PhotoShop
garbage

>>157172966
mpv isn't new at all, anon. But mpv is only slightly better than MadVR, so there's no reason to switch if you've already got MadVR set up.

>>157172966
>Give me one good reason
There's none.

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ewa_lanczossharp vs NGU Sharp(there's literally no difference, maybe less noise in the NGU part).
https://diff.pics/fLi5MbaICEn0/1

The first one is the Hell Girl DVD(720*480p) and the second one is the Flip Flapper BD(1280*720p).

madvr settings are in pic related.

mpv settings:
# video
vo=opengl
profile=opengl-hq
deband=yes
deband-iterations=4
scale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossharp
dscale=mitchell
sigmoid-upscaling=yes
correct-downscaling=yes

>>157172594
Forgot to add if you want 10bit with SVP then you need mpv because the avisynth plugin for ffdshow only supports 8bit. mpv and other versions use vapoursynth instead. madshi is suppose to be working on madVR integration with vapoursynth which should resolve this though, the lazy ass.

>>157172502
>madVR v0.91.6
>* added NGU Anti-Alias algorithm, intended as a potential NNEDI3 replacement
>replacement
That's because it's better.

>>157174335
>it's better because reasons
It's not the first one a dev replaces something because he misguidedly thinks it's "better".

>>157173528
I have eyes that actually work and a large monitor. The NGU Sharp version is significantly superior in both images here. It's significantly less noisy on the DVD image and the lineart is significantly sharper (without added artifacting) on the BD one. Thanks for posting this, anon. This is the best evidence in the thread for or against either media player.

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>>157168068
>>157169030
If this isn't actually bait, you two need help.

>>157174398
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/197644
NGU > NNEDI3
Look at the eyes of the guy in the purple shirt on the right while mousing over.

>>157174434
I have a 40 inch 4K TV and 20/20 vision. The difference is minimal at best you autistic fucktard. Stop pretending you can see this snake oil in actual moving video.

>>157174474
The gains are marginal. Yes, it's a bit sharper in some cases. Doesn't warrant the installation of two separate applications to watch video.

>>157174474
Also, madVR is windows only. mpv is present on Android, macOS, GNU/Linux, *BSD and Windows.

>>157174434
>significantly

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

>>157174434
I agree NGU Sharp is better overall, but the difference is really fucking minimal. Especially in the Flip Flappers pic.

>>157173528
Do you really have to click through that GUI mess to change settings? How can people argue that configs are harder and take longer than learning all the crap in that GUI?

>>157174453
I have video games to play, manga/comics/VNs to read, doujins to fap to and full time job. Also those shitposts on 4 chan won't write themselves. Need to optimize fun per time spent.

>downloading 1080p (old and new animu)
>use mpv
>SSimDownscaler + mitchell
>watch it on 1366x768 tv
Am I doing it right?

>>157174434
Yeah, look at the strands of hair. Hair is supposed to be a mess of sharpened pixels. At least on lanczos the hairstrands actually look like hair. In this usecase, lanczos is visibly superior. It doesn't visibly distort the image, even if it's blurrier or less sharp. NGU visibly fucks up the image. Stop shilling your proprietary madVR shit.

>>157174487
>>157174676
>>157174768
He's just baiting, yes there's a difference but its minimal.
Take in count that madvr is also more resource demanding than mpv.

MPV and get argon's config and tweak to your taste (it's not even hard to make a basic config from scratch), if you're a pleb who can't do anything by yourself just install LAV megamix which is mpc with madVR.

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Let's have a contest, shall we?

The file:
[$tore] New Game! - NCOP (BD 720p Opus) [1EA58AE8].mkv

The challenge:
Scale this image (0:27) to 4K. Whichever looks the best wins. As a baseline, here is waifu2x.

>>157174882
>Hair is supposed to be a mess of sharpened pixels.
This is officially the worst post in the history of /a/.
>It doesn't visibly distort the image
Both lanczos and NGU literally distort the original image.
>NGU visibly fucks up the image.
It makes it look significantly more like a non-upscaled anime at native resolution, e.g. it makes it better.
>>157174487
Obviously the difference will be harder to see on your 4k TV than my 1080p display.
>he fell for the 4k meme when there's 0 (ZERO) anime being broadcast in 4k

>>157174974
Oh look, a contest that anime patricians can't even participate in.
>actually using a 4k display on an anime viewing PC
Anyone serious about anime views it on a PC with a 1080p display right now.

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>>157174974
>let's compare a screenshot filter with realtime video filters
The lines look like shit by the way

>>157175052
>>157175101
You're an idiot, please get a trip so I can filter you.
>>157174974
And here is my settings, adaptive sharpen at 0.8 and ssimsuperres.
https://my.mixtape.moe/tiksdg.png
>>157175124
Waifu2x is the best neural network scaler we have. Even madshit admits it.

>>157175168
>Waifu2x is the best neural network scaler we have. Even madshit admits it.
But what is the point if it's only for images? Why would you compare it to video filter/upscalers?

>>157175168
Post config.

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>>157175244
>implying waifu2x can't be used to upscale anime
It can be, it's just slow and only practical on NVIDIA cards IIRC right now.

>>157175244
I'll just quote madshi on this one.

"FWIW, waifu2x is much too slow for realtime use, I only added it as a reference point for image quality."

>>157175245
https://pastebin.com/X5E5nTTT

>>157171804
MadVR has SuperRes and adaptive sharpen.

>>157174474
>http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/197644
You need to give the render times.

>>157175244
Waifu is way too slow for realtime upscaling

>>157175052
Nice reading comprehension m8. I said VISIBLY distort. As in, ARTIFACTS IN FUCKING HAIRSTRANDS. Sharper != better.

>>157174777
Yeah, just use mpv

>>157175482
Both lanczos and NGU literally visibly distort the original image. An upscale is literally a distortion of the original scale image.
The NGU BD upscale in >>157173528 is not an example of clearly visible artifacting on the hairstrands. NGU is quite remarkably artifact free compared to competing upscalers.

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WHAT'S the deal with VLC!

>>157174777
>How can people argue that configs are harder and take longer than learning all the crap in that GUI?
Because it's true.

>>157175629
Nah, NGU is very clearly artifacting. And you would expect it to as well. It's a trade off - more sharpness, or less artifacts. You can't really say one or the other is better, it's just personal preference at that point.

>>157175482
Adaptive sharpening causes far more artifacting than NGU.

>>157173528
wow the lines in the hair look great on the second ngu one
been using mpv, downloading mpc+madvr now

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>>157175782
>the city of >>157174882

>>157175725
It's also sharper. Trade offs.

>>157175629
>>157175711
More importantly, NGU is slightly faster than NNEDI3 at equivalent settings by a few milliseconds. This is very valuable with interpolation.

>>157175782
the hair looks distorted in the ngu upscale

>>157175796
>>157175836

I think I remember reading that one of the NGU algorithms had trouble with quadrupling certain sources. This may be that thing I read about. The hair looks much better on the NGU version of the BD upscale.

>>157173528

Can you provide the same frame from the DVD upscaled with NGU AA? That looks like a poor source and NGU AA generally does better than NGU sharp with poor sources.

Yes, NGU is better for SOME usecases. Specifically modern, digital anime. But for old grainy anime it's shit. Noise and detail came hand in hand on film. The only way you got sharper is with finer grain. If your source is 16mm, NGU is going to fuck it up. Menawhile, with 32 mm (which is already sharper than 16mm) NGU looks better.

>>157176076
So, a patrician will have both MPC-HC and mpv installed. Interesting.
And yes, a patrician will use Windows to watch anime even if he uses Linux for everything else, as it's far more powerful and versatile audio-wise.

>>157176158
>directshow
>better than ffmpeg
no

>>157176158
Windows is literally malware. A true patrician will not use Windows for that reason alone.

I only put profile=opengl-hq in my config and never touched it again, you guys have autism.

>>157176158
I'll give you the audio part. ALSA is way too fucking arcane to use and pulseaudio is just plain shit that induces random noise.

>>157171554
that would make it to simple

>>157176076
>>157176158
Does mpv not have NNEDI3?

>>157176195
Linux has no answer for Equalizer APO, the single most powerful, useful audio software I have come across. Allowing ALSA to use the widely used VST like it can LADSPA or someone simply developing a competent dual channel parametric equalizer with plenty of bands and a built in convolver for LADSPA would solve this deficiency of Linux's.
Also, the best headphone crossfeed I've found is a VST plugin. MPC-HC can use it through ffdshow audio's Winamp plugin support, since there's a Winamp plugin that loads VST into Winamp. There isn't a media player in Linux that can use it. I've looked.
I really wanted to switch full-time to Linux once I got accustomed to using it for a lot of things but Windows' wider support of audio software has kept me chained to Windows for anime viewing and gaming.

>>157176404
It does, NNEDI is quite inferior to >>157175168 in my opinion.

>>157176404
It does, but not natively. You have to download user filters. Then again, madVR isn't native to mpc-hc, so it's actually better, since mpv only uses the files.
Dude, I already aknowledged that. See >>157176239

>>157176076
>Yes, NGU is better for SOME usecases
This seems to be true based on >>157173528
NGU doesn't handle the DVD source well but outperforms lanczos on the BD source. The MadVR/mpv rivalry is at a stalemate. Fascinating result.

>>157176216
It's cute that you think your OS isn't compromised by three letter agencies. Adorable, really.

>>157176656
Compromised software != malware. Straw man. Not an argument.

>>157164518
Why is /a/ recommending this degenerate commmie cuck trash?

>>157176581
But sharpening DVD sources, in my opinion, is far more common than sharpening BD sources. BD is already sharp enough on most 1080p screens. Unless you have 1200p or bigger, sharpening BD content is a marginal gain.
>>157176656
It's harder to compromise gnu/linux since the community has oversight. On windows, no one except microsoft knows what goes on in their code.

>>157176216
Goes to prove how overrun /a/ is nowadays with /v/ and general crossposters when people use a gamer toy OS instead of an anime OS.

>>157164518
mpv

>>157176656
Wincucks are getting cucked by slavshits right now, lmao.

>>157176461
>>157176771
Well you're arguing two things mpv vs madVR and NGU vs NNEDI3 so get your arguments straight.

I've been playing with NGU vs NNEDI3 in madVR thanks to you two and getting dramatically lower render times with NGU with no significant difference in quality on anime both old and new. I imagine live footage would be very different though. I think I'll stick with NGU because I don't need SuperRes and I can go from 75 frames to 90 in SVP now. Still can't quite hit the limit of my monitor but at this point I can't consciously see the difference.

>>157176926
How well does Wine work with Steam? I can't stomach Windows 10 and Windows 7 won't last much longer.

>>157177118
You can just gpu passthrough to a VM with windows. It's kinda hard to setup, and you NEED either broadwell or later, or ryzen or later but the results are within single digit frame differences between real windows and VM'd passthrough windows

>>157177118
Link related: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

>>157176771
I don't know about sharpening, but there are a lot of shows on BD which anibin has listed as 720p, and there's going to be a lot of people upscaling those 720p BD rips. There's also a lot of people who are going to be upscaling 1080p BD rips to larger resolutions.

>>157177426
You're right. I guess it is a stalemate after all.

CCCP is practically dead/useless. Just get the latest binary from the mpchc site.

>>157177505

I still want to see the DVD frame from >>157173528 done with NGU AA.

what happened to KCP?

>>157164518
M P V
Lightweight
Fast
Customizable
Cross Platform
Just Works
M P V

>>157177600
Possibly close enough. NGU AA handles the noise in the source better than ewa_lanczossharp here: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/209790
MadVR wins via TKO.

>>157164518
MPV with KCP

I haven't gotten anything new since latest CCCP build. At this point, straight up latest build MPC or MPV with opengl config is better than CCCP right? Heck, latest VLC build might be better than CCCP. Also my toaster can't run all the high end madVR shit so that's irrelevant.

KCP is all you need.

Anon who posted >>157173528 here, made some new comparisons with lower quality sources( laser disc) and lower quality BD( Mobile Suit Gundam) using NGU AA like >>157176051 suggested:
The first and second one are Hell Girl DVD(720*480p)
The third is the mobile suit gundam BD(960*720p)
The fourth is the Nora Laser disc(640*480p)
The fifth one is Satsujin Kippu wa Heart-iro laser disc(640*480p)

https://diff.pics/WGmhXzGI4LSl/1

>>157178294
Looks like the hair artifacts are still there.

>>157178294
I fuck it up in the last comparison because I used a different frame, sorry about that

>>157178360
Indeed, but it very clearly does help with AA.

>>157178294
>first from left
NGU AA wins hands down.
>second from left
NGU AA obviously handles poor sources better than NGU Sharp.
>third from left
ewa_lanczossharp preserves the grain better for grainfags. Some people dislike grain, though. This one is going to be pure personal preference.
>fourth from left
NGU AA handles the artifacting better.
>all the way on the right
NGU AA handles the artifacting better.
It appears that MadVR will upscale most sources better if your PC can handle it but grainfags may find some use out of mpv.

>>157178384
Last comparison fixed:
https://diff.pics/gUsDS77bXMLN/1

Media Player Classic

>>157178512
The last comparison is fucked(used the different frame), here is the fixed one:
https://diff.pics/gUsDS77bXMLN/1

>>157178512
Mpv has other shaders. Only one of them has so far been tested.

>>157164518
VLC

>>157178703
Comparing upscalers that both media players can use would be perhaps unnecessarily autistic.

What's the difference between NGU Anti-Alias, NGU Soft, NGU Standard, and NGU Sharp?

>>157179308
Their names aren't self-explanatory?

>>157178703
Ewa lanczos is jinc which madvr has too.
At this point, madvr just has ngu which is basically the same as NNEDI.

>>157179681
Meant for
>>157179033

>>157179681
I'm fairly sure ewa_lanczossharp and Jinc are different in some way I don't remember.
NGU > NNEDI
It looks better and it's faster.

>>157179755
lanczossharp has slightly different tuning to ewa lanczos which is jinc.
NGU is a marginal improvement in quality but faster, both of which aren't much of an improvement over jinc in the first place. I'd like to see some madvr people show what they can do with >>157174974.

>>157179886
Anime patricians won't care about that meme resolution.

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>>157180095

>>157180243
Most anime don't even have 1080p lineart. 1080p is the highest it goes for any anime. All getting a 4k display for anime accomplishes is making watching it more resource intensive.

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>>157180305
Yes, your dingy 6 bit 24 inch 1080p TN monitor is so much better than my 10 bit 40 inch 4K VA TV.

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>>157180626
They are the same if you are seeing an upscaled 900p anime anon, spamming /v/ memes doesn't help your case.

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>>157180866
Oh yes, they are the same. Definitely. Anything more than what you can afford is CLEARLY /v/ memes.

(protip: 4K is pretty shit for gaming)

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>>157180958
>it's better because it costs more

>>157180958
>if you are seeing an upscaled 900p anime
Your lack of reading comprehension is actually the biggest /v/ermin telltale, but i meant the whole grapes thing, /v/ermin consolewars are chock full of them.

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>>157181018
Yep. What you have is the tippity top of performance. Anything more expensive is clearly not warranted.
>>157181055
If you're being serious, it's not about the resolution for anime in particular. 4K is great for many things, like programming and doing work. However it's the panel quality that is the important part for anime, and even your most entry level 4K TV is going to destroy cheapass $200 1080p monitors.

>>157181055
Also, I wouldn't know because I don't browse /v/. All I know is this fucker is typifying the fox and grapes shit to a T.

>>157181121
>destroy
The cost is not worth the minimal difference anon, it's true though that a TV usually blows a monitor out of the water, but that's true of regular HD TVs anyway, the 4K part is not that relevant when you consider it's a big part of the added cost for a minimal difference.

Well, i sadly go once in a while because it's better than forums and let's me be on the zeitgeist, any 4chan board tends to have the newest information no matter how shitty, and believe me that shit gets spammed like crazy.

>>157181256
>The cost is not worth the minimal difference anon, it's true though that a TV usually blows a monitor out of the water, but that's true of regular HD TVs anyway, the 4K part is not that relevant when you consider it's a big part of the added cost for a minimal difference.

If watching anime were the only thing I ever did, then yeah sure, I'd buy a 1080p TV. But it's not. And so the utility of 4K rises from just "marginally better looking anime" to a whole lot of other shit.

>>157181327
That anon was specifically talking about 4K being irrelevant for anime watching though, reread the post. I personally have no need but of course that level of resolution has its uses. Just not for anime

>>157181408
It makes stuff look better if you have the proper scalers set up so there is a benefit - just perhaps not a big enough one to justify the cost to some people.

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>install CCCP over a year ago
>just keep clicking Yes/OK/Whatever until it's done
>forget all about it
Good enough for me.

>>157181121
>>157180305 here
I never said shit about a monitor. I have a 1080p TV that I watch anime on, like a patrician. I also never said there's no point in owning a 4k display. I just think that a 1080p display is best suited for an anime viewing PC. That's all.

>>157181560
>It makes stuff look better
Upscaling does not work that way. Upscaling does not create detail which does not exist in the source file.

>tfw have a shit 1280x1024 crt
Fuck off, all of you.

>>157164518
>needing to install mulitple shit to make mpc useable
>good

>>157182297
>mpc vainilla is superior to every other player, even if only slightly to some
>it can be made even better
Reading isn't so hard anon, are you underaged?

>>157166557
How do you handle the autistic 10bit crap?
Thanks Daiz.

>>157182398
Vanilla MPC is not better than mpv

I dunno why but after installing and setting up mpc-hc and madvr on this computer I built a few months ago any video I full screen goes black for a few seconds while still playing. Works fine after, and I can just skip back to see what was missed but I've never had this before. I'm on Win10 and the monitor is connected by display port so I can only assume one of those is why since they're the only changes.

Other than that, mpc-hc doesn't have the windowed toolbar when I'm fullscreen either like it used to and I don't know why.

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>>157182532
>I'm on Win10

>>157182569
I fell for the dx12 meme

>>157182633
You know, the very first time Windows 8.1 prompted me to install Windows 10 for free, and this was long before this shit hit the news, my very first fucking thought was, "Aw no, you normally sell this shit and now you're giving it to me for free? You're putting spyware in that shit nigga." I'm still insulted by how blatant they were about it all.

>>157182263
Looking better does not equal more objective detail.

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>>157164518
Best shit.

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>>157182949
Prove that native 1080p anime will look better on a 4k display than on a 1080p display of equivalent quality.

>>157183269
It won't: https://archive.fo/6PFYZ
>Conclusion
>A 4k TV is worth buying over a 1080p TV, provided you sit close enough to see the extra detail and are watching native 4k content. If you are only watching 1080p or smaller videos, it doesn't improve the picture quality.
>If you are only watching 1080p or smaller videos, it doesn't improve the picture quality.

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>>157183269
>>157183581
>prove
Nah, not gonna waste my time. I'm content laughing at you poorfags.

>>157182872
They were so aggressive into giving you "free" stuff that it was obvious to everyone that they had second thoughts behind it.
>>157183624
Yeah they're poorfags for arguing about the 4K meme, and it's not like you have personal motivation to defend your purchase at all costs or anything either. I'm sure 4K is mindblowing for native 720p anime content.

>>157183689
It is, actually. I was going to post a comparison but I realized it's a waste of time to go through the trouble of making one, cause it's not like they're gonna be able to afford a 4K display anytime soon anyways.

>>157182412
>2017
>complaining about 10bit
Sorry about your 2001 toaster burning down your mudhut, nigger.

>>157183689
You don't need to argue with >>157183624 anymore. He conceded defeat before throwing an ad hominem tanturm. He lost. Just let it go mate.

>>157183763
Whatever helps you sleep at night, poorfag. Enjoy both your victory and your poverty.

>>157181991
CCCP is just a codec pack, we're talking about shaders and upscalers here

>>157183757
>thinks hardware power has anything to do with it

Yes anon I'm sure a PS4 has trouble running 10bit, that's why it doesn't support it, and neither does any hardware media player under the sun. Do you know why they don't support it? Because it's an autistic meme profile that isn't used ANYWHERE in ANY industry, there is literally no reason to support it because no one use it except retards who fell for a meme from a literal autist.

>>157183979
>caring about hardware decoding
ok buddy

> they don't use Iris
> unprepared for 4K HDR animu

>>157184021
>encode and release video as your fucking life
>not caring about hardware decoding and compatibility in general
Are anime fansubbers the most autistic people on Earth?

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>all these mpv shills

Kaybe lake i7 7700k here with a 980ti.
Madvr MPC or bust

>>157184068
Hardware decoding is a big meme. All you have to do is have a CPU from the last decade and you'll be fine.

>>157183979
What's necessarily wrong with autists? The greatest soccer player of all time is literally on the spectrum. I'd listen to Lionel Messi about soccer so why wouldn't you listen to Daiz? (I do not know if Daiz is literally on the spectrum, but I assume you are referring to him.)

>>157184068
You certainly seem to take a liking to using the word autism.

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Lets talk about something real, how many TBs of animu are you guys hording. I'm hoving up there around 2 or 3 TB

>>157182412
>2017
>complaining about 10-bit
Hell, even my phone can play 10-bit just fine

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>>157184194

>>157184194
I have 3TB. What i really treasure is all my old 4chan and internet shit, i have every image i saved since 2007 on a hardrive.

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>>157183979
>PS4
No, you're the one at fault for buying and unironically using a consumerist toyfor anime playback. Absolutely disgusting.

>>157184194
I don't save shit anime, so I only have a few mb

The golden standard in 2010 maybe.

All you need is MPC-HC and madVR, and maybe XySubFilter. Anything else is bloat.

>>157184529
Aria BDs are at least 50 Gb anons.

>>157183979
>ps4
>he doesn't a htpc

>>157184643
Why did the manga have to go to shit?

>>157184547
>non bloat
>having to install 3 different programs

>>157184795
As opposed to letting one installer install 20 programs?

>>157184194
12+TB for now, with another 4TB in the mail; think I'll have to get another one though, 20TB should last me a decent while

>>157169968
>meme so old he uses a .gif reaction
lol

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>>157186162
Anon, anyone posting here did his time on /b/, you are not shocking anyone, but i was in the middle of masturbating and now that is ruined for 5 minutes, don't be rude.

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>>157186373
I'm not sure if I should be shocked or impressed on those "5 minutes".

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>>157186499
https://exhentai.org/g/13592/d17264cf92/
It was to this, not proud of it but all these ruins have ruined me.

>>157186373
>did his time on /b/
Why don't you just go back there

What are people's opinions about SVP interpolation?

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>>157186758
Years*

>>157186834
Because I got bored of the same threads in 2009 anon, and sadly they are still having the same threads we had 8 fucking years ago, it's incredible.

>>157186860
Too many artifacts

>>157186860
cancer

>>157184583
>bloatgirls

>>157187862
>not using sallysubs 1080p with FLAC
If there is one show that deserves each memegb it's aria anon.

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>>157186860
It can do much worse than this. It can create some pretty amusing smear frames.

CCCP? It's like it's 2011 in here.

>>157187988
Are you sure the 1080p version of a QTEC upscale of a 480p digital anime is worth it over the 720p version?

Is there a way to make MPC play files at a faster speed without the pitch raising?

>>157188370
Aria is worth a liter of blood every 3 months. It's not like I'm archiving Glasslip.

>>157188485
Please watch anime as the director intended, autists.

>>157188517
Director-san don't know shit though, or else he wouldn't be an anime director.

>>157188508
It's not worth it for a 1080p display, at least: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/209814
The 720p Sallysubs release upscaled to 1080p with NGU Sharp looks identical to the 1080p release at native resolution.

>>157164518
I still use CCCP so I don't have to worry about any backwards compatibility issues with very old encoded anime.

>>157188849
MPC-HC will play anything CCCP will play out of the box now.

>>157189504
Even very old divx encoded nonsense?

>>157172594
>>157182398
People always say "oh player X is superior over all others in every way" and that's it. Never any reasons why.
Shouldn't every player decode a frame of a video of the same format to the same pixel output? I don't get it.

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>>157188664
>It's another episode of "weeb self-depricates about being a weeb"
Kill yourself my man.

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>>157186860
The only way to watch anime, seeing as the industry won't adopt 24-60fps animation any time soon. 60 fps has 150% more frames than 24, which translates to 150% more potential detail.

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>>157187999
That's a bad example. For the most part, it looks far better.

>>157189738
I've had actual tech literate friends why it's an actual thing, but i couldn't really explain it to you.
Yes, there are differences, you mostly notice them if you take a screenshot and you post the image.
No, it doesn't really make that much of a difference UNLESS you are watching something very old or with a very shit upscaling, there is no reason to not at least using vainilla MPC though, VLC is a bit more of a meme than it was in the past, it's still inferior.

>>157189794
That's too demanding, budget-wise and workload-wise.

>>157189531
Yes. Do this if you have even a low tier gaming PC: >>157166526
Learn mpv if you have a toaster.

>>157183979
>not supported anywhere
Yeah, no, fuck off mate.

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>>157189794
>>157189813

>>157189834
Yes, but so is animating a film vs animating a budget show, and yet the film with exponentially more budget and time requirements gets made anyways. The industry is just stagnant.

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>>157166526
>MadVR
It's fucking shite on older computers.
>>157189884
Is there a lighter video output than d3direct and dxinterop? I have a two older desktop computers and an older laptop. While the same config file works great on the laptop, it's laggy as all hell on the computers - especially if fullscreen, compared to MPC-hc's EVR (Custom) and no MadVR.

>>157168693
>muh tons of prograaaaaaaaaaaams
It all takes less than a minute to install, faggot. MadVR isn't an absolute necessity, too, so that brings you down to two. TWO.
One has an installer, and the other one is installed by merely running it as administrator. You run through the settings once (takes no more than the actual installation progress) and that's fucking it. You never touch them again.
It's a wonder you are capable of using a computer when installing software and setting it up is "witchcraft".

>>157190068
>Yes, but so is animating a film vs animating a budget show, and yet the film with exponentially more budget and time requirements gets made anyways.
It gets made, yes. But that's why anime films are special things, they're where a company splurges on the animation budget. They can't afford to do that for every TV series. For every Little Witch Academia movie you need a few Kill La Kill TV series, if you catch my drift.

And 60 different frames of animation per second is just way too fucking much even for a movie. Is there any anime film that does that?

>>157190399
Yo my MPC-HC says "xysubfilter unavailable" at the subtitle output bit. I think I installed it propely though, it's not exactly hard.

>>157190518
Did you happen to delete it (or move it) after installing it?

>>157166761
>Try this config
>Literally no difference from before

>>157191157
Not him, but the opengl stuff is redundant.
And I doubt you can really see any noticeable difference unless you're watching low-res video (compared to your screen).
There might be some difference when watching 720p video on a 4K screen, or 480p on a 1080p screen, but if you're watching 720p on 1080p screens it would be harder to notice any big difference.

Well, I got started on madVR, followed the tutorials, and I dunno if I'm just tired or what bc I'm not really noticing a huge difference. Except in terms of CPU and memory usage, which has doubled.

>>157190518
MPC-HC options => Playback
Uncheck use the built in subtitle renderer if it's checked.

Mpc-hc or VLC. Both are good right out the box, codec packs aren't needed anymore

>>157191892
VLC is not good right out of the box for anything but streaming. It is a streaming media player.

>>157166346
>xysubfilter
whats the point of this?

>>157191994
Rendering subtitles.

>>157164518
mpv.io
mpc-qt
mpc-hc

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>>157164518
>I'm getting annoyed by the horrible banding and want to fix it.
Get an HA-IPS screen.

>>157190399
>MadVR isn't an absolute necessity, too, so that brings you down to two. TWO.
Not that guy, but all I have to install are mpc-hc and xysubfilter? Is there any setup I have to do for mpc-hc and xysubfilter or can I just install both and run them straight out of the box and be able to play any video file?

>>157192161
whats wrong with the built-in one?

>>157168609
>being this add

>>157192502
Not better than xy.

>>157192502
Not him, but the performance of the stock one isn't really satisfying - especially with softsubs.

mpv + SSIMSuperRes + adaptivesharpen + krigBilateral

or

MPC-HC + madvr

>>157178226
>latest VLC build might be better than CCCP
It actually is.

>>157192436
Anyone want to help clarify?

SUMMON DAIZ

>>157195975
thats a name I havent heard in 5 years

>>157196943
You've been away for 5 years?

>>157164518
mpv with profile=opengl-hq.

>>157178226
>Lastest VLC built might be better than CCCP
This

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Thanks to you guys, I'm looking into mpv. I've been using VLC for a very long time. A time where subbers are using mkv than mp4 and I have to scurry the net for a player that who supports format.

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>>157196962
maybe, she still have a thing about killing anime?

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>>157188485
The newest versions of MPC can do it if you use the internal audio renderer

>>157164518
mpv.

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>Step backward. Pressing once will pause, every consecutive press will play one frame in reverse and then go into pause mode again.
mpv confirmed better than MPC-HC

>>157168994
>Streamfags use vlc
Kinda funny since this was the originally intended use for VLC

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>>157191868
No such option. Using the most recent stable version of MPC-HC.

What's the recommended render time?
Using my PC, it's around 4 ms in madvr but how low should it ideally be?

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>>157183979
>piss4
>using your plastic chinese toys watch anime

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>>157201886
LOOK AT ALL THESE FUCKING CONVENIENT FUNCTIONS THAT MPC CAN'T DO AT ALL
https://mpv.io/manual/stable/#keyboard-control

EVEN WITHOUT CONFIGURING ANYTHING MPV IS ALREADY MILES BETTER THAN MPC

>>157178294
Both are equally shit.

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>>157164518
k-lite mega if you're too lazy to install each individual player decoder/splitter/renderer mentioned above, just make sure you select 32-bit mpc-hc so madvr will work

>>157166346
the last xysubfilter update on github is from Oct 16, 2015... dead?