Saekano

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Eriri a shit.

Utaha a best.

What a shame, Eriri is the only interesting shit of this borefest, besides Utaha's body of course.

They should just remove Erishit altogether. No one will miss her.

>>157160675
Two episodes where she is loved.
I don't see the problem.

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>>157160993
>Eriretards unironically believe this

Megumi a best.

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>>157161124
You mean one and a half. Half of next episode will be dedicated to Megumi.

>>157161287
I don't think next episode would cover vol 7 too.

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>>157161736
Just like how they gave increased focus on Eriri's slump, they'll also give increased focus to Megumi's jealousy. As she's dragging the suitcase there'll be a segment where her hands are shaking and she's just staring at him angrily.

>>157161049
Is it possible to fix Eriri?

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Koisuru Metronome anime when

>>157164189
Never.
When the LN ends this is going to end too.

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>>157164699
But the story doesn't seem to be anywhere near the end.

>>157162486
Tbh it's about time someone gets angry at Tomoya.

>>157165035
>the anime is a success
>he confesses to Mayu
>the end

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>>157165299
>Mayu
No.

>>157165398
He and Utaha have no chemistry together while Mayu is slowly creeping into his heart like Megumi did.

Both of these characters are shit people and I hate them.

I don't even particularly like megumi, it's just they fucked everything up for themselves and she barely had to try even.

But seriously though, fuck Utaha and Eriri.

>>157165035
Sure but that's what happens when the source ends.

>>157165398
Dess>>157166440
At least Megumi came back and Tomoya is not without any guilt. He still supports Utaha and Eriri despite everything they did.

>>157165674
I don't see any particular affection from Tomoya towards Mayu.

>>157167592
I remember he had to bring her back and it's not like Megumi had anything to do besides being Tomoya's not wife.

>>157160675
isnt this the bitch that completely ignored him, stopped being friends with him and chose to be popular in school and treated the mc like shit to be popular? two eps was too many.

>>157166440
They just wanted to further their careers.

>>157167842
>>157167592

I honestly want she did to him to be addressed in a real way. Like for there to be some sort of real repercussion for her. Utaha as well.

I didn't read the light novels cause I can't get my hands on any English translations, but it just seems that he basically feels like shit but still acts friendly anyway and doesn't really call them out on their shit. No one does. Is there no justice in the world?

I just want someone to scream and lay into them until they cry or some shit, and for the MC
to move on and be happy while they are alone
and sad. I don't even like the MC I just dislike them that much.

Can any LN readers tell me that there is some real closure that's missed in the summaries?

>>157167842
This was supposed to be the arc where she apologized and got redeemed. Now all the attention will be given to Megumi's departure.

>>157167842
Are you a battle shonen hero?
She can't stand getting bullied, she didn't do that to be popular.

>>157167771
It was still her decision. She didn't have to come back if she didn't want to, but she still did it and saved him from getting depressed.

>>157167842
To be fair she only ignored him because both of them got bullied and she wanted it to finally stop, but Tomoya didn't care and still acted like an otaku even though he knew Eriri got bullied too because of him, so he left her no other choice.

>>157168249
Eriri nearly works herself to death to make up for that incident.

>>157168848

>let me retreat to my private mansion in the woods while ditching school to work on an incest fuck game

Woe is me

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Utaha is a blessing.

>>157168249

Every single girl is better off without Tomoya. He's an absolute faggot on every level.

>>157168249

This shit drives me fucking insane, when a character does something monumentally fucked up and it's never ever addressed properly.

Instead of having them show some real fucking remorse and guilt, they just try to make you sympathise with them and imply it was nearly entirely the MCs fault.

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>>157168977
Drawing is hard.

>>157169105
>women using emotions to override logic

Sounds pretty realistic to me.

>>157169034
I'm not a fan of Tomoya, and it's not that even care who he ends up with. It's that he didn't deserve what they did to him.

In reality he did a lot for them and they just basically blew him off completely. The don't
have to fuck him, but they shouldn't destroy him like that.

>>157169105
Maybe in the final volume there will be some retribution. Like Eriri confesses and Tomoya blows up at her leaving her crying or something. IDK, anything really.

This anime is ruined by MEGOOMEEE

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>>157169029
This is a real blessing.

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>>157169368
Nah, Eriri is the only detrimental factor to the show. Just let it be about Utaha and Tomoya like in KM, with the occasional Megumi tsukkomi to balance things out a bit.

>>157169275

Eriri is a spoiled cunt, but they were both being bullied for that stuff when they were in school.

Utaha was already a published author and a successful one at that.

Megumi was happy in her life as a normalfag

Cousin would've probably ended up back with the band anyway because she's dumb as balls.

Eriri would just draw porn for perverts and suck some old publisher's dick at Comiket before inheriting her family's money

>>157168718
Because she has nothing else to do.
If she were in the same position as Eriri and Utaha what would she do?

>>157169839
Well for starters, she would tell him directly instead of pussyfooting around him.

>>157169275
But he did the same thing to Megumi. He promised to go on a date on her birthday, but instead decided to still support his enemy's company and help Utaha&Eriri.

>>157169839
That's your excuse? Even if Megumi doesn't have talent like Utaha or Eriri, the game was still important to her and she worked hard to be the heroine they all wanted her to be. She put her heart into this game while Eriri&Utaha and even Tomoya moved to another company. Now ask me again what she would do in their place?

>>157169335
Eriri already gave up.

>>157170336
Can tomoya still yell at her and make her feel like shit?

>>157170570
Not when he's busy thinking about Megumi.

Where can I watch season 2 with subs if I live in norway? Amazon is not working for me

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>>157169430
Utaha is only good for being BTFO.

>>157160675
>only
One would already be too much.

>>157164083
That would mean turning her into a completely different character.

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>>157160675
Quality and focus matters more than length. Next episode should be great and focus almost entirely on Eriri.

Besides, the anime has already gave Eriri plenty of love through adding in Megumi x Eriri development and an additional slump scene.

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Utaha > Mayu > Megumi > Icy Tail sluts > Michiru > Izumi >>> * >>> Eriri

>>157171709
This.

>>157160675
>A shitpost and samefag thread for low-taste Utahashitters
How will they defend this?

>>157169615
>Megumi was happy in her life as a normalfag
Then why did she accept his proposals and not just tell him off?
Protip: because people become stupid when they fall in love

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>Eririfags already doing damage control on A-1 logically dedicating worst girl's arc the least amount of episodes possible because nobody cares about it

>>157171930

She was only interested after a while. Even then she was more annoyed than interested in the beginning.

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>>157171709
A constructive and well-supported post. As expected of Eririfags.

>>157171994
More like that Eriri sperg came late to the thread to samefag. Just watch how he'll defend himself again

>>157171994
By that logic nobody cares about Utaha because she only has an episode and a half of dedication in a 3 episode arc.

>>157171994
>Implying he is wrong

>>157172080
Utaha got episode 0, more backstory in the part of GS adapted in episode 1, and her arc lasted 3 episodes.

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I don't really follow these threads or the drama surrounding them too much, but I'd just like to say that my wife Eriri-chan is very cute.

>>157171994
You know they probably will adapt the rest of GS1 and most of it is for Eriri. You are probably to end up eating your words.

>>157172114
>they're rushing through Eriri's novel and squeezing everything they can into two episodes and omitting a lot of things because they love her, guise

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>>157171709
We all know Megumi will steal the spotlight like how she always does.

>>157172135
>episode 0
That was for everyone, not Utaha. Megumi actually stole that episode.

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>>157172193
Correction, Eriri and Utaha. Eriri alone, on her own, can't do shit.

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>>157172232
But Utaha got the best parts.

>>157172135
By that logic Eriri has episode 0, 1, 5, and 6 then. Eriri shared a shipping scene in episode 0 and episode 1 was split between developing backstories.

Eriri at least won't face the issue of Megumi coming on as the center in her arc.

>>157172229
Megumi leaving will be the epilogue. It'll be brief as an opener for the next arc.

>>157172193
The rest of GS1 won't be adapted. The latter half of S2 is called Megumi's story, and the reason they made episode 1 about Eriri and Utaha was that doing an episode about them in the latter half would ruin the tempo.

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>>157172362
You can't be more wrong.

>>157169956
Like she told him when she left?
>>157170251
The game was over, they left after they completed the game.

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>>157172393
>Eriri
>episode 0
Nope.
>episode 1
Only to show us how much of a retarded cunt she is again.
>5 and 6
Rushed as shit. They're doing this because nobody will complain if they just skip everything concerning Eriri in this arc. Nips hate her the most.

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Utaha has really been the most notable thing about S2 so far.

>>157172461
>nope
>retarded cunt
If you are going to ignore things because it upsets you and use circular logic in place of an argument then there's no point in entertaining you.
>Rushed as shit
Being overly eager for the sake of hating isn't an excuse to be blind and unreasonable. Even if episode 5 technically reached a bit close to half the book, they at least focused mostly on Eriri. The following scenes will be undoubtedly focused almost all on Eriri given they can only adapt or added more original scenes for her.

For your record, Eriri was third most popular a couple of years ago. But she clearly has gotten better reception since then.

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>>157172658
No.

>>157172704
You probably didn't read the book and think that just because both episodes have Eriri's face plastered all over them means it's good and not a complete butcher of the source.

>>157172704
Utahashitters are retarded and just want to shitpost, mate.

>>157160675

Utaha a best.
Eiri a cute.
Megumi a shit.

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>>157172362
>getting rekt'd by Megumi
>best parts
Heh.

>>157172658
poor man's senjogahara

>>157172782
>butcher

All they did was cut out Michiru's scenes to fit Eriri's arc into two episodes.

>>157172887
Talking about next episode. There's no way they won't cut out a lot of shit if they plan of ending it on Megumi leaving.

>>157172416
>latter half of S2 is called Megumi's story
No, that is wrong. The second part is about the Eriri and Utaha meeting with Akane and a developing plot regarding how they ended up leaving Tomoya's circle. Utaha is naturally included, but Eriri definitely shines most since she is protected and cared for by Utaha, not to mention she has the most emotional parts near the end.

>>157172931
You just need a montage of Tomoya and Eriri hanging out together for the first half, and then the second half is winter comiket. There's really not that much, they got the editing parts and the bonfire dance out of the way in one episode.

>>157172869
Utaha a best
Megumi a cute
Michiru a hot
Eriri a turd

>>157172869
Eriri a best.
Megumi a cute.
Utaha a shit.

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>>157173020
In a magazine interview, they called the second half "Megumi's story" and explained that episode 1 turned out like that because putting it near the end would've ruined the tempo.

>>157161158
oink

>>157172782
This is about how well they focus on Eriri while adapting the volume. Omitting and rushing through is a natural given, but they at least are doing right by Eriri for the most part.

>>157172193
>>157172416
GS1 should be adapted. They did the first story to strengthen the bond that Utaha has with Eriri for a reason. The second story concerns them and why they ended up departing as >>157173020 said.

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>>157173020
Eriri gets BTFO by Akane and then Utaha is the one who shines by sticking to her crying ass.

>>157173416
The second story is pretty long. I think it is possible to use 2 episodes in adapting it. That way volume 7 has four episodes standard compared to 5 episodes, which would be too draggy.

>>157173416
But they won't because they'll make the V7 more Megumi-centric. Adding Eriri and Utaha episodes would ruin the flow.

>>157173450
The same Akane that said that Utaha is worthless.

>>157160675
Fuck me. I know this episode wasn't done well, but I still had sweat pouring down my back because I'm behind in real life too.

>>157173562
Yeah maybe. Before I had imagined GS material would be meshed in between vol.6 and vol.7, but the way episode 0 was handled makes me wonder if it'll be a standalone again.

>>157173598
I'm aware Megumi left at the end of vol.6. This is why I think it's better for the pacing if they moved that or simply meshed in GS1's second story while Tomoya is chasing after Megumi OR after the Megumi drama by way of in medias res, showing how Eriri and Utaha came to where they stand at that point.

>>157172450
The release guy... The release of the game was almost going to get damaged because of Tomoya.

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>>157160675
Is she okay? Is she going to the hospital next episode?

>>157160675
>two
It's not confirmed yet. You all are shitposting too soon.

>>157173985
Eriri and Utaha's departure is supposed to be a surprise though. Doing GS1 like that would ruin it.

>>157174812
You are right from a scenario writer's perspective. The in medias res technique would be ideal. The dropped bomb becomes a cliffhanger and the next episode or two will cover the rest of GS1. After that the finale of volume 7 will be covered.

>>157175169
I think spending so much time on GS1 is liable to driving away the anime crowd.

>>157175578
Maruto was criticized for the lack of development for them and that's why he wrote GS1. If they can't appreciate that then well it's too bad for them.

>>157175578
Animeonlyfags are the worst.jpg

>>157175975

You get the most out of this series in the anime. the LNs are notoriously full of filler trash

>>157174620
Pre-screening spoilers implied Eriri's arc ends next episode.

>>157177777
I believe you and your numbers.

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>most generic haremshit of all time with terrible MC
>give it high production values

>INSTANT CLASSIC!!

proof that anime fags just love flashy colors

>>157177777
Magical.

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Is it me or are ALL the girls shit?
The only reason they seem decent is because of Kurehito Misaki's art. Take them away and you get chest-deep into Maruto's atrocious writing that departs from his style of writing in visual novels.

Utaha had every chance to pursue something else since Tomoya hasn't been interested in her, but didn't.
Eriri had the same problem, dwelling too much in the past instead of focusing on what she is now, which is not necessarily affected by Tomoya's actions when they were still kids.
Megumi was set up like Tatsuya Shiba. She is considered as inconspicuous in the Tomoyabowl because the narrative set up, but said narrative also allows Megumi to steal the spotlight out of the other girls. As a romantic interest, she is also set up by the author as an unstoppable force, which takes away the fun from the competition.

>>157179454
It's not even high production values compared to Oregairu Zoku or Haganai S2.
The OP is also stylistically inferior to the initial OP sequence used for "Harumodoki".

>>157177777
>Pre-screening spoilers
Link?

It is been pretty boring this season, the hype also seems died for show that average 10k S1 that is pretty disappointed, did people move to Eromanga sensei, it is literally same MC with new set of girls, loli at that

>>157180922
It's more like everyone's been spoiled for so long there's nothing to do but argue. If you check places other than /a/ the hype is the same as usual.

>>157179978
http://shiba.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1493985055/

Post 799

>>157181015
I see on twitter Nips also donot hype it as much anymore

>>157180922
As >>157181015 has said, the story has been spoilered to hell and back. As for the characters, there are more places to look for Misaki Kurehito art.

It is also at this point where many people (read: people who aren't here for a single girl) can say that the story has gone to a low point.

>>157181132
I have no idea how to track twitter, but I don't think it's too relevant.

>>157181120
Translation?
>2ch
But, what.

>>157181167
The story doesn't start to suck until after V7, and the anime will probably just do its own ending.

>>157180922
As Koisuru Metronome shows, hype truly is a thing to be controlled.

>>157181536
Although, loss of hype is much destructive than uncontrolled hype alone. Imagine if the complete loss of interest on S2 has stopped Saekano from getting a third season.

>>157181120
>Google translation
>Something about Akane
GS1 confirmed. More Eriri incoming.

>>157160675
Frankly, everyone and their mother know that Eriri will lose so maybe it's a good thing the anime isn't wasting as much time as the LNs
Author should learn from them t b h

>>157181615
>complete loss of interest on S2

That's exaggerating.

>>157181750
He's speculating that Akane won't show up.

>>157182423
So that guy is just a random channeler speculating things? How is that spoilers?

>>157183218
He's speculating based on what he saw on the pre-screening.

>>157183297
So he can comment only for next episode, which has nothing to do with Akane.

>>157181615
Hype has limited capacity. Unleash it too early and it'll be low when you most need it.

GS3 synopsis

>The story of these clumsy, pure, boring girls' love.
>Megumi is no longer a flat, unassuming girl.
>She's Katou Megumi, a boring girl who will never relinquish her title of main heroine.
>This is the story of the girls' galge production, behind the scenes after Tomoya's decision.

They're going to release this right before the anime's final episode. Megumi end in the anime confirmed.

>>157186056
Sounds boring as hell.

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She ded?

>>157186107
Eririshitter pls, your girl got BTFO. You have to deal with it

>>157186107
There's no way a volume from Megumi's POV could be boring.

So Eriri doesn't finish and then both she and Utaha leave the circle?

>>157181750
>>157182423
There is no way they will spend 6 episodes on volume 7. GS1 is most likely and is the perfect material to adapt that can take up space and give proper development for Eriri and Utaha's departure.

>>157186107
>a boring girl
>boring
I see what you did there.

>>157186517
Eriri finishes, the art is amazing, and Megumi gets so butthurt about what happens that she leaves the circle.

>>157186494
She probably has Kyon levels of introspection plus Okashi-chan levels of sarcasm. Can't wait.

>>157186350
Eriribros weren't even mad at volume 12, dumb Utaha shitposter.

>>157186647
So the one repeating again and again that he can rely on her if he needs her is the one that bails out first?

Nice

>>157186579
There are only five episodes left after Eriri's arc, and the second half was explicitly called Megumi's story by the creators.

>>157179454
I like to think it's because all the meta it has. Inside jokes for otaku who have already seen tons of haremshit. It is the big bang theory of haremshit.

>>157186768
>five
Come again? 6+6 is 12.
>second half was explicitly called Megumi's story by the creators.
Yes. Volume 7 is mainly Megumi's arc, arguably the first real one she has. But it comes back to unrealistically spending 6 episodes for just volume 7.

>>157169381
You posted a blank image?

>>157186690
But they wee foaming at the mouth because Eriri lost. Utahabros were the ones making jokes about Utaha being Tomoya's lover after he marries Megumi.

>>157186877
Flat only has eleven episodes plus episode 0.

>Volume 7 is mainly Megumi's arc

But her screentime is really limited. She's absent for the first half, and she mainly shows up for the AV room scene and the hill scene.

>>157186819
I've watched a lot and I wanna say that things like Saekano are shit, with or without the meta talk and references to genre conventions.

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>>157160675
I'm 8 episodes into the first season of this anime and I honestly hate it.

all the characters are completely unlikable, especially the MC.

Is there any reason to continue watching? Does it get better?

>>157186819
Not really. Saekano has great characters and stands up by itself.

>>157186955
S1 has 12 episodes + episode 0. S2 should follow the same format, anon.

>She's absent for the first half,
That's not correct. The first half features Megumi and Tomoya dealing with her departure. That includes the audio room. Actually, a bit more than just half, I would say. Eriri and Utaha's situation starts near the last one third mark.And the arc ends on Megumi note, echoing the whole heroine thing, which Megumi becomes in more than one way.

>>157186886
Best blank page

>>157186993
You just don't like haremshit in general then

>>157187140
We already know the amount of episodes from the BD listings. You can check MAL or whatever, it's 11+1 episodes.

Megumi is mostly voiding him in the first half, for something called Megumi's story, it doesn't seem enough. The anime will do its own thing with V7 and add more Megumi scenes, which is how they'll stretch it to cover the rest of the season.

>>157187182
Maybe, but anime is incomplete without them.

Megumi's about as appealing as a wet napkin

Eriri > Utaha > trash > Mehgumi

can i get more hair down eriri? best eriri.

>>157187391
And Eriri's about as appealing as a shiny piece of turd.

Utaha > Megumi > Michiru >>> dogshit >>> Eriri

>>157187391
Eriri > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi >>> Utaha

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Utaha is truly a blessing.

>>157187391
Utaha = Michiru > Megumi >>> Elri

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>>157187426

>>157187604
Literally a shit.

>>157187758
hahaha totally epic BTFO'd that utahafag
brofist, my fellow megumi gentleman?

>>157187318
>11+1 episodes.
Wow, that sucks. So it is 5 episodes then.

Alright, but still I think 5 episodes would be stretching it. If they continue to add more scenes to development Megumi and Eriri's relationship and some original to shed light from Megumi's PoV during her absence, then I suppose it could be a solid fit.

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>>157187985
They'll add more flirting and sweet scenes to V7 to set up them getting together earlier than they did in the LN. So basically elements from V11 will be blended in.

>>157187702
truly best girl. twin tails eriri is shit tho

>>157187979
Stop falseflagging, Eririfag. Megumifags and Utahafags are bros.

>>157188290
They are going to jump from vol7 to vol 11.

>>157188642
Utahafags have no bros.

>>157188697
Eririfags*

>>157171994
the fuck is this?

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>>157188952
I'll be a bro to that Eririfag!

>>157188952
Eririfags aren't the ones who say that KM is better and Megumi went to shit after vol 7.

>>157189045
Even Utahafags themselves say that Utaha went to shit after vol 7. The series lost everything that made it enjoyable after vol 7. There's a thing called critical thinking and judgement.

>>157189162
Only Utahafags say that, Eririfags love vol 9 and GS2 and Megumifags vol 11 and 12

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>>157189162
>caring about the irrelevant LN when the anime will rewrite V7 to be a conclusive ending

>>157189231
Megumifags loved GS2 more. The reaction on vols 11 and 12 was split between shippers and non-shippers.

>>157188642
Not him, but Megumifags and Eririfags are friendlier than Megumifags are with Utahafags.

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>>157188584
>not liking both, but especially twintails
Begone.

>>157189231
Seriously this. Utahafags are so annoying and whiny. If they have given up already then they should go make KM threads instead of hanging out there to be sour and combative.

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>>157189402
Utahafags won't give up. Utaha will be fucking Tomoya on the side after Megumi wins. Meanwhile Eriri won't even confess her feelings and will drift away, probably participating in gangbangs to get more inspiration for her doujins to finally die alone.

>>157189297
Well to be honest everyone loved GS2.

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>>157189522
>using LN Utaha

Anime Utaha gave up completely.

>>157189322
Megumifags and Utahafags have been historically the two most dominant factions in the fanbase and the amount of shitstorms between them isn't even a hundredth of the amount Eririfags, the smallest fanbase, had with Megumifags.

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>>157189602
Yes, but we're talking about the LN, and in the LN Utaha's desire for Tomoya's cock hasn't diminished a bit. She knows she isn't competing for the first place anymore and she doesn't care, she just wants a piece of Tomoya no matter what.

>>157189322
Clearly you're too new to remember the all out shitflinging between Eriri and Mehgumifags first season
The Utahate trend is a recent development

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>>157189830
The LN is also something Maruto only does to advertise the anime, which should be held as the higher canon. There, Utaha has quietly conceded.

>>157189896
He said are friendlier and it's true, Utahafags started being a problem since last year.

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>>157189977
>adaptation is higher canon than the source

Nope.

>>157190027
No one cares about the LN, not even Japan.

>>157189770
Delusional Utahafag pls. Utaha historically is often smaller than Eririfags. Utahafags don't even measure to a third of Megumifags.

>>157189896
Reading comprehension.

Megumifags and Eririfags have been friendlier, if not relax around each other for over a year now. OTOH, Utahafags went form low-key and neutral to angry shitposters picking fights with just about everyone since a year now.

>>157180922
Are you stupid? 10k means an anime is doing well in sales.

>>157190139
Nope. Utahafags were always acknowledged as the second biggest fanbase, and a lot of them have Megumi as their second favorite and vice versa, so they overlap a lot.

>>157181615
You do know the second season was also done to promote the novel, right?

>>157190236
>Nope. Utahafags were always acknowledged as the second biggest fanbase, and a lot of them have Megumi as their second favorite and vice versa, so they overlap a lot.
Not here.

>>157190236
>rewriting history pulled from his ass
>trying to force allies with Megumifags
Delusional as fuck.

Tomorrow the PV will drop and we can truly lick Eririfag tears.

Eriri is the best.

>>157190287
Except yes.

>>157190290
>rewriting history
>pulling from his ass
Except that's what you're doing.

>>157190314
Nope.

>>157190236
That is not true. Eriri was second in terms of posts from discussions to images to waifu wars. Utaha was always seen as that kinda quiet third party with a low presence except on occasions.

>>157190353
Stay in denial.

>>157190377
Eririfags were just vocal. More vocal than Megumifags, even. That of course doesn't make them bigger.

>>157190411
>Utahafags has just been vocal and samefagging since S2 started
>Utaha isn't popular at all

>>157190136
The only BD buyers are LN readers.

Eriri is the worst.

Eriri is the best.

Eriri a shit.

>>157190411
You are oversimplifying it. But vocalness is one of the factors involved in measuring the size of any fanbase on /a/.

Megumifags were the most vocal and had the most posts, and that naturally reflects the fact she is most popular.

Utaha a shit. A SHIT.

>>157190411
Then. What makes a fanbase bigger?

Mehgumi is offensively bland trash

>>157190499
Not true. A lot of the BD buyers were animeonlyfags who bought it because they thought it was a fun harem, so when the latest episode came around with a new serious tone many were caught by surprise.

Eriri is offensively atrocious tsundere shit we've seen a million of times already. I'm glad she won't win and will get BTFO.

>>157190462
Pretty ironic considering Utahafags brag and gloat how "vocal" Utahafags have been for episode 0 to 4 that's more than even Megumifags.

>>157190631
>gets BTFO
>starts up his anti-tsun machine sperging to cover it up

>>157190631
Eriri won't be BTFO. She'll just gracefully concede, both in the LN and the anime.

>>157190462
Too bad Utaha is actually popular.

>>157190550
>>157190566
It just takes one or two faggots posting all over a thread to give the impression that their girl is popular. Try checking different threads, even threads outside the series, at different times of the day, and you'll see that Utaha is far above Eriri in terms of popularity.

Also, nice job ignoring the point about Megumifags overlapping with them a lot which has been true since S1.

>>157190631
Bait. Eriri is a good classic tsundere.

Eriri is garbage.

>>157190722
>she's popular because my delusional fanboy say so

>>157190710
>things that never happened
>stating facts is somehow a cover for something

>>157190713
She lost without even putting up a fight like the little pathetic coward she is. That's more humliating than being rejected. At least the MC will be aware of your feelings in that case.

>>157190737
She's a fake modern tsundere shit.

Eriri is a much better written character than Utaha.

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>>157190764
She's popular because that's how things are. In Japan and in the west, she's sometimes close behind Megumi. Why would /a/ be any different? And if it were, why would it matter? Japan is the place that matters and dictates what girls are loved and hated, and Eriri is by far the most hated in there as well as here.

>>157190722
You can't generalize and oversimplify it all just because it doesn't suit your logic. Sarkano threads then were consistent and thst is hard too deny. The reverse logic is harder to deny and you have a harder time proving otherwise.

>>157190815
Fact.

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>>157190808
>fake
>modern
No.

>>157190884
>still doesn't address the point about Megumifags and Utahafags overlapping which trumps his logic

Utahafags are more active than ever in S2, and things still haven't changed in regards to being the second biggest fanbase.

>>157190948
>posting his troll chart again

Post disregarded.

>>157190883
Too bad /a/ != Japan and even in Japan Utaha's popularity wanes and gets eclipsed by Megumi. I wouldn't be surprised if Eriri will be more popular than Utaha in the upcoming LN poll.

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>>157191008
/a/ has been a mirror to Japan more often than not. And it is reflected by Megumi being the most popular in both places, and the opinions regarding the show overall don't differ much, with Megumi and Utaha being usually praised for delivering the best and most memorable moments of the show. Why would the stance on Eriri be any different when she was also the most hated in S1 when her arc aired and only Eririfags tried to fight against everyone else who hated her?

>>157190990
That's not mine and it's the agreed upon chart. She is mostly tsun with little dere and transitions towards more dere and less tsun gradually as her character develops with Tomoya until she loses most of it. That is classic.

>>157191088
Sometimes is not always. Good job admitting that much. And in this case it's clearly not true for Utaha. Stay retarded.

>>157191092
>agreed upon chart
>modern bipolar tsundere as good

Ha, not even in your dreams. We've been over this, Eriri isn't a classic tsundere by any stretch of the word. There is no transition to dere, she was always in love and an otaku bro with Tomoya.

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>>157191140
>hurr no u
>it's not true because I say so

Fantastic argument.

>>157191088
>Utaha
>memorable moments
You're a funny guy.

>>157191247
Literally your entire argument since the start.

>>157191088
/a/'s taste don't overlap with Japan that often. /a/ complains about Japan's taste more often than not.

Only animefags and seasonal trolls looking for hype blew things out of proportion when episode 9 aired. Some of the more reasonable Megumifags who knew better saw how exaggerated and stupid the hate was. Utahafags hardly cared and barely hot involved.

>>157191247
You were the one who said it first.

>>157191275
>hot
got*

>>157190815
>>157190897
haha all me, guys!

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>It's that Utahafag again going full autistic defending Utaha's popularity

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>>157191250
Whether you like it or not, she had more moments of praise than Eriri ever did. While everyone was too busy shitting on Eriri for being a bitch and a drama queen that drags the show down, people had fun with Utaha's antics that brought the very much needed comedic tone to the show. It's not hard to see why people liked her more.

>>157191275
The only people that complain about Japan's taste are hypocrites that praise it when their favorite(s) is the most popular in a different series. Whether they were trolls or not, it was a common opinion that Eriri's arc was one of the lowest points of the anime, with more complains piling up on Michiru's arc.

>>157191271
>>157191283
Nice samefagging, and no, you have literally said nothing that could pass as an argument to support your claims.

>>157191333
>It's that Eriritard again going full autistic defending Eriri's popularity
I can do it too, fag

>>157191296
Nope and that is an objective fact given Utaha's drop to irrelevance and neglect. Her last arc being vol.10 was shitty and cringe and didn't change anything.

>>157191296
It's true, we had plenty threads discussing Eriri 's character and development unlike Utaha.

>>157191353
>crying samefag even though anyone with a brain can see it
>>157189770
>>157190236
>>157190722
Retarded Utahafag.

>>157191391
>objective
>shitty
>cringe
Give me an argument that consists of something other than hollow buzzwords and I might take you seriously
>>157191422
There hasn't been any character discussion in a single Saekano thread on /a/ and you're delusional if you think otherwise

>>157191440
No shit that's me arguing, retard. Now, can you quote posts that reply to a single post multiple times in a samefag fashion? Right, don't play a game you will lose.

>>157191161
It's true though.

>There is no transition to dere
And that's where you are wrong. She dropped a lot of tsun after volume 6 and pretty much all of it by the time of volume 9.

Megumi (10)>Utaha(10)=Eriri(10)>Cousin(9)>Kouhai(8)

>>157191478
>being THIS retarded
>hurr no u
>it's not true because I say so

>>157191563
It's wrong. The tsun was a facade she put to hide her own guilt at her own fuck ups, but she didn't develp any feelings for Tomoya, nor did she gradually change from a phase of genuine dislike to realization of romantic feelings to becoming warmer and nicer to him. She was in love with him since a kid. If Tomoya confessed to her at any point in the story she would have accepted him without any doubt.

>>157191608
Too bad that's not it. You're clearly too retarded and in denial to accept a truth that goes against your delusions.

>>157191694
>forces his delusions and make up excuses like it's just samefagging
>it's that way because I say so
Kill yourself already, Utahatard.

>>157191735
They're delusions because you say so, right? No, you're clearly out of arguments and evidence to prove me wrong, and meaningless insults are your last ammo left. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>157191353
Trolls and haters exaggerating it for the sake of hating are relevant to my point though. It was a thing and it came to past anyways.

The argument you are in insists Utahafags had a larger following because you based it on the assumptions that it mirrors Japan despite the fact taste here mirroring Jaoan don't happen that often. Megumi here is close to an exception in context. Basically that's only your assumption. Objectively speaking most threads were nothing but Eriri this and Megumi that back then (shitstorms counted). That is impossible to deny outright.

>>157191769
>can't prove his delusions
>runs out of argument and can only insult and say because I SAY so
Nice "argument", Utahatard.

>>157191813
It wasn't just trolls and haters exaggerating, the reaction was pretty much the same in other sites as well. Eriri is the most hated everywhere. Utahafags back then appeared in the threads at any time of the day to post once or twice and then leave, or sometimes side with Megumifags. And I like how you still refuse to address the fact Megumifags and Utahafags overlap a lot which proves even further Utaha's strength in the threads.

>>157191831
They're not delusions to anyone who has been here since the start. Plenty of Megumifags and Utahafags have acknowledged it plenty of times in the past, and of course, only one or two Eririfags have tried to deny it.

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>>157160675
Fact: Eririfags are the strongest race in the world.

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>>157191943
Eririfags' race (tsunderefags) is dying though. If Saekano aired 10 years earlier, in the midlde of the tsundeRie boom, Eriri would have been far away the most popular Saekano girl. But now that the archetype is greatly overused, predictable, uninspired and boring, people simply prefer other types of girls.

>>157190631
Sums it up perfectly.

>>157191933
>They're not delusions to anyone who has been here since the start. Plenty of Megumifags and Eririfags have acknowledged it plenty of times in the past, and of course, only one or two Utahafags have tried to deny it.

Cue Megumifags and Eririfags making fun of how ded Utahafags are. Oh right, you wouldn't know since you weren't there.

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>>157192155
Only Eririfags tried to feel superior by picking on Lelouch and implying every Utaha posts came from him without a trip. Megumifags were naturally more supportive of Utaha, which is logical and makes sense when you consider the fact Utaha was the most popular girl for the first couple of weeks, and then a lot of them converted to Megumifags by the second or third episode.

>>157191933
I fail to see how other sites is relevant at all, especially considering /a/ hates just about every known anime sites with its own forum.

Most of it was though. Reasonable arguments were made at the time but they hit on deaf ears because acknowledging them would defeat the point of blowing it out of proportion. And even if you go by most hated because of the above aforementioned, the fact that threads were full of mainly Megumi AND Eriri remains.

>overlap
I usually ignore points thst are not relevant. This is one of them. You sound actually desperate for using fans of another character as replacement for Utaha fans. If you recalled at all, a lot of Eririfags liked Utaha as second most. It just doesn't mean much, does it?

>>157192229
>only retarded Utahafags deny facts like Lelouch being made fun of because he was one of the very few who bothered to post Utaha more than once or twice for weeks
Stay mad.

>>157192273
They're relevant because, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, people don't post in just one site all the time. And Saekano threads are especially known for bringing in ESLs and outsiders all the time. Threads may have been infested with Eriri posts, but Eririfags themselves were vastly outnumbered by Megumifags and then Utahafags when it mattered.

>not relevant
Except it is when Utaha receives the support of the biggest fanbase and Megumifags and Utahafags never had any serious fight or shitstorm. Eririfags liking Utaha as second never made any real difference when they went apeshit over Megumi then and over Utaha now, showing that they just choose their allies out of sheer convenience and not because they truly feel that way towards those girls. That's how much of a minority Eririfags are.

>>157192323
As I said, only a few desperate Eririfags tried to make Lelouch famous by doing that. Logic and history is on my side.

>>157192491
>Denying that FACT Utaha isn't more popular at all
BTFO.

>>157192001
This is true. I hope the generic tsundere fad dies for good.

>>157192651
You will have to try harder than that. Meanwhile Utaha will keep being the second most popular girl.

>>157192685
Keep dreaming up that delusion, Utahatard.

>>157192734
Denial isn't just a river.

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Utaha is literally perfect.

I want her to step on my dick.

>>157192754
Irony.

>>157192877
a shit.

I'm glad she is losing popularity fast.

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>>157192881

>>157192001
>>157192657
>agreeing with yourself because nobody would take the bait
Too bad for you tsundere will still be the most popular archetype Japan can't stop getting enough of ten years from now.

>>157192491
Are you new or what? Vast majority of /a/nons only lurk here because they hate other sites like MAL, ANN, AS, etc due to a variety of reasons. /a/ is all that matters and so long as you post and activelly participate then you are counted. Pure and simple.

No one is going to deny that Megumi had the largest fanbase by far. But Eriri certainly was behind in second considering everything said. Utahafags really weren't thst vocal and active except for the occasional spell. You just can't deny that.

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>>157192893
But her arc just made her more loved and popular.

>>157192893
Not in Japan. There the popularity goes Megumi > Utaha >>> Eriri. There was good reception for the beginning of Utaha's arc but they already don't like the seriousness of the beginning of Eriri's arc.

>>157192957
>Not in Japan.
Your tears will be delicious when Eriri outranks Utaha in the annual LN poll.

>>157192950
Which is why we have MAL, ANN and AS threads and posts everyday, yep. People even know users from those sites as if they were part of /a/. And my first point is that the reception of the show and the girls is generally the same in every relevant site of the West. My second point is that vocalness isn't everything that determines how popular a girl is. Utaha certainly was less posted, but the general opinion about her was drastically better than Eriri's. And now in S2 Utahafags are corresponding their popularity with more active posting.

>>157192945
Tsundere is the easiest and cheapest way to hook retards like you to any series no matter how shitty they are, so sadly the archetype will stay alive in that pathetic way. But just like in Saekano, other kind of girls will be the most popular and loved by the fans.

>>157193024
>we have MAL, ANN and AS threads and posts everyday
Not him but what the fuck are you on and actually saying?

>>157193065
>Salty rationalization of your own shit taste

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>>157193011
Wishful thinking. Even after the latest development Utaha is still more popular. Not to mention Utaha has Koisuru Metronome backing her, and Eriri won't even have a satisfying closure in the LN.

>>157193135
MAL threads pop up quite often and many people link to their lists. They have been a thing for years regardless of if they get shitposted to death or deleted by the mods. Same with ANN reviews though those are posted mostly to bait people.

And AS, people go there all the time for spoilers and summaries of series that aren't translated.

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>>157193172
Sorry but my taste is good and supreme. Go back to fap to your tsundereshit and leave us the big boys do the talk.

>>157193179
>Eriri won't even have a satisfying closure in the LN

Eriri getting BTFO for good isn't satisfying closure?

>>157193235
What the fuck? /a/ hates shit like that.

>>157193398
Good for her, no, but for the rest of us, yeah.

>>157193427
MAL threads are as old as I can remember. I guess they were more accepted back then than now.

>>157193024
You mean posts complaining and shunning MAL, ANN, and AS, right? Yeah, I don't see how that helps your point.

I doubt you know that certain unless you've lurked every inch of those sites to know everyone's taste. I'm sure ANN and AS have quite different tastes on many things (like lolis for example). But regardless this isn't relevant st all to /a/ and obviously it has been a bit different since Eriri fancies more tastes with /a/nons than not. And that obviously makes the difference.

Better opinion but smaller support doesn't mean more popular. You are confusing reception among a group to popularity. For a somewhat extreme example, Kirino is "most hated", but she is far from least popular. In fact she is second, if not the most popular still.

The situation with Utahafags acting pompous and flooding Utaha out of nowhere during this season leaves open doubt and questions. It's actually established for a fact Megumi still most popular despite their reluctance to post more and Utahafags gloating. Actually, I'm pretty sure you know that situation considering you are...that Utahafag.

>>157193471
No. They usually get reported to death and deleted for blog shit and advertising profiles.

>>157193179
You keep telling yourself that, Utahafag. I'm sure it'll come true if you wish hard enough.

>>157193179
And also

>ONLY
>TWO
>EPISODES

>>157193539
Now you're just throwing a tantrum at those simple observable facts.

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>>157193179
Eriri is already on the way to having a nice closure and going out with a bang though. And that will be canon.

>>157193579
>said the Utahatard throwing his delusions around and shitposting like a literal manCHILD
Irony.

>>157193582
Canon >>> AU.

Utahafags on suicide watch

>>157193582
She won't even confess her feelings. She won't do anything that would bring more drama or drag out the series when it's ending. There won't be any time or space for her to go out with a "bang". At best she'll do something as unremarkable as sending Megumi off with Tomoya, just confirming how much of a beta loser she is.

>>157193626
See >>157189522

>>157193666
GS3 is coming up, so there's still a chance for Eriri to bawl at her loss, just not in front of Tomoya.

>>157193605
What delusions? Don't tell me any post that doesn't praise Eriri is a shitpost and delusion for you. It's a fact Utaha is still more popular in Japan after the latest novel and it's a fact KM does its job of backing her popularity more.

>>157193495
Nope, see >>157193235.

In general, things differ, but when it comes to something as specific as ranking girls in a harem series, the opinion logically isn't that different different as those series cater to the same niche audience, and of course, they end up having similar if not outright same opinions. Most harem series you can think of will have similar popularity rankings for their girls, and that's because in those sites the audience is the same, as I said.

>Eriri fancies more tastes with /a/nons than not.
Given that most /a/nons are Megumifags and they also tend to favor Utaha more than Eriri, and they don't even bring up Eriri's design as a point in her favor, I seriously doubt that.

Actually yes, being popular has to do with having a better reception. With Kirino she's both the most popular and most hated, but Eriri is just the most hated. If someone asked fans what were the things they liked about Saekano, they would respond most of the times with Megumi and Utaha. That's popularity, and Utaha's popularity is being more solidified in S2.

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>>157193739
KM massively backfired.

>>157193800
Is there any kind of popularity measurement for KM? I am curious as if Mayu is actually as, if not more popular than Utaha. But I seriously doubt that.

>>157193760
Utaha has only been solidified as a massive loser in S2.

>>157193835
And people sympathize with her more as result. Never heard of Kuroneko? Noe? Zessica?

>>157193832
No, because barely anyone reads KM in the first place.

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>>157193872
Half of it is sympathizing, half of it is jeering.

>>157193887
>1,647 people reading it at MAL

That doesn't seem like barely anyone.

>>157193739
>trying to save face and backpedal now
>>157190314
Rekt'd.

>>157193990
That post has nothing to do with this >>157193179, you shit for brains. But I guess it's my fault for expecting intelligence from Eririshits.

>>157194028
>ironically insults with delusion and tantrum
>points out he was like that since the start first
Utahatards are truly retarded.

>>157194069
>picking a different, unrelated post to have a say in (trying) to discredit a post that says nothing but truth that hurts him like a bitch

You can't be any more pathetic. Oh wait, you're an Eririshit.

>>157193666
What is wrong with supporting your best friend like a good friend and lending support to your childhood friend whom you used to have a mad crush on? That's one of the most obvious ways Maruto could write for Eriri. Another way is giving them her blessing, but be determined to chase after Tomoya and compete with Megumi like a rival with their friendship in tact, yet knowing that she won't have a good chance, but wishes to fight because she's not the kind of person who likes to give up.

>>157194101
>relevant irony
>somehow unrelated to the point he just made
Stay butthurt and retarded, Utahatard.

>>157194139
>accusing people for unrelated posts is a valid argument

It doesn't work that way, retard. You can't actually prove this >>157193179 wrong. The reply that called your post a tantrum is 100% applicable to your behavior so the irony is on you.

>>157194110
Eriri already gave up. She didn't even try to be a worthy rival for Megumi. She pretty much gave him on a silver plate and will probably draw vanilla doujins of them in their honeymoon like a true cuckquean.

>>157194191
>it's not relevant because I SAY so
>facts literally blasted in front of his face
>>157191440
There this Utahatard goes again.

>>157194293
>still can't prove that post wrong
>still displaying his severe retardation

Seek help.

>>157194245
Where did you get that from? We don't know if she gave up yet or not.

>>157193666
Satan speaks the truth.

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>>157193731
>there's still a chance for Eriri to bawl at her loss

>>157194346
When Eriri and Utaha see Tomoya's letters for Megumi, she gets slightly mad, but accepting of her loss. She already knows Tomoya made a definitive choice and won't try to fight it. Unlike Utaha who will keep chasing after him and surely won't mind being a side dish after he hooks up with Megumi.

>>157194318
>still
Burden of proof is on you, retarded Utahatard.

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>>157194408
Pathetic excuse. You never asked for proof of anything, you just called the post delusional without trying to disprove it with solid evidence.

It's common knowledge that Utaha is far more popular than Eriri and it's common sense that Koisuru Metronome is still running thanks to Utaha's popularity, unlike a certain other spin-off that got canned not even a year after starting. It's up to you to provide proof to claim the contrary to those claims. But you won't and will keep stalling with your ad hominems and autistic rage. Keep boiling.

Why does that redheaded faggot want to be at the top of the otaku heirarchy?
Who the hell would want to be the leader of all the neckbeards?

>>157194479
>whines and throws a fit instead of doing his job proving it
>gets BTFO twice due to his own stupidity and irony
Good job, retarded Utahatard.

>but muh ranking from years ago a-and KM when talking about 2017 today
Full retard.

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Cow tits is just a slut, not even a very successful one at that, Megumi is like a boring glass of lukewarm water, Cousin is a pervert. Eriri a best, flat is justice.

>>157194648
>whines and throws a fit instead of doing his job proving it
Exactly what you did here >>157193539

>gets BTFO twice due to his own stupidity and irony
Exactly what you're in this discussion that is only going thanks to your autistic rage and inability to concede an argument you never presented.

And what makes you think things have changed in S2? Holy shit, Utaha's arc just made anime fans more excited about her and you can check this anywhere, in 2ch, Japanese blogs, niconico, etc. She just keeps getting more loved by fans. And Eriri has done literally nothing to close the widening gap between her and Utaha, let alone Megumi. She's instead garnering more dislike and negative opinions, and the anime directors know this and this is why her arc is only getting 2 episodes.

>>157193760
>audience is the same
It sounds like you are generalizing based on isolated groups from your experienced and are applying to the whole or something. I've seen a lot of different taste for Vanadis across AS to reddit to /a/ and things like that are quite normal. So you shouldn't be say it like that.

Megumi is honestly sort of a rare exception that comes by once in a blue moon. Her character type rare is popular on /a/. It's a feat, but Eriri still does hit home to many well-liked and established fetishes.

>Better opinion but smaller support doesn't mean more popular.
>reception among a group to popularity
You should re-read that.

Kirino wasn't most popular like she is now. She was 2nd, maybe even 3rd at times and was "most" hated here. You could say Eriri was in a similar position being "most" hated and actually second behind Megumi. The point is this logic of "most" hated that you as a means to determine popularity is flawed and simply incorrect in this context.

>solidified in S2.
I wouldn't count on that. Especially with the way you've been flooding threads with Utaha, which looks like inflated popularity.

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>>157194654
>Eririfags only liking Eriri because she's DFC while shitting on the other (and better) girls

Like pottery for worst and most shallow fans.

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>>157194754
>only liking her because of DFC

Not true, the DFC is just a bonus. Eriri is the most passionate about her craft, she's the least boring personality wise and cares the most about MC whilst sharing his hobbies. Utahafags are the most shallow, they're just horny teenagers.

>>157194730
Good job proving you don't know how burden of proof works.

>Exactly what you're in this discussion that is only going thanks to your autistic rage and inability to concede an argument you never presented.
Holy shit, more irony. is it time for you to admit you're a raging and defensive autist who gets triggered to defend Utaha's popularity who was always behind Megumi and Eriri for /a/? Maybe when hell freezes over for you, Utahatard.

>literally no proof and just empty namedropping
>ignoring the fact Utaha's relevancy ended several volumes ago and it was a bad volume
Yeah I thought so.

>>157194754
Liking Utaha for only her body and tits while shitting on other (better) girls are exactly what Utahafags do.

>>157194740
It's not a generalization, but a trend that comes especially true in harem series. It's not like Saekano is like Monogatari or Vanadis where there are a lot of choices, the selection of girls is small and consistent based on what kind of fans the author is catering to. So it's not a surprise that people everywhere will find Megumi and Utaha to be the highlights of the series. Fetishes are relegated to a background when deciding which girls you like more. That's not a valid argument.

Utaha is still in higher regards than Eriri, and regardless of how much Eririfags spam Eriri, that won't make untrue the fact more people, couting Megumifags as well, like Utaha more.

Please. Utahafags ang Eririfags. STOP FIGHTING ALREADY.